Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: nukkaready on September 09, 2008, 04:27:05 PM

Title: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nukkaready on September 09, 2008, 04:27:05 PM
best ever... complete package... total flow of physique
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: QuakerOats on September 09, 2008, 04:28:01 PM
he was incredible. ;D
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Chick on September 09, 2008, 04:29:42 PM
Best front relaxed pose EVER, without question, was Paul Dillett.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 04:40:00 PM
best ever... complete package... total flow of physique

A better shot but I don't think is standing relaxed from the front was the best ever , alot better than people give him credit for though
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: jtsunami on September 09, 2008, 04:44:49 PM
Best front relaxed pose EVER, without question, was Paul Dillett.

Jerome Ferguson plz
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 09, 2008, 04:45:11 PM
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/paul1.jpg)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: bigguns23 on September 09, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
Best front relaxed pose EVER, without question, was Paul Dillett.


 :D
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: johnny on September 09, 2008, 04:55:22 PM
Lee haney @ 245-250LBS (1980s vintage) has to rank near the top with the Relaxed pose.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: johnny on September 09, 2008, 04:59:09 PM
A better shot but I don't think is standing relaxed from the front was the best ever , alot better than people give him credit for though
Awesome shot ND!!! havn,t seen that pic b4, is that the 1993 MR O??.. thanks for posting. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 05:04:19 PM
Just awesome  :o
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: RC Money on September 09, 2008, 05:18:53 PM
A better shot but I don't think is standing relaxed from the front was the best ever , alot better than people give him credit for though
I agree, not best ever and not the most "holy shit" inducing but very complete and good pose for his physique.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: burn2live on September 09, 2008, 05:21:43 PM
For some reason I just don't like Yates' physique. Dunno why
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nycbull on September 09, 2008, 06:16:20 PM
Dorians strength and the reason why he won the Olympia is in his silhouette, he has an amazing flow from muscle to muscle creating really pleasing lines and curves...creating a very classic silhouette of a bodybuilder....I mean if you had to compare competitors by only looking at their shadows on a wall, or behind a screen, you would pick Dorian as having the best looking physique, maybe not the biggest but definitely the one with the best lines and the most aesthetic appeal.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: monstercalves on September 09, 2008, 06:44:30 PM
Dorians strength and the reason why he won the Olympia is in his silhouette, he has an amazing flow from muscle to muscle creating really pleasing lines and curves...creating a very classic silhouette of a bodybuilder....I mean if you had to compare competitors by only looking at their shadows on a wall, or behind a screen, you would pick Dorian as having the best looking physique, maybe not the biggest but definitely the one with the best lines and the most aesthetic appeal.


exactly right............

thats why dorians is probably theee best

the outline is the biggest part of it ............
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nycbull on September 09, 2008, 06:58:17 PM

exactly right............

thats why dorians is probably theee best

the outline is the biggest part of it ............

thanks, yea I think competitors should be more aware of their outline...but today the aesthetic is just about getting each body part as big as possible, so it's unnecessary I suppose.

I think that is the major difference between Ronnie and Dorian,  it is like comparing apples and oranges....Dorian sculpted his physique into an outline that he thought was most appealing, where Ronnie just set out to make every body part as big as possible...those are too different approaches and pointless for posters here to keep comparing them.

Thats why I like Wolf he seems to be designing his physique rather than just trying to make every muscle as big as possible.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 06:58:48 PM
sorry but ronnie has him beat in the relaxed pose:

much better quads (both cuts and sweep)

arms not undersized and overpowered by his torso

smaller waist:
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:02:32 PM
you can see the difference in proportions comparing Ronnie's arm/torso to dorian's arms/torso.

ronnie are in perfect proportion with one another.

dorian's needed to a be a little bigger to get the proportions right.

he also need some quad cuts and some more sweep to really get the classic look.

 

Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:03:58 PM
you can see the difference in proportions comparing Ronnie's arm/torso to dorian's arms/torso.

ronnie are in perfect proportion with one another.

dorian's needed to a be a little bigger to get the proportions right.

he also need some quad cuts for sure.


'

lmfao another Dorian induced meltdown by Hulkster , hey who's name do you think you type more mines or Dorians? because we own your mind
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
'

lmfao another Dorian induced meltdown by Hulkster , hey who's name do you think you type more mines or Dorians? because we own your mind
how is it a meltdown when everything I have said is not only true, it is explained and shown in my comparisons?

