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Who is the guy that speaks and stand agains anyone or even, if necessary, could brawl someone to defend his posture or his attitude?
Well I go for Milos, I think he is the badest ass in bbing!
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I gotta go with Yates. He used to be a skinhead, that guy had to get in fights. I don't think you could get most BBs (or people in general for that matter) to fight if you pissed on their leg.
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Ed from Roitdam
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I gotta go with Yates. He used to be a skinhead, that guy had to get in fights. I don't think you could get most BBs (or people in general for that matter) to fight if you pissed on their leg.
I agree with you, but like I said before I think Milos is capable of it, specially if someone disses his work or his gym... but I would like someone to confirm this... Regarding Dorian I heard many versions of his stories but most people say he really is bad ass, when I met him personally he didn't seem very talkative...
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phil baroni cuz he was a bb'er first
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Ed Van Amsterdam, as far as people speak, ran after the fighter that sucker punched Dorian... ;) Ed is a cool guy, (coolest bber I met personaly) and he likes to hit beer lol
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phil baroni cuz he was a bb'er first
Why did he quit bbing?
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Khan is a former boxer and a bouncer, so Im sure he could hold his own
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Khan is a former boxer and a bouncer, so Im sure he could hold his own
Didn't know he was a boxer... which weight division?
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Would have to go with SquadFather/QuarkerOat's as the baddest MoFo around .With all his owning adventures and such. Would be sudden death if any fool would try going against him.
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Didn't know he was a boxer... which weight division?
apparently known for his speed also, He was a big dude back then also so I would guess a HW, maby I can ask him later on,
He would have some awesome stories from when he was a bouncer also, god damnit BB is so fucked up he cant even to sföojgfköjkököljä god damn interviews with other people
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I gotta go with Yates. He used to be a skinhead, that guy had to get in fights. I don't think you could get most BBs (or people in general for that matter) to fight if you pissed on their leg.
Yates got his ass knocked out a few years back at some club by some skinny-fat dude who had never been in a fight his entire life.
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Milos, since he wasn't afraid of going after Paul Chua and revealing his true nature!
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Would have to go with SquadFather/QuarkerOat's as the baddest MoFo around .With all his owning adventures and such. Would be sudden death if any fool would try going against him.
Agreed.
Squad had some crazy stuff go down in his time that truly solidified him as a bad ass..
Check out some of these gems:
"it's around 70 degress today here in St. Louis so i'm at the grocery store getting stuff for my cheesesteak sandwiches and i spot a 5'7" 150 pound mountain of thick muscle wearing a Gold's Gym string tank top in front of me with his girlfriend so i say, "damn man, you're huge!!!!!!! do you work out at Gold's?" he says "yeah i do" so i pull up the sleeve on my short sleeve white Nike t shirt and flex my 18 inch arm and say, "yeah i just started working out at Gold's as well, i'm trying to get as HUGE as you!!!!!" hahahahaha, he looked down and his girlfriend grinned at me."
"decided to go to my local sports bar last night to have a nice big double cheeseburger, fries, chicken wings and mozzarella sticks and as i'm eating in walks this huge 6'0" 160lb. metrosexual mass monster in skin tight size M black t shirt revealing massive 13 inch arms, sand blasted Old Navy jeans with his hot wife and 4 month old baby, i'm wearing a short sleeve button down shirt covering my miniscule almost 18 inch arms and i look over and say, "my God!!!!!! one day i'm going to get my arms as big as yours!!!!!", hahahaha, his "wife" started smiling, good stuff."
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Who is the guy that speaks and stand agains anyone or even, if necessary, could brawl someone to defend his posture or his attitude?
Well I go for Milos, I think he is the badest ass in bbing!
titus
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Yates got his ass knocked out a few years back at some club by some skinny-fat dude who had never been in a fight his entire life.
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Probably got beat because he led with his left. ;D
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titus
or mcneil, cause of all the stories they credit her with
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Agreed.
Squad had some crazy stuff go down in his time that truly solidified him as a bad ass..
Check out some of these gems:
"it's around 70 degress today here in St. Louis so i'm at the grocery store getting stuff for my cheesesteak sandwiches and i spot a 5'7" 150 pound mountain of thick muscle wearing a Gold's Gym string tank top in front of me with his girlfriend so i say, "damn man, you're huge!!!!!!! do you work out at Gold's?" he says "yeah i do" so i pull up the sleeve on my short sleeve white Nike t shirt and flex my 18 inch arm and say, "yeah i just started working out at Gold's as well, i'm trying to get as HUGE as you!!!!!" hahahahaha, he looked down and his girlfriend grinned at me."
"decided to go to my local sports bar last night to have a nice big double cheeseburger, fries, chicken wings and mozzarella sticks and as i'm eating in walks this huge 6'0" 160lb. metrosexual mass monster in skin tight size M black t shirt revealing massive 13 inch arms, sand blasted Old Navy jeans with his hot wife and 4 month old baby, i'm wearing a short sleeve button down shirt covering my miniscule almost 18 inch arms and i look over and say, "my God!!!!!! one day i'm going to get my arms as big as yours!!!!!", hahahaha, his "wife" started smiling, good stuff."
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haha what a delusional clown he was.
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craig titus...............
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All the bad asses in bbing have gotten taken down. Flex, by some non existing Ninjas, rumored to be an off shoot of The Foot clan, known as The Toe. Titus, he's sqeashing his ass tight in prison. Mighty Mike Quinn, showed just how Mightily Stupid he was after a Bouncer played Mr. Potatohead with his face and made it resemble a Picasso painting.
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All the bad asses in bbing have gotten taken down. Flex, by some non existing Ninjas, rumored to be an off shoot of The Foot clan, known as The Toe. Titus, he's sqeashing his ass tight in prison. Mighty Mike Quinn, showed just how Mightily Stupid he was after a Bouncer played Mr. Potatohead with his face and made it resemble a Picasso painting.
Hahahahahaha a bunch of posturing bad-asses
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All the bad asses in bbing have gotten taken down. Flex, by some non existing Ninjas, rumored to be an off shoot of The Foot clan, known as The Toe. Titus, he's sqeashing his ass tight in prison. Mighty Mike Quinn, showed just how Mightily Stupid he was after a Bouncer played Mr. Potatohead with his face and made it resemble a Picasso painting.
