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Roy Jones junior just got knocked out down under by Danny Green two minutes into the first round. I know its a bodybuilding forum,so i wont go on about it, temple shot, got up but didnt recover and couldnt throw any punches back.
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I thought the ref could have left it go on a bit longer. Jones still had his guard up. I think it is time for him to retire......
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Just got back from watching it at my mates place. Danny Green is a great boxer. The fight was basically over when it was stopped. Danny probably would be better known if he had won that first fight against Marcus Bayer instead of getting DQ for headbutting (which was a fair call IMO)
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Danny has great ink.
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I know its a bodybuilding forum,so i wont go on about it...
Feel free to go on. Boxing is just as gay as bodybuilding, so you've come to the right place.
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Roy Jones was the reason I first started lifting weights.
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foxsports.com.au has the vid
Danny bloody Green.....awesome.....
to be fair, Jones is 40, but hey, hes a marquee drawcard still and it was an awesome win for Danny
suck shit Mundine btw.....
they say that Sev the Romanian gypsy is scheduled next....hahahaha
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foxsports.com.au has the vid
Danny bloody Green.....awesome.....
to be fair, Jones is 40, but hey, hes a marquee drawcard still and it was an awesome win for Danny
suck shit Mundine btw.....
they say that Sev the Romanian gypsy is scheduled next....hahahaha
I musthave hurt you pretty bad to still metion my name
I apologize..let it go
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4 year difference only
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when was this fight?
I never heard about it....
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I thought Roy Jones had retired - I had no idea he had beaten Jeff Lacy less than three months ago before this fight.
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when was this fight?
I never heard about it....
Thats when you know your career is over. From PPV to HBO to Showtime to ESPN highlights only to FOX sports highlights only during college football halftime.
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Thats when you know your career is over. From PPV to HBO to Showtime to ESPN highlights only to FOX sports highlights only during college football halftime.
yeeesh
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I'snt Roy supposed to fight Hopkins soon?
I remember driving home from AC over Columbus day weekend and seeing billboards advertising the fight on I 95. Not sure if this fight happened already, but this can't be good for the hype.
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Fight was a fix. Phantom punches from a "friend".
Saw it live. I wasn't impressed.
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I seen it too, it was a weird looking shot from the angle...like it was in the back of his head...jones fell down weird too...like cro-cop did when his leg was under him lol ..
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funny how Roy was good enough to destroy Lacy but couldnt even last a round with Green, just shows how overrated Lacy was
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You gotta watch the high resolution video on foxsports.com.au. He clearly hit him on the temple, than a barage of hits. Calling a fix is ridiculous. Jones had everything to lose and nothing to gain.
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Jones had been knocked out, or KO'ed (can't remember which), twice before. Never though him all that. Was to fight Hopkins after this "tune-up" fight with Green. The party's over, turn out the lights, for Jones.
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With Jones' style, fight at 40+ is tough. Unless your a big puncher with a hard chin and hadn't relied on speed/agility your whole career (like a Foreman or Moore), 40 is a great time to become a coach.
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ref had to stop it he started to not defend himself....
slow mo showed the punch was real, flush on the right temple...
green can't fight but he can sure hit.
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Roy at his best was almost unbeatable...only lost to himself (DQ)
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funny how Roy was good enough to destroy Lacy but couldnt even last a round with Green, just shows how overrated Lacy was
No people who follow boxing rated Lacy ever, even before Calzagie , hes one dimensional with one hand and only one punch the left hook.
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that fight was the biggest fix i have ever seen. how does roy jones in his last match talk while moving his head and not look at his opponent to getting fuked up by a nobody aussie boxer.
roy jones should quit boxing if he is going to take dives like that
its funny how green lost to mundine and mundine fights like a shittier version of jones.
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that fight was the biggest fix i have ever seen. how does roy jones in his last match talk while moving his head and not look at his opponent to getting fuked up by a nobody aussie boxer.
roy jones should quit boxing if he is going to take dives like that
its funny how green lost to mundine and mundine fights like a shittier version of jones.
