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Getbig Female Info Boards => Open Talk for Girl Discussion => Topic started by: Camel Jockey on May 31, 2007, 06:05:35 PM
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I know and often hear that women love confidence in a man. However, I see many women who enjoy the whole 'badboy' and 'asshole' thing where a guy is arrogant and displays false ego.
Do women enjoy a bit of both? Or is it just confidence?
Can I start off confident and play nice guy and then switch to being an ass if I know I have the girl's admiration? I've seen women who seem head over heels in love and they seem to enjoy the 'badboy' routine. But will that work in the initial date or when I'm trying to get that number?
I seem to get mixed answers, so I thought I'd ask women on the internet. ;D
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can't have true confidence without arrogance or cockiness
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can't have true confidence without arrogance or cockiness
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Not true. There is a difference between confidence and arrogance/cockiness.
Confidence is being sure of one's self.
Arrogance/cockiness is being in love with yourself and thinking you are far better than others.
I can be sure of myself, but still know that I am not better than someone else.
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a hundred dollar bill.
What? ;D ;)
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Not to change the topic but it's kind of the same. I find confident women very attractive but cocky or arrogant women very unattractive. Sometimes it's a subtle difference.
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an insecure girl will see confidence as arragance and a secure girl will love it..
simple..
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an insecure girl will see confidence as arragance and a secure girl will love it..
simple..
Hold me... ;D
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ROFL. I'm glad that juni took off his avatar before you said that
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ROFL. I'm glad that juni took off his avatar before you said that
You just wish you got it in first... ;D
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shotgun anus
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shotgun anus
Damm got me..Good one. ;D
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well i try. and mommy always says it's ok as long as you try, you'll always be a winner. lol
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well i try. and mommy always says it's ok as long as you try, you'll always be a winner. lol
She's right your a winner... ;D
(http://www.ulster.ac.uk/news/images/special-olympics.jpg)
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Hey, leave my brother alone. He's the samrt one.
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Hold me... ;D
i dunt swordfight >:(
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i dunt swordfight >:(
Who wants to swordfight just a little quiet petting... ;D
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Who wants to swordfight just a little quiet petting... ;D
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Who wants to swordfight just a little quiet petting... ;D
ok... >:( as long as you tuck :D
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Not true. There is a difference between confidence and arrogance/cockiness.
Confidence is being sure of one's self.
Arrogance/cockiness is being in love with yourself and thinking you are far better than others.
I can be sure of myself, but still know that I am not better than someone else.
I don't agree
guys that are truly confident are arrogant and cocky too, they just are socially intelligent enough hide their arrogance and come off somewhat humble
inside their minds they think they are better than most 8)
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ok... >:( as long as you tuck :D
;D I have a no tuck rule... ;D
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Glad Always Sore showed up and has got Migs going. (Even if AS doesn't much think I'm funny and will probably have a go at me. I know I'm not terribly clever, but...
Hey, I'll try not to drink too much tonight.
Okay, this thread, I like it. I've oft wondered.
As a woman, I reckon there's a big rift between confidence and self-esteem. I have tons of confidence and every reason to, but the self-esteem issue is difficult to define.
So, are you saying that with blokes it's about confidence and something else?
xL
I thought the arrogance was just an ego thing?
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Glad Always Sore showed up and has got Migs going. (Even if AS doesn't much think I'm funny and will probably have a go at me. I know I'm not terribly clever, but...
Hey, I'll try not to drink too much tonight.
Okay, this thread, I like it. I've oft wondered.
As a woman, I reckon there's a big rift between confidence and self-esteem. I have tons of confidence and every reason to, but the self-esteem issue is difficult to define.
So, are you saying that with blokes it's about confidence and something else?
xL
I thought the arrogance was just an ego thing?
It's been awhile...Missed you crazy... ;D
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Naaa, let me re-define myself and my previous post. Male arrogance is simply, I thought, the left-brain thing. They only think about themselves most of the time.
