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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1575 on: May 21, 2011, 09:44:33 AM »
I am MORE than willing to accept he was born in HI. I just want non-shady proof. AND, I want to know who the babydaddy is 100%. BOTH parents U.S. citizens and born on U.S. soil, he's a legitimate president. Parentage as he self reports, haul the usurper out of the WH NOW.

I don't believe we will ever see Mr. Transparency allow the records to be opened to legitimate authentication.

I think you have raised a legitimate question about dual citizenship.  But I also agree we will likely never see all of his original birth records.  He doesn't need to release anything else.  It's over.  He won. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1576 on: May 21, 2011, 09:58:59 AM »
You need to go back and review what Fukiwhateverhernameis actually said. She claimed that the records are on file in accordance with HI laws, but NEVER actually said what they contained. And no one has vouched for this latest piece of sh!t.

Here is what she said:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

And:

State Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino — a Republican — tried to put the issue of Obama's Honolulu birth to rest back in 2008 by declaring that she and Hawai'i's registrar of vital statistics had personally seen Obama's birth certificate.

"This has gotten ridiculous," Fukino told The Advertiser at the time. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy. ... We need to get some work done."



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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1577 on: May 21, 2011, 10:02:09 AM »
Also:

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims
By Michael Isikoff National investigative correspondent
NBC News NBC News
updated 4/11/2011

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."

No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."

As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that," Fukino said. Moreover, she added, her boss at the time, Lingle — who was backing John McCain for president — would presumably have to be in on any cover up since Fukino made her public comment at the governor's office's request. "Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

Her second point — one she made repeatedly in the interview — is that the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. (Obama was "testy" when asked to sign the form but did so anyway to put the issue to rest, the former campaign official said. The White House has dismissed all questions about the president's birth as "fictional nonsense.")

The certification that the campaign received back —which shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 — was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said.

"What he got, everybody got," said Fukino. "He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate."

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu's newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama's birth on Aug. 4 of that year.

Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/42518702

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1578 on: May 21, 2011, 10:06:24 AM »
Here is what she said:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

And:

State Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino — a Republican — tried to put the issue of Obama's Honolulu birth to rest back in 2008 by declaring that she and Hawai'i's registrar of vital statistics had personally seen Obama's birth certificate.

"This has gotten ridiculous," Fukino told The Advertiser at the time. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy. ... We need to get some work done."




This was a second statement, which immediately after she was no longer working for HI health dept. Curiouser and curiouser.

Her second statement also contradicted her original statement about doing in on her own as opposed to doing it at the direction of Lingle.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1579 on: May 21, 2011, 10:08:11 AM »
This was a second statement, which immediately after she was no longer working for HI health dept. Curiouser and curiouser.

Her second statement also contradicted her original statement about doing in on her own as opposed to doing it at the direction of Lingle.

"She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time."

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1580 on: May 21, 2011, 10:11:32 AM »
Also:

Ex-Hawaii official

I want a NOW - second thought, I don't trust any of them now. I want Onaka UNDER OATH and the custodian of records UNDER OATH and forensic document examiners UNDER OATH. The bar gets higher and higher due to the shady manner it has all been handled.

Had the man just submitted a long form to the first court case instead of fighting it, this  could have been gone by now (and him, but of course that's the problem for him).

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1581 on: May 21, 2011, 10:24:06 AM »
I want a NOW - second thought, I don't trust any of them now. I want Onaka UNDER OATH and the custodian of records UNDER OATH and forensic document examiners UNDER OATH. The bar gets higher and higher due to the shady manner it has all been handled.

Had the man just submitted a long form to the first court case instead of fighting it, this  could have been gone by now (and him, but of course that's the problem for him).

Never going to happen.

