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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1375 on: April 29, 2011, 10:47:41 PM »
exactly....Trump is an opportunist plain and simple

So, what it does it say about the president of the united states, when he lets a reality tv show freak with bad hair looking to cash in on an opportunity, elevate himself to presidential status.

If you cant see how that makes obama look like a joke, your not paying attention.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1376 on: April 30, 2011, 08:46:33 AM »
Obama's father forced out at Harvard
The university was concerned about his personal life and finances, records reveal. | AP Photo
By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 4/29/11 8:58 PM EDT



BOSTON — President Barack Obama’s father was forced to leave Harvard University before completing his Ph.D. in economics because the school was concerned about his personal life and finances, according to newly public immigration records.

Harvard had asked the Immigration and Naturalization Service to delay a request by Barack Hussein Obama Sr. to extend his stay in the U.S., “until they decided what action they could take in order to get rid of him,” immigration official M.F. McKeon wrote in a June 1964 memo.

Harvard administrators, the memo stated, “were having difficulty with his financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”

An earlier INS memo from McKeon said that while the elder Obama had passed his exams and was entitled on academic grounds to stay and complete his thesis, the school was going to try and “cook something up to ease him out.”

“They are planning on telling him that they will not give him any money, and that he had better return to Kenya and prepare his thesis at home,” the memo stated.

In May 1964, David D. Henry, director of Harvard’s international office, wrote to Obama to say that, while he had completed his formal course work, the economics department and the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences didn’t have the money to support him.

“We have, therefore, come to the conclusion that you should terminate your stay in the United States and return to Kenya to carry on your research and the writing of your thesis,” Henry’s letter stated.

Obama’s request for an extended stay was denied by the INS. He left Harvard and - divorced from president’s mother - returned to his native Kenya in July 1964. He did not complete his Ph.D.

The immigration memos, contained in the elder Obama’s Immigration and Naturalization file, were given to a Boston Globe reporter in 2009 through a Freedom of Information request. The papers were first made public Wednesday by The Arizona Independent, a weekly newspaper. The Associated Press obtained copies of them on Friday.

Harvard issued a statement Friday saying that it could not find in its own records anything to support the accounts given in the INS memos.

“While we cannot verify accounts of conversations that occurred nearly 50 years ago, a review of our existing files did not find any support for either the language or the implied intent described by the U.S. government official in the government documents,” the statement read.

When Obama was attending Harvard, the school faced serious constraints in financing research by international graduate students, the university also said.

Department of Homeland Security spokesman Matt Chandler declined to comment Friday, saying the department does not comment on specific immigration cases.

Concerns about Obama’s personal life while he had been studying in the U.S. had been raised previously, according to the INS documents.

In 1961, while he was an undergraduate student at the University of Hawaii, the school’s foreign student adviser called an immigration official and said Obama had recently married StanleyAnn Dunham - the president’s mother - despite already having a wife in Kenya.

According to a memo written by an INS official in Honolulu, the adviser said Obama had been “running around with several girls since he first arrived here and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways.”

Obama told the adviser that he had divorced his wife in Kenya.

He told the president’s mother the same thing, though she would later learn it was a lie.

Obama worked for an oil company and as a government economist after returning to Africa, but his personal and professional life would later deteriorate. He died in a car crash in 1982, when the future president was 21 and a student at Columbia University.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53968.html#ixzz1L1PRE2K9


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1377 on: April 30, 2011, 09:09:19 AM »
So, what it does it say about the president of the united states, when he lets a reality tv show freak with bad hair looking to cash in on an opportunity, elevate himself to presidential status.

If you cant see how that makes obama look like a joke, your not paying attention.


how was Obama responsible for elevating Trump to presidential status????????????????????????...trump has played this game before with flirting with running for president and each time he has gotten extensive media coverage only to pull out....he did this in 88' and in 2000 I think......was Obama around then>>???????????

you dumbass conservatives on here always betray your lack of objectivity and hang yourselves

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1378 on: April 30, 2011, 09:11:56 AM »

how was Obama responsible for elevating Trump to presidential status????????????????????????...trump has played this game before with flirting with running for president and each time he has gotten extensive media coverage only to pull out....he did this in 88' and in 2000 I think......was Obama around then>>???????????

you dumbass conservatives on here always betray your lack of objectivity and hang yourselves

Than why did he only release this now?   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1379 on: April 30, 2011, 09:16:41 AM »
Obama's father forced out at Harvard
The university was concerned about his personal life and finances, records reveal. | AP Photo
By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 4/29/11 8:58 PM EDT



BOSTON — President Barack Obama’s father was forced to leave Harvard University before completing his Ph.D. in economics because the school was concerned about his personal life and finances, according to newly public immigration records.

Harvard had asked the Immigration and Naturalization Service to delay a request by Barack Hussein Obama Sr. to extend his stay in the U.S., “until they decided what action they could take in order to get rid of him,” immigration official M.F. McKeon wrote in a June 1964 memo.

Harvard administrators, the memo stated, “were having difficulty with his financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”

An earlier INS memo from McKeon said that while the elder Obama had passed his exams and was entitled on academic grounds to stay and complete his thesis, the school was going to try and “cook something up to ease him out.”

“They are planning on telling him that they will not give him any money, and that he had better return to Kenya and prepare his thesis at home,” the memo stated.

In May 1964, David D. Henry, director of Harvard’s international office, wrote to Obama to say that, while he had completed his formal course work, the economics department and the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences didn’t have the money to support him.

“We have, therefore, come to the conclusion that you should terminate your stay in the United States and return to Kenya to carry on your research and the writing of your thesis,” Henry’s letter stated.

Obama’s request for an extended stay was denied by the INS. He left Harvard and - divorced from president’s mother - returned to his native Kenya in July 1964. He did not complete his Ph.D.

The immigration memos, contained in the elder Obama’s Immigration and Naturalization file, were given to a Boston Globe reporter in 2009 through a Freedom of Information request. The papers were first made public Wednesday by The Arizona Independent, a weekly newspaper. The Associated Press obtained copies of them on Friday.