He's not a nobody, he knocked down the German world champ IN Germany in both the 1st and 2nd rounds, then got DQ'd for headbutting (fair call but doesn't take away his ability as a fighter). That decision hurt him badly. He is a very good fighter just because he's on the other end of the earth and you haven't heard much of him doesn't mean he's nothing.
Mundine put off the fight for years then only did it at a lighter weight class. Green was too weak in that fight because of it. Mundine just fights bums. He only fights for $$$ he doesn't get respect here in OZ. He picks his fights well because he knows he's not that great. Look at his last fight, only won because he fixed the judges, got his title stripped because of it and no there's a rematch......
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He's not a nobody, he knocked down the German world champ IN Germany in both the 1st and 2nd rounds, then got DQ'd for headbutting (fair call but doesn't take away his ability as a fighter). That decision hurt him badly. He is a very good fighter just because he's on the other end of the earth and you haven't heard much of him doesn't mean he's nothing.
Mundine put off the fight for years then only did it at a lighter weight class. Green was too weak in that fight because of it. Mundine just fights bums. He only fights for $$$ he doesn't get respect here in OZ. He picks his fights well because he knows he's not that great. Look at his last fight, only won because he fixed the judges, got his title stripped because of it and no there's a rematch......
So true about Mundine. Waste of space.
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What the fuck happened to him he used to be great gets his ass beat everytime he gets in the ring now...RIP
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that fight was the biggest fix i have ever seen. how does roy jones in his last match talk while moving his head and not look at his opponent to getting fuked up by a nobody aussie boxer.
roy jones should quit boxing if he is going to take dives like that
its funny how green lost to mundine and mundine fights like a shittier version of jones.
did you see the slowmo of the punch? he got nailed right on the temple and after that his legs were jelly...
guys shouldn't fight aged 40 plain and simple.
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before the antonio tarver fight some called him the best pound for pound fighter ever
he loses to tarver and he's no longer even in the argument
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his overall fight resume is pretty poor in regards to the level of talent he fought....overrated....
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He's not a nobody, he knocked down the German world champ IN Germany in both the 1st and 2nd rounds, then got DQ'd for headbutting (fair call but doesn't take away his ability as a fighter). That decision hurt him badly. He is a very good fighter just because he's on the other end of the earth and you haven't heard much of him doesn't mean he's nothing.
Mundine put off the fight for years then only did it at a lighter weight class. Green was too weak in that fight because of it. Mundine just fights bums. He only fights for $$$ he doesn't get respect here in OZ. He picks his fights well because he knows he's not that great. Look at his last fight, only won because he fixed the judges, got his title stripped because of it and no there's a rematch......
i agree 100% that mundine is a bum. everyone who lives in australia knows this. but one thing i noticed when working at the event as a security guard was b-hops look on his face when he lost. he looked shocked because his plan was when jones defeated greene he has going to come in and call him out.
greene is not a shit fighter by any means but he is not in the same class as jones. jones last fight looked like a prime jones then few months later he cant make it out of the 1st round. never in his career has he been stopped in the first round
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Oh I didn't know someone already posted this. Delete mine then its an SOS!
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He's not a nobody, he knocked down the German world champ IN Germany in both the 1st and 2nd rounds, then got DQ'd for headbutting (fair call but doesn't take away his ability as a fighter). That decision hurt him badly. He is a very good fighter just because he's on the other end of the earth and you haven't heard much of him doesn't mean he's nothing.
Mundine put off the fight for years then only did it at a lighter weight class. Green was too weak in that fight because of it. Mundine just fights bums. He only fights for $$$ he doesn't get respect here in OZ. He picks his fights well because he knows he's not that great. Look at his last fight, only won because he fixed the judges, got his title stripped because of it and no there's a rematch......
man you have put it exactly as it is..the truth.
i want to add that Mundine "won" the fight not through good boxing, but rather good "evading"-like many of his other "wins".
Green is one of the honest guys of the sport- to all trying to rag on him, please dont..he's a rare, simple, hard working, loyal guy who competes at a level higher than his abilities through determination.
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did you see the slowmo of the punch? he got nailed right on the temple and after that his legs were jelly...
guys shouldn't fight aged 40 plain and simple.
ive seen loads of temple shots that havent caused a boxer to flinch. seeing a slo-mo of a temple shot isnt conclusive evidence of a legit KO. If it was square on the jaw then you might have a case.