Any more info...?
lmao at squadfather - true legend... his stories are pure gold...
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titus offcourse
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Bodybuilders don't lose fights.
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Baroni even though he sucks at fighting.
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Any more info...?
lmao at squadfather - true legend... his stories are pure gold...
Not much, just look at the pic. Chances are he was dunning his like usual, was told to get out, and prolly said to the Bouncer, "Im Mighty Mike Quinn, you effing don't talk to me like that!", then his ass was pushed into his face, I think he tore a pec as well.
He was always talking shit. Said John Sherman had elephant skin (thick), and didn't deserve his placing. He and David "Wildchild" Dearth were the Titus and Kamali of their day.
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They're all badass because they take it to the max, hardcore!
You have to eat, sleep, and breathe bodybuilding if you want to succeed!
Blood sweat and tears is where it's at!
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Not much, just look at the pic. Chances are he was dunning his like usual, was told to get out, and prolly said to the Bouncer, "Im Mighty Mike Quinn, you effing don't talk to me like that!", then his ass was pushed into his face, I think he tore a pec as well.
He was always talking shit. Said John Sherman had elephant skin (thick), and didn't deserve his placing. He and David "Wildchild" Dearth were the Titus and Kamali of their day.
You forgot how he threatened to rip Gary Strydom's wig off lol
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titus was, now he is get ass raped in prison. :-\ I think warren is up for the job.
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You forgot how he threatened to rip Gary Strydom's wig off lol
Yeah, talked smack about Shawn Ray, it seemed the lower his placings got the louder he yelled.
Btw, that Mike v. Arnold pic always impressed me. I want my chest to be like Arnold's is in that pic, in similar clothing.
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Yeah, talked smack about Shawn Ray, it seemed the lower his placings got the louder he yelled.
Btw, that Mike v. Arnold pic always impressed me. I want my chest to be like Arnold's is in that pic, in similar clothing.
Arnold looked real cool in that picture. The type of guy that just lets bullshit slide right off his shirt without thinking twice about it. You can clearly see Mentzer puffing his chest and holding a tight fist, whereas Arnold won't even give him the time of day, not even look at him...
In real life, that's how I see Ron acting with people..
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Not much, just look at the pic. Chances are he was dunning his like usual, was told to get out, and prolly said to the Bouncer, "Im Mighty Mike Quinn, you effing don't talk to me like that!", then his ass was pushed into his face, I think he tore a pec as well.
He was always talking shit. Said John Sherman had elephant skin (thick), and didn't deserve his placing. He and David "Wildchild" Dearth were the Titus and Kamali of their day.
Cool info... Quinn is one of my faves because he's quite amusing...
...the fist-kissing must have been a huge blow to his ego...
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Arnold looked real cool in that picture. The type of guy that just lets bullshit slide right off his shirt without thinking twice about it. You can clearly see Mentzer puffing his chest and holding a tight fist, whereas Arnold won't even give him the time of day, not even look at him...
In real life, that's how I see Ron acting with people..
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avoiding eye contact means he was afraid
people only look at him as the "cool guy" in that pic because he went on to great success
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Arnold would have kicked crybaby Mentzers ass,and if somehow he did start to lose,Waller would have taken over for him and Waller was a bad dude from all accounts.
Mike was frustrated because he could never hope to beat Arnold so he went nuts! ;D
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I agree with you, but like I said before I think Milos is capable of it, specially if someone disses his work or his gym... but I would like someone to confirm this... Regarding Dorian I heard many versions of his stories but most people say he really is bad ass, when I met him personally he didn't seem very talkative...
true badasses tend to not be chatty cathy's
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Arnold would have kicked crybaby Mentzers ass,and if somehow he did start to lose,Waller would have taken over for him and Waller was a bad dude from all accounts.
Mike was frustrated because he could never hope to beat Arnold so he went nuts! ;D
You can see Mike back in the day wishing to be like Arnold
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Mike was always jealous of him.
I read somewhere that Arnold had a lot of fights when he was younger and never lost one..........I think it was in "Arnold The Education Of A Bodybuilder".
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avoiding eye contact means he was afraid
people only look at him as the "cool guy" in that pic because he went on to great success
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Earl.. sometimes you need to shut up about things that you have no clue about.
What you say there is a HUGE interpretation. Arnold could just be blinking or looking away for a small moment.
Don't act like you were there when the picture was taken
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Earl.. sometimes you need to shut up about things that you have no clue about.
What you say there is a HUGE interpretation. Arnold could just be blinking or looking away for a small moment.
Don't act like you were there when the picture was taken
yeah i'm the only one acting like i can tell what's going on based on one picture ::)
also crossing the legs could mean he isn't quite comfortable :)
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From the stuff i've heard Ken Waller was a pretty tough dude back in the day
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From the stuff i've heard Ken Waller was a pretty tough dude back in the day
Guy was hardcore
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Earl.. sometimes you need to shut up about things that you have no clue about.
What you say there is a HUGE interpretation. Arnold could just be blinking or looking away for a small moment.
Don't act like you were there when the picture was taken
He is judging from the picture, nothing more.
Only getbigger that really WAS there when it happened was Vince Basile i believe.
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Titus will kill you and then light you on fire. Nuff said
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Hands of steel...
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Steve Michalik Mr America - I understand he used beat up people outside his gym in NYC...one crazy dude
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I gotta go with Yates. He used to be a skinhead, that guy had to get in fights. I don't think you could get most BBs (or people in general for that matter) to fight if you pissed on their leg.
LOL, reminds me of Fight Club, where he sends everyone out to start a fight. ;D
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You forgot how he threatened to rip Gary Strydom's wig off lol
i'd like to hear more about this LOL
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i'd like to hear more about this LOL
Him and Strydom were going back in forth in magazines for months.
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thanks...would have been funny as hell to see. wonder if GS full set dentures would fall out too? lol
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thanks...would have been funny as hell to see. wonder if GS full set dentures would fall out too? lol
This was Strydom before ( and after ) the hairplugs and he commented about Quinn and that's when Mike threatened to rip them out of his head
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Milos is a pussy just listen to his voice sounds like a ten year old girl.Tough badass nah just all piss and wind.
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Yates got his ass knocked out a few years back at some club by some skinny-fat dude who had never been in a fight his entire life.
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That sounds likely.
LOL, reminds me of Fight Club, where he sends everyone out to start a fight.
