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Title: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 07, 2007, 03:27:40 PM
Emmm, I've kind of been watching the getbig boards for a while and don't usually leave any comments. Everyone here knows a hell of a lot more than I do etc. My friend has convinced me to post a few pictures about

Started training on 24th April 07. I managed to get through that and training picked up. I did interval training most mornings before breakfast, sometimes having to fit it in at 4am and was in the weights room every afternoon, along with the diet.

My weights in the main lifts at the beginning:
Bench: 45kg 4x5
Squat: 50kg 5x3
Deadlift:85kg 3x3

My weights 12 weeks later:
Bench: 95kg 5x5
Squat: 135kg 5x3
Deadlift: 182.5kg 3x3

Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 07, 2007, 03:29:17 PM
8 weeks later
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Blockhead on December 07, 2007, 03:30:44 PM
 
 COLOSSAL beer belly! Do you mix your shakes with Miller Lite? Did the crew from 'Jackass' buzz the back of your head?

 Welcome to THUNDERDOME, bitch!



 In all seriousness...you did a good job!  8)
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 07, 2007, 03:33:04 PM
12 weeks
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Post by: tommywishbone on December 07, 2007, 03:37:10 PM
Where the fck did you find that vintage 1972 locker room? That place looks sweet!
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Post by: figgs on December 07, 2007, 03:40:04 PM
Great work. Nice squat bruise. Enjoy a whole new life experience.
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Post by: dov on December 07, 2007, 03:43:32 PM
very nice job...any assistance in the form of gear??
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Post by: kh300 on December 07, 2007, 03:44:36 PM
good for you dude..good story to hear..lifting  keeps you focused on a goal, and away from the shit life throws at you.. thats the good side of bodybuilding, not like the fags you see these days prancing onstage.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The True Adonis on December 07, 2007, 03:45:29 PM
VERY good job.

This perhaps may be the mark of ending delusionality for yourself.  Don`t get too involved with bodybuilding or you will be worse off than previous when you were suffering the aforementioned mental illness.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Ursus on December 07, 2007, 03:48:48 PM
May i add i know this guy personally and i trained with him every day for the 12 weeks. Guys a mate of mine.

awesome job ben!

also no assistance at all from gear
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 07, 2007, 03:49:00 PM
I hope to compete in another few PL comps in the next few years and maybe do a bit of BB on the side. All comments and constructive criticism appreciated
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 07, 2007, 03:55:27 PM
As Goudy says, it's all natural. I'm in a drug tested PL federation now as well. I think I mentioned that above somewhere.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 07, 2007, 04:00:09 PM
Again, great job..always remember, treat your body well...put only good things into it. Our bodies and what it encompasses are our only true posessions in life. Sure, we own cars, homes, etc... but these material things come and go. Most people take better care of their cars than their own damn bodies.. it's sickening..few are truely in touch with themselves today..I have every confidence in the world that you will only do good things for yourself and your body for the rest of your life.. it's an honor to have you as an Iron Brother..welcome!
p.s. you look exactly like a brother of mine..
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on December 07, 2007, 04:02:12 PM
Emmm, I've kind of been watching the getbig boards for a while and don't usually leave any comments. Everyone here knows a hell of a lot more than I do etc. My friend has convinced me to post a few pictures about my progress though.

This is my story...from the age of 13 I've had severe mental illness, this cleared up after a year or so and everything seemed ok. There were a few stumbling blocks along the way, I won't get into it too much. During my last few years at high school, alcohol became more of a vice for me. After high school I went away travelling and began drinking a hell of a lot. Usually at least a litre of vodka a day. Bear in mind I was only 18 at this stage, so waking up to a pint of raw vodka wasn't a good sign. So, as would be expected, my health went to shit. I came home from travelling, ended up going to the gym one day and met up with a couple of friends there. I said I wanted to get training and one of my mates, who's a personal trainer suggested I do the body for life. I know at this point a whole lot of you will probably sigh and shake your heads and think I'm a body for life loser. Bear with me.