 ::)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:09:29 PM
how is it a meltdown when everything I have said is not only true, it is explained and shown in my comparisons?

 ::)

because every post with Yates' name you interject your ignorance  ;) thats why the mention of Yates induces your meltdown lol

Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: m8 on September 09, 2008, 07:12:43 PM
A better shot but I don't think is standing relaxed from the front was the best ever , alot better than people give him credit for though

haaha, Sonny looks like he's about to faint.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:13:03 PM
because every post with Yates' name you interject your ignorance  ;) thats why the mention of Yates induces your meltdown lol



sorry, but I don't agree with the topic of thread, since dorian has had the WORSE relaxed pose EVER in a few of his post tear contests..

the 93 one looks good, but its far from the best ever.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Monster_Everything on September 09, 2008, 07:13:46 PM
A better shot but I don't think is standing relaxed from the front was the best ever , alot better than people give him credit for though
That shot is insane, prob. the best shot from the front ever dare I say, it captures his density and thickness.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nycbull on September 09, 2008, 07:14:41 PM


he also need some quad cuts and some more sweep to really get the classic look.

 


thats the whole problem, which classic look?, from what era?,,, to me Dorian looks perfectly classic, Ronnie too extreme, but its a generational thing so there is really no wrong or right...thats what hard about this sport, who knows which version of classic or ideal the judges have in their heads...but since it isnt really solveable the arguments will just continue
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:14:42 PM
sorry, but I don't agree with the topic of thread, since dorian has had the WORSE relaxed pose EVER in a few of his post tear contests..

the 93 one looks good, but its far from the best ever.

Neither do I  ;) however ANY mention of Yates' name induces a multiple thread meltdown its your M.O.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:18:03 PM
Neither do I  ;) however ANY mention of Yates' name induces a multiple thread meltdown its your M.O.



its not my fault he has a bad rep on the boards lately...and with bodybuilding sites like Muscletime..lol

maybe if his physique was more deserving of his perfect scores, this wouldn't happen.

and you would not have had to photoshop his pics... :-\
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:19:42 PM
thats the whole problem, which classic look?, from what era?,,, to me Dorian looks perfectly classic, Ronnie too extreme, but its a generational thing so there is really no wrong or right...thats what hard about this sport, who knows which version of classic or ideal the judges have in their heads...but since it isnt really solveable the arguments will just continue

Hulkster cherry picks the judging criteria , the criteria calls for balance & proportion , muscular bulk , density & dryness , posing & presentation , completeness

they take into account torso length , arms length in relation to the torso , upper & lower body balance , proportion of the calves to the quads , forearms to the biceps/triceps , etc , etc

he thinks because Ronnie has a narrow waist & hips and a great taper thats all that matters , typical ignorant fan-boy ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS all the criteria is applied in every single shot

Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:23:01 PM


its not my fault he has a bad rep on the boards lately...and with bodybuilding sites like Muscletime..lol

maybe if his physique was more deserving of his perfect scores, this wouldn't happen.

and you would not have had to photoshop his pics... :-\

I love how you just make blanket statements , like bodybuilding sites when its just the one site lol and I asked you to provide ONE single magazine coverage stating Dorian should have lost in 1992 We're all waiting  ;)

and you're the dummy who was busted using enchanced screencaps by Kevin Horton lol
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 09, 2008, 07:25:08 PM
you can see the difference in proportions comparing Ronnie's arm/torso to dorian's arms/torso.

ronnie are in perfect proportion with one another.

dorian's needed to a be a little bigger to get the proportions right.

he also need some quad cuts and some more sweep to really get the classic look.