Nothing was shady.  He produced a COLB.  People claimed it was forged.  He told those people to go screw themselves for about two years.  He then released his BC.  People claim it was forged.  He is telling those people to go screw themselves, and will do so till he gets tossed in November 2012. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1582 on: May 23, 2011, 12:57:12 PM »
http://www.ajpfiles.com/May2011/Alex.Jones.5.20.2011.mp3

Jerome Corsi on Alex Jones May 20, 2011

The BC portion starts at 1:09:00

Interesting section at 1:25:38 about missing records in Kenya

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1583 on: May 23, 2011, 01:04:47 PM »
Most of the articles from WND have probably been posted by yours truly.  They have been all over the birther stuff from day one.  I didn't realize you had some much in common with them.   :)

What you got from me is my statement that I believe the person who reviewed Obama's original birth records and confirmed they are legitimate. 
some much in common with them? yea.....

No, what we got from you is nothing but faith, and that's about all you got....

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« Reply #1584 on: May 23, 2011, 01:07:09 PM »
some much in common with them? yea.....

No, what we got from you is nothing but faith, and that's about all you got....

Yes, I believe the person who said she reviewed the birth records, twice, over some kid on the internet with his computer claiming the documents are a fraud. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1585 on: May 23, 2011, 01:39:40 PM »
Yes, I believe the person who said she reviewed the birth records, twice, over some kid on the internet with his computer claiming the documents are a fraud. 

As do I.

I know agreeing with Beach is unreal to me too... but that's how it goes.

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« Reply #1586 on: May 23, 2011, 01:41:58 PM »
As do I.

I know agreeing with Beach is unreal to me too... but that's how it goes.

Uh oh.  I gotta watch what I say.  :)

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1587 on: May 23, 2011, 01:47:25 PM »
so many switching alliances............... ugh.  this is like the show "Heroes".   :D

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« Reply #1588 on: May 23, 2011, 01:51:50 PM »
don't trust anyone who freaks out and goes all faith on you over a few questions....

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« Reply #1589 on: May 23, 2011, 02:06:48 PM »
so many switching alliances............... ugh.  this is like the show "Heroes".   :D

lol

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« Reply #1590 on: May 23, 2011, 02:08:32 PM »
so many switching alliances............... ugh.  this is like the show "Heroes".   :D
Posted questions nobody is willing to answer... Don't blame me, blame the people that have no answer to good questions.,..

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1591 on: May 23, 2011, 02:09:31 PM »
Ozmo, you're the king debunker,.... debunk this bitch so I can get back to laughing at birthers....

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1592 on: May 23, 2011, 02:17:25 PM »
Ozmo, you're the king debunker,.... debunk this bitch so I can get back to laughing at birthers....

At the moment I haven't really looked into it deeply since the LFBC was released.  And i have stated for the record in other threads that while i believe it was legit it does raise some questions that should be addressed.

I do believe ex-Hawaii official and the backing of the state of Hawaii and the other many supporting bits that lead to the legitimacy of Obama's birth in Hawaii, but at the same time do question the way and method of the releasing of the LFBC and agree with some of the questions you are raising.

I will get to it some time soon.  Maybe by then there will be more out there we can look at. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1593 on: May 23, 2011, 04:37:21 PM »
I'm on page 67 of the book....I also heard Corsi on Alex jones the other day...


Opinion unchanged..

Obama isn't eligible to be president of the united states.

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« Reply #1594 on: May 24, 2011, 07:31:19 PM »
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[UPDATE BELOW, AUDIO FOUND] WND's Dr. Jerome Corsi stated on the Bill Cunningham Radio Show that he's going to 'file criminal charges against the White House' over the latest birth certificate forgery. I listened to the live show and then went back to the radio station website to download the show podcast and lo and behold the interview with Dr. Corsi was scrubbed from the show podcast. I think maybe Bill O'Reilly gave them some tips on scrubbing show podcasts... ;-)

The radio station in question is Cincinnati's 700 WLW which is owned by none other than Clear Channel Communications, which, by the way, is the parent company of Clear Channel Outdoor who refused to erect World Net Daily's 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' billboards two years back.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords. blogspot.com ...

