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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #875 on: April 12, 2011, 08:07:49 PM »
That's what I don't understand because they are essentially the same arguments.

911 had far more gravity than this.   

3000 dead americans, and anything more than an investigation one of the commisison members called 'a whitewash' was considered unpatriotic. 


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #876 on: April 12, 2011, 08:35:17 PM »
this....

Many Hedge funds ask for SAT scores, GMAT scores, etc..GPA's...

It's not unheard of asking for grades.

There is a difference with a $8 dollar and hour job at Walmart. And I am not implying it's unheard of.  

But I dont see that as relative.  It's reasonable to ask the POTUS for this info, but it's also with in his rights to refuse to do so.  The only way is to make a law.  Until then spewing goading rhetoric in an attempt to raise suspicion is a waste of time and very transparent.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #877 on: April 12, 2011, 08:39:25 PM »
If there is a recent change in policy and Hawaiians can no longer get a copy of their long form birth certificate, that sounds very suspect.  I don't know of any other state where you can't get your long form BC upon request. 

That's not what was stated a few days ago.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #878 on: April 12, 2011, 08:40:03 PM »
911 had far more gravity than this.   

3000 dead americans, and anything more than an investigation one of the commisison members called 'a whitewash' was considered unpatriotic. 


I agree, it's too bad its a dying issue.  As you know I for one support another investigation.  

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #879 on: April 13, 2011, 07:47:04 AM »
Sarah Obama said Barack Jr. passed through her hands as an orphan
Jefferson's Rebels ^ | Erica


Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:14:30 AM by EricaD

Sarah Obama Said Barack Obama Jr. Was An Orphan in Kenya

[Note: Go to http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/04/sarah-obama-said-barack-obama-was.html to view screen shot images of cited articles, and to follow text links.]

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Sarah Obama said that Barack Obama passed through her hands as an orphan. How could that possibly happen?

Below you will find a fairly recent but undated article about Sarah Obama's humanitarian work with orphans and other vulnerable children over the course of her life.

In the Catholic Relief Services article, Mama Sarah, as she's affectionately called, opened her simple home to dozens of children "over the last 40 years." In addition, she is said to have received help for hundreds of other children. She clearly has dedicated her life to helping vulnerable children.

So strong has been public interest in Kogelo village since Barack Obama's election, that the Mama Sarah Obama Children Foundation was established to collect donations for these children. In contrast to the CRS article, Sarah's Foundation website says unequivocally that Mama Sarah has been tending children since 1945, which means she has been taking care of children for over 65 years.

"Since then to date her household has never missed an orphan or vulnerable child in pursuit of education."

That time frame is relevant to the issue of Barack Obama's early childhood because it means she was caring for children in 1961, the year of Obama's birth.

Why is this relevant? Because Sarah made this stunningly explicit remark on May 4, 2010 when she was awarded an honorary doctorate from the Tom Mboya Labour College in Kisumu:

"This is a show of blessing from God, since I have always dedicated my time to tend to the orphans. Even the US president passed through my hands," added the grandmother."

If indeed Barack Obama Jr. was born in her presence, and if he was born as a conjoined twin as has been suggested due to severe scars on his head, he might have been rejected by his natural mother. Who better than Sarah Obama to care for such a vulnerable child? Additional photos of Obama's scars available at the Daily Mail.

Sarah Obama's comment raises more questions and, not surprisingly, encourages speculation.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #880 on: April 13, 2011, 07:59:31 AM »
LOL!  This is awesome!

Obama is a conjoined twin, born in an orphanage in Kenya.  Stolen and whisked away to hawaii to work his life as a drug-abusing spy. 

It's like a cool Leo DiCaprio movie.  Now, we need to replace Obama with his twin brother, a conservative spendthrift locked in an iron mask in a castle by the sea.  Let the swordfights ensue!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #881 on: April 13, 2011, 07:59:56 AM »
Encourages speculation.....like there is a mind control chip in his head too!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #882 on: April 13, 2011, 12:21:04 PM »
Obama would not be here without his scholarship
Fox news ^ | April 13, 2011 | jd



In Obama's speech today on his tax plan, he mentioned that he would not be here without his scholarship.

Does anyone know what scholarship he received and for which college? This is the first I heard of it.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #883 on: April 13, 2011, 12:37:48 PM »
Arizona Senate passes Obama birther bill after boost from Donald Trump
Biz Journals ^ | 04/13/2011 | Mike Sunnucks




The Arizona Senate approved the so-called ‘birther’ bill requiring 2012 presidential candidates to prove they were born in the U.S. and are thus eligible to run for president.

