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Title: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Ugly on January 18, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Would you ever consider it?
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: hardgainerj on January 18, 2012, 06:25:39 PM
sure why not
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: aesthetics on January 18, 2012, 06:26:19 PM
i would consider it in the case of other people and wholly support it.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 18, 2012, 06:27:32 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: SF1900 on January 18, 2012, 06:28:06 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.

We all have the right to live, why don't we have the right to die?
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Nirvana on January 18, 2012, 06:33:39 PM
 It's there if you need it.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: The Ugly on January 18, 2012, 06:35:48 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.

How is it cowardly? Seems scary as hell.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: aesthetics on January 18, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.

depends what kind of suicide and for why. those news stories of those 10 year old gay kids dropping like flies because someone called them a name in middle school was the most pathetic thing i've ever seen. nation of cowards.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: jwb on January 18, 2012, 06:41:23 PM
My father and brother in law both did it. Neither for a decent reason though.

I'm not against it though if it makes sense. We had a family friend who recently did it. He had a genetic disease that very slowly destroys your nervous system leading to death but it can takes years and years. Once he got to the point where he was in care full time and he felt he had had enough he simply stopped eating and was dead in a few weeks. Bravest thing I ever saw and from a practical standpoint saved his family a great deal of money he wanted his kids to have.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: el numero uno on January 18, 2012, 06:41:40 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.
Kind of.

A friend of mine committed suicide 1 month ago. Her sister and mother were devastated.  :-\ So yeah, it's kinda selfish but you never know how the persons feels like. I don't think he was thinking rationally for some months before he did it.

He did it because his gf wouldn't come back with him (great reason huh). I always thought he had a kinda weak character but I never thought he would do something like that. He even was a handsome fella, hot girls always tried to talk to him and be more than friends with him.  

Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: V Man on January 18, 2012, 06:41:53 PM
Only if I do not get chosen as one of GH15's elfs.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 18, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Particularly selfish when they have kids.  Must mess their minds up BIG TIME.  Often the kids are the ones to find them hanging from a rope or with their brains all over the carpet.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: The Ugly on January 18, 2012, 07:02:42 PM
I absolutely do. Sometimes I think it may be an only solution to end the darkness.

When the darkness takes control of your life and you are left with nothing in return but only lost opportunities, broken relationships and dreams and always the endless, exhausting confusion...what can you do?

Stuck in shit end jobs, sucking up to people you want to kill, angry at yourself for the direction your life is in knowing that the darkness will always lead you back to the dead end no matter how many times you try to see a better life.

When your heart and soul is full of tar there is no other option.

Life is very hard to deal with when you are truly unhappy...

Wow.

You don't see any hope at all?
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Ex Coelis on January 18, 2012, 07:07:28 PM
a sad horrifying act
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: haider on January 18, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
I absolutely do. Sometimes I think it may be an only solution to end the darkness.

When the darkness takes control of your life and you are left with nothing in return but only lost opportunities, broken relationships and dreams and always the endless, exhausting confusion...what can you do?

Stuck in shit end jobs, sucking up to people you want to kill, angry at yourself for the direction your life is in knowing that the darkness will always lead you back to the dead end no matter how many times you try to see a better life.

When your heart and soul is full of tar there is no other option.

Life is very hard to deal with when you are truly unhappy...
damn dude, have you ever sought professional help? Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: theheman on January 18, 2012, 07:12:09 PM
I really do think about suicide.  I've thought about taking a gun, shooting it in my mouth up towards the head.  I read somewhere that it's practically a painless way to die because the bullet reaches the brain really quickly.  I wouldn't do it because it'd make too many people happy and say "yeah that's what we've expect of him," that pisses me off.

Now dying w/out me doing it to myself, I welcome it.  The reason I want to die is that there are so many beautiful women and I am not going be able to have sex w/any of them.  You know how painful it is to live through life to only have sex by paying for it.  
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: haider on January 18, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
I really do think about suicide.  I've thought about taking a gun, shooting it in my mouth up towards the head.  I read somewhere that it's practically a painless way to die because the bullet reaches the brain really quickly.  I wouldn't do it because it'd make too many people happy and say "yeah that's what we've expect of him," that pisses me off.

Now dying w/out me doing it to myself, I welcome it.  The reason I want to die is that there are so many beautiful women and I am not going be able to have sex w/any of them.  You know how painful it is to live through life to only have sex by paying for it.  
are you trolling?

edit: on second thought, stupid question to ask haha
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: MikMaq on January 18, 2012, 07:14:54 PM
To anyone who has never seriously considered suicide kill yourself now. I was thinking about it for a couple of years had a sleep disorder, no other way around it. Luckly I got it fixed, but otherwise I most likely would of drowned myself in a canoe.

P.S. if you get on with all this crap about being selfish, you have no fucking clue what it actually means to want to kill yourself. Also just because it's a suicide don't mean you gotta go about it like a whinny bitch. Rent a canoe, drink as much beer as you can and tip the thing. Where I grew up it happened all the time, everyone just assumes their idiots reality is there far more clever than most realize.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Bam-bam on January 18, 2012, 07:16:39 PM
never, but then again im not sick in the head
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: haider on January 18, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
Yes, many times. But the darkness and tar is to thick, to stuck on my soul. It has become one with me. It's almost a friend.

My daughter is my ONLY motivation, but even I have my limits...
Well, I hope you don't consider it and find some peace within yourself. You're not alone in your struggle, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Hiitsmichael on January 18, 2012, 07:26:35 PM
I'm 18 and tried it, I took half a bottle of sleeping pills and it was the scariest thing that I could imagine. It haunts me everyday just because of the reaction it got out of my family girlfriend and close friends, for any of you out there considering suicide I was there and its not easy, I thought no one would care but the impact you have is far greater than you'll ever know. If you haven't sought professional help or tried antidepressants I reccommend this route, it helps despite what you may think or have heard.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on January 18, 2012, 07:32:14 PM
It's there if you need it.

I hate to say it, but this ^

however, i IMPLORE anyone (esp. younger people) considering suicide to talk to someone chances are whatever youre going through isnt is serious as you think.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
Severe depression is a bitch is all I`ll say on the subject.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 18, 2012, 07:33:34 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.

Even if so, so what?
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on January 18, 2012, 07:34:51 PM
Severe depression is a bitch is all I`ll say on the subject.

but treatable
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 07:38:42 PM
You'd be surprised to learn that most folks who consider suicide only think they want to die. When actually faced with death the will to live is usually very strong.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: el numero uno on January 18, 2012, 07:43:29 PM
I'm 18 and tried it, I took half a bottle of sleeping pills and it was the scariest thing that I could imagine. It haunts me everyday just because of the reaction it got out of my family girlfriend and close friends, for any of you out there considering suicide I was there and its not easy, I thought no one would care but the impact you have is far greater than you'll ever know. If you haven't sought professional help or tried antidepressants I reccommend this route, it helps despite what you may think or have heard.

My friend took some chemical stuff that is used to make fireworks  :-\. He called his mother and it looks like he was pretty scared in his last moments (He lost his sight the last hours as far as I know). He agreed to go to the hospital after taking that stuff, maybe he repented of what he did? Anyway, it was too late.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 07:45:02 PM
Severe depression is a bitch is all I`ll say on the subject.
in other words........." MAJOR DEPRESSION ". Alot of people claim to have " REAL SEVERE DEPRESSION " or claim to be " bipolar " yet, they say they dont take medication, which may be a personal choice not too BUT in my opinion, the only way you can truly have SEVERE DEPRESSION is if you have " MAJOR DEPRESSION " which is an Extreme deep depression, that you cant just Snap out of.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: theheman on January 18, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
are you trolling?

I'm not fucking around.  I'm serious.  I find myself thinking, "Am I that much of a fucking loser thinking like that?"  Shit man.  I'm thinking about going to another pick up bootcamp by a guy named Magic.  He gurantees that I'd get laid during the bootcamp.  I know somewhere the money's gonna' come and I'll be able to make a down payment.  Finally he'll show me how to seduce a woman.  Then I won't have thoughts of wanting to die because of sexual frustration.  
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: apply85 on January 18, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
My friend took some chemical stuff that is used to make fireworks  :-\. He called his mother and it looks like he was pretty scared in his last moments (He lost his sight the last hours as far as I know). He agreed to go to the hospital after taking that stuff, maybe he repented of what he did? Anyway, it was too late.

this is pretty much the most traumatizing thing i ever read, consider my dreams haunted
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
Would you ever consider it?
Dont do it. I have a number of differant Mental health issues, including MAJOR DEPRESSION, which is the worst Depression one can have IMO............and im still alive and breathing.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on January 18, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
Dont do it. I have a number of differant Mental health issues, including MAJOR DEPRESSION, which is the worst Depression one can have IMO............and im still alive and breathing.

plus, youre Irish. thats a double whammy
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
plus, youre Irish. thats a double whammy
LOL! yup. ;D
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Hiitsmichael on January 18, 2012, 07:49:53 PM
My friend took some chemical stuff that is used to make fireworks  :-\. He called his mother and it looks like he was pretty scared in his last moments (He lost his sight the last hours as far as I know). He agreed to go to the hospital after taking that stuff, maybe he repented of what he did? Anyway, it was too late.
That's horrible, fortunately I mentioned something to my girlfriend and with her help she convinced me to get help, I don't remember much of what happened the day and day after it happened, just short little images. I just don't want anyone to have to go through that.  Its horrific once your actually faces with it, especially if you care about anyone or anything and font have specific goals accomplished
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: el numero uno on January 18, 2012, 07:56:53 PM
That's horrible, fortunately I mentioned something to my girlfriend and with her help she convinced me to get help, I don't remember much of what happened the day and day after it happened, just short little images. I just don't want anyone to have to go through that.  Its horrific once your actually faces with it, especially if you care about anyone or anything and font have specific goals accomplished

I think most of the times deppresion doesn't let you think clearly.  :-\
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
in other words........." MAJOR DEPRESSION ". Alot of people claim to have " REAL SEVERE DEPRESSION " or claim to be " bipolar " yet, they say they dont take medication, which may be a personal choice not too BUT in my opinion, the only way you can truly have SEVERE DEPRESSION is if you have " MAJOR DEPRESSION " which is an Extreme deep depression, that you cant just Snap out of.
That`s what I meant,and that`s what I`m diagnosed with along with extreme anxiety disorder.

Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Hiitsmichael on January 18, 2012, 07:59:24 PM
I think most of the times deppresion doesn't let you think clearly.  :-\
No unfortunately it consumes you
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
but treatable
Thank God,but some people are so medicated that they almost lose all feelings.....good and bad like fucking zombies.

Gotta` get on the right meds.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
That`s what I meant,and that`s what I`m diagnosed with along with extreme anxiety disorder.
Sorry for the confusion.
Which one? I have Ocd, Panic disorder, Agoraphobia, Social Anxiety........
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: reppingfor20 on January 18, 2012, 08:08:03 PM
Suicide is a selfish cowardly act.

written by a christian who believes in fairy tales.

Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 08:11:54 PM
written by a christian who believes in fairy tales.


Wasnt " Suicide " banned back in like the 1300s by Christians because there was a some cult that believed suicide was the only way they can be Free from the world or some shit..........i have no idea.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 18, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
consider it everyday but just never get around to it, usually too busy with work, family ect.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 08:18:04 PM
Which one? I have Ocd, Panic disorder, Agoraphobia, Social Anxiety........
OCD to an extent,but panic disorder is most prevelant.

Self medicated with booze and drugs for 33 years off and on in a futile effort to try to escape my depression.............. anxiety wasn`t bad early on,but got worse as I got older.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 18, 2012, 08:22:17 PM
My friend took some chemical stuff that is used to make fireworks  :-\. He called his mother and it looks like he was pretty scared in his last moments (He lost his sight the last hours as far as I know). He agreed to go to the hospital after taking that stuff, maybe he repented of what he did? Anyway, it was too late.

Jesus H Christ..  :-\
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 18, 2012, 08:36:13 PM
I don't think enough people consider it.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
OCD to an extent,but panic disorder is most prevelant.

Self medicated with booze and drugs for 33 years off and on in a futile effort to try to escape my depression.............. anxiety wasn`t bad early on,but got worse as I got older.
Panic disorder is a bitch, Too me...........its like you have anxiety/panic attacks for Absolutely No reason at all. I know now that having Agoraphobia is pretty much why i have panic disorder though, and i have a genetic predisposition of Panic Disorder from my dad.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 08:45:09 PM
Panic disorder is a bitch, Too me...........its like you have anxiety/panic attacks for Absolutely No reason at all. I know now that having Agoraphobia is pretty much why i have panic disorder though, and i have a genetic predisposition of Panic Disorder from my dad.
If I know I have an appointment somewhere a week in advance or so,I stress out completely all week about it...............feeling very uncomfortable in my own skin.

Not even a big deal but my anxiety makes it one for me.