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1595 on: May 25, 2011, 09:00:22 AM »
The "filing criminal charges this week" is in this interview

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« Reply #1596 on: May 25, 2011, 09:03:51 AM »
Good luck.....

I don't have much faith in anything becoming of it.

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« Reply #1598 on: May 27, 2011, 08:14:03 PM »
Obama's Real Birthcertificate Revealed
Posted by Travis Y. on May 16, 2011 at 11:59am
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Here are some FACTS for you to consider:


 
Hawaii Governor, Neil Abercrombie, who knew him as a child, admits that there is no Obama birth certificate in Hawaii. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrb7YqdvxE  )

Tim Adams, a former-Senior Elections Clerk for the City and County of Honolulu Hawaii said this;

“There is no birth certificate [for Barack Obama]. It's like an open secret.  There isn't one. Everyone in the government there [Hawaii] knows this.  It was openly admitted by everyone in the office that was above me... that there is no documentation... that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.   I was told, at the time, that there was no long form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in hospital in Honolulu... there is no such form in Hawaii.   He does have a Certificate of Live Birth which is given to children of families who were residents of Hawaii when children are born outside the state. So I assert that he was born outside of Hawaii."

Barack Obama, Former CIA Agent, By Deanna Spingola
 Edited by Ken Freeland
 March 13, 2010

I recently had the great pleasure of talking with Dr. James David Manning who has been ministering to the people of Harlem since 1981. He is now the Senior Pastor at ATLAH which stands for All the Land Anointed Holy, Manning’s inspired name for Harlem as of September 14, 1991.

Dr. Manning heads the Columbia Obama Treason Trial  which is scheduled for May 14-19, 2010 at the ATLAH building at 38 West 123rd Street in ATLAH, New York, 10027. Unfortunately, the Department of Justice and the Supreme Court have failed in their duties to uphold the Constitution and address the legitimacy and other questionable issues surrounding the White House’s current resident. So, Dr. Manning, being a longtime resident of the Columbia University area, the school that Obama allegedly attended, began an intense investigation into Obama’s educational background and discovered some profound discrepancies.

According to Dr. Manning, Obama (born in 1961) enrolled at the very pricey Occidental College in Los Angeles, California in 1979 and was apparently recruited there in 1980 by the CIA which has made it a practice since its inception to recruit college students. He was, by his own admission, a “C” student, a dope smoker and a member of the Marxist Club at Occidental, a co-educational liberal arts college. In 1981, Obama allegedly transferred from Occidental to Columbia University to major in Political Science with a specialization in international relations. It is atypical for a student to begin their education in one four-year school and then transfer to another school. Columbia University requires that incoming students pass certain academic requirements which Obama apparently lacked. However, Columbia had a foreign student program and the CIA has major connections and influence with Columbia and the nation’s other educational facilities. Interestingly, Zbigniew Brzezinski, known to have ties to the CIA as early as 1959, was on the Columbia University faculty from 1960 to 1989 and was in charge of the Institute on Communist Affairs. He was also Obama's mentor. Brzezinski was President Carter's National Security Advisor from 1977 to 1981 and recently admitted that his objective was to entice the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan in December 1979.

The CIA needed Muslims or others who could easily blend into the Muslim environment in the Middle East. The CIA persuaded Columbia University to extend their foreign student program to Obama, now a Columbia student, so that he might travel to Pakistan and enroll in the universities around Karachi in addition to the Patrice Lumumba School in Moscow.  The school, one of Russia’s most prestigious universities was founded on February 5, 1960 as The Peoples’ Friendship University of Russia (PFUR). It was renamed the Patrice Lumumba School on February 22, 1961. On February 5, 1992 the university re-adopted its former name. According to their web site, “The main aim was to give young people from Asia, Africa and Latin America, especially from poor families, an opportunity to get University education and to become highly qualified specialists. The students were admitted through non-governmental organizations, governmental establishments, and the USSR embassies and consulates.” 

