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Title: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: AVBG on February 02, 2009, 05:32:55 PM
Just heard it on PBW.

"I know I still have it"..

http://www.probodybuildingdaily.com/
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: lovemonkey on February 02, 2009, 05:51:19 PM
He's gonna look like shit, why even bother.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: jesusbod on February 02, 2009, 07:40:27 PM
He's gonna look like shit, why even bother.

Why not, he has just as good a chance to win as anyone else. At least he won't be a puny little insignificant Mr. Olympia as Dexter Jackson. Gunter would put people in the seats...
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Hunter86 on February 02, 2009, 07:42:08 PM
He's the only man to really truly defeat King Coleman  ;D
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 02, 2009, 07:56:24 PM
Why not, he has just as good a chance to win as anyone else. At least he won't be a puny little insignificant Mr. Olympia as Dexter Jackson. Gunter would put people in the seats...

At 39 coming back from retirement??

Think about it...

Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: jesusbod on February 02, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
At 39 coming back from retirement??

Think about it...



39 is not old for Bodybuilding. You think about it. How old was Coleman the last time he won the Olympia? If Gunter is 39, he is just hitting his prime as far as Bodybuilding goes.. He could teach a thing or two to the younger guys in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: AVBG on February 02, 2009, 08:41:31 PM
39 is not old for Bodybuilding. You think about it. How old was Coleman the last time he won the Olympia? If Gunter is 39, he is just hitting his prime as far as Bodybuilding goes.. He could teach a thing or two to the younger guys in more ways than one.

exactly..it's not like they're relying on their own hormonal output is it?
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Harry Spotter on February 02, 2009, 09:42:15 PM
39 is not old for Bodybuilding. You think about it. How old was Coleman the last time he won the Olympia? If Gunter is 39, he is just hitting his prime as far as Bodybuilding goes.. He could teach a thing or two to the younger guys in more ways than one.

39 is borderline middle-aged, and almost certainly post-prime. It's one thing to be 'maintaining' at age 39 by way of hormonised consistency, but to actually come back after a prolonged layoff is something entirely different. Gunter is finished.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: webcake on February 02, 2009, 09:51:33 PM
39 is borderline middle-aged, and almost certainly post-prime. It's one thing to be 'maintaining' at age 39 by way of hormonised consistency, but to actually come back after a prolonged layoff is something entirely different. Gunter is finished.

39 isn't "post-prime" for most bb'ers.

Gunter has had a good break, givin his body a rest and given his receptors a chance to recover.

Might as well make a comeback.....would sell more tickets.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: honest on February 03, 2009, 12:59:39 AM
just an opinion but i believe the receptor recovery at 39 will be quite low, i dont see him being able to regain all his size and condition of yesteryear,let alone improve,  as you get older consistency matters as harry stated, its a fineline between consistency and having good breaks, but i think Gunters clean out has been to long and if he come back, hes going to do a Nasser.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: io856 on February 03, 2009, 01:15:10 AM
given his receptors a chance to recover.


 ::)

You don't know jack sh*t.

Do ya honey?  ;D
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: DK II on February 03, 2009, 01:19:40 AM
After stopping his posting as gh15 on getbig, it's sure the God of Hormones has to do something!!
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: webcake on February 03, 2009, 02:45:44 AM
::)

You don't know jack sh*t.

Do ya honey?  ;D

We all saw his pics. He's been gone 2 years and whilst i'm not saying he was "off" the whole time, he was obviously taking WAY less than he normally was, and he would have gone periods totally off.



Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Nordic Beast on February 03, 2009, 04:06:30 AM
just an opinion but i believe the receptor recovery at 39 will be quite low, i dont see him being able to regain all his size and condition of yesteryear,let alone improve,  as you get older consistency matters as harry stated, its a fineline between consistency and having good breaks, but i think Gunters clean out has been to long and if he come back, hes going to do a Nasser.
you cant compare him to Nasser-----Nasser destroyed his physique with synthol and had mad surgeries to correct the problems, Nasser was and is also way more of a hormone abuser than Gunter, at least Gunter is naturally a big guy while Nasser was just another 160lb soccer player before going into BBing

Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: LatsMcGee on February 03, 2009, 04:09:01 AM
He should cum in his old lady instead.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 03, 2009, 07:24:39 AM
39 isn't "post-prime" for most bb'ers.