Everyone going on about JJ being old and so on, remember that Green wasnt given a chance in this fight..the experts had him written off, and so did the other pro boxers. This isnt a soft victory at all.
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before the antonio tarver fight some called him the best pound for pound fighter ever
he loses to tarver and he's no longer even in the argument
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He was. He's arguably the best P4P fight ever. Definitely top five. Roy Jones was untouchable. So untouchable the first time he was hit the show was over. Thats the way it goes for every fighter except for Marciano. They all go down the same road. Larry Holmes. Beat Ali. On the way to beating Marcianos record. Thinking he's taking an easy fight against Spinks. Looses twice. Gets destroyed by Tyson. Next thing you know he's fighting Butterbean. Legacy destroyed. They never know when to quit. I know a few things. How to cook a steak. And that Floyd Mayweather is going down that same exact road. NO ONE IS UNBEATABLE!
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ive seen loads of temple shots that havent caused a boxer to flinch. seeing a slo-mo of a temple shot isnt conclusive evidence of a legit KO. If it was square on the jaw then you might have a case.
Everyone going on about JJ being old and so on, remember that Green wasnt given a chance in this fight..the experts had him written off, and so did the other pro boxers. This isnt a soft victory at all.
i'm just responding to people saying jones took a dive which I think is BS...
this punch rocked him which was evident when he tried to get up after it using the ropes and proceeded to fall to the left because his legs were gone... following the break the ref called soon after he wobbled to the ropes.
green was smart he jumped straight on him after the knockdown because he knew he couldn't let roy get his composure back.
http://media.smh.com.au/national/breaking-news/danny-green-shocks-roy-jones-jr-941986.html&exc_from=timeout
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Good shit by Danny Green. 8)
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Roy did fight some scrubs, but to say he's overrated is taking the piss. He fought and beat some excellent fighters and when he was at smw he looked unbeatable. Never really looked the same after he came down from hw.
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Roy did fight some scrubs, but to say he's overrated is taking the piss. He fought and beat some excellent fighters and when he was at smw he looked unbeatable. Never really looked the same after he came down from hw.
I still remember when Roy fought James Toney at Middleweight before they both moved up, all the experts thought James was going to murder Roy. Roy outclasses James completely.
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Roy did fight some scrubs, but to say he's overrated is taking the piss. He fought and beat some excellent fighters and when he was at smw he looked unbeatable. Never really looked the same after he came down from hw.
alot of people (fans that often don't know what there watching)have him as one of the best pound for pound fighters ever....most boxing experts don't even have him in there top ten of all time...that = overrated....look at the list of opponents out of 60 fights I can count on one hand the ones that were decent fighters....
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alot of people (fans that often don't know what there watching)have him as one of the best pound for pound fighters ever....most boxing experts don't even have him in there top ten of all time...that = overrated....look at the list of opponents out of 60 fights I can count on one hand the ones that were decent fighters....
Beat an undefeated lb for lb no 1 at the time Toney, Hopkins, McCallum, knocked out Hill with a single body shot, came back from a defeat to knock out Griffin in one round, beat Traver, Trinidad and went up to hw to beat Ruiz.
Yeah, overrated.
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Roy! Paying them debts off, I see.
I cannot for the life of me, understand why/how these athletes continually get themselves into financial trouble.
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alot of people (fans that often don't know what there watching)have him as one of the best pound for pound fighters ever....most boxing experts don't even have him in there top ten of all time...that = overrated....look at the list of opponents out of 60 fights I can count on one hand the ones that were decent fighters....
Also, even though he was probably the greatest figter of his generation he is an incredibly modest individual!
Get on your feet.. right now...
For Roy Jones Jr....
The best pound for pound fighter in the world...
Whoever don't agree... ya know what?
I guess - y'all musta forgot! ...
[Roy Jones Jr.]
When they stole my gold medal in Seoul, Korea
Let's look back at my whole career
Cuz y'all musta forgot! ....
The "best pound for pound" is mine
Hit Percy Harris with four hooks at one time
Y'all musta forgot! ....