 



But in the pic. u put Ronnie was not totally relaxed.. Most of them keep contracting their muscles while waiting for their turns onstage to look good but sometimes they are detected totally relaxed by cameras and most of the big guys like Ronnie or Dorian don't look good as their abs are bloted.. Others like Flex Wheeler look very good while relaxed.. I believe there is no big diff. between him relaxed and contracted..
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: RC Money on September 09, 2008, 07:25:43 PM
These two guys ruin lots of threads with their bull shit based on their worthless opinions. Fact is that most people and bodybuilders who saw both men were more impressed by ronnie and going by ifbb criteria is stupid as they have shown inconsistancy in judging through out the years, but its a waste of time for you two diehard fan boys to argue over it as neither is willing to even consider on anothers points and are blinded by what apears to be obssesive homosexual lust for ron nd dorian. You guys are likea virus that infests every thread with the mere metion of these gentlemen.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:27:51 PM
These two guys ruin lots of threads with their bull shit based on their worthless opinions. Fact is that most people and bodybuilders who saw both men were more impressed by ronnie and going by ifbb criteria is stupid as they have shown inconsistancy in judging through out the years, but its a waste of time for you two diehard fan boys to argue over it as neither is willing to even consider on anothers points and are blinded by what apears to be obssesive homosexual lust for ron nd dorian. You guys are likea virus that infests every thread with the mere metion of these gentlemen.

STFU noob bump up that post count before you address me , this is my house and you better wipe your feet before you step into my house.  ;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: RC Money on September 09, 2008, 07:30:38 PM
STFU noob bump up that post count before you address me , this is my house and you better wipe your feet before you step into my house.  ;)
Ok fag  ::). Carry on and continue to masturbate to the keg, bitch.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nycbull on September 09, 2008, 07:34:50 PM
Hulkster cherry picks the judging criteria , the criteria calls for balance & proportion , muscular bulk , density & dryness , posing & presentation , completeness

they take into account torso length , arms length in relation to the torso , upper & lower body balance , proportion of the calves to the quads , forearms to the biceps/triceps , etc , etc

he thinks because Ronnie has a narrow waist & hips and a great taper thats all that matters , typical ignorant fan-boy ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS all the criteria is applied in every single shot



all of that is still very objective,,,where I am looking at sillohuette and lines, is that the same as balance and proportion....

anyway... Just taking Dorians left arm in the relaxed pose its amazing how the tricep curve sweeps into the elbow and then the curve continues through the forearm uninterrupted...where Ronnie's tricep and forearm are lumpy, one bulge lumped against another, no flow at all.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2008, 07:35:24 PM
Ok fag  ::). Carry on and continue to masturbate to the keg, bitch.

continue to project your latent homoerotic fantasies of make masturbation  ;) we all know whats on your mind .
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:52:12 PM
Hulkster cherry picks the judging criteria , the criteria calls for balance & proportion , muscular bulk , density & dryness , posing & presentation , completeness

they take into account torso length , arms length in relation to the torso , upper & lower body balance , proportion of the calves to the quads , forearms to the biceps/triceps , etc , etc

he thinks because Ronnie has a narrow waist & hips and a great taper thats all that matters , typical ignorant fan-boy ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS all the criteria is applied in every single shot



lol dumbass ND throws his 'all rounds are phyisque rounds' line into a discussion of the relaxed pose in the symmetry round LOL

what a dumbass. ::)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:53:09 PM
Ok fag  ::). Carry on and continue to masturbate to the keg, bitch.

the keg is right!
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Rich2 on September 09, 2008, 07:55:21 PM
best ever... complete package... total flow of physique

HAHAHAHAHAHA!  lunacy...
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
if we are speaking stricly "outlines" I don't think anyone can match this shot of Ronnie, even though its not his best shape:

this is like a fucking cartoon character:
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: RC Money on September 09, 2008, 08:11:01 PM
continue to project your latent homoerotic fantasies of make masturbation   ;) we all know whats on your mind .
That makes sense dipshit.
You probrably should'nt acuse others of this type of behavior when you have thousands of posts gay worshiping Dorian yates and defending him like he's your gay lover, only I'm sure Dorian himself would be disgusted at knowing he has a fucking sick obssesive "fan" like your self and would most likely knock your creepy ass out if he ever met you  ;).
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: RC Money on September 09, 2008, 08:12:16 PM
if we are speaking stricly "outlines" I don't think anyone can match this shot of Ronnie, even though its not his best shape:

this is like a fucking cartoon character:
:o
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 08:15:23 PM
That makes sense dipshit.
You probrably should'nt acuse others of this type of behavior when you have thousands of posts gay worshiping Dorian yates and defending him like he's your gay lover, only I'm sure Dorian himself would be disgusted at knowing he has a fucking sick obssesive "fan" like your self and would most likely knock your creepy ass out if he ever met you  ;).