Gunter has had a good break, givin his body a rest and given his receptors a chance to recover.

Might as well make a comeback.....would sell more tickets.

There's not such thing as a good break when youre pushing 40.

Gunther wasnt a top 5 in his last mr.O...

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 03, 2009, 07:26:57 AM
39 is not old for Bodybuilding. You think about it. How old was Coleman the last time he won the Olympia? If Gunter is 39, he is just hitting his prime as far as Bodybuilding goes.. He could teach a thing or two to the younger guys in more ways than one.

Lol Comparing Gunther with 8 x Mr.O Ronnie..  LOL!!

How old was Gunther last time he did the O, and how he placed?

WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: jesusbod on February 03, 2009, 08:29:05 AM
Lol Comparing Gunther with 8 x Mr.O Ronnie..  LOL!!

How old was Gunther last time he did the O, and how he placed?

WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!

Until Jay Cutler beat Ronnie, Gunter was the only one to have done that during his Reign as Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Meso_z on February 03, 2009, 08:33:29 AM
If Gunter came back with his 2002 or 2005 shaoe he will be Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Nordic Beast on February 03, 2009, 08:37:08 AM
Lol Comparing Gunther with 8 x Mr.O Ronnie..  LOL!!

How old was Gunther last time he did the O, and how he placed?

WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
WOOOOOSSHHHHHH

wow you're quite the talented poster huh ::) :-\
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Harry Spotter on February 03, 2009, 11:09:48 PM
39 isn't "post-prime" for most bb'ers.

given his receptors a chance to recover.


Are you suggesting that Gunter's type I receptors are bound with hsp 70 and / or 90 and are primed for signal transduction, Webcke?

Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: webcake on February 04, 2009, 12:06:28 AM
Are you suggesting that Gunter's type I receptors are bound with hsp 70 and / or 90 and are primed for signal transduction, Webcke?



Who gives a shit.....he's a tall white bb'er.....we need more of them.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: TechnoViking on February 04, 2009, 12:14:06 AM
I wonder if Gunter will RE-consider his shame wedding? :-\
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Dorian01 on February 04, 2009, 12:22:59 AM
People like Couture and Ronnie Coleman are the exception, not the rule.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Dreadlord on February 04, 2009, 03:45:48 AM
His time is over
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 04, 2009, 04:11:47 AM
Haha someone needs to post that pic of his tiny bicep obviously while he was off.  The one where he's flexing it!  Gunther is all drugs.  He could most definitely bounce back.  Any of these pros could.  They are all drugs. 
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Brutal_1 on February 04, 2009, 06:46:11 AM
Haha someone needs to post that pic of his tiny bicep obviously while he was off.  The one where he's flexing it!  Gunther is all drugs.  He could most definitely bounce back.  Any of these pros could.  They are all drugs. 

exactly..it's not like they're relying on their own hormonal output is it?



Damn good points!  ;)
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 04, 2009, 07:14:41 AM
Actually, assuming he was off juice the last year or so, he could have a tremendous response to gear . He could actually be even better than he was before. Levrone could blow up 50 pounds or so now real quick if he wanted to as well. The drugs work better when you've been off for an extended period. Even though Arnold wasn't at his best in 1980, he blew up unbelievably in less than 10 weeks on gear after not competing for 5 years. Also, some people respond better to hormones than others. 
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Brutal_1 on February 04, 2009, 07:32:07 AM
Actually, assuming he was off juice the last year or so, he could have a tremendous response to gear . He could actually be even better  than he was before. Levrone could blow up 50 pounds or so now real quick if he wanted to as well. The drugs work better when you've been off for an extended period. Even though Arnold wasn't at his best in 1980, he blew up unbelievably in less than 10 weeks on gear after not competing for 5 years. Also, some people respond better to hormones than others. 

