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Title: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 18, 2009, 10:19:12 AM
Are homes built with plaster, and good wood work really that much more expensive to build than these new homes that go up everywhere covered in shitty looking Aluminum siding and drywall?

 ???

 :)
(http://www.homes-for-sale-portland.com/images/eastmoreland-luxury-big.jpg)

 :-X
(http://lorrie.cranor.org/photos/houselawn.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 18, 2009, 10:21:10 AM
RPF, actually the aluminum siding holds up better and is much easier to maintain.  Wish I had it.  :-\

More of the shotty construction goes on where you don't see it....thinner subfloors, etc....
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: saucetradomous on May 18, 2009, 10:21:35 AM
With codes and standards being more strict it just ain't feasible for the builder to make significant returns with these custom style houses.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: divcom on May 18, 2009, 10:23:20 AM
craftmenship is a thing of the past.  builders sell u BS for a better profit margin.  2nd one can be glued together faster too.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: tbombz on May 18, 2009, 10:25:43 AM
it depends on who is building the subdivision. most of the time its a guy with very limited funds, trying to turn "just enough money" into a big profit. So he is cutting corners and using the cheapest materials in order to meet codes and regulations.

there are some developers who do take pride in their houses though, and build fantastic homes with tons of extras on nice plots of land.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: robins on May 18, 2009, 10:53:34 AM
America....the land of the wooden houses.

We Europeans don't understand that man.

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Relentless on May 18, 2009, 11:07:39 AM
America....the land of the wooden houses.

We Europeans don't understand that man.


Neither do many of us.  We live in a "maximize profit" country...and it's not always a positive.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 18, 2009, 11:15:25 AM
America....the land of the wooden houses.

We Europeans don't understand that man.



No, because the vast majority of you live in what we would call "walk-in closets..."  8)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 18, 2009, 11:19:08 AM
newly built homes will not last the test of time. By 2100 these homes will be torn down or rebuilt were homes built in 1900 will still be standing.  My folks home built in the 1920's is built like a rock.  Underneath the drywall is cross studs and main studs and cinder block.  Todays homes have 2X4 studs and sheetrock and thats it.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 18, 2009, 11:21:02 AM
newly built homes will not last the test of time. By 2100 these homes will be torn down or rebuilt were homes built in 1900 will still be standing.  My folks home built in the 1920's is built like a rock.  Underneath the drywall is cross studs and main studs and cinder block.  Todays homes have 2X4 studs and sheetrock and thats it.

Agree, I live in a neighborhood of 1920's homes.  I'd welcome a tornado to try and do any damage here...   ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Mars on May 18, 2009, 11:30:39 AM
reptilian built homes.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
some beauties :)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Oxt12I-YRsw/R8HgQp2kAMI/AAAAAAAAG-s/TypLGE-oeu8/s400/HouseNext2Dress.jpg)

(http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/03/43/44/400_F_3434428_1BRxvfGnXm1Tr63WYmAufu9kVkUsTr.jpg)

(http://www.doorsopenontario.on.ca/userfiles/page_attachments/1/10113_3745451_Sleepy-Hollow-B-and-B.jpg)

(http://www.heskinhall.co.uk/images/front.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Mars on May 18, 2009, 11:35:55 AM
some beauties :)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Oxt12I-YRsw/R8HgQp2kAMI/AAAAAAAAG-s/TypLGE-oeu8/s400/HouseNext2Dress.jpg)

(http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/03/43/44/400_F_3434428_1BRxvfGnXm1Tr63WYmAufu9kVkUsTr.jpg)

(http://www.doorsopenontario.on.ca/userfiles/page_attachments/1/10113_3745451_Sleepy-Hollow-B-and-B.jpg)

(http://www.heskinhall.co.uk/images/front.jpg)

a beauty house, for a beauty like you.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 11:39:10 AM
a beauty house, for a beauty like you.

Den Haague is where it is at!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 11:43:43 AM
a beauty house, for a beauty like you.

thank you!  :-*

more...  :D

(http://baxterking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mansion_kenosha_paranormal.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MdA1BCzwv1o/SaNgU4dL05I/AAAAAAAACu0/x7kwODppssg/s400/100_3095.jpg)

(http://www.journeylist.com/uploads/images/bolebrokecastle1.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 18, 2009, 11:44:50 AM
thank you!  :-*

more...  :D

(http://baxterking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mansion_kenosha_paranormal.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MdA1BCzwv1o/SaNgU4dL05I/AAAAAAAACu0/x7kwODppssg/s400/100_3095.jpg)

(http://www.journeylist.com/uploads/images/bolebrokecastle1.jpg)

You're definitely an all around cool girl...  8)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: polychronopolous on May 18, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
newly built homes will not last the test of time. By 2100 these homes will be torn down or rebuilt were homes built in 1900 will still be standing.  My folks home built in the 1920's is built like a rock.  Underneath the drywall is cross studs and main studs and cinder block.  Todays homes have 2X4 studs and sheetrock and thats it.

And you get out of town a little way and those studs even have 24" centers when code is not an issue.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 11:52:05 AM
You're definitely an all around cool girl...  8)

thank you! likewise RPF. :)
I too hate that shit they build nowadays. My dream is to own an old well maintained 150-200 year old brick or tudor style home.. 2-3 stories. Doesnt have to be huge... but have lots of character. Even kinda spooky or a bit haunted.  :D Preferrably something on the historical registry.

Tarrytown and Sleepy Hollow 10 minutes north of me are perfect for this... right along the Hudson and not too far from the city.

