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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ganero76 on January 02, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
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He's been much more massive than this
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... or close thereto. He was actually even bigger at points, 260+, but quite smooth.
Of course, even at that weight, he didn't have a gut hanging all over the place. I'd be interested to know what he'd look like with gH, slin and test suspension, plus the usual gobs of Dbol. A lot of people think he'd resemble Schlierkamp, but Gunter's frame is a LOT heavier. Arnold's got girlie bird bones and always looked a lot heavier than he actually is/was (e.g., weighing ~225 at the '75 Olympia and 215-220 TOPS at the '80 rendition. Mentzer was an even more ripped 225, considerably shorter than Arnold and was STILL dwarfed Mike).
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40+ years later and the current crop of superstars just don't seem to "have it" :-\
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how's come that most guys nowadays have massive overdeveloped delts and shitty pecs ???
it was the exact opposite scenario in the 70s
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^ thats arnie at his biggest
huge in that last pic.
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Yup...........probably between 240-250 or thereabouts.
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Always loved that 2nd shot! Arnold's calves , back and arms look sick!
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Yea and that is What you call thick, not balloon like like guys with size today
^ thats arnie at his biggest
huge in that last pic.
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Arnold less tough than usual
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how's come that most guys nowadays have massive overdeveloped delts and shitty pecs ???
it was the exact opposite scenario in the 70s
(http://storage.sfd.pl/1/images2008/20080107032809.jpg)
(http://www.ilovebodybuilding.pl/img2/louferrigno/10.jpg)
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I would like to know the answer to this question
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The OP`s first couple of pics are from 1970........Mr. World telecast on Wide World of Sports..Arnold was very young and nowhere near as big or cut as he would get in later years.
While he was big at 19 and in his early 20`s he had plenty of weak points still and was far smoother than he was in later years as his knowledge increased and as his physique matured.
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I would like to know the answer to this question
For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
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For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is deltse to pin is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
very insightful Im betting that's bang on. I have heard that about delts before which is siorta proven when a newb starts a cycle. First thing to blow up is delts
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One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
Not to mention they trained 3-5 hours 6 days a week, unlike today with 45 minute workouts.
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Not to mention they trained 3-5 hours 6 days a week, unlike today with 45 minute workouts.
I work out much like they did back then. I resemble Arnold, Only less muscle more fat and about a foot shorter. and no hair other than that you would think we were twins
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For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is deltse to pin is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
Wes, do you think over time that sometimes the constant injections (of who knows what) will cause muscle necrosis or even Rhabdomyolysis?
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Not to mention they trained 3-5 hours 6 days a week, unlike today with 45 minute workouts.
IN TALKING TO JERRY BRAINUM......ARNIE AND MANY OTHERS TRAINED MORE LIKE 1 HOUR TO AN HOUR AND A HALF.....AND TRAINED WITH MORE MODERATE POUNDAGE AND NOT A TON OF REST IN BETWEEN SETS.......THEY WOULD TRAIN TWICE A DAY.......MANY CHAMPS DID TRAIN CLOSER TO 45 MINUTES......ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING THEY ONLY RESTED 45 SECONDS TO A MINUTE IN BETWEEN SETS.
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For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
This this this!
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No clue Adam,but I know lots of people who do over 100 shots a week,and do not look anything like you would think they would using such an insanely huge amount of drugs like that.
In fact,some of these guys look like hammered shit.
Muscle necrosis,not sure,but that many shots is gonna` leave a helluva` lot of scar tissue.
I`m not a doctor,though I do play one on TV! :D
Happy New Year BTW buddy....hope all is well with you and yours.
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IN TALKING TO JERRY BRAINUM......ARNIE AND MANY OTHERS TRAINED MORE LIKE 1 HOUR TO AN HOUR AND A HALF.....AND TRAINED WITH MORE MODERATE POUNDAGE AND NOT A TON OF REST IN BETWEEN SETS.......THEY WOULD TRAIN TWICE A DAY.......MANY CHAMPS DID TRAIN CLOSER TO 45 MINUTES......ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING THEY ONLY RESTED 45 SECONDS TO A MINUTE IN BETWEEN SETS.
Exactly,the norm for most would be about 1 hour or 90 minutes of training and that would be depending on what bodypart or bodypart split they were doing.
