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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1350 on: April 29, 2011, 12:23:50 PM »
No... it wasn't Trump... It was the media and their infatuation with Trump.

Trump came out and spoke nonsense and people like 333 and the media to some extent ate it up... It was complete bullshit.



Same difference.  Without Trump appearing all over the media calling Obama out on this, Obama wouldn't have released it.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1351 on: April 29, 2011, 12:29:34 PM »
Same difference.  Without Trump appearing all over the media calling Obama out on this, Obama wouldn't have released it.   


That makes Trump some kind of special person?

Only in the mind of people who can't admit that he was simply a rich guy with a TV show who gets press because he says "you're fired" every week.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1352 on: April 29, 2011, 12:33:00 PM »

That makes Trump some kind of special person?

Only in the mind of people who can't admit that he was simply a rich guy with a TV show who gets press because he says "you're fired" every week.



I never said he was a special person.  He's just the person responsible for Obama producing his BC.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1353 on: April 29, 2011, 12:36:19 PM »
I never said he was a special person.  He's just the person responsible for Obama producing his BC.

No... people like 333 are responsible.

Trump wouldn't have even brought it up if he didn't get the idea from the kooks out there.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1354 on: April 29, 2011, 12:42:03 PM »
It only took three years because the Grifter-Looter-Madoff-in -Chief  Obama hid his records and made this an issue by playing games.


   
and you, sir, got played !  well done, Mr. President.  You just earned my vote for four more years.
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1355 on: April 29, 2011, 12:43:34 PM »
No... people like 333 are responsible.

Trump wouldn't have even brought it up if he didn't get the idea from the kooks out there.

Trump brought it up because it kept his name in the headlines.

Just like his feud with whoopi or rosie.
Just like his tiff with Ivana on divorcing just in time.
Just like the many stunts to promote his hotel.
Just like his involvement with football and boxing.
Just like his Kadaffi business.
Just like him suing people who under-estimate his net worth.
Just like his fake 2000 and 1988 presidential runs.

Hell, the man got involved with wrestlemani.  he did the comedy central roast.  he's trying like hell to get deniro or seinfeld into a feud now.

he's a media whore who does anything for attention.  Watch and see.  In 18 months, he'll be all over the news for a feud with some new celebrity or cause, and everyone will be so surprised again.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1356 on: April 29, 2011, 12:50:59 PM »
Trump brought it up because it kept his name in the headlines.

Just like his feud with whoopi or rosie.
Just like his tiff with Ivana on divorcing just in time.
Just like the many stunts to promote his hotel.
Just like his involvement with football and boxing.
Just like his Kadaffi business.
Just like him suing people who under-estimate his net worth.
Just like his fake 2000 and 1988 presidential runs.

Hell, the man got involved with wrestlemani.  he did the comedy central roast.  he's trying like hell to get deniro or seinfeld into a feud now.

he's a media whore who does anything for attention.  Watch and see.  In 18 months, he'll be all over the news for a feud with some new celebrity or cause, and everyone will be so surprised again.



He's a businessman. He hosted WrestleManias 4 and 5 and was part of WrestleMania 23 (shaving Vince McMahon's head). He was in the front row at WrestleMania 7.

And, for all you bodybuilding fans, it was his Taj Mahal that hosted the first WBF Championship.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1357 on: April 29, 2011, 12:53:12 PM »
No... people like 333 are responsible.

Trump wouldn't have even brought it up if he didn't get the idea from the kooks out there.

wow !    To quote DT - if that is true, that me, 33 from getbig - is responsible for Bama releasing the long form BC -

I AM VERY PROUD OF MYSELF FOR WHAT I ACCOMPLISHED


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1358 on: April 29, 2011, 12:55:47 PM »
He's a businessman. He hosted WrestleManias 4 and 5 and was part of WrestleMania 23 (shaving Vince McMahon's head). He was in the front row at WrestleMania 7.

And, for all you bodybuilding fans, it was his Taj Mahal that hosted the first WBF Championship.

Not just a businessman.  A brilliant businessman.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1359 on: April 29, 2011, 01:14:06 PM »
wow !    To quote DT - if that is true, that me, 33 from getbig - is responsible for Bama releasing the long form BC -

I AM VERY PROUD OF MYSELF FOR WHAT I ACCOMPLISHED


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BUT YOU WERE LIKE WRONG ???