Another beauty.  :)


(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2009/4/2/1238680853645/Harvington-Hall-Worcester-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: ManBearPig... on May 18, 2009, 12:24:21 PM
materials used to be more expensive than labor.

now labor is much more expensive than materials.

so everything's slapped together shittily.

the shitty houses started after WWII when houses needed to be slapped together quickly because of the population boom.  same with the recent boom, you couldn't build houses fast enough.

you can still find/make houses of excellent quality, just get ready to pony up big bucks.  also, today's average stay in a house is just over 5 years so even when someone builds a house for themselves they just have it last long enough til they get the fuck out, whereas before it was meant for generations to live in it.

protein, carbohydrates.  now this thread is bodybuilding related.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Ursus on May 18, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
houses here in ireland are always built with brick
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: wavelength on May 18, 2009, 12:29:43 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222671.0;attach=272512;image)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Mars on May 18, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2521393233_0ae9823fdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: The Master on May 18, 2009, 12:45:34 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222671.0;attach=272512;image)


Outstanding.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: wavelength on May 18, 2009, 12:54:37 PM
Outstanding.

here's the interior :)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222671.0;attach=272514;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222671.0;attach=272513;image)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: affeman on May 18, 2009, 12:56:03 PM
here's the interior :)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222671.0;attach=272514;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222671.0;attach=272513;image)

Your living room??
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: wavelength on May 18, 2009, 01:00:39 PM
Your living room??

just the entrance ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2521393233_0ae9823fdd.jpg)

hmmmm... ???


i like it!  :D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: BayGBM on May 18, 2009, 01:16:33 PM
Are homes built with plaster, and good wood work really that much more expensive to build than these new homes that go up everywhere covered in shitty looking Aluminum siding and drywall?

 ???

 :)

My friend's house burned down several years ago. When he was having it rebuilt the insurance company did not want to pay for brick; they wanted to pay for brick facing on the front and aluminum siding on the rest of the house.  He is a lawyer and he had to sue them to get them to pay for brick all around the house!  ::)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 02:05:21 PM
heart be still!!!!
 
(http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/3/j/Lyndhurst-WalkingGeek.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 02:22:07 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LWv6KQOZ9SU/SSxUhunQ2tI/AAAAAAAADrM/ll_h65vDujY/s400/brick+hs.JPG)

(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/17/b0/64/lighthouse-looking-east.jpg)

(http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/photos/Autumn_Bucks_County_PA_E._Stover_house.JPG)

(http://img2.photographersdirect.com/img/21621/wm/pd1342655.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: StickStickly on May 18, 2009, 02:24:25 PM
some beauties :)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Oxt12I-YRsw/R8HgQp2kAMI/AAAAAAAAG-s/TypLGE-oeu8/s400/HouseNext2Dress.jpg)

(http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/03/43/44/400_F_3434428_1BRxvfGnXm1Tr63WYmAufu9kVkUsTr.jpg)

(http://www.doorsopenontario.on.ca/userfiles/page_attachments/1/10113_3745451_Sleepy-Hollow-B-and-B.jpg)

(http://www.heskinhall.co.uk/images/front.jpg)
Is that 2nd picture the Galloway Mansion in Memphis, TN?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 02:31:26 PM
Is that 2nd picture the Galloway Mansion in Memphis, TN?

nope, i think this would be it.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/324146223_0b11b807be.jpg?v=0)
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Post by: Stormspirit on May 18, 2009, 02:32:43 PM
abandoned home
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: StickStickly on May 18, 2009, 02:33:15 PM
nope, i think this would be it.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/324146223_0b11b807be.jpg?v=0)
My memory has faded. We used to live right next to the Galloway Mansion when i lived in Memphis. They ruined the property and built smaller houses next to it which now resemble dog houses.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: mass 04 on May 18, 2009, 02:33:47 PM
(http://www.northeastern.edu/offcampus/images/BeaconHill.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Mars on May 18, 2009, 02:37:43 PM
(http://www.seemygf.com/fhg/024/29/images/06.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 02:39:27 PM
abandoned home

WOW... :o    magnificent :o

abandoned why? I am in LOVE!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 02:41:52 PM
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: mass 04 on May 18, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
(http://www.northeastern.edu/offcampus/images/back_bay1.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 02:44:21 PM
WOW... :o    :o

abandoned why? I am in LOVE!

You're not bisexual, are you?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 18, 2009, 02:56:56 PM
WOW... :o    magnificent :o

abandoned why? I am in LOVE!
It's in russia, lot's of magical architecture in russia.  I have 1000s of amazing pictures, if I wasn't busy right now I'd go through them and post some, maybe later
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 18, 2009, 02:59:01 PM
here are some detailed wooden homes in vladivostok
http://englishrussia.com/?p=2070
the abandoned homes
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1808
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 03:02:19 PM
I tried sleeping in here a few weeks ago but wasn't allowed to; I wanted to be close to god.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 03:05:51 PM
You're not bisexual, are you?

what???  no... why do you ask?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
what???  no... why do you ask?

I tend to ask that of all women, just a habit. I can't really understand why women like men in a physical sense.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 03:12:37 PM
here are some detailed wooden homes in vladivostok
http://englishrussia.com/?p=2070
the abandoned homes
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1808

very cool stuff, thanks for sharing!  that 2nd one is incredible.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 03:13:53 PM
I tend to ask that of all women, just a habit. I can't really understand why women like men in a physical sense.

i cant understand why a woman would like another woman.. in a physical sense..  too weird.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 03:14:47 PM
i cant understand why a woman would like another woman.. in a physical sense..  too weird.

I disagree. Physically, women are far more attractive than men.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 18, 2009, 03:27:23 PM
I disagree. Physically, women are far more attractive than men.

not to me!!!! LOL
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 18, 2009, 03:29:57 PM
not to me!!!! LOL

They are objectively more aesthetic. Surely you must agree on that.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 18, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
The claim that they don't build 'em like they used to is bs.  Building has always been profit driven and therefore shoddy work has always been a problem.  Ancient Egyptian law even addressed the problem with an eye for an eye approach.  The fallacy stems from the fact that only the best of the past remains standing and people take these examples as representative of the average build.  Most of these were built by the comparatively wealthy and the closest that 99% of us would get to one would be the privilege of working on it.

The comparative affordability of modern building allows all but the poorest to escape a landlord (dependant on economic cycles as well), and modern notions of privacy and personal space would not have been practical less than 100 years ago.  