A few days later the training started, this was on 24th April 07. The hardest thing at the start wasn't the training, but the lack of drink. I got the shakes, headaches and a whole lot of other shit. I managed to get through that and training picked up. I did interval training most mornings before breakfast, sometimes having to fit it in at 4am and was in the weights room every afternoon, along with the diet.

My weights in the main lifts at the beginning:
Bench: 45kg 4x5
Squat: 50kg 5x3
Deadlift:85kg 3x3

My weights 12 weeks later:
Bench: 95kg 5x5
Squat: 135kg 5x3
Deadlift: 182.5kg 3x3

By the end of the 12 weeks I'd dropped around 42lb of fat and managed to put on around 25lb of muscle. Here are the pictures: (These are before by the way) ;D

Hahahah no no no my good man. If you have turned to bodybuilding your mental illness has not cleared up. It has silently moved to stage 2.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 07, 2007, 04:08:54 PM
Where the fck did you find that vintage 1972 locker room? That place looks sweet!

I think you mean 1961! Ha ha. That's Centaur in Belfast city centre, NI. It's like 47 years old, all the same equipment, plates orginally painted in Belfast shipyard. I don't think any of the weights are calibrated, all thick bars with no bend. No heating and the showers smell like shit. It's awesome ;D
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Post by: _bruce_ on December 07, 2007, 04:18:14 PM
Such progress in such a short time... extremely fishy?  ;D
Good job!
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Post by: dov on December 07, 2007, 04:21:34 PM
If you truely had no "assistance"...then take the suspicions as a major compliment.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 07, 2007, 04:24:54 PM
seriously man good job in overcoming your problem and getting into great shape, awesome story.
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Post by: bigbobs on December 07, 2007, 04:26:00 PM
Stop for the Nasser-Mobile...passing through!

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Post by: Deadpool on December 07, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
you're just twelve steps away from your next drink  ;)
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Army of One on December 07, 2007, 04:29:48 PM
Great Job! Although its complete Bullshit you dropped that much fat and gained that much muscle in that short a period, easily on something, its not even a debate.But you did a great transformation.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Emmortal on December 07, 2007, 04:33:12 PM
He's still in his teens, why would he need to be on something?  He's got enough testosterone going in his system that guys 10 years older than him would have to be on cycle just to compare with.

Congrats, you've got good genetics and a decent build, cheers.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: emn1964 on December 07, 2007, 04:38:13 PM
Great Job! Although its complete Bullshit you dropped that much fat and gained that much muscle in that short a period, easily on something, its not even a debate.But you did a great transformation.

Well done burn.  Great to hear that the power of the Iron has comforted you and guided you on the right path.

db--Are you saying that burn is not natural?  certainly looks natural to me.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Army of One on December 07, 2007, 04:38:51 PM
He's still in his teens, why would he need to be on something?  He's got enough testosterone going in his system that guys 10 years older than him would have to be on cycle just to compare with.

Congrats, you've got good genetics and a decent build, cheers.

Scientific studies have proven for a natural the most that can be gained in a YEAR is 18 pounds of muscle, thats with a caloric Surplus, constant training and on a genetic ELITE.People will come in and say "well I gained 40 pounds in a year!," well you probably gained 12 pounds of muscle, 20 pounds of fat and 8 pounds of water, unless you are on hormones, but thats a different discussion.This guy breaks all records and gains 25 pounds of Muscle no less, while losing 42 pounds of fat, while in a caloric defecit and all in 3 months  ::) .
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Army of One on December 07, 2007, 04:39:56 PM
Well done burn.  Great to hear that the power of the Iron has comforted you and guided you on the right path.

db--Are you saying that burn is not natural?  certainly looks natural to me.