Harvard issued a statement Friday saying that it could not find in its own records anything to support the accounts given in the INS memos.

“While we cannot verify accounts of conversations that occurred nearly 50 years ago, a review of our existing files did not find any support for either the language or the implied intent described by the U.S. government official in the government documents,” the statement read.

When Obama was attending Harvard, the school faced serious constraints in financing research by international graduate students, the university also said.

Department of Homeland Security spokesman Matt Chandler declined to comment Friday, saying the department does not comment on specific immigration cases.

Concerns about Obama’s personal life while he had been studying in the U.S. had been raised previously, according to the INS documents.

In 1961, while he was an undergraduate student at the University of Hawaii, the school’s foreign student adviser called an immigration official and said Obama had recently married StanleyAnn Dunham - the president’s mother - despite already having a wife in Kenya.

According to a memo written by an INS official in Honolulu, the adviser said Obama had been “running around with several girls since he first arrived here and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways.”

Obama told the adviser that he had divorced his wife in Kenya.

He told the president’s mother the same thing, though she would later learn it was a lie.

Obama worked for an oil company and as a government economist after returning to Africa, but his personal and professional life would later deteriorate. He died in a car crash in 1982, when the future president was 21 and a student at Columbia University.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53968.html#ixzz1L1PRE2K9



Jesus Christ..first, you are still trying your best to de-legitimize Obama but now that you can't go after him about his BC you have started these really stupid and dumbass threads attacking his father who has been dead 30 years......

second, the fact that he was a playboy in college and was running around with different women shows that he was a normal guy....thats all..ALL guys in college are playboys and are banging different chicks...so what are they trying to prove here?....its just more personal attacks...

third, If we all had to be judged by the things our fathers did, NONE OF US would have any legitimacy..I know my own dad wasn't a saint.....he was banging a bunch of chicks as well...but he took care of us an my mother as well..

come on and stop with this silliness...you are really debasing yourself and its becoming embarrassing to watch


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1380 on: April 30, 2011, 09:50:58 AM »

Washington Times report: Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
April 29th, 2011 6:45 pm PT .

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In an exclusive April 29, 2011 interview on ExopoliticsTV with Alfred Lambremont Webre, Robert Stanley, weekly correspondent for the Washington Times investigative radio, states that the purported birth certificate released by U.S. President Barack H. Obama on April 27, 2011 is a forensic forgery.  In the interview, Mr. Stanley's statement is accompanied by an on-camera demonstration of various forgeries within the nine overlaid digital layers of the birth certificate document as released on the White House website.

Earlier on April 29, 2011, Mr. Stanley reported the breaking news regarding the forensic fraud in Mr. Obama's newly released birth certificate on Washington Times investigative radio's America's Morning News while being interviewed by reporters John McCaslin and Amy Holmes, also a commentator for CNN.

LISTEN TO BREAKING NEWS

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/MP3/breaking%20news.mp3

During his ExopoliticsTV interview Mr. Stanley indicated that the White House has in fact taken down Mr. Obama’s alleged recently released birth certificate from the White House website overnight (see here), although the White House has left a copy of the alleged birth certificate of Mr. Obama here.

As of this writing, Mr. Stanley stated there had been no overt comment from the White House other than the taking of the birth certificate offline.  Neither officials of the Hawaii state birth registrar nor of the Honolulu hospital where Mr. Obama allegedly was born have, as yet, commented.

Mr. Stanley stated that the headquarters of Donald Trump had put him in touch directly with Mr. Trump, and that he had forwarded the evidence of forensic forgery in Mr. Obama’s birth certificate directly to Mr. Trump. 

Donald Trump, a possible contender for the 2012 Republican nomination for U.S. President, stated on April 27, 2011 that he considers himself instrumental in forcing Mr. Obama to release the alleged birth certificate, and now apparent forensic fraud.

View Interview with Robert Stanley on forensic fraud on Obama birth certificate

Readers can view the interview of Robert Stanley by Alfred Lambremont Webre on forensic fraud and the Obama birth certificate in the video embedded in the article above or at the following URL:

VIEW INTERVIEW



During his 25 minute ExopoliticsTV interview, Mr. Stanley graphically demonstrates using copies of various of the nine overlaid digital layers within the forensically fraudulent birth certificate of Mr. Obama that the birth certificate was assembled as a forged document, using components of many other documents. 

Robert Stanley’s conclusions congruent with other independent research on forensic fraud in Obama birth certificate

Robert M. Stanley’s conclusions are also congruent with other independent analyses of Mr. Obama’s alleged birth certificate released April 27, 2011, including the following:

Barack Obama's Birth Certificate is a Digitally Layered Photoshop Fake



 

Proof Obama's 4/27/11 "Long Form Certificate of Birth" is Forged!



 

Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama



 

Other anomalies in the forensically forged Obama birth certificate

Researchers have identified a number of anomalies on the alleged birth certificate of Mr. Obama, apart from the evidence of forensic forgery provided by analysis of its nine layers.

One researcher states, "Look at the hospital name on this document [Mr. Obama's alleged birth certificate]. The hospital had a different name in 1961, it was not named Kapiolani Maternity and Gynocological Hospital, it was called Kaokiolani Children's Hospital.  It did not get the Kapiolani name until the mid-1970s when they merged. Kenya was not called "Kenya" in 1961 it was called "The British East Africa Protectorate" at the time Obama was born and this document was supposedly printed.  Then in 1963 it became "The Dominion of Kenya." Then later on became the "Republic of Kenya."

Another researcher states, "I’m not going to say that the information on the document is bogus, but I can definitely, without hesitation, say that the document was originally a two-layer piece. The top layer is the ‘black’ part that came from a scanner as a grayscale scan. It was converted to black and white and the white part was made transparent.

"That was dropped onto a generic green watermark background, which is what makes it look official. But that was NOT on the original document as scanned. This is very evident by the white haloing around everything black. It is also extremely evident that a layer was dropped onto the green background because the green marks are very crisp in the areas around the edges of the image, but are very blurred where the black image block covers it.

