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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on September 14, 2013, 01:21:43 PM
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This kid...
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This kid...
Whats next and why continue with this?
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That camera man is a real asshole ;D
Exploiting this kid and laughing at him for his own enjoyment
TA or Tbombz should train him
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This kid...
The real problem is with your approach. First off, you are not honest with him or "mean" enough to him. I also think you and PJ don`t know what you are doing at all and only are filling his delusions with the shitty diet you have given him. He can eat whatever he wants, 2000 calories and in time he will be ripped. You don`t need some detox bullshit and whatever disgusting nonsense you were doing in the first place. Why would anyone want to do that anyways?
Also, I don`t think you and PJ realize just how much weight he really needs to lose. Why would you even think he would be ripped at 170-175 lbs? You have been using steroids for so long that you have no basis in reality when it comes to someone not mega dosing.
Jason is short and needs to lose A LOT of weight. Your estimate is total shit. Everything you and PJ have done with him has been total shit. I hope this helps.
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It would be wise to cut your losses and run. How much is 1200 extra youtube views every 3 months of people just wanting to laugh at Jason worth it to you?
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singerman, are you partners with pj braun?
if so, youre some despicable piece of shit
how dare you take advantage of retarded kid?
obama would say "crossing the red line"
I wouldn`t say they are taking advantage of Jason at all. In fact, I would say Jason is taking advantage of them. If anyone has benefited its been Jason. PJ and Aaron have not. Jason is the winner here. He has done what he has wanted, not took anything they said seriously and used them for free groceries, supplements and whatever else they gave him.
Jason wins.
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I've been a supporter of Jason, but he doesn't have the funds needed to make the dream happen.
His reps are short, he doesn't go beyond failure, he doesn't understand basic and intermediate movements, his strength hasn't improved....his body is essentially the same.....his technique is essentially the same.....everything is essentially the same LOL.
From the beginning of his online journey until today he looks only slightly improved.
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I've been a supporter of Jason, but he doesn't have the funds needed to make the dream happen.
His reps are short, he doesn't go beyond failure, he doesn't understand basic and intermediate movements.
From the beginning of his online journey until today he looks only slightly improved.
He is just overeating is all. His training is fine. He has all the muscle he is going to get anyways unless PJ and Aaron give him steroids or steroids cloaked in "supplements". More training or "better" training is not going to do anything or make one bit of difference. He is maxxed out.
The dieting approaches are too restrictive for him and they do not have to be so. He believes that dogma and so do his "handlers". They are no good for him. He just needs to eat around 1800-2000 calories a day of whatever he wants and in time he will be ripped. Makes no difference what he eats. These restrictive diets are killing him. The best thing they could do is put him on an All Mcdonalds dollar menu diet or something like that where his only choices will come to that caloric range. He has to have pre-packaged or labeled food as he has no idea how to weigh or measure food.
He would do better if he just bought TV dinners and added them up to 1800-2000 calories each day.
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well hes natural what you expect.
the only thing he could do is seriously diet down as natty, all and any size to come with be mostly fat and water.
he could diet down properly and look ok.
but this is it, thats as far as muscle gains will go, he trains ok, eats too much, this is all the msucle a natty will gain ,more or less.
btw hes not tiny or anything he just looks shit bc hes sooo god damned fat, if he were lean, hed have some decent size on him, no joke
Exactly.
Calorie Restriction is all he needs. Arron and PJ should just find 4 or 5 different TV microwave dinners that add up to around 2000 calories and tell him to make 3-4 a day (whatever gets him to around 2000) and nothing else.
That would work very well and it would be so simple for him to follow. I could have him ripped in no time and he wouldn`t even have to think about it. The idiot could just microwave his 3-4 TV dinners a day, every day and be done with it.
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Genova appears to be autistic or possessing a very low IQ. No matter how genuine Singerman and Braun may be in helping Jason, and I believe they really are trying to help him, he will always sabotage himself.
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All he needs is rice and tuna , very affordable.
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All he needs is rice and tuna , very affordable.
Thats not going to work. He will get bored of that and it will be awful for him and hard to follow. Also, he has no idea how to measure rice or cook it. He will overeat that for sure.
The TV dinners are better and will work for him. He can`t over eat with this approach and he doesn`t have to measure anything which is something he has no clue how to do.
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Thats not going to work. He will get bored of that and it will be awful for him and hard to follow. Also, he has no idea how to measure rice or cook it. He will overeat that for sure.
The TV dinners are better and will work for him. He can`t over eat with this approach and he doesn`t have to measure anything which is something he has no clue how to do.
Someone said Jason didn't have the funds .
Adonis can you make a diet for my wife and I , but please don't screw me like the last time.
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All he needs is rice and tuna , very affordable.
Ok fine he could do that sure, but he doesn't have the mental toughness for that. Competitors do....Jason is no competitor though. I hate to say it, but times up. He's a youtube phenom and his star ain't shinin so bright no mo.
The kid loves the gym. He loves to lift weights, but he only does the same movements over and over and over.
What about his back? I've never seen a brutal day of heavy bent overs, deads, tbars, pulldowns, etc.....
Yes he has decent legs for a normal gym guy, but I don't recall a leg day in which he stumbles to his car afterwards or collapses on the gym floor or vomits after squats, hacks, leg presses, etc....maybe he has, I don't know but I doubt it.
Would bb drugs help his cause? For sure and if he wants to get onstage he'll have to consider it.
I do agree with TA that his restrictive diet isn't gonna work for him...he needs a change up.
I haven't seen his strength improve.....natural or juiced his strength could increase dramatically. His size could still improve naturally. Do I believe there's a natural peak? A cap? Yes. But he ain't hit it yet LOL.
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Someone said Jason didn't have the funds .
Adonis can you make a diet for my wife and I , but please don't screw me like the last time.
He may not have the funds for the bullshit "bodybuilding" diet, but he can certainly buy 4 99 cent Microwave dinners a day.
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Someone said Jason didn't have the funds .
Adonis can you make a diet for my wife and I , but please don't screw me like the last time.
I made a comment about the funds, but that was more about the ability to purchase bb drugs. I'm not suggesting he do that, but I can promise the other fellas on stage are using something LOL.
I don't know, I think I'm just frustrated after watching him for a few years LOL. Like others I'd like to help him, but I'm no expert. At the very least I know I could help him put size on his shoulder and arms LOL!!
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I made a comment about the funds, but that was more about the ability to purchase bb drugs. I'm not suggesting he do that, but I can promise the other fellas on stage are using something LOL.
I don`t think that is a good idea for Jason at all. There is no way he could be capable of understanding how to take those kind of drugs.
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I made a comment about the funds, but that was more about the ability to purchase bb drugs. I'm not suggesting he do that, but I can promise the other fellas on stage are using something LOL.
I got you
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I don`t think that is a good idea for Jason at all. There is no way he could be capable of understanding how to take those kind of drugs.
Oh I agree with you 100%! At this point I just want the kid to make some progress.
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Severe Mental problems.
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Severe Mental problems.
At the very least his attention span is terrible....they've demonstrated that on camera. When Jason decides he's uninterested or doesn't agree with the person talking the conversation is over and you could be mid sentence with him LOL.
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I think TA is correct when he says someone needs to get real with him and be a bit brutal. Sometimes feelings gotta get hurt before someone snaps out of a rut.
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I have seen this happen a million times.
Eating and training like a real bodybuilder without doing real bodybuilder doses always ends in tears.
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Oh no.... I can't even watch it...
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singerman, are you partners with pj braun?
if so, youre some despicable piece of shit
how dare you take advantage of retarded kid?
obama would say "crossing the red line"
You replied to that one lady as "fat4aprincess" instead of "fit"!!!
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I wouldn`t say they are taking advantage of Jason at all. In fact, I would say Jason is taking advantage of them. If anyone has benefited its been Jason. PJ and Aaron have not. Jason is the winner here. He has done what he has wanted, not took anything they said seriously and used them for free groceries, supplements and whatever else they gave him.
Jason wins.
Tis.
Even though he does not have the build of a bodybuilder(and most likely never will), he def plays the part of a mooching bodybuilder vey well
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He may not have the funds for the bullshit "bodybuilding" diet, but he can certainly buy 4 99 cent Microwave dinners a day.
