LOL - you guys really don't like me stepping up and defending Layne, so be it - I'm done talking about this because you guys will just fire back, believe what you want to beleive....
He deadlifts 700 lbs - thats fucking impressive!
He benches 370 lbs (after he tore his chest) - still impressive
And in regards to myself, I'm not a liar - I've listed EXACTLY whatever pro-hormones/pro-steroids I've ever taken BACK IN 2005 right before they were banned! Haven't hidden a thing... and if you want to believe I'm on more than that! Thats your perogative! Again believe what you want to believe.
And to gh15.... I actually like you, and on more than one occassion have stated that I don't think you should ever be banned from getbig, because of how entertaining I think your posts are (regardless of whether the advice you give is accurate or not - I really wouldn't know because I know very little about anabolics, I know you all wish thats not true, but it is the case!). But its too bad you think my arms don't mean anything when they measure 18.5 in the off-season!
I'll take my shitty drug-free physique and live with it 
the fact! of the matter is,, that you do not know lay nortom ,, you do not knwo what he use ,,you do nto know steroids according to you ...so really you have no idea wether to even start supporting natural status since you dont know....i tell you here things i know,, i will not go ahead and give information ,, im the most important indiasvidual in the cult of bodybuild and i could give plenty of information to how and where he get his products,,like skip he lie he is just so bad of genetic respond that unlike skip he cant get anywehre physiqe wize....
remember friend,, my mission is serving the bodybuild cult not destroying it....i cant shed light on few things because it will devostate a person his real life....but i am telling you here and now that the fellas i claim on hormones havea trail,,yes everyone uses diff names,, but trail doesnt come only from real name ,, trail comes from elfs who actualy are trusted by the indviduals talked about,,
a fella does otmarry fitness competitor ,, a fella doesnt do bodybuild for living ,, a fella doesnt do powerlifting for living,, a fella dont sit on internet make money from talking bodybuild unless he has HANDS AND FOOT IN hormones you can be phd and ph double d it dotn matter
a fella like lay nortom can actualy write you a book! about the drugs he uses and the drugs eh doesnt use,, he has long experience from young age with them ,,he tried everything from designers to the legit products that all of us use
fellas in bodybuild cult who have web pages...who have money made out of the cult ,, who have need to be in expos,, who take bodybuild serious and live it ....they do not stop in natural anything,, they usualy are the first! to come and beg for products
if i could do it i woudl go out with book with everyone who purchased hormones,, your eyes woudl become black from how many are doing it ,,but i cant do it ,, it will be considered a betrayal of the cult and betrayal of the cult = death verdict even for god of hormones,,i came to the top from the buttom i know all the stages in between ,, to keep an army happy you need to keep it fed ....so you will nevr see list of anything because you cant out the ones who feed the tree
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