Are UFOs real ?

[Archer77]

Perhaps you missed this, and let me know if you'd like extra-large fonts to go with it:

Please show me where you've accounted for science, technology and determination.

Its a simple question.   Why do you believe no evidence to the contrary somehow makes that which has no evidence possible?  How did you come to this conclusion? 

[Jack T. Cross]

Its a simple question.   Why do you believe no evidence to the contrary (combined with the presence of science, technology and determination) somehow makes that which has no evidence possible?  How did you come to this conclusion? 

Fixed.

Fog starting to clear?

[Jack T. Cross]

This thread's been an interesting look into the way different people think, I'll say that.

[Archer77]

Fixed.

Fog starting to clear?

That isn't what you said.

[Archer77]

Its a simple question.   Why do you believe no evidence to the contrary (combined with the presence of science, technology and determination) somehow makes that which has no evidence possible?  How did you come to this conclusion?  



Explain how science, technology and determination combined with no evidence to contrary work together?  Define determination?

[Jack T. Cross]

That isn't what you said.

I do tend to assume the person reading has a functioning brain, and has not suddenly emerged from cave hibernation, or from under a rock (ahem), etc., yes.

I seem to be learning my lesson in that regard, though.

[Archer77]

I do tend to assume the person reading has a functioning brain, and has not suddenly emerged from cave hibernation, or from under a rock, etc., yes.

I seem to be learning my lesson in that regard, though.

How does no evidence to the contrary make something possible?  Do you believe aliens visit the Earth?  

Explain how science, technology and determination combined with no evidence to the contrary work together?  Define determination?

[Jack T. Cross]

How does no evidence to the contrary make something possible?  Do you believe aliens visit the Earth?  

Explain how science, technology and determination combined with no evidence to the contrary work together?  Define determination?

As mentioned several times before, I don't know and won't pretend to know.

How about you?

[Archer77]

As mentioned several times before, I don't know and won't pretend to know.

How about you?

Why then do you claim they do if you don't know?

[Jack T. Cross]

Why then do you claim they do if you don't know?

Give me the quote.

[Archer77]

Give me the quote.

First,  why do you believe no proof to the contrary has any significance on whether something is possible?    And, do you know what an argument from ignorance is?

[Jack T. Cross]

First,  why do you believe no proof to the contrary has any significance on whether something is possible?    And, do you know what an argument from ignorance is?

Archer, give me the quote, please.

[Archer77]

Archer, give me the quote, please.

Answer my questions please.

[OzmO]

Do you claim to be in the NSA, now, Oz?

 

Do you claim to know if i am in or not in?

[Jack T. Cross]

No quote?

Let me get this straight. You jumped into the thread like Helter Skelter. Didn't even know my stand.

Yet you challenged me NONE-THE-LESS.

What does this say about yourself?

[Archer77]

No quote?

Let me get this straight. You jumped into the thread like Helter Skelter. Didn't even know my stand.

Yet you challenged me NONE-THE-LESS.

What does this say about yourself?

Did you ever look up an argument from ignorance?   How does no evidence make something possible? 

[Archer77]

Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient investigation and therefore insufficient information to prove the proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four, (1) true, (2) false, (3) unknown between true or false, and (4) being unknowable (among the first three).[2] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

[OzmO]

No quote?

Let me get this straight. You jumped into the thread like Helter Skelter. Didn't even know my stand.

Yet you challenged me NONE-THE-LESS.

What does this say about yourself?

I say it says he knows how to spot people who talk out of their asses. 

[Jack T. Cross]

Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient investigation and therefore insufficient information to prove the proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four, (1) true, (2) false, (3) unknown between true or false, and (4) being unknowable (among the first three).[2] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Fortunately, Archer, any person that's bored enough can read our discussion, and its very strange process. It's definitely one for the records, I must say.

[Donny]

Too many pilots and People all around the world have seen things. The proof for me is the Ancient drawings and Art work. Contact has been made between us and them.. i think that it will come out very soon. People talk about being taken by aliens and are ridiculed so how many People say nothing? I think in the US there are Underground Research centres.

[Archer77]

Too many pilots and People all around the world have seen things. The proof for me is the Ancient drawings and Art work. Contact has been made between us and them.. i think that it will come out very soon. People talk about being taken by aliens and are ridiculed so how many People say nothing? I think in the US there are Underground Research centres.

I would love it if Aliens were visiting our planet.  How cool would that be? How would you react if aliens suddently revealed themselves to the world?   

[Donny]

I would love it if Aliens were visiting our planet.  How cool would that be? How would you react if aliens suddently revealed themselves to the world?   

i would ask them..."How much do ya Bench" ?...

[Donny]

I think my first thoughts would be what do they want ?  i would be careful that is for sure.. not just running up to them smiling saying wellcome we love you  This is where you guys in the US have it better you can get Armed and defend yourselfes.

[Archer77]

i would ask them..."How much do ya Bench" ?...

Haha. Do those skinny grays even lift?  

I think my first thoughts would be what do they want ?  i would be careful that is for sure.. not just running up to them smiling saying wellcome we love you   This is where you guys in the US have it better you can get Armed and defend yourselfes.

I agree, it would be wise to be skeptical but not overtly aggressive.   Remember that old tv series V?

[Donny]

yes i do... also this was on British TV around 71/72 canīt remember. Even as a small kid i loved the chicks with Purple hair and tight silver suits...still turns me on...