My dictionary says presumptuous and haughty. Hahaha
xxx
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I don't agree
inside their minds they think they are better than most
confidence is knowing that you certainly are better than most.
xL
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Earl very well put, I rarely know anyone with only one trait. Confidence brings along arrogance cockiness, but some people hide it very well like Earl said. You arn't going to have a hot girl that doesn't know she is hot and have an attitude about it, some hide it better than others.
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exactly
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It's been awhile...Missed you crazy... ;D
haha
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is that arrogance or confidence you're doing?
Neither
...in the eyes of this woman
xL
How do I get this .gif to go to avatar?
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I don't agree
guys that are truly confident are arrogant and cocky too, they just are socially intelligent enough hide their arrogance and come off somewhat humble
inside their minds they think they are better than most 8)
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Thanks, Earl.
I had come to same conclusion, but in my mind I thought 'why the need to hide the arrogance if they like it'
I guess it's all the same shit. ;D
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Thanks, Earl.
I had come to same conclusion, but in my mind I thought 'why the need to hide the arrogance if they like it'
I guess it's all the same shit. ;D
Provided you don't call it arrogant.
xL
...can I come back to this thread, it's bugging me. It's not the same shit. Ego is one thing. Most women past the age of 20 can comprehend that. Ego is a male thing. Perhaps they can't spell it right.
Confidence is something you either have or don't have. Not sure where you get it from, but I understand it.
And arrogance is not nice, it's kinda maybe a class thing in my opinion, it's a holier than thou thing and it's hugely unattractive.
You cannot be better than me. Perhaps equal. (That's if we're playing on a level field...
I don't have a problem with vanity, that's fine.
xL
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I like your veins.
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I know and often hear that women love confidence in a man. However, I see many women who enjoy the whole 'badboy' and 'asshole' thing where a guy is arrogant and displays false ego.
Do women enjoy a bit of both? Or is it just confidence?
Can I start off confident and play nice guy and then switch to being an ass if I know I have the girl's admiration? I've seen women who seem head over heels in love and they seem to enjoy the 'badboy' routine. But will that work in the initial date or when I'm trying to get that number?
I seem to get mixed answers, so I thought I'd ask women on the internet. ;D
Depends on the age of the woman your with. I think most in late teens, early 20s women are drawn to/turned on by the badboy approach. As we get more maturity and experience in life, arrogance is a complete turn off.
Confidence is always in, so is kind-heartedness, honesty and generosity. (I am happy to say I have a man with all those qualities :-*) I like to be treated like a lady.
I dont think any women like being treated badly, although very young immature women may see that as a challenge.
Trying too hard and getting SHIT on time and time again is often times a sign that youre simply dating out of your league, or you are a bad judge of character... not that "nice guys or girls finish last". Be more realistic, and stop chasing a dream!
You should value each other equally.
Being too clingy or being a doormat is a turnoff also. If you dont value yourself how is anyone else supposed to? There is alot to be said for self respect!
Ask yourself, do you really want a woman that only likes arrogant assholes anyway? Why play games?
My question to you is, WHY, if the girl digs your nice guy routine, would you switch to acting like an asshole? I dont see the logic. ???
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Depends on the age of the woman your with. I think most in late teens, early 20s women are drawn to/turned on by the badboy approach. As we get more maturity and experience in life, arrogance is a complete turn off.
Confidence is always in, so is kind-heartedness, honesty and generosity. (I am happy to say I have a man with all those qualities :-*) I like to be treated like a lady.
I dont think any women like being treated badly, although very young immature women may see that as a challenge.
Trying too hard and getting SHIT on time and time again is often times a sign that youre simply dating out of your league, or you are a bad judge of character... not that "nice guys or girls finish last". Be more realistic, and stop chasing a dream!
You should value each other equally.
Being too clingy or being a doormat is a turnoff also. If you dont value yourself how is anyone else supposed to? There is alot to be said for self respect!
Ask yourself, do you really want a woman that only likes arrogant assholes anyway? Why play games?
My question to you is, WHY, if the girl digs your nice guy routine, would you switch to acting like an asshole? I dont see the logic. ???
These women seem harder to come by(the young ones). Older women seem to like being treated like ladies, while younger women don't respond much to it. But I am not interested in older women as I am only 20.