It doesn't matter what diet you gave him. When he gets hungry, he eats. That isn't going to change for all the microwave dinners in the world
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Does he follow what anybody saids or is he too arrogant and does things his way?
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it s getting embarrassing as the dude is openly making fun of him now. Seriously, what is this autistic dude's family thinking/doing? How can they let that shit happen? It's pure sadism at this point. Look at how they re insulting each others...I mean, how singerwoman and braun even dare to blatantly make fun of an autistic kid on video while fearing absolutely no backfire? they must know things we dont know, they must know jason's family doesnt give a fuck about him and that they can destroy his image online in total impunity.
As to know who is "winning" ... Nobody is winning.
I doubt jason even understands, realize, visualize what is going on, where he came from or where he s heading for that matter. He s just standing there, having no clue what's going on, doing what some random people coming out of nowhere tell him to do, and content with it as all he crave for is bonding/attention/attachment from other people. Whatever the nature of the attention. He's living the life, he s finally existing.
What is sad is that soon he ll be back to his anonymous status and this is when he ll really suffer. That's probably why his family let all of this happen, because they know he s a virgin mentally challenged kid who nobody will ever love or want to live with. Maybe he ll find himself a female equivalent, some slightly autistic fat, short woman. I wonder if they can produce a normal offspring, or if it's genetical. God knows what his parents did to him for him to end that way.
The whole thing is sad, and everyone is trying to make them look good using that kid, the steroid richard dude, a complete loser, pretending to be a caring fatherfigure, in fact just an asshole looking for internet fame, singerman and braun are just trying to sell their crap using him, the whole thing has reached a new level of depravity.
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I have seen this happen a million times.
Eating and training like a real bodybuilder without doing real bodybuilder doses always ends in tears.
I still empathize when people hit this point. I see so many kids at the gym training balls to the wall, looking at their phones between exercises and watching an Animal Pak ad or some bozo like Layne Norton to get that second wind. They plug in the hours, they eat their oatmeal and chicken breast, slam dozens of protein shakes and just get soggy! You can tell they're training with as much dedication as possible, but the missing equation is the gear!!!!
They could still look pretty damn good as a natural if they trained and ate in alignment with what their body can handle. But eating chicken, steak and sweat potatoes 6 times a day without gear is just going to get you fat.
I couldn't watch that video of Jason. He looks crushed. Everyone's feeding this poor kid's delusions and he doesn't have the mental capacity to turn the tables. Poor kid. :-\
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I still empathize when people hit this point. I see so many kids at the gym training balls to the wall, looking at their phones between exercises and watching an Animal Pak ad or some bozo like Layne Norton to get that second wind. They plug in the hours, they eat their oatmeal and chicken breast, slam dozens of protein shakes and just get soggy! You can tell they're training with as much dedication as possible, but the missing equation is the gear!!!!
They could still look pretty damn good as a natural if they trained and ate in alignment with what their body can handle. But eating chicken, steak and sweat potatoes 6 times a day without gear is just going to get you fat.
I couldn't watch that video of Jason. He looks crushed. Everyone's feeding this poor kid's delusions and he doesn't have the mental capacity to turn the tables. Poor kid. :-\
Exactly... Living the life is only fun if you are growing like a weed.
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looks like a fucking retard and an asshole to boot, I don't feel bad for him at all he is a lazy piece of shit end of the story
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Who still watches this retarded kids videos? The original ten minute shorts were a using but when the novelty factor wears off who is sitting through a daily thirty minute dose of autism? Surely no ones job can be that boring...
Gal, this kid has posted pics of his aas stash in the past, he's technically not natural and I'm sure the chuckle brothers planned to feed him Oral's to make their work with him look more impressive
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oh fuck, then its kinda hopeless case, if the guy doesnt get his diet straight,theres no hope.
i will contact him,im trying really hard ;D
I bet someone sold him a bunch of bunk gear just for the lols.
Man that fuckwit camera guy needs an ass kicking bigtime.
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uberman is a very intelligent fella, i'm impressed
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uberman is a very intelligent fella, i'm impressed
Seems ok he can type 96 words in a minute.
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The bottom line is he can't be helped. No use giving him advice. If he hasn't gotten his abs cut in 4 years of trying it's never going to happen.
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kid cannot follow a diet. his mind can't overcome the cravings. I'm actually surprised he even has a drivinglicense.
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Such a sad life. Wasting years and years of his life in the weight room without any visible results.
PJ and Slingearman are assholes for not telling the kid that it takes tons of drugs to look remotely like a BB.
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This guy is younger and not training as long as Genova :D :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=480053.0;attach=519049;image)
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well hes natural what you expect.
the only thing he could do is seriously diet down as natty, all and any size to come with be mostly fat and water.
he could diet down properly and look ok.
but this is it, thats as far as muscle gains will go, he trains ok, eats too much, this is all the msucle a natty will gain ,more or less.
btw hes not tiny or anything he just looks shit bc hes sooo god damned fat, if he were lean, hed have some decent size on him, no joke
Gal...
He's takes that SuperDMZ stuff and Halo, so he's not natural. (He just doenst take the good stuff)...
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This guy is younger and not training as long as Genova :D :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=480053.0;attach=519049;image)
why not put some work in on the calves?? seems to have long full insertions just underdeveloped..
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He's pretty much looked the same way for as long as I can remember. He needs to get consistent and get on some real cycles instead of playing around with prohormones and legal designers.
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Genova is possibly autistic. He has a sub 85 IQ.
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how do you look?
Like the guy your wife thinks about while she has to have sex with you.
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singerman, are you partners with pj braun?
if so, youre some despicable piece of shit
how dare you take advantage of retarded kid?
obama would say "crossing the red line"
;D ;D ;D
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I don't understand the entire Jason Genova phenomenon.
I am inclined to believe that the young man probably falls within the spectrum of autism and/or possibly has some other form of impaired cognitive function.
Why make these videos that are clearly meant to mock the kid? (The camera man is clearly a piece of shit)
If someone wants to help this young man achieve his bodybuilding goals, why not start by being honest with him? Explain to him that the look the "pros" have is only attainable by way of drugs (Testosterone, Growth Hormone, Insulin, diuretics etc..... and heavy dosages of each). Provide him with a diet that is conducive to his needs, mostly fat reduction, while maintaining muscle mass. Teach him the best types of exercises in order to build muscle and show him how to employ proper form and paced reps.
If that's not being done, all else simply appears as a group of guys mocking a mentally disabled young man that has blindly placed his trust in the hands of strangers.
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Everybody here is talking shit, none of you have a clue. First off Jason IS NOT natural, he doesn't even claim to be he makes seveal references to being on/off "skittles/candy/juice". I tried to help Jason before and we spoke at length. As pj or Aaron will attest to, he is IMPOSSIBLE to help. He doesn't even want it, I've cut my ties with him and don't watch his videos anymore. After his ridiculous showing at his last contest I offered to help him for free(not for any personal gain whatsoever) he just said something literally like "no I hav new coath I am lose moor wait" . I offered to help him as I thought he had passion. In truth all he has is asbergers, he lives in a fantasy world and has been told countless times by people the correct way to train and eat but he doesn't want to know. Also Andrew is a decent guy and Jason's only friend, he doesn't mock him. Should you hate special Olympic competitors and the camera man, or the people that laugh at them? Who is wrong? The people that mock obviously. Jason is a retard doing his thing, let him be. He is in his late 20s bare in mind. He is mildly mentally retarded but not physically , he could have improved greatly with pjs help or mine but that doesn't interest him. He just likes to make videos and lives in a fantasy.
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Everybody here is talking shit, none of you have a clue.
I am glad that you've joined the conversation in order to shed some light on Jason's current situation. Some of us are truly unaware of his problems or reasons for shortcomings in the world of bodybuilding.
In truth all he has is asbergers
But wait a minute, how can he have Asperger's syndrome, but also be mentally retarded? This is what you wrote towards the end of your post:
He is mildly mentally retarded but not physically
So, which one is it?
I've always understood mental retardation as meaning that an individual has compromised intellectual capacities that can be quantitated and categorized by various measures (For instance, an IQ of less than 70, more often 50 or below, is usually a marker for mental retardation).
Whereas Asperger's syndrome is a psychological (possibly also biological) disorder that affects a person's ability to socialize and communicate effectively with others, thereby rendering the individual's ability to form relationships and/or relate. In contrast to mental retardation, individuals with asperger's typically have a normal IQ and some even have high IQ's.
