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I'm okay with this because it deal with minors. 

Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court, wading into a clash between free-speech rights and laws protecting children, agreed today to decide whether California can ban the sale or rental of violent video games to minors.

The court will review a federal court's decision to throw out California's ban. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco said the law violated minors' constitutional rights under the First and Fourteenth amendments.

California's law would have prohibited the sale or rental of violent games to anyone under 18. It also would have created strict labeling requirements for video game manufacturers. Retailers who violated the act would have been fined up to $1,000 for each violation.

The law never took effect, and was challenged shortly after it was signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. A U.S. District Court blocked it after the industry sued the state, citing constitutional concerns.

Schwarzenegger said he was pleased the high court will review that decision. "We have a responsibility to our kids and our communities to protect against the effects of games that depict ultra-violent actions, just as we already do with movies," the governor said.

Opponents of the law note that video games already are labeled with a rating system that lets parents decide what games their children can purchase and play. They also argue that the video games — which the Entertainment Software Association says were played in 68 percent of American households — are protected forms of expression under the First Amendment.

The decision to hear this case comes only a week after the high court voted overwhelmingly to strike down a federal law banning videos showing animal cruelty. The California case poses similar free speech concerns, although the state law is aimed at protecting children, raising an additional issue that could affect the high court's consideration.

Michael D. Gallagher, president of the Entertainment Software Association, said video games should get the same First Amendment protections as the court reaffirmed last week for videos.

Given last week's ruling, "we are hopeful that the court will reject California's invitation to break from these settled principles by treating depictions of violence, especially those in creative works, as unprotected by the First Amendment," he said.

Leland Yee, the California state senator who wrote the video game ban, said the Supreme Court obviously doesn't think the animal cruelty video ban and the violent video game ban are comparable. If they thought that, he said, the justices would not be reviewing the Ninth Circuit's decision to throw out the video game ban.

"Clearly, the justices want to look specifically at our narrowly tailored law that simply limits sales of ultra-violent games to kids without prohibiting speech," said Yee, a San Francisco Democrat.

California lawmakers approved the law, in part, by relying on several studies suggesting violent games can be linked to aggression, anti-social behavior and desensitization to violence in children. But federal judges have dismissed that research.

"None of the research establishes or suggests a causal link between minors playing violent video games and actual psychological or neurological harm, and inferences to that effect would not be reasonable," Judge Consuelo Callahan said in the 9th Circuit ruling.

Callahan also said there were less restrictive ways to protect children from "unquestionably violent" video games.

The supporters of the law say the same legal justifications for banning minors from accessing pornography can be applied to violent video games. They point to recent Federal Trade Commission studies suggesting that the video game industry's rating system was not effective in blocking minors from purchasing M-rated, or mature-rated games designed for adults.

But courts in other states have struck down similar laws.

The video game industry also argues that approval of California's video game restrictions could open the door for states to limit minors' access to other material under the guise of protecting children. "The state, in essence, asks us to create a new category of nonprotected material based on its depiction of violence," Callahan wrote in the 30-page ruling.

The court will hear arguments in this case in the fall.

The case is Schwarzenegger v. Video Software Dealers Association, 08-1448.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100426/BREAKING/100426015/Supreme+Court+to+decide+if+California+can+regulate+video+games

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 12:29:37 PM »
No way Jose. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 12:38:06 PM »
It's terrible... They already Police themselves better than anyone else will.

It's crap.

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 12:50:54 PM »
Kids police themselves??  Are you kidding? 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 12:51:37 PM »
No genius, the videogame industry... We already have very tough regulations on game ratings as is.


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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 12:56:24 PM »
Ah.  I see.  Your comments were so clear.   ::)  This isn't about warning labels, it's about restricting access to minors. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 12:58:44 PM »
What buisiness of the filthy cocksucking government what games my kid plays.Its none of their god dam concern.How about the stupid ass incompetent government worry about paving the fucking roads and let us raise our own f'n kids without their help.

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 01:00:47 PM »
lol.  I did run over a pretty mean pot hole the other day. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 01:04:02 PM »
Does the government keep kids out of Movie theaters? Why aren't you paying attention to what your own kids play?

You see a rated "M" game in your house and you don't like it... get rid of it.

Pay attention to your own kids.