I dont think any women like being treated badly, although very young immature women may see that as a challenge.
I have seen this from my own observations. Why are these girls like this? I used to have this semi-friend who was with this asshole guy who didn't aspire to shit, yet she was still with him. I felt sorry for her because it seemed as though she was longing to be saved or something. Despite my pity, I kinda saw her as damaged goods. Why would a pretty girl be with a slob like that? I couldn't comprehend it then, and I sure as hell can't now.
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confidence is when ys fart in bed and hold your woman down under the sheets..
let the bitch scream and struggle a little.. ;D
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rofl. you're gonna get slapped!
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rofl. you're gonna get slapped!
no i'm not..if she slaps me i'd dump her on the spot..and then fuck her friends in the following weeks..
in all seriousness i'm a nice guy....and everyone pretty much knows that...i just got a mean streak for jokes ;D
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no i'm not..if she slaps me i'd dump her on the spot..and then fuck her friends in the following weeks..
And you were calling me a "used car" or whatever that was ::)
Lisa
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last year I bought a new car, and then immediately wished i'd bought a slightly used car. Slightly and gently used cars are the best value for your money. what do you guys think?
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And you were calling me a "used car" or whatever that was ::)
Lisa
you r married...hense not part of any train of thought i posses..
i admire your candor and honesty though...and thats all.
cheers :)
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so a "used car" can become new?
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you r reading 2 much into this mate..
married women as far as it concerns me are not sexual beings..PERIOD!
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you r reading 2 much into this mate..
married women as far as it concerns me are not sexual beings..PERIOD!
Depends on who they are married too!
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last year I bought a new car, and then immediately wished i'd bought a slightly used car. Slightly and gently used cars are the best value for your money. what do you guys think?
Yes, the depreciation is 5 times greater in the first year. and the market is usually flooded with one year old lease returns, so you can buy them at wholesale book or below often times.
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Depends on who they are married too!
does not matter to me...
married women are OFF LIMITS
girls with Boyfriends are OFF LIMITS
i get hit on by enough women to warrent me considering other options.. ;) and even if i didn't..i'd still stick to my morals..
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Yes, the depreciation is 5 times greater in the first year. and the market is usually flooded with one year old lease returns, so you can buy them at wholesale book or below often times.
did you get a 'gently used' car recently, insomnia? ;D
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Morals, they are gonna hold you back in life brotha, married women are freaky, and don't mind cheating has been my experience.
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giggling (or if I was in America I'd be ROFL and the carpet) at your arrogance and lack of confidence. Maybe because I'm way over 30.
mad thread.
You wanna talk about the confidence or whatever that married women may have? Not that I would know. I thought the topic was about male ego.
Listen to ProF. There are plenty of 20/25 year old babes with £3,000 fake tits their mothers & absent fathers paid for which you can go pat (troll.
That's if you wanna big up your male ego confidence thingy.
Get real.
xL
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Arrogance is over the line by definition. It's past the point where your looking for trouble by virtue of
overconfidence. You have to allow for things not to go 100% your way, they don't for anyone.
Arrogant is not a trait of successful self-made guys.
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Morals, they are gonna hold you back in life brotha, .
its gonna be a tough life..YES...
..but nothing worth having ws easy having..yes brother?
i can wake up every day ..look meself in the mirror and know i'm a good man..
honour trumps all..
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I agree with the not mess w/ married women, there's plenty others. And there plenty guys that will kill you for messing w/ their wife. And thats fine by me.
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trab, there are also husbands....that do nothing, even though they know their wife is cheating....because they don't care...whatever they are getting...usuallýmoney, is more important. the wife thinks they forgive, but really, they don't forgive, they just see the wife as a means to an end.....or so I havw heard.
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that's not confidence nor is it arrogance. that's mad.
xL
leave and regain.
work on your self esteem and them glutes.
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trab, there are also husbands....that do nothing, even though they know their wife is cheating....because they don't care...whatever they are getting...usuallýmoney, is more important. the wife thinks they forgive, but really, they don't forgive, they just see the wife as a means to an end.....or so I havw heard.