From an engineering standpoint, there are a lot of benefits to the elastic nature of studwall construction.  Brick and plaster sounds like a solid third little piggy type build, but it's rigid nature means that any foundational shift (settlement, seismic, soil type, etc) will result almost immediately in visible cracking.  Drywall is the most commonly used internal lining in the world not only because of it's affordability but also because of superior performance when properly installed and finished.  It's poor reputation in America comes from underskilled (and underpaid) contractors and a general misapprehension of the nature of studwall/gypsum systems.

If you need to string someone up for what ails modern American building, look to the insurance companies and laws which they have basically written and passed for their own benefit.  Legislated fees, hold harmless agreements, an engineered disproportion of contractor liability to potential profit, a guaranteed insurance co profit with zero liability, etc.  

The bottom line for homeowners is that you won't get a Ferrari for the price of a Hyundai.  The bottom line for contractors is that the middle class always thinks that they should.  Overall, if the system were revamped to quit hemorrhaging money to insurance companies then people would get a lot closer to getting what they pay for.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 18, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
(http://www.northeastern.edu/offcampus/images/BeaconHill.jpg)

I used to live a block over on Revere Street.  Thats Louisberg square in Beacon Hill.  Actually, your looking at Carley Simon's house (middle).
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 18, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
(http://www.northeastern.edu/offcampus/images/back_bay1.jpg)

I live in the back bay now  :)  Thats right by Johnny Cupcakes on Newbury.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 18, 2009, 08:49:24 PM
Ill add another.  Northend:

(http://www.hiddenboston.com/images/NorthEnd.jpg)
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Post by: webcake on May 18, 2009, 11:44:16 PM
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Post by: Deicide on May 19, 2009, 07:02:26 AM
Ill add another.  Northend:

(http://www.hiddenboston.com/images/NorthEnd.jpg)

Northend of what?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on May 19, 2009, 07:06:25 AM
.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on May 19, 2009, 07:09:10 AM
.

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Post by: Deicide on May 19, 2009, 07:15:34 AM
.


That doesn't look like the midwest. ???
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on May 19, 2009, 12:59:48 PM
That doesn't look like the midwest. ???
Those are all Florida.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Migs on May 20, 2009, 02:54:36 PM
i have shown a ton of new construction homes and I prefer the way older homes like mine are built.  So many newer homes are already falling apart.  There are only a few new home builders i would consider and even then, i would still want to go over the BOM. 
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 20, 2009, 07:01:55 PM
Northend of what?


Boston, Ma.  It's by far the most "European looking" city in America.  Here is Commonwealth Ave in the Back Bay.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/388583483_f4acc022ed.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on May 20, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
www.besthousedesign.net

I like both 100 year old homes and ultra modern designs.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: mass 04 on May 21, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
body 88 gets around. ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 21, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
body88 is solid as a cock.  i live in mass
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Post by: Butterbean on May 21, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
Decent garage

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Post by: MB_722 on May 21, 2009, 07:33:20 PM
any more pictures STella  ?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on May 21, 2009, 07:38:28 PM
any more pictures STella  ?
It's the Robb Report 2009 Ultimate Home.  There is a link w/pics but they aren't anywhere as good as the mag pics.

I will make a note to take some pics from the magazine tomorrow. 

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on May 21, 2009, 07:40:59 PM
Here is a decent online one of the pool....but the mag pics are better

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
body 88 gets around. ;D

True, Iv'e lived in Beacon hill, On Tremont (by the commons), on Newbury, the northend and now I'm in the backbay.  Keep in mind that I went to college here also.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 10:34:53 AM
body88 is solid as a cock.  i live in mass

Which makes you a gentlemen and a scholar. 
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Fury on May 22, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
Which makes you a gentlemen and a scholar. 

Actually, it makes him second fiddle to Konnetikutians.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 22, 2009, 12:34:11 PM
conneticut is where new yorkers go to sleep every night, worst. state. ever.  the island of rhode>*
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
CT is very nice, but all the cities there are shitholes.  Hartford, - Bridgeport - etc.  My roomate in college was from Westport, I've been a million times.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 22, 2009, 01:39:33 PM
CT is very nice, but all the cities there are shitholes.  Hartford, - Bridgeport - etc.  My roomate in college was from Westport, I've been a million times.
Its a bit boring but some parts are pretty nice, it's supposedly the richest state in the country
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Fury on May 22, 2009, 01:40:29 PM
Fairfield County and the lower half of New Haven country are the only areas I consider CT. I view the rest of the state as the bastard children of an incestual Mass. relationship.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 22, 2009, 01:47:09 PM
conneticut state house is bomb

(http://www.ctmch.com/images/Connecticut%20State%20House.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 22, 2009, 01:49:36 PM
ct again
(http://secure.countywebsite.com/countycart/images/connecticut%20ct.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Fury on May 22, 2009, 01:51:50 PM
conneticut state house is bomb

(http://www.ctmch.com/images/Connecticut%20State%20House.jpg)

Yeah, it's pretty nice. Too bad most of Hartford sucks.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
Its a bit boring but some parts are pretty nice, it's supposedly the richest state in the country


Based on median income.  It's not the richest state as a whole.  Northeast = loaded.

1. Connecticut -$55,340
2. New Jersey -$52,120
3. Massachusetts -$47,960
4. Maryland -$47,800
5. Washington, D.C. -$47,370
6. Virginia -$45,220
7. New York -$44,810
8. California -$44,400
9. New Hampshire -$42,880
10. Colorado -$42,250
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Fury on May 22, 2009, 02:27:06 PM

Based on median income.  It's not the richest state as a whole. 

1. Connecticut -$55,340
2. New Jersey -$52,120
3. Massachusetts -$47,960
4. Maryland -$47,800
5. Washington, D.C. -$47,370
6. Virginia -$45,220
7. New York -$44,810
8. California -$44,400
9. New Hampshire -$42,880
10. Colorado -$42,250

That's Fairfield County propping that up. The average price of a house here is something around $450-500k while the rest of the state is like $150k, if I remember right.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
That's Fairfield County propping that up. The average price of a house here is something around $450-500k while the rest of the state is like $150k, if I remember right.

FC is the wealthiest county in the United States....or it was. 
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Fury on May 22, 2009, 02:38:08 PM
FC is the wealthiest county in the United States....or it was. 