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1360 on: April 29, 2011, 01:18:32 PM »
BUT YOU WERE LIKE WRONG ???

Wrong about what?   Bama kept this hidden for 3 years.   He could have put this to bed years ago and fomented a cottage industry by his actions. 

Personally, I have been laughing my ass off at this.   Its like the OJ case all over again.       

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« Reply #1361 on: April 29, 2011, 01:21:07 PM »
Wrong about what?   Bama kept this hidden for 3 years.   He could have put this to bed years ago and fomented a cottage industry by his actions. 

Personally, I have been laughing my ass off at this.   Its like the OJ case all over again.       

dude you like said he wasnt born in the US......and he was.. and he proved it.. again.. dude he just cock slapped your dumb ass.. told you to take your thread and shove it up your ass

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1362 on: April 29, 2011, 01:25:54 PM »
dude you like said he wasnt born in the US......and he was.. and he proved it.. again.. dude he just cock slapped your dumb ass.. told you to take your thread and shove it up your ass


Yawn - he fueld these CT's by acting like an arrogant baby all on to himself.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1363 on: April 29, 2011, 01:33:10 PM »
Friday, April 29, 2011
OUT OF ORDER: Obama’s Non-sequential Certificate Number Based On Registration Office Location, Not Birth Date



Contrary to recent implications, new evidence supports that Barack Obama was not actually delivered in Kapi’olani hospital, as records suggest, but, rather, he was merely examined there by a private practitioner, David Sinclair, in the days following his birth, which triggered the validation of an administratively issued “Certificate of Live Birth” registration, not a hospital generated birth certificate representing an actual delivery.

By Pen Johannson and Dan Crosby
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http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html




The evidence herein is somewhat belaboring and intensive, but necessary to understand in order to place Obama’s recently revealed, Health Department-issued “Certificate of Live Birth” Registration in its accurate context.

We will begin by simply assuming that this "Certificate of Live Birth" document is an authentic record and that no conspiracy was required in order to create it. However, we can also conclude it was not released by Kapi’olani hospital because it remains undocumented that Obama was not actually born in Kapi’olani hospital. Rather, this document was released by the Hawaiian Department of Health based on that state's long-standing municipal vital records laws which mandate the creation of such an official birth record based, not only upon indigenous birth occurrences, but also residential circumstances of the parents preceding the birth.

This evidence shows that baby Obama was examined at Kapi’olani within days after his birth by a physician able to legally attest an original birth record issued, not by the hospital, but by the Hawaiian Department of Health (HDOH).

Kapi’olani hospital has never issued or confirmed an original record for the birth of Barack Obama within its facility to date. However, the HDOH is able to legally name the hospital in its original "Certificate of Live Birth" Regisration based on the fact that, if it is the location of the first examination of a newborn child by a physician there, the doctor triggers the birth location in absence of any other birth location information.

Simply put, Obama was not born in Kapi'olani, but he was examined for the first time there.

This week, Obama released a long-form version of a Health Department issued “Certificate of Live Birth” document which adds merely three more pieces of information about his natal biography than we previously knew before from the fallow “Certification of Live Birth” heavily lauded by his defenders as the holy grail of his eligibility.

Now, with this new and improved ‘Holier Grail”, historical information from the U.S. Department of Health shows that this document only detracts from Obama’s effort to confirm his eligibility and that it would best be described as a ‘Long-form Certificate of Live Birth Registration’ created by administrative procedure as a result of legal confirmation, not a hospital as a result of an actual delivery.

The information provided in the recently revealed HDOH "Certificate of Live Birth" Registration document, when combined with an understanding of Hawaiian vital statistics records laws, municipal reporting procedures, and federal Natality reporting guidelines, shows that this “Certificate of Live Birth” registration was legally produced by the HDOH without Obama necessarily actually being delivered in the hospital named within it, and that the doctor, by affixing his signature, was only required to attest an original record based on his examination of the newborn Obama Jr., not as an attending (birthing) physician present during the actual delivery, but rather as the first physician to actually see the child alive and in good health.

This evidence supports the fact that the on-going, original questions of Obama's actual birth location remain decisively unanswered.