Once I get to the appointment,I`m fine.

Just an example of one scenario.

Depression is a whole other animal though.........really tough to deal with at times  but I`m so fucking used to coping with it that it feels almost normal for me sadly enough.

If you ever need to vent,shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 08:58:36 PM
If I know I have an appointment somewhere a week in advance or so,I stress out completely all week about it...............feeling very uncomfortable in my own skin.

Not even a big deal but my anxiety makes it one for me.

Once I get to the appointment,I`m fine.

Just an example of one scenario.

Depression is a whole other animal though.........really tough to deal with at times  but I`m so fucking used to coping with it that it feels almost normal for me sadly enough.

If you ever need to vent,shoot me a PM.
ANTICIPATORY ANXIETY..........I know exactly how that is. My AA has gotten SOO much better though with medication.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
ANTICIPATORY ANXIETY..........I know exactly how that is. My AA has gotten SOO much better though with medication.
Mine  is manageable too,for the most part.

Good luck bro!!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: BiGHer on January 18, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
Suicide is selfish, cowardly, and easy.  It's not that you have the right to live, you were born so you either live or die and as 50 Cent said "Death gotta be easy cuz life is hard."

Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 09:08:17 PM
You'd be surprised to learn that most folks who consider suicide only think they want to die. When actually faced with death the will to live is usually very strong.
You might want to remind the, countless people, who have offed themselves in the last 100 years worldwide.
They seem to have lost focus with that little reality trip.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 09:08:29 PM
That`s what I meant,and that`s what I`m diagnosed with along with extreme anxiety disorder.

Sorry for the confusion.

Sorry to read that you have these issues with depression and anxiety. I can only imagine how hard that is for someone to live with on a day to day basis. I've experienced short periods of explainable depression and less occasionally, anxiety, for which I sought help. To have to deal with these feelings everyday would be awful. In my limited experience, I believe meds can be a real help.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 18, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
Suicide is selfish, cowardly, and easy.  It's not that you have the right to live, you were born so you either live or die and as 50 Cent said "Death gotta be easy cuz life is hard."


........itll leave you physically mentally and emotionally scarred ".........
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:13:10 PM
Sorry to read that you have these issues with depression and anxiety. I can only imagine how hard that is for someone to live with on a day to day basis. I've experienced short periods of explainable depression and less occasionally, anxiety, for which I sought help. To have to deal with these feelings everyday would be awful. In my limited experience, I believe meds can be a real help.
Thank you,I have had depression issues most of my life.....to be honest,sadly enough,I`m kind of used to it.

It does ebb and flow though,thank god.........but when it does rear it`s ugly head,it`s a bitch.

Thanks again bud!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
You might want to remind the, countless people, who have offed themselves in the last 100 years worldwide.
They seem to have lost focus with that little reality trip.

PT

Right. Well unfortunately, people are often successful in their attempt to kill themselves. Still, it can be a "cry for help" which sometimes comes too late to do any good.

My mom tried to off herself so many times, we all lost count (and pretty much lost interest too). When she was dying from emphysema as a result of years of smoking several packs of cigarettes a day, she fought like crazy to stay alive and managed to do so for several years passed what her doctors predicted.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 09:17:58 PM
Thank you,I have had depression issues most of my life.....to be honest,sadly enough,I`m kind of used to it.

It does ebb and flow though,thank god.........but when it does rear it`s ugly head,it`s a bitch.

Thanks again bud!  :)
Any-one who says that they have NEVER, suffered from depression, is a fucking fraud.
I don't care who you are, or how good you got it, nothing keeps us happy. It is an affliction that we are born with, being human.
The human condition, no words can truly capture it.


PT
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: apply85 on January 18, 2012, 09:19:45 PM
life is a bunch of good days and bad days. you try to get yourself some power to insulate urself, u try to have leverage in every situation in minimize anxiety, but life is not like the movies, some people really think it is, no life is a struggle no matter what
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:20:42 PM
Any-one who says that they have NEVER, suffered from depression, is a fucking fraud.
I don't care who you are, or how good you got it, nothing keeps us happy it is an affliction that we are born with, being human.
The human condition, no words can truly capture it.


PT

I agree bro........my mother in law always asks me why I get depressed, and says she has never been depressed before.

Lying old bitch!!  ;D

It affects everyone of us at one time or another,some more than others.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 09:21:47 PM
Right. Well unfortunately, people are often successful in their attempt to kill themselves. Still, it can be a "cry for help" which sometimes comes too late to do any good.

My mom tried to off herself so many times, we all lost count (and pretty much lost interest too). When she was dying from emphysema as a result of years of smoking several packs of cigarettes a day, she fought like crazy to stay alive and managed to do so for several years passed what her doctors predicted.
Fucking irony for you.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: tbombz on January 18, 2012, 09:23:14 PM
i would encourage people to withhold judgement.  whether its good or bad, whether its selfish or not. were all going to die someday. some figure rather sooner than later. theres a famous quote, 'dont mourn for those who are dead, mourn for those who are living". not sure if its true but benjamin franklin, socratese, gahndi, and mlk jr are all dead so i consider anyone else dead to be in very good company.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
I`ve got a cousin who gets depressed over the smallest stupidest things......to me,they are molehills,to him,they are mountains, and not small or stupid at all.

We all tolerate different things in different manners,some better than others.

Things that affect one person adversley,may be easily coped with by another.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Stavios on January 18, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
don't give a shit about it

if people want to kill themself, more power to them.
Who am I to judge
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:25:14 PM
i would encourage people to withhold judgement.  whether its good or bad, whether its selfish or not. were all going to die someday. some figure rather sooner than later. theres a famous quote, 'dont mourn for those who are dead, mourn for those who are living". not sure if its true but benjamin franklin, socratese, gahndi, and mlk jr are all dead so i consider anyone else dead to be in very good company.
Good post Tbomz.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 09:29:04 PM
Good post cut & paste Tbomz.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:31:11 PM
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
I would NEVER consider it.  If there are people who love you out there, or care about you, doing something like that is pathetic, selfish and fucks up many people, more than they ever think.  You always have good days and bad days.  It sucks.  And unfortunately, it affects a lot of people.  Especially when they hurt more than themselves.

Don't forget about Dave Jacobs, who killed a beautiful girl and someone people cared about because he couldnt deal with shit, and then killed himself.

A few months ago, an ex-coworker of mine, who worked with me for 4 years a long time ago, killed himself.  Hanged. WTF?  My age.  The guy had two kids, a young daughter, age 5.  WTF was he thinking? Because he was going through a divorce. Because his ex was driving him crazy? Never one did he stop to think about his kids, and how much they loved him, and how they will have to live with this ever day on what he did.   Bobb Giacobbe was his name.  One of our first sales rep.  Was things that bad in life?

And then there was Figure Olympia Jennifer Gates, who was separated and getting a divorce from her husband, who also killed himself too.  WTF? They had a daughter too.  Pure selfish acts.  Jennifer has since remarried and the son and daughter in a loving family home.


So if you know someone who is even contemplating it, urge them get talk it out, to anyone - because often, they are in a state of depression that is very hard to get out of at that moment.




Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:38:47 PM
Good post Ron.......sad stuff, but some people just find things unbearable at times.

You are 100% right in the fact that they should think of their loved ones,but sadly enough,they probably don`t when in the throes of deep depression.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 18, 2012, 09:39:20 PM
I don't think enough people consider it.

Bahaha!  :D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stavios on January 18, 2012, 09:40:44 PM
I would NEVER consider it.  If there are people who love you out there, or care about you, doing something like that is pathetic, selfish and fucks up many people, more than they ever think.  You always have good days and bad days.  It sucks.  And unfortunately, it affects a lot of people.  Especially when they hurt more than themselves.

Don't forget about Dave Jacobs, who killed a beautiful girl and someone people cared about because he couldnt deal with shit, and then killed himself.

A few months ago, an ex-coworker of mine, who worked with me for 4 years a long time ago, killed himself.  Hanged. WTF?  My age.  The guy had two kids, a young daughter, age 5.  WTF was he thinking? Because he was going through a divorce. Because his ex was driving him crazy? Never one did he stop to think about his kids, and how much they loved him, and how they will have to live with this ever day on what he did.   Bobb Giacobbe was his name.  One of our first sales rep.  Was things that bad in life?

And then there was Figure Olympia Jennifer Gates, who was separated and getting a divorce from her husband, who also killed himself too.  WTF? They had a daughter too.  Pure selfish acts.  Jennifer has since remarried and the son and daughter in a loving family home.


So if you know someone who is even contemplating it, urge them get talk it out, to anyone - because often, they are in a state of depression that is very hard to get out of at that moment.






how can you judge that.

it's up to everybody to decide what they want to do with their life.

lets say, his ULTIMATE goal in life, was to have a great family.
boom his ex divorces him, fucks up what's the most important thing to him

dude feels like he fucked his life up, decides he doesn't want to live anymore.


sad for the kids but that's his decision, it's better to just let it go and die than to endure a life you don't want anymore and end up doing crazy shit like killing your children, ex-wife or whatever
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Fucking irony for you.

PT

Here is the real irony. My mother lived with my family and me for the last three years of her life. This was the same person who inspired me to move out and live on my own at sixteen because life with her and my stepdad was intolerable. Not that I didn't love her, you understand. As she used to tell me, "You may not like me, but I am the only mother you'll ever have." She was a real trip!

Believe it or not, I still miss her and she's been dead now for almost 30 years.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: chess315 on January 18, 2012, 09:45:05 PM
i say if your gonna do it go out in a blaze of glory not by hooking you garden hose to an exhaust pipe of your car that way we can at least make a thread about it and your life wouldnt have been in vain.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 09:48:51 PM
I`ve got a cousin who gets depressed over the smallest stupidest things......to me,they are molehills,to him,they are mountains, and not small or stupid at all.

We all tolerate different things in different manners,some better than others.

Things that affect one person adversley,may be easily coped with by another.

Exactly. Some people believe their life is shit or at least a lot worse than everyone else's is.

On rare occasion I get "down" but most of the time, life is a charm for me (despite what some folks suggest here). Surely a lot of this has to do with my attitude. I always try to be a positive thinker. On those rare occasions when things aren't going well, it is actually a surprise to me and totally unexpected.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
Exactly. Some people believe their life is shit or at least a lot worse than everyone else's is.

On rare occasion I get "down" but most of the time, life is a charm for me (despite what some folks suggest here). Surely a lot of this has to do with my attitude. I always try to be a positive thinker. On those rare occasions when things aren't going well, it is actually a surprise to me and totally unexpected.
I always envied people who seem content and happy most of the time.

The nerve of some people to actually enjoy their lives!!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 18, 2012, 09:53:51 PM
I have never used drugs, how can people get addicted?

Equals

I have never considered suicide, how can people think about such things?
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: dustin on January 18, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
ANTICIPATORY ANXIETY..........I know exactly how that is. My AA has gotten SOO much better though with medication.

Omg, there's a name for it! I have nightmares about being late for work. I used to have panic attacks when I work in the evening too. It's a lot better now.

I've felt suicidal all my life. Now it's mostly something that comes and goes. I just bought a house, have a secure and well paying job (but it's stressful as fuck). I tried meds that made me numb but more suicidal so I started mediating and reading lots about philosophy which helped.

It's hard to forget about the long run when the depression consumes you. Tren can sometimes make me feel suicidal. And I have chronic migraines that cripple me and no one is compassionate or believes how much pain I'm in. I hide the pain because I hate how people treat me knowing that I claim to have a neurological disease but not fucking believing me. Not looking for sympathy but just want people to realize I'm not superman just because I'm always so positive and always there for people. I wish they didn't think so highly of me because it's stressful.

I just took out a new life insurance policy so my wife can pay the mortgage and tuition if and when I kill myself. I'm a happy guy otherwise but I had a sick and twisted childhood (nothing happened like rape or anything) so I was scarred at a young age. I've been staying to drink and take my wife's narcotics because my migraine prescription is over a thousand bucks a month which I can't afford or tolerate paying. She has a sick pile from her car accident that really stressed me the fuck out. Double the responsibly because of her injury and the settlement took 4 years. An ex friend wanted to testify against my wife to fuck us over so we had to settle for shut. Spent dozens of thousands on her rehab and worked overtime and took care of her without complaining. I massage her foot a couple hours everyday and help rehab her back. It's tough.

My only concern is hurting my family. My wife is great buy she doesn't understand my disease and drives me insane sometimes. I was thinking of doing some things to set them up for life monetarily before I do anything. I'm feeling good now but when my demons come out I crumble.

Ironic thing is that I've mentored people and have done suicide prevention volunteer work. I've coached lots of people in my position but the migraines suck the life out of me and make me miserable. I can have them for days on end and it's literally torture.

 lol didn't mean to rant too much but I've prepared letters for my family in my head a million times over and now I recite things I'd want to share with you guys for if and when I decide to take that path. Thought I'd share it now just in case I go insane and hit that point of no return.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:58:26 PM
Omg, there's a name for it! I have nightmares about being late for work. I used to have panic attacks when I work in the evening too. It's a lot better now.