hahahaha great post!
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: marcus on September 09, 2008, 08:28:26 PM
Who is that between Hollywood Levrone and Ronnie?
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 08:45:01 PM
george foreman
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nycbull on September 09, 2008, 08:46:23 PM
if we are speaking stricly "outlines" I don't think anyone can match this shot of Ronnie, even though its not his best shape:

this is like a fucking cartoon character:

that is amazing no doubt, just unreal and for the cartoon character look, he is the best....no doubt.  Dorian never had that cartoon quality look and that was his appeal, his look was more daVinci, michealangelo...it just a generational shift in what is considered ideal

I was wondering what is the age difference between you and ND
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2008, 09:50:43 PM
hard to say..

ND acts like he is 3 so...
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nukkaready on September 10, 2008, 07:00:08 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: sculpture on September 10, 2008, 07:13:24 AM
Good picture.

Calves phenomenal.

Excellant all round proportions in that shot.

A couple of things missing of course but i neednt go into that
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 10, 2008, 09:05:19 AM
Massive torso
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 10, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
as impressive as Dorian looks, I still think Ronnie has him beat in the front relaxed pose. Pick a version.

99

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie71.jpg)

01 ASC

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman69.jpg)

02 BFTO

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie12.jpg)

03

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman1.jpg)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: sculpture on September 10, 2008, 10:51:30 AM
He does look impressive.

But ronnie looks more impressive.

That s a statement that can be made free of bias.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: nukkaready on September 10, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
dorian's physique has a flow to it... ronnie is just a compilation of body parts that don't flow or match.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Earl1972 on September 10, 2008, 11:19:00 AM
For some reason I just don't like Yates' physique. Dunno why

get in line, he killed bodybuilding

E
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 03:10:57 PM
as impressive as Dorian looks, I still think Ronnie has him beat in the front relaxed pose. Pick a version.

99

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie71.jpg)

01 ASC

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman69.jpg)

02 BFTO

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie12.jpg)

03

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman1.jpg)

agreed. its the arms that do it for me.

ronnie's are in perfect proportion to his upper body.

dorian's are noticably undersized..
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 04:18:47 PM
agreed. its the arms that do it for me.

ronnie's are in perfect proportion to his upper body.

dorian's are noticably undersized..

lmfao perfect proportion my ass his forearms are NOT in proportion with his biceps/triceps and his calves aren't in proportion with his quads and that's not even mentioning arm length in relation to the torso , torso length , upper & lower balance , etc , etc
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 05:26:34 PM
" One thing kept Big Ron out in front, and that was his size, pure and simple. He wasn't well proportioned. He wasn't symmetrical. But he was undoubtedly, indisputably enormous."

stating the blatantly obvious

Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: johnny on September 10, 2008, 05:55:40 PM
lmfao perfect proportion my ass his forearms are NOT in proportion with his biceps/triceps and his calves aren't in proportion with his quads and that's not even mentioning arm length in relation to the torso , torso length , upper & lower balance , etc , etc
Agreed, as massive as Ronnie was in his prime his Quads ALWAYS were way out of wack with his calves witch is why i beleave Dorian would win if the 2 went head to head in there primes, if the 2 were being judged on the TOTAL PACKAGE... Ronnie = Awesome whao factor size, cuts etc..Dorian (in his prime) = TOTAL BALANCE from top to bottom..not a knock on Ronnie just a comparison of the 2 at their best.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 06:04:17 PM
Agreed, as massive as Ronnie was in his prime his Quads ALWAYS were way out of wack with his calves witch is why i beleave Dorian would win if the 2 went head to head in there primes, if the 2 were being judged on the TOTAL PACKAGE... Ronnie = Awesome whao factor size, cuts etc..Dorian (in his prime) = TOTAL BALANCE from top to bottom..not a knock on Ronnie just a comparison of the 2 at their best.

You're right on the money when all things are considered Yates would win , balance & proportion , density & dryness , posing & presentation and size , Yates wins
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 06:27:50 PM
lmfao perfect proportion my ass his forearms are NOT in proportion with his biceps/triceps and his calves aren't in proportion with his quads and that's not even mentioning arm length in relation to the torso , torso length , upper & lower balance , etc , etc

so, you say all this but ignore the fact that dorian has toothpick arms compared to his torso and almost no quad sweep to speak of?

