Shraded is jobless as of 2 hours ago... yay

[Livewire]

Without giving the game away, the boss was in on it from the beginning...

This happened to Jay once.  Back to the ol' drawing board.

[Al-Gebra]

Sounds about right.  Companies don't give a shit about you.  You can bust your ass for years and they'll fire you over nothing.

it's not nothing . . . they are liable for anything he posted/did while in the "scope of employment." they're just trying to cover their own asses by having a "zero tolerance" policy.

lots of firms block sites for this reason.

[JediKnight]

No offense, but you must feel like shit. I bet they didnt respect you from the second you started working there. How do you get fired from a place for searching the internet. The internet can be accessed from just about anywhere these days and they fire you for that. What are you under 21 years of age? If your doing your job, who is to tell you what you can look at?

[Al-Gebra]

shraded, you should try to help your boss out w the weekend's shit (e-mail him needed info, etc.).  remember that the next place you look to get a job at might call him . . . you worked there for a year and a half, after all.  best to leave things as positive as you can  . . .

[G o a t b o y]

They didn't say when i got "caught" i was going to lunch and manager saw me downstairs when i was headed to the garage. 

A family friend came over, he's the level 2 manager they're the dept that handles phone systems, switch boards, all the hardware- i guess they have everything including every keystroke you do, so if i posted a shit, damn it, hell, even a f*ck- thats applies to the zero tolerance- the avatars which i didn' t think of would do it too- he pointed that out quick

What exactly is the policy? You can't use the internet for non-work related stuff even during breaks, or you're not allowed to type certain words?

[OneMoreRep]

Honeslty its fucking stupid, but lets be real i shouldn't have been on getbig even if i wasn't looking at tits til i got home... still fucking stupid though... lol

Some companies are extremely strict when it comes to this and even go as far as to say that by you using their systems to surf material unrelated to work, you have indirectly wasted company resources (bandwidth), even if during lunch, that can be measured as a monetary loss over the long run substantiating termination.

If I were you, I would first apply for unemployment since you did get terminated, hopefully they'll be nice enough to allow it to process (You got terminated for internet misconduct, so it might be a stretch, but it can't hurt to try).  If you start getting some of that, dig up the old company manual on regulations regarding computer usage and take it to a good lawyer that can spend a few days dissecting it.  If he manages to find a loophole around the rules that can validate a suit, consider it.  Sometimes, a settlement or your old job can be attained in the process..

If you don't want the hassle, just collect the unemployment (if you get it) and simply pick up a meager odd job in the meantime to supplement the unemployment income and to hopefully make ends meet until a month from now when you have another job with similar compensation.

[G o a t b o y]

Some companies are extremely strict when it comes to this and even go as far as to say that by you using their systems to surf material unrelated to work, you have indirectly wasted company resources (bandwidth), even if during lunch, that can be measured as a monetary loss over the long run substantiating termination.

That would be the equivalent of a company rule saying you can't use your telephone to make a non work-related call, since it "wastes company resources".  While these types of rules may be necessary for young clock-punchers, I can't believe a company would think they could place such restrictions on college-educated professionals and manage to attract or retain talent... most people would find someplace else to work.

[Shraded]

Pretty much you can't do shit on the internet that they think is inappropriate- titties on avatars being one    I was on internet all day with dual flat screen monitors- they apparently don't now how fun reading threads on those big screens are... jk...

Thanks AG- and ya I took care of it all, made sure all the materials i just got for the investing job I was starting where taken to that director, etc..  The HR lady looked surprised as shit with how helpful I was...

And they for those that don't know are a military based company-  they have personal info on fbi agents, 5 star generals, dea agents, shawn ray... wait ot him... But they have a lot of confidential info we can view and its possible to be hacked i guess.

Yes, i feel like shit- but you live and you learn. Thankfully i'm only 24, single, no kids, etc...

[Shraded]

I wasn't on all day looking at the internet- however my job required me to go to java, adobe, intuit, etc regularly..

Forgive me if i don't spell check tonight- i'm lazy

[G o a t b o y]

Pretty much you can't do shit on the internet that they think is inappropriate- titties on avatars being one    

Do they define in advance what is or is not "inappropriate"?

It's not like this is a porn site. Anyone can click on what they in good faith assume is an innocent site, and a pop-up with titties or whatever unexpectedly comes up.

[Al-Gebra]

That would be the equivalent of a company rule saying you can't use your telephone to make a non work-related call, since it "wastes company resources".  While these types of rules may be necessary for young clock-punchers, I can't believe a company would think they could place such restrictions on college-educated professionals and manage to attract or retain talent... most people would find someplace else to work.

I'm surprised you work at a place that allows you unfettered access to the internet on their network . . . in my experience, the higher up the ladder, the stricter the policy.

[Shraded]

I can appeal it- and I think i probably will while looking for another job in the mean time.  Like who's Driving post i clicked on it saw what it was left the page- if they want to say something like that is unethical because I went back to the "site" containing that... then I can't argue i guess.  Talking about steroids on the board on my breaks- i stated i never took them....  I don't know exactly what they pin pointed, like i said i was on getbig everyday since the start of this BB season.  I mean the shit on here is funny and there actually is good advice in some cases. I worked in the industry of BB and supplements from the age of 14 and to me BB, steroids, a chic- not Bob in posing gear isn't porn...