It isnt how he looks, its the timeframe and way he says he did it.He looks great, taking nothing away from the great job he did, but people need to learn to use some common sense.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Deadpool on December 07, 2007, 04:40:30 PM
good pictures good progress

visible results

ps work your hams.  do walking lunges and deads
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: emn1964 on December 07, 2007, 04:41:02 PM
Scientific studies have proven for a natural the most that can be gained in a YEAR is 18 pounds of muscle, thats with a caloric Surplus, constant training and on a genetic ELITE.People will come in and say "well I gained 40 pounds in a year!," well you probably gained 12 pounds of muscle, 20 pounds of fat and 8 pounds of water, unless you are on hormones, but thats a different discussion.This guy breaks all records and gains 25 pounds of Muscle no less, while losing 42 pounds of fat, while in a caloric defecit and all in 3 months  ::) .

okay, then cite those studies.  sounds like you are just making up shit.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Deadpool on December 07, 2007, 04:47:16 PM
42.5 percent of internet posts contain made up shit.  ;)
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Army of One on December 07, 2007, 04:48:28 PM
okay, then cite those studies.  sounds like you are just making up shit.

The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that “because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day.” In non-complicated, mathematical terms, this would equate to roughly 23 pounds in a year! Keep in mind that high-level athletes are the subjects of these studies.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: tweeter on December 07, 2007, 04:50:40 PM
Epic G Unit jeans...great job though man, keep up the good work
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Deadpool on December 07, 2007, 04:51:21 PM
what was the age group in the test study?
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Post by: mar10s on December 07, 2007, 04:57:08 PM
Wow, you've done a great job!  Congrats on all the hard work!
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Deadpool on December 07, 2007, 04:58:36 PM
seriously just quitting drinking is the best thing for you in the long run

working out moves your focus from negative to positive
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: emn1964 on December 07, 2007, 05:03:57 PM
The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that “because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day.” In non-complicated, mathematical terms, this would equate to roughly 23 pounds in a year! Keep in mind that high-level athletes are the subjects of these studies.

hahahahaha...you beleive everything you read?  "Leading sport nutritionist"  according to who?  Colgan.  OMG...you had me going there for a minute.  He's just another quack with something to sell.  "Institute"  hahahahahahahaha..omg, this is just precious
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Emmortal on December 07, 2007, 05:26:49 PM
I'd have to agree, that guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: bmuscle90 on December 07, 2007, 06:13:53 PM
Very good build and progress.  Keep lifting and eating good.  A lot of people will assume you take stuff because many dont understand what hard work is.  Most probably are jealous.  They will tell you to take drugs just to gain 10 pounds.  Watch out for stupid advice.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 07, 2007, 06:43:20 PM
Very good build and progress.  Keep lifting and eating good.  A lot of people will assume you take stuff because many dont understand what hard work is.  Most probably are jealous.  They will tell you to take drugs just to gain 10 pounds.  Watch out for stupid advice.
Dude put on 25lbs of muscle WHILE losing 45lbs of fat.

Extremely good progress regardless. And those lifts are extremely impressive for someone who has only trained for 7 months - and is still a teen!
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Post by: LatsMcGee on December 07, 2007, 10:38:22 PM
Awesome job bro.  Keep up the good work and take care of those joints with all that heavy lifting.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 08, 2007, 08:37:11 AM
excellent progress. My guess is that u lifted before...def not a beginner...also that u went on aas and fatburners. Good job and lifts. Keep going.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 08:38:09 AM
excellent progress. My guess is that u lifted before...def not a beginner...also that u went on aas and fatburners. Good job and lifts. Keep going.
hahahahaha, looks like you've been humbled by your time in Time Out, hahahaa, what a little bitch.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 08, 2007, 08:39:36 AM
The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that “because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day.” In non-complicated, mathematical terms, this would equate to roughly 23 pounds in a year! Keep in mind that high-level athletes are the subjects of these studies.
I read Mr Colgans studies extensively about 10 years ago and that's where I learned a lot of the things I'm now femiliar with. Great stuff. I recommend his " optimum anabolic " book.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 08, 2007, 08:41:22 AM
hahahahaha, looks like you've been humbled by your time in Time Out, hahahaa, what a little bitch.
I do not want to be 36 skinny fat with sticks for legs and rip on others who look better than me ;) ...so I preffer to offer constructive criticism
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 08:42:53 AM
I do not want to be 36 skinny fat with sticks for legs and rip on others who look better than me ;) ...so I preffer to offer constructive criticism
hahahahaa, ok chemo victim, i'll gaurantee you one of my quads is as big as your waist, my calves are admittedly lagging. :D
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 08, 2007, 08:44:30 AM
hahahahaha, looks like you've been humbled by your time in Time Out, hahahaa, what a little bitch.