 ::)

Look for yourself:
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 06:32:12 PM
so, you say all this but ignore the fact that dorian has toothpick arms compared to his torso and almost no quad sweep to speak of?

 ::)

Look for yourself:

See for yourself you ate cherry picking what YOU think wins a pose and you're ignoring all the rest thats NOT how mens professional bodybuilding works all rounds are physique rounds ALL of the criteria is assessed at the same time

and Ronnie's forearms are NOT in proportion with his biceps/triceps his calves are NOT in proportion with his quads and that's just at the base level

" One thing kept Big Ron out in front, and that was his size, pure and simple. He wasn't well proportioned. He wasn't symmetrical. But he was undoubtedly, indisputably enormous.

and you glossed over this for a very good reason  ;)

and this picture is from the same contest , Dorian's arms when viewed dead-on APPEAR to small but turned slightly his arms are massive and in proportion with the rest of his physique its so easy to own you , no wonder why Kevin Horton called you a ' retard ' lol
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 06:34:15 PM
yes, they appear small from the front.

hence, they appear small in the front relaxed shot.

which is the subject of this thread.. ::)

holy shit you are stupid

and you follow me around like a lost puppy - I go away for a few hours, post once and you are right there 3 seconds later.

do you just sit on here waiting for me to post or what? ::)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 06:44:35 PM
You have to be the same guy posting with just a split personality? It just doesn't make any sense any other way?

no, ND sits on his computer and waits for me to post.

yes, he is that much of a loser.

he follows me around like a lost puppy dog..
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 06:56:06 PM
yes, they appear small from the front.

hence, they appear small in the front relaxed shot.

which is the subject of this thread.. ::)

holy shit you are stupid

and you follow me around like a lost puppy - I go away for a few hours, post once and you are right there 3 seconds later.

do you just sit on here waiting for me to post or what? ::)

Again you keep cherry picking the criteria for what YOU like , you didn't dare address any of my points out of fear and the subject is the thread is exactly what you're running from

" One thing kept Big Ron out in front, and that was his size, pure and simple. He wasn't well proportioned. He wasn't symmetrical. But he was undoubtedly, indisputably enormous.

stating the obvious

and you're pathetic trying to use my arguments lol you really reduced yourself LOL no wonder why Kevin Horton refered to you as a ' retard ' lmfao
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: TrapsMcLats on September 10, 2008, 06:59:06 PM
I really don't understand how dorian won so many times.  in 93 he looked great... but other than that he just gets beaten badly in so many contests.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
Quote
One thing kept Big Ron out in front, and that was his size, pure and simple. He wasn't well proportioned. He wasn't symmetrical. But he was undoubtedly, indisputably enormous

I would agree if we are speaking of 290 pound 2003 and up Ronnie.

but NOT 1998/1999 Ronnie.

two completely different looks...
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
no, ND sits on his computer and waits for me to post.

yes, he is that much of a loser.

he follows me around like a lost puppy dog..

LMFAO it so easy to own you

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=233409.0

hey how does it feel getting your ass kicked in every thread you follow me in? every word YOU type is ND or Dorian , the both of us occupy 50% of your brain

Hulkster say my name , say my name  ;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
I really don't understand how dorian won so many times.  in 93 he looked great... but other than that he just gets beaten badly in so many contests.

exactly.

cue ND to ignore your post lol ::)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 07:01:05 PM
I would agree if we are speaking of 290 pound 2003 and up Ronnie.

but NOT 1998/1999 Ronnie.

two completely different looks...

You have it partially right his balance & proportion were better when he was lighter HOWEVER still not in Dorian's league
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
exactly.

cue ND to ignore your post lol ::)

I don't need to ignore anyone post unlike YOU , I'm still waiting for you to provide the quote where I said all 1999 screencaps are enhanced  ;)

I'll explain to HIM and the same way I did to YOU , Dorian won all those times because? he meet the criteria better than his contemporaries  ;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 07:03:43 PM
and he was sucking off Joe Weider... 8)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 07:06:32 PM
and he was sucking off Joe Weider... 8)

See anyone who reads this see's you're exposed for the ignorant person you are , when you can't formulate a cognizant reply you crack out the default answer politics , its next to impossible to fix a bodybuilding contest if YOU knew how contests are judged you'd know this but you're ignorant

no wonder why Kevin Horton called you a ' retard ' lol

Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 07:10:06 PM
Kevin Thorton? who's he?