You realize you shot yourself in the foot with that example of Arnold, right?
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: DK II on February 04, 2009, 08:00:39 AM
Lmao, there is no way Arnold was off the sauce until he got into politics.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 04, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Lmao, there is no way Arnold was off the sauce until he got into politics.
I saw him several times in 78 and 79 and he was pretty small. He couldn't have weighed more than 205-210. Doubt he was on the sauce then.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 04, 2009, 11:03:11 AM
You realize you shot yourself in the foot with that example of Arnold, right?
Not really, to not compete or train really hard for 5 years and then to juice and train for 10 weeks and show up on the Olympia stage is pretty amazing. Whether he should have won or not, he was definitely top 5. I doubt too many people could have pulled that off.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: tbombz on February 04, 2009, 11:09:07 AM
Actually, assuming he was off juice the last year or so, he could have a tremendous response to gear . He could actually be even better than he was before. Levrone could blow up 50 pounds or so now real quick if he wanted to as well. The drugs work better when you've been off for an extended period. Even though Arnold wasn't at his best in 1980, he blew up unbelievably in less than 10 weeks on gear after not competing for 5 years. Also, some people respond better to hormones than others. 
they work better? nah... they bring you back up to where you were...because youve gotten alot smaller..... AAS dont work better by coming off....  if you come off, youll lose size, then when you go bakc on youll regain that size very quickly.. thats muscle memory, not the drugs working better......     hormones(AAS) work better and better with time... not the other way...
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 04, 2009, 11:21:24 AM
they work better? nah... they bring you back up to where you were...because youve gotten alot smaller..... AAS dont work better by coming off....  if you come off, youll lose size, then when you go bakc on youll regain that size very quickly.. thats muscle memory, not the drugs working better......     hormones(AAS) work better and better with time... not the other way...
Not quite true. There comes a point where the body no longer has the same response. That's why there's a lot of guys on hormone replacement ,that find in the early stages their libido improves, they put on muscle burn fat. Then after a few years, the libido actually diminishes and doesn't respond with even higher doses. One of the reasons I won't do HRT yet.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: lovemonkey on February 04, 2009, 11:42:51 AM
they work better? nah... they bring you back up to where you were...because youve gotten alot smaller..... AAS dont work better by coming off....  if you come off, youll lose size, then when you go bakc on youll regain that size very quickly.. thats muscle memory, not the drugs working better......     hormones(AAS) work better and better with time... not the other way...

Epic trying to mimmick the gh15 posting style. His cock is so far down your throat it's ridiculous. Admit you idolize him.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 04, 2009, 01:51:10 PM
Not really, to not compete or train really hard for 5 years and then to juice and train for 10 weeks and show up on the Olympia stage is pretty amazing. Whether he should have won or not, he was definitely top 5. I doubt too many people could have pulled that off.

Not that amazing considering he was only 33 years old when he made his comeback,

Just think that Ronnie won his 1st Mr.O at 34 still a year older than Arnold's last one.


WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: disco_stu on February 04, 2009, 02:54:47 PM
If Gunter came back with his 2002 or 2005 shaoe he will be Mr. Olympia.

i agree. he was awesome...a little different to what we're used to, but balanced and polished nonetheless...
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: Meso_z on February 04, 2009, 03:08:47 PM
i agree. he was awesome...a little different to what we're used to, but balanced and polished nonetheless...

Hes how a Mr. Olympia should look like and act like.

6 months have passed and yet we havent seen "Dex" come and talk to any tv show etc so bbing can get some exposure to the public. He cant even "talk" thats the problem... Gunter would be a great Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: luvvsuNOT on February 04, 2009, 03:15:16 PM
they work better? nah... they bring you back up to where you were...because youve gotten alot smaller..... AAS dont work better by coming off....  if you come off, youll lose size, then when you go bakc on youll regain that size very quickly.. thats muscle memory, not the drugs working better......     hormones(AAS) work better and better with time... not the other way...