What do you think Squad, can a beginner put on 25lbs of muscle in 12 weeks while losing 45lbs of fat without assistance?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: emn1964 on December 08, 2007, 08:45:37 AM
I read Mr Colgans studies extensively about 10 years ago and that's where I learned a lot of the things I'm now femiliar with. Great stuff. I recommend his " optimum anabolic " book.

If your body is a result of what you learned from Colgan's book then Colgan must be a quack.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 08:45:59 AM
What do you think Squad, can a beginner put on 25lbs of muscle in 12 weeks while losing 45lbs of fat without assistance?
helllllllzzzzzz no.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 08, 2007, 09:03:42 AM
good pictures good progress

visible results

ps work your hams.  do walking lunges and deads

Cheers man, thanks for the advice. I don't do walking lunges, but i do a lot of deads and goodmornings
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: beatmaster on December 08, 2007, 09:14:06 AM

look good, what did you used?
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Post by: Earl1972 on December 08, 2007, 09:19:46 AM
very impressive

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Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 08, 2007, 09:22:10 AM
Thanks to everyone for their positive comments and encouragement  :) It's really appreciated. I thought I'd get absolutely shredded by the getbig guys after posting this  :-\
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 08, 2007, 09:26:40 AM
U made great progress and u deserve the acollades . but you def used gear . There are a lot of people here who realize just what u can and what u cannot natural . U def used aas and fatburners and I believe u lifted before. 550 dead in 7 months training as a beginner natural ....not even if you are nick winters type talent without gear. But u are in a drug tested fed and I understand u ;) . excellent transformation nonetheless.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The True Adonis on December 08, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
Thanksman

AAs, NO. Fatburners, yes, I was on CLA for the last 3 weeks of the 12.

To be honest I was expecting a lot worse than the comments I've had so far. I thought I'd be torn apart for my physique, that's why I took some convincing in posting this.

I'm surprised that the fat loss  muscle gain etc is an issue, I thought most people wouldn't believe I'm pulling an easy 550lb deadlift. Most people I know would have said that was pretty much impossible for seven months training. Also, take into account I was drinking a shit load everyday and my testosterone would have been seriously supressed. Take away the alcohol and I'm guessing my natural levels probably overshot for a while, before levelling off again. That's one reason I consider. Another thing, since getting fitter, my mental wellbeing has increased and my shrink decided to decrease my antidepressants, which had also supressed my natural testosterone. I forgot to mention that during these 12 weeks my whole life was orientated around doing everything as perfectly as possible to get the best possible natural gains, eating, sleeping, training, everything else took a back seat for those 12 weeks

At the end of the day, if people don't believe I'm natural I'll take it as a compliment. I certainly don't look that good and I would have to be dumb as fuck to be using gear at the age of 19 and just starting lifting. Also, I'd have to be extra dumb to register with a drug tested PL federation that can test me anytime all year round...