TRICKY NUMBERS

Since the 2008 disclosure of Obama’s other “only official” Hawaiian “Certification of Live Birth” just days before being ensconced to the Oval Office, many continue to wonder why Obama’s birth registration number is out of sequence with at least two other registration numbers issued by the Hawaiian Department of Health in the days after Obama’s birth.

This evidence reveals that Obama’s non-sequential birth registration number is the result of the birth being registered in a location not used by the hospital Obama claims to have been born in, rendering the possibility that his recent “Certificate of Live Birth” Registration issued by the Hawaii Health Department is merely a record of birth registration legally issued by the Health Department under HRS 338-17.8, after being examined by a doctor at Kapi’olani hospital who could attest to his live birth, post-delivery.

However, recently discovered sources show that Obama’s birth registration number was assigned by the state’s main office of the Hawaiian Department of Health after his birth registration originated in a location not used by the hospital to register births actually occurring within its facility.

Documentation provided by Volume 1 of the “1961 Vital Statistics Report of the United States” further supports the factual plausibility that Obama’s birth occurred in a geographic location other than Hawaii and was not registered in the traditional manner as other children born in the hospital, locally. This evidence supports the claim that his non-sequential birth registration number is indeed the result of his birth being registered in an alternative local office, not the typical office used by the hospital..

Recall, according to copies of birth records released by the hospital, the Nordyke’s twin girls were delivered just 19 hours after Obama was born, supposedly just down the hall from where Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham was allegedly staying in Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital on Saturday afternoon of August 5th, 1961. The Nordyke twins, Susan and Gretchen, were issued sequential birth registration numbers, 151-61-10637 and 151-61-10638, respectively.

The Nordyke's released two photostatic copies of their hospital generated "Certificates of Live Birth" in 2009. Contrarily, Obama released a Health Department generated version of the same document last week. The differences are significant and in need of investigation because the Nordyke's document an actual delivery within the hospital while Obama's documents only a birth registration by the HDOH after he was examined by a doctor from the named hospital.

With the revelation of a belated image of an alleged, original 1961 “Certificate of Live Birth” registration record, released by the Hawaiian Department of Health, not the hospital, it is now unanimously accepted that Obama’s birth registration number is 151-61-10641, which is also confirmed by its updated version of 151-1961-10641 on the previously exalted “Certification of Live Birth” and, most importantly, which is a number larger than both the twins even though he was born chronologically before them.

First, we need to recall that Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 states the following:

(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the Director of Health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

As we all have become familiar, the statute explicitly states that the Director of Health in 1961 was obligated to issue a birth certificate “provided that proof had been submitted to the Director of Health that the parents had declared Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth…or adoption of such child”, regardless of the location of that birth.

We know Obama’s parents lived in Hawaii for at least one year preceding his birth or adoption. Therefore, this law would have applied if he were born elsewhere or adopted and was taken to Hawaii where the birth was registered.

Notice the dates of the signatures on the newly released Certificate of Live Birth registration issued by the Health Department. The alleged signature of Obama’s mother was documented on Monday, August 7, 1961, the earliest day available to sign the registration. Obama was born the evening of Friday, August 4th, which means government offices were closed on Saturday the 5th, and Sunday the 6th, but the hospital was not.

The Nordyke twins were born on Saturday, August 5th, but their “Certificates of Live Birth” were not attested by the attending physician of record, assigned numbers and registered by the Department of Health until Thursday, August 11th. Obama’s birth was registered on Tuesday, August 8th even though it occurred just hours before the Nordyke’s. However, both documents for all three births were signed by the parents on the same day, Monday, August 7th.

This week, Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth” was released by the Department of Health, not the alleged hospital of record. Although the Health Department was obligated to provide him with a “Certificate of Live Birth” in 1961, via the administrative process mandated by HRS 338-17.8, his birth would not actually have to occur in the Hospital stated on the record in order for this record to be created. However, as provided by HRS 338-5, after baby Obama had been examined by an “attending” physician sometime between August 5th and August 8th at the hospital, the Department of Health was able to create the official record of birth after the doctor’s signed approval, containing the name of the hospital where the examination took place.

Essentially, the Hawaiian Department of Health does not issue an official birth certificate under the provision of HRS 338-17.8 until a board certified physician has examined the child in an official medical facility of record.

So, how was Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth” assigned a larger number than his birth-mates?