When I beat Bernard Hopkins, and won the IBF
The right was hurt, beat him with the left
Y'all musta forgot! ....
You remember the left hook that James Toney got
Sucka move that I stole from a gamecock
Y'all musta forgot! ....
Will there be another Roy Jones? Probably not
Stopped Virgil Hill with a body shot
See y'all musta forgot! ....
I got disqualified in March of '97
After givin a whippin to Montell Griffin
Late hit - my title; they had to take it
Why? I guess that's the only way I could lose
Five months later; rematch, I needs my crown
First round, one punch and he sat down
Don't get me mad cuz I'm amped already
Took titles from fighters who was champs already
The heart and soul of boxing on HBO
What these other fighters take me fo? A joke?
Ah y'all musta forgot! ....
And they got the nerve to say I ain't fight nobody
I just make 'em look like nobody
Y'all musta forgot! ....
And David Telasco, he really asked for it
So I beat him with a fractured wrist
See y'all musta forgot! .... (remember that...)
In the ring I BOX, there is none higher
When I use these, they call me sire
To earn my kindom, I must use fire
and I won't stop boxing till I retire, I'm Roy...
Y'all musta forgot! .... Y'all musta forgot!
When I beat Reggie Johnson,
and took his light heavyweight title from him
See y'all musta forgot! That I'm nice with these
Y'all musta forgot! This is what I do
Y'all musta forgot!
We could go on and on, Mike McCallum, Vinnie Pazienza
See y'all musta forgot! .... Y'all musta forgot!
Y'all musta forgot! ......
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Yeah, overrated.
glad you see it my way now...
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alot of people (fans that often don't know what there watching)have him as one of the best pound for pound fighters ever....most boxing experts don't even have him in there top ten of all time...that = overrated....look at the list of opponents out of 60 fights I can count on one hand the ones that were decent fighters....
You can look at that 2 ways
It's not his fault that he was dominant at a time when there weren't a lot of good fighters
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He was so much better than them he made them look like shit.
RJJ was one of the best all time and fought anybody you put in front of him, never dodged anyone. Moved up and down 5 weight classes to get fights, no one wanted anything to do with him.
Because....in his prime, he could embarrass any boxer on the planet. Was he a bit of a showboater? hell yes, but he was still fucking bad-ass.
I still remember when he melted that guy with a kidney shot, or the time he stood in the corner with his hands behind his back and let James Coulon try and hit him
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Got any footage of that, Groink? I'd love to watch!
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With Jones' style, fight at 40+ is tough. Unless your a big puncher with a hard chin and hadn't relied on speed/agility your whole career (like a Foreman or Moore), 40 is a great time to become a coach.
exactly. his legs are absolutely shot compared to the springing lunging around on his toes boxing roy of old that would and could extend himself in a flash and drop you with a left hook from nowhere.
not to mention his "style" simply cannot carry over time since it's based off so much athleticism to be intact. Not to mention he seems to have jell-o head. Those equilibrium shots can be a bitch to push through also.
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exactly. his legs are absolutely shot compared to the springing lunging around on his toes boxing roy of old that would and could extend himself in a flash and drop you with a left hook from nowhere.
not to mention his "style" simply cannot carry over time since it's based off so much athleticism to be intact. Not to mention he seems to have jell-o head. Those equilibrium shots can be a bitch to push through also.
QFT.
i think my daughter could knock him out now. his bell is permanently rung
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You can look at that 2 ways
It's not his fault that he was dominant at a time when there weren't a lot of good fighters
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He was so much better than them he made them look like shit.
RJJ was one of the best all time and fought anybody you put in front of him, never dodged anyone. Moved up and down 5 weight classes to get fights, no one wanted anything to do with him.
Because....in his prime, he could embarrass any boxer on the planet. Was he a bit of a showboater? hell yes, but he was still fucking bad-ass.
I still remember when he melted that guy with a kidney shot, or the time he stood in the corner with his hands behind his back and let James Coulon try and hit him
this guy was so damn good it was ridiculous and absolutely insane to the point where I had to sit down in a quiet room and think about just who in the hell past or present could take him out. I kept coming up with Sugar Ray Robinson.......MAYBE
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Roy Jones and Darrem Charles need to retire. They were great at their craft but now their bodies are saying "no more..please"!