I've felt suicidal all my life. Now it's mostly something that comes and goes. I just bought a house, have a secure and well paying job (but it's stressful as fuck). I tried meds that made me numb but more suicidal so I started mediating and reading lots about philosophy which helped.

It's hard to forget about the long run when the depression consumes you. Tren can sometimes make me feel suicidal. And I have chronic migraines that cripple me and no one is compassionate or believes how much pain I'm in. I hide the pain because I hate how people treat me knowing that I claim to have a neurological disease but not fucking believing me. Not looking for sympathy but just want people to realize I'm not superman just because I'm always so positive and always there for people. I wish they didn't think so highly of me because it's stressful.

I just took out a new life insurance policy so my wife can pay the mortgage and tuition if and when I kill myself. I'm a happy guy otherwise but I had a sick and twisted childhood (nothing happened like rape or anything) so I was scarred at a young age. I've been staying to drink and take my wife's narcotics because my migraine prescription is over a thousand bucks a month which I can't afford or tolerate paying. She has a sick pile from her car accident that really stressed me the fuck out. Double the responsibly because of her injury and the settlement took 4 years. An ex friend wanted to testify against my wife to fuck us over so we had to settle for shut. Spent dozens of thousands on her rehab and worked overtime and took care of her without complaining. I massage her foot a couple hours everyday and help rehab her back. It's tough.

My only concern is hurting my family. My wife is great buy she doesn't understand my disease and drives me insane sometimes. I was thinking of doing some things to set them up for life monetarily before I do anything. I'm feeling good now but when my demons come out I crumble.

Ironic thing is that I've mentored people and have done suicide prevention volunteer work. I've coached lots of people in my position but the migraines suck the life out of me and make me miserable. I can have them for days on end and it's literally torture.

 lol didn't mean to rant too much but I've prepared letters for my family in my head a million times over and now I recite things I'd want to share with you guys for if and when I decide to take that path. Thought I'd share it now just in case I go insane and hit that point of no return.
We must be related holmes!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 09:59:01 PM
STAY STRONG BTW............better days will come some fucking day!!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
I always envied people who seem content and happy most of the time.

The nerve of some people to actually enjoy their lives!!  ;D

Some say "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger."  According to my family, I had a really fucked up childhood. The first 8 years of my life, I lived with just about every relative who would have me and a few hired caregivers. Can you believe it actually shocked me to hear from a cousin when I was an adult that everyone thought of me as a "poor abandoned orphan child." I remember my early childhood experiences as being rich with experience. After all, I lived all over the world, learned to speak French and German, traveled overseas on the SS ile de France where I ate at the captain's table with my grandmother and was spoiled with gifts all the time.

It irks me when folks complain about their dysfunctional childhoods. Sure some people did have it rough growing up....but not everyone who thinks they did.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on January 18, 2012, 10:09:02 PM
STAY STRONG BTW............better days will come some fucking day!!  :)
i hope your right.i have moments where all the light that was there was long behind me.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: ryanm5593 on January 18, 2012, 10:11:01 PM
No.  There is always hope. Lack of hope is the greatest sin. Never lose hope. Watch LOTG.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2012, 10:13:22 PM
how can you judge that.  it's up to everybody to decide what they want to do with their life. lets say, his ULTIMATE goal in life, was to have a great family.
boom his ex divorces him, fucks up what's the most important thing to him.  dude feels like he fucked his life up, decides he doesn't want to live anymore. sad for the kids but that's his decision, it's better to just let it go and die than to endure a life you don't want anymore and end up doing crazy shit like killing your children, ex-wife or whatever

Still pathetic and fucked up.  So his ex-wife divorces him... Dude feels like he fucked his life up.  He may not want to live this day or week, but things can get better.  50% of people get divorced. People loses their jobs, houses, savings.  And you know what - for many of them, they get remarried, they find something else to enjoy, they work back up.

This isnt a 80 year old person who is terminal with cancer, etc.  He is selfish.  Sad for the kids?  Seriously? Screw the kids up because he wants to kill himself.  Bottom line, it is fucked, and they need help.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: tbombz on January 18, 2012, 10:14:54 PM
Still pathetic and fucked up.  So his ex-wife divorces him... Dude feels like he fucked his life up.  He may not want to live this day or week, but things can get better.  50% of people get divorced. People loses their jobs, houses, savings.  And you know what - for many of them, they get remarried, they find something else to enjoy, they work back up.

This isnt a 80 year old person who is terminal with cancer, etc.  He is selfish.  Sad for the kids?  Seriously? Screw the kids up because he wants to kill himself.  Bottom line, it is fucked,


and they need help.

^ just stick with that sentiment and forget the rest of it.

thank me later.   ;)
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 10:20:49 PM
I agree bro........my mother in law always asks me why I get depressed, and says she has never been depressed before.

Lying old bitch!!  ;D

It affects everyone of us at one time or another,some more than others.
I have met people who say they have NEVR been depressed "life is a blessing that we should honor daily" - I just think - "are you fooling your-slef with that shit, as you are not fooling any-one over 8 years old with that bollx". People  ::)

PT
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 18, 2012, 10:21:50 PM
To anyone who has never seriously considered suicide kill yourself now. I was thinking about it for a couple of years had a sleep disorder, no other way around it. Luckly I got it fixed, but otherwise I most likely would of drowned myself in a canoe.

P.S. if you get on with all this crap about being selfish, you have no fucking clue what it actually means to want to kill yourself. Also just because it's a suicide don't mean you gotta go about it like a whinny bitch. Rent a canoe, drink as much beer as you can and tip the thing. Where I grew up it happened all the time, everyone just assumes their idiots reality is there far more clever than most realize.

Well, dear, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.  I have lived through more shit than most people will ever know or can even begin to understand.  And yes I have thought about it over the years.

AND IT IS STILL A COWARDLY AND SELFISH ACT.

So go fuck a sheep or something.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: aesthetics on January 18, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
i often contemplate suicide at the prospects of losing my hair. damn, i can't live in a world where i'm bald.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 18, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
written by a christian who believes in fairy tales.



Written by a fool.

Read my post above and STFU.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 10:24:16 PM
i hope your right.i have moments where all the light that was there was long behind me.


It is always darkest before the dawn. Hang in there when lights feel like they've gone out....just a momentary power outage. The light will return.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: io856 on January 18, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
i often contemplate suicide at the prospects of losing my hair. damn, i can't live in a world where i'm bald.
you got some issues man

since its most likely inevitable in your case... perhaps work on viewing it as an extension of your masculinity
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: aesthetics on January 18, 2012, 10:29:38 PM
naw, it grows back when i'm off gear because my test production is so bad, but 300mg of test-prop and my hair is falling out, lol. what horrible genetics to have.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
I would NEVER consider it.  If there are people who love you out there, or care about you, doing something like that is pathetic, selfish and fucks up many people, more than they ever think.  You always have good days and bad days.  It sucks.  And unfortunately, it affects a lot of people.  Especially when they hurt more than themselves.

Don't forget about Dave Jacobs, who killed a beautiful girl and someone people cared about because he couldnt deal with shit, and then killed himself.

A few months ago, an ex-coworker of mine, who worked with me for 4 years a long time ago, killed himself.  Hanged. WTF?  My age.  The guy had two kids, a young daughter, age 5.  WTF was he thinking? Because he was going through a divorce. Because his ex was driving him crazy? Never one did he stop to think about his kids, and how much they loved him, and how they will have to live with this ever day on what he did.   Bobb Giacobbe was his name.  One of our first sales rep.  Was things that bad in life?

And then there was Figure Olympia Jennifer Gates, who was separated and getting a divorce from her husband, who also killed himself too.  WTF? They had a daughter too.  Pure selfish acts.  Jennifer has since remarried and the son and daughter in a loving family home.


So if you know someone who is even contemplating it, urge them get talk it out, to anyone - because often, they are in a state of depression that is very hard to get out of at that moment.

Not often I see the Ronistrator, in a thread.
Had a double take moment there when I went back to check page x3.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: io856 on January 18, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
naw, it grows back when i'm off gear because my test production is so bad, but 300mg of test-prop and my hair is falling out, lol. what horrible genetics to have.
what if you eliminate test from your cycles?
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 18, 2012, 10:32:00 PM
If your life isn't worth living, MAKE IT WORTH LIVING.  Let you time here be something that leaves a mark of honour and dignity.  Stop thinking about what great things you can't do, and toughen the fuck up and start doing some good things for yourself, however modest thay may be,, and God forbid... do something good FOR OTHERS, help the old lady, give the hungry man some food.  
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: aesthetics on January 18, 2012, 10:32:25 PM
falls out from everything, even using finasteride with test, it some how makes it worse.

200mg of tren a week and barely any hairloss though, and i can even regrow some sections of my hair :)  
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 10:37:41 PM

I just took out a new life insurance policy so my wife can pay the mortgage and tuition if and when I kill myself.

....My only concern is hurting my family.

....I was thinking of doing some things to set them up for life....

....I've prepared letters for my family in my head a million times over and now I recite things I'd want to share with you guys for if and when I decide to take that path. Thought I'd share it now just in case I go insane and hit that point of no return.

Suicide voids life insurance. You don't want to leave your family flat.

Obviously you don't want to hurt your family and you will if you take your own life.

If you want to set them up for life, be there for them.

If your being serious here, get professional help. You're asking for it from people who really can't provide it to you.

I am no expert, but you seem to be expecting too much of yourself. No one is perfect. Your family loves you just as you are.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 10:39:45 PM
Still pathetic and fucked up.  So his ex-wife divorces him... Dude feels like he fucked his life up.  He may not want to live this day or week, but things can get better.  50% of people get divorced. People loses their jobs, houses, savings.  And you know what - for many of them, they get remarried, they find something else to enjoy, they work back up.

This isnt a 80 year old person who is terminal with cancer, etc.  He is selfish.  Sad for the kids?  Seriously? Screw the kids up because he wants to kill himself.  Bottom line, it is fucked, and they need help.
I don't think you will ever understand suicide until you live in India.
People drop like flies here from suicide, the trains in Mumbai, is a common way to do it. Life for the untermenschen, can get pretty grim here.


Mumbai: Bodies being wheeled out from railway platforms has become a common feature on Mumbai's suburban railway station.

A Right To Information (RTI) query has recently revealed that 20,000 people died on Mumbai railway tracks in the past five years.

That means over 4000 people per year and, on an average, 10 people per day.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: io856 on January 18, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
I don't think you will ever understand suicide until you live in India.
People drop like flies here from suicide, the trains in Mumbai, is a common way to do it. Life for the untermenschen, can get pretty grim here.


Mumbai: Bodies being wheeled out from railway platforms has become a common feature on Mumbai's suburban railway station.

A Right To Information (RTI) query has recently revealed that 20,000 people died on Mumbai railway tracks in the past five years.

That means over 4000 people per year and, on an average, 10 people per day.

PT

holy shit  :o
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 10:46:31 PM
I don't think you will ever understand suicide until you live in India.
People drop like flies here from suicide, the trains in Mumbai, is a common way to do it. Life for the untermenschen, can get pretty grim here.


Mumbai: Bodies being wheeled out from railway platforms has become a common feature on Mumbai's suburban railway station.

A Right To Information (RTI) query has recently revealed that 20,000 people died on Mumbai railway tracks in the past five years.


That means over 4000 people per year and, on an average, 10 people per day.

PT


What percentage of those are suicides, accidents and homicide? Surely you aren't suggesting all of them are incidences of suicide.

Glad I don't live where you do. It doesn't sound like a paradise.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 10:48:56 PM
i often contemplate suicide at the prospects of losing my hair. damn, i can't live in a world where i'm bald.

Who knows, you may actually look like an adult.  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 10:53:38 PM
holy shit  :o
They are not all suicied. Although, they do like to keep shtum, about the number who are.
The other most common is falling off a train, the doors are always open (between stations) & they are so packed at 'rush hour' that people are hanging out of them.
I was right near to a guy last year that was screaming "I am slipping, I am slipping" (the hand grips are greasy as fuck & covered in sweat).
He didn't make the next station.That is the risk you take here, get in a packed train & you might not get home
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2012, 11:05:03 PM
They are not all suicied. Although, they do like to keep shtum, about the number who are.
The other most common is falling off a train, the doors are always open (between stations) & they are so packed at 'rush hour' that people are hanging out of them.
I was right near to a guy last year that was screaming "I am slipping, I am slipping" (the hand grips are greasy as fuck & covered in sweat).
He didn't make the next station.That is the risk you take here, get in a packed train & you might not get home

Makes Portland's mass transit, the Max seem like first class commuting.