Section 5-8 of the ‘Vital Statistics of the United States: Volume 1 – Natality” report states:

Sampling of Birth Records

The manner in which records are numbered greatly reduces the sampling variability of totals for geographic areas. Records are numbered in the primary state offices of vital statistics as they are received from the local offices. The assignment of the last digit in the number is not selective and systematic sampling of even-numbered records may be assumed to be unbiased. Furthermore, because the records are always in geographic order BEFORE numbering, twice the same count of births occurring in the great majority of counties is the same as the corresponding figure based on all records.

The key words are, "records are numbered in the primary state offices as they are received and are always in geographic order before numbering." Essentially, this means that Obama's birth registration, which was received by the main office before the Nordyke twins', was assigned a higher number because it was received by the main office in geographic order, not chronological order. Obama's birth was not registered in the same office as the Nordyke twins' birth.

This confirms that, in 1961, the main office of the Hawaiian Department of Health assigned registration numbers based on the order of reception of birth registrations from various local registration offices, not from the hospitals of the births. Therefore, if Obama’s birth registration was included with the Nordyke twins and other births occurring at Kapiolani in same HDOH birth registration office, we should expect the Nordyke's numbers to be assigned in order of reception at the same time as Obama's!!

However, since it is likely that Obama's birth was not registered in the same office as the Nordyke twins, who were actually born in Kapi’olani hospital, Obama’s birth registration was assigned a number based on its "geographic order", not its chronological order, of registration.

If Obama was actually born in Kapi’olani hospital on August 4th, 1961, why was his birth registered in a different geographic location as indicated by the non-sequential number, on August 8th, which would therefore trigger a registration number out of order with the Nordyke twins' birth of August 5th who were registered with all the other births in Kapi’olani?

DIFFERENT LOCAL REGISTRARS

Obama’s 'Certificate of Live Birth' Registration released by the Hawaiian Department of Health is signed by a different local registrar than is shown on the Nordyke’s Hospital version of the Certificate of Live Birth. A different local registrar worked in each branch office in which births was registered. Obama's birth was registered in an office which is not the office use by Kapi’olani to register births occurring in its facility.

The name of a local registrar is not associated with other birth certificates for births which actually occurred at Kapi’olani and which were attested by physicians who actually delivered those births. This registrar worked in a branch office not used by Kapi’olani to register births. This is why Obama’s birth registration number is out of sequence with other births at the same time as his.

OUT OF ORDER TOO: THE NEWSPAPER ANNOUNCEMENTS

Last month, The Daily Pen’s Dan Crosby, published the results of his investigation of the procedures used to publish birth announcements in Hawaii. He found historical evidence which supports that fact that Obama’s birth did not occur in Kapi’olani, but which was registered in a different local office after he was examined by a doctor at Kapi’olani on August 7th, 1961.

Crosby went to Hawaii to research and investigate the cavalcade of ambiguous information related to Obama’s covert natal history including the origins and protocols used to publish the birth announcements in 1961. He focused on the manner in which the Hawaiian Department of Health and local hospitals coordinated vital statistics information and how the chain of information from the Hospital to the Hawaiian Department of Health resulted in “Weekly Health Bureau Statistics” announcements published in the local papers.

Crosby found evidence that the order in which the announcements were published was not random or chronological. In fact, he discovered they were published by the order of birth registration numbers assigned by the main Office of Vital Records which, in turn, were based on reception from various local registration branches. He discovered that, regardless of when the birth may have occurred, the registration number, assigned by the geographic order of the registration offices, determined the order of the announcements.

This is why Obama’s birth announcements occur near the bottom of each column in each newspaper even though there are births which occurred before and after his but which are published above his in the papers. This is because the births published above his all occurred in the same place and were registered in the same office and then passed to the central main office. The numbers were, therefore, ordered by the main office of the Health department in reference to their geographic registration order, not their chronological occurrence.

An investigation of the addresses of the birth registrations reveals that they migrate proximally to either a medical facility or to a local registration office. This is logical because most pregnant women would desire a hospital in close proximity once contractions began.

The birth announcements and ordering based on geographic registration location are shown below as they appear in the two versions of the newspapers.

