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Dorian seems bitter about the royal family in the UK, which I totally understand for the most part. But I'll be honestly here, if I were Dorian and got knighted for being the best UK bodybuilder in the world, I'd use that to my advantage. Bodybuilding would be recognized more and even legitimized in a way, in the UK at least. Now, I think the fact that pro bodybuilders are so "obviously" on steroids would mean that knighthood isn't in Dorian's future. BUT, the fact that steroids are legal to possess/use in the UK might actually help.
In any case, I still have massive respect for the man. And even in retirement he's still an interesting guy with a lot to say (minus the whole Holocaust thing...)
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Holocaust thing ?
He doesn't mention that here....
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Holocaust thing ?
He doesn't mention that here....
I didn't say he did. I'm just saying in GENERAL everything he talks about is interesting, I just remember the whole holocaust thing, which I wasn't too fond of. Other than that, the dude has a lot of interesting stories and opinions.
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They seem to be tossing about that term "sport" an awful lot for discussing a beauty pageant. ;D
But to be fair, there are lots of people who have received knighthood for shooting insane amounts of drugs, Elton John being a prime example.
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he's a bit of a nutcase isnt he?
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Knighthood is worthless these days, far too many fags, peados and worthless pieces of shit got them
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Independent thinker.
I like that type of people.
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Still cycling, I see :D ;D
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Why would he even discuss being knighted, not like he'd ever be on the radar for it
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Why would he even discuss being knighted, not like he'd ever be on the radar for it
It was one of the questions asked in the interview.
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Good on Dorian - He Speaks his mind.
He has a lot of interesting views.
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ah, gotcha
It was one of the questions asked in the interview.
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I didn't say he did. I'm just saying in GENERAL everything he talks about is interesting, I just remember the whole holocaust thing, which I wasn't too fond of. Other than that, the dude has a lot of interesting stories and opinions.
Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?
Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??
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Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?
Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??
Fact is that sane people rather believe things which are proved, while idiots like you believes all the foil hat crap they found. As always, you don't have anything which would prove that holocaust didn't happen. All you have is denial and futile speculations, which stupidity shows how childish minds are feeding this bullshit to you, but you still believe every fucking word in it. That makes it ridiculously easy to give you some questions knowing that you don't have any answers. Are you ready? Here it comes: If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war?
And while you are searching through foil hat crap piles of the internet finding nothing like evidence, let me explain this simple matter to other readers: Whole "holohoax"- bullshit is insane try to clean reputation of the nazis, by the insane neo nazis. Most of the claims in it comes from the palestine etc. jew haters and have been around from the fifties. These foil hat idiots have adopt the claims without any thinking and not understanding that those claims are just ridiculous bullshit. For example, how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for that by the nazis? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"? Bit thick, ain't it? ;D
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Fact is that sane people rather believe things which are proved, while idiots like you believes all the foil hat crap they found. As always, you don't have anything which would prove that holocaust didn't happen. All you have is denial and futile speculations, which stupidity shows how childish minds are feeding this bullshit to you, but you still believe every fucking word in it. That makes it ridiculously easy to give you some questions knowing that you don't have any answers. Are you ready? Here it comes: If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war?
And while you are searching through foil hat crap piles of the internet finding nothing like evidence, let me explain this simple matter to other readers: Whole "holohoax"- bullshit is insane try to clean reputation of the nazis, by the insane neo nazis. Most of the claims in it comes from the palestine etc. jew haters and have been around from the fifties. These foil hat idiots have adopt the claims without any thinking and not understanding that those claims are just ridiculous bullshit. For example, how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for that by the nazis? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"? Bit thick, ain't it? ;D
Hey Ropo. Feel most free to go fuck yourself. Dorian is good people. You're a beta twink.
FUCK YOU.
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Dorian is the Man. shoots straight from the hip.
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Fact is that I'm a retard ;D
Yep.
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Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?
Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??
You realize 6M is an estimate, right? Not exact figure... Of course it wasn't 6M on the DOT. My family is not only from the ex Soviet Union (Ukraine, to be exact) where Holodomor HAPPENED. But I'm also half Jewish, so, not only, did my family starve at the hands of the Soviets, but half almost got exterminated by the Nazis. So yeah, this is A BIT personal for me. Now please, kindly, go fuck yourself with your tin foil hat bullshit.
