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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Christo on January 11, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
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Bostin Loyd op facebook :
Thank u for everyone who chimed in on my tren post yesterday.....
I personally plan on hitting 4-4.5 g testosterone in combined esters of enanthate, prop, and suspension, 2.1 grams tren in combined esters of tren hex and acetate, 2.1 grams mast prop, and 1.2 grams of primo..... this is not including orals.... you take what your body can handle stop reading forums.... this is a pussy free zone fellas :P
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Fuck yea its real! thats why Bostin is a top pro today, he aint afraid to push it.
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Yeh baby, 9.9g is the sweet spot
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What's that, 5 shots a day? Who has time for that, and for what? This guy must be in his early 20s?
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Bostin Loyd op facebook :
Thank u for everyone who chimed in on my tren post yesterday.....
I personally plan on hitting 4-4.5 g testosterone in combined esters of enanthate, prop, and suspension, 2.1 grams tren in combined esters of tren hex and acetate, 2.1 grams mast prop, and 1.2 grams of primo..... this is not including orals.... you take what your body can handle stop reading forums.... this is a pussy free zone fellas :P
4g t400 = 10ml
2g tren ace/hex = 20ml
2g mast prop = 20ml
1g primo = 10ml
60ml a week
9 ml a day
how the fuck does he deal with pip? 2ml a day and im crippled, cant raise my arms, cant sleep from the pain etc lol
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That's why all the 90's guys got hooked on that morphine based painkiller, the name of it slips my mind at the moment...to deal with multiple shots..
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nubain?
this is a pretty standard cycle for alot or pros.
wonder what GH and insulin hes runnin with that
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Yeh that's it... Nubain, most were hooked on it.. Only one reason to ever use it in the 1st place, to help deal with gallons of shots of gear and synthol..
I was in pain all the time from using 2ml ed in preps, that's when you start fucking about looking fir fresh sites to put it in...
Mazfit, how do you cope with extended multiple shots, do you get regular sports massage for scar tissue?
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lol^ i recently started pinning lats out of desperation
actually quite an easy spot
ventroglutes or glutes from the side on the other hand KILL me about every third shot
im literally crippled for a week and limping, sometimes theyre perfectly fine tho. i think its worse when i train legs later the day i pinned there
i love pinning quads but they can only take so much
delts i need to use 25G (27G everywhere else) and they already seem scarred even tho i hit quads probably 5x as much
sometimes just a week of only hitting 1ml instead of 2-3 a day seems to help for like a month or so
sitting on only 1 ass cheek as i type this :-\
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I hate glute shot I always cramp up and the shit takes like 5 mins to squeeze damn plunger out quads r way better. Tried to get my wife to do.it but she refuses to help
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lol^ i recently started pinning lats out of desperation
actually quite an easy spot
ventroglutes or glutes from the side on the other hand KILL me about every third shot
im literally crippled for a week and limping, sometimes theyre perfectly fine tho. i think its worse when i train legs later the day i pinned there
i love pinning quads but they can only take so much
delts i need to use 25G (27G everywhere else) and they already seem scarred even tho i hit quads probably 5x as much
sometimes just a week of only hitting 1ml instead of 2-3 a day seems to help for like a month or so
sitting on only 1 ass cheek as i type this :-\
quad shots were the worst, id limp for 3 days after, so i timed shots around muscles trained, quads shots after training legs etc
Id hit rear delts, side delts, triceps, biceps, quads and glutes... Some of which you will clip nerves and vessals for sure in doing so
i work as an engineer, so i had some very painfull days where you couldn't baby the sore sites.... Its the unkown pain of competing
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Ventrogluteal is my goto, never have PIP when I shoot there. A close second are lateral quads (closer to the waist, the higher the better in my experience). I've never shot shoulders or lats, not even sure how I'd be able to shoot lats... I HAVE shot bis, and the PIP is crazy! But the pump when training arms after shooting them is incredible!
Glutes are the worst to shoot, I'm just not flexible enough to twist into a pretzel like that to see what's going on back there.
Then again, I'd probably man up and start shooting shoulders and lats if I were on a ton of gear. Right now I'm running 3cc test e/wk and 3cc deca/wk (750mg test + 750mg deca) and only shooting 2ce a week. But when I was prepping for a show I pinned eod, and i switched between ventroglutes, quads, bis without a problem.