Mr. and Mrs. Samuel K. Haas Sr. 849-A 11th Ave. 8/4/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Charles J. Staley 1319 Anapa St. 8/6/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Richard R. Kitson Apt. 11, 1635 Clark St. 8/6/1961
Mr. and Mrs. George P. Ayau Sr. 87-143 Lillana St., Malll 7/31/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Thaddeus J. Raymond 1371 Haloa Drive 7/30/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Robert I. Arakawa 935-B Hausten St., 8/1/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Y. Takahashi 56 Nanea Ave, Wahiawa 8/2/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Allington K. Brown Maunawill Road, Kallua 8/2/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Cirillo V. Caperto 918 Puuhale Road 8/3/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Samuel L. M. Mokuahi Sr 732 Laukea St. 8/2/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Peter C. Kamealoha Jr. 441 McNeill St. 8/3/1961
Mr. and Mrs. John R. Clifford Sr. 2624 Maunawai Place 8/6/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Edward W. Walker 1660 S. King St., 8/7/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Wallace M. Durkin 3813 Radford Drive 8/7/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Mike M. Nagaishi 2687 Gardenia 8/6/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Glenn E. Earnest 1258 Wilhelmina Rise 8/6/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Edward S. H. Chun 45-440 Akimala St., Kaheohe 8/5/1961
Mr. and Mrs. John R. Waidelich 937 18th Ave. 8/5/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Emmett P. Simpson 2752 Kahiti St. 8/5/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Melvin K. F. Liu 45-548 Keaahala Road, Kaheohe 8/5/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Richard D. Wright 91-939 Kalapu St., Ewa Beach, Ewa 8/5/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy 8/4/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Andrew A. M. Hatchle 2420 Kaululaau St. 8/4/1961
Mr. and Mrs Harry Y.W. Wong 463 Lawelwe St. 8/4/1961
Mr. and Mrs. Ernesto Kim

Note that the announcements are in the exact same order in both papers. Also, notice Obama’s birth registration announcement nearer the bottom of the order in the last group while the birth dates appear to be grouped rather than ordered from the top of the column to the bottom. This indicates they are indeed grouped by geographic registration occurrence as they are received in batches from each branch location by the main Health Department office, as prescribed by the guidelines described in the NVSD report. Otherwise, the birth order would be published based on either alphabetical or chronological order, which they are not, as obviously shown here. This is an indication that Obama’s birth registration was received by the main office of the Hawaiian Department of Health from a location other than the office used to register births occurring in Kapi’olani.

Obama’s DOH “Certificate of Live Birth” Registration omits the “Amendment section” from its lower margin which is present on the hospital generated version and contains space available for amendments, dates of examinations and medical information. It is also used to show the signatures of the Director of Health and the Deputy Registrar. This is absent from Obama’s HDOH document because it was not generated by the hospital and this doctor was not present at his birth and did not preside over later amendments, such as Obama’s adoption by Lolo Soetoro.

CONCLUSIONS

Obama’s birth was not registered in the same Health Department office as the Nordyke twins and nine other births occurring the week of July 30 – August 5th at Kapi’olani hospital.

The publication of Obama’s birth announcement near the bottom of the columns of the two newspapers, printed lower than announcements for births which occurred after his, indicates that his birth registration document was received and ordered in accordance with geographic location, not chronological order or alphabetic order. This, therefore, indicates that Obama's birth actually occurred in a location other than Kapi'olani hospital.

Dr. David Sinclair was not present during the delivery of Barack Obama. However, since he was the first physician to examine baby Obama and his mother at Kapi’olani on August 7th or 8th, he is legally bound to record his signature as the attending physician of record at that time. Per HRS 338, the naming of the hospital is subsequent to the naming of the doctor where the examination, not the birth, took place.

Since Dr. Sinclair was not the birthing physician, he could not officially attest to Obama’s birth weight, which is absent from the HDOH Certificate of Live Birth Registration.

The name of local registrar is different on Obama’s HDOH Certificate of Live Birth Registration because Obama’s birth was not registered in the same branch office of the Vital Statistics office as births occurring at Kapi’olani.

As testified by the 1961 Vital Statistics of the United States Report, Obama’s birth registration number is non-sequential with other births at the same time because it was assigned by the main office of the HDOH after it was received from one of multiple registration offices in Hawaii. The HDOH assigned Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth a registration number based on its geographic registration location, not chronological occurrence in a hospital.