oh yeah, the guy who lost the thread and was proven so wrong so badly so bad he ran away?

thats right lol

great photographer no doubt.

but bad at admitting he was wrong and dealing with it LOL
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 07:12:26 PM
Kevin Thorton? who's he?

oh yeah, the guy who lost the thread and was proven so wrong so badly so bad he ran away?

thats right lol

great photographer no doubt.

but bad at admitting he was wrong and dealing with it LOL

yeah I thought so  ;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 07:31:59 PM
speaking of relaxed poses LOL
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 10, 2008, 07:33:44 PM
speaking of relaxed poses LOL

There is a reason you fear the great Yates' pics , keep trolling retard
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 10, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
speaking of relaxed poses LOL

lol look at his massive torso and undersized arms  :-\
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 10, 2008, 08:05:58 PM
lol look at his massive torso and undersized arms  :-\

no no no

dorian had perfect proprotions! better than ronnie! LOL

 ::) 8)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Dorian Fan on September 10, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
no no no

dorian had perfect proprotions! better than ronnie! LOL

 ::) 8)
FUCK YOU
dorian had bigger delts and triceps than kevin levrone  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 10:10:15 AM
lol look at his massive torso and undersized arms  :-\

same contest and like I asked you before are these ' undersized arms ' ?
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 10:13:54 AM
speaking of relaxed poses LOL
;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 11, 2008, 10:23:40 AM
same contest and like I asked you before are these ' undersized arms '?

it's pretty sad that his arm is bigger when he's not flexing. :-\
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 12:51:52 PM
it's pretty sad that his arm is bigger when he's not flexing. :-\

Its not when viewed directly dead on they appear small from the sides you can see how big his arms truly are
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 12:55:11 PM
it all depends on the angle with Yates
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 11, 2008, 02:07:53 PM
Its not when viewed directly dead on they appear small from the sides you can see how big his arms truly are

and how bad his biceps are.

they disappear in the side shots.. :-\
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
and how bad his biceps are.

they disappear in the side shots.. :-\

you have your angle keep using it , its all you have  ;)

Ronnie's weak underdeveloped calves can be seen in every single pose from every single angle you're always trapped in this Dorian's bicep was torn yet Ronnie has no calves lol

Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 11, 2008, 05:41:06 PM
I love how commenting on dorian's horrible biceps is an 'angle' according to ND. ::)

to everone else, its simply the truth about dorian's physique...
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: IceCold on September 11, 2008, 05:42:22 PM
sorry but ronnie has him beat in the relaxed pose:

much better quads (both cuts and sweep)

arms not undersized and overpowered by his torso

smaller waist:


umm, no, yates is better.

bigger and thicker lats.

horrible abs that ruin any kind of symmetry and calves to ruin the balance. 
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 05:47:49 PM
I love how commenting on dorian's horrible biceps is an 'angle' according to ND. ::)

to everone else, its simply the truth about dorian's physique...

no its an angle when you keep insisting they're small or weak which is both wrong

depending on the angle his arms can appear small and thats the angle you guys cling to as an accurate representation and its simply not true
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Emmortal on September 11, 2008, 05:48:39 PM
it all depends on the angle with Yates

Someone with large arms doesn't ever need to depend on the camera angle to show it.  Yates arms only look big when they are close to the camera (i.e. which is clearly shown in your pics) or pressed against his side allowing it to be pressed outward giving the illusion that it's larger than it really is.

I think Yates was one of the best, but anyone who thinks he had great arms is grossly biased.  His arms were definitely his weakest parts.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 11, 2008, 05:52:03 PM
Someone with large arms doesn't ever need to depend on the camera angle to show it.  Yates arms only look big when they are close to the camera (i.e. which is clearly shown in your pics) or pressed against his side allowing it to be pressed outward giving the illusion that it's larger than it really is.

I think Yates was one of the best, but anyone who thinks he had great arms is grossly biased.  His arms were definitely his weakest parts.

well said.

ND is just too stupid to comprehend this.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 05:56:28 PM
Someone with large arms doesn't ever need to depend on the camera angle to show it.  Yates arms only look big when they are close to the camera (i.e. which is clearly shown in your pics) or pressed against his side allowing it to be pressed outward giving the illusion that it's larger than it really is.