Recently, a 14 year old girl was beat on by three other girls while riding the Max. The saddest part of that event was that no one stepped in to help her. Instead, someone actually took a video of it on their phone and posted it on Youtube. Of course it went viral! Human nature sucks, doesn't it?

Anyway, no one is hanging out the doors which are closed before the train moves on the Max.

Personally, I don't use public transportation. Years ago, when I worked downtown, if I didn't drive and pay an arm and a leg to park my car, I rode my bicycle. Anything to avoid taking the bus.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
What percentage of those are suicides, accidents and homicide? Surely you aren't suggesting all of them are incidences of suicide.

Glad I don't live where you do. It doesn't sound like a paradise.

Paradise  ??? Where do you live, in a Hallmark greeting card??
It is REAL here. I do not have to take the train (as I live right by the office) but Millions do take itevery day x2 a day, in rush hour.
I will get on the trains at rush hour as it is the fastest way to get to the South of the island, forget the car past 5pm.
But I can fight my way to safety, I swim through the throng using my elbows & plenty of "चलना mudder-fucker"

The number of suicide by train is at least half that number & before you google it, they do not like to talk about here. So accurate figures will only come from people who live here.

PT


Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 11:22:51 PM
Here is one having a go.


PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 18, 2012, 11:31:50 PM
This guy chooses the high voltage cable & gets the good news.

BAM  :o

BAM  :o


He gets a double dose for good measure.

I am not sure how the worlds fastest death can be that horrible though, that's jewtube for ya  ::)

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 12:03:13 AM
My light at the end of the tunnell is an oncoming train!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 19, 2012, 12:15:39 AM
My light at the end of the tunnell is an oncoming train!  ;D
Opening veins & talking pills, is the pussy way to go.
Standing in front of something that weighs in excess of 10 tonnes, that is also moving in excess of 80kph.
That is a warriors death.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 12:21:35 AM
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: diamondcut on January 19, 2012, 12:23:23 AM
man this thread is depressing as fuck
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 12:24:46 AM
man this thread is depressing as fuck
No shit,I`m gonna` go double up on my meds.  :)
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: basil on January 19, 2012, 12:34:16 AM
To anyone who has never seriously considered suicide kill yourself now. I was thinking about it for a couple of years had a sleep disorder, no other way around it. Luckly I got it fixed, but otherwise I most likely would of drowned myself in a canoe.

P.S. if you get on with all this crap about being selfish, you have no fucking clue what it actually means to want to kill yourself. Also just because it's a suicide don't mean you gotta go about it like a whinny bitch. Rent a canoe, drink as much beer as you can and tip the thing. Where I grew up it happened all the time, everyone just assumes their idiots reality is there far more clever than most realize.

u clever injuns.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tito24 on January 19, 2012, 12:34:32 AM
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 19, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
Opening veins & talking pills, is the pussy way to go.
Standing in front of something that weighs in excess of 10 tonnes, that is also moving in excess of 80kph.
That is a warriors death.

PT


Interesting way to think.

My mom always said she wanted a dramatic death, like a plane crash or more likely for her a car crash, since she drove really fast when she was loaded. Fate dealt her a different hand though. There is nothing quick or dramatic about dying from emphysema. It is more like you are slowly drowning for everyday for years.

Personally, I don't believe there is anything warrior like about committing suicide no matter how you choose to die.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BigCyp on January 19, 2012, 02:21:50 AM
I am disgusted by the amount of empathy, and understanding that has been displayed in this thread.

This is the Thunderdome bitches!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on January 19, 2012, 03:13:02 AM
I wouldn't consider it, theres always something better out there no matter how shit things are going in your life. Theres always someone out there you could meet and love, always moving to thailand and living near the beach and eating cheap good food and fucking nice girls.
I do watch documenterys on stuff like crystal meth and stuff and see how bad those people have ade their lives so maybe people fucked on drugs think different but like I didnt get handed anything in life and enjoyed the challenge of making soething of myself, be that financvially or physique wise. Plus I cant wait to have children and give them a good life and tons of love
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 19, 2012, 03:55:41 AM
Personally, I don't believe there is anything warrior like about committing suicide no matterhow you choose to die.
You take it on your terms standing on your feet. Simple.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on January 19, 2012, 03:58:35 AM
Majority of suicides are due to depression. Real depression is something you can't 'think' yourself out of. It's a disease that needs first diagnosed and then treated with both SSRI's and aggressive psychotherapy. SSRI's alone generally don't cut it, and by themselves, make exacerbate suicidal tendencies

Studies on the cadavers of suicide victims have shown their brains to be physically different from that of a normal functioning brain.

Some ignorant people in this thread, as usual, passing judgement without know the first thing about suicide and/or depression.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tito24 on January 19, 2012, 04:01:24 AM
Majority of suicides are due to depression. Real depression is something you can't 'think' yourself out of. It's a disease that needs first diagnosed and then treated with both SSRI's and aggressive psychotherapy. SSRI's alone generally don't cut it, and by themselves, make exacerbate suicidal tendencies

Studies on the cadavers of suicide victims have shown their brains to be physically different from that of a normal functioning brain.

Some ignorant people in this thread, as usual, passing judgement without know the first thing about suicide and/or depression.


exactly. a lot of people commiting suicide just has to
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BigCyp on January 19, 2012, 04:02:22 AM
Majority of suicides are due to depression. Real depression is something you can't 'think' yourself out of. It's a disease that needs first diagnosed and then treated with both SSRI's and aggressive psychotherapy. SSRI's alone generally don't cut it, and by themselves, make exacerbate suicidal tendencies

Studies on the cadavers of suicide victims have shown their brains to be physically different from that of a normal functioning brain.

Some ignorant people in this thread, as usual, passing judgement without know the first thing about suicide and/or depression.


I'll bet your brain is shaped like a penis 'YngiweRhoads'
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on January 19, 2012, 04:04:30 AM
exactly. a lot of people commiting suicide just has to

Right on the money Mars.

I'll bet your brain is shaped like a penis 'YngiweRhoads'

Dunno, it's covered by 3 feet of hair.  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 19, 2012, 04:05:02 AM
Pray this prayer, it might help:

Quote
Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 19, 2012, 04:38:13 AM
Pray this prayer, it might help:


Is that before or after the cum dribbles out of the alter boys' rectum  ???

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 19, 2012, 05:11:13 AM
Is that before or after the cum dribbles out of the alter boys' rectum  ???

PT

You are one sick fuck.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: DK II on January 19, 2012, 05:27:09 AM
Would you ever consider it?

Just once.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 05:28:49 AM
I am disgusted by the amount of empathy, and understanding that has been displayed in this thread.

This is the Thunderdome bitches!  ;D
Aww go kill yourself!!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 05:30:18 AM
I`m the type of dude that would blow my fucking brains out and on the next day the lottery ticket I bought  the week before would be a billion dollar winner!  :(










































;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 19, 2012, 06:19:51 AM
You are one sick fuck.
& you are a fucking NOOB  ::)
But boy Dazza (oh look, got a new name already), all up in the thunderdome crying like a bitch  :'(

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2012, 06:25:15 AM
I would NEVER consider it.  If there are people who love you out there, or care about you, doing something like that is pathetic, selfish and fucks up many people, more than they ever think.  You always have good days and bad days.  It sucks.  And unfortunately, it affects a lot of people.  Especially when they hurt more than themselves.



And if not?

Other than my old assed parents, I can't name a one.  In 39 years, I've never formed a relationship with a person who wasn't there for some sort of payoff (not necessarily financial).  Love?  Care about?  Insofar as someone views me as a benefit to themselves, yes, they "care" about me.  How sweet.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 06:38:01 AM
No I love life too much. 
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:40:33 AM
And if not?

Other than my old assed parents, I can't name a one.  In 39 years, I've never formed a relationship with a person who wasn't there for some sort of payoff (not necessarily financial).  Love?  Care about?  Insofar as someone views me as a benefit to themselves, yes, they "care" about me.  How sweet.
You come in alone,and you go out alone is what I always say. 
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BigCyp on January 19, 2012, 06:41:00 AM
And if not?

Other than my old assed parents, I can't name a one.  In 39 years, I've never formed a relationship with a person who wasn't there for some sort of payoff (not necessarily financial).  Love?  Care about?  Insofar as someone views me as a benefit to themselves, yes, they "care" about me.  How sweet.

Jesus cares about you.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:42:05 AM
No I love life too much. 
Beat it you little happyass..........don`t rain on our pity parade! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 19, 2012, 06:47:13 AM
And if not?

Other than my old assed parents, I can't name a one.  In 39 years, I've never formed a relationship with a person who wasn't there for some sort of payoff (not necessarily financial).  Love?  Care about?  Insofar as someone views me as a benefit to themselves, yes, they "care" about me.  How sweet.

I've always been a fan of your writing and good humor.  While both elements provide direct measurable benefit to me (the reader), that level of talent can not, nor should be ignored.

You might have never met or seen me, but you have established a long lasting relationship with me by way of your work..

Your words will live on forever,
"1"  
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 06:47:28 AM
Beat it you little happyass..........don`t rain on our pity parade! LOL  ;D
Well fuck it.....you only get one life, so make the most of it.   :P   In all honesty, I have felt like it probably twice in my life after tragedies, however there is something in me that keeps fighting and I don't stay down for long.  I always rebound up and rise above anything devastating that has happened in my life.  I believe that suicide is extremely selfish and hurts the ones you leave behind.  I would never do it.  
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2012, 06:49:31 AM
Still pathetic and fucked up.  So his ex-wife divorces him... Dude feels like he fucked his life up.  He may not want to live this day or week, but things can get better.  50% of people get divorced. People loses their jobs, houses, savings.  And you know what - for many of them, they get remarried, they find something else to enjoy, they work back up.

This isnt a 80 year old person who is terminal with cancer, etc.  He is selfish.  Sad for the kids?  Seriously? Screw the kids up because he wants to kill himself.  Bottom line, it is fucked, and they need help.

what if he stayed alive and killed them because he got too fucked up in the head ?
we see this all the time in the news

I prefer that he kills himself than see on the news that 2 kids were killed by a fucked up father who went crazy
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 19, 2012, 06:50:12 AM
No I love life myself too much. 
FIXED ^^^^ for accuracy

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:52:15 AM
Well fuck it.....you only get one life, so make the most of it.   :P   In all honesty, I have felt like it probably twice in my life after tragedies, however there is something in me that keeps fighting and I don't stay down for long.  I always rebound up and rise above anything devastating that has happened in my life.  I believe that suicide is extremely selfish and hurts the ones you leave behind.  I would never do it.  
Calm down hun,I was just trying to inject a little humor into this otherwise depressing thread.  :)

I rise up also, and have had a terrible life at times,but it isn`t as do-able for some as it is for others.

All you can do is take it one day at a time,try to stay positive,and surround yourself with positive people if you know any,and never give up hope.

Training helps me out a lot,but I still get depressed daily,of course the degree of my depression varies all of the time.

THROWING OUT A CYBER GROUP HUG TO ALL IN THIS THREAD!!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:54:18 AM
And if not?

Other than my old assed parents, I can't name a one.  In 39 years, I've never formed a relationship with a person who wasn't there for some sort of payoff (not necessarily financial).  Love?  Care about?  Insofar as someone views me as a benefit to themselves, yes, they "care" about me.  How sweet.
Hey Tape,I only know you from here,but as OneMoreRep said,I think you are a cool dude!!

Stay strong bro!!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: pillowtalk on January 19, 2012, 06:55:04 AM
And if not?

Other than my old assed parents, I can't name a one.  In 39 years, I've never formed a relationship with a person who wasn't there for some sort of payoff (not necessarily financial).  Love?  Care about?  Insofar as someone views me as a benefit to themselves, yes, they "care" about me.  How sweet.
THIS ^^^^
The exception is my wife, but other than that  ??? NOPE.
None of us really give a fuck about most of the people we share our lives with.

PT
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:56:47 AM
Weirdly enough,I always felt like nobody gave a flying fuck about me.....but in reality,lots of people really like and care about me.

Ironically enough,I never liked myself!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 19, 2012, 06:58:20 AM
fuck no. If you ever find me with a suicide note, I didn't write it. I'd rather be raped in prison than dead
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2012, 07:00:18 AM
fuck no. If you ever find me with a suicide note, I didn't write it. I'd rather be raped in prison than dead

you wouldn't be raped in prison exept if you are a pussy
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 07:02:12 AM
Calm down hun,I was just trying to inject a little humor into this otherwise depressing thread.  :)

I rise up also, and have had a terrible life at times,but it isn`t as do-able for some as it is for others.

All you can do is take it one day at a time,try to stay positive,and surround yourself with positive people if you know any,and never give up hope.

Training helps me out a lot,but I still get depressed daily,of course the degree of my depression varies all of the time.