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quad shots were the worst, id limp for 3 days after, so i timed shots around muscles trained, quads shots after training legs etc
Id hit rear delts, side delts, triceps, biceps, quads and glutes... Some of which you will clip nerves and vessals for sure in doing so
i work as an engineer, so i had some very painfull days where you couldn't baby the sore sites.... Its the unkown pain of competing
i pin glutes, shoulder, triceps.
i have huuge scare tissue on my glutes you cant see it but you can feel it espssially when you jab through it it knda makes a creaking noise lol
no mate i dont get sports massages im looking into it though because sometimes the pain can be crippling.
also ive noticed that in my glute i get tren cough every single time now.
usually oput about 3ml in my shoulders, its probably to much as it kills.
i cant do quads to many nerves there for me leg goes all over the place and pain is horrific.
defionatley need rto look into sports massages though theres loads of birds around my area that do mobile massages, might get a shag while im at it too haha
i use codein painkillers if it gets unbearable - or to get through training
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shit, cant imagine what i would do if i couldnt shoot quads
ive shot quads like 500 times at least and ive NEVER hit a nerve there. also pretty much never hit a vein in quads, pip is also the very least uncomfortable in quads for me...
glutes or delts its fkin hit or miss with tren cough, my shoulders are veiny as fuck on the surface but i can only see the veins when i got a pump
with delt shots i had a few squirters when you pull the needle out and blood gushes all over the floor lol, but never in any other spots (quads get bloody maybe once every 20 shots)
but i can see all my quads veins when i put a desk light on, so i usually never hit veins there. same for lats, can see every single vein so no issues
can also shoot lower quad and then upper quad with pip-heavy gear because the muscle is big enough...
its pretty much hit or miss or it gets painful in any other spot except quads for me... love shooting quads, hope ill never scar up badly there
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I have pretty veiny quads, so hitting a vein is not an issue when I shoot them. I have hit nerves on a few occasions pinning quads, but I've noted where specifically it happens and avoid those areas, hasn't happened since.
Other body parts I have to trust myself that the needle won't hit a vein because, like Jizmo, I can only see veins (other than on abs for some reason) only when I have a pump or the room I'm in is very warm/hot. My upper body is very Cutler-esque when it comes to vascularity ;D aka non-existent for the most part.
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I call bullshit! Unless the gear is fake or extremely underdosed I don;t think anybody canb handle that kind of Trenbolone mixture! Sa,e with masteron Mixture. I believe the Testosterone claim but that is all. He must beb getting some super weak shit. Anybody who has made their own Tren from Fina pellets and converted them into Tren acetate hell if you used 100mg a day you would be a MESS! I'm talking just insane nitrogen retention every muscle popping, nice fat burning effect due to all the sweating.
The thing I can;t believe is somebody being able to hold up on 700mg a week of homemade Tren from Fina conversion Kits,hell the sweats are just horrible! The Insomnia is Horrible,It can kill your appetite, all sorts of awful side effects! Acne break outs like crazy, just very potent. I understand the Tren bostin uses is from just a chinese supplier so it is not as strong ans reputable as the Tren aceate made from the old school Fina conversion kits!
I would bet somebody would blow their head odff if they ran that much Tren from real fina pellets. Then if you were to add real poten masteron wich is strong DHT drug man you would be having some problems!Maybe he would do ok on the dosage of Test but if the tren was real potent like the stuff we used to make from the fina pellets No way that kid could handle 2 grams of that tren! Most of use couldn't handle 75mg a day. maybe 75mg EOD. Those side effects were awful. It worked! you would look godly withing a few weeks and almost stage ready or looking like you were 4-5 weeks out.
I have no idea what gear Bostin uses these days but he told me he was using balkan and stealth gear for the contra,
Now on the masteron my only question is why would somebody need to take that much masteron the old-school guys I used to work with only would use negmas when they were 6 weeks out and it was just 75mg EOD od a longer acting Trenbolone(Tren Hex) is what it was.
