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Title: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Nails on September 27, 2012, 04:33:21 PM
after he dropped all the money, and nobody is left to cheer for him, now he was to denounce the sport that gave him everything



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/super-bowl-winning-quarterback-jim-mcmahon-says-wishes-192055029--nfl.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/super-bowl-winning-quarterback-jim-mcmahon-says-wishes-192055029--nfl.html)





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In my family, the members of the 1985 Super Bowl-winning Chicago Bears team ranked just slightly behind the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost. In fact, as a 6-year-old I was taught the "Super Bowl Shuffle" by a Franciscan nun, so that ranking could be muddled at times. Walter Payton was at the top of the list, but I couldn't help but be crazy about the rebellious, mouthy, "Punky QB known as McMahon."

The way he would play football made me misunderstand the quarterback's role as a child. Aren't all quarterbacks supposed to jump over the top of the pile? Don't they all take punishing hits then pop back up for more? Why would a quarterback slide for a first down when he could get an extra half-yard by taking the big hit?

During his career with the Bears, Philadelphia Eagles and other teams, McMahon never started a full season. His tough and sometimes reckless style of play meant he suffered many, many injuries. Now, 16 years after he retired, he is experiencing an injury that can't be fixed by a surgery or therapy.

At 53, McMahon is in the early stages of dementia. He is part of the group suing the NFL that says they hid the effects of concussions. Though his career resulted in a Super Bowl ring and a Pro Bowl appearance, he still says he would have played baseball if he knew what concussions would do to him.

    "Being injured, if you don't play, you don't get paid. If I was able to walk out on that field, I was gonna play," he said in an interview with Chicago's WFLD-TV at his Arizona home. "Had I known about that stuff early on in my career, I probably would have chosen a different career. I always wanted to be a baseball player anyway."

McMahon played football while at Brigham Young University, but said he would have stuck with baseball had he received a scholarship for that sport.

He is a group of more than 2,000 players who need help from the NFL after concussions have filled their retirement with dementia, memory loss, and in some cases, a bitter end. McMahon's teammate, Dave Duerson, committed suicide and asked for his brain to be studied. He was found to have chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the same disease found in other players who have died under tragic circumstances.

The NFL has made strides in improving how concussions and head injuries are treated. Though problems still exist, like Colt McCoy being sent back in the game last season when he was not healthy, the culture around head traumas is changing.

But the retired players who sacrificed their bodies to create the exciting game we all know and love today should not be forgotten. When one of them says he wishes he didn't even play the game that won him fame, it's a cry for help that should not go unheeded.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Shockwave on September 27, 2012, 04:36:43 PM
Wow, what an idiot.

"I didn't know repeated blows to the head could cause brain damage, you better give me money!" Herp derp.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: SLYY on September 27, 2012, 04:37:44 PM
Wow, what an idiot.

"I didn't know repeated blows to the head could cause brain damage, you better give me money!" Herp derp.

That is not what the issue is about.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: arce1988 on September 27, 2012, 04:38:14 PM
  Set Foot
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Shockwave on September 27, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
That is not what the issue is about.
Whats it about then? It's common fucking sense, thats a risk you take anytime you set foot into any contact sport. You don't see Ali suing the Boxing federations for his condition.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: MB on September 27, 2012, 04:42:36 PM
Go back to leather helmets.  That would eliminate defenders launching with their head instead of tackling.  
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Marty Champions on September 27, 2012, 04:43:05 PM
we all break down as we go through life some are better at finding coping mechanisms, he doesnt seem like one of them

some people just give up, blame others, blame god

its up to the individual to do what he can to solve whatever ails him.

maybe one day ill be in a position like his with lung cancer from breathing in too much dust and paint fumes in the work area, but im not gonna blame the world if im dieing, ill probably just eat more vegetables and carrot juice and not be such a pussy putting the blame on others
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: calfzilla on September 27, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
I care about people who work real jobs not these rich spoiled athletes.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Howard on September 27, 2012, 04:45:55 PM
A similar logic can be used when it comes to pro bodybuilding.
I knew what it took to get to the next level when I competed in my prime.
I dabbled in moderate amounts of juice but said "F it" after 3 yrs.
I loved bodybuilding but I refused to use the amount of drugs it might take .

Unlike football's  McMahn or bodybuilder Jay Cutler, I didn't think I was gifted enough to be a pro anyway.
For me it was a "no brainer" to give up on the pro BB goal path.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Marty Champions on September 27, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
I care about people who work real jobs not these rich spoiled athletes.

x2

i agree but we also gotta act better than them to teach them by showing these dumb spoiled athletes some compassion as in an email telling him to read Jeahn fehlcan's dietary advices posts on getbig to avoid dementia and cancer
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: SLYY on September 27, 2012, 04:55:03 PM
Whats it about then? It's common fucking sense, thats a risk you take anytime you set foot into any contact sport. You don't see Ali suing the Boxing federations for his condition.