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roy jones + all time great and @ one time the best P4P without question
age robbed him of his speed and reflexes, exposing a suspect temple
same hot to the temple saw Glenroy johnson KO jones
Danny green = limited boxer with average punching power
mundine boxed his ears off and hopkins will school green also
great win for green, albeit over a washed up jones
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You all talk like Jones never got payed dude is worth a fortune.Who cares still one of the best ever.
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average punching Power? Yeah 25 knock outs is average in 30 fights. He has a jaw made of steel also, never been knocked out. Infact nobody has really hurt him, mundine evaded him won on points, should of beat beyer first time, 2nd time lost on points.
I have watched many fights. Americans have poor defence.
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Ricky Randall,Stephan Johnson,Ron Amundsen,David McCluskey,Joe Edens,Billy Mitchem,Knox Brown,Ron Johnson,Tony Waddles,Rollin Williams,Reggie Miller,Ricky Stackhouse,Eddie Evans,Kevin Daigle,Lester Yarbrough,Jorge Vaca,ArtSerwano,Jorge Castro,Glenn Thomas,Percy Harris,Glenn Wolfe,Thulani Malinga,Fermin Chirino,Danny Garcia,Thomas Tate,Antoine Byrd,Vinny Pazienza,Tony Thornton,Merqui Sosa,Eric Lucas,Bryant Brannon,Mike McCallum :-\,Montell Griffin ,Virgil Hill :-\;Lou Del Valle,Otis Grant,Richard Frazier,Reggie Johnson,David Telesco,Richard Hall,Eric Harding,Derrick Harmon, Julio César González,Clinton Woods, Prince Badi, Ajamu,Anthony Hanshaw ,Omar Sheika....
there you go theres a list of bullshit there......few ok ones nothing special....
heres the decent fighter he fought most of which he lost to.....
Bernard Hopkins in 1993 way b 4 bernard became the fighter we know....james tony roy won a decision....antonio tarver roy lost 2 out of the 3 fights.....glen johnson roy lost by KO.felix trinidad won a decision which was in 2008 way after felix was relevant....joe calzaghe roy lost to by decision...jeff lacy roy won.....do you really consider john ruiz a great fighter?
wow great resume ::)
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Most of these fighters were world champions at the time he fought them or they were former world champions. Back in the day Roy Jones jr. was da man.
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Ricky Randall,Stephan Johnson,Ron Amundsen,David McCluskey,Joe Edens,Billy Mitchem,Knox Brown,Ron Johnson,Tony Waddles,Rollin Williams,Reggie Miller,Ricky Stackhouse,Eddie Evans,Kevin Daigle,Lester Yarbrough,Jorge Vaca,ArtSerwano,Jorge Castro,Glenn Thomas,Percy Harris,Glenn Wolfe,Thulani Malinga,Fermin Chirino,Danny Garcia,Thomas Tate,Antoine Byrd,Vinny Pazienza,Tony Thornton,Merqui Sosa,Eric Lucas,Bryant Brannon,Mike McCallum :-\,Montell Griffin ,Virgil Hill :-\;Lou Del Valle,Otis Grant,Richard Frazier,Reggie Johnson,David Telesco,Richard Hall,Eric Harding,Derrick Harmon, Julio César González,Clinton Woods, Prince Badi, Ajamu,Anthony Hanshaw ,Omar Sheika....
there you go theres a list of bullshit there......few ok ones nothing special....
heres the decent fighter he fought most of which he lost to.....
Bernard Hopkins in 1993 way b 4 bernard became the fighter we know....james tony roy won a decision....antonio tarver roy lost 2 out of the 3 fights.....glen johnson roy lost by KO.felix trinidad won a decision which was in 2008 way after felix was relevant....joe calzaghe roy lost to by decision...jeff lacy roy won.....do you really consider john ruiz a great fighter?
wow great resume ::)
You're a douche and know nothing about boxing if you don't think RJJ was the best pound4Pound in his prime. He fought who was out there at the time. all of the big name fighter were lightweights and welters at the time, and the were in no rush to come up in weight to get knocked out by jones. Roy was nothing like Mayweather he would fight anyone, no one wanted any part of him.