So, which one is it? Is he mentally retarded or does he have Asperger's syndrome? Help us out here, as some of us are really clueless regarding his problems and mental condition.
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The guy behind the camera is bullying him at this point. He sure sounds like an expert, i'd like to see what that POS looks like.
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people with autism are usually just bad with social interaction and abstract things but very skilled at their special intrest. Genova is not good at what he does. so he's probably just behind or slightly retarded. but what do I know and why do I even care...
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I meant autism not asbergers sorry.
Sorry if my wall of text hurt your eyes Tampaxmachine
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you have to train twice a day and diet if your natural to get ripped eating chicken breasts and protien shakes, weed and caffiene helps, you can binge every few days too
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Also, the camera man is a prick.
He is telling Jason, as well as the viewers that Jason is essentially "stupid".
Forward the video to the 12:00 mark and listen in until the 12:22 mark.
The camera man states that, "another thing Jason needs to work on, even though it isn't his fault, is his ability to retain information". In other words, he is saying that Jason is stupid and needs to work on changing this.
Deductive reasoning allows us to reach this conclusion by noting that stupid means:
stu·pid adjective \ˈstü-pəd, ˈstyü-\
: not intelligent : having or showing a lack of ability to learn and understand things.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid?show=0&t=1379253425 (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid?show=0&t=1379253425)
In turn, the definition of learn is:
learn verb \ˈlərn\
: to cause (something) to be in your memory by studying it
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/learn (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/learn)
So, if to retain information is synonymous with learning and stupid is synonymous with having an inability to learn, then the camera man's comment at the 12:00 mark regarding Jason's need to improve his ability (or inability) to retain information is clearly a tongue-in-cheek way of stating that Jason is a stupid fucking idiot.
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
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Also, the camera man is a prick.
He is telling Jason, as well as the viewers that Jason is essentially "stupid".
Forward the video to the 12:00 mark and listen in until the 12:22 mark.
The camera man states that, "another thing Jason needs to work on, even though it isn't his fault, is his ability to retain information". In other words, he is saying that Jason is stupid and needs to work on changing this.
Deductive reasoning allows us to reach this conclusion by noting that stupid means:
stu·pid adjective \ˈstü-pəd, ˈstyü-\
: not intelligent : having or showing a lack of ability to learn and understand things.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid?show=0&t=1379253425 (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid?show=0&t=1379253425)
In turn, the definition of learn is:
learn verb \ˈlərn\
: to cause (something) to be in your memory by studying it
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/learn (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/learn)
So, if to retain information is synonymous with learning and stupid is synonymous with having an inability to learn, then the camera man's comment at the 12:00 mark regarding Jason's need to improve his ability (or inability) to retain information is clearly a tongue-in-cheek way of stating that Jason is a stupid fucking idiot.
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
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the camera man is the ultimate weasal, fagget shmoe , his only purpose in life is critiquing others, no doubt that he posts here. he has no personal passions only to try and mold others for what he lacks himself, really weird guy closet gay
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the camera man is the ultimate weasal, fagget shmoe , his only purpose in life is critiquing others, no doubt that he posts here. he has no personal passions only to try and mold others for what he lacks himself, really weird guy closet gay
I agree.
If Jason were to ask for guidance from a true master of bodybuilding the likes of the Falcon, he would attain epic leans, enlightenment and long life, but instead he hangs out with mere naysayers.
Message to Jason, seek out the Falcon and your goals shall be attained....
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I was laughing thru this whole thing. Gal were you on something?
"A call from earth, from reality."
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Everybody here is talking shit, none of you have a clue. First off Jason IS NOT natural, he doesn't even claim to be he makes seveal references to being on/off "skittles/candy/juice". I tried to help Jason before and we spoke at length. As pj or Aaron will attest to, he is IMPOSSIBLE to help. He doesn't even want it, I've cut my ties with him and don't watch his videos anymore. After his ridiculous showing at his last contest I offered to help him for free(not for any personal gain whatsoever) he just said something literally like "no I hav new coath I am lose moor wait" . I offered to help him as I thought he had passion. In truth all he has is asbergers, he lives in a fantasy world and has been told countless times by people the correct way to train and eat but he doesn't want to know. Also Andrew is a decent guy and Jason's only friend, he doesn't mock him. Should you hate special Olympic competitors and the camera man, or the people that laugh at them? Who is wrong? The people that mock obviously. Jason is a retard doing his thing, let him be. He is in his late 20s bare in mind. He is mildly mentally retarded but not physically , he could have improved greatly with pjs help or mine but that doesn't interest him. He just likes to make videos and lives in a fantasy.
I am sure you are probably right, but your post is enough of a mess to question your sanity.
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how comes all the socalled helpers mock him.
i could fix him and explain him the things within 20minutes.
without laughing at!
How the fuck can you fix him? It's obvious he doesn't listen due to his mental limitations from whatever he has! Aaron, you and PJ just need to give up and wash your hands of the kid!
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How the fuck can you fix him? It's obvious he doesn't listen due to his mental limitations from whatever he has! Aaron, you and PJ just need to give up and wash your hands of the kid!
Easy to fix him, keep it simple
He can only eat two pounds of chicken a day.
Who hard can that be to remember?
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the camera man is the ultimate weasal, fagget shmoe , his only purpose in life is critiquing others, no doubt that he posts here. he has no personal passions only to try and mold others for what he lacks himself, really weird guy closet gay
SPOT FUCKING ON. your posts are usually fucking stupid as shit with all the clay eating, ufo bullshit but this one is a fucken ringer.
cameraman looks like a sack of shit no doubt.
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SPOT FUCKING ON. your posts are usually fucking stupid as shit with all the clay eating, ufo bullshit but this one is a fucken ringer.
cameraman looks like a sack of shit no doubt.
It was probably Pumpster now he is asleep.
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looks like a fucking retard and an asshole to boot, I don't feel bad for him at all he is a lazy piece of shit end of the story
Interesting points. ;D
I'm just not sure if this kid is stupid, lazy or straight up retard.
Perhaps he is hustling all of US??? Kind of like Kevin Spacey in the film, The Ususal Suspects.Playing the poor, simple minded gimp when in reality he's a criminal mastermind.
Looks like he conned those dudes out of free grub and supplements....or maybe he is a lazy retarded asshole ;)
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Interesting points. ;D
I'm just not sure if this kid is stupid, lazy or straight up retard.
Perhaps he is hustling all of US??? Kind of like Kevin Spacey in the film, The Ususal Suspects.Playing the poor, simple minded gimp when in reality he's a criminal mastermind.
Looks like he conned those dudes out of free grub and supplements....or maybe he is a lazy retarded asshole ;)
I thought the same thing! Enjoys his internet fame and free supplements!
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Perhaps he is hustling all of US??? Kind of like Kevin Spacey in the film, The Ususal Suspects.Playing the poor, simple minded gimp when in reality he's a criminal mastermind.
;D
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He's nearly thirty.
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how comes all the socalled helpers mock him.
i could fix him and explain him the things within 20minutes.
without laughing at him.
The dark Spaniard Lord would convince himself that either you don't know what you are talking about or would listen to you and do the opposite of what you say, which is what HE wants to do. So then, you have to tell him to do that opposite of what you told him to do, which in his mind is what he wants to do. But Lo and behold, he still does what he wants to do. So then, you tell him to do the opposite of the opposite of what you originally told him to do. And then, you say, "scratch that, anytime you feel like doing what you want to do, which is contrary to what I told you to do originally, do the opposite..."
Thus frustrating the both of you...and then he merrily goes on his way.
Basically, Genova could eff up a wet dream, and you can't eff that up.
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Just a kid trying to be something I feel sorry for him. :'( It probably will not end up good. Someone is apparently funding his gyms fees and such. Again I ask people who want to train what is your goal most have no answer.
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ia sk them too, they all say something like me is the goal ;D
then some permafatsos say theyre going for the amateru worlds haha.by the time theyre shredded,if ever, whats left, something my size.
oh well most aspire at the beginning to something like on cover of mesnhealth.
then, some aspire to something like on cover of flex.haha
then theres the inbetweeners who aspire to something like on the cover of muscle and fitness(full roided out to the gils naturals)but they never seem to amass enough size before they decide to get cut.i tell them,"man, you got plenty of size(and i mean it),diet down now,its gonna look very good", but nah, never happens.
the only ones who actualy diet down are competitors and some few-i can proudly say that-were moivated by me to do so
Genes is the rule Gal, you know this. The deal is ok everyone wants to be Mr O but how many have compared to how many tried. Do you smoke the menthol or just regular cigs?
