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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2013, 04:26:54 PM »
well, since Wolfox linked to Lyle's page, I will quote Lyle:


hey guys newsflash

the breakthroughs in this area are related to chemistry not biomechanics!

am i a genius or what!!???
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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2013, 07:27:38 PM »
Pretty sure it says he's 214 lbs in the vid. 10-12% is easy as fuck. You aint on the level so it's impossible for you to fathom.

He's been lifting persistantly for 15+ years...To not even be able to DL 700...Not that impressive. Not even bench 405..There are literally high school children benching 4 plates..Nothing crazy. To achieve his numbers he would have had to train people (equally obsessed as himself) for 10-15 years...Come on Falcone you're smarter than this.

This is what pro-hormones and gear do.

Eric one of the best powerlifters in the world. Rumored to have started prohormones at roughly 17 y/o.

850 raw @ 22 y/o





George Leeman is one of the strongest deadlifters ever successfully pulling 906lbs in training. Talks openly about his gear use.

875 x 4 raw @ 21 y/o



815 x 6 @ 22 y/o



6'3 360lbs...22 y/o





Chris Hickson...855 @ 20 y/o - 6'4 260lbs...Dude was sponsored by a research chem site for god's sakes.



Pete Rubish is one of the most intense individuals on earth. Talks openly on RXmuscle about Methyltrienolone, Oral Tren, etc...etc..

815 @ 20 y/o





You pussies don't know shit about powerlifting...And have questionable knowledge of anything for that matter...Bunch of internet shmoes and pussies. Lane Norton aint even fucking strong. Morons.


Let's take the highlighted statement. "He has been lifting persistently for the past 15+ years. To not be able to deadlift lift 700lbs is not that impressive".

You know powerlifiting, great. But you should also know that you either concentrate on one or the other to be successful. Either it's bodybuilding or powerlifting...pick one. Layne obviously trains for both and know's how to train for both. It's two different training styles..period. Those lifts (and anyone but you would seem to agree) are great lifts. I'd be willing to bet, with his age (fairly young) if ONLY concentrated on power lifting those numbers would go up. The problem seems to be with you, you ONLY know (allegedly) how to train for powerlifting. If you knew the difference between bodybuilding-type training and powerlifting, you might have a change of opinion. You might not have been taking to me, but damn, shit like this has to be called out.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2013, 07:35:23 PM »
Think how strong Layne Norton would be if he followed the 80c-10p-10f diet.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2013, 07:42:00 PM »
How old is Layne now? He's got to be 30 or close to it. Terrible form on the squats, how long can his back take that abuse? And it's been a long time since his last  bodybuilding competition. IMO he's a much better powerlifter than bodybuilder. Very good deadlifter....

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2013, 07:44:09 PM »
How old is Layne now? He's got to be 30 or close to it. Terrible form on the squats, how long can his back take that abuse? And it's been a long time since his last  bodybuilding competition. IMO he's a much better powerlifter than bodybuilder. Very good deadlifter....

The only thing I found unusual about the squat is there was no pause at the bottom.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2013, 08:08:25 PM »
Let's take the highlighted statement. "He has been lifting persistently for the past 15+ years. To not be able to deadlift lift 700lbs is not that impressive".

You know powerlifiting, great. But you should also know that you either concentrate on one or the other to be successful. Either it's bodybuilding or powerlifting...pick one. Layne obviously trains for both and know's how to train for both. It's two different training styles..period. Those lifts (and anyone but you would seem to agree) are great lifts. I'd be willing to bet, with his age (fairly young) if ONLY concentrated on power lifting those numbers would go up. The problem seems to be with you, you ONLY know (allegedly) how to train for powerlifting. If you knew the difference between bodybuilding-type training and powerlifting, you might have a change of opinion. You might not have been taking to me, but damn, shit like this has to be called out.

Yeah they are good...Not good enough to accuse someone of using gear. I posted vids of kids who were outlifting Layne after lifting for <5 years compared to his 15 years.

Lol I only know powerlifting training...Bro anyone with Youtube knows how bodybuilders train. It aint rocket science. Layne trains "powerbuilding" like many top level powerlifters, the difference is he diets down and gets on stage, and he's not big rofl maybe 200lbs on stage..Again nothing worthy of steroid accusations. Huge doses would bloofy him up to 250 on stage like every other bullshit pro bb'er big whoop. Not rocket science.