Yeah, I know the kind that dont care, thats different... go ahead. Hell, some husbands will roll film while they watch.. But if you're messin w/ a guys wife, and he dont know, and cares, that's asking for a bullet in the ear. And that's just fine. A guy plays that game He learns about games with no rules. Plenty of other women out there.
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well I meant when the husbans finds out...then takes her back. meanwhile she makes the money...she thinks all is forgiven. nothing is forgiven, the husband needs the mealticket, and the wife is dumn enough to think she got away with it.....If my wife cheated on me...I would never have her back. But then again, I can pay my own bills....
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I will remind you only once Rhino to keep within the topic and do not make it personal or slanderous, or I will delete your posts.
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I did not make it personal. You might want to watch making things personal yourself. If you delete my posts I will contact Ron. I have not, nor will not mention anyone. In this case I was speaking generally.
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I did not make it personal. You might want to watch making things personal yourself. If you delete my posts I will contact Ron. I have not, nor will not mention anyone. In this case I was speaking generally.
You must think we are totally stupid here Rhino. Due to you putting your personal "experiences" out on the board, people do realize when you make references such as the above...you are trying to get your digs in (under the radar).
Again, heed my warning here. It is in my authority to keep the "girls" of this board (as it is a girls forum) safe from negative attacks (Please see the forum rules) and I WILL delete ANY post I find to be a personal attack. You are more than welcome to go and tell to Ron.
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and sending me PM's such as this one will get your ass banned from this forum (not to mention I don't think Ron will like you threatening his moderators in such a way either "Buzz-maker") :
I'm only gonna tell you once to back the fuck off me. If you don't I'm gonna call Ron. (ou can't censor me because of your personal feelings twords me. Ron likes me and I create a lot of buzz....Don't fucking push it. leave it alone.
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I suggest you have a discussion with ron....and I stand by my pm...you obviously have a personal issue with me and I have brought this to his attention....you and he need to work this out.
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also, you think I care about being banned? I told you to back off me, was not a threat.....I want to see you ban me.
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you laura are attacking me personally. I don't apreciate it. My reference was general except to you......
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I suggest you have a discussion with ron....and I stand by my pm...you obviously have a personal issue with me and I have brought this to his attention....you and he need to work this out.
I don't have anything to discuss with Ron. It seems you are the one with the problem here in the "girls" forum as you did state: "If you delete my posts I will contact Ron" ;)
also, you think I care about being banned? I told you to back off me, was not a threat.....I want to see you ban me.
I'm not going to make this into a debate for you Jack. I didn't alter or delete your prior posts regarding "cheating". I simply warned you to stick to topic and not make it "personal" or I'd delete it. You know the rules of this forum, you agreed to them, did you not? All you have to say is "don't worry, I'm not" and leave it alone. Instead you come back with PM threats and verbal abuse and say that I'm attacking you.
One more time, leave it alone and stick to the topics of the board.
Thank you.
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okay fine....no problem. can we please stop fighting now? I really don't like it. I'm sorry I said anything mean...especially about your looks......enough already, okay?
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okay fine....no problem. can we please stop fighting now? I really don't like it. I'm sorry I said anything mean...especially about your looks......enough already, okay?
>:( you said something about my looks?
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okay fine....no problem. can we please stop fighting now? I really don't like it. I'm sorry I said anything mean...especially about your looks......enough already, okay?
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can we just forget it..this thing has gottten way out of control and I don't like being this ugly with anyone.....
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I'm fat there! :D lmao
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If a guy fondles your wife and she responds then it's just as much her fault as it is the homewreckers. Of course the homewrecker deserves a bullet.. :-X
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do you guys ever feel that God or whoever is in charge of the universe is using the getbig to speak to you? i swear it's like something's been reading my mind the last couple of days . . .
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do you guys ever feel that God or whoever is in charge of the universe is using the getbig to speak to you? i swear it's like something's been reading my mind the last couple of days . . .
Olanxapine and Haldol can help.
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do they kill the urge to diddle your married ex? funny thing is I actually arranged to meet her on saturday, and then I come on here and people have been talking about married women constantly . . . in fact, i think even you got into the act.