It was but I don't think it is anymore. I remember some county in Wyoming or something passing us. Take Bridgeport out of FC and it probably moves back to the top.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
It was but I don't think it is anymore. I remember some county in Wyoming or something passing us. Take Bridgeport out of FC and it probably moves back to the top.

According to Wiki your still top ten per capita.....

1 New York County, New York (Manhattan) $93,377
2 Teton County, Wyoming $89,028
3 Pitkin County, Colorado $77,970
4 Loving County, Texas $77,787
5 Marin County, California $75,884
6 Fairfield County, Connecticut $67,269
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: mass 04 on May 22, 2009, 08:10:07 PM
lots of studly New Englanders in this thread. Also, a random shot of my favorite building in town.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2773134062_8968622117.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2009, 10:46:20 PM
lots of studly New Englanders in this thread. Also, a random shot of my favorite building in town.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2773134062_8968622117.jpg?v=0)

Agreed, none of the outsiders will recover.  Here is mine, followed by a picture of a females ass.....don't want baygyzmy fucking up this thread.

(http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/john-hancock-tower-boston-ma532.jpg)

(http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51630&stc=1)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 23, 2009, 12:52:43 AM
craftmenship is a thing of the past.  builders sell u BS for a better profit margin.  2nd one can be glued together faster too.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: sync pulse on May 23, 2009, 02:11:34 AM
This is my dream house....
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 23, 2009, 02:44:14 AM
I know plenty of guys who can and do do top end work, but there simply aren't enough multi million dollar residential jobs in most cities to keep a craftsman in work, so even the best tradesman around is obliged to meatball to some extent.  Most people simply cannot afford a level of quality that the super rich can pay for.  Same as it ever was.  

Supreme craftsmanship is alive and well but these are not the guys you'll find on an average budget job, and you definitely won't get it from uninsured Juan and his 12 no habla cousins' rock bottom quote.

Has anyone in this thread managed to identify a specific problem yet?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 03:33:09 AM
I know plenty of guys who can and do do top end work, but there simply aren't enough multi million dollar residential jobs in most cities to keep a craftsman in work, so even the best tradesman around is obliged to meatball to some extent.  Most people simply cannot afford a level of quality that the super rich can pay for.  Same as it ever was.  

Supreme craftsmanship is alive and well but these are not the guys you'll find on an average budget job, and you definitely won't get it from uninsured Juan and his 12 no habla cousins' rock bottom quote.

Has anyone in this thread managed to identify a specific problem yet?

You heard about the Indian family who are supposedly buidling the most expensive house in Australia in Peppermint Grove?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: newmom on May 23, 2009, 03:52:07 AM
in Southeastern Connecticut in Mystic...there is a new development that just went up around the corner and the new houses look nice but some dont have chimneys that I found to be odd..And I'm putting new siding up in the fall on the outside of the house and it is going to be about 13k..but I wont have to worry about painting the outside of the house.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 23, 2009, 03:58:32 AM
in Southeastern Connecticut in Mystic...there is a new development that just went up around the corner and the new houses look nice but some dont have chimneys that I found to be odd..And I'm putting new siding up in the fall on the outside of the house and it is going to be about 13k..but I wont have to worry about painting the outside of the house.
you should get rhinoshield paint instead of siding(looks like shit), it lasts forever, lifetime warranty.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 04:14:27 AM
My dream home:
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 04:22:57 AM
My dream home:

Nice. I think if you don't work hard enough, you may end up in one!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 04:27:31 AM
Nice. I think if you don't work hard enough, you may end up in one!

Great balcony.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 04:33:41 AM
Great balcony.

Wouldn't you rather a nice apartment over looking Central park?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 04:43:17 AM
Wouldn't you rather a nice apartment over looking Central park?

Will never have one my friend, I think the pic is the more realistic option.

But sure, if I were rich I would buy several plush flats (no houses though) in 7 or 8 different cities in the world.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 04:45:50 AM
Will never have one my friend, I think the pic is the more realistic option.

But sure, if I were rich I would buy several plush flats (no houses though) in 7 or 8 different cities in the world.

That would be fun.  8)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 04:54:18 AM
That would be fun.  8)

Yup. Always have a home in a nice place.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:12:18 AM
Yup. Always have a home in a nice place.

You could have a nice place in Sydney.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 05:22:49 AM
You could have a nice place in Sydney.

That would be one of the cities for sure.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:26:25 AM
That would be one of the cities for sure.

It is a nice place.........no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 23, 2009, 09:15:28 AM
You heard about the Indian family who are supposedly buidling the most expensive house in Australia in Peppermint Grove?

No, but maybe I'll drop off a business card!  :D  I can accommodate 'expensive.'
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 07, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
modern house design,

http://plastolux.com/ (http://plastolux.com/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 07, 2009, 03:15:17 PM
modern house design,

http://plastolux.com/ (http://plastolux.com/)

neat, thanks!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 07, 2009, 03:20:54 PM
post some more big brick houses.


also find me some of your gun threads. thx
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 07, 2009, 03:24:01 PM
post some more big brick houses.


also find me some of your gun threads. thx

Why?  ???

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=210893.0

Tudor Revival is my absolute favorite, no doubt

(http://images.frontdoor.com/FDOOR/articles/Architecture-Images/Tudor.jpg)

http://www.frontdoor.com/Buy/Tudor-Revival-Architecture/1046
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 07, 2009, 03:25:57 PM
Why?  ???

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=210893.0

Tudor Revival is my absolute favorite, no doubt

(http://images.frontdoor.com/FDOOR/articles/Architecture-Images/Tudor.jpg)

http://www.frontdoor.com/Buy/Tudor-Revival-Architecture/1046

Cause i'm interested in handguns again, thanks for the link.

yes tudor is one of my faves too!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 07, 2009, 05:56:10 PM
my 2 cents...

no home builder i have seen gives consideration to Internet proximity...

esp with technologies like DSL/cable where there is significant loss of signal strength with distance...

running extra wires thru the house and drilling holes in walls to make up for lack of thought on the builders part is crap  >:(
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on August 08, 2009, 09:20:01 AM
RPF, actually the aluminum siding holds up better and is much easier to maintain.  Wish I had it.  :-\

More of the shotty construction goes on where you don't see it....thinner subfloors, etc....