Tarver was the beginning of the end for Jones, he fell FAST. It's funny you have an "excuse" for every name guy that he beat but he doesn't get the same courtesy when he lost to inferior fighters at the end of his run. No one stays on top forever.
Hypocrite.
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Ricky Randall,Stephan Johnson,Ron Amundsen,David McCluskey,Joe Edens,Billy Mitchem,Knox Brown,Ron Johnson,Tony Waddles,Rollin Williams,Reggie Miller,Ricky Stackhouse,Eddie Evans,Kevin Daigle,Lester Yarbrough,Jorge Vaca,ArtSerwano,Jorge Castro,Glenn Thomas,Percy Harris,Glenn Wolfe,Thulani Malinga,Fermin Chirino,Danny Garcia,Thomas Tate,Antoine Byrd,Vinny Pazienza,Tony Thornton,Merqui Sosa,Eric Lucas,Bryant Brannon,Mike McCallum :-\,Montell Griffin ,Virgil Hill :-\;Lou Del Valle,Otis Grant,Richard Frazier,Reggie Johnson,David Telesco,Richard Hall,Eric Harding,Derrick Harmon, Julio César González,Clinton Woods, Prince Badi, Ajamu,Anthony Hanshaw ,Omar Sheika....
there you go theres a list of bullshit there......few ok ones nothing special....
heres the decent fighter he fought most of which he lost to.....
Bernard Hopkins in 1993 way b 4 bernard became the fighter we know....james tony roy won a decision....antonio tarver roy lost 2 out of the 3 fights.....glen johnson roy lost by KO.felix trinidad won a decision which was in 2008 way after felix was relevant....joe calzaghe roy lost to by decision...jeff lacy roy won.....do you really consider john ruiz a great fighter?
wow great resume ::)
Lol, at the fact you consider Jeff Lacy a "decent" fighter, but have McCallum and Hill in your "bullshit" list. You could argue that Gonzalez, Woods and Sheika deserve to be included amongst what you consider "decent", rather than Lacy.
You should stick to men in pants "grappling", mate.
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Like I said a few were OK...but defiantly not great....other great fighters had other greats to go against....
I think alot of people with an untrained eye got caught up in Roy's tricks and antics.....Its like a person that goes and watches the Harlem glob trotters or the And 1 players....they see all these flashy moves & tricks and say wow these guys are great....But if they played a NBA team they would get demolished....Same with Roy if he tried that hands behind the back shit & many other of his childish antics against legit top level compition he would get demolished....
I think you guys are also jumping the gun a bit of what I'm saying....I never posted that he wasn't good...I simply posted that he was overrated....which most boxing experts agree with me on....Most casual fans on here are saying he was the best ever or would have him in there top five....alot of boxing historians have him in the mid teens as far as all time rank.....which as I said is good....but makes him overrated in comparison to were the casual fan(that are easily impressed by circus tricks) rank him.....
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Ricky Randall,Stephan Johnson,Ron Amundsen,David McCluskey,Joe Edens,Billy Mitchem,Knox Brown,Ron Johnson,Tony Waddles,Rollin Williams,Reggie Miller,Ricky Stackhouse,Eddie Evans,Kevin Daigle,Lester Yarbrough,Jorge Vaca,ArtSerwano,Jorge Castro,Glenn Thomas,Percy Harris,Glenn Wolfe,Thulani Malinga,Fermin Chirino,Danny Garcia,Thomas Tate,Antoine Byrd,Vinny Pazienza,Tony Thornton,Merqui Sosa,Eric Lucas,Bryant Brannon,Mike McCallum :-\,Montell Griffin ,Virgil Hill :-\;Lou Del Valle,Otis Grant,Richard Frazier,Reggie Johnson,David Telesco,Richard Hall,Eric Harding,Derrick Harmon, Julio César González,Clinton Woods, Prince Badi, Ajamu,Anthony Hanshaw ,Omar Sheika....
there you go theres a list of bullshit there......few ok ones nothing special....
heres the decent fighter he fought most of which he lost to.....