If a guy trained chest and back together,you could see it being 90 minutes to 2 hours or so,but they trained hard and fast as a rule
Arms-45 minutes and if abs were done also,maybe 15 minutes longer
5-6 hours a day?
NO WAY
Also in my opinion,most guys,and I emphasize most guys here,not everybody,but most guys who trained 2 X a day,did so only before a contest.
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Great pics T.A. !!
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hey wes....good to hear from you again.....I am going to send a pm.
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hey wes....good to hear from you again.....I am going to send a pm.
I was just gonna` wish you happy holidays my friend. :)
All the best brother! :)
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no oil too... unlike guys since mid 90s till now
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For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
The only thing anyone I knew to inject into their delts in the 70s was B-12. I suspect these weirdos of today shoot everything anywhere because of the tremendous buildup of scar tissue from so many injections every single day of their pitiful lives.
And if I could look like anyone it would be Steve Reeves and after that Reg Park. But among the druggies it would be Arnold and then Draper. Those along with Zane and a few others represent the best of both sides (natural and drugged) coin that is bodybuilding.
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Here`s a trivia quiz for the old bastards here.......does anyone know what those big rectangular pics are on the walls at the original Golds Gym in this photo?
If you guess correctly,you will win a years supply of Turtle Wax,a new set of Encyclopedia Brittanica,and a trip to Cancun.
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If you guess correctly,you will win a years supply of Turtle Wax,a new set of Encyclopedia Brittanica,and a trip to Cancun.
Blueprints? Cumputer plans?
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Wes, do you think over time that sometimes the constant injections (of who knows what) will cause muscle necrosis or even Rhabdomyolysis?
Of course it will, and shoulder and arm shots destroy nerves that innervate the arm muscles.. Hence old man tricep syndrome in long time delt injectors where the tris wither away. Any long time aas user should inject muscles as little as possible as every injection is literally destroying the tissue. Scar tissue, swelling sterile / infected abscesses ,injection granulomas, and all the contaminants in ug gear destroy muscle.
Those guys didn't have seo to stick in their delts.
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Here`s a trivia quiz for the old bastards here.......does anyone know what those big rectangular pics are on the walls at the original Golds Gym in this photo?
If you guess correctly,you will win a years supply of Turtle Wax,a new set of Encyclopedia Brittanica,and a trip to Cancun.
Railroad cars.
That's what the guys there told me when I went to lift there as a yoot.
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Railroad cars.
That's what the guys there told me when I went to lift there as a yoot.
I vaguely recall reading that in the original Pumping Iron book
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how's come that most guys nowadays have massive overdeveloped delts and shitty pecs ???
it was the exact opposite scenario in the 70s
Besides the previously mentioned responses, the 70's guys were taller, and had bigger ribcages.
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Wes, do you think over time that sometimes the constant injections (of who knows what) will cause muscle necrosis or even Rhabdomyolysis?
I don't know. I never saw a bbers ass get any smaller. I have read studies on synthol eventually breaking down muscle tissue. I don't know if it's because of constantly having oil in the muscle or the much more frequent injections or both.
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It is a good point and one I've often wondered about. Why the pecs of the guys during the golden age seemed so much bigger and fuller than guys today. And they were using nearly as much gear, gh and insulin as they do today and that's not to mention the better training equipment they have today. I don't know if it's because the delts are so much bigger today that it's an illusion but when you look a guys like Evan who is on everything imaginable and in huge doses with better equipment and advances in training and nutrition you would think he could at least equal what was achieved 30-40 years ago.
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Here`s a trivia quiz for the old bastards here.......does anyone know what those big rectangular pics are on the walls at the original Golds Gym in this photo?
If you guess correctly,you will win a years supply of Turtle Wax,a new set of Encyclopedia Brittanica,and a trip to Cancun.
I'm an old bastard, don't ever remember a mention of it in anything I have read or seen!
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Railroad cars.
That's what the guys there told me when I went to lift there as a yoot.
Yes,they are diagrams of railroad cars.
Your prizes are speeding your way as we speak! ;D
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I'm an old bastard, don't ever remember a mention of it in anything I have read or seen!
Jeff Preston told me years ago on Iron Age..I think writer Dick Tyler told him..can`t remember for sure though.
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arnold had one of the most unique and impressive musclature of all time,,no one has that chest look,bi's ,and his back for that era had a life of its own..
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arnold had one of the most unique and impressive musclature of all time,,no one has that chest look,bi's ,and his back for that era had a life of its own..