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all about genetics. Gal will never have my chest and midsection and I will never have his accent. such is life. :D
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yeah, bouncer will never have my guns, face, and sledgehammer between legs ;D
sledgehammer competition if your ever in the windy city my man! :D :D
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Easy to fix him, keep it simple
He can only eat two pounds of chicken a day.
Who hard can that be to remember?
Again, he does not know how to measure or weigh food. The best diet for him is 3-4 microwave dinners a day and nothing else. He would like something like that and it would be easy for him.
Every other approach will fail. "Clean Eating", "bodybuilding diet" are pointless as you know, so why not give him something he can actually do?
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What most of you do not understand is that you have to cater and work around his mental issues. He has dyslexia and trouble with short term logical problems. He can and will retain information, but has trouble acting on that information. Telling him to eat X amount of Carbs or no carbs or X amount of protein is not going to work. Its not necessary to do those things anyways and for someone like him, it is difficult.
He has a good long term memory though and does like lists and does like repeating information once he knows it. Bridging the gap between short term and long term information storage is where the problem lies.
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both menthol and regulars.
yes, genes play very big role, and structure and muscle shape is god given, but! everyone can get shredded,everyone, and everyone will add some 20lbs of pure muscle on something banal lie hrt,if given enough time.shreded and 20lbs gain will most likely make most ppl look close to the best they could,and they will live(instead of needed new internal organs lol)
Gal knows his stuff, getting shredded is just starving and training. No rocket science now getting huge and ripped a different story or there would be 1000 Mr O's.
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What most of you do not understand is that you have to cater and work around his mental issues. He has dyslexia and trouble with short term logical problems. He can and will retain information, but has trouble acting on that information. Telling him to eat X amount of Carbs or no carbs or X amount of protein is not going to work. Its not necessary to do those things anyways and for someone like him, it is difficult.
He has a good long term memory though and does like lists and does like repeating information once he knows it. Bridging the gap between short term and long term information storage is where the problem lies.
this guy gets it, being part retarded himself. :)
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Nobody think he simply has shitty genetic for muscle AND for dieting.
He has been followed by many recognised guys, even a natural one who admirably justify his results with his hardcore training and optimised diet (but can't apply his knowledge for another person).
It can't be a problem of short-term or long term-memory, he seems to know what he has to take to build muscle (and fat) or lose fat, he should know what are the basic proportions of carbs, fat, and proteins a man of his size must take after 5 or 6 years of training.
People who follow him may be a little bit coward in rejecting the fault on him all the time, as if he applied the opposite of the prescribed program.
You can easily see he loses weight during his prep, but his loss principaly come from muscle mass, and that happens even with top pro-bodybuilders, so imaginge with the worst gifted person in the world.
Your program simply doesn't work and it's not the only one. If you were aware of his mental problems before preparing him, why didn't you take all the precautions to be sure he will follow your plan ?
I think you took all the precautions required, but as it's a total fail, now you blame him. Maybe you don't realize that without the supplements you use to get in shape, you can't transform a donkey to a horse.
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how comes all the socalled helpers mock him.
i could fix him and explain him the things within 20minutes.
without laughing at him.
I thought the same thing, try it yourself, he WILL NOT listen. I offered to help him privately and for free, no ill intentions (no schmomo)
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I am sure you are probably right, but your post is enough of a mess to question your sanity.
that is a reasonable statement ;D I typed iton my phone and could not see it properly!!
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Can Iron Mag sponsor this guy with a few new pairs of pants?
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Looks like he washed his one pair of pants before meeting Flex
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Hope Flex washed his hands after...
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Interesting points. ;D
I'm just not sure if this kid is stupid, lazy or straight up retard.
Perhaps he is hustling all of US??? Kind of like Kevin Spacey in the film, The Ususal Suspects.Playing the poor, simple minded gimp when in reality he's a criminal mastermind.
Looks like he conned those dudes out of free grub and supplements....or maybe he is a lazy retarded asshole ;)
I was thinking the same thing but more along the lines of the "Doofie" version from Scary Movie
This video shows all the uncanny faces and the real face of our subject in the end
Its a fucking con guys and girls
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This is PJ taking Jason out in the woods by the creek not too long from now
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Poor, goofy bastard.
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people should stop having expectations on him. I Think some people are being genuinely nice trying to help him but don't get disappointed if he doesn't make it. he's challenged. that's all there is to it. it's like trying to put a person with downs syndrome through highschool. extreme example of course but the reasoning is the same. it just doesn't work..
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he doesnt lose muscle, what he lost is just bloof,that was never muscle to begin with.
if shredded,a better built swimmer physique would be left.
I agree
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ppl have very very bad estimates as to how much weight will come of until one is shredded.
they grossly overestimate the amount of muscle they carry.
the truth is, most would look like twinks when shredded next to a fitness class competitor.fucking hell, many would look small next to a female! fitness class competitor.
when one has half inch of some bloof fat on arms or stomach, that so far out from shredded its not even funy.
then they come and say how they afraid of losing muscle mass(which they only imagine, it doesnt exist,never did),when their first and only concern should be losing weight,resp fat at any cost.
ppl are hillarious when it comes to this.
Agreed 100%
Goodrum is a good example
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He may not have the funds for the bullshit "bodybuilding" diet, but he can certainly buy 4 99 cent Microwave dinners a day.
LOL As funny as that sounds I agree. Need to keep it simple for him. Not making fun of him at all but he's not bright enough to count calories.
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jason doesnt train hard enough often enough, nutrition etc are not really the problem it's just that he simply doesnt train enough period. Now I dont know how he trains when he does, but he probably also train the wrong way.
I just dont understand how things went so far with this dude. I'm pretty sure it all started as a joke, the fist camaraman dude who made movies about him. He prolly wanted to make fun of him and become an internet star or something along those lines, then it derailed to the point we are now. Nobody really wants jason to be happy, everyone wants to use him for their own little fucked up interests. Fact is jason need a normal life , a gf, dont know if he s able to hold a job considering his handicap. Never, ever, was i able to watch one of these videos entirely, it felt so fucked up. Made no sense. Wasnt too sure if they were making fun of him or not. Now... it's obvious they all did. Just leave the dude alone if you cant help him. They re preying on him, as simple as that. He s probably more interested in finding genuine people instead of fake losers who mock him behind his back or in front of his face. Better be alone than having such "friends".
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How about someone guide him into another hobby, like model trains, or painting model planes?
RC planes? Or building tree houses, no scratch that, he may fall.
Or he could take up badminton...golf, fishing...nope, he may hook himself.
Cloud watching, and bird watching.
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How about someone guide him into another hobby, like model trains, or painting model planes?
RC planes? Or building tree houses, no scratch that, he may fall.
Or he could take up badminton...golf, fishing...nope, he may hook himself.
Cloud watching, and bird watching.
Why? He s doing allright by himself , if he kept training for years , if he had his diet in order, he would be healthier than 99% of people.
How did the whole thing start in the first place, the youtube vids, that's what I d like to understand.
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jason doesnt train hard enough often enough, nutrition etc are not really the problem it's just that he simply doesnt train enough period. Now I dont know how he trains when he does, but he probably also train the wrong way.
I just dont understand how things went so far with this dude. I'm pretty sure it all started as a joke, the fist camaraman dude who made movies about him. He prolly wanted to make fun of him and become an internet star or something along those lines, then it derailed to the point we are now. Nobody really wants jason to be happy, everyone wants to use him for their own little fucked up interests. Fact is jason need a normal life , a gf, dont know if he s able to hold a job considering his handicap. Never, ever, was i able to watch one of these videos entirely, it felt so fucked up. Just leave the dude alone if you cant help him. He s probably more interested in finding genuine people instead of fake losers who mock him behind his back or in front of his face. Better be alone than having such "friends".
It ain't the training, it's his diet. He is not putting on anymore muscle & that's a fact. He should pretty much stop lifting all together & put all that ADD determination into his diet IMO.
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How about someone guide him into another hobby, like model trains, or painting model planes?