Aluminum siding makes it cheaper to build, ...as well as cheaper to buy.

Personally, I want nothing less than all brick or stone construction.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on August 08, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
Agree, I live in a neighborhood of 1920's homes.  I'd welcome a tornado to try and do any damage here...   ;D

oh no you wouldn't. {lol}  ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on August 08, 2009, 09:55:57 AM
This place isn't bad.

(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/1.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/2.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/3.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/4.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/5.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/6.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/7.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/8.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/9.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/10.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/11.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/12.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/13.jpg)


I'm not fond of the cabinetry in the kitchen & bathrooms, or the giant giraffes, ...but I could live with it.  :D


Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 08, 2009, 10:17:05 AM

I'm not fond of the cabinetry in the kitchen & bathrooms, or the giant giraffes, ...but I could live with it.  :D


it's nice. I'm not fond of them either. The choice in wood is terrible and the walls need some colour.  ... But I could live with it  :D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on August 08, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
it's nice. I'm not fond of them either. The choice in wood is terrible and the walls need some colour.  ... But I could live with it  :D

The front entrance isn't as grand as it should be, ...and the window frames are rather bland imo.
...definately in need of a skilled craftsman. In addition to colour, the walls also need some texture.

One of the most amazing mansions I've ever seen was the D'Angelo mansion in Orange County, owned by the family that owns "The Limited". It has streams running through the home stocked with koi. Absolutely breathtaking!

I'd also lose the red carpeting, ...it's just a little too stark for my taste.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 08, 2009, 10:35:35 AM
the red carpeting reminds me of vegas. lol
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 08, 2009, 11:12:59 AM
This place isn't bad.

(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/1.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/2.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/3.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/4.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/5.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/6.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/7.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/8.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/9.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/10.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/11.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/12.jpg)


(http://www.orangecountymansion.com/images/gallery/large/13.jpg)


I'm not fond of the cabinetry in the kitchen & bathrooms, or the giant giraffes, ...but I could live with it.  :D




Very neat
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: noworries on August 08, 2009, 01:24:27 PM
NOW THIS IS A HOUSE.  This is a friend of my friend.  They are business partners.  I am going to this house in a couple months to meet him.  And yes I will take pics.  But this guy is 72 years old and looks like he is 40.  This house is valued at $100 million.  35,000 sq ft on 80 acres in California near Hearst Castle.  This place is unreal.  Take the Virtual Tour

http://goldencoastcastle.com/ (http://goldencoastcastle.com/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2009, 12:31:49 AM
Flickr House Porn pool
http://www.flickr.com/groups/houseporn/pool/ (http://www.flickr.com/groups/houseporn/pool/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2009, 12:35:14 AM
TORONTO 2007 - ROSEDALE
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157594507953864/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157594507953864/)

some of these are amazing!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on August 09, 2009, 01:36:26 AM
the red carpeting reminds me of vegas. lol

{LOL} Yeah, ...either Vegas, ...or a very high end but tacky bordello.  ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on August 09, 2009, 02:25:55 AM
TORONTO 2007 - ROSEDALE
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157594507953864/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157594507953864/)

some of these are amazing!

Rosedale is ok. It's alot of very old money. Very stuffy, very WASPY and old It's more hyped than it should be imo.

Another very nice area is Forest Hill. I actually prefer Forest Hill to Rosedale. It's more Jewish than Rosedale because alot of folks at that time period were pretty anti-semitic, so as Jewish merchants became more prosperous and moved away from Spadina, since they couldn't live in Rosedale, they went to Forest Hill. Alot of late 19th & 20th century money resides in Forest Hill, like the Westons, Eatons, etc. imo, the ultimate in privacy and luxury within Toronto itself is The Bridle Path area. Some of those homes are simply amazing. That's where the artist formerly known as Prince bought. The Bridle Path is mostly relatively new money, and the homes are far more modern than anything you'll find in either Rosedale, and in some ways Forest Hill as well.

We used to shoot in some of those Bridle Path mansions, and my friend Jasmine lives there. I met her when we used her house as a location for 3 scenes for an Ellen Barkin movie. They made their money in computer software during the dot com boom. It was really wierd for her, because her and her husband were once struggling university students barely able to feed themselves. Their idea of a culinary feast was having a few veggies to toss into their packet of Ramen noodles... then swoosh, overnight, they became 20 something dot com multi-millionaires living along the Bridle Path. It was a tough job, ...but somehow, ...she managed to get used to her new status in life.  :P

The production company rented her front foyer, & kitchen for the shoot, ...and her driveway & front courtyard for honeytown. They located the costume department as well as our green room in her 5 yr old daughter's playroom. The playroom had to be at least 2,000 sq feet. Her back deck accomodated over 300 cast & crew for dinner, 3 catering set ups with plenty of room to spare. Incredible! The rental fee... $10 grand for one night. Not bad for renting out a couple of rooms.  :D

Another absolutely amazing mansion is the the one that used to belong to the former chairman of GM out in Oshawa. I forget the name of it, but it's a pretty common location we'd use for shoots. The grounds were like Tuscany gardens, incredibly expansive with Etruscan statuary.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2009, 12:01:17 PM
TORONTO 2007 - FOREST HILL/CASA LOMA

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157594508635834/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157594508635834/)

theres a whole bunch here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/collections/72157600015021928/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/collections/72157600015021928/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2009, 12:17:11 PM
Quote
Collection of mansion homes from a prestigious location at Leslie St. and Lawrence Ave. The "Bridle Path."