If at a given dose aas works better with time why would you need to increase your dose to continue making gains And whouldn't you be able to decrease your dose to maintain your present size and condition?
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 04, 2009, 05:33:51 PM
  A 40 year-old man has a muscle density that you guy wouldn't believe: he literally makes young men in their twenties and early thirties look like boys. Shawn Ray agrees with me, since he remarked about Coleman when he was doing the commenting for the 2005 Olympia that being over 40 separated Coleman from the rest of the pack, giving him a muscle maturity and hardness that the other guys couldn't match. Coleman was almost 42 at the 2005 Olympia.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: webcake on February 04, 2009, 05:38:17 PM
  A 40 year-old man has a muscle density that you guy wouldn't believe: he literally makes young men in their twenties and early thirties look like boys. Shawn Ray agrees with me, since he remarked about Coleman when he was doing the commenting for the 2005 Olympia that being over 40 separated Coleman from the rest of the pack, giving him a muscle maturity and hardness that the other guys couldn't match. Coleman was almost 42 at the 2005 Olympia.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I agree here.

Ronnie in 2005 was, imo, a very underrated year. Ronnie was DRY in 2005. His quads looked like they were stone.

I hope Gunter comes back. When i first started following bb'ing, Gunter was one of my favourites.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: lovemonkey on February 04, 2009, 05:39:17 PM
  A 40 year-old man has a muscle density that you guy wouldn't believe: he literally makes young men in their twenties and early thirties look like boys. Shawn Ray agrees with me, since he remarked about Coleman when he was doing the commenting for the 2005 Olympia that being over 40 separated Coleman from the rest of the pack, giving him a muscle maturity and hardness that the other guys couldn't match. Coleman was almost 42 at the 2005 Olympia.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Aw ffs when are you clowns going to realize that it's not the muscles that "mature", it's the skin!!

The skin becomes more loose and saggy as you age and at a certain golden point, the loose skin gives an appearance of less stiff muscles underneath. The skin follows the contours of muscle better.  After that it's just downhill as it gets even more saggy, which now can be seen on Coleman.

I challenge you to find any medical article that suggests that the muscles "mature".
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: chainsaw on February 04, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
Bob is an O.K MC....  Far from good.  He could be with some more live work.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: honest on February 04, 2009, 06:19:24 PM
I stand by what i say, i dont think Gunter will come back better than before, for the sake of the arguements for and against lets hope he does. I think the break is too long to be beneficial at 40, i believe after such a break, his body ability to control cortisol in a way in which his body once did will be decreased, so having fresh receptors wont matter as i believe with age what finishes guys off as they get older in this sport is not the bad response to hormones as we age but the drugs ability to control cortisol levels in the body as they once did. Just an opinion, i cant back it up with science just an observation.
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 04, 2009, 06:48:06 PM
Aw ffs when are you clowns going to realize that it's not the muscles that "mature", it's the skin!!

  It doesen't really matter. What causes the muscles to look more mature is irrelevant, since the effect is the same: the muscles look harder and more developed. Whether it's caused by the muscle fibers changing their structure or the skin becoming looser is immaterial, since the end result is the same.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on February 04, 2009, 06:49:43 PM
  It doesen't really matter. What causes the muscles to look more mature is irrelevant, since the effect is the same: the muscles look harder and more developed. Whether it's caused by the muscle fibers changing their structure or the skin becoming looser is immaterial, since the end result is the same.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Muscle Maturity.  ;)
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: TechnoViking on February 08, 2009, 09:13:06 PM
Gunter needs to forget about a comeback and try to get them to make a sequel to BeerFest...
Title: Re: Gunter considering 09 comeback
Post by: clownbaby on February 08, 2009, 09:29:58 PM
Gunter needs to forget about a comeback and try to get them to make a sequel to BeerFest...

beerfest was a movie for the ages....landfill 1 and landfill 2