The issue has to do with the NFL's knowledge of concussions during the years McMahon played and earlier.  It is alleged that the NFL knew that when a player gets a concussion, they should be taken out of the game and rest of x amount of days.  While the NFL was armed with this knowledge, they allegedly told the trainers and doctors to give the players immediately clearance to continue playing.  It is alleged that the NFL did this to keep players playing and therefore, to make more money.  Many of the players from 20+ years ago are suffering from dementia and the like because they didn't get the requisite time off after suffering concussions.  Again, it's being alleged that the NFL knew this would be the result and not only withheld the information from the players, but also told the trainers and doctors to give the players clearance.  How can this be proven?  I don't know, we will have to stay tuned.

Regarding the idea that getting a concussion and continuing to play football is common sense, look at high school, college, and the NFL's serious rule change regarding concussions.  If a player gets a concussion nowadays, they don't go near the field.  This story was all over the news a few years back because IT WAS NEWS.  Prior to a few years ago, players would get a concussion and continue because they were manly....or in the NFL's case...because the doctors cleared them when they shouldn't have done so.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Shockwave on September 27, 2012, 04:59:22 PM
The issue has to do with the NFL's knowledge of concussions during the years McMahon played and earlier.  It is alleged that the NFL knew that when a player gets a concussion, they should be taken out of the game and rest of x amount of days.  While the NFL was armed with this knowledge, they allegedly told the trainers and doctors to give the players immediately clearance to continue playing.  It is alleged that the NFL did this to keep players playing and therefore, to make more money.  Many of the players from 20+ years ago are suffering from dementia and the like because they didn't get the requisite time off after suffering concussions.  Again, it's being alleged that the NFL knew this would be the result and not only withheld the information from the players, but also told the trainers and doctors to give the players clearance.  How can this be proven?  I don't know, we will have to stay tuned.

Regarding the idea that getting a concussion and continuing to play football is common sense, look at high school, college, and the NFL's serious rule change regarding concussions.  If a player gets a concussion nowadays, they don't go near the field.  This story was all over the news a few years back because IT WAS NEWS.  Prior to a few years ago, players would get a concussion and continue because they were manly....or in the NFL's case...because the doctors cleared them when they shouldn't have done so.
It seems to me that if you have a concussion, its a personal choice to go back onto the football field, and no one is responsible for a personal decision other than the person themselves. I understand what you're saying though.

If the docs LIED to them and said they'd be fine (without knowing better), thats one thing. But how many stories have we heard about players begging docs to let them go back out and play, even though they may not be 100% healed?
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: SLYY on September 27, 2012, 05:06:04 PM
It seems to me that if you have a concussion, its a personal choice to go back onto the football field, and no one is responsible for a personal decision other than the person themselves. I understand what you're saying though.

If the docs LIED to them and said they'd be fine (without knowing better), thats one thing. But how many stories have we heard about players begging docs to let them go back out and play, even though they may not be 100% healed?

I'm sure many players wanted to get back in and play no matter what the doctor said.  The issue here is whether the NFL should have disallowed that, at least with regard to concussions.  The answer will not only be based on whether the allegations against the NFL are true, but whether they can be proven.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: mame09 on September 27, 2012, 05:08:52 PM
NFL is a very careless and dangerous sport with world class athletes

i barely watch NFL so i watched a game last week and i couldnt believe

the dangerous tackles happening, no technique in tackling what so ever with too many head clashes


put these athletes in rugby league and you would have the greatest football team ever lol
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: tommywishbone on September 27, 2012, 05:14:54 PM
Or. . . ."I am broke because I was an idiot, listen to my sob story".
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: doison on September 27, 2012, 05:17:30 PM
It's not up to ourselves to take care of ourselves.  It's up to others to keep us safe. 
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: SLYY on September 27, 2012, 05:22:06 PM
It's not up to ourselves to take care of ourselves.  It's up to others to keep us safe.  

Let's get rid of the police and military.  Hey Doison, maybe we can start a getbig militia?
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Nails on September 27, 2012, 05:54:53 PM
Daaaaaaaaamn!!!! Punt returner from the Cleveland browns just died on the field !!!!
Lights out!

Hope dude gets up
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on September 27, 2012, 05:55:50 PM
Daaaaaaaaamn!!!! Punt returner from the Cleveland browns just died on the field !!!!
Lights out!

Hope dude gets up

yea

and got spiked in the face with his helmet off  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Archer77 on September 27, 2012, 05:57:49 PM
I don't understand these sports guys.  Save your money and fuck the bitches.  The bitches will fuck you for FREE.   Don't use heavy narcotics and buy shit you can't afford.  It works for the rest of us and it will work for you too.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Shockwave on September 27, 2012, 06:35:40 PM
Daaaaaaaaamn!!!! Punt returner from the Cleveland browns just died on the field !!!!
Lights out!