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fishin_rod/sets/72157604959302023/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fishin_rod/sets/72157604959302023/)



Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 11, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
Before: http://www.tylergourley.com/covehousebefore/ (http://www.tylergourley.com/covehousebefore/)

After: http://www.3602apollo.com/ (http://www.3602apollo.com/)


Love the After pics! nice wood
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 11, 2009, 02:26:21 PM
wow  :o
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on September 14, 2009, 07:19:57 AM
Before: http://www.tylergourley.com/covehousebefore/ (http://www.tylergourley.com/covehousebefore/)

After: http://www.3602apollo.com/ (http://www.3602apollo.com/)


Love the After pics! nice wood

Very nice!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 14, 2009, 11:39:17 AM
I like these two,

Horizontal Space | Damilano Studio Architects
http://plusmood.com/2009/05/horizontal-space-damilano-studio-architects/ (http://plusmood.com/2009/05/horizontal-space-damilano-studio-architects/)

Yoder/Doornbos Residence | Michael P. Johnson
http://plusmood.com/2009/03/yoderdoornbos-residence-michael-p-johnson/ (http://plusmood.com/2009/03/yoderdoornbos-residence-michael-p-johnson/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on September 14, 2009, 01:19:17 PM
I like these two,

Horizontal Space | Damilano Studio Architects
http://plusmood.com/2009/05/horizontal-space-damilano-studio-architects/ (http://plusmood.com/2009/05/horizontal-space-damilano-studio-architects/)

Yoder/Doornbos Residence | Michael P. Johnson
http://plusmood.com/2009/03/yoderdoornbos-residence-michael-p-johnson/ (http://plusmood.com/2009/03/yoderdoornbos-residence-michael-p-johnson/)


Those are great!  I'm loving the 2nd one (w/the exception of the yellow in the kitchen)



Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 14, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
to many things going on in that kitchen Stella. I like the flooring.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Signifying Monkey on September 14, 2009, 03:48:23 PM
Poor RPF, found a new home in T/O
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 14, 2009, 03:49:33 PM
Poor RPF, found a new home in T/O

LOL what'd he do?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Signifying Monkey on September 14, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
LOL what'd he do?

Nothing as far as i know.  I was working late last night and checking getbig pretty frequently and I saw nothing controversial.  he posted some porn, but he did it on the sex board

He started some off-topic threads, but so did I ....
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 14, 2009, 04:08:34 PM
Nothing as far as i know.  I was working late last night and checking getbig pretty frequently and I saw nothing controversial.  he posted some porn, but he did it on the sex board

He started some off-topic threads, but so did I ....

lol shitty
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 16, 2009, 11:00:52 AM
nice design and I love the open space.


http://plastolux.com/nettle-architects-modern-residential.html (http://plastolux.com/nettle-architects-modern-residential.html)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 16, 2009, 11:20:28 AM
one thing with these modern houses I've been posting is they're too white. need some color on the walls
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: big L dawg on September 16, 2009, 11:26:59 AM
some sweet ass houses for sure.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 16, 2009, 12:24:46 PM
this one is cool!

http://design-milk.com/bedford-house-in-new-york-by-lynne-breslin-architects/ (http://design-milk.com/bedford-house-in-new-york-by-lynne-breslin-architects/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 16, 2009, 12:26:55 PM
so is this one

http://design-milk.com/nightingale-drive-house-los-angeles-by-marc-canadell/ (http://design-milk.com/nightingale-drive-house-los-angeles-by-marc-canadell/)

anyone have any other house designs to post???
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 16, 2009, 03:52:31 PM
so is this one

http://design-milk.com/nightingale-drive-house-los-angeles-by-marc-canadell/ (http://design-milk.com/nightingale-drive-house-los-angeles-by-marc-canadell/)

anyone have any other house designs to post???

(http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/2007/09/26/wright-topper.jpg)

We have a few houses in town designed by a relative of Frank Loyd Wright... Very neat homes, I was in one.  The basement had a long narrow tunnel for all the utilities.  It was weird/hard to explain.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Butterbean on September 16, 2009, 08:04:13 PM
(http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/2007/09/26/wright-topper.jpg)

We have a few houses in town designed by a relative of Frank Loyd Wright... Very neat homes, I was in one.  The basement had a long narrow tunnel for all the utilities.  It was weird/hard to explain.
Beautiful!  But seems like the water would cause problems?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 16, 2009, 08:17:05 PM
Beautiful!  But seems like the water would cause problems?

It does, I wonder how they built the foundation?  ???
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on September 17, 2009, 12:48:11 AM
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/13/house_narrowweb__300x461,0.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 17, 2009, 02:07:00 PM
Mansion near Bariloche, Argentina
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2166/2067788691_71fcc4ce6e_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on September 17, 2009, 04:53:54 PM
I lived in an apartment not to for from this "urban mansion" in Beacon Hill, Boston Ma.

(http://mass.historicbuildingsct.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/second-harrison-gray-otis-house.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on October 03, 2009, 06:53:32 PM
I lived in an apartment not to for from this "urban mansion" in Beacon Hill, Boston Ma.

(http://mass.historicbuildingsct.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/second-harrison-gray-otis-house.jpg)

wondfer what this looks like inside
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 03, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
wow  :o

Ambleside: Marge Schott’s 1928 Estate in Cincinnati

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_90.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_1.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_11.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_81.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_2.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_82.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_3.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_85.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_58.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_37.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_86.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_8.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_6.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_12.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_9.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_32.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_46.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_23.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_30.jpg)

(http://www.sibcy.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_16.jpg)

(http://www.sibcycline.com/sibcyphotos/listnet/cin/1177056_19.jpg)

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Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on October 03, 2009, 07:27:42 PM
way too small for me.....

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 03, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
way too small for me.....



Yeah, but it would make a nice pool house.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: webcake on October 03, 2009, 07:42:47 PM
Yeah, but it would make a nice pool house.

How much?

Perhaps i should look at investing in the north American market.....
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on October 03, 2009, 09:12:34 PM
those interior shots RPF are pretty fucking sweet :D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 07, 2009, 01:47:40 AM
RPF, I like your style!  :D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 07, 2009, 09:27:45 AM
RPF, I like your style!  :D

I like your style!  8)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: noworries on October 07, 2009, 09:51:35 AM
What is the nicest home you have ever been in?

