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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2009, 03:53:20 PM »
The claim that they don't build 'em like they used to is bs.  Building has always been profit driven and therefore shoddy work has always been a problem.  Ancient Egyptian law even addressed the problem with an eye for an eye approach.  The fallacy stems from the fact that only the best of the past remains standing and people take these examples as representative of the average build.  Most of these were built by the comparatively wealthy and the closest that 99% of us would get to one would be the privilege of working on it.

The comparative affordability of modern building allows all but the poorest to escape a landlord (dependant on economic cycles as well), and modern notions of privacy and personal space would not have been practical less than 100 years ago.  

From an engineering standpoint, there are a lot of benefits to the elastic nature of studwall construction.  Brick and plaster sounds like a solid third little piggy type build, but it's rigid nature means that any foundational shift (settlement, seismic, soil type, etc) will result almost immediately in visible cracking.  Drywall is the most commonly used internal lining in the world not only because of it's affordability but also because of superior performance when properly installed and finished.  It's poor reputation in America comes from underskilled (and underpaid) contractors and a general misapprehension of the nature of studwall/gypsum systems.

If you need to string someone up for what ails modern American building, look to the insurance companies and laws which they have basically written and passed for their own benefit.  Legislated fees, hold harmless agreements, an engineered disproportion of contractor liability to potential profit, a guaranteed insurance co profit with zero liability, etc.  

The bottom line for homeowners is that you won't get a Ferrari for the price of a Hyundai.  The bottom line for contractors is that the middle class always thinks that they should.  Overall, if the system were revamped to quit hemorrhaging money to insurance companies then people would get a lot closer to getting what they pay for.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2009, 08:45:41 PM »


I used to live a block over on Revere Street.  Thats Louisberg square in Beacon Hill.  Actually, your looking at Carley Simon's house (middle).

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2009, 08:46:49 PM »


I live in the back bay now  :)  Thats right by Johnny Cupcakes on Newbury.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2009, 08:49:24 PM »
Ill add another.  Northend:


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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2009, 11:44:16 PM »
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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2009, 07:02:26 AM »
Ill add another.  Northend:



Northend of what?
I hate the State.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2009, 07:06:25 AM »
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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2009, 07:09:10 AM »
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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2009, 07:15:34 AM »
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That doesn't look like the midwest. ???
I hate the State.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2009, 12:59:48 PM »
That doesn't look like the midwest. ???
Those are all Florida.
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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2009, 02:54:36 PM »
i have shown a ton of new construction homes and I prefer the way older homes like mine are built.  So many newer homes are already falling apart.  There are only a few new home builders i would consider and even then, i would still want to go over the BOM. 

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2009, 07:01:55 PM »
Northend of what?


Boston, Ma.  It's by far the most "European looking" city in America.  Here is Commonwealth Ave in the Back Bay.


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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2009, 09:47:14 PM »
www.besthousedesign.net

I like both 100 year old homes and ultra modern designs.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2009, 08:21:00 AM »
body 88 gets around. ;D

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2009, 03:28:16 PM »
body88 is solid as a cock.  i live in mass

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #65 on: May 21, 2009, 07:29:11 PM »
Decent garage

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #66 on: May 21, 2009, 07:33:20 PM »
any more pictures STella  ?

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #67 on: May 21, 2009, 07:38:28 PM »
any more pictures STella  ?
It's the Robb Report 2009 Ultimate Home.  There is a link w/pics but they aren't anywhere as good as the mag pics.

I will make a note to take some pics from the magazine tomorrow. 

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #68 on: May 21, 2009, 07:40:59 PM »
Here is a decent online one of the pool....but the mag pics are better

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2009, 10:32:23 AM »
body 88 gets around. ;D

True, Iv'e lived in Beacon hill, On Tremont (by the commons), on Newbury, the northend and now I'm in the backbay.  Keep in mind that I went to college here also.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2009, 10:34:53 AM »
body88 is solid as a cock.  i live in mass

Which makes you a gentlemen and a scholar. 

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2009, 10:39:20 AM »
Which makes you a gentlemen and a scholar. 

Actually, it makes him second fiddle to Konnetikutians.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2009, 12:34:11 PM »
conneticut is where new yorkers go to sleep every night, worst. state. ever.  the island of rhode>*

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2009, 01:37:00 PM »
CT is very nice, but all the cities there are shitholes.  Hartford, - Bridgeport - etc.  My roomate in college was from Westport, I've been a million times.

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Re: Why don't they build decent homes anymore?
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2009, 01:39:33 PM »
CT is very nice, but all the cities there are shitholes.  Hartford, - Bridgeport - etc.  My roomate in college was from Westport, I've been a million times.
Its a bit boring but some parts are pretty nice, it's supposedly the richest state in the country