What matters to me anyway is I'm not pissing my life down the drain anymore and I thought this would maybe give everyone an alternative view on why some people turn to the gym

I will now yield an integral sliver of advice since you are at a critical juncture.....Bodybuildin g and Powerlifting are fruitless pursuits and you SHOULD NOT rely on them for anything and they should solely be treated as an alternate spare-time activity.  Nothing more.  You have a character makeup of an individual that clings to extremes on the spectrum of compulsivity.  I see this has already infected you as you stated that your complete life was tailored around this quixotic pursuit.

These new-found and fresh activities of yours should not be given so much importance.  You are now at the banks of the Rubicon.  Do not cross it.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 08, 2007, 09:52:11 AM
If I took AAs I'd look a HELL of a lot better. Look at the evidence, I think most people would agree that those pictures are definitely not those of a gear user
Why would you look much better with gear? What are you basing this on, since you say you haven't ever used the stuff? What does one look like after "using 'gear' for 3 months". Would you have gained 45lbs of muscle instead? What? Most gear users in your situation would have looked much worse, with much much worse muscle gains/fat loss.

You do not put on 25lbs of muscle while being in a deficit that allows you to lose 45lbs of fat without hormones.

I was one who said that your lifts were extremely impressive. That's a 550lb dead, raw, as a teen, after training 7 months. I don't know of a single case where this has been equaled clean. Was it a record breaking lift in your fed?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 08, 2007, 10:06:16 AM
I know I would look better if I took gear, because I know that I did this naturally. If I took gear I would be a lot bigger. What, in your opinion would be "normal natural" gains in this case then?
In most cases you would be lucky to even maintain all your lean mass. Sure, beginners sometimes manage to put on a bit of LBM while shedding some fat, it's a known phenomenon - 45lbs of fat is a hell of a lot to lose though while putting on that much muscle. Most gear users would have trouble with that.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: danielson on December 08, 2007, 10:07:25 AM
Nice work dude. You should celebrate with a few drinks.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: danielson on December 08, 2007, 10:09:54 AM
Yeh, I've joked about that myself!  ;D Only problem is I wouldn't stop celebrating :-\

Why stop? You can look great and still drink 5 to 6 nights a week. Don't be a quitter dude.  ;D
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Ursus on December 08, 2007, 11:58:26 AM
Sev i train with the guy.

guy is natural. id put my life on it.

to clarify about teh muscle fast loss etc.

i think ben was 227lbs at around 25-30% bodyfat

got to i dunno 220 at id say around 6-7%

do the maths.

obviously when i talk about muscle i talk about the water weight and the glycogen etc all in teh muscles ect. not just the pure fibers etc.

also teh guy who trains us is a genuius.

ben deserves all the credit he gets
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
::)
for once i agree with you.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Ursus on December 08, 2007, 12:07:56 PM
dude was well fat got well lean

sorry i think his weight was around 210 or summat i dont remember exactly. ben can fill u in.

thing is he lost a shit load of fat and it would be stupid to say he only lost 14lb of it e.g
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: theworm on December 08, 2007, 12:52:10 PM
look better, but still does not look like you lift at all.  Just lost some body fat.

Advice:  GET a JOB! and move out of that horrible basement.  Looks like you are living in a Harlem appartment with rent being 50 bucks a month.  Good luck bringing a girl back there, I wouldn;t even walk around barefoot in that place.  seriously, job time, and BB should be a hobby.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 12:55:43 PM
look better, but still does not look like you lift at all.  Just lost some body fat.

Advice:  GET a JOB! and move out of that horrible basement.  Looks like you are living in a Harlem appartment with rent being 50 bucks a month.  Good luck bringing a girl back there, I wouldn;t even walk around barefoot in that place.  seriously, job time, and BB should be a hobby.
you sound like a hater to me, if you think he looks "like he doesn't lift at all" here then you're high as a kite.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Ursus on December 08, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
theworm do you have a pic?

SF props for givoing credit where due
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 08, 2007, 12:59:32 PM
look better, but still does not look like you lift at all.  Just lost some body fat.

How stupid can one be? He has a verified 550lb pull. Do you think he did that with no muscle?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 12:59:58 PM
theworm do you have a pic?