Obama, as an undercover agent, was allegedly the lead agent in the arms and money supply for the CIA-trained Taliban Army against the Soviet Army war machine. His actions were integral to the Taliban’s success in their opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Obama, it is publicly acknowledged, went to Pakistan in 1981. There is no way of knowing how often Obama traveled between Pakistan and Russia. According to Dr. Manning, Obama was an interpreter for the CIA during the war in Afghanistan. When Obama completed his CIA operations in the mid-1980’s and returned to the U.S. he persuaded the State Department to maneuver his entrance into Harvard Law School; since the CIA, the U.S. president’s personal agency for black operations throughout the world, also has connections to federal and state politicians, they managed to arrange Obama’s entrance to yet another elite school in 1988.

Percy Ellis Sutton, a civil-rights activist and lawyer, was the Manhattan Borough President from 1966 to 1977. He was an intelligence officer with the Tuskegee Airmen, the name of a group of African American pilots who were part of the 332nd Fighter Group of the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. Sutton entered Harlem politics and became a leader of the Harlem Clubhouse, known as the “Gang of Four” which has controlled Democratic politics in Harlem for at least fifty years. His Clubhouse allies were New York City Mayor David Dinkins, U.S. Representative Charles Rangel, and New York Secretary of State Basil Paterson, father of the currently beleaguered David Paterson who replaced Spitzer as New York Governor in 2008. Percy Sutton wrote a letter to Harvard officials requesting that they admit Obama as a student after a hiatus of five years (from 1983 when he allegedly left Columbia to 1988).

Despite a five-year absence from the rigors of college activity he was accepted at Harvard where he excelled and on February 5, 1990, was elected president of the venerable celebrated Harvard Law Review, the highest student position at Harvard Law School, a term that lasts for one year.  After graduation he could have worked in any leading law firm except that he lacked the proper citizenship qualifications which would have come to light during the interview and normal background checks pursued by major law firms. Moreover, his academic deficiencies at Occidental College would have disqualified him from the top law firms. Furthermore, he was a CIA operative in the Middle East during the time that he was supposed to be attending Columbia University. So despite his Harvard achievements, Obama became a Saul Alinsky-style community organizer in South Chicago which alleviated the necessity of providing a legitimate background check.

In 1990, Obama accepted a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a law firm which represented civil rights cases but also represented Rezmar Corp. owned by Chicago slumlord, Tony Rezko. The law firm helped Rezmar Corp. get more than $43 million in government funding. As early as 1995, Rezko started contributing to Obama for his political aspirations. In 2003, Rezko was a fundraiser for Obama’s Senatorial campaign as part of a group that raised over $14 million. In 2006, Rezko was found guilty of sixteen out of twenty-four charges filed against him.

Barack Obama had been employed for a short summer stint as an associate with Sidley Austin Brown & Wood LLP, the same law firm that Harvard graduate Michelle Robinson worked for from 1988 to 1991. She became his trainer and supervisor and, as such, may have handled any background information. Michelle Robinson, through the efforts of Valerie Jarrett, then-deputy chief of staff for Mayor Richard Daley, became an assistant to the mayor. Robinson later became an “economic development coordinator.” Obama married the politically connected Michelle Robinson in October 1992 in the Trinity United Church of Christ. This gave him citizenship and credibility.   In 1993, according to the Records at the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, Michelle Obama, as an attorney, was “voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law” per her request. After she gave up her law license, Michelle Obama worked for the University of Chicago Medical Center where she received a very generous annual salary of $317,000.

Michelle Obama helped to improvise a scheme to shift low-income charity cases to other area hospitals in order to make room for insurance-carrying patients to enhance the hospital’s profitability. She did this under the guise of improving the health care of the Southside residents. In 2006, in conjunction with this scheme, Obama persuaded the hospital to hire lawyer and extremely skillful public relations mastermind, David Axelrod, to conjure up a publicity campaign to market this fallacious program to the poor black community, and make it not only palatable but highly desirable.  Axelrod is now Barack Obama’s Senior Advisor and is undoubtedly masterminding the publicity behind the current healthcare scam the Obamas are attempting to hoist on the rest of the country after the test run in Chicago, a city tarnished by its corrupt political shenanigans.