RC planes? Or building tree houses, no scratch that, he may fall.
Or he could take up badminton...golf, fishing...nope, he may hook himself.
Cloud watching, and bird watching.
Just dangle some car keys in front of him. That should keep him busy most of the day.
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jason doesnt train hard enough often enough, nutrition etc are not really the problem it's just that he simply doesnt train enough period. Now I dont know how he trains when he does, but he probably also train the wrong way.
I just dont understand how things went so far with this dude. I'm pretty sure it all started as a joke, the fist camaraman dude who made movies about him. He prolly wanted to make fun of him and become an internet star or something along those lines, then it derailed to the point we are now. Nobody really wants jason to be happy, everyone wants to use him for their own little fucked up interests. Fact is jason need a normal life , a gf, dont know if he s able to hold a job considering his handicap. Never, ever, was i able to watch one of these videos entirely, it felt so fucked up. Made no sense. Wasnt too sure if they were making fun of him or not. Now... it's obvious they all did. Just leave the dude alone if you cant help him. They re preying on him, as simple as that. He s probably more interested in finding genuine people instead of fake losers who mock him behind his back or in front of his face. Better be alone than having such "friends".
His training is fine. Its like 4-5 days a week and he is able to bench 315 for reps, 90s or 100s for shoulder press and does have decent strength. Nothing really wrong with his training at all.
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Why? He s doing allright by himself , if he kept training for years , if he had his diet in order, he would be healthier than 99% of people.
How did the whole thing start in the first place, the youtube vids, that's what I d like to understand.
The cameraman and others kinda guide him away from harming himself. Ever see him squat, he puts on too much weight and quarter squats the weight...on a smith machine.
These are big ifs, and the fact is, if he didn't have guidance, he'd eat an economy pack of Skittles a day, and McDonald's chicken Mcnuggets, and 3 large fries....and protein powder, from 5 yrs ago.
He needs to be guided to something more creative, even painting. Or butterfly and insect collecting.
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It ain't the training, it's his diet. He is not putting on anymore muscle & that's a fact. He should pretty much stop lifting all together & put all that ADD determination into his diet IMO.
enough with the bullshits, it's not his diet ffs, he has no muscle mass because he trains like shit / not often enough. He has no muscles at all just like someone who simply doesnt train at all.
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enough with the bullshits, it's not his diet ffs, he has no muscle mass because he trains like shit / not often enough. He has no muscles at all just like someone who simply doesnt train at all.
He has got a lot of muscle mass under the fat, you can see it. More so than the average guy. I looked exactly the same 5 years ago until I fixed up my diet, then everything fell into place. Now I've got abs year round & I don't even have a gym membership.
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They just put this up.
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The cliche' "that dog won't hunt" fits perfectly.
Look, all these people have TRIED to help the dude. Maybe they had selfish motives, but they did TRY.
He nods his head, and yeah, yeah, yeah's them, pretends he is listening, and goes home and eats WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO.
Some peeps cannot be helped. You yell, ya joke, ya stay quiet, hell, even give them a proper beating.
NOTHING WORKS.
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The cliche' "that dog won't hunt" fits perfectly.
Look, all these people have TRIED to help the dude. Maybe they had selfish motives, but they did TRY.
He nods his head, and yeah, yeah, yeah's them, pretends he is listening, and goes home and eats WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO.
Some peeps cannot be helped. You yell, ya joke, ya stay quiet, hell, even give them a proper beating.
NOTHING WORKS.
The people who have tried to help him are all morons themselves. They still cling to their "bodybuilding diet" dogma bullshit. He can`t follow that. Its not possible.
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Agreed 100%
Goodrum is a good example
Don't even compare me to Jason Genova......we are nothing alike whatsoever because I personally knew my limitations in the competitive aspect and did it for fun and promotion rather than doing everything under the sun to get some shitty plastic trophy...although I have two nice heavy bronze trophies and a decent online business for my efforts,
Jason needs to come over to Anabolic Mayhem or Muscle Week and talk to some of the folks over there to set him straight...Lord knows that I tried...
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The people who have tried to help him are all morons themselves. They still cling to their "bodybuilding diet" dogma bullshit. He can`t follow that. Its not possible.
You can only help those who listen, TA. I'm dropping the fat every week keeping calories at a limit....even had a nice dish of Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream since I had about 400 calories left for the day
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Kid is still lifting the same weights he was years ago. He starts off workouts with shrugs. When that camera guy asks him what he's working out for the day Jason acts like he hasn't decided yet. He's doing a stupid bootcamp workout multiple times a week to get ready for a competition. ::)
Kid needs some help. He needs someone knowledgeable to tell him exactly what to do.
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Again, he does not know how to measure or weigh food. The best diet for him is 3-4 microwave dinners a day and nothing else. He would like something like that and it would be easy for him.
Every other approach will fail. "Clean Eating", "bodybuilding diet" are pointless as you know, so why not give him something he can actually do?
Not enough protein.
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Not enough protein.
Not true. Get out of here with that nonsense.
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Kid is still lifting the same weights he was years ago. He starts off workouts with shrugs. When that camera guy asks him what he's working out for the day Jason acts like he hasn't decided yet. He's doing a stupid bootcamp workout multiple times a week to get ready for a competition. ::)
Kid needs some help. He needs someone knowledgeable to tell him exactly what to do.
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There is nothing wrong at all with his training.
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Not true. Get out of here with that nonsense.
You suggest 3-4 microwave dinners to get ready for a competition while being overweight and way behind schedule? ::)
I suggest you actually check the nutritional labels of most of those dinners. The most common ones range from 15-25 grams of protein. Way too low for the task.
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A retard mind and horrible genetics and this guy is the result. Lets be real. He could diet his ass off and still look like shit. He was not meant to look good with his shirt off, this is the brutal truth.
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He wouldn't look terrible if he was ten percent, kid has a weird frame and his shoulders look messed up from his awful training.. Look how he holds himself with his arm all twisted in.. But remember he is legit room temp iq or lower, mentally handicapped ppl can't be expected to eat well, he probably steals candy from work and eats leftovers from the grocery store bakery everyday
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I actually don't think he has that bad of genetics structurally or muscularly. Obviously not good genetics but not that bad either. I think if he worked on his shoulders and back he would be decent. He has good wheels and forearms.
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They just put this up.
He actually looks better. Obviously started dieting way too late but his traps and shoulders are showing good.
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They just put this up.
Intervention required ASAP. These fuckwits posting videos of Jason need a serving. They should NOT be taking videos of him & posting them online. Clearly he has mental issues which they are exploiting.
On another note, did Singerman just give Jason Tren in this video?
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I'm sorry but this guy has to be physically retarded as well. I don't care how shit his diet it is, this is not the body of someone who even remotely lifts weights. Diet would take care of the body fat but for fuck sake look at the muscle structure. Something is retarded in the way his body responds. He lifts weights and something in his genetics says der herr i can count to potato.
no offense to any retards.
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You suggest 3-4 microwave dinners to get ready for a competition while being overweight and way behind schedule? ::)
I suggest you actually check the nutritional labels of most of those dinners. The most common ones range from 15-25 grams of protein. Way too low for the task.
So? Thats plenty.
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I hope he can get his diet in order eventually -- he'd look better (and bigger) with every pound he drops. But I think he's too obsessed with the scales rather than the mirror.
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If Jason is like me, he may need considerably less than 2kcal IF he's unprepared to burn some off in the gym.
..and doing side raises into machine shrugs pretty much makes it clear he's not going to be achieving much in the burn department.
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Goodrum getting offended at being compared to genova. Lol oh brother ::)
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So? Thats plenty.
In this case, I agree with TA. He isn't lacking muscularity for a local show, he needs to drop weight. The lean cuisine diet might just work for a few months.
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Genova started getting emotional/crying towards the end of the video, plus they edited out some of the video.
It is a passion for Jason, but he is failing to realize what the reality of it is all.
Why one of these guys in the video hasn't actually started training him once or twice a week, is mind boggling.
If they want results, and not only a product spot in his videos, they could put in a days work... Or only an hours work mind you.
Jason's weak point is his mind, not his body. It was far too evident in the boot camp video
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that people exploit this kid
is sickening
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that people exploit this kid
is sickening
It was a cheap, pathetic publicity stunt by Ironmaglabs. Very sad when your products and company cannot stand on it's own and has to reduce itself to cheap tricks to gain consumer attention.