I hvae no idea the quality of gear this kid uses but if he did that old school Tren conversion kits from the fina pellsts and real Ngema parabolin plus the masteron Amps that kind would look insanely crazy looking,
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what your forgetting though is hes probably been on tren a while and what i have seen is a definate decrease in effectiveness as you get bigger, almost like your body becomes used to it
you still grow look solid ext.....but not to the vein popping skin shredding state it was when you first started a cycle of tren.
if i took 3 weeks off which i have then injected a vast amount of tren i feel horrible for a few days and pumped.
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I call bullshit! Unless the gear is fake or extremely underdosed I don;t think anybody canb handle that kind of Trenbolone mixture! Sa,e with masteron Mixture. I believe the Testosterone claim but that is all. He must beb getting some super weak shit. Anybody who has made their own Tren from Fina pellets and converted them into Tren acetate hell if you used 100mg a day you would be a MESS! I'm talking just insane nitrogen retention every muscle popping, nice fat burning effect due to all the sweating.
Agreed! The anxiety alone would be intolerable.
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nah not ture your body becomes used to it trust me
i felt worse off 500mg when i first started juicing then i do now over a gram.
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run tren for 6 months straight and youll never have sides from it again, only massive gains
i dont agree on the desensitization thing.. tren is the one AAS that ALWAYS gives gains. always.
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when i talk desensitisation im talking side effects
and the innitial huuge hardening and weight and fat loss that occurs with the first few weeks when you first start tren
like you i love tren and i dont come off.
the only sides i get is paranoia occasionaly and night sweats on a gram. thats it
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That's why all the 90's guys got hooked on that morphine based painkiller, the name of it slips my mind at the moment...to deal with multiple shots..
nubain
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nah not ture your body becomes used to it trust me
i felt worse off 500mg when i first started juicing then i do now over a gram.
Bro have you ever made your own Trenbolone acetate from Fina Pellets? It's a totally diffrent ballgame. We can't get fina pellets anymore so nobody can make that old school potent ass tren. There are a few guys who stocked up because they knew they would no longer be able to get fina pellets but making Tren acetate from Fina pellets and those conversion kits they used to sell were making some very potent Tren! No way in hell somebody could handle 1 gram a week of homemade Tren from fina pellets! Hell not even 500 grams a week if you were making it right.
some of us who have been around that long got to have the pleasure of making our own Tren acetate from fina pellets and conversion kits. The end product is Insane! That is how most of us know you can really only make 75mg per ml Tren. Now fast forward and now everything is made from chinese powders. I believe somebody could use way more Tren that is made from chinese powders you probably could run 1.5-2 grams if you worked your way up but I just think you still would be getting some super weak shit if you need that much Tren!
Man mazfit i wish you were able to make your own tren from fina pellets with a conversion kit then you would see the diffrence. It's night and day! Not saying all of the tren on todays market is shit but it isn't on that level! not even close 2 grams a week of that homemade Tren from Fina pellets and all the other steroids,HGH,slin and peptides that kid would blow his head off!
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That's why all the 90's guys got hooked on that morphine based painkiller, the name of it slips my mind at the moment...to deal with multiple shots..
Right now I am just cruising on 300mg of Test cyp and 750mg of EQ but when I was blasting there would be days I would do at least 8 shots. I did 3 shots just shooting insulin per day then throw in your gear shots. I know it is stupid but I don't like mixing compounds most stuff I like to site inject and I draw all my compounds up seperately, I alsoshoot Vitamin B complex so 8 shots easy! Then some days I did only a few shots. mainly the days I used insulin I would do alot more shots but insulin shots are pussy and very easy and painless to do but still can be a task
I won't lie I like taking xanax before I do my shots because it relaxes me and all my muscles get relaxed and it makes it way easier and more painless to do injections(you don't tense up). I can tell the diffrence. I remember the first time I did a shot without taking a dose of xanax that shot didn't really hurt but I noticed the PIP the next day was HORRIBLE ! I can do shots with or without xanax but it does help lot if I use xanax before I do all my shots. I am only talking 1mg of xanax before I take my shots because I have to train then I take another 3 mg after I train to help me sleep because I love my pre-workouts and stimulants and xanax brings me back to that calm level and i can sleep normally most of the time as you can see I always sign in real late! So Insomnia is a real problem.