Dr. Manning, an African American, has called Obama a “good House Negro” and a “long-legged Mack daddy,” and an “emissary of the devil.” When Dr. Manning gave an interview on Fox News, he said, “We also have to talk about his character.” Dr. Manning has also questioned Obama’s eligibility to serve as U.S. President due to the fact that Obama has not complied with numerous requests to reveal his birth records. In fact, Obama has spent thousands of dollars in an attempt to conceal those records.

Dr. Manning, using information from hired investigators declares that Obama never attended Columbia University. He asserts the following:
 1) “Columbia University will not divulge whether the “alleged” diploma issued was in the name of Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama. No public record exists regarding the diploma.”


2) “Obama alleges he attended Columbia in 1982, 1983. But, the investigators have been UNABLE to turn up a single shred of written documentation for the years 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 that show where Obama appeared on a school roster, register, faculty memo, bulletin board, school awards, dean’s list; where Obama’s name appeared in a yearbook, club record, fraternity record, extracurricular activity member roster, student newspaper, student radio or TV activity; where Obama appeared in any records as a worker, employee, laborer in or about Columbia University; where Obama enrolled in any sports activity or program.”

3) “As a graduating senior in 1983 he does not appear in any Political Science (his major) or Graduating Class yearbook or invitation records.”


4) “There is absolutely no documentation of any kind to show Obama attended, lived, worked or played at Columbia University during the investigated 4 years.”


5) “Interviewed professors, college employees, students (who were at Columbia during the years in question) have failed to turn up a single person that can remember Obama. This is irrefutable evidence. Think about your own situation if Obama had attended your college? A “now-famous” person went to your school? Many would be able to say, “Of course I remember.” At Columbia, not a single person has been able to say he or she remembers Obama.”

 
Obama’s background would have been relatively insignificant if he hadn’t been chosen as a presidential candidate by the bankers. But, with funding from George Soros and other international bankers who wish to establish global governance, he ran for office. Obviously there would be records that revealed some very personal details of his life. Passport records are particularly revealing. John O. Brennan, Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser is the owner of The Analysis Corp., the firm that was cited in March 2008 for penetrating the files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain in the State Department’s passport office. Investigators maintain that the target of this illegal activity was Obama’s passport file for the sole purpose of cleansing the records of information that would jeopardize Obama’s candidacy. The breach of the passport records of the other candidates was to create confusion. Brennan was, at the time, an unpaid advisor working with Obama’s campaign. Passport files include an applicant’s name, gender, social security number, date and place of birth, and passport number. Additional information may include birth certificates, naturalization certificates, or oaths of allegiance for U.S.-born persons who adopted the citizenship of a foreign country as minors. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee oversees the State Department. Joseph Biden, now Obama’s Vice President, was the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at the time of the breach.

The State Department passport records were scrubbed to erase any mention of Obama’s CIA activities and his personal information. The State Department employee, Lt. Quarle Harris, Jr. who had access and apparently scrubbed the records, was killed.  Harris decided to cooperate with the FBI who was investigating the break-in. His body was discovered in his parked car; he had been shot in the head, execution style.  The Indonesian passport, issued in the name of Barry Soetoro, was used to travel to Pakistan to assist the Afghan Mujahideen during the U.S. buildup.

The CIA is not an intelligence-gathering agency. The Truman Administration authorized “psychological warfare” by the newly established National Security Council in NSC 4-A of December 1947 which allowed covert operations during peacetime. This document made the CIA Director responsible for psychological warfare and placed it under the exclusive direction of the Executive Branch. The CIA has unvouchered funds which allow the agency to operate without exposure or Congressional oversight.

