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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2013, 08:41:43 AM »
The situation was reversed in the recent past.  There were laws passed to build a border fence between the US and Mexico.  The Dems didn't like the idea so they chose not to fund it.  We ended up with a fraction of the fence that was intended even though it was "the law of the land". 

Obeezy and his people want everything their way.  They are the ones that will not accept a budget that doesn't include Obamacare.  It's not even a real shutdown either.  They are picking and choosing what they wan to keep open and what they want to close.  This whole crisis is a sham.

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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2013, 08:46:43 AM »
Your use of the word extortion is pure hyperbole.  That’s what is silly.    

It’s simply incorrect to say the GOP is refusing to fund the government.  The majority in the House has agreed to fund the government, except for Obamacare.  They have the right to do that.  
Sure, it's impossible though, so you support lost causes that cause undue suffering to your fellow man? check

Obama is refusing to sign a bill funding the government, unless it includes funding for Obamacare.  He has that right as well.  What Obama could do is agree to fund the government, as a majority in the House offered to do, and negotiate Obamacare funding separately.  
No he is not, he is refusing to overturn a law that has been upheld. You are acting as if they haven't attempted the actual means of repealing Obamacare, they did, they lost 41 times, this is a last ditch effort which is impossible, what about that don't you understand?
Yes, Democrats must negotiate if they want to pass bills they support.  That’s how our democratic system works.  Just look at how Obamacare was passed in the first place:  party line vote.  Not a single Republican vote in the House.  Democrats prevailed because they had a majority and Republicans could only convince thirty-four Democrats to vote against the bill.
Oh yes the bills they want passed.. wait, what fucking bills? you mean the law already voted and upheld? that bill? wasn't it passed already? why the fuck do they have to concede in order to fund something already passed?
So, if Democrats want a resolution that includes funding for the law that the majority of the country doesn’t want, they need to convince their colleagues on the other side of the aisle.
The majority of country voted the person running on it twice and the person opposing it lost.
I’m glad Republicans are showing some backbone.  I doubt it will last.      
Backbone? they are attempting something that can't be done and are hurting millions of people, great fucking job.


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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2013, 04:28:17 AM »
The situation was reversed in the recent past.  There were laws passed to build a border fence between the US and Mexico.  The Dems didn't like the idea so they chose not to fund it.  We ended up with a fraction of the fence that was intended even though it was "the law of the land". 

Two things:

1) Did the Democrats shut down the government, and hold the entire nation world hostage?
So they didn't like the idea, so they didn't fund it even though it was law, ...but did they bring everything to a grinding stop in an effort to get their way? The situation is dire enough as it is, ...but these self-inflicted wounds are really too much.  ::)

2) You should be grateful, the fence is only a fraction of what it could have been. A few months / years from now, it might become the very thing that the Gov't may use to try to keep you IN the USA.

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Obeezy and his people want everything their way.  They are the ones that will not accept a budget that doesn't include Obamacare.  It's not even a real shutdown either.  They are picking and choosing what they wan to keep open and what they want to close.  This whole crisis is a sham.

Wholeheartedly agree. Nothing more than a piece of badly acted theatre.
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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2013, 07:40:33 AM »
According to 67% (last count) of the nation, the Republicans were to blame for shutting down the gov't.   Yeah, that worked out very well for them didn't it?  When they came out waving the white flag 16 days later what exactly had they accomplished and gained?  Absolutely nothing.


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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2013, 07:57:44 AM »
LMFAO - and yet today - that ghetto street skell has to go out and blame everyone else for the failures of garbageCare

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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2013, 09:19:25 AM »
According to 67% (last count) of the nation, the Republicans were to blame for shutting down the gov't.   Yeah, that worked out very well for them didn't it?  When they came out waving the white flag 16 days later what exactly had they accomplished and gained?  Absolutely nothing.



No surprise considering 90% of the MSM told them what to think and 'who to blame'.

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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2013, 10:50:59 AM »
According to 67% (last count) of the nation, the Republicans were to blame for shutting down the gov't.   Yeah, that worked out very well for them didn't it?  When they came out waving the white flag 16 days later what exactly had they accomplished and gained?  Absolutely nothing.



Pay attention, retardo. Most of the nation is as stupid as you. They are so stupid that a lot of them blame Bush for the shutdown eventhough he hasn't been in office for over 5 years.

So to cite that figure means nothing.

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Re: Thomas Sowell: Who shut down the government?
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2013, 10:56:31 AM »
Pay attention, retardo. Most of the nation is as stupid as you. They are so stupid that a lot of them blame Bush for the shutdown eventhough he hasn't been in office for over 5 years.

So to cite that figure means nothing.

Actually it does mean something.  If most of the nation is "as stupid as me" then that means they are still 100x smarter than your idiot ass.

"HEHEHEHEH"  ::)  Congratulations for being FAUX NEWS smart.