Mine would have to be Aaron Spellings house at 55,000 sq.ft. and about $50 million. 
Wilt Chamberlin's old house was really nice. 
My old agents house was pretty nice in Beverly Hills
Stallone's old house in Pacific Palisades is really nice as is Speilbergs
Sonny Bono's house in Palm Springs was nice
Our family (shared by all the family) hideaway is in a place called The Little Switzerland of America (Ouray, CO).  I never personally have seen it cause it was strictly for the older people in my family no kids were allowed.  I was never really close to my aunt so I never seen the place but my dad and mom said it is simply unreal.

I just realized to many to list.  And to bad none of them are mine
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Option D on October 07, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
RPF, actually the aluminum siding holds up better and is much easier to maintain.  Wish I had it.  :-\

More of the shotty construction goes on where you don't see it....thinner subfloors, etc....


hahah my old house in Dekalb county ga was built in 95...had somoe shitty pressed material plank siding....when it raind...it swelled...replaced that shit with hardy plank....straight concrete baby
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: body88 on October 07, 2009, 05:46:09 PM
Typical mansions in Cape Cod, Ma.

(http://www.blavish.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/cape-cod-estate.jpg)

(http://img7.travelblog.org/Photos/8175/422148/f/4095536-Mansion-near-the-Kennedy-Compound-Hyannis-Cape-Cod-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 31, 2009, 06:37:01 AM
(http://www.loghome.com/images/Articles/log-cabin-w-stone-porch.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on November 03, 2009, 12:03:09 AM
(http://www.loghome.com/images/Articles/log-cabin-w-stone-porch.jpg)

BEAUTIFUL!!!!!  :o  i want.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 03, 2009, 05:38:15 AM
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!  :o  i want.

Same, I never even really liked the Log Cabin look but that's definitely nice!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: INSOMNIA on November 04, 2009, 12:39:13 AM
Same, I never even really liked the Log Cabin look but that's definitely nice!

Have you been inside one? My ex's grandparents had one on the lake they built themselves..that place was a fortress!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 04, 2009, 12:47:35 AM
It does, I wonder how they built the foundation?  ???
it's on the bedrock.  If it starts to cause problems they only have to divert the stream on their property, but that won't be for a long time if at all...
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 04, 2009, 08:12:06 AM
Have you been inside one? My ex's grandparents had one on the lake they built themselves..that place was a fortress!

That's cool, I've been in a small one that was suppose to be like a replica of one the pioneers would have lived in but that's all.  It was really neat inside.  Had really big floor planks and stuff.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 04, 2009, 08:13:48 AM
it's on the bedrock.  If it starts to cause problems they only have to divert the stream on their property, but that won't be for a long time if at all...

Wow, thanks for the info!

Nice signature pic btw...
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: 24KT on November 06, 2009, 09:53:24 PM
NOW THIS IS A HOUSE.  This is a friend of my friend.  They are business partners.  I am going to this house in a couple months to meet him.  And yes I will take pics.  But this guy is 72 years old and looks like he is 40.  This house is valued at $100 million.  35,000 sq ft on 80 acres in California near Hearst Castle.  This place is unreal.  Take the Virtual Tour

http://goldencoastcastle.com/ (http://goldencoastcastle.com/)

WOW!!! I can't believe i missed this previously.
Now that's one heckuva house!!!!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2010, 12:46:25 PM
I like looking at houses. sad hobby of mine lol

http://www.luxist.com/category/estates/ (http://www.luxist.com/category/estates/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2010, 12:47:10 PM
http://www.contemporist.com/ (http://www.contemporist.com/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 09, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
sad hobby of mine lol

Same...  ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 09, 2010, 08:50:18 PM
I like A-Cero Architects.

http://www.contemporist.com/?s=a-cero
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on September 04, 2010, 03:38:06 PM
http://www.archdaily.com/75687/casa-torcida-spg-architects/ (http://www.archdaily.com/75687/casa-torcida-spg-architects/)
http://www.archdaily.com/75564/zamel-house-kontrast-arquitectura/ (http://www.archdaily.com/75564/zamel-house-kontrast-arquitectura/)
 :o :D
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126265-fachada-entorno-1.jpg)
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126216-fachada-anochecer-29.jpg)
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126235-fachada-anochecer-panorama-1.jpg)
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126080-cuarto-3.jpg)
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126058-cocina-7.jpg)
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126173-fachada-anochecer-19-.jpg)
(http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1281126025-area-social-34.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: noworries on September 04, 2010, 08:14:23 PM
Back in the early 90's I was looking at waterfront homes in a place called Canyon Lake, CA by Lake Elsinore.  A few I looked at were absolutely awesome.  Oe of them had a dock and garage under the house at water level.  It was awesome. 
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Cy Tolliver on September 04, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
Back in the early 90's I was looking at waterfront homes in a place called Canyon Lake, CA by Lake Elsinore.  A few I looked at were absolutely awesome.  Oe of them had a dock and garage under the house at water level.  It was awesome. 

yeah sure ypu were
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on November 11, 2010, 02:47:54 PM
several that I like, click the link for more photos.

(http://www.archdaily.com/85972/ad-classics-bass-residence-paul-rudolph/img004/)
http://www.archdaily.com/85972/ad-classics-bass-residence-paul-rudolph/ (http://www.archdaily.com/85972/ad-classics-bass-residence-paul-rudolph/)

I want a room like this in my house, just to do anything.
(http://www.plastolux.com/blog/naco2.jpg)

(http://www.luxist.com/media/2010/09/a0084901-1.jpg)
http://www.luxist.com/2010/11/02/pacific-heights-estate-of-the-day/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/11/02/pacific-heights-estate-of-the-day/)

(http://www.contemporist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ws_101110_05-630x423.jpg)
http://www.contemporist.com/2010/11/10/williams-studio-by-gh3/ (http://www.contemporist.com/2010/11/10/williams-studio-by-gh3/)

(http://www.luxist.com/media/2010/11/a2522414p0112.jpg)
http://www.luxist.com/2010/11/09/lakeshore-drive-estate-of-the-day/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/11/09/lakeshore-drive-estate-of-the-day/)


Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: benchmstr on November 11, 2010, 07:12:16 PM
some beauties :)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Oxt12I-YRsw/R8HgQp2kAMI/AAAAAAAAG-s/TypLGE-oeu8/s400/HouseNext2Dress.jpg)