THROWING OUT A CYBER GROUP HUG TO ALL IN THIS THREAD!!  ;D
I am calm....I have a poking out my tounge smilie.   ;D  And yes I agree with you fully.  Training has kept me sane and helped me over come some very sad times.  
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:05:36 AM
I am calm....I have a poking out my tounge smilie.   ;D  And yes I agree with you fully.  Training has kept me sane and helped me over come some very sad times. 
I`m sorry,I thought you were getting pissed at me when my intentions were just to add a bit of levity.

Ya` know booty,older men make great lovers.  ;D'

Again,just fucking around....kind of!!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:06:09 AM
I HATE WILL GRANT!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: deceiver on January 19, 2012, 07:09:28 AM
No, I'm obsessive about death actually. I like to read about cryogenics and stuff like that to delude myself that from theory of information standpoint immortality is possible.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 07:09:48 AM
I`m sorry,I thought you were getting pissed at me when my intentions were just to add a bit of levity.

Ya` know booty,older men make great lovers.  ;D'

Again,just fucking around....kind of!!  :)
Hell no, that wasn't me pissed wes.  It takes alot to make me pissed...that was me taking the piss out of you maybe?  HAHA   ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 19, 2012, 07:11:22 AM
you wouldn't be raped in prison exept if you are a pussy

True, but the point I was trying to make is that I'd never kill myself for any reason. I'd be way too curious who the next superbowl or nba champion will be, or what cool new iphone comes out next
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 07:12:01 AM
I HATE WILL GRANT!!!  ;D
He says Hi too.   :D
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Geo on January 19, 2012, 07:13:51 AM
i would consider it in the case of other people and wholly support it.

it's permanent solution to a temporary problem
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 19, 2012, 07:14:10 AM
you wouldn't be raped in prison exept if you are a pussy

What if he enjoys the gentle touch of another man?  

(http://iamsupergorge.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Taleon-Goffney-naked.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_f0bvyZMrZ9k/TJ7OPywKMvI/AAAAAAAAFpo/rcifiuP3G-0/s1600/prison+sex+2.jpg)

(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/screen-shot-2011-04-25-at-10-22-56-am-e1303741432122.png?w=475)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3943627574_f780c87db6.jpg)

(http://cdn.unicornbooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Lets-Hear-It-For-the-First-Gay-Couple-to-Marry-in-Prison.jpeg)

(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000.bteTB3SSew/s/750/600/es9jeffrey-G122.jpg)

(http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/f3e/66c/f3e66cd5-af2a-4f02-9b2f-c401ea4b978c)

Just saying..
"1"
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:15:10 AM
Hell no, that wasn't me pissed wes.  It takes alot to make me pissed...that was me taking the piss out of you maybe?  HAHA   ;D

You brat!! ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:15:56 AM
He says Hi too.   :D
Tell him I`m gonna` commit suicide because he shattered my dreams and fantasies!!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Borracho on January 19, 2012, 07:16:09 AM
Would you ever consider it?

Personally I would rather kill myself slowly with drugs, alcohol and hookers. But you have to keep it going somehow cause when you come off you'll likely wanna off yourself.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Swlabr on January 19, 2012, 07:16:14 AM
Yeah, but not for the reason most people want to kill themselves. As a kid I was quite religious, and I really wanted to meet God, so sometimes I thought to myself "If I killed myself now, I can finally say hi to God". ;D


I never contemplated suicide because of things going on in my life, though. It's just never been that hard, really. Of course we all have ups and downs but for me I always managed to get on with life and enjoy it. It's probably because I'm still young, though.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:16:54 AM
What if he enjoys the gentle touch of another man? 

(http://iamsupergorge.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Taleon-Goffney-naked.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_f0bvyZMrZ9k/TJ7OPywKMvI/AAAAAAAAFpo/rcifiuP3G-0/s1600/prison+sex+2.jpg)

(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/screen-shot-2011-04-25-at-10-22-56-am-e1303741432122.png?w=475)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3943627574_f780c87db6.jpg)

(http://cdn.unicornbooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Lets-Hear-It-For-the-First-Gay-Couple-to-Marry-in-Prison.jpeg)

(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000.bteTB3SSew/s/750/600/es9jeffrey-G122.jpg)

(http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/f3e/66c/f3e66cd5-af2a-4f02-9b2f-c401ea4b978c)

Just saying..
"1"
You funny bastard,and I mean funny in the regular way,not funny "funny" !!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 07:18:35 AM
Tell him I`m gonna` commit suicide because he shattered my dreams and fantasies!!  ;D
Haha...I'll tell him.  ;D Will misses getbig.  He should have his pc up and running hopefully by friday.  He got rxherpes.   :'(
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Butterbean on January 19, 2012, 07:18:55 AM
Yeah, but not for the reason most people want to kill themselves. As a kid I was quite religious, and I really wanted to meet God, so sometimes I thought to myself "If I killed myself now, I can finally say hi to God". ;D



Very misguided but very sweet ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
Yeah, but not for the reason most people want to kill themselves. As a kid I was quite religious, and I really wanted to meet God, so sometimes I thought to myself "If I killed myself now, I can finally say hi to God". ;D


I never contemplated suicide because of things going on in my life, though. It's just never been that hard, really. Of course we all have ups and downs but for me I always managed to get on with life and enjoy it. It's probably because I'm still young, though.

When I used to get into fights,I would tell the other guy,"get ready to meet God motherf ucker" !!  ;D

Got my ass kicked a lot.......but I still haven`t met the man.  :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:24:39 AM
Haha...I'll tell him.  ;D Will misses getbig.  He should have his pc up and running hopefully by friday.  He got rxherpes.   :'(
He`s a good dude,and one funny fucker!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2012, 07:26:31 AM
You come in alone,and you go out alone is what I always say.  

Contrary to common wisdom, I am a muthafuckin' island.  If someone wants to be my Mary Ann or Ginger (hey, I'm not picky), that's great but I'm not going to topple over if someone removes their support.  The 'living for others' schtick doesn't really do it for me.  Rings pretty hollow in discussions about suicide since not all of us have a clan of these famous Loved Ones that we're supposed to consider.


Jesus cares about you.

Yeah but he pretty much HAS to, right?

Cheers, man.  :)


I've always been a fan of your writing and good humor.  While both elements provide direct measurable benefit to me (the reader), that level of talent can not, nor should be ignored.

You might have never met or seen me, but you have established a long lasting relationship with me by way of your work..

Your words will live on forever,
"1"  

Thanks, 1.  You bring a great combo of wit and wisdom in your posts and I find myself frequently agreeing with your insights, particularly the above!  Been enjoying your writing here since I first joined up.




Cheers, Stella.  I'm nowhere near shuffling off, just lamenting the nature of human relationships in response to Big Ron's post.

I should have qualified it by saying 'no IRL relationships that I've formed.'  I've met lots of people online that I really like and feel are good souls.  And of course you love me.  You get to experience me here in, shall we say, sensible doses.  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 07:27:04 AM
He`s a good dude,and one funny fucker!  :)
Yes he is a really good, sweet, caring man who is also very funny.  Ticks all the boxes.   :)  
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:28:38 AM
Contrary to common wisdom, I am a muthafuckin' island.  If someone wants to be my Mary Ann or Ginger (hey, I'm not picky), that's great but I'm not going to topple over if someone removes their support.  The 'living for others' schtick doesn't really do it for me.  Rings pretty hollow in discussions about suicide since not all of us have a clan of these famous Loved Ones that we're supposed to consider.


Yeah but he pretty much HAS to, right?

Cheers, man.  :)


Thanks, 1.  You bring a great combo of wit and wisdom in your posts and I find myself frequently agreeing with your insights, particularly the above!  Been enjoying your writing here since I first joined up.



Cheers, Stella.  I'm nowhere near shuffling off, just lamenting the nature of human relationships in response to Big Ron's post.

I should have qualified it by saying 'no IRL relationships that I've formed.'  I've met lots of people online that I really like and feel are good souls.  And of course you love me.  You get to experience me here in, shall we say, sensible doses.  ;D
My motto,especially back when I drank a lot was,"I walk alone".
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: hrspwr on January 19, 2012, 07:29:00 AM

 suicidal people don't always want to die...they just want the pain to stop.

 


 This. Some people never have to go through serious depression, others have to live with it every fucking day of their lives - if you have never experienced it consider yourself fortunate. It has nothing to do with money, people or family. For me, I have lived with the shit ever since I was a child.
 One of the best ways for me to overcome my depression has been physical exercise, that and staying away from the drugs, booze and crazy bitches.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2012, 07:38:43 AM
My motto,especially back when I drank a lot was,"I walk alone".

I walk with my dog (seriously, he's next to me all day).  These humans aren't all they're cracked up to be irl.  Naturally, it's all their fault!  8)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:43:24 AM
I walk with my dog (seriously, he's next to me all day).  These humans aren't all they're cracked up to be irl.  Naturally, it's all their fault!  8)
Tape,I`m a fucking depressed mess of a person.........if it wasn`t from my dogs,my wife,who I think secretly hates me,and working out,I`d be dead from drinking and drugging right now.

I keep on swinging hoping things will get better and for brief periods they do.

I used to have a drinking buddy who used to say someday the sun would be shining on both sides of the street for me.........still fucking waiting dude!!

People do suck,but without them,I`d have no one to vent my litanys of woe to!  ;D

Stay strong bud!!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: basil on January 19, 2012, 07:44:04 AM
To anyone who has never seriously considered suicide kill yourself now. I was thinking about it for a couple of years had a sleep disorder, no other way around it. Luckly I got it fixed, but otherwise I most likely would of drowned myself in a canoe.

P.S. if you get on with all this crap about being selfish, you have no fucking clue what it actually means to want to kill yourself. Also just because it's a suicide don't mean you gotta go about it like a whinny bitch. Rent a canoe, drink as much beer as you can and tip the thing. Where I grew up it happened all the time, everyone just assumes their idiots reality is there far more clever than most realize.

u clever injuns.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: booty on January 19, 2012, 07:46:33 AM
Tape,I`m a fucking depressed mess of a person.........if it wasn`t from my dogs,my wife,who I secretly hates me,and working out,I`d be dead from drinking and drugging right now.

I keep on swinging hoping things will get better and for brief periods they do.

I used to have a drinking buddy who used to say someday the sun would be shining on both sides of the street for me.........still fucking waiting dude!!

People do suck,but without them,I`d have no one to vent my litanys of woe to!  ;D

Stay strong bud!!  :)
And you've got getbig for a laugh too.   ;D  Cyber hugs wes.   :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:49:17 AM
Thanks hun!!  :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2012, 07:58:39 AM
Tape,I`m a fucking depressed mess of a person.........if it wasn`t from my dogs,my wife,who I secretly hates me,and working out,I`d be dead from drinking and drugging right now.

I keep on swinging hoping things will get better and for brief periods they do.

I used to have a drinking buddy who used to say someday the sun would be shining on both sides of the street for me.........still fucking waiting dude!!

People do suck,but without them,I`d have no one to vent my litanys of woe to!  ;D

Stay strong bud!!  :)

You too, Wes.  Fwiw, I think of you was one of those real tough battler Old School guys that the rest of us have to try to live up to!  Like Chuck Yeager.  But ripped.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 08:03:17 AM
You too, Wes.  Fwiw, I think of you was one of those real tough battler Old School guys that the rest of us have to try to live up to!  Like Chuck Yeager.  But ripped.
LOL  ;D
Thanks bro,this sure ain`t my first rodeo to say the very least!!  ;D

All the best.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 19, 2012, 08:24:47 AM
I'd consider suicide if it was revealed that Pillowtalk was submissive in bed, Swede was shorter than 6'5", Milton was black, Goodrum wasn't straight, Derek Anthony wasn't natural and W8M8 wasn't as good looking as i first thought.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 08:26:12 AM
I'd consider suicide if it was revealed that Pillowtalk was submissive in bed, Swede was shorter than 6'5", Milton was black, Goodrum wasn't straight, Derek Anthony wasn't natural and W8M8 wasn't as good looking as i first thought.
It`s been nice knowing you!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: io856 on January 19, 2012, 08:28:55 AM
No I love life too much. 
women  ::)




 :D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: ag2 on January 19, 2012, 09:49:29 AM
I say do it and post a video of you doing it live on the internet.  Even though you will be dead you will become an immortal legend  :o

There is no issue with you killing yourself, think of it as the ultimate form of self criticism  ;)

Also, once dead all your stress goes away, no bills, no traffice, no women problems, Win win  ;D

If you would like to know about some pain free ways of offing yourself, PM me.

Religon of peace  ::)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: el numero uno on January 19, 2012, 09:55:24 AM
Majority of suicides are due to depression. Real depression is something you can't 'think' yourself out of. It's a disease that needs first diagnosed and then treated with both SSRI's and aggressive psychotherapy. SSRI's alone generally don't cut it, and by themselves, make exacerbate suicidal tendencies

Studies on the cadavers of suicide victims have shown their brains to be physically different from that of a normal functioning brain.

Some ignorant people in this thread, as usual, passing judgement without know the first thing about suicide and/or depression.


