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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1225 on: April 27, 2011, 08:27:27 AM »
Trump has done something that no one else has been able to do.  He put enough attention on the BC issue to get Obama to release it.  Good work by Trump, he gets things done. 

It also shows obama has been playing games intentionally from Day 1 on this since he could have released this all along if he wanted to.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1226 on: April 27, 2011, 08:32:03 AM »
Yep. He got himself to go all over national television and look like a damn fool.

Obama really owned birther nut jobs on this one.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1227 on: April 27, 2011, 08:33:41 AM »
Yep. He got himself to go all over national television and look like a damn fool.

Obama really owned birther nut jobs on this one.

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Why didnt he release this from Day 1? 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1228 on: April 27, 2011, 09:18:33 AM »
Obama: I don't have time for 'silliness,' I'm late for Oprah
Daily Caller ^ | 04/27/2011 | Jonathan Strong




In a press conference announcing the release of his long form birth certificate, Obama denounced the “silliness,” the “sideshows and carnival barkers” that forced him to release a completely unremarkable document after years of speculation on the issue had metastasized into a political phenomenon he could no longer ignore.

“We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We’ve got better stuff to do. I’ve got better stuff to do. We’ve got big problems to solve,” the president said.

Minutes later, he boarded a helicopter, bound for Chicago where he will interview with Oprah, the queen of daytime TV talk shows who recently launched her own network.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1229 on: April 27, 2011, 09:18:45 AM »
Yep. He got himself to go all over national television and look like a damn fool.

Obama really owned birther nut jobs on this one.

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Someone had to put pressure on Obama.  It's not good for the country if half the people doubt his citizenship.  Trump got done what he set out to do. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1230 on: April 27, 2011, 09:28:07 AM »
Will Release Of Obama's Purported Birth Certificate Give Rise To New "Certer" Movement?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513






This morning’s White House release of President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate will, of course, do little to derail the “birther” movement, which will now analyze the document with the kind of verve previously directed toward those Texas Air National Guard memos faxed to CBS from that Kinko’s in Abilene.

So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:

• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1231 on: April 27, 2011, 09:39:09 AM »
Birth Certificate Issue Undermining Obama Ability to Do Job: White House Officials Before Release
Wednesday, April 27, 2011 | Kristinn





Last night, before the Obama administration released the president's long-form birth certificate, CNN's Ed Henry reported two of Obama's most senior White House advisers told him that the doubts about Obama's eligibility were affecting his ability to do his job.

Henry reported this on Anderson Cooper 360:

COOPER: Joining me now, White House correspondent Ed Henry, who asked a question to the spokesman today about that at the briefing. Also on the phone, political contributor Cornell Belcher, who did polling for the 2008 Obama campaign and will be working for the 2012 campaign Obama campaign as well.

Ed, you got even more reaction from the White House behind the scenes today. I know you have been talking to administration officials privately. Did they think there's any possible political benefit to this, any downside for some of the President's critics?

ED HENRY, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, senior advisers, I spoke to two of the President's most senior advisers today about this. And they insisted with real deep conviction that they think that they're not thinking about the politics, that this is bad for the country, in their words, because they say look, this is settled law to us, basically. They say the President put out the certificate of live birth, as you have been noting, and people like Donald Trump just won't listen.

And they say, in a situation like that, that is just bad for the country because people just want to make the President illegitimate at all costs just because they're critics and it makes it harder for the President to actually cut deals with Republicans, do his day job because it just persists.

COOPER: Well, Ed, let me -- let me argue Donald Trump's point here because he's not here to argue for it himself. Why not, if they want this to go away and they don't like the conversation, why not release the original birth certificate form, the so-called long form, which is actually called a certificate of live birth, rather than the certification of live birth, which they have released?

HENRY: I asked Jay Carney that very question as a follow-up. And he basically said, look, the critics like Donald Trump are just going to move the goalposts. Even if you put out the actual birth certificate, they would raise questions about the signature. They would raise questions about, well, was this doctored? As you heard Donald Trump, every time you presented him with a fact, Anderson, he came up with, well, he was born on a Friday, but it came out on a Sunday, this, that. The goalposts keep moving.