"Now keep in mind that before the green background was added, the original scan could have easily been altered, dates or names changed. I’m not saying it was. I’m just saying it’s a 100% fact that it could have been. So, this document as we see it is still not proof of anything. I could easily recreate this document with someone else’s original Hawaii birth certificate and a generic watermark background."

Another researcher writes, "Jerome Corsi writes that the issue represents the 'Rosetta Stone' of deciphering both Obama’s previously released short-form Certification of Live Birth and the newly released purported copy of his long-form birth certificate.”

"It centers around the fact that two twins born in the same Kapi’olani hospital listed on the Obama document the day after Obama was purportedly born actually have birth certificate numbers lower than Obama. The number should be lower on the Obama certificate if he was born before the twins.

As Corsi explains, “Susan Nordyke, the first twin, was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

“Gretchen Nordyke, the second twin, was born at 2:17 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.”

“Yet, according to the Certification of Live Birth displayed by FactCheck.org during the 2008 presidential campaign – and now according to the long-form birth certificate the White House released today – Barack Obama was given a higher certificate number than the Nordykes.”

“Note, Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.”

Why was a forged Obama Hawaii birth certificate necessary?

The forgery of Barack Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate appears to have been made necessary by U.S. immigration and naturalization law in the period between 1953 and 1986.

Between Dec. 24, 1953 and Nov. 13, 1986, an individual born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent married to an alien could be a “natural born citizen” only if the U.S. citizen parent had lived in the U.S. continuously for 10 years, five of which were after their 14th birthday.

Barack Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born on November 29, 1942.  Obama was allegedly born on August 4, 1961.  Thus, by prevailing U.S. law, Barack Obama could not have been a “natural born U.S. citizen.” If he was born in Kenya, Mr. Obama's mother was only 18 and could not have lived in the U.S. five years after her 14th birthday at the time of his birth.

Thus, it became a political necessity for Barack Obama to have a U.S. birth certificate.  A forged birth certificate may have been produced in this case on April 27, 2011 because a genuine one does not exist despite the fact that the President was born in Hawaii or does not exist because he was born overseas.

For Barack Obama to have become a U.S. citizen under prevailing U.S. law at the time of his birth in 1961, his mother would have had to petition a U.S. immigration court for a naturalized U.S. citizenship status, which would have been readily granted to him because he was born of an American mother.

However, by the tragic timing of his birth taking place a few months short of his mother’s having lived in the U.S. for five years continuously after her 14th birthday, Barack Obama never achieved “natural born citizen” status and was as a matter of law constitutionally ineligible for the U.S. Presidency.

It is an established fact that Mr. Obama acquired Indonesian citizenship when his mother married Indonesian national Lolo Soetoro, who adopted Mr. Obama and moved his family to Indonesia in 1967.  Indonesia requires that its citizens renounce all other citizenships.

There is no record, however, that after she sent Mr. Obama to live with his grandparents in Hawaii in 1971 or divorced Mr. Soetero Mr. Obama’s mother ever petitioned for U.S. nationalization of Mr. Obama.  Thus, it is most plausible that Mr. Obama was an Indonesian citizen when he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii in 1971; when he matriculated to Occidental College in Hawaii in 1979; when he ran for the U.S. Senate in January 2003; and when he declared for U.S. President on February 10, 2007.

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Thus, as a matter of law, even a valid birth certificate showing that Mr. Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Hawaii would not suffice to grant Barack Obama the “natural born” status he requires to be U.S. President, absent a special statue of the U.S. Congress as was granted his 2008 Presidential rival John McCain.

Ironically, in 1986, this U.S. immigration and naturalization law was changed to grant John McCain “natural born” status despite his having been born in the U.S. Panama Canal Zone.  The law change permits an individual born overseas to a U.S. parent married to an alien to acquire “natural born” status when born overseas in specific U.S. related facilities and territories.

Why such a clumsy forensic forgery in a Presidential birth certificate?

During his interview, Mr. Stanley was asked to speculate on the reason for such a clumsy forensic forgery in a Presidential birth certificate, as many independent researchers are speculating on this question.  A recent poll indicates that more than 60% of U.S. adults believe that Barack Obama was not born in the U.S., thus potentially disqualifying him to be U.S. President.

Mr. Stanley responded that there are many possible scenarios for a clumsy forensic forgery.  One scenario was that Mr. Obama was “set up” intentionally by other parties to release a fraudulent birth certificate to embarrass him politically.  Another scenario was that the parties that colluded in producing the fraudulent birth certificate were careless and produced a second-rate forgery that could be broken by anyone with a working knowledge of Adobe Illustrator.

Is Barack Obama the next Richard Nixon?

In his ExopoliticsTV interview, Robert Stanley calls for a Congressional investigation of the apparent forensically fraudulent birth certificate of Mr. Obama. The White House, and federal agencies such as the FBI and Justice Department, have proved incapable of independently investigating this possible impeachable offence.  The production of a fraudulent birth certificate for the purpose of qualifying for U.S. Presidential office would be a “high crime or misdemeanor” under the impeachment clause of the U.S. constitution.

The historical analogy that occurred to Mr. Stanley and to other reporters such as Amy Holmes while interviewing Mr. Stanley today for the Washington Times was that of former U.S. President Richard M. Nixon.

Mr. Nixon resigned the U.S. Presidency on August 9, 1974 in the face of likely impeachment resulting from the Watergate break-in on June 17, 1972, as a result on an alert security guard who discovered a taped door left unlocked by the Watergate burglars that Nixon himself had sent to steal political intelligence from the Democratic party headquarters at the Watergate Hotel.

By analogy, the carelessness of the forged birth certificate of Mr. Obama could be compared to the carelessness of the Watergate burglars who, by leaving the office door to the Democratic headquarters taped, tipped off a security guard that a Presidential-directed illegal search was afoot, which eventually brought the Nixon presidency down.

Is Barack Obama's birth certificate a distraction from his quantum access time travel pre-identification secret?

Robert Stanley and mainstream media journalists such as CNN commentator Amy Holmes agree that the potential significance of the forensic fraud of Mr. Obama’s, if validated, could go beyond the political repercussions of even Watergate.