SF props for givoing credit where due
i always give credit where it's due, to say that he looks like he doesn't lift is the stupidist thing i've ever heard, the kid has A LOT of muscle.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 08, 2007, 01:10:22 PM
i always give credit where it's due, to say that he looks like he doesn't lift is the stupidist thing i've ever heard, the kid has A LOT of muscle.
...so much muscle, many are questioning aas...theworm may be drunk himself
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: musclehedz on December 08, 2007, 02:07:18 PM
the kid has A LOT of muscle.

Not really, however he made awesome gains. He will probably get there, just be consistent. Don't expect huge gains anymore after 1 year of training. It will go dead slowly.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 08, 2007, 03:20:56 PM
Sev i train with the guy.

guy is natural. id put my life on it.

to clarify about teh muscle fast loss etc.

i think ben was 227lbs at around 25-30% bodyfat

got to i dunno 220 at id say around 6-7%

do the maths.


obviously when i talk about muscle i talk about the water weight and the glycogen etc all in teh muscles ect. not just the pure fibers etc.

also teh guy who trains us is a genuius.

ben deserves all the credit he gets

 ::)
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 08, 2007, 03:28:47 PM
Ben looks great but his level of progress seems extremely beyond what one would expect given his natural status in 7 weeks
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 08, 2007, 03:37:34 PM
::)
based on these starting/to date #'s...this means:
21% drop in body fat %
49 lbs. of fat dropped
42 lbs. of muscle gained

All in 7 weeks???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I did the maths
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: danielson on December 08, 2007, 03:40:08 PM
based on these starting/to date #'s...this means:
21% drop in body fat %
49 lbs. of fat dropped
42 lbs. of muscle gained

All in 7 weeks???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I did the maths

Those are decent numbers, but one time I put on 89 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks while losing 76 pounds of fat. So I am not too impressed.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 08, 2007, 03:42:01 PM
Those are decent numbers, but one time I put on 89 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks while losing 76 pounds of fat. So I am not too impressed.
haha..yeah.."decent" #'s
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: danielson on December 08, 2007, 03:45:16 PM
haha..yeah.."decent" #'s

You ever get a hot date on a Saturday and say it's like Thursday already and you have 2 days to shape up? I  like to put on about 15 pounds of muscle and lose 15 pounds of fat in those 2 days, it doesn't seem like much, but you can really see the difference if you are paying attention.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 08, 2007, 03:47:42 PM
You ever get a hot date on a Saturday and say it's like Thursday already and you have 2 days to shape up? I  like to put on about 15 pounds of muscle and lose 15 pounds of fat in those 2 days, it doesn't seem like much, but you can really see the difference if you are paying attention.
LOL..yeah they make it sound pretty easy
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: theworm on December 08, 2007, 03:51:38 PM
the worm does not care what others think.  Ok, he may look like he occasionally lifts at the local "y," but by no means is this anything impressive at all.  

My point was this:  First, get a job, this would lead to money.  Money would lead to a better appartment, better haircut, and a life.

So to recap:  Get a job, then have BB as a hobby.  

If you are ok with severe poverty, ignore this message.  There is no future for you in bodybuilding, McDonalds pays better.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 08, 2007, 03:52:41 PM
I am about to hit the gym and put 2 inch on my arms..should be easy enough
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on December 08, 2007, 03:53:22 PM
I am about to hit the gym and put 2 inch on my arms..should be easy enough
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/dog_humping_pig.jpg)
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: theworm on December 08, 2007, 03:55:00 PM
http://sportsbybrooks.com/MP2556.html
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 08, 2007, 03:56:09 PM
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/dog_humping_pig.jpg)
Dude..what is it with you and the animals?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Army of One on December 08, 2007, 04:07:30 PM
In most cases you would be lucky to even maintain all your lean mass. Sure, beginners sometimes manage to put on a bit of LBM while shedding some fat, it's a known phenomenon - 45lbs of fat is a hell of a lot to lose though while putting on that much muscle. Most gear users would have trouble with that.