Spot on
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on January 19, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
I`m the type of dude that would blow my fucking brains out and on the next day the lottery ticket I bought  the week before would be a billion dollar winner!  :(

There you go....you never know what the future holds. Of course when your dead, it makes no difference because you have no future.









































;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 10:13:05 AM
I used to talk to a close friend about being depressed and he used to say:

"Put a rubber band around your head and snap yourself out of it" !

If only it was that easy,everybody would feel great all of the time.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 19, 2012, 10:31:39 AM
No two brains are alike. Hell, 1 out of every 24 people who walk the Earth are said to be considered sociopaths. Which means they don't have the ability to have real empathy toward anyone. Imagine being born without having the ability to give a shit about anyone's feelings. They say these people control the world. Politicians, Bankers, CEO's etc.

Now if a sociopath killed himself, which many do, how in the world could he/she ever understand that its a selfish act if these people don't have the ability to give a shit about anyone but themselves?

The human brain is amazing. And death itself can fucked up a loved one regardless of how it comes. The problem with most societies on Earth are we are trying to beat death. When in fact, death is natural and should be embraced.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: coltrane on January 19, 2012, 10:37:50 AM
If you have a terminal, painful illness, i'm ok with it as long as it's well thought out with family etc.  I guess I beleve in euthanasia Kevorkian style.

The random idiot who offs himself because he lost his job, etc. is a moron. 

It's selfish and affects so many people. 

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: dustin on January 19, 2012, 10:48:15 AM
I used to talk to a close friend about being depressed and he used to say:

"Put a rubber band around your head and snap yourself out of it" !

If only it was that easy,everybody would feel great all of the time.

If only it were that easy...

I don't want to sound like a hypochondriac but I think I'm probably bipolar. I otherwise love life and have a pretty damn good one, but then there are challenges that I encounter that bring me down so much. They are some pretty heavy problems, but they bring me down, down, down.

The thing that brings me up though is stuff like family and friends. When you're feeling down, sometimes a kind gesture or a good talk can raise your spirits 110%. Our minds are fascinating the way they work. I try reminding myself that I can feel "up" just as easily. But there are still some things I struggle with. The migraines in particular... they can torture me for days on end and that's usually when I think of putting a bullet through my head.

If I ever did that, I'd film it and be a martyr for those who have a chronic illness. I'd leave a message to say that THIS should illustrate just how real chronic neurological pain is. A glass of water or a good nights sleep doesn't fix a migraine like so many fucking ignorant pricks suggest. That would show them they're wrong... but it'd carry the ultimate price tag.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 19, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
As long as we have people on earth who are so stubborn and naive to believe that Mental Illness doesn't really exist and every brain is basically the same, we will continue to have a pathetic society with closeted lying homo's like Tom Cruise getting a major voice to the public at large.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 25, 2013, 02:02:34 PM
I absolutely do. Sometimes I think it may be an only solution to end the darkness.

When the darkness takes control of your life and you are left with nothing in return but only lost opportunities, broken relationships and dreams and always the endless, exhausting confusion...what can you do?

Stuck in shit end jobs, sucking up to people you want to kill, angry at yourself for the direction your life is in knowing that the darkness will always lead you back to the dead end no matter how many times you try to see a better life.

When your heart and soul is full of tar there is no other option.

Life is very hard to deal with when you are truly unhappy...
^^
LIVE for working out, develop a tremendous healthy sex life!!!!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 25, 2013, 02:03:52 PM
I used to talk to a close friend about being depressed and he used to say:

"Put a rubber band around your head and snap yourself out of it" !

If only it was that easy,everybody would feel great all of the time.
^^
WHERE the hell have you been, BRO?????
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on March 25, 2013, 02:04:54 PM
I always say if someone finds me dead with a suicide note next to me, I didn't write it.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Nomad on March 25, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
Russian roulette is the way to go

Either way you are a winner.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BILL ANVIL on March 25, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Russian roulette is the way to go

Either way you are a winner.



actually you are talking about suicide bombing, where if i lose, we all lose

roulette is def a cool way to go out though lol.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BDsauce on March 25, 2013, 04:34:28 PM
Everyone has probably thought of it or killing someone....but hardly anyone acts on it.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BILL ANVIL on March 25, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
Everyone has probably thought of it or killing someone....but hardly anyone acts on it.

sure they do. probably lots of suicides on this site, maybe a few killers among us too
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 25, 2013, 06:03:52 PM
Lots of fucked up people in this thread. Really says something about this board.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 25, 2013, 06:12:24 PM
Lots of fucked up people in this thread. Really says something about this board.

Not the board, but the sport of bodybuilding and the people it attracts and are surrounded with.
Title: Re: Suicide
Post by: Stark on March 25, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Any-one who says that they have NEVER, suffered from depression, is a fucking fraud.
I don't care who you are, or how good you got it, nothing keeps us happy. It is an affliction that we are born with, being human.
The human condition, no words can truly capture it.


PT


Dude there is a huge difference between depressed and not feeling too happy today, it's not even in the same ballpark. That's the reason why most healthy people don't understand why you can kill yourself when you are depressed. You cannot just cheer yourself up with a little treat when depressed it's not like you see sense at the time, it just feels fucking awful and the difference is you feel awful inside. I have never been depressed but I had a panic attack once where I had the feeling I was 100% alone on this planet, it was the most lonely and gut wrenching feeling I ever had and it passed in under 5 min but I somebody feels like that everyday.... I understand why ending it would sound like a good idea.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stark on March 25, 2013, 11:33:29 PM
Everyone has probably thought of it or killing someone....but hardly anyone acts on it.

I think about death everyday.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stark on March 25, 2013, 11:34:54 PM
actually you are talking about suicide bombing, where if i lose, we all lose

roulette is def a cool way to go out though lol.

If you use a revolver yea not a semi automatic, THAT'S called stupidity
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: G_Thang on March 25, 2013, 11:36:52 PM
even in the darkest hour, i love my "G" too much.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Rami on March 25, 2013, 11:48:11 PM
even if you want to die why do it? we die late on anyway. life ain't that long (until life extension technology makes a breakthrough at least).
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2013, 11:59:39 PM
It is truly sad when someone feels so hopeless that death seems like the only way out. Some people who attempt suicide are screaming for attention, and they often feel sorry for themselves. At their core they probably don't really want to die. Unfortunately, many do anyway. As far as I know, once you are dead there is no coming back.

There is more then one type of suicide. There's the dramatic type where someone shoots them self or takes a swan dive off a highrise or the kind of slow suicide where someone drinks them self to death over a long period of time or eats them self obese.

If consuming mass amounts of PEDs causes death as some propose it does, then the bodybuilding lifestyle is a form of slow suicide.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 26, 2013, 05:38:02 AM
I had a running feud with a club bouncer. One day this bouncer sets 4 people onto me. I wind up in the hospital. For the next few weeks I was consumed with how I would get revenge on him. Then I hear he has hung himself.

I have thought about it a lot and I doubt I contributed to his decision. But it does make you wonder about peoples thought process.

If I was going to kill myself I would first drain my bank account and go on a huge bender. If I survived that, then take out a mortgage and go on an even bigger bender.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 26, 2013, 05:53:58 AM
I had a running feud with a club bouncer. One day this bouncer sets 4 people onto me. I wind up in the hospital. For the next few weeks I was consumed with how I would get revenge on him. Then I hear he has hung himself.

I have thought about it a lot and I doubt I contributed to his decision. But it does make you wonder about peoples thought process.

If I was going to kill myself I would first drain my bank account and go on a huge bender. If I survived that, then take out a mortgage and go on an even bigger bender.
Leaving Las Vegas Auckland.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: MP on March 26, 2013, 06:05:29 AM


Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Raymondo on March 26, 2013, 07:08:50 AM
I had a running feud with a club bouncer. One day this bouncer sets 4 people onto me. I wind up in the hospital. For the next few weeks I was consumed with how I would get revenge on him. Then I hear he has hung himself.

I have thought about it a lot and I doubt I contributed to his decision. But it does make you wonder about peoples thought process.

If I was going to kill myself I would first drain my bank account and go on a huge bender. If I survived that, then take out a mortgage and go on an even bigger bender.

You pissed someone off so much he sent 4 people after you- mark of the true getbigger :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 26, 2013, 07:09:56 AM
Leaving Las Vegas Auckland.

My neighbor, 46 year old dude, drank himself to death. Evidently he was downing a half gallon of vodka a day and went to the hospital with stomach problems or whatever. Anyway, he had. 20% liver function and still didn't stop. Fucking moron, he had kids.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stark on March 26, 2013, 07:27:56 AM
My neighbor, 46 year old dude, drank himself to death. Evidently he was downing a half gallon of vodka a day and went to the hospital with stomach problems or whatever. Anyway, he had. 20% liver function and still didn't stop. Fucking moron, he had kids.

Thats an addiction.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Rami on March 26, 2013, 08:11:37 AM
I haven't noticed anything wrong with thinking about suicide on a daily bases, picturing how you will do it, and what you need to do before to prepare etc. I find that's normal and safe.

But when you're staring to considering it, then you run the risk of it being abnormal and unsafe.

So the moral of the story, if you want to do it you wouldn't think of it so much and just do it. That's how I know I'm normal and safe.




And it will also make you miss your next workout. And other reoccurring things that you might enjoy.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Stark on March 26, 2013, 08:27:22 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 26, 2013, 09:53:31 AM
Everyone has probably thought of it or killing someone....but hardly anyone acts on it.

If this wasn't true, horror movies and shows like CSI probably wouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: tu_holmes on March 26, 2013, 09:54:17 AM
Every time the GH15 thread pops up on my refresh, I contemplate it... Most definitely.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Necrosis on March 26, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
I would NEVER consider it.  If there are people who love you out there, or care about you, doing something like that is pathetic, selfish and fucks up many people, more than they ever think.  You always have good days and bad days.  It sucks.  And unfortunately, it affects a lot of people.  Especially when they hurt more than themselves.

Don't forget about Dave Jacobs, who killed a beautiful girl and someone people cared about because he couldnt deal with shit, and then killed himself.

A few months ago, an ex-coworker of mine, who worked with me for 4 years a long time ago, killed himself.  Hanged. WTF?  My age.  The guy had two kids, a young daughter, age 5.  WTF was he thinking? Because he was going through a divorce. Because his ex was driving him crazy? Never one did he stop to think about his kids, and how much they loved him, and how they will have to live with this ever day on what he did.   Bobb Giacobbe was his name.  One of our first sales rep.  Was things that bad in life?

And then there was Figure Olympia Jennifer Gates, who was separated and getting a divorce from her husband, who also killed himself too.  WTF? They had a daughter too.  Pure selfish acts.  Jennifer has since remarried and the son and daughter in a loving family home.


So if you know someone who is even contemplating it, urge them get talk it out, to anyone - because often, they are in a state of depression that is very hard to get out of at that moment.






What does Dave jacobs offing his family have to do with suicide, that's murder namely homicide.

You have no obligation to suffer for others to enjoy you, that is the most selfish act I can think of. Hey your life is a living torture, but keep suffering because I love you.

Suicide is not selfish and usually people who commit it are wrought with the guilt of the effects it will have on others. It should be a last resort obviously, but it is a real option.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Man of Steel on March 26, 2013, 10:06:10 AM
I have considered suicide in my darkest moments, but then the Lord Jesus Christ changed my heart and brought joy to my life and those days of suicidal contemplation and darkness are merely a thing of the past.

PRAISE GOD that he broke me down, took me through the fire and rebuilt me from the inside out!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 26, 2013, 10:09:49 AM
I know nobody mentioned it in the Nassar thread, but i'd bet the house that he took his own life in the end.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 26, 2013, 10:33:31 AM
We can always get Terry involved if you want to go down.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: daddy8ball on March 26, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
If you were going to be captured and tortured to death by a Mexican cartel, or Comanches then I think quite a few would not only consider it, but actually do it.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: MikMaq on March 26, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
As long as we have people on earth who are so stubborn and naive to believe that Mental Illness doesn't really exist and every brain is basically the same, we will continue to have a pathetic society with closeted lying homo's like Tom Cruise getting a major voice to the public at large.
Agreed.

i get a kick out of normal people thinking they understand the real shit.

Getting depressed, after a girl breaks up with you, or because your stuck in shit job is one thing.

Its seriously difficult to even explain the level of misery some folk have.

IT has nothing to do with what there thinking, not there beliefs in god, or anything happening in teh real world.

Some people just feel awful, for no god dam reason.

For me the biggest lesson of my entire life, is that I feel miserable nearly 90 percent of the day, for no dam reason.

In fact apparently I have an abornormally high pain threshold which is why I don't  some severe damage to my tendons without being aware of it.

And that's even when I'm blisffully happy.


Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: funk51 on March 26, 2013, 11:31:09 AM
Would you ever consider it?
of course, but it's the cowards way out .
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 26, 2013, 11:36:32 AM
If you were going to be captured and tortured to death by a Mexican cartel, or Comanches then I think quite a few would not only consider it, but actually do it.
^^
GOOD EXAMPLE!!!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Raymondo on March 26, 2013, 02:22:40 PM
Like my main man Nietzsche once said:

"The thought of suicide is a powerful solace: by means of it one gets through many a bad night."
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
I had a running feud with a club bouncer. One day this bouncer sets 4 people onto me. I wind up in the hospital. For the next few weeks I was consumed with how I would get revenge on him. Then I hear he has hung himself.

I have thought about it a lot and I doubt I contributed to his decision. But it does make you wonder about peoples thought process.

If I was going to kill myself I would first drain my bank account and go on a huge bender. If I survived that, then take out a mortgage and go on an even bigger bender.

You should watch the film "Leaving Las Vegas" (1995) staring Nicolis Cage and Elizabeth Shue. You may think twice about going out on a bender.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2013, 06:05:15 PM
What does Dave jacobs offing his family have to do with suicide, that's murder namely homicide.

You have no obligation to suffer for others to enjoy you, that is the most selfish act I can think of. Hey your life is a living torture, but keep suffering because I love you.

Suicide is not selfish and usually people who commit it are wrought with the guilt of the effects it will have on others. It should be a last resort obviously, but it is a real option.

There are those who would disagree with you when you suggest that suicide is not selfish, namely those close friends and/or family which are left behind to forever wonder if there was something they could have done to prevent the suicide.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: K-1 on March 26, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
I cannot self terminate...

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Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: MikMaq on March 26, 2013, 06:53:40 PM
There are those who would disagree with you when you suggest that suicide is not selfish, namely those close friends and/or family which are left behind to forever wonder if there was something they could have done to prevent the suicide.
SPare me this bullshit. There are tons of abussive assholes, that would forever add to the betterment of mankind by simply tieing a knot.


That's ignoring the fact that most of these so called friends and families are fucking shit bags.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
SPare me this bullshit. There are tons of abussive assholes, that would forever add to the betterment of mankind by simply tieing a knot.


That's ignoring the fact that most of these so called friends and families are fucking shit bags.



I don't know you except from your posts here. Judging from what you just posted, you have an exceptionally miserable life. It is a shame that all you can say about friends and family is that they are "shit bags." This doesn't bode well for your friends and family relationships.

As for "abusive assholes" ridding themselves of this life, if but that were true. Unfortunately, at least some folks who choose to end their own lives are actually very sensitive and caring people....sometimes too much so, which is why they can't see themselves continuing to live among the abusive assholes who have treated badly and who will continue to do this to others for sometime after their victims have succumbed to the final decision.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: dyslexic on March 27, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Sad, sad state of affairs... if that is truly what this fallen world has come to.


If you are feeling depressed and it has escalated to the point of wanting everything to end: GET HELP!


There are so many easy ways to do this.


Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

Talk to someone. Take direction and get control.


Spirituality is everything. Look into it. You were not put on this earth to suffer.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on March 27, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
Sad, sad state of affairs... if that is truly what this fallen world has come to.


If you are feeling depressed and it has escalated to the point of wanting everything to end: GET HELP!


There are so many easy ways to do this.


Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

Talk to someone. Take direction and get control.


Spirituality is everything. Look into it. You were not put on this earth to suffer.

Good stuff man

Depression is a bitch. But there are ways to lessen the pain.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2013, 03:24:53 AM
some people are actually better off killing themselves

it's cruel to talk them out of it

You know different people than I do.

Personally, I would much rather go out at the top of my game then to succumb to feeling like a failure and having no reason to go on. But then, I am not likely to commit suicide unless I was suffering from a fatal ailment which would result in a downward spiral. Like I said, I want to be at the top of my game.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Method101 on March 28, 2013, 03:28:01 AM
Suicide is such a waste, it would be better to go out in a blaze of glory taking some of this corrupt society with you.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 28, 2013, 05:52:12 AM
You know different people than I do.

Personally, I would much rather go out at the top of my game then to succumb to feeling like a failure and having no reason to go on. But then, I am not likely to commit suicide unless I was suffering from a fatal ailment which would result in a downward spiral. Like I said, I want to be at the top of my game.
Tim Flock was old nascar racing driver he got cancer the doctors asked if he wanted radiation he said no "no just give me a fifth of Jack Daniels whiskey" true story.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: MP on March 28, 2013, 05:52:48 AM
Suicide is such a waste, it would be better to go out in a blaze of glory taking some of this corrupt society with you.

Um ... no.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: gracie bjj on March 28, 2013, 06:33:02 AM
i have a list in my room of everyone who ever did me wrong, if/when i decide to end it all i will seek these people out n stab them in the liver with an ice pick n laugh at them while they r dying. if i do decide to end i will first take a ton of xanax, then shoot myself in the head, after that i will drive to the bridge near my house n jump, soon after i jump off bridge i will slit my wrist while im free falling
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: MikMaq on March 28, 2013, 07:05:19 AM
I don't know you except from your posts here. Judging from what you just posted, you have an exceptionally miserable life. It is a shame that all you can say about friends and family is that they are "shit bags." This doesn't bode well for your friends and family relationships.

As for "abusive assholes" ridding themselves of this life, if but that were true. Unfortunately, at least some folks who choose to end their own lives are actually very sensitive and caring people....sometimes too much so, which is why they can't see themselves continuing to live among the abusive assholes who have treated badly and who will continue to do this to others for sometime after their victims have succumbed to the final decision.
Pay attention, I never said my friends and family were shit bags, I said many people who kill themselves have shit friends and family, I've witness this myself of late.

Meh it's a shame alot of bad things happen, that doesn't mean suicide is inherently a bad option, just suicide typically goes along with some very bad things.

Anyhow I'm a fucked up person so fucking what, I'm tired of a bunch of folks trying to act tough, but have to pretend real shit don't exist.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Method101 on March 28, 2013, 08:56:55 AM
something a kid would say

or a psychopath
lulz
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 28, 2013, 09:26:19 AM
Not all mental illness is created equal...There is so much undiagnosed shit going on in the brain. It's not as black and white as trying to talk someone out of killing themselves the same way you couldn't talk someone out of getting dementia.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 28, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
I think God would forgive people who commit suicide.  Remember, he forgives everyone. All you have to do is ask  ::)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: TigerStripes on March 28, 2013, 09:33:05 AM
The biggest freedom in life is knowing that you can kill yourself at any time.

It's your life, it's your death too.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: LATS on March 28, 2013, 10:45:56 AM
 I personally couldn't do it.. But after this last shitty year with many medical issues I can see why some would.. I can now understand it..
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 28, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
Human beings are the only ones that have this option, say a dog in extreme pain just has to endure it.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 28, 2013, 07:03:07 PM
Human beings are the only ones that have this option, say a dog in extreme pain just has to endure it.

Although I think you are most likely right, I can't say 100% that this is true. They have now proven that schools of dolphins have fucked with other dolphins for the sole purpose of just fucking with them.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 28, 2013, 07:08:28 PM
For anyone ever thinking about doing it, remember this, death is coming no matter what you do. You may as well let it happen on it's own opposed to doing it yourself. ;)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: TigerStripes on March 28, 2013, 07:17:14 PM
I think suicide is the most honorable way to die if it death is coming soon anyway.

If I ever get terminally ill. I will kill myself before the disease can take me.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 28, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
I think suicide is the most honorable way to die if it death is coming soon anyway.

If I ever get terminally ill. I will kill myself before the disease can take me.

Last ditch effort of telling the Hierarchy who's really in control...I like it!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2013, 11:55:09 PM
i have a list in my room of everyone who ever did me wrong, if/when i decide to end it all i will seek these people out n stab them in the liver with an ice pick n laugh at them while they r dying. if i do decide to end i will first take a ton of xanax, then shoot myself in the head, after that i will drive to the bridge near my house n jump, soon after i jump off bridge i will slit my wrist while im free falling

It seems you have an issue with holding grudges.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
Pay attention, I never said my friends and family were shit bags, I said many people who kill themselves have shit friends and family, I've witness this myself of late.

Meh it's a shame alot of bad things happen, that doesn't mean suicide is inherently a bad option, just suicide typically goes along with some very bad things.

Anyhow I'm a fucked up person so fucking what, I'm tired of a bunch of folks trying to act tough, but have to pretend real shit don't exist.



Keep in mind that there is no redemption once you succeed in committing suicide. When you are dead, you are dead. Perhaps some folks will briefly grieve over losing you, but when all is said and done, they will move on with their lives. Unfortunately, as a successful suicide victim your life is over. There is no moving on from that.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2013, 12:28:59 AM
something a kid would say

or a psychopath

Agreed. My mother tried to kill herself in so many ways unsuccessfully. It was all about the drama and getting attention. Her chest was a spiderweb of scars from all the times she superficially stabbed herself over the years.

One time she called me on the phone and asked me to hold the line while she stabbed herself in the chest with a Hari-Kari style letter opener. In the background I could hear her screaming at my preteen sisters to get something for the blood....and then the phone went dead. My wife and I drove across the San Fernando valley in L.A. in record time only to discover the neighbor had called an ambulance and she had been taken to Encino hospital. When we arrived at the hospital and entered the front doors we could hear her yelling not to call the police. The hospital staff already had called them. I walked into her hospital room and just glared at her in disgust.

Though out most of my childhood I lived with this crazy woman who was my mother and who I loved dearly. I cannot tell you here how many harrowing experiences I endured as a kid growing up where she was bent on killing herself. There were times when she was drunk out of her mind and driving 90 mph on surface streets while ranting that her life was too hard to endure, while I sat in the passenger seat scared shitless that this was the end for me too.

I know first hand how devastating it is to live with someone who suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. What fascinates me today is how when she was dying from emphysema as a result of smoking endless packs of cigarettes every day since her teenage years, she fought like hell to stay alive. The will to live is a powerful thing. My mother came back from the dead several times in the last three years of her life. She ended up committing suicide by cigarettes when she was only 61 years old. Although I miss her, I was so well prepared over a lifetime of false attempts to end her own live, that I felt a sense of relief when she finally succeeded in accomplishing what she had for so long tried to accomplish.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 29, 2013, 01:31:16 PM
a lot of people have suicidal tendencies but dont have the ballz to do it


that's why i think it's all about increasing your odds of sudden death


like stop wearing your seatbelt


little things, if you can do a lot of them, your odds of final relief are greatly increased
This ^.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Necrosis on March 30, 2013, 06:00:41 AM
For anyone ever thinking about doing it, remember this, death is coming no matter what you do. You may as well let it happen on it's own opposed to doing it yourself. ;)


makes no sense, you obviously have never had major depression. In a state of major depression the idea of waiting for death to occur and to continue suffering because it is coming anyway is absurd. In that state why would one wait? an endure the pain they wish to escape.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BILL ANVIL on March 30, 2013, 02:28:35 PM

makes no sense, you obviously have never had major depression. In a state of major depression the idea of waiting for death to occur and to continue suffering because it is coming anyway is absurd. In that state why would one wait? an endure the pain they wish to escape.

hes never had to fight to survive why would he understand
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: funk51 on March 30, 2013, 03:06:29 PM
just found out 3 of the 50 united states offer doctor assisted suicides who'd of funk it. oregon maine and one other. course if you live in those states i can see why. just quessing but in my estimation washington state would be another likely candidate. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 30, 2013, 08:43:41 PM
just found out 3 of the 50 united states offer doctor assisted suicides who'd of funk it. oregon maine and one other. course if you live in those states i can see why. just quessing but in my estimation washington state would be another likely candidate. ::) ::) ::) ::)

What do you think this assisted suicide means? I live in Oregon. Unless you are already terminal, assisted suicide is not an option. It is not like some 30 year old who broke up with his girlfriend and is depressed can ask the doctor for assisted suicide.

Oregon is a beautiful place to live. Today it was 75 degrees and sunny all day. There are trees and flower budding out all over the city, not to mention in my garden. It was a picture perfect spring day.

My cousin lives in Maine and loves it there. My sister-in-law lives in Seattle, Washington. They are very happy living there. I am not sure I get why you'd think living in these states would be conducive to wanting to commit suicide.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on March 30, 2013, 08:51:10 PM
I think that Dr assisted would be tough thing to deal with on both ends, if one did have that choice. That is why blasting yourself in the head is so popular, it's just over. Like that Belcher deal in Kansas City. To me, he did the right thing. He had a beef with his girl, unfortunately killed her. It was his own choice, don't get me wrong. When he went to Arrowhead, at least he apologized for some shit and took himself out instead of harming others.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Skorp1o on April 23, 2014, 09:33:55 AM
so who here has been contemplating suicide recently?

NEVER

Life is able to give us a very rough ride at times, just suck it up and keep going, whats fixable try and fix, whats not try and forget.