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Anyone who says the Holocaust never happened is just an asshole. No one can say how many died but fact is people were killed. Does it matter how many were murdered? The Jews and Soviet people were murdered by the Nazis.
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Anyone who says the Holocaust never happened is just an asshole. No one can say how many died but fact is people were killed. Does it matter how many were murdered? The Jews and Soviet people were murdered by the Nazis.
Soviet people were also murdered by the Soviets, that's the saddest part.
The Nazis were bad enough, but Stalin didn't help the cause. If Hitler didn't attack first, we might be talking about Stalin being the worst man in history, today. The guy was afraid of his own shadow and killed everyone who even hinted at disagreeing with him. He murdered most of his beset generals and strategists.
Fuck both of them. They're both filth.
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Soviet people were also murdered by the Soviets, that's the saddest part.
The Nazis were bad enough, but Stalin didn't help the cause. If Hitler didn't attack first, we might be talking about Stalin being the worst man in history, today. The guy was afraid of his own shadow and killed everyone who even hinted at disagreeing with him. He murdered most of his beset generals and strategists.
Fuck both of them. They're both filth.
Stalin even treated his own son like shit. His son surrendered to the Nazis.
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The Soviets were mostly Jews who killed millions of non Jewish Christians. Hitler was actually fighting the Communist Jews in Germany and Russia.
FAR MORE NON JEWS dies in WWII than Jews. But Jews don't care about others.
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The Soviets were mostly Jews who killed millions of non Jewish Christians. Hitler was actually fighting the Communist Jews in Germany and Russia.
FAR MORE NON JEWS dies in WWII than Jews. But Jews don't care about others.
There was a lot of death during WW2, I don't disagree. The reason the Jews are at the center of it is because they were systematically targeted. I don't disagree that tons of non-Jews died. Again, my non-Jewish half experienced a lot of death during combat. All of my great grandfathers died in battle. ALL of them. Not a single one came back alive. That whole generation was raised by my great grandmothers and their family members.
And you're an idiot for saying that Sovets were mostly Jews. Sure, there WERE Jews in power, but Stalin killed all the smart ones off anyway. The Jews originally supported the revolutionaries because they were promised equal rights under the new rule. Believe me when I tell you this, ESPECIALLY after WW2, but even some time before that, my entire Jewish side of the family couldn't stand the communists. No one on either side of my family (except my Aunt who married into the family, and on the non-Jewish side) was a registered communist. You'd think if there were so many Jews in the Soviet hierarchy my Jewish family would have sided with them and wouldn't have been starved, like everyone else.
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There was a lot of death during WW2, I don't disagree. The reason the Jews are at the center of it is because they were systematically targeted. I don't disagree that tons of non-Jews died. Again, my non-Jewish half experienced a lot of death during combat. All of my great grandfathers died in battle. ALL of them. Not a single one came back alive. That whole generation was raised by my great grandmothers and their family members.
And you're an idiot for saying that Sovets were mostly Jews. Sure, there WERE Jews in power, but Stalin killed all the smart ones off anyway. The Jews originally supported the revolutionaries because they were promised equal rights under the new rule. Believe me when I tell you this, ESPECIALLY after WW2, but even some time before that, my entire Jewish side of the family couldn't stand the communists. No one on either side of my family (except my Aunt who married into the family, and on the non-Jewish side) was a registered communist. You'd think if there were so many Jews in the Soviet hierarchy my Jewish family would have sided with them and wouldn't have been starved, like everyone else.
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While in Germany socialism has attracted individual Jews, in Russia it has become a movement of the Jewish masses.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13822-socialism#ixzz1CTFjOee3
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10 million people. I bet your kids never got taught about Genrikh Yagoda in school, or never saw a Hollywood movie about his atrocities.
And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."
Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women
BTW this quote is from an Israeli news site....
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
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He is already Sir Dorian in Bodybuilding so why bother?
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Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?
Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??
truth!!!!!!!!!
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Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?
Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??
Well said - 👍🏻
You make some very truthful & interesting points
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truth!!!!!!!!!