I think they used nubain because it helped with their pain issues and then somebody said it also helped with killing cortisol so alot of bodybuilders used that whole" it helps kill off cortisol and you can train harder" gave these guys a mental excuse to use drugs. I would definately believe it would help big time when doing alot of injections but that is not what started the nubain use, it was mainly guys who were in pain and also got suckered into the whole "you can train harder on nubain" " Nubain lowers cortisol levels like crazy" all that bullshit just excuses to get high.
I do have a prescription for my xanax and it's precribed for Insomnia and anxiety in my case but wow dose it help with doing injections.
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Right now I am just cruising on 300mg of Test cyp and 750mg of EQ but when I was blasting there would be days I would do at least 8 shots. I did 3 shots just shooting insulin per day then throw in your gear shots. I know it is stupid but I don't like mixing compounds most stuff I like to site inject and I draw all my compounds up seperately, I alsoshoot Vitamin B complex so 8 shots easy! Then some days I did only a few shots. mainly the days I used insulin I would do alot more shots but insulin shots are pussy and very easy and painless to do but still can be a task
I won't lie I like taking xanax before I do my shots because it relaxes me and all my muscles get relaxed and it makes it way easier and more painless to do injections(you don't tense up). I can tell the diffrence. I remember the first time I did a shot without taking a dose of xanax that shot didn't really hurt but I noticed the PIP the next day was HORRIBLE ! I can do shots with or without xanax but it does help lot if I use xanax before I do all my shots. I am only talking 1mg of xanax before I take my shots because I have to train then I take another 3 mg after I train to help me sleep because I love my pre-workouts and stimulants and xanax brings me back to that calm level and i can sleep normally most of the time as you can see I always sign in real late! So Insomnia is a real problem.
I think they used nubain because it helped with their pain issues and then somebody said it also helped with killing cortisol so alot of bodybuilders used that whole" it helps kill off cortisol and you can train harder" gave these guys a mental excuse to use drugs. I would definately believe it would help big time when doing alot of injections but that is not what started the nubain use, it was mainly guys who were in pain and also got suckered into the whole "you can train harder on nubain" " Nubain lowers cortisol levels like crazy" all that bullshit just excuses to get high.
I do have a prescription for my xanax and it's precribed for Insomnia and anxiety in my case but wow dose it help with doing injections.
do you think people like phil heath rammy ect have access to fina pallets?
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keeping tabs on Boston Loyd is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
if you wanna make some extra money, put a "test" label on a bottle of water and ship it to bostin.
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Bostin Loyd op facebook :
Thank u for everyone who chimed in on my tren post yesterday.....
I personally plan on hitting 4-4.5 g testosterone in combined esters of enanthate, prop, and suspension, 2.1 grams tren in combined esters of tren hex and acetate, 2.1 grams mast prop, and 1.2 grams of primo..... this is not including orals.... you take what your body can handle stop reading forums.... this is a pussy free zone fellas :P
I believe it, I watched a video of him before talking about he had to stop a cycle in the middle because he was so sick he couldn't keep food down
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I believe it, I watched a video of him before talking about he had to stop a cycle in the middle because he was so sick he couldn't keep food down
so then this dude's testicles have to be totally vaporized. as in actually and truly gone.
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so then this dude's testicles have to be totally vaporized. as in actually and truly gone.
Does more gear shut you down more? I mean if you take 500mg test/wk or even TRT does that shut you down "more" or "harder" than running 4g test/wk? I've always thought any amount of exo test would shut you down completely until you come off (and then pray the boys come back full force, or as close as possible).
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do you think people like phil heath rammy ect have access to fina pallets?
It is possible. some guys did stock up a shitload of it. You would have to get very lucky to find real fina pellets with the conversion kits. crazy strong Tren. Even the stuff I buy is Alpha-Pharma and that isn't even close just chinese trenbolone acetate raws and of course labelled at 100mg per ml. not really possible with Fina pellets.50-75mg per ml otherwise it would get fucked up
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Does more gear shut you down more? I mean if you take 500mg test/wk or even TRT does that shut you down "more" or "harder" than running 4g test/wk? I've always thought any amount of exo test would shut you down completely until you come off (and then pray the boys come back full force, or as close as possible).
nah
hes got no clue what hes talking about
that being said, tren does vaporize your nuts much more than any other AAS (at least for me), but 200mg or 1g no difference.