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do they kill the urge to diddle your married ex? funny thing is I actually arranged to meet her on saturday, and then I come on here and people have been talking about married women constantly . . . in fact, i think even you got into the act.
Married ex? -- Double or triple the standard dose. Dont worry, they do it at the psych ward at VA hosp all the time.
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posts like yours are exactly what i'm talking about. If I'd turned on Focus on the Family instead, I don't think I could have found people more eager to rail against the breaking of the seventh commandment.
Someone was posting about dudes being willing to kill other dudes for sleeping w their wives. since one of the few things I know about her hubby is that he can shoot, it was somewhat sobering . . .
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quit yalls fighting guys..we ARE ALL damaged in 1 way or another..hense we congregate here....for some bilittled comfort..
lets just be.. :)
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who's fighting, mahatma? i thought me and trab were just bantering . . . although I will say that getbig's put something of a damper on my weekend plans.
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although I will say that getbig's put something of a damper on my weekend plans.
well then u were fighting if it effects you THAT bad mon ami..
let it be..my great gramma said something to me once..yeah i had the honour of seeing her alive..and eons later i heed her advice " be the leaf"
what she meant ws.."dont be the wind"...just go with the flow.. :)
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do you guys ever feel that God or whoever is in charge of the universe
people can be mean and horrid if they believe in an after life mon ami..
THIS IS IT (or so i believe)...might as well make it good aye! 8)
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Confidence is a warm smile, ...arrogance is a twisted smirk.
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arrogance is a twisted smirk.
actually that could be confidence too
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actually that could be confidence too
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If it's all confidence, the smirk doesn't come across as a smirk, just a warm confident smile.
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sometimes it's fun to smirk.
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sometimes it's fun to smirk.
And the really skillful can smirk and have it interpreted as confidence.
The putzes <sp?> will always read as arrogant.
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Confidence is a warm smile, ...arrogance is a twisted smirk.
arrogant guys r insecure..its their security blanket..
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And the really skillful can smirk and have it interpreted as confidence.
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i remember once a girl bumped into me at a bar and said "excuse me"
i smirked and said "ok you're excused"
she liked it!
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i remember once a girl bumped into me at a bar and said "excuse me"
i smirked and said "ok you're excused"
she liked it!
How do you know she liked it?
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I it okay to sport cold expressions and look indifferent?
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How do you know she liked it?
cause then we laughed about it..we sat down..have a convo n a drink....she ws interested but i has a GF so i didn't persue it..
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I it okay to sport cold expressions and look indifferent?
Only if you live on the upper east side. And you aren't happy with your 5-hour dry cleaning experience. Otherwise... no. :)
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Only if you live on the upper east side. And you aren't happy with your 5-hour dry cleaning experience. Otherwise... no. :)
deedles pm me your # les chat!
:)
i;m curious as to what u r like..
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o..i'm well aware tha this has absolutely no chance of working ;D
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Only if you live on the upper east side. And you aren't happy with your 5-hour dry cleaning experience. Otherwise... no. :)
I tend to like people from the city better anyways.. :o
I need a change of atmosphere and with it will come different women. I was in the city last week and got a lot of stares from mostly men.. I guess they dig me in aviators. :-\
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If it's all confidence, the smirk doesn't come across as a smirk, just a warm confident smile.
why can't a confident guy smirk?
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Confident guy can do what he like..
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Confident guy can do what he like..
exactly it is ridiculous to think that a confident guy doesn't smirk or isn't the least bit arrogant
to the average girl if they are already attracted to a guy he is confident no matter what
if they don't like him he is arrogant and insecure ::)
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exactly it is ridiculous to think that a confident guy doesn't smirk or isn't the least bit arrogant
to the average girl if they are already attracted to a guy he is confident no matter what
if they don't like him he is arrogant and insecure ::)
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One of the best ways to get in a new girls pants is shared smirk on some dumbass thing that goes down and
get her talking :P.... This works good even if ya dont speak much or the same language(s).
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why can't a confident guy smirk?
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I didn't say confident guys can't smirk, ...they do it all the time.
What I'm saying is that the smirk will come across as a warm smile.