The measure, House Bill 2177, is aimed at President Barack Obama and those on the political right who want him to produce a birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii and not Kenya, where his father if from.

The Arizona Legislature passed the bill 20-8 on a party-line vote in the State Senate with Republicans backing and Democrats opposing.

The measure includes some changes that allow for other documents beside birth certificates to be produced by presidential contenders. It now goes back to the Arizona House of Representatives for another vote. The House previously approved the birther bill without new Senate changes.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #884 on: April 13, 2011, 12:49:56 PM »
Sarah Obama said Barack Jr. passed through her hands as an orphan
Jefferson's Rebels ^ | Erica


Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:14:30 AM by EricaD

Sarah Obama Said Barack Obama Jr. Was An Orphan in Kenya

[Note: Go to http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/04/sarah-obama-said-barack-obama-was.html to view screen shot images of cited articles, and to follow text links.]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sarah Obama said that Barack Obama passed through her hands as an orphan. How could that possibly happen?

Below you will find a fairly recent but undated article about Sarah Obama's humanitarian work with orphans and other vulnerable children over the course of her life.

In the Catholic Relief Services article, Mama Sarah, as she's affectionately called, opened her simple home to dozens of children "over the last 40 years." In addition, she is said to have received help for hundreds of other children. She clearly has dedicated her life to helping vulnerable children.

So strong has been public interest in Kogelo village since Barack Obama's election, that the Mama Sarah Obama Children Foundation was established to collect donations for these children. In contrast to the CRS article, Sarah's Foundation website says unequivocally that Mama Sarah has been tending children since 1945, which means she has been taking care of children for over 65 years.

"Since then to date her household has never missed an orphan or vulnerable child in pursuit of education."

That time frame is relevant to the issue of Barack Obama's early childhood because it means she was caring for children in 1961, the year of Obama's birth.

Why is this relevant? Because Sarah made this stunningly explicit remark on May 4, 2010 when she was awarded an honorary doctorate from the Tom Mboya Labour College in Kisumu:

"This is a show of blessing from God, since I have always dedicated my time to tend to the orphans. Even the US president passed through my hands," added the grandmother."

If indeed Barack Obama Jr. was born in her presence, and if he was born as a conjoined twin as has been suggested due to severe scars on his head, he might have been rejected by his natural mother. Who better than Sarah Obama to care for such a vulnerable child? Additional photos of Obama's scars available at the Daily Mail.

Sarah Obama's comment raises more questions and, not surprisingly, encourages speculation.





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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #885 on: April 13, 2011, 01:05:38 PM »
Arizona Senate passes Obama birther bill after boost from Donald Trump
Biz Journals ^ | 04/13/2011 | Mike Sunnucks




The Arizona Senate approved the so-called ‘birther’ bill requiring 2012 presidential candidates to prove they were born in the U.S. and are thus eligible to run for president.

The measure, House Bill 2177, is aimed at President Barack Obama and those on the political right who want him to produce a birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii and not Kenya, where his father if from.

The Arizona Legislature passed the bill 20-8 on a party-line vote in the State Senate with Republicans backing and Democrats opposing.

The measure includes some changes that allow for other documents beside birth certificates to be produced by presidential contenders. It now goes back to the Arizona House of Representatives for another vote. The House previously approved the birther bill without new Senate changes.


(Excerpt) Read more at bizjournals.com ...


Clever way of getting Obama to cough up a more substantial proof of eligibility.  Sounds like AZ will be hearing from Eric Holder again.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #886 on: April 13, 2011, 01:08:04 PM »
Fact is that bama is hiding his records for a good reason - he knows info about his past would horrify most.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #887 on: April 13, 2011, 01:13:27 PM »
Fact is that bama is hiding his records for a good reason - he knows info about his past would horrify most.   

That's a fact? Really? A FACT?!

Come on dude... You know that's not true.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #888 on: April 13, 2011, 01:19:09 PM »
That's a fact? Really? A FACT?!

Come on dude... You know that's not true.

Yes - between ayeres, klahid rashidi, benradine dohrn, klalid mansour, wright, meetings with the socialist democrats, his bizarre missing records from occidental, columbia, and harvard, etc, he is hiding a ton of info.