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Does more gear shut you down more? I mean if you take 500mg test/wk or even TRT does that shut you down "more" or "harder" than running 4g test/wk? I've always thought any amount of exo test would shut you down completely until you come off (and then pray the boys come back full force, or as close as possible).
i can't give you a qualified answer, but i would think the more you put in the more your body has to process.
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nah
hes got no clue what hes talking about
that being said, tren does vaporize your nuts much more than any other AAS (at least for me), but 200mg or 1g no difference.
is it too personal a question to ask if you have any nuts left?
you don't have to answer of course.
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I call bullshit! Unless the gear is fake or extremely underdosed I don;t think anybody canb handle that kind of Trenbolone mixture! Sa,e with masteron Mixture. I believe the Testosterone claim but that is all. He must beb getting some super weak shit. Anybody who has made their own Tren from Fina pellets and converted them into Tren acetate hell if you used 100mg a day you would be a MESS! I'm talking just insane nitrogen retention every muscle popping, nice fat burning effect due to all the sweating.
The thing I can;t believe is somebody being able to hold up on 700mg a week of homemade Tren from Fina conversion Kits,hell the sweats are just horrible! The Insomnia is Horrible,It can kill your appetite, all sorts of awful side effects! Acne break outs like crazy, just very potent. I understand the Tren bostin uses is from just a chinese supplier so it is not as strong ans reputable as the Tren aceate made from the old school Fina conversion kits!
I would bet somebody would blow their head odff if they ran that much Tren from real fina pellets. Then if you were to add real poten masteron wich is strong DHT drug man you would be having some problems!Maybe he would do ok on the dosage of Test but if the tren was real potent like the stuff we used to make from the fina pellets No way that kid could handle 2 grams of that tren! Most of use couldn't handle 75mg a day. maybe 75mg EOD. Those side effects were awful. It worked! you would look godly withing a few weeks and almost stage ready or looking like you were 4-5 weeks out.
I have no idea what gear Bostin uses these days but he told me he was using balkan and stealth gear for the contra,
Now on the masteron my only question is why would somebody need to take that much masteron the old-school guys I used to work with only would use negmas when they were 6 weeks out and it was just 75mg EOD od a longer acting Trenbolone(Tren Hex) is what it was.
I hvae no idea the quality of gear this kid uses but if he did that old school Tren conversion kits from the fina pellsts and real Ngema parabolin plus the masteron Amps that kind would look insanely crazy looking,
Trust me bro i went quite high on the tren enanthate and i tend to believe him.
Altought on more than 1g of tren enanthate a week urine gets really dark and at 2g the urine is almost brown lol...
You feel pretty toxic at first but then the body seems to accustom.
I go pretty high since i do most of the time tren only cycle, those give me the best gains.
I hate test, for some reason i have limp dick when i add test
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Bro have you ever made your own Trenbolone acetate from Fina Pellets? It's a totally diffrent ballgame. We can't get fina pellets anymore so nobody can make that old school potent ass tren. There are a few guys who stocked up because they knew they would no longer be able to get fina pellets but making Tren acetate from Fina pellets and those conversion kits they used to sell were making some very potent Tren! No way in hell somebody could handle 1 gram a week of homemade Tren from fina pellets! Hell not even 500 grams a week if you were making it right.
some of us who have been around that long got to have the pleasure of making our own Tren acetate from fina pellets and conversion kits. The end product is Insane! That is how most of us know you can really only make 75mg per ml Tren. Now fast forward and now everything is made from chinese powders. I believe somebody could use way more Tren that is made from chinese powders you probably could run 1.5-2 grams if you worked your way up but I just think you still would be getting some super weak shit if you need that much Tren!
Man mazfit i wish you were able to make your own tren from fina pellets with a conversion kit then you would see the diffrence. It's night and day! Not saying all of the tren on todays market is shit but it isn't on that level! not even close 2 grams a week of that homemade Tren from Fina pellets and all the other steroids,HGH,slin and peptides that kid would blow his head off!