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hahaha he got some trenbolone for him :D
too good to not to laugh instead of giving him this crap they should give him some real stuff then the results will come and he will be a lot more motivated would maybe stick to his diet
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So? Thats plenty.
Yeah, plenty for a swimmer.
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Yeah, plenty for a swimmer.
We aren't talking about a guy who's new to training and has no size. 3-4 months of lower protein and calories wouldn't kill his physique. What it might do is enable him to actually follow a diet.
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Goodrum getting offended at being compared to genova. Lol oh brother ::)
Genova beats Goodrum in the most muscular.
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We aren't talking about a guy who's new to training and has no size. 3-4 months of lower protein and calories wouldn't kill his physique. What it might do is enable him to actually follow a diet.
::) He has 7 weeks till the competition and he's way behind schedule.
Recommending 3-4 tv dinners is just plain retarded at this point.
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::) He has 7 weeks till the competition and he's way behind schedule.
Recommending 3-4 tv dinners is just plain retarded at this point.
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You suggest 3-4 microwave dinners to get ready for a competition while being overweight and way behind schedule? ::)
I suggest you actually check the nutritional labels of most of those dinners. The most common ones range from 15-25 grams of protein. Way too low for the task.
Adam/True Adonis.... Those microwave meals won't cut it? If they say 15-30 grams protein they really mean 12 grams? You know that?
Not to mention they are FILLED with nitrates and sodium??
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Adam/True Adonis.... Those microwave meals won't cut it? If they say 15-30 grams protein they really mean 12 grams? You know that?
Not to mention they are FILLED with nitrates and sodium??
Totally irrelevant for body composition.
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As a natural I'm not a believer in super high protein diets being necessary to build muscle. I know it's not necessary because I've bulked up to 230 lbs with 120-160 grams of protein on a poor mans diet. But we're talking about cutting here and with this particular case trying to maximize fatloss in a short amount of time while retaining as much muscle as possible. Recommending just 60 grams of protein in a 1500 calorie a day diet as Adam has is NOT the best way to go. Its so retarded it could only be construed as retarded or trolling.
Probably the best diet would be something like Lyle Mcdonalds RFL with less frequent refeeds.
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I agree with Adonis - if he literally only ate 4 mcDoubles a day, and did just 20-30 mins cardio after one of his workouts he would be in 10 x better shape than he is now in a couple of months.
Jason could never follow a RFL diet or anything that requires measuring anything more complex than a scoop of whey, the kid isn't all there.
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Once again, he doesn't have several months, he has 7 weeks. Adam is wrong.
And RFL doesn't require much measuring. Once you know how many grams of protein are in a bag of chicken tenderloins or tilapia from costco you're good to go. It's actually a very simple diet.
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Once again, he doesn't have several months, he has 7 weeks. Adam is wrong.
And RFL doesn't require much measuring. Once you know how many grams of protein are in a bag of chicken tenderloins or tilapia from costco you're good to go. It's actually a very simple diet.
Your proposed method would certainly be optimal. But it's entirely unrealistic for this kid.
The tv dinner approach would get him to slim down, and short of eating too many tv dinners, is entirely Genova-proof. Some progress is better than none.
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Adam/True Adonis.... Those microwave meals won't cut it? If they say 15-30 grams protein they really mean 12 grams? You know that?
Not to mention they are FILLED with nitrates and sodium??
This. The sodium level is off the charts for TV dinners. And if he has underlying issues like hypertension, it could be detrimental to his wellbeing.
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This. The sodium level is off the charts for TV dinners. And if he has underlying issues like hypertension, it could be detrimental to his wellbeing.
Totally irrelevant when enough water is consumed.
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Jason needs to take up a new hobby, like Parker said. Something involving aluminum foil perhaps.
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Totally irrelevant when enough water is consumed.
I'm not disagreeing with the prepackaged meals, but the fact is they are way too high in sodium and one should not have to drink unnaturally large amounts of water to compensate for this fact. In short term it's ok, but I wouldn't consume them long term.
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everyone is missing the point here.
There is one problem and one solution and no it is not dieting, it is a matter of perception.
Mistakes were made by everyone he has ever worked with including Aaron and pj.
He keeps failing and he keeps looking the same because he is trying to dial in at 170lb. The second he gets it through his head that he is only 145lb shredded on stage progress will be made.
How can someone get shredded if they think they need to be 170lb, it won't work, perception is everything.
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everyone is missing the point here.
There is one problem and one solution and no it is not dieting, it is a matter of perception.
Mistakes were made by everyone he has ever worked with including Aaron and pj.
He keeps failing and he keeps looking the same because he is trying to dial in at 170lb. The second he gets it through his head that he is only 145lb shredded on stage progress will be made.
How can someone get shredded if they think they need to be 170lb, it won't work, perception is everything.
You might have seen more of Jason, I only watch a few vids here and there - but I've never seen him mention a certain weight at all. All I've seen is him struggle to do what he has been told to do, over and over again.
I do not agree that people are missing the point. I think if anything, you are missing the point that everybody is hammering.
Jason is not doing anything he is told. That is the point.
Jason has been given a full training and diet program and we see him turn up and begin a workout doing side raises and then shrugs? No way PJ gave him that.
Forget the side debate from TA on training hard being necessary - if he isn't following the training, he isn't following the dieting, either. You either have to eat less food (which can be uncomfortable) or burn off extra (which can be uncomfortable). There is no way Jason is doing either on a consistent basis.
I think TA is along the right lines with his 4 microwave dinners theory. The prescribed diet has to be so simple, even a muppet could follow. The guy does not look to have it in him to train consistently so you cannot trust him to eat more and you basically cannot trust him to prepare meals /etc.
But even then, only his mind can stop him from snacking and does he have that in him? Maybe not
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Even if his diet consisted soley of microwaveable meals he would still foul it up. I don't believe he has the self control necessary to prevent himself from overeating.
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He wouldn't look terrible if he was ten percent, kid has a weird frame and his shoulders look messed up from his awful training.. Look how he holds himself with his arm all twisted in.. But remember he is legit room temp iq or lower, mentally handicapped ppl can't be expected to eat well, he probably steals candy from work and eats leftovers from the grocery store bakery everyday
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I also think he's selling the "supplements" Aaron and PJ give him to someone who PAYS for his McDonald's meals he admitted to cheating on his diet!!!
P.S. His training mostly consists of machine curls, and horrible technique on most anything else, he just doesn't listen...
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=491680.0
He could lose weight with this.
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You might have seen more of Jason, I only watch a few vids here and there - but I've never seen him mention a certain weight at all. All I've seen is him struggle to do what he has been told to do, over and over again.
I do not agree that people are missing the point. I think if anything, you are missing the point that everybody is hammering.
Jason is not doing anything he is told. That is the point.
Jason has been given a full training and diet program and we see him turn up and begin a workout doing side raises and then shrugs? No way PJ gave him that.
Forget the side debate from TA on training hard being necessary - if he isn't following the training, he isn't following the dieting, either. You either have to eat less food (which can be uncomfortable) or burn off extra (which can be uncomfortable). There is no way Jason is doing either on a consistent basis.
I think TA is along the right lines with his 4 microwave dinners theory. The prescribed diet has to be so simple, even a muppet could follow. The guy does not look to have it in him to train consistently so you cannot trust him to eat more and you basically cannot trust him to prepare meals /etc.
But even then, only his mind can stop him from snacking and does he have that in him? Maybe not
again totally missing the point
He has said a million times he is a middle weight, every expert that has helped him claimed they could dial him in at 170lb, in fact, someone said to drop to light weight and he freaked on them.
This is THE ONLY problem he has is perception of being a middle weight when he does not have enough muscle to do so, fix this problem and there is no problem
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again totally missing the point
He has said a million times he is a middle weight, every expert that has helped him claimed they could dial him in at 170lb, in fact, someone said to drop to light weight and he freaked on them.
This is THE ONLY problem he has is perception of being a middle weight when he does not have enough muscle to do so, fix this problem and there is no problem
true,to stand on stage as he does he looks like he walked off street and walked accidently on a bbing stage and said fuk it i'm ready.if he locked into a diet and follows it and gets onstage ripped at whatever say its 150 at least he would look like he belongs up there.otherwise he's a side show for entertainment.