With pressure from the Departments of State and Defense, a new NSC directive, NSC 10/2 was issued on June 18, 1948. This new directive stipulated that the CIA could conduct “covert” and “psychological” operations both of which were sponsored by the U.S. Government against foreign states or groups. However, these activities should be “planned and executed in such a way as to provide plausible deniability if revealed. Approved CIA clandestine activities, according to the directive, include “propaganda; economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance movements, guerrillas and refugee liberation groups, and support of indigenous anti-Communist elements in threatened countries of the free world. Such operations should not include armed conflict by recognized military forces, espionage, counter-espionage, and cover and deception for military operations.”

During the 2008 presidential change-promising campaign Obama avoided detailed questions about his alleged years at Columbia by saying that he was very anti-social and totally uninvolved with the academic community. Further, he claimed that he lived off campus. For someone who loves the limelight and never misses an opportunity to engage in rhetoric, it is an enigma that he would isolate himself from typical college activities unless, of course, that is simply justification to account for his absence during the time that he was supposed to be attending Columbia. Okay, if Obama was a CIA operative who, with political connections, super funding and media puffing, made it to the White House – is he still a CIA operative bent on destroying what is left of the economy of the U.S.? The CIA was established by Harry Truman, a 33rd Degree Freemason, to implement global governance. Freemasonry is a front group for the satanical organization, the Illuminati whose objectives are world governance.

In mid-February 2010, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs alerted the reporters who regularly cover the White House that certain questions were forbidden including Obama’s job with CIA front company, Business International Corporation (BIC), following his attendance at Columbia University; Obama’s school records while he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles from 1979 to 1981, and his records at Columbia.  Wayne Madsen states that his Kabul sources claim that President Obama has maintained a personal correspondence with a private military company (PMC) whose senior personnel includes numerous Afghan Mujahideen-Soviet war veterans who fought with the late Northern Alliance commander Ahmad Shah Massoud who became Afghanistan’s Defense Minister in 1992 and was assassinated on September 9, 2001, allegedly by al-Qaeda agents. The firm is also involved in counter-insurgency operations in Colombia, where Obama is allegedly building seven new military bases, and in Iraq. 

Henry Kissinger said, “Conflicts across the globe and an international respect for Barack Obama have created the perfect setting for the establishment of ‘a New World Order.”  Allegedly, the upper echelon of Freemasonry was infiltrated long ago by the Satanic Illuminati whose objective is world dominance through one-world governance.  There are claims that Barack Obama is a 32nd degree Prince Hall Freemason. Certainly, Prince Hall Freemasons, Jesse Jackson and Charles Rangel, supported his presidency.   Whether he is a Freemason or not, he might indeed be the chosen vessel of the New World Order proponents unless the citizens call a halt to the scheme. However, there is no doubt that he is a Zionist asset who has surrounded himself with Zionists like Rahm Emanuel, a duel citizen of both Israel and the U.S., a questionable allegiance the Supreme Court would not acquiesce to with our close neighbor, Mexico. And, that despite his campaign promises, intends to pursue the same aggressive Neo-Con policies in the Middle East as the previous administration, as evidenced by his speech  before the 2008 AIPAC Policy Conference where he was introduced by his friend, Lee Rosenberg, a fellow Chicago resident, probably living in the same neighborhood.   Jerusalem's newspaper, Ha’aretz, dated November 13, 2008, reported, “In the Chicago Jewish community many people really are long-time friends” of Obama. “Some of the older people in the community say that they ‘raised him,’ while others half-jokingly call Obama ‘the first Jewish president.’” Dr. Henry Makow wrote, “The Illuminati can take a particular child and manipulate things from behind the scenes and open all the right doors for this person, and they can get them the grants and the schooling and everything they need and adding impetus to this person’s career is the mind control that is steering them in that direction too. The end product is you end up with somebody who is an engineer or a lawyer or a politician who is very highly qualified for what they are doing. Barack Obama fits this description.”   Dr. Manning hopes that thousands of people will support this effort, one that will benefit every single American.