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I would like to know the answer to this question
Maybe site injections in the delts??
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arnold had one of the most unique and impressive musclature of all time,,no one has that chest look,bi's ,and his back for that era had a life of its own..
The thing is he had the perfect structure, large full muscle bellies, a short torso, low pecs and lats, and long peaked biceps. I don't think we'll see another like him for a long time.
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Not to mention he was a big guy which made his physique that much more imposing. Arnold was King
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how's come that most guys nowadays have massive overdeveloped delts and shitty pecs ???
it was the exact opposite scenario in the 70s
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(http://www.ilovebodybuilding.pl/img2/louferrigno/10.jpg)
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Different kind of training, different drugs, free weight vs ergonomically P.O.S machines. For example, have anyone try the wide grip bench presses? Gives brand new dimensions what comes to muscle soreness after chest day. What I am saying is the fact, that if these old school builders used let say 350 exercises with 200 variations, modern builders use 150 and 50. If you think about it, there is plenty of exercises which are "out dated" because there is "better way" to train that muscle. There is more efficient drugs, so you don't have to train as much as these guys did. Furthermore, they used old school method, like clean techniques, good range of motion etc. while modern heroes teach just opposite. If you look videos where these guys are training, you don't even recognize all the exercises and their training look silly. When you look their bodies in their prime, you wonder how the hell it is possible. They know their shit, because they just about invented the sport and training, and all what has happen after it, is endless attempt to get there easier and faster. We have streamlining the training so far that outcome of it can't be same.
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Yes,they are diagrams of railroad cars.
Your prizes are speeding your way as we speak! ;D
Sweet! ;D
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how's come that most guys nowadays have massive overdeveloped delts and shitty pecs ???
it was the exact opposite scenario in the 70s
Maybe because one cannot inject oil in pecs?
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That's not Tony Jaa
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I would like to know the answer to this question
big pecs and delts in max natural proportions of yesteryears = hard training + roids
impossible big delts lacking pecs of today = not much hard work + a lot of swelling agents
ever tried to synthol up pecs?
then you ll know why they use delts today ;)
but if you use synthol in your delts then you cant hit pecs hard in your workouts
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Great shot. His legs are big there.
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No GH, insulin or synthol
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look at these little shrimps like phil heath now haha.
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This was Arnold at his "massivest" 1971.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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"The one and only"! !!
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The True Oak
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We'll never see another like Arnold. For that matter, we'll never see another like Coleman, Yates, Jay or Heath.
But those last four (and others like them)? Nobody cares to see their kind. Maybe the schomes do but who here is a schmoe? They suck and are even more bottle built than the Oak. Arnold and others of that era built a strong foundation with basic exercises like the men before them did. These tools of the last couple of decades? Their foundation is more like Max Factor.
All pancake makeup, lightly applied.
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how's come that most guys nowadays have massive overdeveloped delts and shitty pecs ???
it was the exact opposite scenario in the 70s
(http://storage.sfd.pl/1/images2008/20080107032809.jpg)
(http://www.ilovebodybuilding.pl/img2/louferrigno/10.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LA4iM5N45PU/Tr4fD0t-BII/AAAAAAAAD4g/OTTCNiVreXs/s1600/two.jpg)
Simple answer: BENCH PRESS. Guys from the past did a lot of bench press (free weights). Today's guys use machines.
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I know it's sacrilege to say it but I have always preferred Nubret's physique to Arnold's. By some distance.
Obviously Arnold beats everyone on personality, force of will and charisma.
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For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
I don't think Big Louie ever did full range motion in any exercise. If you saw Pumping Iron, you know what I'm talking about. His incline bench press was atrocious, YET, he had close to a 60" chest.
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This was Arnold at his "massivest" 1971.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bodyweight?
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The True Oak
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That blonde dude's not posing correctly. As Arnold told the little guy in Pumping Iron that he needs to go big and open his arms. This guy isn't taking Arnies advice ;)
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That blonde dude's not posing correctly. As Arnold told the little guy in Pumping Iron that he needs to go big and open his arms. This guy isn't taking Arnies advice ;)
"Open up. Show them. Show them the whole thing."
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"Open up. Show them. Show them the whole thing."
Isn't that how Goatse started?
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PI clips never get old. Such a classic. The only reason why most of us are still here.
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Great shot. His legs are big there.
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That looks shopped.