(http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/03/43/44/400_F_3434428_1BRxvfGnXm1Tr63WYmAufu9kVkUsTr.jpg)

(http://www.doorsopenontario.on.ca/userfiles/page_attachments/1/10113_3745451_Sleepy-Hollow-B-and-B.jpg)

(http://www.heskinhall.co.uk/images/front.jpg)
that bottom house looks like my parents house...

bench
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 24, 2010, 05:11:10 PM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up--January 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/22/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-january-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/22/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-january-2010/)

Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up-- February 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/23/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-february-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/23/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-february-2010/)

Estate of the Day Year End Wrap-Up--March 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/24/year-end-real-estate-wrap-up-march-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/24/year-end-real-estate-wrap-up-march-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 24, 2010, 10:24:32 PM
Are homes built with plaster, and good wood work really that much more expensive to build than these new homes that go up everywhere covered in shitty looking Aluminum siding and drywall?

 ???

 :)
(http://www.homes-for-sale-portland.com/images/eastmoreland-luxury-big.jpg)

 :-X
(http://lorrie.cranor.org/photos/houselawn.jpg)

Dime a dozen in So. Cal
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 25, 2010, 11:13:19 AM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up-- April 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/25/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-april-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/25/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-april-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 26, 2010, 04:53:31 PM
Estate of the Day Year-End Round-Up--May 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/26/estate-of-the-day-year-end-round-up-may-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/26/estate-of-the-day-year-end-round-up-may-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 26, 2010, 11:51:43 PM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up--June 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/27/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-june-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/27/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-june-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: FREAKgeek on December 27, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B00wtPi-tQg/THixsVU_K4I/AAAAAAAAAKI/t-3rzdCbSFY/s1600/homeless-condo.jpg)

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 27, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up-- July 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/28/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-july-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/28/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-july-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 28, 2010, 11:01:48 PM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up--August 2010
http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/29/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-august-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/29/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-august-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 29, 2010, 11:29:10 PM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up-- September 2010

http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/30/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-september-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/30/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-september-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on December 31, 2010, 12:14:54 AM
Estate of the Day Year-End Wrap-Up--October/November 2010

http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/31/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-october-november-2010/ (http://www.luxist.com/2010/12/31/estate-of-the-day-year-end-wrap-up-october-november-2010/)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 18, 2011, 08:35:08 PM
Bump
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: MB_722 on August 18, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
sweet bump far too lazy to look for this. I stopped looking at house designs. I'll try keeping this thread alive. :D

did the rpf account get banned?
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 18, 2011, 11:42:10 PM
sweet bump far too lazy to look for this. I stopped looking at house designs. I'll try keeping this thread alive. :D

did the rpf account get banned?

I can't answer that question, but I hope you stick around!  You're the second or third best poster on this site!   ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 18, 2011, 11:45:55 PM
(http://buffaloah.com/a/archsty/tud/tc.jpg)

(http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/cdap/images/cdap_img3769.jpeg)

(http://www.heritagedesignstudio.com/images/example_tudor.jpg)

(http://roebucksprings.org/images/644RidgeRoad.gif)

(http://chelise.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/11/cars20at20mbh.jpg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 08, 2012, 01:02:35 PM
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 08, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Nirvana on February 10, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
(http://bighornforge.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/biltmore.jpeg)
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: tbombz on February 10, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
They are objectively more aesthetic. Surely you must agree on that.
ah, the supremely confident deicude  ;D
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: sync pulse on February 10, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
My answer is as follows


…Because the teeming masses of America came to the conclusion that educating American children about fine art and classical music was “Elitist”…So therefore the consumers coming on line now have no concept of what is refined and sublime…
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 10, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
My answer is as follows


…Because the teeming masses of America came to the conclusion that educating American children about fine art and classical music was “Elitist”…So therefore the consumers coming on line now have no concept of what is refined and sublime…

You are quickly becoming one of my favorite posters!!!

Fucking brilliant!
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Montague on February 12, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
(http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/2007/09/26/wright-topper.jpg)

We have a few houses in town designed by a relative of Frank Loyd Wright... Very neat homes, I was in one.  The basement had a long narrow tunnel for all the utilities.  It was weird/hard to explain.

That's Falling Water; built in the 1930's by Frank L. Wright for Edgar Kaufmann, president of Kaufmann's Department Store.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Fallingwater%2CDec08.jpg/450px-Fallingwater%2CDec08.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/FallingwaterPathway.jpg/800px-FallingwaterPathway.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Fallingwater_sitting_area.jpg)



Beautiful!  But seems like the water would cause problems?

Yeah, the sound alone would make you have to piss all night.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: sync pulse on February 12, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
A builder told me about Frank Lloyd Wright:

Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Montague on February 12, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
A builder told me about Frank Lloyd Wright:

  • His rooves tended to be leakey
  • He used wood framing on his cantilevers when  he should have used steel, so they would start to sag after a couple of years
  • You would pay Frank Lloyd Wright's fees while his underlings did most of the actual design work
  • He was a terrible boss


He was also allegedly a bit of a "charmer" when soliciting potential clients.
There's a story that Wright was at the Kaufmann's home (where they lived prior to FW) and was engaged in a discussion with Kaufmann's son. At one point, Wright deliberately mentioned to the son - loud enough for the father to hear - "This home is not worthy of your parents."

Supposedly, the Kaufmann's contracted him soon thereafter to survey some wooded property they owned on the outskirts of Pittsburgh, and design blueprints for what would become their new house built over top of the small waterfalls that coursed through the land.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 13, 2012, 02:57:19 AM
At the beginning, people just want the lowest bidder.  Match the other guy's quote, use cheaper materials, etc.  Price is everything.  At the end of the job, all those trade practices which didn't mean much compared to the quote suddenly get so important. 

Sure, we can fix up those clowns work for you.  You want the quote?  :-*


Show me one of these awesome 'like they used to' houses that got built at a rock bottom price so that workingclass Joe had a place to hang his hat.
Title: Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 13, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
I fucking love that, thanks for the info!!!