There appears to be another hidden factor beyond the location of Mr. Obama’s birth that is at play here – quantum access time travel pre-identification of recent U.S. Presidents, including Barack Obama.  The CIA has been pre-identifying future U.S. Presidents such as Barack Obama for 40 years and has, by the evidence, co-opted each of them into CIA. 

This secret quantum access program controls the U.S. presidency and makes the United States a functional CIA dictatorship.

As this reporter has written, the eyewitness evidence of whistleblower Andrew D. Basiago, the attorney in Washington State who was a participant in the secret DARPA-administered Project Pegasus that developed Tesla technology-based "quantum access" to to past and future events, indicates that it is likely that by 1982 Mr. Obama had been personally informed by CIA that he was destined to be the U.S. President inaugurated on January 20, 2009. 

Barack Obama was pre-identified in time as U.S. president by secret DARPA time travel program

The notion that President Obama has had a lifelong affiliation with the CIA is supported by the revelations of crusading lawyer Andrew D. Basiago about a heretofore unknown “quantum access” capability within the US intelligence community provided by time travel technology.

Mr. Basiago has been identified as a “planetary-level whistleblower” by the Web Bot for his account of a secret time-space program, Project Pegasus, launched by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s.

According to Mr. Basiago, by 1970, Project Pegasus was teleporting individuals between locations in time-space via “teleporters” based on the later works of Nikola Tesla and also propagating images of past and future events via “chronovisors” first developed by the Vatican scientists Pellegrino Ernetti and Pier Maria Gemelli.

These have been used to provide the U.S. president, intelligence community and military with better information about past and future events by which to engage in better contingency planning for future events.

In numerous TV and radio interviews, Mr. Basiago has described how, among other intelligence findings, Project Pegasus was identifying future American presidents and then approaching them and apprising them of their destinies as President.

He has described how as a child serving in Project Pegasus in the early 1970’s, he was present at lunches held at La Hacienda restaurant in Old Town Albuquerque, NM that were attended by project principals and future American presidents, including George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, shortly after they were informed that Project Pegasus had found via quantum access that they would one day serve as President.

In appearances on talk radio’s Coast to Coast AM with George Noory in 2009 and 2010, Mr. Basiago described at length a 1982 meeting with Barack Obama in Los Angeles in which Mr. Obama also revealed his awareness that he had been briefed on the fact that the US government had detected that he was destined to reach the White House.

We can infer from this meeting between Mr. Obama and Mr. Basiago in 1982 that at age 20 Mr. Obama had already entered into at least a consultative relationship with the CIA, because at the time, the US government was the only country with a time travel capability and the CIA was known to be collecting the intelligence data about past and future events that Project Pegasus was gathering via its time travel technologies.

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Cui Bono?  Who will be U.S. President on January 20, 2013?

The operant question as of this writing is whether Mr. Obama’s quantum access time travel controllers have determined that Mr. Obama will be the individual sworn in as U.S. President on January 20, 2013.

If CIA time travel has pre-identified Mr. Obama as U.S. President on January 20, 2013, then the “secret team” behind Mr. Obama may be taking a calculated risk with the newly released Obama birth certificate that there are enough Obama supporters in the main stream media through Operation Mockingbird and otherwise, and in the population, that the issue “will go away” or can be argued away on the basis of the technicalities of U.S. immigration and naturalization law.

If, on the other hand, Mr. Obama’s CIA quantum access controllers are aware through time travel pre-identification that some other individual is to be sworn in as U.S. President on January 20, 2013, then a crude and obvious forgery may be a perfect way to commence an internal “coup d’état” with outcome as yet unknown.

Vice President Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States, is most certainly a “natural born” citizen and a party loyalist.

Throughout this entire process, whatever the outcome (whether Mr. Obama stays or leaves as U.S. President), the principal objectives of the CIA time travel controllers and their loyal sycophants in the mainstream media will be to maintain the secrecy of the CIA's quantum access capability, and their secret control over the U.S. Presidency.

 

Further References

Covert Encounters in Washington, DC by Robert M. Stanley

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/p2_2.htm

 

Hidden story behind Jesse Ventura & Piers Morgan’s CNN clash over Obama CIA ties

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/hidden-story-behind-jesse-ventura-piers-morgan-s-cnn-clash-over-obama-cia-ties

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1381 on: April 30, 2011, 09:56:00 AM »

Washington Times report: Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
April 29th, 2011 6:45 pm PT .

Alfred Lambremont Webre Seattle Exopolitics Examiner.FollowSubscribe Sponsor an Examiner ...View all of Alfred's articlesPrintEmailShare on FacebookShare on Twitter.Do you like this Article?




In an exclusive April 29, 2011 interview on ExopoliticsTV with Alfred Lambremont Webre, Robert Stanley, weekly correspondent for the Washington Times investigative radio, states that the purported birth certificate released by U.S. President Barack H. Obama on April 27, 2011 is a forensic forgery.  In the interview, Mr. Stanley's statement is accompanied by an on-camera demonstration of various forgeries within the nine overlaid digital layers of the birth certificate document as released on the White House website.

Earlier on April 29, 2011, Mr. Stanley reported the breaking news regarding the forensic fraud in Mr. Obama's newly released birth certificate on Washington Times investigative radio's America's Morning News while being interviewed by reporters John McCaslin and Amy Holmes, also a commentator for CNN.

LISTEN TO BREAKING NEWS

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/MP3/breaking%20news.mp3

During his ExopoliticsTV interview Mr. Stanley indicated that the White House has in fact taken down Mr. Obama’s alleged recently released birth certificate from the White House website overnight (see here), although the White House has left a copy of the alleged birth certificate of Mr. Obama here.

As of this writing, Mr. Stanley stated there had been no overt comment from the White House other than the taking of the birth certificate offline.  Neither officials of the Hawaii state birth registrar nor of the Honolulu hospital where Mr. Obama allegedly was born have, as yet, commented.

Mr. Stanley stated that the headquarters of Donald Trump had put him in touch directly with Mr. Trump, and that he had forwarded the evidence of forensic forgery in Mr. Obama’s birth certificate directly to Mr. Trump.  