Hope dude gets up
Is he ok?
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: jude2 on September 27, 2012, 06:39:38 PM
Go back to leather helmets.  That would eliminate defenders launching with their head instead of tackling.  
THis, maybe they will start tackling correctly.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: TrapsMcLats on September 27, 2012, 06:44:59 PM
What's his family history with dementia?  before he gets to suing, he should look into that.  A lot of people have early onset dementia...but they never had the chance to be rich and famous. he should just be appreciative and keep quiet.  88 and 89 49ers were better than 86 bears, too.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: SLYY on September 27, 2012, 07:07:31 PM
What's his family history with dementia?  before he gets to suing, he should look into that.  A lot of people have early onset dementia...but they never had the chance to be rich and famous. he should just be appreciative and keep quiet.  88 and 89 49ers were better than 86 bears, too.

More than 2,000 former NFL players are suing due to the NFL allegedly withholding information regarding the link between concussions and long-term brain injuries.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: MAXX on September 27, 2012, 07:35:51 PM
imagine how many dementia cases mma will have in a few years.

some of the oldschool already has

Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
The reason my kid plays only one sport...baseball.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: doison on September 28, 2012, 04:58:07 AM
The reason my kid plays only one sport...baseball.

That way he can remain a genius his whole life!

Do they place the kids by height or age out there?
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: epic_alien on September 28, 2012, 07:34:25 AM
The issue has to do with the NFL's knowledge of concussions during the years McMahon played and earlier.  It is alleged that the NFL knew that when a player gets a concussion, they should be taken out of the game and rest of x amount of days.  While the NFL was armed with this knowledge, they allegedly told the trainers and doctors to give the players immediately clearance to continue playing.  It is alleged that the NFL did this to keep players playing and therefore, to make more money.  Many of the players from 20+ years ago are suffering from dementia and the like because they didn't get the requisite time off after suffering concussions.  Again, it's being alleged that the NFL knew this would be the result and not only withheld the information from the players, but also told the trainers and doctors to give the players clearance.  How can this be proven?  I don't know, we will have to stay tuned.

Regarding the idea that getting a concussion and continuing to play football is common sense, look at high school, college, and the NFL's serious rule change regarding concussions.  If a player gets a concussion nowadays, they don't go near the field.  This story was all over the news a few years back because IT WAS NEWS.  Prior to a few years ago, players would get a concussion and continue because they were manly....or in the NFL's case...because the doctors cleared them when they shouldn't have done so.

the players signed waivers to play. they wanted to play, its normal to want to keep going when your the best at what you do, regardless of consequences. no one forced them to play, doctors dont control anyone,
by the way are you obama supporter, and on welfare?
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: dr.chimps on September 28, 2012, 07:36:53 AM
I once met a guy that played with McMahon, and I asked him if Jim was a loon or was it an act. He just shook his head, rolled his eyes, and said it was no act; the guy was out there. 
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: SLYY on September 28, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
the players signed waivers to play. they wanted to play, its normal to want to keep going when your the best at what you do, regardless of consequences. no one forced them to play, doctors dont control anyone,
by the way are you obama supporter, and on welfare?

Your inability to comprehend the difference between an explanation and a stance on an issue is anything but amusing; in fact, it’s a clear indication that our tax paying remedial reading classes are unsuccessful.  Moreover, your waiver comment sheds light on your ignorance regarding the law and what is being alleged by the NFL players.  I would suggest you put your magic panties on and discuss less complicated subject matter.   
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Howard on September 28, 2012, 10:57:14 AM
I'm sure many players wanted to get back in and play no matter what the doctor said.  The issue here is whether the NFL should have disallowed that, at least with regard to concussions.  The answer will not only the based on whether the allegations against the NFL are true, but whether they can be proven.

Interesting if the NFL could be liable for ALLOWING these men to play with head injuries ?
I often wonder if the IFBB could be liable for allowing the pros to use unlimited banned drugs with no actual testing?
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: Howard on September 28, 2012, 11:03:20 AM
Your inability to comprehend the difference between an explanation and a stance on an issue is anything but amusing; in fact, it’s a clear indication that our tax paying remedial reading classes are unsuccessful.  Moreover, your waiver comment sheds light on your ignorance regarding the law and what is being alleged by the NFL players.  I would suggest you put your magic panties on and discuss less complicated subject matter.   
BINGO! I would assume the case hinges on how RESONSIBLE the courts consider the NFL to be in this matter.
If they knowingly allowed and therefore approved of men with concussions  playing , was a serious risk, they could be liable.

I don't think it is legal to have any organization approve and sanction activity that is a clear and obvious danger to the parties involved.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: orion on September 29, 2012, 03:54:57 PM
Very sad to see.  He was a pussy pulling machine in his heydey.  I enjoyed watching him play, he drove Ditka nuts.
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: arce1988 on September 29, 2012, 04:01:36 PM
  Imagine finding a big black man rubbing you with oil   LMMFAO   :D   at Bas
Title: Re: Another Old Fart coming out wishing he never stepped foot on the Grid Iron
Post by: dr.chimps on September 29, 2012, 04:05:47 PM
ROZELLE.