Yeah, I love the part where he sprays the father with the hose. IME, that's just about exactly the way it is to. Everyone talks shit, but when it kicks off, they're nowhere to be found.
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How could anyone name anyone other than Titus. I mean the horrible things he did the that Jaguar! :o
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titus
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Bertil Fox
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I know some IFBB Pros are in the Mafia no big deal it's just a job.
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1. BF 2. Craig T.
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Bertil Fox
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What year did you win the Universe???
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Dorian's a bitch, as much as I respect him as a bodybuilder he has a tenacity to get KTFO every few years... I always thought Titus was a badass, but now he takes it in the ass and enjoys it...and no REAL badass would TAKE it in the ass.
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Dorian's a bitch, as much as I respect him as a bodybuilder he has a tenacity to get KTFO every few years... I always thought Titus was a badass, but now he takes it in the ass and enjoys it...and no REAL badass would TAKE it in the ass.
how do you know he takes it in the ass?
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Dorian's a bitch, as much as I respect him as a bodybuilder he has a tenacity to get KTFO every few years
I think you probably meant "tendency" but aside from that, is there any proof at all to any of that, or just more internet rumors?
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I think you probably meant "tendency" but aside from that, is there any proof at all to any of that, or just more internet rumors?
I remember at least 3 seperate incidents in the last 8 or 9 years where he got his ass beat or knocked out, 2 of them happened at expo's/bodybuilding shows and one at a club, from what I can remember... there's also a bunch of pics of him with shiners floating around.
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how do you know he takes it in the ass?
It's been talked about on here for years by schmoes, pro's and people in the industry, it's pretty common knowledge that Craig loved threesomes, orgies, ecstasy and gangbang's with both sexes.
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I remember at least 3 seperate incidents in the last 8 or 9 years where he got his ass beat or knocked out, 2 of them happened at expo's/bodybuilding shows and one at a club, from what I can remember... there's also a bunch of pics of him with shiners floating around.
I heard about the fighter in Holland who punched him out, Dick Vrij was his name I think. What happened in the other two incidents?
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Milos is a pussy just listen to his voice sounds like a ten year old girl.Tough badass nah just all piss and wind.
Hi Coach.
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Didn't that Guy Grundy dude talk about fighting all the time?
Yeah, talk... I think.
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LOL, reminds me of Fight Club, where he sends everyone out to start a fight. ;D
Outed.
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Maybe we are overlooking Kelly Ryan.
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Getbig's very own Vince Basile ;D
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Chuck Sipes looked tough, and was a very woodsy fellow. Powerlifter and sometime bodybuilder Roger Estep was in the 82nd Airborne in Vietnam, I believe. Lee Moran, one of the first to squat #1000 was a Hell's Angel.
But the big daddy of scene was Bob Hoffman. If he was alive, he'd be a Getbigger. He was a tax cheating millionaire, had multiple women on the side, including 3 going at the same time.
He was also quite the ass beater, having smacked around oldtime publisher Mark Berry and quite a few others. He even once challanged Joe Weider to a boxing match using light skin tight gloves. Weider smartly avoided this, both because of it's silliness and also probably because Hoffman had almost beat a man to death in a hotel just a short time before, and I mean really beat him, fractured skull, broken teeth, the whole bit.
Not all bodybuilders, but tough guys involved in weight training all the same.
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Earl.. sometimes you need to shut up about things that you have no clue about.
What you say there is a HUGE interpretation. Arnold could just be blinking or looking away for a small moment.
Don't act like you were there when the picture was taken
Hi Arnold
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I remember reading about the Quinn - Strydom spat. Mike was part of Vinny Paz's group and was trying to set up a boxing match between him and strydom to settle matters. Probably just bluster to make himself look tough.
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Nasser El Sonbatty is a huge fucking pussy.
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Nasser El Sonbatty is a huge fucking pussy.
Got that right. He's too cowardly to post under his own name and prefers to hide under an assumed name on getbig while getting his gayboyz to post for him.
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DA without a doubt!
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Nasser El Sonbatty is a huge fucking pussy.
And so are all his nuthuggers here on GB...
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the only legit guy I can think of is Ernie Taylor (Dorian's boy) who is an ex British kickboxer/muay thai fighter.
Most of the pros are insecure pussies, the other half a bunch of homo fluff's.
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Mike was always jealous of him.
I read somewhere that Arnold had a lot of fights when he was younger and never lost one..........I think it was in "Arnold The Education Of A Bodybuilder".
HAHA sure and he also slept in grown German men's beds. Shut the fuck up dumbass. You have no clue, no one does. In all likelihood Arnold was probably a big pussy. Like Earl said those who talk a lot of shit like Arnold are usually big pussies. Also the never looking someone in the eye thing is a good sign as well. Arnold is the type of person that was mouthy and acted tough around people and his friends. The minute you caught him by himself I'm sure he'd probably be on his knees begging you to not beat his ass. Arnold was a very successful guy no doubt about it........but he was hardly a brawler.
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the only legit guy I can think of is Ernie Taylor (Dorian's boy) who is an ex British kickboxer/muay thai fighter.
Most of the pros are insecure pussies, the other half a bunch of homo fluff's.
Didn't he pussy out of that fight with Guy Grundy!?
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Zone Capone would kick fuck out of all the other fags mentioned!
(http://www.zonecapone.com/bilder/Sune/zone%20thumbs%20up.JPG)
Crazy Hardcore.
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Didn't he pussy out of that fight with Guy Grundy!?
I don't know, maybe he didn't want to waste $4,000 on a plane ticket and hotel accomodations for internet bragging rights, England isn't exactly an hour drive from California.. Who knows what really happened with that situation, for all we know Guy could have just been talking shit on here and never actually set up the offer with Ernie.
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I don't know, maybe he didn't want to waste $4,000 on a plane ticket and hotel accomodations for internet bragging rights, England isn't exactly an hour drive from California.. Who knows what really happened with that situation, for all we know Guy could have just been talking shit on here and never actually set up the offer with Ernie.
I don't know. Guy was more than accommodating. I think there may even have been offers of a free flight, too. I think (and this is going back so I may be foggy) Ernie definitely backed out, and went real silent pretty fast.
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Jocelyn Polittier?
I am not sure I can take this guy...
I couldn't make him take his watch off before he went on stage at the NOC...
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Jocelyn Polittier?