Donald Trump, a possible contender for the 2012 Republican nomination for U.S. President, stated on April 27, 2011 that he considers himself instrumental in forcing Mr. Obama to release the alleged birth certificate, and now apparent forensic fraud.

View Interview with Robert Stanley on forensic fraud on Obama birth certificate

Readers can view the interview of Robert Stanley by Alfred Lambremont Webre on forensic fraud and the Obama birth certificate in the video embedded in the article above or at the following URL:

VIEW INTERVIEW



During his 25 minute ExopoliticsTV interview, Mr. Stanley graphically demonstrates using copies of various of the nine overlaid digital layers within the forensically fraudulent birth certificate of Mr. Obama that the birth certificate was assembled as a forged document, using components of many other documents.  

Robert Stanley’s conclusions congruent with other independent research on forensic fraud in Obama birth certificate

Robert M. Stanley’s conclusions are also congruent with other independent analyses of Mr. Obama’s alleged birth certificate released April 27, 2011, including the following:

Barack Obama's Birth Certificate is a Digitally Layered Photoshop Fake



 

Proof Obama's 4/27/11 "Long Form Certificate of Birth" is Forged!



 

Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama



 

Other anomalies in the forensically forged Obama birth certificate

Researchers have identified a number of anomalies on the alleged birth certificate of Mr. Obama, apart from the evidence of forensic forgery provided by analysis of its nine layers.

One researcher states, "Look at the hospital name on this document [Mr. Obama's alleged birth certificate]. The hospital had a different name in 1961, it was not named Kapiolani Maternity and Gynocological Hospital, it was called Kaokiolani Children's Hospital.  It did not get the Kapiolani name until the mid-1970s when they merged. Kenya was not called "Kenya" in 1961 it was called "The British East Africa Protectorate" at the time Obama was born and this document was supposedly printed.  Then in 1963 it became "The Dominion of Kenya." Then later on became the "Republic of Kenya."

Another researcher states, "I’m not going to say that the information on the document is bogus, but I can definitely, without hesitation, say that the document was originally a two-layer piece. The top layer is the ‘black’ part that came from a scanner as a grayscale scan. It was converted to black and white and the white part was made transparent.

"That was dropped onto a generic green watermark background, which is what makes it look official. But that was NOT on the original document as scanned. This is very evident by the white haloing around everything black. It is also extremely evident that a layer was dropped onto the green background because the green marks are very crisp in the areas around the edges of the image, but are very blurred where the black image block covers it.

"Now keep in mind that before the green background was added, the original scan could have easily been altered, dates or names changed. I’m not saying it was. I’m just saying it’s a 100% fact that it could have been. So, this document as we see it is still not proof of anything. I could easily recreate this document with someone else’s original Hawaii birth certificate and a generic watermark background."

Another researcher writes, "Jerome Corsi writes that the issue represents the 'Rosetta Stone' of deciphering both Obama’s previously released short-form Certification of Live Birth and the newly released purported copy of his long-form birth certificate.”

"It centers around the fact that two twins born in the same Kapi’olani hospital listed on the Obama document the day after Obama was purportedly born actually have birth certificate numbers lower than Obama. The number should be lower on the Obama certificate if he was born before the twins.

As Corsi explains, “Susan Nordyke, the first twin, was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

“Gretchen Nordyke, the second twin, was born at 2:17 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.”

“Yet, according to the Certification of Live Birth displayed by FactCheck.org during the 2008 presidential campaign – and now according to the long-form birth certificate the White House released today – Barack Obama was given a higher certificate number than the Nordykes.”

“Note, Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.”

Why was a forged Obama Hawaii birth certificate necessary?

The forgery of Barack Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate appears to have been made necessary by U.S. immigration and naturalization law in the period between 1953 and 1986.

Between Dec. 24, 1953 and Nov. 13, 1986, an individual born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent married to an alien could be a “natural born citizen” only if the U.S. citizen parent had lived in the U.S. continuously for 10 years, five of which were after their 14th birthday.

Barack Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born on November 29, 1942.  Obama was allegedly born on August 4, 1961.  Thus, by prevailing U.S. law, Barack Obama could not have been a “natural born U.S. citizen.” If he was born in Kenya, Mr. Obama's mother was only 18 and could not have lived in the U.S. five years after her 14th birthday at the time of his birth.

Thus, it became a political necessity for Barack Obama to have a U.S. birth certificate.  A forged birth certificate may have been produced in this case on April 27, 2011 because a genuine one does not exist despite the fact that the President was born in Hawaii or does not exist because he was born overseas.

For Barack Obama to have become a U.S. citizen under prevailing U.S. law at the time of his birth in 1961, his mother would have had to petition a U.S. immigration court for a naturalized U.S. citizenship status, which would have been readily granted to him because he was born of an American mother.

However, by the tragic timing of his birth taking place a few months short of his mother’s having lived in the U.S. for five years continuously after her 14th birthday, Barack Obama never achieved “natural born citizen” status and was as a matter of law constitutionally ineligible for the U.S. Presidency.

It is an established fact that Mr. Obama acquired Indonesian citizenship when his mother married Indonesian national Lolo Soetoro, who adopted Mr. Obama and moved his family to Indonesia in 1967.  Indonesia requires that its citizens renounce all other citizenships.

There is no record, however, that after she sent Mr. Obama to live with his grandparents in Hawaii in 1971 or divorced Mr. Soetero Mr. Obama’s mother ever petitioned for U.S. nationalization of Mr. Obama.  Thus, it is most plausible that Mr. Obama was an Indonesian citizen when he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii in 1971; when he matriculated to Occidental College in Hawaii in 1979; when he ran for the U.S. Senate in January 2003; and when he declared for U.S. President on February 10, 2007.

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Thus, as a matter of law, even a valid birth certificate showing that Mr. Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Hawaii would not suffice to grant Barack Obama the “natural born” status he requires to be U.S. President, absent a special statue of the U.S. Congress as was granted his 2008 Presidential rival John McCain.

