Ron Paul - South Carolina Debate Highlights

[MCWAY]

How is denying a women`s right to choose to have an abortion "Liberty for all"?

There ain't no liberty for the baby being dismembered.

And, per abortion laws in certain parts, you can kill the baby all the way to the 9th month, as long as the head is still inside the womb. My son was in the womb 8 months and a week, before he was born. If somebody had dared claimed that he wasn't really a baby and it was alright to abort him, I'd might be in jail because that person could have walked away with a black eye and a fat lip.

Heck, there was one case where a woman killed her baby outside the womb but wasn't charged with murder, simply because the umbillical cord hadn't been cut.

That ain't liberty for all.

[Deicide]

There ain't no liberty for the baby being dismembered.

And, per abortion laws in certain parts, you can kill the baby all the way to the 9th month, as long as the head is still inside the womb. My son was in the womb 8 months and a week, before he was born. If somebody had dared claimed that he wasn't really a baby and it was alright to abort him, I'd might be in jail because that person could have walked away with a black eye and a fat lip.

Heck, there was one case where a woman killed her baby outside the womb but wasn't charged with murder, simply because the umbillical cord hadn't been cut.

That ain't liberty for all.

You are scary. Many Christians like you live under a thin tissue of extremely violent tendencies; you seem to be one of them.

[MCWAY]

You are scary. Many Christians like you live under a thin tissue of extremely violent tendencies; you seem to be one of them.

When it comes to someone messing with my family, I will get violent. That's what fathers do.

[Deicide]

When it comes to someone messing with my family, I will get violent. That's what fathers criminals do.

Fixed.

[Soul Crusher]

Its amazing to me how leftists try to separate individual liberty from economic liberty as if the two are really much different.   

Truly bizarre.   


GET OUT OF MY WALLET, GET OUT OF BEDROOM, GET OUT OF MY WAY!   

[whork25]

There ain't no liberty for the baby being dismembered.

And, per abortion laws in certain parts, you can kill the baby all the way to the 9th month, as long as the head is still inside the womb. My son was in the womb 8 months and a week, before he was born. If somebody had dared claimed that he wasn't really a baby and it was alright to abort him, I'd might be in jail because that person could have walked away with a black eye and a fat lip.

Heck, there was one case where a woman killed her baby outside the womb but wasn't charged with murder, simply because the umbillical cord hadn't been cut.

That ain't liberty for all.

Hahaha

[Deicide]

Its amazing to me how leftists try to separate individual liberty from economic liberty as if the two are really much different.   

Truly bizarre.   


GET OUT OF MY WALLET, GET OUT OF BEDROOM, GET OUT OF MY WAY!   

You should argue with MCWAY, he is the same, just the reverse.

[MCWAY]

Fixed.

That's Deicide for you. Someone assaults his family or tries to harm them and he's going to just sit there and postulate and pontificate about the situation.

[whork25]

You should argue with MCWAY, he is the same, just the reverse.

If thats your stand you should be a progressive

Repub are just as bad as liberals in controlling peoples lives

Ron Paul not included

[Mr. Magoo]

Yawn - you libs are really a hoot.   In a free market society, the bad corps go bankrupt and go away.   The bad actors get prosecuted for fraud and crimes where they exist. 

In the corporatist model as supported by most big govt types, corps are an extension of the state and failure is subsidized and rewarded at the expense of the taxpayer. 

GE, Goldman, AIG, GM anyone?       

"In a free market society, the bad corps go bankrupt and go away". This is not true, especially in a global market. I explained this to you in that thread from a couple of days ago. We as citizens cannot know what corporations do in the same way that we can tell how good a job the town blacksmith did. The bad actors do NOT get prosecuted. The bad actors make huge political campaign donations to politicans who then go on letterman and spout off nonsense about how the corporations are paying too many taxes (Rand Paul did this). The amount of harm to personal liberty and democracy that is done by these corporations are astounding. Conservatives spend too much time worry about unions and government oppressing them when they should be worried about preventing corporations from doing the same.

The liberals who want a bigger government want it in order to restrain corporations from harming those in society who aren't wealthy enough to influence political decisions.

[Soul Crusher]

"In a free market society, the bad corps go bankrupt and go away". This is not true, especially in a global market. I explained this to you in that thread from a couple of days ago. We as citizens cannot know what corporations do in the same way that we can tell how good a job the town blacksmith did. The bad actors do NOT get prosecuted. The bad actors make huge political campaign donations to politicans who then go on letterman and spout off nonsense about how the corporations are paying too many taxes (Rand Paul did this). The amount of harm to personal liberty and democracy that is done by these corporations are astounding. Conservatives spend too much time worry about unions and government oppressing them when they should be worried about preventing corporations from doing the same.

The liberals who want a bigger government want it in order to restrain corporations from harming those in society who aren't wealthy enough to influence political decisions.

Yawn - gmafb - how old are you?   

And guess who pays for all this nonsense?   

BTW - its clear that the liberal model is failure. 

  The top five states for business in 2011, according to the magazine:

1) Texas

2) North Carolina

3) Florida

4) Tennessee

5) Georgia

The five worst states:

46) Michigan

47) New Jersey

48) Illinois

49) New York

50) California

[The True Adonis]

Yawn - gmafb - how old are you?  

And guess who pays for all this nonsense?  

BTW - its clear that the liberal model is failure.  