I am not sure I can take this guy...
I couldn't make him take his watch off before he went on stage at the NOC...
i bet you didnt have a hard time taking his pants off
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I am far and away from being BAD ASS...unless (ASS X 2) + IN movie is casting for the main actor...I would like to take that role...
I heard that bad guy in that movie is Pinocchio...so I can't wait to slap, scratch and pull some hair...or rather - that wig of...[oh yeah..I just remembered - he said it is not a wig...Anyway...]
On the serious note - IF IFBB would consider MMA division - I would absolutely love to be involved...
Hmmmm, I am suspended...never mind...
Well, as I am going to be "unsuspended" shortly - I would strongly suggest to add MMA fights to IFBB...
I mean - they added fitness, than figure, than bikini round...what's next - Ms. Stripper Olympia wih lap dance as "posing routine"...
They are about to bring OIL or MUD wrestling for ladies (I am undecided as far as BUDLIGHT - BUDWISER girls fight is concerned...I vote: draw - with 2 one hour overtime...without that distracting uniform...or bikini...)
So, why don't we have MMA fights among IFBB bodybuilders...We would get "oh so much more" audience, fans, media coverage...
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i bet you didnt have a hard time taking his pants off
Oh, Craig Titus already took care of that...He was in same lockeroom with Jocelyn...
Now, as you mentioned I wondered why Jocelin had only left arm colored and oil only on the top part of the back...?
Hmmmmm
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I am far and away from being BAD ASS...unless (ASS X 2) + IN movie is casting for the main actor...I would like to take that role...
I heard that bad guy in that movie is Pinocchio...so I can't wait to slap, scratch and pull some hair...or rather - that wig of...[oh yeah..I just remembered - he said it is not a wig...Anyway...]
On the serious note - IF IFBB would consider MMA division - I would absolutely love to be involved...
Hmmmm, I am suspended...never mind...
Well, as I am going to be "unsuspended" shortly - I would strongly suggest to add MMA fights to IFBB...
I mean - they added fitness, than figure, than bikini round...what's next - Ms. Stripper Olympia wih lap dance as "posing routine"...
They are about to bring OIL or MUD wrestling for ladies (I am undecided as far as BUDLIGHT - BUDWISER girls fight is concerned...I vote: draw - with 2 one hour overtime...without that distracting uniform...or bikini...)
So, why don't we have MMA fights among IFBB bodybuilders...We would get "oh so much more" audience, fans, media coverage...
unfortunately, too many pretty boy shit talkers on the internets
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Oh, Craig Titus already took care of that...He was in same lockeroom with Jocelyn...
Now, as you mentioned I wondered why Jocelin had only left arm colored and oil only on the top part of the back...?
Hmmmmm
Jocelyn was upset as he wanted to borrow Chicks wig for that contest but Chick said NO...he was scheduled to compete as well - and refused to give away his "Samsonian power"...
I on another hand, having overflowing synthol is my ridiculous looking arms offer to Jocelyn equal exchange - pint of oil for each nanogram of muscle he holds on his frame...and he looked interested in a deal - but couldn't come up with that much muscle...as he simply doesn't have it...
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Oh, Craig Titus already took care of that...He was in same lockeroom with Jocelyn...
Now, as you mentioned I wondered why Jocelin had only left arm colored and oil only on the top part of the back...?
Hmmmmm
hahaha nice come back , chick would have just melted ;D
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Oh, Craig Titus already took care of that...He was in same lockeroom with Jocelyn...
Now, as you mentioned I wondered why Jocelin had only left arm colored and oil only on the top part of the back...?
Hmmmmm
He Milos, how's that PRO CYCLE you were gonna post 6 months ago??? you kind of left us hanging there..
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Well, on serious/serious note MMA would be great addition to the IFBB...
I see that a lot of football players are converting into MMA fighters...WWE wrestlers (practicing and participating in staged MMA fights for decades...), Marius Pudzianowski...strongman champion could (and I hope will) make huge impact on the sport of MMA...so why not bodybuilders?
Many of us did train some kind of martial arts, some of us participated in some kind of fighting tournaments (judo, karate, wrestling, boxing, pie eating......)
We could have MMA/UFC ruled tryouts and possibly even have "celebrity match-ups" - against athletes superstars in other sports and best yet - against the real UFC fighters...
Dana White tried to organize boxing match against Tito Ortiz few years back...but Tito never showed up...
However, the idea behind it was brilliant...How many of us wanted to see him beat Tito? (what...both of us? Oh, well...)
I would signed up to fight someone like Randy Coutour...Not to disrespect Randy (as everyone would say - I am not on his level...and it is an "insult" even suggesting that I could hold on my own against such an icon of the sport...
But, I think that Randy himself would gladly accept the challenge and NOT take it as insult...Considering we are about the same age...and that both of us were involved in some kind of sporting activity since childhood...until now...
It is loooooong shot but you never know...Never say never....
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I saw Yates in Rochester NY back when he was 32...1995....he looked tough. For real
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He Milos, how's that PRO CYCLE you were gonna post 6 months ago??? you kind of left us hanging there..
NO, CYCLE IS POSTED - GUARANTEE...You just need to search for it...trust me...
And I have another deal for all of you that didn't attend my FREE SEMINARS I organized for those of you not able to come to Fullerton...
I am installing special cameras that will broadcast "webinars" and training sessions (my giant sets with several top pros...)
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[quote author=Milos_Sarcev link=topic=308490.msg4406532#msg4406532 date=1259616505]
Well, on serious/serious note MMA would be great addition to the IFBB...
I see that a lot of football players are converting into MMA fighters...WWE wrestlers (practicing and participating in staged MMA fights for decades...), Marius Pudzianowski...strongman champion could (and I hope will) make huge impact on the sport of MMA...so why not bodybuilders?
Many of us did train some kind of martial arts, some of us participated in some kind of fighting tournaments (judo, karate, wrestling, boxing, pie eating......)
We could have MMA/UFC ruled tryouts and possibly even have "celebrity match-ups" - against athletes superstars in other sports and best yet - against the real UFC fighters...
Dana White tried to organize boxing match against Tito Ortiz few years back...but Tito never showed up...
However, the idea behind it was brilliant...How many of us wanted to see him beat Tito? (what...both of us? Oh, well...)