Only time I would consider suicide is if I catch a terminal illness and it gets to that point where I see a shitty short/medium term future ahead and being dependent, in pain...etc. I would choose to bow out and quit whilst Im ahead.....I would be called a cruel person if I let my dog die in pain for days and weeks on end when he has no hope of recovery...why should I not award myself the same dignified and humane outcome for this situation.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Skorp1o on April 23, 2014, 09:42:15 AM
imagine the shame on your family when the coroner measures your arm at less than 18"

I haven't thought about it that way

That's just emotionally burtal to take in.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: snx on April 23, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
NEVER

Life is able to give us a very rough ride at times, just suck it up and keep going, whats fixable try and fix, whats not try and forget.

Only time I would consider suicide is if I catch a terminal illness and it gets to that point where I see a shitty short/medium term future ahead and being dependent, in pain...etc. I would choose to bow out and quit whilst Im ahead.....I would be called a cruel person if I let my dog die in pain for days and weeks on end when he has no hope of recovery...why should I not award myself the same dignified and humane outcome for this situation.

Agreed.

Euthanasia, for all it's conjecture, has a place in society.

Was it not honorable for the Samurai to commit seppuku? Of course it was, rather than bring dishonor and shame to their house.

In that vein, it should be a man's choice to take an honorable death in the way he sees fit.

And if it were a physical illness, then I would like to bow out gracefully on my own dime, in my own time.

I would like to think I would have my family's support on this one.

But I can honestly say, if I had a terminal illness that was crippling my body with unbridled pain, and my daughter said to me "daddy, I just want you to stay alive as long as you can", then I would grit my teeth through every last one of my agonizing days to fulfill her wish and give her every minute I could. It would only be with full support of those I love and care about, that I would then consider euthanasia. In this way, I can stick handle around the idea of selfishness. Those who I did not consult, were people whose opinion did not matter to me enough to tip a life-and-death decision. They can rant and rave all they like. I'll be dead, and I won't care when I'm buried and gone. And my family will have understood the risks in supporting the decision, if it were to be so. This is something we would most definitely discuss and take our time with.

If even one person decides they don't like it, then I'm going to live out whatever days my broken body will give me.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Rami on April 23, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
I don't see a point to actively end one's life, it will happen later whether you like it or not, life is not that long for anyone.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: TheDragonSlayer on April 23, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
NEVER

Life is able to give us a very rough ride at times, just suck it up and keep going, whats fixable try and fix, whats not try and forget.

Only time I would consider suicide is if I catch a terminal illness and it gets to that point where I see a shitty short/medium term future ahead and being dependent, in pain...etc. I would choose to bow out and quit whilst Im ahead.....I would be called a cruel person if I let my dog die in pain for days and weeks on end when he has no hope of recovery...why should I not award myself the same dignified and humane outcome for this situation.

Why don't you do us all a favor and jump off a cliff, you steaming cow turd? Be sure there are many nice sharp rocks at the bottom to get you nice and shredded. 8)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wolfrittner on April 23, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
Only if I would have to be in a room with Uncle junior!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Skorp1o on April 23, 2014, 11:32:44 AM
Only if I would have to be in a room with Uncle junior!

That will probably end in murder with you being the culprit lol
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: TheShape. on April 23, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
I would never do it because how bad it would hurt others around me, that and my life is great. I'm a muscular, straight, white male that lives in the fucking United States Of America, I won the jackpot!  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: D.O.U.P on April 23, 2014, 04:24:38 PM
Agreed. My mother tried to kill herself in so many ways unsuccessfully. It was all about the drama and getting attention. Her chest was a spiderweb of scars from all the times she superficially stabbed herself over the years.

One time she called me on the phone and asked me to hold the line while she stabbed herself in the chest with a Hari-Kari style letter opener. In the background I could hear her screaming at my preteen sisters to get something for the blood....and then the phone went dead. My wife and I drove across the San Fernando valley in L.A. in record time only to discover the neighbor had called an ambulance and she had been taken to Encino hospital. When we arrived at the hospital and entered the front doors we could hear her yelling not to call the police. The hospital staff already had called them. I walked into her hospital room and just glared at her in disgust.

Though out most of my childhood I lived with this crazy woman who was my mother and who I loved dearly. I cannot tell you here how many harrowing experiences I endured as a kid growing up where she was bent on killing herself. There were times when she was drunk out of her mind and driving 90 mph on surface streets while ranting that her life was too hard to endure, while I sat in the passenger seat scared shitless that this was the end for me too.

I know first hand how devastating it is to live with someone who suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. What fascinates me today is how when she was dying from emphysema as a result of smoking endless packs of cigarettes every day since her teenage years, she fought like hell to stay alive. The will to live is a powerful thing. My mother came back from the dead several times in the last three years of her life. She ended up committing suicide by cigarettes when she was only 61 years old. Although I miss her, I was so well prepared over a lifetime of false attempts to end her own live, that I felt a sense of relief when she finally succeeded in accomplishing what she had for so long tried to accomplish.

Heavy.

Insightful.

Frustrating.

Great post.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: wolfrittner on April 23, 2014, 07:09:31 PM
That will probably end in murder with you being the culprit lol
Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: snx on April 23, 2014, 10:06:32 PM
Agreed. My mother tried to kill herself in so many ways unsuccessfully. It was all about the drama and getting attention. Her chest was a spiderweb of scars from all the times she superficially stabbed herself over the years.

One time she called me on the phone and asked me to hold the line while she stabbed herself in the chest with a Hari-Kari style letter opener. In the background I could hear her screaming at my preteen sisters to get something for the blood....and then the phone went dead. My wife and I drove across the San Fernando valley in L.A. in record time only to discover the neighbor had called an ambulance and she had been taken to Encino hospital. When we arrived at the hospital and entered the front doors we could hear her yelling not to call the police. The hospital staff already had called them. I walked into her hospital room and just glared at her in disgust.

Though out most of my childhood I lived with this crazy woman who was my mother and who I loved dearly. I cannot tell you here how many harrowing experiences I endured as a kid growing up where she was bent on killing herself. There were times when she was drunk out of her mind and driving 90 mph on surface streets while ranting that her life was too hard to endure, while I sat in the passenger seat scared shitless that this was the end for me too.

I know first hand how devastating it is to live with someone who suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. What fascinates me today is how when she was dying from emphysema as a result of smoking endless packs of cigarettes every day since her teenage years, she fought like hell to stay alive. The will to live is a powerful thing. My mother came back from the dead several times in the last three years of her life. She ended up committing suicide by cigarettes when she was only 61 years old. Although I miss her, I was so well prepared over a lifetime of false attempts to end her own live, that I felt a sense of relief when she finally succeeded in accomplishing what she had for so long tried to accomplish.

Wow. Sorry I missed this the first time.

Prime - that's a hell of an upbringing.

For better or worse, our parents shape us in interesting ways, no?

Glad you're here, all the same.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: BigRo on April 23, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
No, I would not consider it. Human life is a precious opportunity for self realization. One will just reincarnate back in worse circumstances if they commit suicide, unless they are already enlightened.

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: The Ugly on April 24, 2014, 02:53:47 AM
No, I would not consider it. Human life is a precious opportunity for self realization. One will just reincarnate back in worse circumstances if they commit suicide, unless they are already enlightened.



Ah, a McBuddhist.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Skorp1o on April 24, 2014, 03:05:18 AM
Agreed. My mother tried to kill herself in so many ways unsuccessfully. It was all about the drama and getting attention. Her chest was a spiderweb of scars from all the times she superficially stabbed herself over the years.

One time she called me on the phone and asked me to hold the line while she stabbed herself in the chest with a Hari-Kari style letter opener. In the background I could hear her screaming at my preteen sisters to get something for the blood....and then the phone went dead. My wife and I drove across the San Fernando valley in L.A. in record time only to discover the neighbor had called an ambulance and she had been taken to Encino hospital. When we arrived at the hospital and entered the front doors we could hear her yelling not to call the police. The hospital staff already had called them. I walked into her hospital room and just glared at her in disgust.

Though out most of my childhood I lived with this crazy woman who was my mother and who I loved dearly. I cannot tell you here how many harrowing experiences I endured as a kid growing up where she was bent on killing herself. There were times when she was drunk out of her mind and driving 90 mph on surface streets while ranting that her life was too hard to endure, while I sat in the passenger seat scared shitless that this was the end for me too.

I know first hand how devastating it is to live with someone who suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. What fascinates me today is how when she was dying from emphysema as a result of smoking endless packs of cigarettes every day since her teenage years, she fought like hell to stay alive. The will to live is a powerful thing. My mother came back from the dead several times in the last three years of her life. She ended up committing suicide by cigarettes when she was only 61 years old. Although I miss her, I was so well prepared over a lifetime of false attempts to end her own live, that I felt a sense of relief when she finally succeeded in accomplishing what she had for so long tried to accomplish.

Fuck me, I shed a tear.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Super Natural on April 24, 2014, 03:24:29 AM
Something to think about...In the case of anyone who is married or has kids and commits suicide: Highly likely your life insurance will not pay out to them (in the case of suicide)... so often the poor kids and widow left behind are fucked too  :-\
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 24, 2014, 04:38:34 AM
Something to think about...In the case of anyone who is married or has kids and commits suicide: Highly likely your life insurance will not pay out to them (in the case of suicide)... so often the poor kids and widow left behind are fucked too  :-\
i'm sure money is the last thing on suicidal person mind ::)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 24, 2014, 05:12:07 AM
It seems pretty challenging to archieve true happyness in this confused and over-complicated world, so I believe it's best to live a simple life without too much distractions, together with the ones you love, but... even this humble goal isn't easy to archieve :-\

This having said, it sometimes pops up in my mind...

Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 24, 2014, 05:14:10 AM
It seems pretty challenging to archieve true happyness in this confused and over-complicated world, so I believe it's best to live a simple life without too much distractions, together with the ones you love, but... even this humble goal isn't easy to archieve :-\

This having said, it sometimes pops up in my mind...


i'm considering it now that i am having to go back to work on monday  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: hrspwr1 on April 24, 2014, 05:27:15 AM
I have struggled with suicidal thoughts for over thirty years, it sucks. Some folks just have different shit going on in their brains than most people, its not that unusual.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 24, 2014, 05:28:12 AM
i'm considering it now that i am having to go back to work on monday

Which is understandable, since most people hate their job. But keep in mind that your mindset plays an important role. You can make an eternal hell of it, or see it as a temporary phase while making the necessary steps to a satisfying job.
Let that be your goal...
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 24, 2014, 05:30:18 AM
Which is understandable, since most people hate their job. But keep in mind that your mindset plays an important role. You can make an eternal hell of it, or see it as a temporary phase while making the necessary steps to a satisfying job.
Let that be your goal...
while not realistic in many case, this is a good thing to tell yourself ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 24, 2014, 05:36:09 AM
while not realistic in many case, this is a good thing to tell yourself ;D

I can't speak for others, but why do you think that? Many of us have certain passions.
You, for example, can become a Hair Guru ;D
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: _bruce_ on April 24, 2014, 05:36:56 AM
Of course - many times.
But still have some things to accomplish.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Super Natural on April 24, 2014, 07:00:15 AM
i'm sure money is the last thing on suicidal person mind ::)

 ::) 1000's of people commit suicide because of money. The point was life insurnace will not pay out TO YOUR NEXT OF KIN in the event of suicide.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Skorp1o on April 24, 2014, 07:07:53 AM
Something to think about...In the case of anyone who is married or has kids and commits suicide: Highly likely your life insurance will not pay out to them (in the case of suicide)... so often the poor kids and widow left behind are fucked too  :-\

I have two life policies on my head right now. Both will pay for suicide as long that its not committed within the 12 months from starting the insurance. I'm in the UK so not sure about policies in your neck of the woods...etc.


Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Tapeworm on April 24, 2014, 07:24:24 AM
I have two life policies on my head right now. Both will pay for suicide as long that its not committed within the 12 months from starting the insurance. I'm in the UK so not sure about policies in your neck of the woods...etc.




That's actually pretty cool.  So how many more months do you need to wait?
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Skorp1o on April 24, 2014, 07:28:50 AM
That's actually pretty cool.  So how many more months do you need to wait?

The personal life insurance is about £300k, I had this for a long while, so if "I dead" today the listed beneficiary will get £300k, this also includes jumping under a train purposely, seeing as it is the most common form of suicide in London amongst city workers.

I also have a 4 times salary life insurance from work, this isn't 12 months old yet.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: breakmore on April 24, 2014, 08:56:49 AM
Never say never.
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 24, 2014, 03:27:24 PM
I can't speak for others, but why do you think that? Many of us have certain passions.
You, for example, can become a Hair Guru ;D

Bold people like Leopold should pay 1/3 of my monthly hair cut cost $30-50  :)
Title: Re: Suicide - would you ever consider it?
Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 24, 2014, 04:27:04 PM
Statistically I read that 100% of people that kill themselves don't regret it.