based on these starting/to date #'s...this means:
21% drop in body fat %
49 lbs. of fat dropped
42 lbs. of muscle gained

All in 7 weeks???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I did the maths


Sevestase hit the nail on the head, guy is in a drug tested Federation but is also proud of his change, and rightly so.I really have to question anyone that believes this was aided without aas and some VERY potent Fatburners.This is also the 2nd time Ive seen Goudy endorse a guy who has gained 30 pounds of muscle in 12 weeks while shedding 30 pounds of fat, saying he trains with him and he is natural,tells me all I need to know about Goudys "Natural" status.We all know this type of guy, the type that gains 30 pounds of muscle in 10 weeks and then goes on to say it was the new Creatine he takes and Branch Chained Aminos  ::) , then says his buddy uses it too who gained 40 pounds of bloat and muscle in 8 weeks, while gaining some severe bacne.I have no problem with AAS use, I do have a problem with the constant lying about natural status which gives newcomers unrealistic expectations, and sets any level ground for learning about natural growth back 50 years.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dov on December 08, 2007, 04:19:31 PM
not at all diminishing his achievements and turnaround in life...few posts back def let that be known..but, these #'s are rediculous..maybe the person taking measurements is drinkin that litre of Vodka now
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 07:39:21 PM
Not really, however he made awesome gains. He will probably get there, just be consistent. Don't expect huge gains anymore after 1 year of training. It will go dead slowly.
post a picture of yourself and show us all what a real muscleman looks like then.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 08, 2007, 07:44:13 PM
not at all diminishing his achievements and turnaround in life...few posts back def let that be known..but, these #'s are rediculous..maybe the person taking measurements is drinkin that litre of Vodka now

I don't recall anybody asking for your opinion.

STFU noob.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 08, 2007, 07:56:18 PM
based on these starting/to date #'s...this means:
21% drop in body fat %
49 lbs. of fat dropped
42 lbs. of muscle gained

All in 7 weeks???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I did the maths
This is better than the "Colorado Experiment"  :D
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: theworm on December 09, 2007, 08:35:49 AM
I think you're on the wrong forum. Last time I checked this was a bodybuilding forum, I think you're looking along the lines of something like queer eye for the straight guy with your haircut and apartment comments.  ;D Apartment is in italics, because you spelt it wrong. Come back with an education and I might take you seriously  :P

That's right, I must live in severe poverty, that's why there are two black leather sofas in some of the pictures ???  ::)  Don't worry yourself about my lifestyle, I don't intend to base my future in bodybuilding, as I say, I study medicine and I'll be making a shit lot more than you in a few years and unlike you won't waste my time needlessly bashing other people on boards.

I don't know why I'm humouring you, you still haven't come back with half the brains like I told you before

There seems to be some confusion on the timescale, the time between the first pictures and the last pictures taken in my poverty stricken home with two leather sofas and newly fitted blinds was 7 months, not weeks :-\

For arguments sake, say the muscle gain, fat loss numbers were wrong, which personally I think they are. Fair enough, I'm just quoting what people suggested to me and I think that the reaction here has told me those figures are wrong. Would you guys still think I'd used AAs purely based on the pictures? :-\

oh my.  At least I spelled something wrong and did not invent a word that does not exist!  "Spelt" hahaha.  Very smart.

Anyway, I am sure you will make more money than me,,lol.  See the thread where I owned squad. I am already a MD, posted my license and all. 

As KRS-1 said best "don't be mad, cause UPS is hiring." 

Title: Re: Progress
Post by: The Squadfather on December 09, 2007, 08:37:53 AM
oh my.  At least I spelled something wrong and did not invent a word that does not exist!  "Spelt" hahaha.  Very smart.