Sorry TU - most of you who voted for obama bought into a scam and a lie.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #889 on: April 13, 2011, 01:24:24 PM »
Yes - between ayeres, klahid rashidi, benradine dohrn, klalid mansour, wright, meetings with the socialist democrats, his bizarre missing records from occidental, columbia, and harvard, etc, he is hiding a ton of info.

Sorry TU - most of you who voted for obama bought into a scam and a lie.   

But THIS is a fact?! You have some proof to make it so?
Fact is that bama is hiding his records for a good reason - he knows info about his past would horrify most.   

To claim a "fact" requires a LOT more than you've stated... You have all conjecture and zero proof... That does not a "fact" make.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #890 on: April 13, 2011, 01:32:47 PM »
Its common sense!  Someone comes to me and says:

Chris:  "These assholes keep up with this crap - Pay the $15.00, release the records, and put this to bed" 

or:

Chris:  "We were just served with a summons and complaint in Federal Court challenging your eligibility to be POTUS based on your failure to release your recrods, challenging your NBC status, challenging your birth story as reported thus far, it willcost $450 an hour and run potentially hundreds of thousands to defend and potentially require EBT's, discovery, etc" 


Guess which one I choose?   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #891 on: April 13, 2011, 01:37:46 PM »
Is Obama Ineligibility a Side Show or the Main Event?
BIRTHERS, HISTORIANS AND OBOTS’ DEFINITIONS OF “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”

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by JB Williams, ©2011





The Certification of Live Birth does not contain the details, nor resemble the format, of a long-form birth certificate which the state of Hawaii now contends cannot be released to anyone



(Apr. 13, 2011) — Despite monumental efforts to keep Obama’s entire past completely under wraps, questions persist over who and what Barack Hussein Obama really is and how a half-term senate political neophyte with a totally blank resume managed to defeat the Clinton machine to become the most secretive president in U.S. history. Is it a side show, or the main event?

Because Obama has refused to release his official vault birth certificate, college, passport records or family history including all medical records, and because he and those covering for him insist that there is ‘nothing to see here’ – many Americans are increasingly interested in how Obama was able to happen to America.

His many overt anti-American and anti-constitution policies have driven speculation that not only is he not a natural born citizen eligible for the office he holds, he may not even be American at all.

Business mogul Donald Trump appears ready to run for office on the search for a real Obama birther certificate. Not a COLB, but a real authentic birth certificate that looks just like every other American birth certificate.

The press is largely responsible for the ongoing circus, as they have been completely uninterested in the matter for almost three years now.  Never before in history has the press taken so little sincere journalistic interest in what could be the greatest scam ever perpetrated on American voters.

They still claim that Obama’s COLB (Certification of Live Birth) is an actual birth certificate, even though we all know that it isn’t. We have seen real Hawaii birth certificates from people born in Hawaii on the same day Obama claims to have been born, even from the same hospital.

But is the missing birth certificate the real issue?

We all agree that the constitution requires one to be a natural born citizen of the United States to be president – “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;” – But there is more than one definition of natural born citizen being proposed.

■The Obot definition is simply citizen – native, natural, naturalized, hatchet, all being one in the same, using 14th Amendment naturalization arguments which are actually unrelated to the subject.
■The birther definition is one line borrowed from Vattel’s book on the Law of Nations – “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” – But this definition ignores everything else Vattel said on the matter.
■The historians definition also comes from Vattel’s Law of Nations, but relies on the entire body of work; 1) As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights; 2) The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; 3) in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
According to the Obot definition, all American citizens are natural born citizens eligible for office, including 14th Amendment citizens, which means, Article II – Section I – Clause V of the constitution means nothing at all.

According to birthers searching for an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate, confirming Obama’s birthplace, or native born status, will establish whether or not Obama is eligible for the office he holds.

Obama is happy with both of these definitions. The Obot definition of “citizen” sets the bar so low that Obama is confident he can meet that test, as could any anchor baby or 14th Amendment citizen.

Once birthers help Obots establish that native and natural born are the same thing, Obama will likely find his missing birth certificate, even if the ink is not yet dry.

His opposition will claim that the runny ink on the wrong paper proves it is a forgery, but Obama’s defense team, known as the U.S. Justice Department, will argue that it is authentic. Leftist self-made Academics at FactCheck and Snopes will confirm and the press will say, “See, we told ya so!”

The Supreme Court that has dodged the question for three years will continue to dodge the question. Obama’s name will appear on the 2012 presidential ballot in all 50 states and anyone opposed will be labeled a racist.