The greatest ever nonetheless.
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"Open up. Show them. Show them the whole thing."
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That looks shopped.
The greatest ever nonetheless.
Unfortunately, it is. And the last thing you would need to shop on Arnold is his bicep peak. This pic just makes his bi look ridiculous and phony. Why ruin something that is near perfection.
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I love these Arnold threads, can never have enough of it.
I've seen all those pics a million times, and still I look at them with admiration each time again.
The greatest of all times. Youngsters who dare to compare him to today's physiques and talk down on him, only show that they don't know anything about bodybuilding. I've never met a serious bodybuilder who talked down on Arnold (except Mike Mentzer ;-)).
I'm glad Wes is always there to do the honors when it comes to Arnold ;-)
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I love these Arnold threads, can never have enough of it.
I've seen all those pics a million times, and still I look at them with admiration each time again.
The greatest of all times. Youngsters who dare to compare him to today's physiques and talk down on him, only show that they don't know anything about bodybuilding. I've never met a serious bodybuilder who talked down on Arnold (except Mike Mentzer ;-)).
I'm glad Wes is always there to do the honors when it comes to Arnold ;-)
Mentzer criticized his training principles as not being optimal not Arnold as a bodybuilder. He considered Arnold a genetic marvel and was one of the first to propose the importance of genetics in bodybuilding. He said Arnold would have been Arnold even if he trained with rocks.
But it's true that no one is more important that Joe Weider and Arnold as far as the world of bodybuilding goes. Their synergistic relationship made history.
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That looks shopped.
The greatest ever nonetheless.
Now that I have my glasses on, I can see the shopping. Getting old sucks.
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For starters,most guys back then mainly pinned only glutes..............now a huge go to site for pinning is delts.
I personally do not believe that site injections help,but over time they will impart more size and roundness to delts more than any other bodypart for some reason......possibly because they contain more receptors....I`m not sure.
Better pecs=full range of motion and 6-12 reps,not sloppy half reps or 1/4 reps with a zillion pounds for a triple in shitty form.
One more thing and I know this to be a fact is that those guys had more passion for training as money wasn`t a motivating factor....ie.,they trained harder because they lived for training not a check of $1000.00 which was the Olympia purse back then.
Has nothing to do with this imo... more to do with the fact that these guys would literally do tons and tons of various flyes... cable, dumbells whatever not just as a 'finisher' excercise but as a serious chest workout...and they would do it 3x a week too.... these days people WRONGLY focus on pressing movements which is PRIMARILY a front delt and tricep excercise. Its no coincidence that my chest was utter shit relative to my delts too untill i did boat loads of flyes instead of pressing...
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you want better pecs = DIPS AND PULL OVER in various form.
Bench press only in full rom and controlled reps.
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you want better pecs = DIPS AND PULL OVER in various form.
Bench press only in full rom and controlled reps.
er no.
Pullover is a lat exercise.
and if anything you should limit the rom with any form of presses to limit shoulder and tri activation...never lockout etc.
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Simple answer: BENCH PRESS. Guys from the past did a lot of bench press (free weights). Today's guys use machines.
so your saying it's all arthur jones fault???? you may have a point there.
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Pullover is a lat exercise.
and if anything you should limit the rom with any form of presses to limit shoulder and tri activation...never lockout etc.
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Serratus and pecs, if you've ever done it hard you can feel it in the pec region as well.
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Wes, do you think over time that sometimes the constant injections (of who knows what) will cause muscle necrosis or even Rhabdomyolysis?
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Scott Steiners pecs are actually due to a wrestling accident where his trachea was torn and having surgery in 2007. He likely didn't get implants because it would have been a waste of money at his age and just got a tattoo over it
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Where is this shot taken?,looks more like Florida than so cal
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hows all getbig wants to look
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Yes,they are diagrams of railroad cars.
Your prizes are speeding your way as we speak! ;D
To be more accurate, they are schematics for refrigerated rail cars.
Old guys sometimes know everything. :D
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To be more accurate, they are schematics for refrigerated rail cars.
Old guys sometimes know everything. :D
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That looks shopped.
The greatest ever nonetheless.
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I've never seen those last 3 pics. Cool.
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those are the ones for the lucy show when arnie rubs down the old redhead. hard to believe she started out with an appearance in a 3 stooges short.
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Where is this shot taken?,looks more like Florida than so cal
Hawaii