I would signed up to fight someone like Randy Coutour...Not to disrespect Randy (as everyone would say - I am not on his level...and it is an "insult" even suggesting that I could hold on my own against such an icon of the sport...
But, I think that Randy himself would gladly accept the challenge and NOT take it as insult...Considering we are about the same age...and that both of us were involved in some kind of sporting activity since childhood...until now...
It is loooooong shot but you never know...Never say never....
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Milos it is always good to know your opinion. But do you really think that most bbers would accept to include MMA in a top level bbing competion? And... you are bad ass, you speak your mind and you don't hide yourself behind "the great physique" concept. You would accept the MMA, in your opinion which other bbers would also accept to fight? Why don't you fulfill that idea to include MMA in bbing. It would be nice to see who really can pull out anything from very muscled physiques...
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I doubt most Pro's egos could handle the muscle loss to be a real life bad ass.
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I saw Yates in Rochester NY back when he was 32...1995....he looked tough. For real
Look has nothing to do with being tough or being able to fight...
But, for all people that laugh about Dorian being knocked out by some fighter backstage at Dutch Grand prix 2003 - I want to let you know - it was a sucker punch - completely unnecessary and unavoidable...
It was during the usual post event back stage commotion - when all the competitors are trying to get dressed and leave in a hurry, with staff, family members, friends, fans...etc all run like a "stampede" overflowing narrow passage behind the stage on the way to lockerooms...
It just happens that I was closest person to Dorian when I heard loud punch maybe 2 feet away from me (slightly behind me) and than I noticed UFO (unidentified flying object) passing me to my right...
Yes, without any exaggeration - punch that Dick Vrij landed was one of the hardest punches I've witnessed it - sending about 275 pound Dorian in air (like it was movie trick...Similar with Brad Pitt in movie Snatch.../if you didn't see - rent it...great movie...and lots of fighting scenes...
However - Dorian simply walked into sucker punch - and I don't believe anyone would stand on their feet after that bomb - placed right on the button...
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Yates got his ass knocked out a few years back at some club by some skinny-fat dude who had never been in a fight his entire life.
"1"
You couldn't be more wrong.
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Look has nothing to do with being tough or being able to fight...
But, for all people that laugh about Dorian being knocked out by some fighter backstage at Dutch Grand prix 2003 - I want to let you know - it was a sucker punch - completely unnecessary and unavoidable...
It was during the usual post event back stage commotion - when all the competitors are trying to get dressed and leave in a hurry, with staff, family members, friends, fans...etc all run like a "stampede" overflowing narrow passage behind the stage on the way to lockerooms...
It just happens that I was closest person to Dorian when I heard loud punch maybe 2 feet away from me (slightly behind me) and than I noticed UFO (unidentified flying object) passing me to my right...
Yes, without any exaggeration - punch that Dick Vrij landed was one of the hardest punches I've witnessed it - sending about 275 pound Dorian in air (like it was movie trick...Similar with Brad Pitt in movie Snatch.../if you didn't see - rent it...great movie...and lots of fighting scenes...
However - Dorian simply walked into sucker punch - and I don't believe anyone would stand on their feet after that bomb - placed right on the button...
I read somewhere on this forum that Ed Van Amsterdam chased that guy or something like that. Was it true? No one tried to stop the sucker puncher? Why a sucker punch? Why didn't he just face Dorian eye by eye?
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You couldn't be more wrong.
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Dick Vrij is about 6'4" and 275-300 lbs professional K1 Fighter with fist like a basketball...
I would probably loose my footing if he missed Dorian - just from "wind" his missed punch would created...
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NO, CYCLE IS POSTED - GUARANTEE...You just need to search for it...trust me...
And I have another deal for all of you that didn't attend my FREE SEMINARS I organized for those of you not able to come to Fullerton...
I am installing special cameras that will broadcast "webinars" and training sessions (my giant sets with several top pros...)
Milos believe me, if I lived anywhere within a 4 hour drive of California I would be there..unfortunately Toronto is a 2 day drive from where you are.
:)
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Dick Vrij
Pro Record: 13-10-0 (Win-Loss-Draw)
Team:
Sex: Male
Height: 6 Feet. 1 Inch(es).
Weight: 242 lbs.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=stats.fighterDetail&pid=0A567FDDAAEE226F
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I read somewhere on this forum that Ed Van Amsterdam chased that guy or something like that. Was it true? No one tried to stop the sucker puncher? Why a sucker punch? Why didn't he just face Dorian eye by eye?
Rumor has it, he didnt have anything personally against Yates. He was paid to hurt Dorian. Dorian probably had no clue to duck or defend himself. Getting hit was the last thing he expected
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I read somewhere on this forum that Ed Van Amsterdam chased that guy or something like that. Was it true? No one tried to stop the sucker puncher? Why a sucker punch? Why didn't he just face Dorian eye by eye?
I was there and didn't see Ed chasing anyone...
Dick Vrij was actually seating at the bar drinking...and as I actually met him year before, had dinner with him on the same table and suppose to go to his gym full of fighters -but didn't wake up early enough...I missed and I was going to suggest to him that I still want to go there...but under the circumstances I decided to pass it again... I said hello, he returned raising his hand...and got about 4 police officers around him...all laughing while speaking Dutch, rather than having serious conversation...one would expect for taking the report of what happened...
Right before Dick Vrij sucker punched Dorian - he punched about 7 feet tall, 350+ pounds bouncer - but there was too many people in between and probably 10 seconds later Dorian run into the "Boing 747"....
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Dick Vrij
Pro Record: 13-10-0 (Win-Loss-Draw)
Team:
Sex: Male
Height: 6 Feet. 1 Inch(es).
Weight: 242 lbs.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=stats.fighterDetail&pid=0A567FDDAAEE226F
-Big Paul-
(http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/fightfinder/Pictures/varelans.jpg)
Oh man! he got KO'd by Paul Varlens in 1998!
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Rumor has it, he didnt have anything personally against Yates. He was paid to hurt Dorian. Dorian probably had no clue to duck or defend himself. Getting hit was the last thing he expected
I just don't understand why he sucker punched Dorian, if he is such a tough fighter he should hit Dorian from the front giving Dorian some kind chance to defebd himself... for what I understood from Milo's post, it seems that Vrij punched Dorian and didn't run? Is that it? He stood there? I also don't understand why some people said that Ed Van Amsterdam tried to catch the guy ???