Call me out ? You haven't called out shit...There are 17 year old's out lifting Layne and there are 17 year old bb'ers bigger than him..Lol You didn't call out shit old man.

And I'm an actual fan of Layne lol.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2013, 08:15:31 PM »
Huge doses would bloofy him up to 250 on stage like every other bullshit pro bb'er big whoop. Not rocket science.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #82 on: October 23, 2013, 08:20:27 PM »
Ben Rice. 1830 @ 209. 24 y/o . This kid is 100% drug free I'd put money on it. Been lifting since he was 13 or so.


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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #83 on: October 23, 2013, 08:38:23 PM »
Powerlifting appears to be even more bizarre and cultist than bodybuilding... 

Impressive!!
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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #84 on: October 23, 2013, 09:38:14 PM »
Powerlifting appears to be even more bizarre and cultist than bodybuilding... 

Impressive!!

Not even close.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2013, 10:35:28 PM »
layne is WAYYY TOO STRONG for a natural

HOWEVER

his ripped look could be acheived naturally i would know because i was near that ripped condition at some points in my life

but ive never had freaky strenth.

i cheat curled 225 , i mean really cheated, i could barbell curl 135 for like 18 reps

best bench was 225 for 17 bouncy reps but full range

best squat was 315 for 3 and 275 for liek 10 i think

best dead was 500

i could never do 225 seated military behind the neck i was close but couldnt do it i could probably do 210






Seems like you didn't work your legs as much.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2013, 10:38:45 PM »
Think how strong Layne Norton would be if he followed the 80c-10p-10f diet.

Falcon principles will surely take this athlete to the next level.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #87 on: October 23, 2013, 11:52:26 PM »
tHe fact that some of you still believe that someone can be "natural" saddens me. There is no such thing in anything. If there is, it is so not impressive you wouldn't be talking about it.

"I have a friend who I slept with every day so I know he is natural eats 500 g of carbs a day and is 6% no roids, no burners or diuretics no nothing."

"I have a friend who been lifting for 23 years so his lifts are achieved through a lot of hard work and dedication."

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2013, 12:16:35 AM »
tHe fact that some of you still believe that someone can be "natural" saddens me. There is no such thing in anything. If there is, it is so not impressive you wouldn't be talking about it.

"I have a friend who I slept with every day so I know he is natural eats 500 g of carbs a day and is 6% no roids, no burners or diuretics no nothing."

"I have a friend who been lifting for 23 years so his lifts are achieved through a lot of hard work and dedication."

 ::)

Except your argument becomes much less convincing when there has been people like myself who have posted pics of when I was actually truly 100% natty, before I started gear, and there was still people claiming I was juiced to the gills. And i certainly am far from being considered a genetic elite, yet my priorly natural physique had endless claims that i was juiced? nobody believed my old natty pics or the ones of my best bro who is still natty.

So then what are we to believe?? It's just another opinion that somebody has. Obviously there's a lot of fakes and phonies claiming drug free out there, but your insistence that there are NO exceptions is silly. I've only been doing this for 6 years and I've known a few "exceptions" including myself. You should know better, what are you like 45?

Throw Groink into this category as well with me, I believe he's another guy that trained natty for years before juicing and nobody believed him either.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2013, 12:26:29 AM »
Except your argument becomes much less convincing when there has been people like myself who have posted pics of when I was actually truly 100% natty, before I started gear, and there was still people claiming I was juiced to the gills. And i certainly am far from being considered a genetic elite, yet my priorly natural physique had endless claims that i was juiced? nobody believed my old natty pics or the ones of my best bro who is still natty.

So then what are we to believe?? It's just another opinion that somebody has. Obviously there's a lot of fakes and phonies claiming drug free out there, but your insistence that there are NO exceptions is silly. I've only been doing this for 6 years and I've known a few "exceptions" including myself. You should know better, what are you like 45?

Throw Groink into this category as well with me, I believe he's another guy that trained natty for years before juicing and nobody believed him either.
Groink is a cool dude so I will not "go there" but don't be a naive kid.