Bernard Hopkins in 1993 way b 4 bernard became the fighter we know....james tony roy won a decision....antonio tarver roy lost 2 out of the 3 fights.....glen johnson roy lost by KO.felix trinidad won a decision which was in 2008 way after felix was relevant....joe calzaghe roy lost to by decision...jeff lacy roy won.....do you really consider john ruiz a great fighter?
wow great resume ::)
...and what does this mean?
I can pull the list on every single fighter in boxing history and say the same. No prize fighter ever has fought even close to 10-15% of their career against "great" challengers period. Matter of fact over 75% of all boxers careers are against tomato cans....all of them.
and I can promise you there were guys at light heavy that roy cleaned out that would take guys who you "think" are/were great to the wire and beat them. Most notably was the constant talk in the 90's about roy ducking the undefeated champ from over seas fighter Darius Michalczewski who was supposed to be his greatest challenge that everybody said he (roy) was ducking. All roy said was he needs to bring his a$$ to the us and he'd murder him like all the rest.
.......Well this guy by the name of richard hall (who roy destroyed) went over to europe and took him to the wire in wars then this other nobody roy destroyed julio ceaser gonzalez beat him.....again...this guy made top contenders look like clowns no matter who they were.
and you obviously don't know boxing if you think McCallum and Hill were bums...lol c'mon man.
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I've just been looking at Archie Moore's record and out of 220 fights I only recognise about 20 of his opponents.
Overrated bum.
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I've just been looking at Archie Moore's record and out of 220 fights I only recognise about 20 of his opponents.
Overrated bum.
you are gay ... since when gayz follow boxing ?
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you are gay ... since when gayz follow boxing ?
Fuck off, you boring gypsy cunt.
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Fuck off, you boring gypsy cunt.
haha
I own your mind you feeble bum fairy
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haha
I own your mind you feeble bum fairy
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfUFYtXNN0A&feature=player_embedded)
Yep, you got me there, shit-for-brains.
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....Like I said most casual fans have roy in there top 5-10...which is highly overrated....
50 Greatest Boxers of All-Time
In 2007, ESPN.com listed their 50 greatest boxers of all-time. The goal was not an 'all-time, mythical pound-for-pound ranking' but rather an assessment based on four criteria:
In-ring Performance
Achievements
Dominance
Mainstream Appeal
Check out the complete list below. It will come as no surprise who is at the top of the list. If you accept that Sugar Ray Robinson belongs in the top slot (or even if you don't), who do you think belongs at number two?
Note: This list was compiled in 2007. At that time, Manny Pacquiao had not yet fought - and beaten - Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manual Marquez (rematch), David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. If the list was compiled today, Pacman would surely crack the top 50. The interesting question is just how high would he rank among the all-time greats?
What do you think of the list? What would you change? Who was left off? Who doesn't belong?
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson
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Yep, you got me there, I have shit-for-brains.
fixed
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You still haven't figured out how to use the embed youtube function.
lol, spastic.
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....Like I said most casual fans have roy in there top 5-10...which is highly overrated....
50 Greatest Boxers of All-Time
In 2007, ESPN.com listed their 50 greatest boxers of all-time. The goal was not an 'all-time, mythical pound-for-pound ranking' but rather an assessment based on four criteria:
In-ring Performance
Achievements
Dominance
Mainstream Appeal
Check out the complete list below. It will come as no surprise who is at the top of the list. If you accept that Sugar Ray Robinson belongs in the top slot (or even if you don't), who do you think belongs at number two?
Note: This list was compiled in 2007. At that time, Manny Pacquiao had not yet fought - and beaten - Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manual Marquez (rematch), David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. If the list was compiled today, Pacman would surely crack the top 50. The interesting question is just how high would he rank among the all-time greats?
What do you think of the list? What would you change? Who was left off? Who doesn't belong?
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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You still haven't figured out how to use the embed youtube function.
lol, spastic.
wow...not only u gay u smart as well
what a combo lol
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....Like I said most casual fans have roy in there top 5-10...which is highly overrated....