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I was there and didn't see Ed chasing anyone...
Dick Vrij was actually seating at the bar drinking...and as I actually met him year before, had dinner with him on the same table and suppose to go to his gym full of fighters -but didn't wake up early enough...I missed and I was going to suggest to him that I still want to go there...but under the circumstances I decided to pass it again... I said hello, he returned raising his hand...and got about 4 police officers around him...all laughing while speaking Dutch, rather than having serious conversation...one would expect for taking the report of what happened...
Right before Dick Vrij sucker punched Dorian - he punched about 7 feet tall, 350+ pounds bouncer - but there was too many people in between and probably 10 seconds later Dorian run into the "Boing 747"....
BTW - Ed Van Amsterdam is a POWERHOUSE...and he is one guy you don't want to piss off - believe me...
And when you shake hands with him - you'll instantly know that you better put smile on your face and bent over any time he looks at you funny...
First time I shook hands with him I thought he made a fist instead of giving me open hand...and than I realized his hand was open... :o :o :o...It was just soooo thick....it is ridiculous...
My two hands are not as thick as one of his...
And everything about Ed is SUPER POWERFUL...so, he would have my vote as someone I would like to represent IFBB in MMA fights against other othletes, organizations, federations or sports...
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I just don't understand why he sucker punched Dorian, if he is such a tough fighter he should hit Dorian from the front giving Dorian some kind chance to defebd himself... for what I understood from Milo's post, it seems that Vrij punched Dorian and didn't run? Is that it? He stood there? I also don't understand why some people said that Ed Van Amsterdam tried to catch the guy ???
rumor was that a angry promoter wanted revenge against Dorian...and paid the fighter to hurt Dorian
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I just don't understand why he sucker punched Dorian, if he is such a tough fighter he should hit Dorian from the front giving Dorian some kind chance to defebd himself... for what I understood from Milo's post, it seems that Vrij punched Dorian and didn't run? Is that it? He stood there? I also don't understand why some people said that Ed Van Amsterdam tried to catch the guy ???
when someone is paid to fuk someone up, they don't give them a fair chance, no matter how tough they are.
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F*ck, I'd pay $100 to see a video of that knockout!
;D ;D
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when someone is paid to fuk someone up, they don't give them a fair chance, no matter how tough they are.
Like it would have made a difference, a pro K-1 fighter with fists like cinder blocks against a couple of bodybuilders, all the muscle in the world won't save someone from a perfect shot right on the button, it's still lights out.
Look at the latest news about War Machine, he knocked out something like 7 people at a party, and he's not a HUGE 250lb. fighter..
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Like it would have made a difference, a pro K-1 fighter with fists like cinder blocks against a couple of bodybuilders, all the muscle in the world won't save someone from a perfect shot right on the button, it's still lights out.
Look at the latest news about War Machine, he knocked out something like 7 people at a party, and he's not a HUGE 250lb. fighter..
F*ck, I'd pay $100 to see a video of that knockout!
;D ;D
Dick Vrij might be big a tough but there is always somebody tougher
Like 6'8" 330lb Paul Varlens
A pro fighter going around sucker punching people needs to be locked up
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No such thing as a "sucker punch" in the real world.
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ROFL @ 747 and Unidentified Flying Object...hahahaha :D
I laughed so hard I spat out my protein shake.
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No such thing as a "sucker punch" in the real world.
Dorian was working at a bodybuilding show and the next thing he knows he is on the floor and his nose is broken. Then he finds out that a guy was paid to do it. He didnt have beef with Dorian....and Dorian didnt even see it coming.
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Dorian was working at a bodybuilding show and the next thing he knows he is on the floor and his nose is broken. Then he finds out that a guy was paid to do it. He didnt have beef with Dorian....and Dorian didnt even see it coming.
And that's how a real enforcer does his job ;D
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No such thing as a "sucker punch" in the real world.
Last time I sucker punched someone I got jumped by 3 guys ;D
well, he did look into my eyes when I punched him though,
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Arnold would have kicked crybaby Mentzers ass,and if somehow he did start to lose,Waller would have taken over for him and Waller was a bad dude from all accounts.
Mike was frustrated because he could never hope to beat Arnold so he went nuts! ;D
I'm not sure about that. Ask Dave Mass, he says Mike told him of a time he threw Arnold up against a car and Arnold was too scared to do anything.
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Milos why don't you tell the truth you just want to fight Bob Chick and M Mustaffa you have no real interest in MMA it's just another pipe dream of yours.
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Never heard that one Larry....maybe Arnold was a punk after all.
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Robby is tough, ask Shawn Perrine :D
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Never heard that one Larry....maybe Arnold was a punk after all.
Yes, next time you chat with Dave ask him about it. I can't remember all the details so it would be nice to know.
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I'm not sure about that. Ask Dave Mass, he says Mike told him of a time he threw Arnold up against a car and Arnold was too scared to do anything.
I doubt that happened.
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I doubt that happened.
Why would Dave Mass lie? Why would Mike lie?
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I'm not sure about that. Ask Dave Mass, he says Mike told him of a time he threw Arnold up against a car and Arnold was too scared to do anything.
Was this before or after Mike went crazy? Seems like the man eat, sleep, and dreamed about beating Arnold. I beleive that type of obsession can lead one to crack or become dulusional or depressed. Or he may have caught Arnold outside one time. Who knows, shit happens outside of buildings when nobody is looking.
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Oh don't forget that midget, JME.
He's gotta be one of the baddest dudes that walked the earth.
535lb bench @ 187lbs and trains the likes of Rampage and his wardrobe is nothing but Tap Out gear.
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Was this before or after Mike went crazy? Seems like the man eat, sleep, and dreamed about beating Arnold. I beleive that type of obsession can lead one to crack or become dulusional or depressed. Or he may have caught Arnold outside one time. Who knows, shit happens outside of buildings when nobody is looking.
Yes if I remember correctly what Dave told me it happened outside some resturant in LA.
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Look has nothing to do with being tough or being able to fight...
But, for all people that laugh about Dorian being knocked out by some fighter backstage at Dutch Grand prix 2003 - I want to let you know - it was a sucker punch - completely unnecessary and unavoidable...
It was during the usual post event back stage commotion - when all the competitors are trying to get dressed and leave in a hurry, with staff, family members, friends, fans...etc all run like a "stampede" overflowing narrow passage behind the stage on the way to lockerooms...