I AM genetic elite and respond very well. So I know what the deal is as I have done it all (natty, clean, juiced, young, old)

Don't come here with that natural bull crap kiddo. I remeber when you came here shouting all natural and how special you are. I am alergic to bull shit so please don't spam us with your friend who you jerked off with in the very same room so you know he does not use viagra  ::)

BTW.. I am 37 and shit on you in each and every single way. Please engrave this upon the tablets of your memories.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2013, 12:36:17 AM »
Groink is a cool dude so I will not "go there" but don't be a naive kid.

I AM genetic elite and respond very well. So I know what the deal is as I have done it all (natty, clean, juiced, young, old)

Don't come here with that natural bull crap kiddo. I remeber when you came here shouting all natural and how special you are. I am alergic to bull shit so please don't spam us with your friend who you jerked off with in the very same room so you know he does not use viagra  ::)

BTW.. I am 37 and shit on you in each and every single way. Please engrave this upon the tablets of your memories.

LOL jeez you mad bro  :D

First off you hilariously have me confused with Flinstones who j.o.'d with some good bros of his.

I'm 25 so you should be "shitting on me in every single way" in life since you have 12 years on me Gramps. It would be shameful if you WEREN'T!

No offense but you are genetically good....NOT elite. Elite is a very strong word and for your 1.5g/week cycles you look very good but NOT elite. I'd save Elite for like a 49 yo Groink or a BigRo....maybe even a Mesomorph87. I train every week with some huge shredded fuckers that compete nationally here in the NPC....it takes a lot for me to refer to someone as Elite, and no offense but you're not in these fellas league. Other than that not a ton of elite bros on here. Anyways sorry if I made you mad dude, I'm not here to start an e-war with you,  just pointing out some epic flaws in your argument since you cited my previous post about my best friend.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #91 on: October 24, 2013, 12:38:57 AM »
Cleanest Natural making friends in this thread.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #92 on: October 24, 2013, 12:48:21 AM »
Cleanest Natural making friends in this thread.

Yes he's very agitated that my drug-free buddy is 6'2, 195lbs and eats carbs til he wants to puke but can't put on dense Muslce (or fat) to save his life. Extreme ectomorph genetics...calves like a billy goat, etc.

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #93 on: October 24, 2013, 01:29:30 AM »

I AM genetic elite and respond very well. So I know what the deal is as I have done it all (natty, clean, juiced, young, old)



You're the genetic elite which is why you need 200 mg of dbol and 2 grams of test to achieve what many polygraph tested naturals would stomp all over. As soon as you go off you look like you've never touched a weight in your life.

You're so full of yourself and the thing is it's totally unwarranted. You shit talk anyone who claims to be natural that looks better than you. You meltdown every time this comes up. You just can't fathom how some natural could be better than you all juiced out on 200mg of dbol.

Next time you're in america visit a division 1 college and go watch their football players lift. They are bigger than you, faster than you, and stronger than you. And guess what? the majority of those kids are natural.
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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #94 on: October 24, 2013, 01:32:35 AM »


layne does not seem natural in this pic...not so much mass but still he got that geared up look here...agreed he is a better powerlifter than bb though
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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #95 on: October 24, 2013, 03:25:13 AM »

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #96 on: October 24, 2013, 05:41:44 AM »
Groink is a cool dude so I will not "go there" but don't be a naive kid.

I AM genetic elite and respond very well. So I know what the deal is as I have done it all (natty, clean, juiced, young, old)

Don't come here with that natural bull crap kiddo. I remeber when you came here shouting all natural and how special you are. I am alergic to bull shit so please don't spam us with your friend who you jerked off with in the very same room so you know he does not use viagra  ::)

BTW.. I am 37 and shit on you in each and every single way. Please engrave this upon the tablets of your memories.
you have solid genetics... but elite level? No way bro....

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #97 on: October 24, 2013, 05:46:42 AM »
genetics have to do with shape and how you respond, how fast etc .. nothing to do with developement.. that's just drugs alone and their quality and quantity .. most of you woulnd't know what good genetics even mean par example. Chiro is just a dreamy kid  ;D

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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #98 on: October 24, 2013, 06:36:41 AM »
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Re: RAW Natural Strength: Layne Norton breaks state powerlifting record
« Reply #99 on: October 24, 2013, 07:38:38 AM »
The only thing I found unusual about the squat is there was no pause at the bottom.

What? Are you saying there's supposed to be a pause in the squat?