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Title: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 26, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
What a fucking badass: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rand-paul-message-republican-convention-audit-pentagon-230638244.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rand-paul-message-republican-convention-audit-pentagon-230638244.html)

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul will use his prime-time speaking slot at the Republican National Convention to urge party members to be more open to scrutinizing military spending, a position that puts him in the minority within the GOP.

Paul made the remarks Sunday when he addressed thousands of supporters at a rally for his father, former Republican presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul, at the University of South Florida.

"Because we've talked about audit the Fed so much, we're now talking about audit the Pentagon," Paul told the crowd. "Now, because of Hurricane Isaac, it's not sure whether my message will get to the Republican National Convention, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able speak. And one of the messages that I will give to them is that Republicans need to acknowledge that not every dollar is well spent or sacred in the military and we have to look for ways to make every department accountable."

Paul will speak at the convention between 7:00 and 8:00 PM eastern time Tuesday, according to an updated schedule made public Sunday.

Both Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, have vowed to increase defense spending if elected.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 26, 2012, 09:08:23 PM
I'm sure Romney and Ryan plan on doing that as soon as they get into office

don't forget the Republican platform is not the Romney platform

the head of the Republican party told us that

to be specific

what Reince said is

"This is the platform of the Republican Party.  It's not the platform of Mitt Romney."
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 26, 2012, 09:13:56 PM
Are you even literate?
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 26, 2012, 09:49:12 PM
Are you even literate?

I assume this already in the Republican party platform
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Shockwave on August 26, 2012, 09:56:53 PM
Although this would never happen, there is SHIT TONS of waste to be dealt with with regards to defense spending.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 26, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
I assume this already in the Republican party platform


Is there anything about the Republican platform in the article I posted? Is there anything about Romney or Ryan even endorsing the Paul position?

Do you just spew the same bullshit every time you see the words "Republican" and "convention" in the same sentence, regardless of the message or topic of that sentence?
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 27, 2012, 01:05:42 AM
YES!

Good things coming?  8)
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: whork on August 27, 2012, 02:54:42 AM
What a fucking badass: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rand-paul-message-republican-convention-audit-pentagon-230638244.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rand-paul-message-republican-convention-audit-pentagon-230638244.html)

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul will use his prime-time speaking slot at the Republican National Convention to urge party members to be more open to scrutinizing military spending, a position that puts him in the minority within the GOP.

Paul made the remarks Sunday when he addressed thousands of supporters at a rally for his father, former Republican presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul, at the University of South Florida.

"Because we've talked about audit the Fed so much, we're now talking about audit the Pentagon," Paul told the crowd. "Now, because of Hurricane Isaac, it's not sure whether my message will get to the Republican National Convention, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able speak. And one of the messages that I will give to them is that Republicans need to acknowledge that not every dollar is well spent or sacred in the military and we have to look for ways to make every department accountable."

Paul will speak at the convention between 7:00 and 8:00 PM eastern time Tuesday, according to an updated schedule made public Sunday.

Both Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, have vowed to increase defense spending if elected.

I like this guy
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 07:44:05 AM
Is there anything about the Republican platform in the article I posted? Is there anything about Romney or Ryan even endorsing the Paul position?

Do you just spew the same bullshit every time you see the words "Republican" and "convention" in the same sentence, regardless of the message or topic of that sentence?

Rand is such a "fucking badass" for planning on saying something he's said many times before
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 10:52:07 AM
^ No one can be as stupid as you are. I think I finally figured you out: you're 3333's secret handle, created in order to make fun of the left.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Shockwave on August 27, 2012, 02:10:01 PM
^ No one can be as stupid as you are. I think I finally figured you out: you're 3333's secret handle, created in order to make fun of the left.
Lol.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 02:15:24 PM
^ No one can be as stupid as you are. I think I finally figured you out: you're 3333's secret handle, created in order to make fun of the left.

Just laughing about your man crush on Rand for making a speech in front of a friendly audience
You've got a pretty lame standard for a "fucking badass"
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
Just laughing about your man crush on Rand for making a speech in front of a friendly audience
You've got a pretty lame standard for a "fucking badass"

LOL!!!!!


Nothing , absolutely nothing, beats out the cult worship obama voters show.   
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
LOL!!!!!


Nothing , absolutely nothing, beats out the cult worship obama voters show.   

When did I mention Obama ?
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 02:46:22 PM
When did I mention Obama ?

Those in glass houses . . . . . .
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 08:43:37 PM
Those in glass houses . . . . . .

Rand (or Ron) should give us their thoughts on federal agencies like FEMA

if they had the balls

Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 08:46:55 PM
Rand (or Ron) should give us their thoughts on federal agencies like FEMA

if they had the balls



They are against FEMA and those worthless agencies.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
They are against FEMA and those worthless agencies.

I know

they (Rand) should SAY THAT

it shouldn't matter that there is a Hurricane outside

right ?

I mean if they really believe that shit
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 08:49:49 PM
Rand (or Ron) should give us their thoughts on federal agencies like FEMA

if they had the balls



More proof that you're an idiot. You could at least do a 30-second google search to see if you've already been pre-empted:
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 08:51:53 PM

FEMA is a complete waste.

I know

they (Rand) should SAY THAT

it shouldn't matter that there is a Hurricane outside

right ?

I mean if they really believe that shit
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 08:52:37 PM
Ron Paul's problem is that he's constantly dropping truth bombs. Rand Paul has a more polished approach - but that doesn't stop him from (willingly) getting into trouble from time to time:
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 08:53:39 PM
FEMA is a complete waste.


shouldn't Rand Paul be saying that ?
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 08:54:09 PM
shouldn't Rand Paul be saying that ?