I think Yates was one of the best, but anyone who thinks he had great arms is grossly biased.  His arms were definitely his weakest parts.

WRONG his arms aren't his ' weakest ' parts see blanket statement . arms include biceps/triceps and forearms , obviously Yates' biceps aren't great however his triceps & forearms are

and NO his arms aren't pressed by his side in these two pics and his arms are massive by any standard
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 05:57:54 PM
well said.

ND is just too stupid to comprehend this.

See above ' retard '  ;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Hulkster on September 11, 2008, 06:01:05 PM
Quote
and his arms are massive by any standard


LOL not massive when someone who weighs 35 pounds less in contest shape has BIGGER arms...

 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: johnny1 on September 11, 2008, 06:03:33 PM
WRONG his arms aren't his ' weakest ' parts see blanket statement . arms include biceps/triceps and forearms , obviously Yates' biceps aren't great however his triceps & forearms are

and NO his arms aren't pressed by his side in these two pics and his arms are massive by any standard
That middle pic of Yates arms with the striped pants on is Fantastic looks like off-season 1992-93?
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:05:57 PM

LOL not massive when someone who weighs 35 pounds less in contest shape has BIGGER arms...

 ::) ::) ::) ::)

Bigger biceps NOT arms , forearms are part of ARMS and look at the pics I posted if you don't think his arms are massive you're in denial but thats nothing new
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:06:36 PM
That middle pic of Yates arms with the striped pants on is Fantastic looks like off-season 1992-93?

I think 1992 and Hulkster is claiming his arms aren't massive there lol
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:09:52 PM
This arm isn't weak by any means his biceps while obviously not as big as Coleman are developed , in proportion with his forearm and tricep a perfect balance throughout
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:13:30 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Iceman1981 on September 11, 2008, 06:19:34 PM
same contest and like I asked you before are these ' undersized arms ' ?

Don't you think any top pro bodybuilder close to 260 pounds while holding their arm like that will look big?
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: johnny1 on September 11, 2008, 06:19:56 PM
Balance from top to bottom
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:21:33 PM
Don't you think any top pro bodybuilder close to 260 pounds while holding their arm like that will look big?

So what are you saying? his arms really aren't big?
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:22:23 PM
Balance from top to bottom

You got that right ! top to bottom head to toe complete for all intents & purposes without flaws
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Iceman1981 on September 11, 2008, 06:25:54 PM
So what are you saying? his arms really aren't big?

They look big in that pic, but that's one of the few pics from 95' I've seen of his left arm looking big. There might be others.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:27:47 PM
They look big in that pic, but that's one of the few pics from 95' I've seen of his left arm looking big. There might be others.

Oh so you agree his arms are big in 1995? despite the tear

again when viewed directly dead on they appear small but from the side they're huge
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2008, 06:30:15 PM
And everyone makes a big deal over his torn bicep and its just an angle , there is a very small difference in between the the gap from the bicep to the forearm pre and post tear there is almost NO difference in all honesty , but biased haters need an angle
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Iceman1981 on September 11, 2008, 06:35:01 PM
Oh so you agree his arms are big in 1995? despite the tear

again when viewed directly dead on they appear small but from the side they're huge

No, I said they look big in that "pic". The reason they look big from the side is because his triceps are fully seen and his biceps are not fully seen.

From the front while flexed, well that's another "small" story. Doesn't really matter anyway. History is History.
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 11, 2008, 07:20:53 PM
And everyone makes a big deal over his torn bicep and its just an angle , there is a very small difference in between the the gap from the bicep to the forearm pre and post tear there is almost NO difference in all honesty , but biased haters need an angle

He was not that bad in 1994 as ppl always say.. Much better than 1997.. Look at his legs in the 94 pic comparing to the 93 one!!!..
Title: Re: Photo Proof - Best Front Relaxed Ever: Dorian Yates
Post by: suckmymuscle on September 12, 2008, 02:47:09 AM
  Dorian doesen't look that great from the front in the symmetry round. That is one of his few weaknesses. Notwithstanding, he still looked better when standing relaxed from the front then 99% of bodybuilders on thier best days, arguably due to his flaring lats, and this is saying something when you consider that this is arguably Dorian's worse pose...

SUCKMYMUSCLE