That's the way Jay Carney basically feels. That's what they feel at the White House, that no matter what they do, the conspiracy theorists are going to persist. So they believe the President dealt with this and it's over.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1232 on: April 27, 2011, 10:00:52 AM »
trump proud of himself.  for playing such a huge role.

god, anyone who buys into this egomaniac should have their head checked.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1233 on: April 27, 2011, 10:02:38 AM »
LOL @ what b irthers are complaining about now:


David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.



Was the doctor "in on it" by dying before age 90 to avoid getting caught?


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1234 on: April 27, 2011, 10:07:35 AM »

... don't become distracted by where he was born. It doesn't matter. The only reason to need the birth certificate is to verify Obama Sr. is the babydaddy and not Davis or Malcolm. If Sr. is babydaddy, Jr. is a British subject and not a natural born citizen. Then, dependent upon where he was born, he may or may not be a U.S. citizen of any type.

Okay, he's a citizen, he can stay in the US and not be deported.

He was a dual citizen AT BIRTH. He is NOT a "natural born Citizen" as required to be President. GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1235 on: April 27, 2011, 10:21:54 AM »
Authors: Even Hawaii birth won't make Obama eligible
WND ^ | April 26, 2011 | WND




Although President Obama released a purported long-form birth certificate today indicating he was born in Hawaii, he still might not fit the constitutional eligibility requirement that stipulates only "natural born" citizens can serve as U.S. president, according to a recent bestselling book.

An investigation by the authors found that according to correspondence from the original framers of the Constitution as well as multiple Supreme Court rulings and the legal writings that helped establish the principles of the Constitution, Obama is not eligible to serve as president since his father was not a U.S. citizen.

With nearly 900 endnotes, the book, "The Manchurian President: Barack Obama's Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists," was written by WABC Radio host and WND senior reporter Aaron Klein with researcher Brenda J. Elliott.

While the book was released last May, the work takes on renewed relevance today with Obama's release of his purported long-form birth certificate. In a chapter investigating eligibility issues, the book concluded Obama may not be eligible regardless of his place of birth. The authors recommend further legislative and judicial debate.

"It is undisputed that Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen," wrote Klein, "a fact that should have led to congressional debate about whether Obama is eligible under the United States Constitution to serve as president."


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1236 on: April 27, 2011, 10:25:16 AM »
Will Release Of Obama's Purported Birth Certificate Give Rise To New "Certer" Movement?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513






This morning’s White House release of President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate will, of course, do little to derail the “birther” movement, which will now analyze the document with the kind of verve previously directed toward those Texas Air National Guard memos faxed to CBS from that Kinko’s in Abilene.

So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:

• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1237 on: April 27, 2011, 10:32:19 AM »
Obama Long Form Layers?
docs.google.com ^ | April 27, 2011 |



If you import the original le from the White House in to Illustrator you will see the image is a clipping mask, meaning they were merged together. The next three pages show the individual pieces. If this were just a scan then why would it be able to be taken apart liket his? Why does the type-writer font look so digitized? Look at the di erence between the two signatures. One looks like it was written on the computer while the other looks like it was actually signed by hand on the document.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1238 on: April 27, 2011, 10:34:31 AM »
Missing the proverbial forest for the trees. What this has done is shown people what happens when you ignore the left-winged media types, who've been shielding Obama and calling those who question anything about the President "racists", "bigots", "birthers", etc.

Trump ignored all that crap and kept hitting Obama in the face with this issue, until he cracked. Now, if he (or whoever ends up the GOP challenger) keeps this up about the major issues that face up, Obama will melt like butter on a blowtorch. And, we may see a new president in 2012.

Uh no.  Fail.  Your stupid CT's have been proven wrong and you're trying to save face about it now. 
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1239 on: April 27, 2011, 10:37:31 AM »
Okay so mods can we now move this to the CT board?