Obama’s recently revealed Certificate of Live Birth was created and issued by the Hawaiian Department of Health through administrative procedures based on HRS 338 and Administrative Rules. It was not generated by any hospital and was only attested by an attending physician after an examination of the newborn Obama qualified the HDOH to issue an original birth certificate provided by HRS 338-17.8.

Therefore, the geographic location of Obama’s actual emergence from his mother’s womb remains a mystery.

Regardless, the identity of Obama’s foreign father is confirmed in this newly released Certificate of Live Birth Registration, which disqualifies Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of the presidency even if he was shown by a hospital generated birth certificate to have been born in Hawaii.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1364 on: April 29, 2011, 01:50:19 PM »
wow !    To quote DT - if that is true, that me, 33 from getbig - is responsible for Bama releasing the long form BC -

I AM VERY PROUD OF MYSELF FOR WHAT I ACCOMPLISHED


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I said people LIKE you... you know... kooks.

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« Reply #1365 on: April 29, 2011, 01:58:33 PM »

Yawn - he fueld these CT's by acting like an arrogant baby all on to himself.   

well he released his birth cert and yall dumb shits said it wasnt enough.. you can spin all you want.. jokes on you cha cha

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« Reply #1366 on: April 29, 2011, 02:12:01 PM »

Yawn - he fueld these CT's by acting like an arrogant baby all on to himself.   


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« Reply #1367 on: April 29, 2011, 02:18:26 PM »
Why dont you apply the same standard to 911 truthers?   

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« Reply #1368 on: April 29, 2011, 03:35:16 PM »
Why dont you apply the same standard to 911 truthers?   
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« Reply #1369 on: April 29, 2011, 03:35:54 PM »
Trump brought it up because it kept his name in the headlines.

Just like his feud with whoopi or rosie.
Just like his tiff with Ivana on divorcing just in time.
Just like the many stunts to promote his hotel.
Just like his involvement with football and boxing.
Just like his Kadaffi business.
Just like him suing people who under-estimate his net worth.
Just like his fake 2000 and 1988 presidential runs.

Hell, the man got involved with wrestlemani.  he did the comedy central roast.  he's trying like hell to get deniro or seinfeld into a feud now.

he's a media whore who does anything for attention.  Watch and see.  In 18 months, he'll be all over the news for a feud with some new celebrity or cause, and everyone will be so surprised again.



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« Reply #1370 on: April 29, 2011, 03:39:15 PM »
wow !    To quote DT - if that is true, that me, 33 from getbig - is responsible for Bama releasing the long form BC -

I AM VERY PROUD OF MYSELF FOR WHAT I ACCOMPLISHED


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« Reply #1371 on: April 29, 2011, 03:42:18 PM »
Why dont you apply the same standard to 911 truthers?   

because we all KNOW the 911 truthers are nuts...the birthers are rational and pretend they are for political gain

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1372 on: April 29, 2011, 03:43:28 PM »
because we all KNOW the 911 truthers are nuts...

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1373 on: April 29, 2011, 03:58:08 PM »
another thought.  drump was a lifetime lib until 2009.

If the popular political climate was liberalism, and it was all about proving mccain was an illegal, I'm sure Trump would have hopped on that train too.

He probably would have enjoyed it too, to be honest.  the guy's capitalizing on the ignorance and hate and fear that people have.  He's NOT SURE if he wants the job of saving america from evil obama?  F him.  Seriously.  You DONT EVEN KNOW if you want to save your country, even if you know you have the power? 

Repubs should look at it that way.  This lifetime lib doesn't like obama, but he's not even sure if he wants to spend his time fixing it.  Unreal. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1374 on: April 29, 2011, 09:07:47 PM »
another thought.  drump was a lifetime lib until 2009.

If the popular political climate was liberalism, and it was all about proving mccain was an illegal, I'm sure Trump would have hopped on that train too.

He probably would have enjoyed it too, to be honest.  the guy's capitalizing on the ignorance and hate and fear that people have.  He's NOT SURE if he wants the job of saving america from evil obama?  F him.  Seriously.  You DONT EVEN KNOW if you want to save your country, even if you know you have the power? 

Repubs should look at it that way.  This lifetime lib doesn't like obama, but he's not even sure if he wants to spend his time fixing it.  Unreal. 

exactly....Trump is an opportunist plain and simple