  The top five states for business in 2011, according to the magazine:

1) Texas

2) North Carolina

3) Florida

4) Tennessee

5) Georgia

The five worst states:

46) Michigan

47) New Jersey

48) Illinois

49) New York

50) California

Uh, North Carolina is a blue state, overwhelmingly so.

[Mr. Magoo]

In North Carolina as of May 6, 2011

Registered Voters:
Democratic: 2,706,384 Republican: 1,924,873

I can only speak for NC but the triangle area (where the jobs are at in the state) is vastly more liberal than conservative.

[The True Adonis]

In North Carolina as of May 6, 2011

Registered Voters:
Democratic: 2,706,384 Republican: 1,924,873

I can only speak for NC but the triangle area (where the jobs are at in the state) is vastly more liberal than conservative.

ROFLMAO,

I was just about to post that.


http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/
Voter Registration as of 05/06/2011 Democratic: 2,706,384 Republican: 1,924,873 Libertarian: 10,677 Unaffiliated: 1,456,235 Total: 6,098,169

[MCWAY]

Uh, North Carolina is a blue state, overwhelmingly so.

333386 is referring to states that are DEEP blue and have been for years. North Carolina and Florida just flipped blue in 2008 but they've historically been red (and will likely go red in 2012).

[Soul Crusher]

1 out of 5 and you are jumping up?   Look at the bottom 5! 

[The True Adonis]

333386 is referring to states that are DEEP blue and have been for years. North Carolina and Florida just flipped blue in 2008 but they've historically been red (and will likely go red in 2012).

Not really.


http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/
Voter Registration as of 05/06/2011 Democratic: 2,706,384 Republican: 1,924,873 Libertarian: 10,677 Unaffiliated: 1,456,235 Total: 6,098,169

[Soul Crusher]

Not really.


http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/
Voter Registration as of 05/06/2011 Democratic: 2,706,384 Republican: 1,924,873 Libertarian: 10,677 Unaffiliated: 1,456,235 Total: 6,098,169

Not all southern dems are socialist freaks like obama.    By the way - in 2012 - bama is going to get wiped out in the south. 

[The True Adonis]

Not all southern dems are socialist freaks like obama.    By the way - in 2012 - bama is going to get wiped out in the south. 

Nah.  I can already tell you thats not gonna happen at all. 

[Soul Crusher]

Nah.  I can already tell you thats not gonna happen at all. 

You guys make me laugh.   

Bama won in 2008 in what was a perfect storm for any dem, and even at that he only won by 6 points.  Not 10, 20, 15, but 6 points against a horrible candidate who suspended his campaign.   Bama didnt have a record to run on and now he does, which is horrendous.   in 2012, Bush fatigue is a non issue, bama cant claim to be anti war candidate, UE will still be far higher than the day he took office, inflation rampant, etc.   

So long as the GOP runs a semi decent campaign, he is done.   

[MCWAY]

Not really.


http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/
Voter Registration as of 05/06/2011 Democratic: 2,706,384 Republican: 1,924,873 Libertarian: 10,677 Unaffiliated: 1,456,235 Total: 6,098,169

REALLY!!!

When was NC blue, prior to 2008 again?

Furthermore, as 333386 said, Obama is toast in North Carolina in 2012. Let's see how many of those Dems stay home or flip for the GOP candidate, after seeing Obama flounder and their state suffering as a result. It's not so much who's registered, it's who ACTUALLY SHOWS UP on election day. Black voters (almost all of whom are Dems), tend to be no-shows, when they aren't fired up about the Democratic nominee/incumbent. Same goes for younger voters.

More to the point, the five worst states that he mentioned are all DEEP, DEEP BLUE STATES, states that been blue for years on end. North Carolina isn't one such state. It wasn't blue until 2008.

[Deicide]

If thats your stand you should be a progressive

Repub are just as bad as liberals in controlling peoples lives

Ron Paul not included

I am neither. I am registered Independent but have strong libertarian tendencies.

[Deicide]

That's Deicide for you. Someone assaults his family or tries to harm them and he's going to just sit there and postulate and pontificate about the situation.

If somebody had dared claimed that he wasn't really a baby and it was alright to abort him, I'd might be in jail because that person could have walked away with a black eye and a fat lip.

Look again; you said you would assault someone because of an act of speech; speech inflicts no physical harm and there is (still) freedom of speech in the USA. Don't try and wriggle yourself out of this, you clearly said you would assault and injure someone because they said something that displeased you.

[MCWAY]

Look again; you said you would assault someone because of an act of speech; speech inflicts no physical harm and there is (still) freedom of speech in the USA. Don't try and wriggle yourself out of this, you clearly said you would assault and injure someone because they said something that displeased you.

Ummmm....did you happen to see the words "might" and "could" in that statement I made? And don't try to make some generic claim out of a specific statement. If I would merely assault and injure someont because they said something that displease me, YOU would be in bodycast right now.

People have said lots of stuff that "displease" me. Most of the time, I either brush them off or I say my peace. Where I draw the line is my family.

And, of course, the point that you missed was that I used that statement to make my feelings clear. Any fool who would claim that my son wasn't a baby, at 8 months and week in the womb (and thus subject to being dismembered) would get read the riot act, to say the least.

[The True Adonis]

I am neither. I am registered Manic Depressive but have strong libertarian Suicidal tendencies.

Fixed.