It has been proven BEYOND reasonable doubt.  There is no more issue here, no more legitimate questions that can be asked about the birth certificate.  It has been released and PROVES BEYOND ANY DOUBT who Obama's father is, who is mother is, where he was born and when he was born.

This has got to be moved.  It's not longer relevant as the point is moot. 
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1240 on: April 27, 2011, 10:40:32 AM »
Okay so mods can we now move this to the CT board?

It has been proven BEYOND reasonable doubt.  There is no more issue here, no more legitimate questions that can be asked about the birth certificate.  It has been released and PROVES BEYOND ANY DOUBT who Obama's father is, who is mother is, where he was born and when he was born.

This has got to be moved.  It's not longer relevant as the point is moot. 

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Its only all over every single tv channel.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1241 on: April 27, 2011, 10:45:42 AM »
Uh no.  Fail.  Your stupid CT's have been proven wrong and you're trying to save face about it now. 

Earth to KC!!!

WHEN HAVE I EVER CLAIMED that Obama was not born in this country? When have I posted anything to that effect?


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1242 on: April 27, 2011, 10:51:59 AM »
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Its only all over every single tv channel.   

Yeah because now it's been PROVED BEYOND DOUBT and is now a redundant point. 

 
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1243 on: April 27, 2011, 10:55:39 AM »
Yeah because now it's been PROVED BEYOND DOUBT and is now a redundant point. 

 

Why did he wait 2 years to produce this and doesnt this add credence to those of us who said he was playing games?   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1244 on: April 27, 2011, 10:58:23 AM »
Why did he wait 2 years to produce this and doesnt this add credence to those of us who said he was playing games?   

THIS is where you're at?

youre mad that a politician is 'playing games' by not releasing a personal document?

We never saw Bush or clinton's longform birth cert, did we?  Did we ever see them?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1245 on: April 27, 2011, 11:04:30 AM »
THIS is where you're at?

youre mad that a politician is 'playing games' by not releasing a personal document?

We never saw Bush or clinton's longform birth cert, did we?  Did we ever see them?

I didnt know there was ever any doubt wuith those two since neither had a marxist Kenyan father, dubious stories of his past, no records whatsoever, and a complete lack of people to verify their bullshit narrative   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1246 on: April 27, 2011, 11:11:03 AM »
Why did he wait 2 years to produce this and doesnt this add credence to those of us who said he was playing games?   

Hahaha you are reduced to tears now! this post proves it.  Why did he wait?  Why did he make me look like such a fool? hahahaha

Talk about cry baby lib, you're the poster child for it on the right wing!
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1247 on: April 27, 2011, 11:15:09 AM »
Hahaha you are reduced to tears now! this post proves it.  Why did he wait?  Why did he make me look like such a fool? hahahaha

Talk about cry baby lib, you're the poster child for it on the right wing!

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All this shows is that he has been playing games from day 1.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1248 on: April 27, 2011, 11:17:48 AM »
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All this shows is that he has been playing games from day 1.   

its called politics.

if your adversary is crazy enough to accuse you of something - falsely - after the state says you are indeed born here - there is no responsibility on you to release it.

Obama chose to.

You're pissed he didn't release non-required personal info, well beyond what the state said was required, fast enough for you?


It's sour grapes now, champ.  It stinks and I'm still a birther, but he wins the public perception war, the only one what matters.  I am very sure palin ain't the mama, and 911 was allowed to happen... but history is written by the winners.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1249 on: April 27, 2011, 11:20:40 AM »
Hahaha you are reduced to tears now! this post proves it.  Why did he wait?  Why did he make me look like such a fool? hahahaha

Talk about cry baby lib, you're the poster child for it on the right wing!

Obama looks like a fool for not putting this issue to bed 3 years ago.  You can argue that his certification of live birth should have been good enough, but all he had to do was release the long form BC.  See, that wasn't so painful.