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He just needs to eat around 1800-2000 calories a day of whatever he wants and in time he will be ripped. Makes no difference what he eats. These restrictive diets are killing him. The best thing they could do is put him on an All Mcdonalds dollar menu diet or something like that where his only choices will come to that caloric range. He has to have pre-packaged or labeled food as he has no idea how to weigh or measure food.
He would do better if he just bought TV dinners and added them up to 1800-2000 calories each day.
LMFAO
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true,to stand on stage as he does he looks like he walked off street and walked accidently on a bbing stage and said fuk it i'm ready.if he locked into a diet and follows it and gets onstage ripped at whatever say its 150 at least he would look like he belongs up there.otherwise he's a side show for entertainment.
see I keep hearing, ''well he does not listen'' and it is true but he does lose weight, he went from 220 to 180 so the diet is not the problem nor is the listening, he just needs to keep going to 150lb and he won't because he does not know this.
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LMFAO
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see I keep hearing, ''well he does not listen'' and it is true but he does lose weight, he went from 220 to 180 so the diet is not the problem nor is the listening, he just needs to keep going to 150lb and he won't because he does not know this.
I think you may be on to something here. He's been saying "freakin ripped at 170lbs" or "f'n shredded at 175lbs" for years now. He's close to 170 and that 10lb difference won't make him look like a competitor. I don't think mentally he can handle being 140-145lbs. Based on what I've seen that would be ridiculous to him....even if he was in contest shape at that weight. Then again, if a bodybuilder from a magazine told him he needed to get to that point to be competitive he might change his tune then.
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I think you may be on to something here. He's been saying "freakin ripped at 170lbs" or "f'n shredded at 175lbs" for years now. He's close to 170 and that 10lb difference won't make him look like a competitor. I don't think mentally he can handle being 140-145lbs. Based on what I've seen that would be ridiculous to him....even if he was in contest shape at that weight. Then again, if a bodybuilder from a magazine told him he needed to get to that point to be competitive he might change his tune then.
PJ AND SINGERMAN ARE AS CLOSE AS HE CAN GET.
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PJ AND SINGERMAN ARE AS CLOSE AS HE CAN GET.
No doubt, but one phone call or email from "Dorian 'Frickin' Yates" telling him 140lbs and he'd be a new man....OTH is right.
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PJ AND SINGERMAN ARE AS CLOSE AS HE CAN GET.
PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains. It happens to most steroid users. Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural. For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural. They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.
Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.
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PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains. It happens to most steroid users. Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural. For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural. They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.
Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.
they dont even know what they would look like without their steroid use anyway. They ve been addicted for decades. The drug use is so deeply part of who they are they couldnt imagine a future without injecting the shit in their bodies. Until one internal organ starts failing.
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PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains. It happens to most steroid users. Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural. For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural. They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.
Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.
Ah, hell, dude, Prince thought he couldn't go below the 230s at that bodyfat "no matter 'what'." (IIRC, he didn't think he'd ever weigh less than 250 sans training AND drugs. But I doubt even Prince Arrogance thought he'd be ripped at that weight.)
Of course, "what" came calling.
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PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains. It happens to most steroid users. Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural. For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural. They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.
Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.
without the insults of course, I actually have to agree, no juice to come in shredded at 170 is absolutely retarded and delusional,
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PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains. It happens to most steroid users. Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural. For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural. They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.
Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.
might be true but us steroid users look better then you! 8)
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might be true but us steroid users look better then you! 8)
It's all fun and games until you fry an internal organ or get other kind of health complications tho. But hey, if shortening your life expectancy is "winning" for you, whatever floats your boat.
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without the insults of course, I actually have to agree, no juice to come in shredded at 170 is absolutely retarded and delusional,
Absolutely, I competed at 170 at 5'9" on low doses of Deca and D'bol!
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Absolutely, I competed at 170 at 5'9" on low doses of Deca and D'bol!
170 may sound small but at shredded conditioning 170 is pretty jacked
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170 may sound small but at shredded conditioning 170 is pretty jacked
If I ever find my pics I will post!
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It's all fun and games until you fry an internal organ or get other kind of health complications tho. But hey, if shortening your life expectancy is "winning" for you, whatever floats your boat.
after age 50 everyone looks like shit. who gives a fuck. being 85 is something that isnt in the cards for me..
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If I ever find my pics I will post!
Yes do so, you look pretty compact, a good bodybuilding structure.
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the 170 shredded thing obviously depends on height. at 6 feet I would NOT look i ever lifted a weight in my life.
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PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains. It happens to most steroid users. Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural. For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural. They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.
Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.
I agree with you 100% on this. "MOST" steroid users have lost touch with reality. I see it time & time again when they go giving warped advice to naturals.
But I disagree with the TV dinner theory. Those TV dinners are just plain shit on a plate, don't tell me a calorie is a calorie either. I know better than that.
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But I disagree with the TV dinner theory. Those TV dinners are just plain shit on a plate, don't tell me a calorie is a calorie either. I know better than that.
exactly. adonis has a good head on his shoulders but he has his head up his ass when it comes to diet. just because something works does not mean it's the optimal approach.
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A retard mind and horrible genetics and this guy is the result. Lets be real. He could diet his ass off and still look like shit. He was not meant to look good with his shirt off, this is the brutal truth.
X2
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Sad story he was just trying to be something.
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jason needs a supply of rock cocaine for a couple weeks he would be dialed in in 2 weeks tops
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agreed, but he could try his best and get as lean as possible to look ok-ish, but realisticaly, even if that happened,i dont see him maintaining that even remotely, im tending toward conclusion-solution of euthanizing :-\
Lol-no doubt.
I just think what you see is what you get. Overall, there has been 0 progress-a fluctuation here and there, that's about it.
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agreed, but he could try his best and get as lean as possible to look ok-ish, but realisticaly, even if that happened,i dont see him maintaining that even remotely, I'm tending toward conclusion-solution of euthanizing :-\
I posted that dog wouldn't hunt. ;D
Look, I've worked with all types, including border line Assburgers, dope fiends, nose pickers, stinky-stinkers, bank robbers and these fuckers all ended up having solid to amazing builds. Why? THEY WANTED IT.
He cries, he whines and ACTS like he has passion. HE IS AN ATTENTION WHORE, CONNING ON A DAILY BASIS.
CON MAN who is a tad slow.
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the 170 shredded thing obviously depends on height. at 6 feet I would NOT look i ever lifted a weight in my life.
ya but he is like 5 foot 8
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exactly. adonis has a good head on his shoulders but he has his head up his ass when it comes to diet. just because something works does not mean it's the optimal approach.
He does know one thing & that's how to get ripped. But I can bet it wasn't on TV dinners.
me i give diet advice to nattys bc im natty at times myself and have been for long time, theres indeed differences.
let me say this, the adonis concept is ok for natties, not optimal, but its actualy ok.
for gear users its a recipe for disaster.
I dunno Gal, when you give advice like "If your natural why do you even bother lifting" OR "do some pushups a few times a week because there's no point lifting"(which you've done on many occasions) I question how knowledgeable you really are on being a lifetime natural.
Jason's problem is he is eating WAY to many carbs & not enough cardio. That's pretty much it.
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/gtcoupe/jg.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/gtcoupe/media/jg.jpg.html)
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/gtcoupe/jg.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/gtcoupe/media/jg.jpg.html)
lmfao.
this is what im talking about. this is not the body of someone who lifts weights. his retardation limits him physically at least his upper half, don't tell me it doesn't.
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lmfao.
this is what im talking about. this is not the body of someone who lifts weights. his retardation limits him physically at least his upper half, don't tell me it doesn't.
again this is embarrasing why would some one encourage a pic like this,to show progress or to encourage'jason some day'
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again this is embarrasing why would some one encourage a pic like this,to show progress or to encourage'jason some day'
agree. this guy has been abused and taken advantage of. the guy behind the camera seriously needs his head kicked in.
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/gtcoupe/jg.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/gtcoupe/media/jg.jpg.html)
Hell.
Ok. I take back "a bit slow" and "con man"
Full on mentally disabled.
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mentally handicapped/border line retarded=check
Forever altering diet and training with zero (good) results=check-----*dude has fallen apart in front of our eyes
and just like Genova's youtube "fans" the vast majority of us encourage his self-destructive and embarrassing behaviour/diets/training
who would have thought looking at the DaddyWaddy days he would morph into a 300lb slob???
your lack of willpower is sickening Falcon :-X
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You're missing the whole point fuckface.