Ironically, in 1986, this U.S. immigration and naturalization law was changed to grant John McCain “natural born” status despite his having been born in the U.S. Panama Canal Zone.  The law change permits an individual born overseas to a U.S. parent married to an alien to acquire “natural born” status when born overseas in specific U.S. related facilities and territories.

Why such a clumsy forensic forgery in a Presidential birth certificate?

During his interview, Mr. Stanley was asked to speculate on the reason for such a clumsy forensic forgery in a Presidential birth certificate, as many independent researchers are speculating on this question.  A recent poll indicates that more than 60% of U.S. adults believe that Barack Obama was not born in the U.S., thus potentially disqualifying him to be U.S. President.

Mr. Stanley responded that there are many possible scenarios for a clumsy forensic forgery.  One scenario was that Mr. Obama was “set up” intentionally by other parties to release a fraudulent birth certificate to embarrass him politically.  Another scenario was that the parties that colluded in producing the fraudulent birth certificate were careless and produced a second-rate forgery that could be broken by anyone with a working knowledge of Adobe Illustrator.

Is Barack Obama the next Richard Nixon?

In his ExopoliticsTV interview, Robert Stanley calls for a Congressional investigation of the apparent forensically fraudulent birth certificate of Mr. Obama. The White House, and federal agencies such as the FBI and Justice Department, have proved incapable of independently investigating this possible impeachable offence.  The production of a fraudulent birth certificate for the purpose of qualifying for U.S. Presidential office would be a “high crime or misdemeanor” under the impeachment clause of the U.S. constitution.

The historical analogy that occurred to Mr. Stanley and to other reporters such as Amy Holmes while interviewing Mr. Stanley today for the Washington Times was that of former U.S. President Richard M. Nixon.

Mr. Nixon resigned the U.S. Presidency on August 9, 1974 in the face of likely impeachment resulting from the Watergate break-in on June 17, 1972, as a result on an alert security guard who discovered a taped door left unlocked by the Watergate burglars that Nixon himself had sent to steal political intelligence from the Democratic party headquarters at the Watergate Hotel.

By analogy, the carelessness of the forged birth certificate of Mr. Obama could be compared to the carelessness of the Watergate burglars who, by leaving the office door to the Democratic headquarters taped, tipped off a security guard that a Presidential-directed illegal search was afoot, which eventually brought the Nixon presidency down.

Is Barack Obama's birth certificate a distraction from his quantum access time travel pre-identification secret?

Robert Stanley and mainstream media journalists such as CNN commentator Amy Holmes agree that the potential significance of the forensic fraud of Mr. Obama’s, if validated, could go beyond the political repercussions of even Watergate.

There appears to be another hidden factor beyond the location of Mr. Obama’s birth that is at play here – quantum access time travel pre-identification of recent U.S. Presidents, including Barack Obama.  The CIA has been pre-identifying future U.S. Presidents such as Barack Obama for 40 years and has, by the evidence, co-opted each of them into CIA.  

This secret quantum access program controls the U.S. presidency and makes the United States a functional CIA dictatorship.

As this reporter has written, the eyewitness evidence of whistleblower Andrew D. Basiago, the attorney in Washington State who was a participant in the secret DARPA-administered Project Pegasus that developed Tesla technology-based "quantum access" to to past and future events, indicates that it is likely that by 1982 Mr. Obama had been personally informed by CIA that he was destined to be the U.S. President inaugurated on January 20, 2009.  

Barack Obama was pre-identified in time as U.S. president by secret DARPA time travel program

The notion that President Obama has had a lifelong affiliation with the CIA is supported by the revelations of crusading lawyer Andrew D. Basiago about a heretofore unknown “quantum access” capability within the US intelligence community provided by time travel technology.

Mr. Basiago has been identified as a “planetary-level whistleblower” by the Web Bot for his account of a secret time-space program, Project Pegasus, launched by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s.

According to Mr. Basiago, by 1970, Project Pegasus was teleporting individuals between locations in time-space via “teleporters” based on the later works of Nikola Tesla and also propagating images of past and future events via “chronovisors” first developed by the Vatican scientists Pellegrino Ernetti and Pier Maria Gemelli.

These have been used to provide the U.S. president, intelligence community and military with better information about past and future events by which to engage in better contingency planning for future events.

In numerous TV and radio interviews, Mr. Basiago has described how, among other intelligence findings, Project Pegasus was identifying future American presidents and then approaching them and apprising them of their destinies as President.

He has described how as a child serving in Project Pegasus in the early 1970’s, he was present at lunches held at La Hacienda restaurant in Old Town Albuquerque, NM that were attended by project principals and future American presidents, including George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, shortly after they were informed that Project Pegasus had found via quantum access that they would one day serve as President.

In appearances on talk radio’s Coast to Coast AM with George Noory in 2009 and 2010, Mr. Basiago described at length a 1982 meeting with Barack Obama in Los Angeles in which Mr. Obama also revealed his awareness that he had been briefed on the fact that the US government had detected that he was destined to reach the White House.

We can infer from this meeting between Mr. Obama and Mr. Basiago in 1982 that at age 20 Mr. Obama had already entered into at least a consultative relationship with the CIA, because at the time, the US government was the only country with a time travel capability and the CIA was known to be collecting the intelligence data about past and future events that Project Pegasus was gathering via its time travel technologies.

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Hidden story behind Jesse Ventura & Piers Morgan’s CNN clash over Obama CIA ties - Seattle exopolitics | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/hidden-story-behind-jesse-ventura-piers-morgan-s-cnn-clash-over-obama-cia-ties#ixzz1Kxml6rXV
Cui Bono?  Who will be U.S. President on January 20, 2013?

The operant question as of this writing is whether Mr. Obama’s quantum access time travel controllers have determined that Mr. Obama will be the individual sworn in as U.S. President on January 20, 2013.

If CIA time travel has pre-identified Mr. Obama as U.S. President on January 20, 2013, then the “secret team” behind Mr. Obama may be taking a calculated risk with the newly released Obama birth certificate that there are enough Obama supporters in the main stream media through Operation Mockingbird and otherwise, and in the population, that the issue “will go away” or can be argued away on the basis of the technicalities of U.S. immigration and naturalization law.