Anyway, I am sure you will make more money than me,,lol.  See the thread where I owned squad. I am already a MD, posted my license and all. 

As KRS-1 said best "don't be mad, cause UPS is hiring." 


why don't you post a picture and own this guy if you look so good?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on December 09, 2007, 08:38:49 AM
oh my.  At least I spelled something wrong and did not invent a word that does not exist!  "Spelt" hahaha.  Very smart.

 :) good point
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: theworm on December 09, 2007, 08:41:37 AM
good humor burn2live.  Good weight loss though.  If you need any advice on getting into med school, etc, drop me a PM.  good luck with everything.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 09, 2007, 08:42:52 AM
:) good point


what fat burners do you use?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: theworm on December 09, 2007, 08:47:17 AM
great, med school sucked, but residency is much better.  longer hours, but finally doing what you want to be doing.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: EL Mariachi on December 09, 2007, 09:00:36 AM
Awesome progress, it looks like you have great dedication in anything you do, whether it be lifting or drinking. Its allor nothing mentallity.  But keep in mind, you mentioned how long you ve been off the booze. Never look at it like that, or count the days off the booze. If you do that, you will just count the days till you start again drinking. Like''ive been off for so long its now time to have a beer'' Just say im not drinking anymore, or better yet '' i like to have a healthy body'' Ofcourse a couple of beerd wont hurt now and then, but in your case its better not to drink at all, when you gain bigger selfconfidence and calmness, it will be no problem for you to drink a couple of beers. Just like Huge Nasser said, i drink for the taste of it, not to get drunk. Nasser is a smart man. Make sure you check out his interviews.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 09, 2007, 09:01:32 AM
Calling absolute bullshit on the "only 7 months of training" and "I lost 134 pounds of fat and gained 322 pounds of muscle in three months".

But you look good, and strong deadlift.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: EL Mariachi on December 09, 2007, 09:06:55 AM
I will now yield an integral sliver of advice since you are at a critical juncture.....Bodybuildin g and Powerlifting are fruitless pursuits and you SHOULD NOT rely on them for anything and they should solely be treated as an alternate spare-time activity.  Nothing more.  You have a character makeup of an individual that clings to extremes on the spectrum of compulsivity.  I see this has already infected you as you stated that your complete life was tailored around this quixotic pursuit.

These new-found and fresh activities of yours should not be given so much importance.  You are now at the banks of the Rubicon.  Do not cross it.

I agree with adonis here, you need to have some other hobbies as well, bodybuilders tend to neglect the most important, emotional muscle building, that is the brain.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: dr.chimps on December 09, 2007, 10:31:12 AM
Cheers man, I've just started med school over here in Belfast, NI. Right now, it sucks ass, big time. We're just doing boring theory and the lecturers seem more bored than we are. I've been told it picks up a lot more in the second term with more clinical experience etc
Med school!? LOL. You must have been severely underdiagnosing your (previously cited) problems with mental illness and alcoholism.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: EL Mariachi on December 09, 2007, 11:23:59 AM
Med school!? LOL. You must have been severely underdiagnosing your (previously cited) problems with mental illness and alcoholism.


The guy is full of paradox, the power is strong in this one.
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: Ursus on December 10, 2007, 07:10:57 AM
based on these starting/to date #'s...this means:
21% drop in body fat %
49 lbs. of fat dropped
42 lbs. of muscle gained

All in 7 weeks???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I did the maths

why are people talking i weeks. it took seven months!

to the guy who sauid that this is the 2nd time ive endorsed sumone who made tremendous gains. there is one common denominator.

also, if this is the case and thuis guy is indeed not natural why would i not be making unreal gains myself??????? yet endorsing my friends gains?
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: wisconsinBB on December 10, 2007, 07:15:12 AM
HOLY SHIT, great work man :o
Title: Re: Progress
Post by: burn2live on January 01, 2008, 02:11:32 PM
HOLY SHIT, great work man :o

Thanks man :)