   



 
CIA Columbia Obama Cover Up, a You Tube video that features the Honorable James David Manning who is leading the efforts in the Obama Columbia Treason Trial,
 

Peoples’ Friendship University of Russia, PFUR History, http://www.pfu.edu.ru/en/?pagec=49

First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review by Fox Butterfield,  The New York Times, February 6, 1990

CIA Columbia Obama Cover Up, a You Tube video that features the Honorable James David Manning who is leading the efforts in the Obama Columbia Treason Trial,


What happened to Michelle Obama's law license?, First lady's legal career on 'court ordered inactive status' by Chelsea Schilling, World Net Daily, August 4, 2009, http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105998

The Obamacare Horror Story You Won't Hear by Michelle Malkin, June 19, 2009,  http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/michelle-obamadavid-axelrodin...

Investigators declare, “Obama never attended Columbia University,” February 8, 2010, http://americangrandjury.org/category/columbia-trial

Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach, Newsmax, January 12, 2009, http://newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/brennan-passport-breach/2009/01/12/...

CIA Columbia Obama Cover Up, a You Tube video that features the Honorable James David Manning who is leading the efforts in the Obama Columbia Treason Trial,


Key Witness in Passport Fraud Case Fatally Shot, The Washington Times, April 19, 2008, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-pass...

WH Press Corps Forbidden to Ask Certain Questions by Wayne Madsen of the Wayne Madsen Report, The Rock Creek Press, February 17, 2010, http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/394159844/wh-press-corps-...

Note on U.S. Covert Actions, U.S. State Department, http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/johnsonlb/xxxii/44504.htm

WH Press Corps Forbidden to Ask Certain Questions by Wayne Madsen of the Wayne Madsen Report, The Rock Creek Press, February 17, 2010, http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/394159844/wh-press-corps-...

Kissinger: Obama primed to create 'New World Order', Policy Guru Says Global Upheaval Presents 'Great Opportunity' by Drew Zahn, World Net Daily, January 06, 2009

Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Michigan, Prince Hall Affiliation, Notable Prince Hall Masons, http://miphgl.org/mi/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&...

Barack Obama’s Speech to AIPAC’s Policy Conference, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6471073053670305892&ei ...

Illuminati, the Cult that Hijacked the World by Dr. Henry Makow, Silas Green, Winnipeg, Canada, 2008, p. 72

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1599 on: May 27, 2011, 08:17:47 PM »
His Name Is Not President Barack Obama... It's President Barry Soetoro Soebarkah
Posted by Sarah Roman on May 16, 2011 at 4:52pm
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Alright Patriots... I'm going to try & sum this up the easiest way I know how.  Please read this & really try to understand the facts presented.

For sake of trying to make the case point we will ASSUME that Obama was indeed a "natural born citizen" (which we all know this is not true).  But anyway... here are the FACTS!!!
Obama moved to Indonesia with his mother & step-father when he was a child.
Indonesia did not allow people that were US citizens to enroll in school at that time.
Indonesian school records show that Obama's name was "Barry Soetoro".
His mother's passport records show that his name was "Barry Soetoro Soebarkah".
Hawaii adoption laws state that an individual cannot obtain ANY ORIGINAL birth certificate or birth records if they have been adopted.  The reason is because the original documents have been sealed.  The only way for an individual to obtain his/her birth records is if BOTH paternal parents sign that they agree for the original documents to be released.
Both of Obama's parents are deceased.  Thus, there is no way for Obama to obtain any original records.
The media continuously lied to us about Hawaiian's not being able to get their original certificates.  (We found this out to be a lie when other Hawaiian's went & obtained their original documents after it was announced that they could not do so.
Where is the documentation showing that "Barry Soetoro" changed his name back to "Barack Obama"?

Why is all of the above information of any significance?

Because if Barack Obama was indeed adopted by Lolo Soetoro he lost his "natural born citizen" rights.  It also means that his name was changed to "Barry Soetoro Soebarkah".  Which means that "Barry Soetoro Soebarkah" should have paperwork proving that he has changed his name back to "Barack Obama".  Which means that our current President of the United States of America could very well be an Indonesian citizen by the name of "Barry Soetoro Soebarkah".