Funny how on "this" you're a bleeding heart liberal.

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 01:09:52 PM »
Does the government keep kids out of Movie theaters? Why aren't you paying attention to what your own kids play?

You see a rated "M" game in your house and you don't like it... get rid of it.

Pay attention to your own kids.

Funny how on "this" you're a bleeding heart liberal.

Ah shaddap about my kids fool.   ::) 

We already prevent access to plenty of goods and services that society has deemed harmful to children.  This isn't much different. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 01:20:49 PM »

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 01:24:16 PM »
I'm not talking about your kids... What kind of stupid statement was that?

I'm telling you that every family is responsible for their own content... period.

This is just like Tipper Gore and those liberals with the PMRC.

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 01:26:06 PM »
Tu - you forced me on this.   ;D  ;D






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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 01:27:45 PM »
What buisiness of the filthy cocksucking government what games my kid plays.Its none of their god dam concern.How about the stupid ass incompetent government worry about paving the fucking roads and let us raise our own f'n kids without their help.

Good post Mr. Mimnaugh!
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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 01:29:18 PM »
3333... I am glad I could bring out some of the old nonsense that Tipper Gore had back in the day.

This is the same shit.

It's ridiculous!

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2010, 01:30:32 PM »
Dee snyder owned al gore.  I will never get tired of that clip. 

Ice T also nailed that song and Tipper Gore to the fucking wall. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2010, 01:32:04 PM »
I wish we could divide the United States in half, the people who want the government to raise them, and run their life's could move to the East Side of the Mississippi.  The rest of us could go west and live free.
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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2010, 01:33:02 PM »
I'm not talking about your kids... What kind of stupid statement was that?

I'm telling you that every family is responsible for their own content... period.

This is just like Tipper Gore and those liberals with the PMRC.

It's your stupid statement.   ::)

Every family is responsible for raising their own kids, but what we've done in many areas is restrict access to minors.  That's why a minor cannot buy certain drugs, alcohol, porn, see R-rated movies without their parents, buy guns, join the military, etc., etc.  

But they can get abortions without their parents' knowledge.   ::)

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2010, 01:34:34 PM »
I said the same thing last month and was attacked as a wing nut. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2010, 01:34:46 PM »
Apparently the general usage of the word "your" when it comes to a general populace is lost on you.


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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 08:08:48 AM »
I wish we could divide the United States in half, the people who want the government to raise them, and run their life's could move to the East Side of the Mississippi.  The rest of us could go west and live free.

Come on now!  I absolutely love SC.  Yeah, we have our problems like everybody else, but I do love it here. 

Cue BB to be a government bowing neocon when it comes to "protecting the kids".  Get the fuck out of here...the government has no place in this.  If you paid attention BB most stores will ask for ID nowadays if a person looks pretty young when buying a "M" rated game; it has become company policy at many stores.  I guess you don't pay attention or think sometimes though, once again the private sector governing themselves better than the government ever could. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 10:01:25 AM »
BB aka "NANCY" is just worried about "teh children"


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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 10:19:02 AM »
The argument of the ignorant is "its for the kids".Its a idiotic way to debate as when you use it you act as though those opposing you dont care about kids.Its the argument the government makes to ban steroids,recreational drugs,cencor music tv shows,radio etc. etc. Its always "for the kids'.I hear that doly Bill Oreilly use it all the time.We parents dont need your help or advise,keep it to yourself.

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2010, 11:41:13 AM »
Come on now!  I absolutely love SC.  Yeah, we have our problems like everybody else, but I do love it here. 

Cue BB to be a government bowing neocon when it comes to "protecting the kids".  Get the fuck out of here...the government has no place in this.  If you paid attention BB most stores will ask for ID nowadays if a person looks pretty young when buying a "M" rated game; it has become company policy at many stores.  I guess you don't pay attention or think sometimes though, once again the private sector governing themselves better than the government ever could. 

What is a "government bowing necon"? 

I'm all for the private sector doing its job.  I also have no problem with a law like this that really isn't any different than the plethora of laws already on the books.  Would be completely different story in my view if it restricted what adults can and cannot purchase. 

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Re: Supreme Court to decide if California can regulate video games
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2010, 11:44:15 AM »
Beach... How's it feel to be a bleeding heart lib trying to protect society from itself?