Haha my friend used to make some for me.
At first the tren cough was normal, than after a while i kind of got allergic to the struff and the tren cough became more and more intense.
Until 1 shot i started coughing for 15-20 mins, my tongue was burning and so were my eyes.
Felt bad for the whole day i tought i was going to die. Never took tren ace again
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is it too personal a question to ask if you have any nuts left?
you don't have to answer of course.
theyre probably still bigger than yours :D
and i havent touched hcg for a year
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Haha my friend used to make some for me.
At first the tren cough was normal, than after a while i kind of got allergic to the struff and the tren cough became more and more intense.
Until 1 shot i started coughing for 15-20 mins, my tongue was burning and so were my eyes.
Felt bad for the whole day i tought i was going to die. Never took tren ace again
what do you mean you became allergic to the stuff. :-\
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Perusing this board I couldnt help but notice the constant references to "cycles" with relatively low levels of testosterone, complaints about how testosterone makes you look "puffy," how other anabolics are so much superior to testosterone and even read someone suggest trenbolone as a first cycle.
If you have zero interest in becoming a successful bodybuilder then by all means pursue drug stacks with low - or zero - testosterone.
The fact of the matter is testosterone is the single most important drug in bodybuilding. First off, the concept of "cycles" is a terrible idea if you are trying to develop an outstanding physique. Do not ever come off testosterone, this should be common sense. You need higher testosterone levels than the human male will naturally produce to maintain - and obviously build - an impressive amount of muscle mass. A typical pro (or any successful bodybuilder for that matter) would have an offseason drug stack based around the "blast and cruise" concept. For example:
Weeks 1-12
4,000mg testosterone in various esters
200mg TNE pre workout
100mg dbol pre workout
100mg anadrol pre workout
1,050mg trenbolone acetate per week
2,000mg equipoise
1,050mg npp
1,000mg deca durabolin
32iu serostim daily
IM 15iu humalog prior to every meal
IM 30iu humalog prior to training
120mcg IGF-1 injected bilaterally in muscles trained
Weeks 13-16
2,000mg testosterone in various esters
16iu serostim daily
1,000mg equipoise
1,000mg deca durabolin
REPEAT to some degree, changing varying drug doses etc.
The point is that testosterone is necessary in large doses to promote muscle growth and size and to maintain that same muscle. In fact, there are a number of current pros whose offseason drugs are simply testosterone, deca, hgh and insulin. Trenbolone, equipoise, etc. often have an extremely amplified effect on metabolism and make it harder to gain weight when testosterone assists in letting most nutrients go into muscular (and yes, fat) storage.
The biggest bodybuilders are on the most testosterone, end of story.
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Boysten L takes 14 gr AAS per week
I personally think this guy is a fucking retard for some of the shit he says. Throws people under the bus during this interview, and I'm sure they don't want to be associated with gear. I don't mind the honest (only if he talks about himself.)
http://realworldmuscle.co/2013/10/29...sweet-l-o-v-e/
As of right now he says he is eating 5000 calories with cycle...
Cycle:
Oils...
Sust 250mgs ED (1750mgs)
Prop 100mgs ED (700mgs)
Primo 100-200mgs ED (700-1400mgs)
Mast 200mgs ED (1400mgs)
Tren 250mgs ED (1750mgs)
Winstrol 200mgs ED (1400mgs)
NPP 100mgs ED (700mgs)
EQ 150mgs ED (1050mgs)
Orals...
Prov 110mgs ED (770mgs)
Var 110mgs ED (770mgs)
Halo 60mgs ED (420mgs)
Winny 100mgs ED (700mgs)
Holy fucking shit!!!
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I call bullshit. Just what I think. that's fucking dumb 4 gs test a week I can see that but I doubt he's eating all those orals injecting 8 ccs of oil every day after 2 weeks of that you would b fucked wouldn't wven b able to train lol
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Perusing this board I couldnt help but notice the constant references to "cycles" with relatively low levels of testosterone, complaints about how testosterone makes you look "puffy," how other anabolics are so much superior to testosterone and even read someone suggest trenbolone as a first cycle.
