RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record

[Wolfox]

In a legit org too. No quarter squats and triple ply bench shirts.

[_aj_]

Lord, if this doesn't bait Galeniko back, nothing will.

[Wolfox]

In all serious, watching Layne over the years, I believe he is natural. He's built up his physique slowly, has the natty p4p strength that natty bbers are known for, and he's NEVER ballooned up overnight.

The dude is just a persistent obsessive fuck.  

[MichaelScottDM]

His squat and dead numbers look good, but is it just me or is his bench really weak?

[haider]

Layne owns the haters

[TheGrinch]

those were awesome Good Mornings but where's the squats?

[Wolfox]

His squat and dead numbers look good, but is it just me or is his bench really weak?

Tore his pec a few years ago. He used to be more of a presser in his younger years.

[mr.turbo]

yes agreed nice work liar nortrom all natty 6-700lb dl and squat!!!!

fuck da haters

[Van_Bilderass]

His squat and dead numbers look good, but is it just me or is his bench really weak?

I don't think so. For his style of benching I think the bench strength is as developed as the rest.
I don't know if there's any proposed ideal strength ratio between the lifts but the bench doesn't seem weak to me.

yes agreed nice work liar nortrom all natty 6-700lb dl and squat!!!!

fuck da haters

Those numbers are within the realm of possibility. Rare but possible.

[Wolfox]

A lot of steroid users started juicing early which is why it's common to hear on the boards that you max out after 2 years of natural training but anyone who has actually trained natural for some time knows thats not true. It's total bs. It's often at the 2 year mark where you're really learning your own body and how it responds to different training and diet. Some of my best quality gains were at year 3 and 4.

[Van_Bilderass]

A lot of steroid users started juicing early which is why it's common to hear on the boards that you max out after 2 years of natural training but anyone whose actually trained natural for some time knows thats not true. It's total bs. It's often at the 2 year mark where you're really learning your own body and how it responds to different training and diet. Some of my best quality gains were at year 3 and 4.

It's BS only if it's like the bolded where you had no clue what you were doing at first.

[haider]

A lot of steroid users started juicing early which is why it's common to hear on the boards that you max out after 2 years of natural training but anyone whose actually trained natural for some time knows thats not true. It's total bs. It's often at the 2 year mark where you're really learning your own body and how it responds to different training and diet. Some of my best quality gains were at year 3 and 4.

I love getbig but the layne hating is plain fucking retarded. We really come off as low acheiving cynical idiots when we shit on layne.

[mr.turbo]

say your prayers and take your vitamins kids

[Fortress]

His squat and dead numbers look good, but is it just me or is his bench really weak?

No, it's not.

Good lifting all around. Congrats to the dude.

[Wolfox]

It's BS only if it's like the bolded where you had no clue what you were doing at first.

No. There are different workout programs. Different ideas on the best rep ranges and volume. You have to experiment to find out what works best for you. Not everyone responds the same to certain training methods.

[Van_Bilderass]

No. There are different workout programs. Different ideas on the best rep ranges and volume. You have to experiment to find out what works best for you. Not everyone responds the same to certain training methods.

I disagree. There's a red thread in every effective hypertrophy program. There aren't really vastly different programs which work differently for different people. Humans aren't really that dissimilar, our muscles work the same.

[mr.turbo]

5'10 220lbs (at least) 10% was this a tested comp?

[Wolfox]

I disagree. There's a red thread in every effective hypertrophy program. There aren't really vastly different programs which work differently for different people. Humans aren't really that dissimilar, our muscles work the same.

Not vastly different but there are differences and there is a sweet spot for the individual.

Different training volume = different result for different people.

Eur J Appl Physiol. 2011 Dec;111(12):3007-16. doi: 10.1007/s00421-011-1944-x. Epub 2011 Mar 31.
Strength and neuromuscular adaptation following one, four, and eight sets of high intensity resistance exercise in trained males.
Marshall PW, McEwen M, Robbins DW.
Source

School of Biomedical and Health Science, University of Western Sydney, Sydney, Australia. p.marshall@uws.edu.au

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/strength-and-neuromuscular-adaptation-following-one-four-and-eight-sets-of-high-intensity-resistance-exercise-in-trained-males-research-review.html

[Big Chiro Flex]

In all serious, watching Layne over the years, I believe he is natural. He's built up his physique slowly, has the natty p4p strength that natty bbers are known for, and he's NEVER ballooned up overnight.

The dude is just a persistent obsessive fuck.  

I believe this as well....even though he had a strange connection with Envizion medical previously. I still say what he's done is achievable naturally.

[Wolfox]

It's not hard to find what works for you. You just have to put in the time, experiment, observe, and listen to your body. All too often people who start juicing too early never learn what works best for them. They just mindlessly go through motions and depend on the juice for the results. The don't understand the importance of training. The natural can NOT afford to just go through the motions without using his mind. He needs to be perfectly in-tune with his body, training and nutrition.

[Big Chiro Flex]

A lot of steroid users started juicing early which is why it's common to hear on the boards that you max out after 2 years of natural training but anyone who has actually trained natural for some time knows thats not true. It's total bs. It's often at the 2 year mark where you're really learning your own body and how it responds to different training and diet. Some of my best quality gains were at year 3 and 4.

Exactly. My 5th year training natty was my best...every year was an improvement. Im still yet to experience a "plateau", even with gear.

[mr.turbo]

liar nortrom has better stats than arnold in his prime.

I guess arnold never tried high rep squats.

[Shockwave]

Layne clearly has the most elite .00000000001% of genetics on earthm

[Marty Champions]

so apparantly layne gains more strength and muscle than the rest of us naturally because of WHY exactly?

you guys are stupid never asking why?

if hes so smart there should be 20 people hes trained by now with crazy lift numbers

[Big Chiro Flex]

so apparantly layne gains more strength and muscle than the rest of us naturally because of WHY exactly?

you guys are stupid never asking why?

if hes so smart there should be 20 people hes trained by now with crazy lift numbers

I dunno about his PLing but he's had a ton if clients win pro cards