Has a reporter asked him?
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on August 27, 2012, 08:54:23 PM
hell I agree, major waste.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 08:55:13 PM
shouldn't Rand Paul be saying that ?

He should be.    FEMA, like most of the others are all bs. 
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
so we all agree ?

now is the time to talk about the fact that FEMA is a waste of money ?

Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 09:02:56 PM
so we all agree ?

Yup.

Quote
now is the time to talk about the fact that FEMA is a waste of money ?

Since you brought it up, yes.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 27, 2012, 09:06:12 PM
Yup.

Since you brought it up, yes.

right on

I can't wait for Rands Speech

Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on August 27, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Every single part of the government should be audited, and at the end wipe it clean of waste, fraud, and hand out programs. One big swipe all at once!
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Shockwave on August 27, 2012, 09:14:21 PM
Every single part of the government should be audited, and at the end wipe it clean of waste, fraud, and hand out programs. One big swipe all at once!
How about we just kick out every politician, and start completely over, programs and all?
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on August 27, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 27, 2012, 10:40:54 PM
Ron Paul's problem is that he's constantly dropping truth bombs. Rand Paul has a more polished approach - but that doesn't stop him from (willingly) getting into trouble from time to time:


Exactly!  Where most politicians would think to themselves "that's not a popular point to mention", Ron Paul says fuck it and gives you the cold hard, shitty ass truth.  :P

He would have gone further telling weak people want they want to hear though, and sugar coating.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 28, 2012, 01:33:31 AM
So we all agree

If Rand has any balls he will talk about why FEMA is a total waste of money
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: 240 is Back on August 28, 2012, 04:25:18 AM
fema actually does some good things, guys.   When my trailer park got flooded bad during charley, they gave my little bro/sis a brand new free fema trailer for a year.  Top of the line everything.   In port charlotte, they had an actual 'fema city' with almost 1000 trailers off of I-75.  when katrina smashed new orleans, they got tens of thousands of ppl housed in TX.

If you don't have fema to respond to major events, who is going to do it?  Local resources stay home and worry about their own decimated pool/screen room - they don't care about joe local's demolished roof.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 28, 2012, 07:42:45 AM
fema actually does some good things, guys.   When my trailer park got flooded bad during charley, they gave my little bro/sis a brand new free fema trailer for a year.  Top of the line everything.   In port charlotte, they had an actual 'fema city' with almost 1000 trailers off of I-75.  when katrina smashed new orleans, they got tens of thousands of ppl housed in TX.

If you don't have fema to respond to major events, who is going to do it?  Local resources stay home and worry about their own decimated pool/screen room - they don't care about joe local's demolished roof.

of course FEMA does some good things and if they didn't exist the disaster response would be left to the states or I guess volunteers (Isn't that Ron Pauls idea).    Rand doesn't have the balls to talk about FEMA while there is a hurricane raging outside.  Heck, Chris Christie was praising FEMA's response to Hurricane Irene just almost exactly one year ago.   
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Skip8282 on August 28, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
Although this would never happen, there is SHIT TONS of waste to be dealt with with regards to defense spending.



Nah...this is just posturing.  The DOD is actually been mandated undergo AuditReadiness from the SecDef.  Soon, it will all be getting audited.  And it's no secret.  But all the issues that are always in play will still be in play.  Oh...you wanna get rid of that plane?  Well, that plane is made in my district so we need to keep it, etc. etc.

The politics aren't going anywhere, lol.
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: howardroark on August 28, 2012, 09:18:30 PM
of course FEMA does some good things and if they didn't exist the disaster response would be left to the states or I guess volunteers (Isn't that Ron Pauls idea).    Rand doesn't have the balls to talk about FEMA while there is a hurricane raging outside.  Heck, Chris Christie was praising FEMA's response to Hurricane Irene just almost exactly one year ago.   

Do you honestly think libertarians and conservatives walk around thinking about every alphabet soup gov't agency they'd like to abolish? Why would he mention some random government agency if he wasn't asked about it by a reporter? It goes without saying.

And BTW, FEMA is a textbook example of moral hazard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard).
Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2012, 08:38:22 AM
Do you honestly think libertarians and conservatives walk around thinking about every alphabet soup gov't agency they'd like to abolish? Why would he mention some random government agency if he wasn't asked about it by a reporter? It goes without saying.

And BTW, FEMA is a textbook example of moral hazard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard).

Ron and (I'm pretty sure Rand) have specifically cited FEMA as an agency they would like to abolish

what better time to remind everyone of that then during a hurricane when any human being in the path of the storm might benefit from having such an agency

Like I said previously, if he had the balls he would do it

you on the other hand, think he is a "fucking badass" for getting up in front of a crowd of Republicans and whatever the heck teaaggers are and talk about auditing the Pentagon.    After that he'll probably continue the fucking badass tour by speaking to a group of 2nd graders and tell them all how much he likes ice cream and cake

Title: Re: Rand Paul's Message to GOP Convention: AUDIT THE PENTAGON
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 29, 2012, 10:27:02 AM
Ron and (I'm pretty sure Rand) have specifically cited FEMA as an agency they would like to abolish

what better time to remind everyone of that then during a hurricane when any human being in the path of the storm might benefit from having such an agency

Like I said previously, if he had the balls he would do it

you on the other hand, think he is a "fucking badass" for getting up in front of a crowd of Republicans and whatever the heck teaaggers are and talk about auditing the Pentagon.    After that he'll probably continue the fucking badass tour by speaking to a group of 2nd graders and tell them all how much he likes ice cream and cake

I didn't realize you were being sarcastic before!  ;D

We should abolish FEMA.

Ever heard of the Red Cross?