If you have zero interest in becoming a successful bodybuilder then by all means pursue drug stacks with low - or zero - testosterone.
The fact of the matter is testosterone is the single most important drug in bodybuilding. First off, the concept of "cycles" is a terrible idea if you are trying to develop an outstanding physique. Do not ever come off testosterone, this should be common sense. You need higher testosterone levels than the human male will naturally produce to maintain - and obviously build - an impressive amount of muscle mass. A typical pro (or any successful bodybuilder for that matter) would have an offseason drug stack based around the "blast and cruise" concept. For example:
Weeks 1-12
4,000mg testosterone in various esters
200mg TNE pre workout
100mg dbol pre workout
100mg anadrol pre workout
1,050mg trenbolone acetate per week
2,000mg equipoise
1,050mg npp
1,000mg deca durabolin
32iu serostim daily
IM 15iu humalog prior to every meal
IM 30iu humalog prior to training
120mcg IGF-1 injected bilaterally in muscles trained
Weeks 13-16
2,000mg testosterone in various esters
16iu serostim daily
1,000mg equipoise
1,000mg deca durabolin
REPEAT to some degree, changing varying drug doses etc.
The point is that testosterone is necessary in large doses to promote muscle growth and size and to maintain that same muscle. In fact, there are a number of current pros whose offseason drugs are simply testosterone, deca, hgh and insulin. Trenbolone, equipoise, etc. often have an extremely amplified effect on metabolism and make it harder to gain weight when testosterone assists in letting most nutrients go into muscular (and yes, fat) storage.
The biggest bodybuilders are on the most testosterone, end of story.
Most of us even the ones with good hook ups and personal friends that help out can not afford this level of gear usage.
at 4g total gear usuage im feeling pretty unhealthy tbh canyt imagine at those levels
also can see the reason to run npp and deca just run 2g of deca or 2g of npp
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Most of us even the ones with good hook ups and personal friends that help out can not afford this level of gear usage.
at 4g total gear usuage im feeling pretty unhealthy tbh canyt imagine at those levels
also can see the reason to run npp and deca just run 2g of deca or 2g of npp
I think he mentioned before he does that so he doesn't need to take SEO because it doesn't mix well with the gear- the gear gets held up in the synthol. So he just shoots larger volumes of gear
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Why would anyone do that much gear??? For a plastic trophy? To be the "biggest guy" around (while any oly lifter could split you in half even if they weight much less)? No girls find it that attractive in any case...
I just don't get it...
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i get it it because thats me and if i could afford that much id probably do it for a bit and see how i got on
and i can assure you most of us dont do this for girls
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Why would anyone do that much gear??? For a plastic trophy? To be the "biggest guy" around (while any oly lifter could split you in half even if they weight much less)? No girls find it that attractive in any case...
I just don't get it...
And girls find that attractive? Pfff....
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And girls find that attractive? Pfff....
I don't know but at least it is pure functionnal strenght that has many spillover in many sports....
I really don't want to argue about that though. Each has merits and I don't want to judge guys going to the extremes but it is not the path I walk....
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I don't know but at least it is pure functionnal strenght that has many spillover in many sports....
I really don't want to argue about that though. Each has merits and I don't want to judge guys going to the extremes but it is not the path I walk....
OK... About the whole "functional"... If a guy (most can) bench 225, squat and deadlift 3 plates, he IS functional.
Why is there such an f'in stigmata that guys who train are not funcional??? the guy with a bit of cardio on top of this if provoked can be real dangerous if he wants to be...
But no... SO fun to say the guys are useless, can't wipe their own asses and shit like this. BAsically, hate towards those who look better than you
To all of you who think that way, deal with it suckers. We are functional, strong and can most likely cause more damage than you guys may think...
And to look like most oly lifters? To put that much time into lifting and not even look the part? Why the hell bother?
Oh yeah, so you can rip the throats out of them "non functional bb'ers..." that is the meaning of life it seems...
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Woah, calm down tiger!
