"The Calorie Myth" What is TA going to do now?

[pellius]

pellius is back???

(for rereal?)

I never left. I still pop in from time to time. Watch a lot of these kids grown up here. Shocked to death about Tbombz. Well, I guess not really considering the path he was going. But it's just that I still remember him as that chubby kid on the bike. Where does the time go?

[pellius]

TA always claimed "a calorie is a calorie, but a macro is not a macro".

Welcome back.

Glad to see this 3 year debate is still alive.

Still waiting for TA's response. Maybe that will get Mindspin on here to have the last laugh. He was willing to put his money where his mouth was. TA backed down.

[The Ugly]

Yes, I remember MindSpin making this same exact point and even offered to pay TA's way to debate I think it was Bill Robbins. Alas, TA declined.

Pretty sure it was Scott Connelly.

[pellius]

Pretty sure it was Scott Connelly.

You're right. My bad.

[lightweightbaby83,]

Now that they're all back, that site is officially dead. Guess it's true. 

[Agent69]

A CALORIE IS A CALORIE  
 PROTEINS- FATS AND CARBS ARE ALL SOURCES OF ENERGY-BUT THEY ALL REACT DIFF AND HAVE DIFF FUNCTIONS ONCE IN THE BODY...THE END

[bigmc]

welcome back pellius

this was always your home 

[The True Adonis]

Still waiting for TA's response. Maybe that will get Mindspin on here to have the last laugh. He was willing to put his money where his mouth was. TA backed down.

Go back to 2006 or however far back the search engine goes.  I always maintained a calorie is a calorie, but a macronutrient is not a macronutrient.  Go ahead, search that exact phrase and watch my name and quotes pop up ad nauseam.  

If anything, it seems you need to learn to pay better attention.

Here is a random one I picked from 2007 by me:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=134504.msg1909516#msg1909516

Why don`t you post what Layne wrote.  Haven`t I always said the same thing. Caloric amount is THE most important thing. Eat what you want. You get adequate nutrients with a common, everyday diet and that you would have to PURPOSELY GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to not meet these nutritional needs.

And that a Calorie will always be a calorie, but a Macronutrient is not a Macronutrient?

I have said this time and time again.  Your comprehension skills suck, because you speak of eating jars of mayonaisse.  You are an idiot.

[The True Adonis]

Hopefully this will be the last time I have to address this.  (although I said that about one hundred times ago, so I am sure it will happen again, even by the same people since they are unable to comprehend it the other 99 times)

[bigmc]

Hopefully this will be the last time I have to address this.  (although I said that about one hundred times ago, so I am sure it will happen again, even by the same people since they are unable to comprehend it the other 99 times)

you need to set up a study adam

a college or university might be interested in it

then you could prove it with science

[The True Adonis]

you need to set up a study adam

a college or university might be interested in it

then you could prove it with science

Its already been done and I helped Mark Haub,  Department Head of Human Nutrition at Kansas State, with a lot of it.  He also uses my examples for his classes and even took my approach to the national news using some pictures I had sent him.  I never was able to find the story online, he said it aired on CNN.  I have all of the email correspondence and check in with Professor Haub from time to to time still.

[The True Adonis]

[bigmc]

Its already been done and I helped Mark Haub,  Department Head of Human Nutrition at Kansas State, with a lot of it.  He also uses my examples for his classes and even took my approach to the national news using some pictures I had sent him.  I never was able to find the story online, he said it aired on CNN.  I have all of the email correspondence and check in with Professor Haub from time to to time still.

what were the end results

the video below is more of an introduction

in my experience if i eat crap i get tired and lose energy

[galeniko]

well yes a calorie is a calorie.

adam never said you could have pure beer diet and be jacled and shredded

[The True Adonis]

what were the end results

the video below is more of an introduction

in my experience if i eat crap i get tired and lose energy

Lost 27 lbs in two months, all body fat and his health greatly improved.

His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

[The True Adonis]

what were the end results

the video below is more of an introduction

in my experience if i eat crap i get tired and lose energy

You might like this.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Prof-Haubs-Diet-Experiments/152304481454281

[che]

adam never said you could have pure beer diet and be jacled and shredded

 He did say that in the beginning .

[che]

The macro is not  a macro came after the  original  Adonis' principles were debunked on Getbig.

It's all here
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=116164.75

if a calorie is just a calorie ,how about a only '' beer'' diet

That works just fine.

I'm going to have to jump in on this. Okay I agree with the principle of calories in should be less than calories out to cut up. But from a nutrition standpoint are your muscles going to grow on a  3500 calorie a day diet made of Krispy Kremes, and your bodyfat lower while you cardio your fat ass off? No, you're going to look like a bag of crap. Your body needs certain nutrients for every day processes such as bone and muscle repair/growth, vitamin processing and absorption, etc...a calorie in is not necessarily a calorie...If this concept of his was true I could eat 5 or 6 Krispy Kreme's every day while dieting and win shows. Please prove this to me so I can change the diet my trainer has me on!!!

You sure can.

Want me to post my diet logs?

[wes]

Yup!

At first Adam was trolling,but then he switched it up later on, and probably does practice what he preaches these days.

[The True Adonis]

The macro is not  a macro came after the  original  Adonis' principles were debunked on Getbig.

It's all here
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=116164.75

I also recommended a cardboard box only diet with the beer only diet. 

You, as always = easily gullible.

[dustin]

I never understood how these threads end up being a hundred pages long with death threats.

A calorie is a calorie. But when it comes to body composition, you need to mind those calories ever so slightly. You don't need to watch every macro or go on any insane "diets", you just need to eat in alignment with what you've done that day, what you plan on doing and what your goals are. Just a tiny little adjustment here and there.

Virtually no brain power is required. Look at a plate with some meat, carbs, veg and you should be able to eye out what's appropriate. And as for "junk food", the leaner you are or the more active you are the more liberal you can be. I eat junk food at least twice per day and site very comfortably under 10% body fat. Haven't been "fatter" than that in years. When I diet, I just eat candy once per day, sometimes more actually...

People also underestimate stress and body composition. The more stressed you are, the more you'll look like shit. I see fat whales at work eating company cake on a special occasion and you can see them almost balloon. I'll go eat 10 pieces and feel happy as a clam, veins sticking out everywhere and shoulders popping. Never stress over food. If it's "bad food" chalk it up to an investment in your happiness.

[The True Adonis]

I never understood how these threads end up being a hundred pages long with death threats.

A calorie is a calorie. But when it comes to body composition, you need to mind those calories ever so slightly. You don't need to watch every macro or go on any insane "diets", you just need to eat in alignment with what you've done that day, what you plan on doing and what your goals are. Just a tiny little adjustment here and there.

Virtually no brain power is required. Look at a plate with some meat, carbs, veg and you should be able to eye out what's appropriate. And as for "junk food", the leaner you are or the more active you are the more liberal you can be. I eat junk food at least twice per day and site very comfortably under 10% body fat. Haven't been "fatter" than that in years. When I diet, I just eat candy once per day, sometimes more actually...

People also underestimate stress and body composition. The more stressed you are, the more you'll look like shit. I see fat whales at work eating company cake on a special occasion and you can see them almost balloon. I'll go eat 10 pieces and feel happy as a clam, veins sticking out everywhere and shoulders popping. Never stress over food. If it's "bad food" chalk it up to an investment in your happiness.

We have a winner!

[dustin]

We have a winner!

Can I have my cake and eat it too???

[The Showstoppa]

Penniless. 

[tommywishbone]

So a cupcake and a chicken breast aren't the same?  Thanks for the clarification.