50 Greatest Boxers of All-Time
In 2007, ESPN.com listed their 50 greatest boxers of all-time. The goal was not an 'all-time, mythical pound-for-pound ranking' but rather an assessment based on four criteria:
In-ring Performance
Achievements
Dominance
Mainstream Appeal
Check out the complete list below. It will come as no surprise who is at the top of the list. If you accept that Sugar Ray Robinson belongs in the top slot (or even if you don't), who do you think belongs at number two?
Note: This list was compiled in 2007. At that time, Manny Pacquiao had not yet fought - and beaten - Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manual Marquez (rematch), David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. If the list was compiled today, Pacman would surely crack the top 50. The interesting question is just how high would he rank among the all-time greats?
What do you think of the list? What would you change? Who was left off? Who doesn't belong?
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson
Problem with these all time lists is that unless you are very old, it's unlikely that you have seen most of the fighters.
That being said, De la Hoya above Whitaker is a bit of a piss take.
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BY THEWAY PURPLE AKI WASANNNALLY ABUSED and had gay sex with his victims
great role model
you been bum fucked as a kid by any chance?
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Marciano at 14 and he never lost a fight ::)
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Problem with these all time lists is that unless you are very old, it's unlikely that you have seen most of the fighters.
That being said, De la Hoya above Whitaker is a bit of a piss take.
OK...heres ring magazine 80 best in the last 80 years....(note it was 2002 so some names will be omited ofcourse)
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Rocky Marciano
13. Ezzard Charles
14. Archie Moore
15. Sandy Saddler
16. Jack Dempsey
17. Marvin Hagler
18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Barney Ross
22. Evander Holyfield
23. Ike Williams
24. Salvador Sanchez
25. George Foreman
26. Kid Gavilian
27. Larry Holmes
28. Mickey Walker
29. Ruben Olivares
30. Gene Tunney
31. Dick Tiger
32. Fighting Harada
33. Emile Griffith
34. Tony Canzoneri
35. Aaron Pryor
36. Pascual Perez
37. Miguel Canto
38. Manuel Ortiz
39. Charley Burley
40. Carmen Basilio
41. Michael Spinks
42. Joe Frazier
43. Khaosai Galaxy
44. Roy Jones Jr.
45. Tiger Flowers
46. Panama Al Brown
47. Kid Chocolate
48. Joe Brown
49. Tommy Loughran
50. Bernard Hopkins
51. Felix Trinidad
52. Jake LaMotta
53. Lennox Lewis
54. Wilfredo Gomez
55. Bob Foster
56. Jose Napoles
57. Billy Conn
58. Jimmy McLarnin
59. Pancho Villa
60. Carlos Ortiz
61. Bob Montgomery
62. Freddie Miller
63. Benny Lynch
64. Beau Jack
65. Azumah Nelson
66. Eusebio Pedroza
67. Thomas Hearns
68. Wilfred Benitez
69. Antonio Cervantes
70. Ricardo Lopez
71. Sonny Liston
72. Mike Tyson
73. Vicente Saldivar
74. Gene Fullmer
75. Oscar De La Hoya
76. Carlos Zarate
77. Marcel Cerdan
78. Flash Elorde
79. Mike McCallum
80. Harold Johnson
Source: Ring Magazine (2002)
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I share a name with someone who fought Roy in the 90's. Reggie Johnson!!!!
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i find it hard to believe that duran ranks so highly...well above his contemporaries.
and frazier and foreman ahead of lewis.
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i find it hard to believe that duran ranks so highly...well above his contemporaries.
and frazier and foreman ahead of lewis.
Duran was a monster at lightweight, held belts in four different divisions and fought in five different decades. That's all time greatness.
Frazier definitely gets overrated, probably due to his association with Ali.
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I share a name with someone who fought Roy in the 90's. Reggie Johnson!!!!
Johnson was indicted on March 18, 2008 for a second degree felony of theft of $120,000. The funds were grant money distributed through the Urban League from the Red Cross to aid children displaced by Hurricanes Rita and Katrina. Johnson, doing business as "Pugilistic Drama, Inc." was supposed to put on a series of camps helping more than 40 children, but the camps never materialized. If convicted, Johnson could face a sentence up to 20 years in prison. Johnson also has prior convictions which one being a felony theft in which the F.B.I. charged him with.
On a side note your probably just as good a fighter as him also as with most of Roy's opponets.....