No one said anything about bodybuilder not being functionnal at all! I'm just saying it has been proven times and times again that olympic lifting has a lot of spillover in many sports, hence why sprinters, hockey players, volleyball players etc... do it.
http://blog.nasm.org/sports-performance/scientific-rationale-incorporating-olympic-weightlifting-enhance-sports-performance/
And most oly lifter do look like they lift, not just to that extreme. I have nothing against bodybuilding but shooting 4-5 grams of testosterone a week seems extreme. And that is the point I was trying to make: I admire guys who have the guts to go to that level but it is not for me (call it a small illumination).
In any case, to each their own but your overreaction hints of insecurity...
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no offense, but gear use in powerlifting is even more extreme than in bodybuilding...
not sure about olympic lifting, but to me thats all the same lol
theyre probably also juiced to the gills, even if they dont look like it and oly lifting is much more technique than anything else
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no offense, but gear use in powerlifting is even more extreme than in bodybuilding...
not sure about olympic lifting, but to me thats all the same lol
theyre probably also juiced to the gills, even if they dont look like it and oly lifting is much more technique than anything else
This, sweet ass post here!
So oly lifters are a lot like getbiggers...Use gear but don't look the part... HA!
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Haha my friend used to make some for me.
At first the tren cough was normal, than after a while i kind of got allergic to the struff and the tren cough became more and more intense.
Until 1 shot i started coughing for 15-20 mins, my tongue was burning and so were my eyes.
Felt bad for the whole day i tought i was going to die. Never took tren ace again
Yep, I've always got cough from tren ace. Never TE. Starting back up with more ace again after running mostly TE for over a year now so will see how it goes
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no offense, but gear use in powerlifting is even more extreme than in bodybuilding...
not sure about olympic lifting, but to me thats all the same lol
theyre probably also juiced to the gills, even if they dont look like it and oly lifting is much more technique than anything else
Actually, that is exactly what I'm saying. I don't get the point of taking anything to that extreme but on the other hand, as a spectactor of sports, I wouldn't want to see ordinary performances either....
In my experience, having trained with oly lifters all my life, gear use doesn't seem as rampant because, as you've said, it is really technical. But you won't make it past most of your regional competition totally clean that is for sure, except for the genetically gifted.
Some look like shit I agree especially in the higher weight class. In the lower weight class, being as muscular as you can without having too much fat will help a lot (leverage can only add so much to your lifts).
I really didn't want to derail the thread so I'm really sorry... Is it bullshit? Maybe, but seeing the attention that guy has got in the last couple of months by being very honnest about his gear use, I think he is sincere. To me, that is retarded, balance is where life is...
I'm out :)
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U think this guy shooting 8ccs a day and popping half a gram of methylated steroids as well a day?. I know if I take 50mgs of just superdrol after just a week I can barely hold my eyes open on the drive home from work mayb I'm Just a pussy
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U think this guy shooting 8ccs a day and popping half a gram of methylated steroids as well a day?. I know if I take 50mgs of just superdrol after just a week I can barely hold my eyes open on the drive home from work mayb I'm Just a pussy
superdrol is about ten times as harsh as other methyls so thats probably how he feels^^
in all honesty 10mg superdrol is probably comparable to 50mg dbol in terms of toxicity (and effectiveness)
its not about mgs but about the compounds
take 10mg methyl tren and youre fucked after 2 weeks
take 10mg dbol and you can run that for 20 years without any issues
hes constantly scared about "getting toxic" too so hell cut the orals out if he feels like shit
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hard to believe but it all is possible too bad he won't ever b anything in the sport speaking so openly about this shit is frowned upon. Jay cutler got swole from cell tech
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I've never seen a powerlifter report more than 9g of AAS including orals.
The most extreme I've seen was:
3500mg test
700mg npp
1600mg masteron
700mg tren
200mg dbol/day
200mg anadrol/ day
He squats 4x his body weight in just knee wraps
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I've never seen a powerlifter report more than 9g of AAS including orals.
The most extreme I've seen was:
3500mg test
700mg npp
1600mg masteron
700mg tren
200mg dbol/day
200mg anadrol/ day
He squats 4x his body weight in just knee wraps
400mg of orals a day? How the hell does he eat???
Why use masteron for a powerlifter?
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400mg of orals a day? How the hell does he eat???
Why use masteron for a powerlifter?
some people claim huge strength gains from mast
i never noticed shit from it