If, on the other hand, Mr. Obama’s CIA quantum access controllers are aware through time travel pre-identification that some other individual is to be sworn in as U.S. President on January 20, 2013, then a crude and obvious forgery may be a perfect way to commence an internal “coup d’état” with outcome as yet unknown.

Vice President Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States, is most certainly a “natural born” citizen and a party loyalist.

Throughout this entire process, whatever the outcome (whether Mr. Obama stays or leaves as U.S. President), the principal objectives of the CIA time travel controllers and their loyal sycophants in the mainstream media will be to maintain the secrecy of the CIA's quantum access capability, and their secret control over the U.S. Presidency.

 

Further References

Covert Encounters in Washington, DC by Robert M. Stanley

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/p2_2.htm

 

Hidden story behind Jesse Ventura & Piers Morgan’s CNN clash over Obama CIA ties

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/hidden-story-behind-jesse-ventura-piers-morgan-s-cnn-clash-over-obama-cia-ties

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Continue reading on Examiner.com: Washington Times report: Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery - Seattle exopolitics | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/washington-times-report-newly-released-obama-birth-certificate-forensic-forgery#ixzz1L1fIL9oF

Henceforth I will not read ANY article which you post which begins with anything having to do with Obama;s birth certificate......it's a dead issue that you refuse to move on from..your credibility as been totally shattered on this issue

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« Reply #1382 on: April 30, 2011, 10:00:20 AM »
Who are you kidding?   You love the birther issue as much as anyone else.   

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« Reply #1383 on: April 30, 2011, 12:23:39 PM »
There appears to be another hidden factor beyond the location of Mr. Obama’s birth that is at play here – quantum access time travel pre-identification of recent U.S. Presidents, including Barack Obama.  The CIA has been pre-identifying future U.S. Presidents such as Barack Obama for 40 years and has, by the evidence, co-opted each of them into CIA. 

This secret quantum access program controls the U.S. presidency and makes the United States a functional CIA dictatorship.

As this reporter has written, the eyewitness evidence of whistleblower Andrew D. Basiago, the attorney in Washington State who was a participant in the secret DARPA-administered Project Pegasus that developed Tesla technology-based "quantum access" to to past and future events, indicates that it is likely that by 1982 Mr. Obama had been personally informed by CIA that he was destined to be the U.S. President inaugurated on January 20, 2009. 

Barack Obama was pre-identified in time as U.S. president by secret DARPA time travel program


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Do you even read the articles you post?

Time travel is now involved in this giant conspiracy.  Oh my.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1384 on: April 30, 2011, 12:23:55 PM »
Who are you kidding?   You love the birther issue as much as anyone else.   

nope..not true..its a total waste of time and I will no longer debate it nor read anything about it that any one posts....if you guys are that crazy to still keep this issue alive then so be it but I won't be a party to nonsense

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« Reply #1385 on: April 30, 2011, 12:43:58 PM »
 :)

Romney: Biden Biggest Loser in Obama Birth Issue
Friday, 29 Apr 2011
By Newsmax Wires

The biggest loser in the controversy surrounding Barak Obam's birthplace was not Donald Trump, said Mitt Romney, but Joe Biden.

"There was no one more disappointed than that amiable, know-it-all windbag, Joe Biden,” Romney joked at the Americans for Prosperity forum in New Hampshire which featured five GOP hopefuls, Politico reports. “But I wish Joe Biden well."

Romney, who followed Tim Pawlenty in speaking to the crowd, criticized Obama's efforts on the economy and health care reform. He was asked about his own health care overhaul while governor, dubbed 'Romney Care.'

"I went to work to solve a problem," Romney said. "Some parts of that experiment worked, some parts didn't."

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/mittromney-barackobama-donaldtrump-timpawlenty/2011/04/29/id/394639

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« Reply #1386 on: April 30, 2011, 03:40:33 PM »
the only thing more lame than joe biden is romneycare.

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« Reply #1387 on: April 30, 2011, 04:52:23 PM »
Skip to comments.

Obama demanded detailed birth certificate after continued questions
The Washington Post ^ | 27 April 2011 | Anne E. Kornblut
Posted on April 28, 2011 2:37:04 PM EDT by jda

Obama had grown incredulous at the overall debate. . . . Finally, on April 19, in a meeting with White House counsel Bob Bauer, the president asked about the feasibility of getting his long-form birth certificate at last.

. . . Last week, it was Obama who made the call to proceed. “He was the driving force,” the official said.

The swift action that followed — in less than 10 days, Obama’s lawyers were able to obtain the legal waivers necessary to bring copies of the certificate back to the White House – raised questions about the timing. Why, for example, did Obama officials wait so long to tamp down rumors that have dogged the president since the 2008 presidential campaign? Why did they release the forms on the very day that Trump is making his first visit to New Hampshire, and during a week when Obama is slated to make other major announcements about his national security team?

According to senior administration officials, the timeframe was the result of Obama’s personal request for a resolution – and reflected his impatience with political frivolity of any kind.

. . .

When administration officials released the paperwork on Wednesday morning shortly after 9 a.m., it came as a shock to the political establishment. White House officials moved quickly to explain how it had come about, holding briefings with reporters, releasing the paperwork via Twitter and then sending the president to the podium in the White House briefing room.

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« Reply #1388 on: April 30, 2011, 04:53:19 PM »
33,

Do you even read the articles you post?

Time travel is now involved in this giant conspiracy.  Oh my.
NO ONE could read all the crap that he posts, him included.
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« Reply #1389 on: April 30, 2011, 08:29:06 PM »
NO ONE could read all the crap that he posts, him included.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=371279.0


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1390 on: April 30, 2011, 10:21:41 PM »
Busted: White House Now Claims They Ordered Short-Form COLB From Hawaii Department Of Health In 2008 Yet COLB Is Date Stamped 2007

OBAMARELEASE YOURRECORDS ON 2:12 PM
[revised] The Obama lies keep mounting. I just received a phone call from Pixel Patriot to head over to the White House website and check out the post on Obama's purported long-form birth certificate. After reading the post I was astounded to see what I saw. If you recall, one of the first Obama short-form COLB's posted online was the crease-less, seal-less, redacted COLB that is posted at Obama's FightTheSmears website.