[Shraded]

I'm surprised you work at a place that allows you unfettered access to the internet on their network . . . in my experience, the higher up the ladder, the stricter the policy.

Well mysapce, youtube, even msn entertainment, magazine sites like spin or maxim are all blocked- there are a lot of blocked sites- during the whole time they ever blocked here even after they made the decision obviously becuase I was on here before I went downstairs

[PANDAEMONIUM]

I can appeal it- and I think i probably will while looking for another job in the mean time.  Like who's Driving post i clicked on it saw what it was left the page- if they want to say something like that is unethical because I went back to the "site" containing that... then I can't argue i guess.  Talking about steroids on the board on my breaks- i stated i never took them....  I don't know exactly what they pin pointed, like i said i was on getbig everyday since the start of this BB season.  I mean the shit on here is funny and there actually is good advice in some cases. I worked in the industry of BB and supplements from the age of 14 and to me BB, steroids, a chic- not Bob in posing gear isn't porn...

Do you think the gov't is to paranoid about its employees looking at "questionable" sites because of the Robert Hanssen FBI "betrayal" stuff?

[Al-Gebra]

I can appeal it- and I think i probably will while looking for another job in the mean time.  Like who's Driving post i clicked on it saw what it was left the page- if they want to say something like that is unethical because I went back to the "site" containing that... then I can't argue i guess.  Talking about steroids on the board on my breaks- i stated i never took them....  I don't know exactly what they pin pointed, like i said i was on getbig everyday since the start of this BB season.  I mean the shit on here is funny and there actually is good advice in some cases. I worked in the industry of BB and supplements from the age of 14 and to me BB, steroids, a chic- not Bob in posing gear isn't porn...

if they discussed it w you, then you should definitely appeal . . . as it means that there's not a zero tolerance policy.  and you're young enough to where litigation makes no sense.  you can start afresh someplace else . .. maybe even a better place. although banking seems headed for a little bit of crunch . . . more incentive to appeal. 

[G o a t b o y]

I'm surprised you work at a place that allows you unfettered access to the internet on their network . . . in my experience, the higher up the ladder, the stricter the policy.

"Big Brother" tactics like these are very popular at publicly-traded fortune-500 type companies.  Not so much with smaller and medium-sized companies, especially when privately held.

[Shraded]

if they discussed it w you, then you should definitely appeal . . . as it means that there's not a zero tolerance policy.  and you're young enough to where litigation makes no sense.  you can start afresh someplace else . .. maybe even a better place. although banking seems headed for a little bit of crunch . . . more incentive to appeal. 

You know half the time the pics come up as red X's....  Hell that could have been registering as porn... didn't ven thin k of that...  the Hr lady was cool she gave me her number, said to call if i wanted it appeal it, told security she'd walk me out personally, and when i was cooperative and giving my boss directions on how to return the investment material- she seemed very receptive.  And honestly i was doing a lot of shit for my department- that and my degree are why i got into the investment job not licensed... but i guess they don't care- ether way i will call her in the morning, i couldn't think about shit during our discussion  

[PANDAEMONIUM]

You know half the time the pics come up as red X's....  Hell that could have been registering as porn... didn't ven thin k of that...  the Hr lady was cool she gave me her number, said to call if i wanted it appeal it, told security she'd walk me out personally, and when i was cooperative and giving my boss directions on how to return the investment material- she seemed very receptive.  And honestly i was doing a lot of shit for my department- that and my degree are why i got into the investment job not licensed... but i guess they don't care- ether way i will call her in the morning, i couldn't think about shit during our discussion 

What kind of gov't outfit exactly did you work for?

[Shraded]

What could have sparked it is that i was submitted for a promotion in my current dept and the processing for the new job.. Somewhere along the lines they could have checked my internet habits 

The appeal is if you feel the accusations were false- I just see myself saying "I wasn't looking at porn" then they pull up a screen shot of one of the times i clicked on caption this and it wasn't a Vince and Billy posedown or something...  Either way the worst is they say no... 

[Shraded]

What kind of gov't outfit exactly did you work for?

I worked for USAA, they are the main supplier for the military, gov't, etc for banking, investing insurance (all types)- so we have access to any and all members there account numbers, ssns, address, you name it

[onlyme]

Thats what you get for working at MD

[Fulgorre]

Here is my 2cents.

In the future try surfing within Outlook email.  Now, they can still see what you are looking at, but unless they suspect you of something I was told by an IT guy there is a good chance they will not look in Outlook to see what web pages you have been going to.

[Below Me]

Welcome to today's professional world. 

If you have the credentials, you shouldn't be that off locating a new job.  Got t remember who the clientel you were dealing with and the need for security.

[Stark]

Here is my 2cents.

In the future try surfing within Outlook email.  Now, they can still see what you are looking at, but unless they suspect you of something I was told by an IT guy there is a good chance they will not look in Outlook to see what web pages you have been going to.

How do you use Outlook to surfe the internet?

[Tre]

shraded, you should try to help your boss out w the weekend's shit (e-mail him needed info, etc.).  remember that the next place you look to get a job at might call him . . . you worked there for a year and a half, after all.  best to leave things as positive as you can  . . .

Excellent advice.