It just happens that I was closest person to Dorian when I heard loud punch maybe 2 feet away from me (slightly behind me) and than I noticed UFO (unidentified flying object) passing me to my right...
Yes, without any exaggeration - punch that Dick Vrij landed was one of the hardest punches I've witnessed it - sending about 275 pound Dorian in air (like it was movie trick...Similar with Brad Pitt in movie Snatch.../if you didn't see - rent it...great movie...and lots of fighting scenes...
However - Dorian simply walked into sucker punch - and I don't believe anyone would stand on their feet after that bomb - placed right on the button...
I read an article in a Dutch magazine called "Ringsports", interview with Dick Vrij, it said he was 115 kilo's (253 lbs) at his prime (he was on steroids he admitted),
Video of how he used to fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swvy4fbcjjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swvy4fbcjjE)
(http://www.venus.dti.ne.jp/~seijih/Pro_Wrestling/pic/dick_vrij3.jpg)
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Why would Mike lie?
To look tough?
I heard he drank his own urine.
Who knows!
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Dutch are some of the baddest mofo's in the world...amazing fighters.
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Bad ass bodybuilder such a think doesn't exist.
Bodybuilders can't fight.
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Some have worked as bouncers most of their life and average 5 fights a nite so there would be some tough ones but you are right most would be pussies.
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Milos why don't you tell the truth you just want to fight Bob Chick and M Mustaffa you have no real interest in MMA it's just another pipe dream of yours.
I don't want to fight neither Bob or Mustafa...If I would want that - don't you think I had a million chances by now...?
I am big fan of MMA...Have every PRIDE, UFC, ELITE, BODOG DVD's and many of the CAGE RAGE, KING OF THE CAGE, MAXIMUM COMBAT, IFC CAGED COMBAT, IVC,VALE TUDO, ABU DABI...etc.
With tons of instructional videos and books ...from Bas Ruten, Eddie Bravo, Randi Coutour...not to mention everything ever published from my childhood hero - Bruce Lee...
I also had spent 18 years in formal training of various forms of martial arts and combat fighting...Trained judo with Olympic medalist Slavko Obadov, boxing with hwy boxing champion who became my bodybuilding training partner - Adam Jankovic, Karate, wrestling...and certainly "street fighting"....that was way of living back in early 70's in my part of Country...
However, after sending numerous people in the hospital (where both of my parents were employed) - my father would beat me up for beating others...So, I had to make sure that whoever ends up in the hospital doesn't say my name...or else...
Well, after scare my father played with me that guy I was fighting might not survive and acknowledgment that getting engaged into physical fighting due to whatever argument is sign of inferior intelligence ...as getting physical is very easy...yet avoiding fighting by finding and implementing intelligent solution for whatever problem or dispute might not be as exciting but certainly is much more gratifying after the fact.
I never liked hurting people and if you are engaged in fight - you have no choice but hurt...or be hurt...so long ago I have decided NOT to get engaged in physical confrontation...unless is absolutely necessary (and sometimes IT IS...but most of the time ISN'T...)
So, last thing on my mind is to fight someone for wrong reason...What would I have by beating Bob, Mustafa or anyone for that matter?
However, if I would be involved in MMA tournament to display fighting skills and "heart" - it would be completely different...I would love to take that challenge...
Fighting someone as you are mad or just emotionally affected - is right away "wrong thing" to do...
You can't bring emotions in fight and your head...and everyone knows that...
If Dana White ever considers "celebrity matches" I would love to take the challenge and I did mention Randy Coutour - not because I think he would be easy opponent for me...Quite the contrary - he is someone I deeply respect and admire...and always cheer for when he is fighting...But,, being that legendary MMA champion is MY AGE and celebrated that much more for being in that kind of shape at 46...I would like to get attention of the audience and media that we BODYBUILDERS are actually athletes for life...and many of us are in incredible shape in our 50's, 60's, and even 70's...
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milos-it seems like u have good cardio endurance
unlike certian others who wheze and get out of breath walking on their junky treadmills @ 2.0 mph
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milos-it seems like u have good cardio endurance
unlike certian others who wheze and get out of breath walking on their junky treadmills @ 2.0 mph
LoL, Gene constantly brings teh funny!
Here is your reward Geneo.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/1318099760_1400e621a6.jpg)
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Milos talk is cheap no promoter in their right mind would put a hasbeen BB in the fight cage with a guy like Randi he and anyone in the fight game would pull your head off and then what???Why not work on getting back that old IFBB Pro card that seems to elude you.
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Harold Poole was a legit tough guy, back in the day. He was a the head bouncer at some big night clubs in NYC.
(http://images03.olx.com/ui/3/39/52/50993752_1.jpg)
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LOL! Milos wouldn't stand a chance against a local king of the cage middle weight amateur and he wants to fight a world class Wrestler and ex UFC champ. ::)
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LOL! Milos wouldn't stand a chance against a local king of the cage middle weight amateur and he wants to fight a world class Wrestler and ex UFC champ. ::)
Beat me to it.
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Who is the guy that speaks and stand agains anyone or even, if necessary, could brawl someone to defend his posture or his attitude?
Well I go for Milos, I think he is the badest ass in bbing!
Namat
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rumor was that a angry promoter wanted revenge against Dorian...and paid the fighter to hurt Dorian
Yep that's the story floating around in Holland.
I saw Dick Vrij 4 weeks a go at a kickboxing gala. Still an impressive guy. Big arms, thick neck. A real badass.
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I also had spent 18 years in formal training of various forms of martial arts and combat fighting...Trained judo with Olympic medalist Slavko Obadov, boxing with hwy boxing champion who became my bodybuilding training partner - Adam Jankovic, Karate, wrestling...and certainly "street fighting"....that was way of living back in early 70's in my part of Country...
However, after sending numerous people in the hospital (where both of my parents were employed) - my father would beat me up for beating others...So, I had to make sure that whoever ends up in the hospital doesn't say my name...or else...
I never liked hurting people and if you are engaged in fight - you have no choice but hurt...or be hurt...so long ago I have decided NOT to get engaged in physical confrontation...unless is absolutely necessary (and sometimes IT IS...but most of the time ISN'T...)