Instead of the White House posting that COLB, or even the short-form with creases and a seal like at Factcheck, Pixel Patriot pointed out to me that they posted a new version of the original COLB in a monochromatic format. That is significant because you can no longer see the patterned background or the date stamp. That new version is a PDF document created from a JPEG image with a date stamp of April 25, 2011 originating from a Snopes message board.

The White House website is attempting to validate a presidential record originally introduced in 2008 to the public by referencing what appears to be a printout from a message board from two days prior. Robert Gibbs is on record admitting that he posted Obama's COLB on the Internet. Why would the White House now choose to source an image of an image which no Hawaii official could legally endorse as being issued from them?

It must be noted that there is no certificate number under the blacked out section of the COLB, now posted at the White House website or the one posted at FightTheSmears website.

Now here is where the big lie begins. If you read the first sentence of the post at the White House you will see that someone is flat out lying as to when the purported short-form COLB was ordered/issued from/by the Hawaii Department of Health.

The first part of the paragraph from the White House website reads:

"In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet." -Source.

This date stamp issue was raised before in the past but Factcheck claimed this:

"We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn’t release its copy until 2008,..." -Source.

Now that the White House admits they ordered the short-form in 2008 how could the short-form COLB be issued by the state of Hawaii in 2008 when the actual date stamp on the short-form COLB is date stamped June 6th, 2007?

Below are the pertinent screenshots, just in case they scrub-a-dub-dub, that show the White House and Factcheck are full of malarkey, as if we didn't know... Fact check that CrapCheck.org.

Hat tip Pixel Patriot. Please view Pixel Patriot's latest essay and video to see the real issue that Obama is up against, here.







Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here. 

Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here. 

Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here. 

Jack Cashill Discusses Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants -Video here. 

Detailed reports on Obama's SS# can be found here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
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« Reply #1391 on: May 01, 2011, 06:00:44 AM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=371279.0


All you do is troll.  You should be banned.

actually he's absolutely right...YOU should be banned if you can't see that

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« Reply #1392 on: May 01, 2011, 06:05:56 AM »
Busted: White House Now Claims They Ordered Short-Form COLB From Hawaii Department Of Health In 2008 Yet COLB Is Date Stamped 2007

OBAMARELEASE YOURRECORDS ON 2:12 PM
[revised] The Obama lies keep mounting. I just received a phone call from Pixel Patriot to head over to the White House website and check out the post on Obama's purported long-form birth certificate. After reading the post I was astounded to see what I saw. If you recall, one of the first Obama short-form COLB's posted online was the crease-less, seal-less, redacted COLB that is posted at Obama's FightTheSmears website.

Instead of the White House posting that COLB, or even the short-form with creases and a seal like at Factcheck, Pixel Patriot pointed out to me that they posted a new version of the original COLB in a monochromatic format. That is significant because you can no longer see the patterned background or the date stamp. That new version is a PDF document created from a JPEG image with a date stamp of April 25, 2011 originating from a Snopes message board.

The White House website is attempting to validate a presidential record originally introduced in 2008 to the public by referencing what appears to be a printout from a message board from two days prior. Robert Gibbs is on record admitting that he posted Obama's COLB on the Internet. Why would the White House now choose to source an image of an image which no Hawaii official could legally endorse as being issued from them?

It must be noted that there is no certificate number under the blacked out section of the COLB, now posted at the White House website or the one posted at FightTheSmears website.

Now here is where the big lie begins. If you read the first sentence of the post at the White House you will see that someone is flat out lying as to when the purported short-form COLB was ordered/issued from/by the Hawaii Department of Health.

The first part of the paragraph from the White House website reads:

"In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet." -Source.

This date stamp issue was raised before in the past but Factcheck claimed this:

"We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn’t release its copy until 2008,..." -Source.

Now that the White House admits they ordered the short-form in 2008 how could the short-form COLB be issued by the state of Hawaii in 2008 when the actual date stamp on the short-form COLB is date stamped June 6th, 2007?

Below are the pertinent screenshots, just in case they scrub-a-dub-dub, that show the White House and Factcheck are full of malarkey, as if we didn't know... Fact check that CrapCheck.org.

Hat tip Pixel Patriot. Please view Pixel Patriot's latest essay and video to see the real issue that Obama is up against, here.







Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here. 

Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here. 

Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here. 

Jack Cashill Discusses Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants -Video here. 

Detailed reports on Obama's SS# can be found here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
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Did you see The Donald getting owned by Obama and then Seth Meyers?

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« Reply #1393 on: May 01, 2011, 06:07:39 AM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=371279.0


All you do is troll.  You should be banned.
Pipe down, sonny.

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« Reply #1394 on: May 01, 2011, 06:18:20 AM »
Yeah trump was owned alright.  Obama was forced to discuss his bc the whole time.  Lol. 

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« Reply #1395 on: May 01, 2011, 06:21:35 AM »
Yeah trump was owned alright.  Obama was forced to discuss his bc the whole time.  Lol. 
You have no qualms about willfully denying reality, do you?

It's amazing. 
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« Reply #1396 on: May 01, 2011, 06:21:51 AM »
Yeah trump was owned alright.  Obama was forced to discuss his bc the whole time.  Lol.  

hahahahahaha discussing the bc was to shit on trump more,really are you that num,when people tell you  a joke do they have to explain the punch line :D :D :D

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« Reply #1397 on: May 01, 2011, 06:26:41 AM »
hahahahahaha discussing the bc was to shit on trump more,really are you that num,whan people tell you  a joke do they have to explain the punch line :D :D :D

The joke is on bama since he looks like a baby who played games on this for 3 years

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1398 on: May 01, 2011, 06:28:53 AM »
The joke is on bama since he looks like a baby who played games on this for 3 years

hahahaha more birther talk,you have to love it,here's a shovel keep digging :D :D

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1399 on: May 01, 2011, 06:31:14 AM »