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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 04:04:29 PM »
Still more evidence to support the creation theory.   :)

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 09:02:02 PM »
That's the thing though....Does it really matter how we got here?  What matters is we are here now.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 05:52:08 AM »
That's what I always tell myself when I get into "question" mode and begin getting frustrated with the how's and what's and when's.  I'm really not going to be concerned with finding out the answer to the questions we ask here on earth.  It'll just be so wonderful to be in the very presence of God.   ;D

Ok, so I might want to see if I can outbench Sampson if he's up there.  lol

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 08:32:43 AM »
That's what I always tell myself when I get into "question" mode and begin getting frustrated with the how's and what's and when's.  I'm really not going to be concerned with finding out the answer to the questions we ask here on earth.  It'll just be so wonderful to be in the very presence of God.   ;D

Ok, so I might want to see if I can outbench Sampson if he's up there.  lol

Make sure sampson gets his hair cut first  ;)

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 09:10:31 AM »
monster unbiased source.  ;D

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 10:17:54 AM »
monster unbiased source.  ;D

Is there such a thing?  I doubt most people who research and write about the origin of life are unbiased, one way or the other.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 01:37:40 PM »
Even if the source is biased, the article suggests that the Christian theory wouldn't be valid, due to incorrect timeline.

So neither Christians or Atheists gets any help from this article.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2006, 03:57:29 PM »
Birds and Dinosaurs lived alongside.

As Dinosaurs lived some of them were evolved into birds. I'm sure a fossil will pop up somewhere and that'll send the creation and intelligent design folks back to the drawing board.
They tried the same shit with Whales and once a major fossil popped up they got owned.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2006, 07:02:02 PM »
Only problem is there are no transitional fossils, so they won't be popping up anywhere.  You'd think that if we had this enormous evolution of species that the fossil record would be full of transitional fossils.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2006, 12:15:20 AM »
Only problem is there are no transitional fossils, so they won't be popping up anywhere.  You'd think that if we had this enormous evolution of species that the fossil record would be full of transitional fossils.

the gaps in the "chain" are indeed strange . . . there is evidence that there were more homo species than the bible accounts for, but nothing to contradict the creation account if you read it figuratively . . . at some point God breathed "life" into what was once "dust" . . . and the rest is history.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2006, 08:00:01 AM »
Make sure sampson gets his hair cut first  ;)

LOL!  Nah, I want him at his best.  Dude was probably doing 600lbs for 10-15 reps.   8)

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2006, 11:37:30 PM »
The bird has always been just that...A Bird!

Good job Sherlock! Evolution involves change in a species over generations to better adapt to the environment. By definition when a species evolves into new species, it becomes extinct. Your thread title makes as much sense as saying "humans have always been." However, homo habilis and homo erectus preceded modern-day humans.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2006, 02:03:35 AM »
Good job Sherlock! Evolution involves change in a species over generations to better adapt to the environment. By definition when a species evolves into new species, it becomes extinct. Your thread title makes as much sense as saying "humans have always been." However, homo habilis and homo erectus preceded modern-day humans.

Nice one Watson!   :)  If each prior species became extinct upon the "evolution" into a new species, shouldn't we all be the same species?   

Now tell us what species a bird evolved from.   

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2006, 02:56:59 AM »
If each prior species became extinct upon the "evolution" into a new species, shouldn't we all be the same species?

No

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Now tell us what species a bird evolved from.

You can look it up.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2006, 07:19:33 AM »
Quote from: NeoSeminole
No
You can look it up.
Johnny? 

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2006, 09:42:15 AM »
Johnny? 

lol.  He's everywhere!   ;D 

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2006, 09:44:10 AM »
No

You can look it up.

Hahaha.   ;D  Okay.  I'll go look up something that doesn't exist.  Be right back . . . .

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2006, 12:12:51 PM »
wow, I guess birds didn't evolve b/c you say so  ::)

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2006, 12:33:55 PM »
wow, I guess birds didn't evolve b/c you say so  ::)

I guess they did because you say so.   ::) 

Quite a high level discussion we're having here. ;D

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2006, 01:09:11 PM »
I guess they did because you say so.   ::) 

Quite a high level discussion we're having here. ;D
I'll say! 

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2006, 01:24:14 PM »
I guess they did because you say so.   ::) 

Quite a high level discussion we're having here. ;D

Silly bum, birds didn't evolve b/c I say so. Birds evolved b/c science has found evidence that supports this premise. You refuse to look at the evidence when it's a simple click away.

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2006, 07:48:44 PM »
Silly bum, birds didn't evolve b/c I say so. Birds evolved b/c science has found evidence that supports this premise. You refuse to look at the evidence when it's a simple click away.

I refuse to look for nonexistent facts to support your argument.   

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2006, 09:24:57 PM »
Fine with me. The only person you are hurting is yourself with your ignorance.  ;)

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Re: The bird has always been just that....A Bird!
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2006, 09:44:32 PM »
Fine with me. The only person you are hurting is yourself with your ignorance.  ;)

Ah, but ignorance is bliss.  Or say they say.   :)