But the historian’s definition is not only factually correct – it leaves Obama no escape route and we don’t even need to find the missing birth certificate.

1) those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers;

2) The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children;

3) it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen;

The true historical meaning of the term natural born citizen is based in natural law, not man-made law.

The Law of Nations is the foundation, but not just the line birthers choose to hang their hat on, but the balance of the entire work, which clearly identifies the bloodline of the natural birth father as the source from which all rights succeed, specifically, natural born citizenship.

We do not need a Hawaiian birth certificate because Obama has repeatedly identified his natural birth father as Barack Hussein Obama I of Kenya, who was at no time in his life a citizen of the United States. Therefore, Barack Hussein Obama I could not have passed U.S. natural born citizenship to his son, Barack Hussein Obama II.

As a constitutional law student, certainly, Barack Hussein Obama knows this, and that is why he is thrilled that people continue the silly search for a missing Hawaiian birth certificate, which would only affirm his native born status and also identify Barack Hussein Obama I as his natural birth father.

Because natural rights are transferred to offspring via the bloodline of the father, Barack Hussein Obama II cannot be a natural born citizen of the United States, no matter where he might have been born.

Why are birthers still in search of a birth certificate? What do they think they can gain from finding that missing document?

If the goal is to uphold the constitution and preserve the future of the constitutional republic, then they need only remove Obama from office, along with all who participated in the grandest scam ever perpetrated upon American voters.

Members of Congress and the Supreme Court either know this truth, or they should. They are either looking the other way for political gain, or they are horrifically unqualified for the jobs they currently hold. Either way, they are complicit…

The ongoing search for a birth certificate is a dangerous distraction from the search for truth. The future of freedom and liberty hang in the balance. The people must get this one right, or they will get nothing else right.

This matter is no side show – it is the main event!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #892 on: April 13, 2011, 01:38:06 PM »
Its common sense!  Someone comes to me and says:

Chris:  "These assholes keep up with this crap - Pay the $15.00, release the records, and put this to bed" 

or:

Chris:  "We were just served with a summons and complaint in Federal Court challenging your eligibility to be POTUS based on your failure to release your recrods, challenging your NBC status, challenging your birth story as reported thus far, it willcost $450 an hour and run potentially hundreds of thousands to defend and potentially require EBT's, discovery, etc" 

Guess which one I choose?   

That's because you are not politically or strategically adept.  

You remember,  "it is what it is"  You have ZERO political sense when it comes to being "political".

Obama doesn't need to at the moment.  Birthers are on their way to becoming looked like 911 nut jobs.  They haven't been able to serve up anything worthwhile except empty evidence, conjecture, and rhetorical questions.

If i was Obama, i wouldn't do shit unless i had to for poltical reasons.  the same stallworth birthers would still not vote for Obama if he proved to them he was a NBC, so whay should he.

He is basically saying to all you birtherS SMOKE MY POLE.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #893 on: April 13, 2011, 01:40:15 PM »
Yeah 44% at gallup.  Its really working.    ::) 

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« Reply #894 on: April 13, 2011, 01:43:19 PM »
Its common sense!  Someone comes to me and says:

Chris:  "These assholes keep up with this crap - Pay the $15.00, release the records, and put this to bed" 

or:

Chris:  "We were just served with a summons and complaint in Federal Court challenging your eligibility to be POTUS based on your failure to release your recrods, challenging your NBC status, challenging your birth story as reported thus far, it willcost $450 an hour and run potentially hundreds of thousands to defend and potentially require EBT's, discovery, etc" 


Guess which one I choose?   

What you would choose and what is fact, aren't connected what so ever.

Nothing you have presented has any "fact" that goes against his eligibility.

If it is a cover up, it's the biggest conspiracy in the entire world... EVER.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #895 on: April 13, 2011, 01:45:39 PM »
Yeah 44% at gallup.  Its really working.    ::)  

And he's 44% because of the birther issue?   ::)

(that's not even a "nice try" 33333)


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #896 on: April 13, 2011, 01:47:27 PM »
News Flash:



"333333 and other birthers continue to smoke Obama's pole as he refuses to release records."

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #897 on: April 13, 2011, 01:48:56 PM »
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« Reply #898 on: April 13, 2011, 01:49:35 PM »


He is basically saying to all you birtherS SMOKE MY POLE.

Classic.



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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #899 on: April 13, 2011, 01:59:31 PM »
No - the moronic taxpayer paying for this farce is who gets the shaft.     


Obama is the con man of the milienium.