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha
milos 'streetfighter' sarcev - the man so tough he let half the ifbb sleep with his wife and did nothing about it hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
you couldn't make this up ::)
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I don't want to fight neither Bob or Mustafa...If I would want that - don't you think I had a million chances by now...?
I am big fan of MMA...Have every PRIDE, UFC, ELITE, BODOG DVD's and many of the CAGE RAGE, KING OF THE CAGE, MAXIMUM COMBAT, IFC CAGED COMBAT, IVC,VALE TUDO, ABU DABI...etc.
With tons of instructional videos and books ...from Bas Ruten, Eddie Bravo, Randi Coutour...not to mention everything ever published from my childhood hero - Bruce Lee...
I also had spent 18 years in formal training of various forms of martial arts and combat fighting...Trained judo with Olympic medalist Slavko Obadov, boxing with hwy boxing champion who became my bodybuilding training partner - Adam Jankovic, Karate, wrestling...and certainly "street fighting"....that was way of living back in early 70's in my part of Country...
However, after sending numerous people in the hospital (where both of my parents were employed) - my father would beat me up for beating others...So, I had to make sure that whoever ends up in the hospital doesn't say my name...or else...
Well, after scare my father played with me that guy I was fighting might not survive and acknowledgment that getting engaged into physical fighting due to whatever argument is sign of inferior intelligence ...as getting physical is very easy...yet avoiding fighting by finding and implementing intelligent solution for whatever problem or dispute might not be as exciting but certainly is much more gratifying after the fact.
I never liked hurting people and if you are engaged in fight - you have no choice but hurt...or be hurt...so long ago I have decided NOT to get engaged in physical confrontation...unless is absolutely necessary (and sometimes IT IS...but most of the time ISN'T...)
So, last thing on my mind is to fight someone for wrong reason...What would I have by beating Bob, Mustafa or anyone for that matter?
However, if I would be involved in MMA tournament to display fighting skills and "heart" - it would be completely different...I would love to take that challenge...
Fighting someone as you are mad or just emotionally affected - is right away "wrong thing" to do...
You can't bring emotions in fight and your head...and everyone knows that...
If Dana White ever considers "celebrity matches" I would love to take the challenge and I did mention Randy Coutour - not because I think he would be easy opponent for me...Quite the contrary - he is someone I deeply respect and admire...and always cheer for when he is fighting...But,, being that legendary MMA champion is MY AGE and celebrated that much more for being in that kind of shape at 46...I would like to get attention of the audience and media that we BODYBUILDERS are actually athletes for life...and many of us are in incredible shape in our 50's, 60's, and even 70's...
What end is there to all this ridiculous fighting nonsense? Even the best fighter in the world would be sheer destroyed by a hellbent army of children or women, and I'm not even talking about pepper spray, tasers or guns! Even a small boy with a gun could blow you the head of the biggest fellow. This world is focussed on brutality (hence WWE, MMA) instead of God the ALMIGHTY, who CREATES ALL and GIVES STRENGTH! Seek you Him and His ways. If humans want to glorify brutality, why not worship wild beasts? It would be a breeze for even a weakened tiger or lion or bear to destroy the strongest unarmed man who doesn't have God on His side but you can see how ludicrously foolish apotheosizing animals would be. God made these creatures far stronger than men to show us that were made not to kill but to love. Those who are destroyed of the Lord suffer such a fate for their evil, that's all. Then, it was Goliath (9 feet 9 inches) but he was destroyed by a boy David who also smote and killed the lion and the bear, that came against him, and so were his giant children destroyed by David's grooms. I mean look at how even Bruce Lee end up. Where is he now? He was born then went so swiftly as does a flashing comet, and is now sleeping in the dust, and so will all of us soon for our lives are like a wisp of mist. Men, and the glory thereof, can be likened unto grass that withers and fades but the glorious God and lofty Lord rules, and is King, forever.
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LoL, Gene constantly brings teh funny!
Here is your reward Geneo.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/1318099760_1400e621a6.jpg)
kai's haircut is spreading like a rash.
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Why would Dave Mass lie? Why would Mike lie?
Why would Mike Mentzer lie . . . ROFL.
THe Beef
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Milos find out what you would have to do to get on the ultimate fighter tv show...and go for it
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I read an article in a Dutch magazine called "Ringsports", interview with Dick Vrij, it said he was 115 kilo's (253 lbs) at his prime (he was on steroids he admitted),
Video of how he used to fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swvy4fbcjjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swvy4fbcjjE)
(http://www.venus.dti.ne.jp/~seijih/Pro_Wrestling/pic/dick_vrij3.jpg)
He doesn't seem too happy about life! :)
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He doesn't seem too happy about life! :)
well think about it, he's a pro fighter that is reduced to sneaking into bodybuilding shows to sucker punch a guy selling protein powder and pics (yates)
must be desperate for cash
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BTW - Ed Van Amsterdam is a POWERHOUSE...and he is one guy you don't want to piss off - believe me...
And when you shake hands with him - you'll instantly know that you better put smile on your face and bent over any time he looks at you funny...
First time I shook hands with him I thought he made a fist instead of giving me open hand...and than I realized his hand was open... :o :o :o...It was just soooo thick....it is ridiculous...
My two hands are not as thick as one of his...
And everything about Ed is SUPER POWERFUL...so, he would have my vote as someone I would like to represent IFBB in MMA fights against other othletes, organizations, federations or sports...
I know that.. I met him personally... he is the biggest guy I've ever seen, but he seemed to be a cool guy that likes some party lol
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Ed is quite a huge individual!
(http://www.vitargo.com/Images/News/ed_ruhl.jpg)
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Ruhl is huge and looks "normal" comparing to ED... lol
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Ed is quite a huge individual!
(http://www.vitargo.com/Images/News/ed_ruhl.jpg)
How old are they like 50's?
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How old are they like 50's?
The only way 50+ year olds are bad ass is if the have great war stories. ;)
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Ed is quite a huge individual!
(http://www.vitargo.com/Images/News/ed_ruhl.jpg)
WTF!?! Ruhl looks like a little kid next to Ed... DAMN!
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HTex, Those who have great war stories, true war stories, rarely ever mention them unless they are shooting the shit with the friends that fought along side of them.
I've sat on many awards boards, but no words I've ever read have precisely described what some of our US military guys have actually experienced.
New subject .....I know Ed well and I have a strong handshake but I've yet to meet another athlete with a bigger / stronger hand than his.