I surmise it's an intelligence issue, which isn't really your fault
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You're missing the whole point fuckface.
I surmise it's an intelligence issue, which isn't really your fault
blah blah blah
the schtick was played out 5yrs ago----now its just sad
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blah blah blah
the schtick was played out 5yrs ago----now its just sad
Sounds wild!
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Sounds wild!
wow with posts like this its no wonder Ive never noticed you before on all my years on getbig
quite the literary genius huh
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in falcons defense he wasnt born a retard, paint thinner did it to him
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wow with posts like this its no wonder Ive never noticed you before on all my years on getbig
quite the literary genius huh
Are you coming on to me?
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in falcons defense he wasnt born a retard, paint thinner did it to him
haha remember his dope phase
he came on here talking about the benefits of heroin======he called it "Hero-win"
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Are you coming on to me?
depends----how big are your feet??
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Hmm i dotn agree, jason has a few screws lose, falcon is just fucking around.
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depends----how big are your feet??
Depends----are you in to big penises?
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I would like to see PJ respond on here and give his take on things.
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i would say falcon is just an original dude that doesn't give a fuck what other think
i respect that
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yeah man, he s just toying you.
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i would say falcon is just an original dude that doesn't give a fuck what other think
i respect that
Ergo: You can no longer translate Herr Falcone.
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Hmm i dotn agree, jason has a few screws lose, falcon is just fucking around.
fucking around??
Adonis fucks around but he backs up his talk and is able to stay in great shape----falcon is just a mess that posts a lot, is semi-retarded and unable to ever get back into shape
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In all seriousness it is saddening to see the deterioration in johnny falcon. Look at his pics from the daddywaddy days and compare them to present day.
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fucking around??
Adonis fucks around but he backs up his talk and is able to stay in great shape----falcon is just a mess that posts a lot, is semi-retarded and unable to ever get back into shape
hmm you still dont know him that well, he is more intelligent than you think, like i said most of the time he is not being serious, he is kinda obsessed with food that i can say, why would he get back in shape? maybe he has other priorities
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fucking around??
Adonis fucks around but he backs up his talk and is able to stay in great shape----falcon is just a mess that posts a lot, is semi-retarded and unable to ever get back into shape
Lol Adonis hasn't posted a current pic in 5 years. Got in shape once or twice and lives off of that.
Falcon cares about health not the way he looks. Not saying he's healthy, but that's why he has the physique he does
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Lol Adonis hasn't posted a current pic in 5 years. Got in shape once or twice and lives off of that.
Falcon cares about health not the way he looks. Not saying he's healthy, but that's why he has the physique he does
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Haha ok I'll rephrase: Falcons goal is to stay healthy. Not that he is doing a good job of it :D
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Cswole is getbigs Genova. Neither can get cut.
Who would win a bb comp between these two?
If Genova could stick to a diet a little better he would win easily.
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in falcons defense he wasnt born a retard, paint thinner did it to him
I always thought it was the hydrogen peroxide, Celtic sea salt and lemon juice that did him in.
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Falcon is one of Getbigs most enlightened individuals.
He is nothing like Genova.
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fucking around??
Adonis fucks around but he backs up his talk and is able to stay in great shape----falcon is just a mess that posts a lot, is semi-retarded and unable to ever get back into shape
Normally I agree with you, but I think Falcon is kind of a mascot.
"The kid stays in the picture"
He's a getbig staple, he's bread and butter, and from a financial standpoint he probably pulls more ad clicks then you do. More cheese for Ron.
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There are no ads on this forum. Ron is missing the boat there.
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I used to believe the falcon persona was an act but I'm not so sure anymore.
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Falcon is the best
True Falconite and honorary Getbulker
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I used to believe the falcon persona was an act but I'm not so sure anymore.
He is an out there dude. Probably a cool guy to hang out with though.
On a side note, I have a terrible hangover that needs to be straightened out to play GTA and Madden for awhile.
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I'd say that Mr Falcon just entertains different kinds of theories, whether it's theories regarding physics, philosophy or something else, and present them under the guise of "comical insanity" - to take a bit of seriousness out of very complex issues.
It's actually quite smart as it gives room to a lot of crazy intrepretations that may have value in discussing any given topic that otherwise would be too pretentious or complicated. Sometimes the "bigger picture" of a phenomena is more important / interesting than focusing on explicit and well established facts.
A lot of interesting concepts, that go back to way more accomplished men than most of us here, are hidden in his ramblings but the context to which they are presented often make them hard to grasp.
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The Falcon is one of GetBig's elders.
He helps us soar to great new heights with his teachings.
"1"
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I'd say that Mr Falcon just entertains different kinds of theories, whether it's theories regarding physics, philosophy or something else, and present them under the guise of "comical insanity" - to take a bit of seriousness out of very complex issues.
It's actually quite smart as it gives room to a lot of crazy intrepretations that may have value in discussing any given topic that otherwise would be too pretentious or complicated. Sometimes the "bigger picture" of a phenomena is more important / interesting than focusing on explicit and well established facts.
A lot of interesting concepts, that go back to way more accomplished men than most of us here, are hidden in his ramblings but the context to which they are presented often make them hard to grasp.
The problem with this is that most people don't see the subtle hints he's providing and therefore dismiss him as a loonie - when in fact it could be their own cognitive shortcomings that are restricting them from understanding what he's getting at.
I think most people have a big problem in synthesizing knowledge from different fields and create abstract systems, or even entertaining the thought of different systems, thereby dismissing this type of thinking.
Falcon is, in my opinion, way more profound than some of the other self professed "intellectuals" holding some sort of, to Getbig, contrarian world view.
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Ask yourself, what would Getbig be, what would WE be, without the Falcon???
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Getbig is not getbig without the falcon - it's getbi or something like that. He is a Jesus figure. He eats clay and sea salt for our sins.
Everybody goes through a phase of misunderstanding and hating the falcon. This is a necessary step on the path to learning to stop worrying and loving him.
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The problem with this is that most people don't see the subtle hints he's providing and therefore dismiss him as a loonie - when in fact it could be their own cognitive shortcomings that are restricting them from understanding what he's getting at.
I think most people have a big problem in synthesizing knowledge from different fields and create abstract systems, or even entertaining the thought of different systems, thereby dismissing this type of thinking.
Falcon is, in my opinion, way more profound than some of the other self professed "intellectuals" holding some sort of, to Getbig, contrarian world view.
these are methods some teachers in private schools use on there kids to motivate and teach them/help them to learn. i try to push getbig in the right direction with indirection, that is the key to get them to not learn :D
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haha nice trolling falcon boys
I might respect the dude if could actually get in shape-----fuck, the dude has 10K+ posts about food and diet yet is a fat sloppy mess....what a waste of time and life
I know you boys enjoy laughing at our resident retard but it got stale 5yrs ago...just sad now
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Falcon may be legend, but his brain is mush.
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Looks good.
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wow just wow. poor kid, is he really that delusional? skip to the end he "poses"
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Can someone fill me in on this shit I've seen these post and bids but what's the deal here ..... feel free to PM me
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Can someone fill me in on this shit I've seen these post and bids but what's the deal here ..... feel free to PM me
Kid who clearly isn't all there wants to be pro bodybuilder
Vids go viral and he develops a following
Becomes sponsored by Pj Braun/Aaron Singerman(sp)
Constant vids of him thanking sponsors while training
Doesn't take diet seriously and doesn't get in shape. Never actually competes.
Loves to begin workouts w shrugs.
I think that just about covers the awfulness that is Genova videos.
In all seriousness, the kid needs help and clearly doesn't have individuals around him who want what's best for him.
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Why the fuck are there people trying to couch him ...... is there a SPECIAL class in bodybuilding
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Why the fuck are there people trying to couch him ...... is there a SPECIAL class in bodybuilding
"Couch" him? Are you implying a late night grope fest underneath the under armour as SNL flickers in the background?
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Epic half-reps but the tool in the black trying to keep up with Jason, hah hah!
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This kid...
needed to get smacked harder as a child
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"Couch" him? Are you implying a late night grope fest underneath the under armour as SNL flickers in the background?
fucking phone auto correct
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