No, it is just bullshit. As you see at the first page, I make a simple question about the matter, and none of you can give an answer for it. If that what he is presenting would be true, it would be possible to prove, and it isn't. You can't prove lies to be truth, and he can't prove shit. Not in this theory, or any other theory he spread in his blind faith. That is the truth of the matter ;D
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Still cycling, I see :D ;D
haha ok joke...... :D
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Anyone who says the Holocaust never happened is just an asshole. No one can say how many died but fact is people were killed. Does it matter how many were murdered? The Jews and Soviet people were murdered by the Nazis.
Did Dorian say this ?
Link please....
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Good on Dorian - He Speaks his mind.
He has a lot of interesting views.
True. But he still oiled himself up and posed in a glittery thong for gay men for a living. And thinks that there's a possibility of the "elite" asking him to be Knighted for posing in a thong...Beyond delusional...
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Fact is that sane people rather believe things which are proved, while idiots like you believes all the foil hat crap they found. As always, you don't have anything which would prove that holocaust didn't happen. All you have is denial and futile speculations, which stupidity shows how childish minds are feeding this bullshit to you, but you still believe every fucking word in it. That makes it ridiculously easy to give you some questions knowing that you don't have any answers. Are you ready? Here it comes: If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war?
And while you are searching through foil hat crap piles of the internet finding nothing like evidence, let me explain this simple matter to other readers: Whole "holohoax"- bullshit is insane try to clean reputation of the nazis, by the insane neo nazis. Most of the claims in it comes from the palestine etc. jew haters and have been around from the fifties. These foil hat idiots have adopt the claims without any thinking and not understanding that those claims are just ridiculous bullshit. For example, how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for that by the nazis? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"? Bit thick, ain't it? ;D
And where is your proof that 6 million died (which is not even a big number to begin with compared with how many Europeans died)???
Ropo, you are in denial. Your world view is shattered when history as written by the victors are questioned. You are an individual that does not question anything. You except everything you are told. How did you become so gullible and naive? In your world there are no corrupt politicians (lol) even when it is clear just looking around you that there is corruption everywhere. In your world there are no conspiracies - humans simply do not conspire against other humans. Not sure how you can explain that though because then there would be no crime in the world if there were no conspiracies. There would be no wars.
Do you know the definition of a conspiracy? We already know by now you did not know the definition of diameter so I am just checking.
If anyone on Getbig is a moron / fool it is you, you dumb old fuck!
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True. But he still oiled himself up and posed in a glittery thong for gay men for a living. And thinks that there's a possibility of the "elite" asking him to be Knighted for posing in a thong...Beyond delusional...
Plenty of women and straight men follow BB as well. Its only gay if you want it to be :P
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https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322 (https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322)
Here are some of the arguments against the claim that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.
Common sense: if we had not all been hypnotised or intimidated into committing the logical fallacy of argument from authority. No proof has even been given that 6 million were murdered.
1:Butz’s argument: At the end of the war they were still there.
Douglas reed also mentions this in his book "Far and wide". The United Nations figure for Jewish world population given in 1947 was the same as that given by the League of Nations in 1938.So not that many Jews died in the war, not millions anyway.
2:Most people can’t understand that the media is not their friend, and has lied to them. They give an ostrich response and are neither intelligent enough nor brave enough to face the world without comforting fantasies. www.ussliberty.org : one of the most brazen examples of media cover-up. www.ukar.org : plenty of others.
"If some know-it-all tries to expose you, the others will not listen to him and will condemn him, because by exposing you he is proving them guilty of stupidity, and the crowd will not forgive this." From a text published in Tel Aviv in 1958.
The Media lied in WW1 and the British apologised afterwards.
3:People can’t understand how so many eyewitnesses can lie, they have seen the television programmes.
Well until 1960 the holocaust lobby said there were death camps all over Western Europe and there were plenty of witnesses to that, e.g. Dr blaha at Nuremberg. Then gas chambers were quietly dropped except at those camps where the commies could keep scrutiny out.
An Orwellian rewriting of History was effected and all our university Historians and Media swallowed it like the whores they are.
No evidence was given for this change, just one letter by martin brozstat in der zeit. A good article on this can be found at www.faem.com by Major Stano called "House of Orwell".
This is an argument I have found effective with some people if I can keep their attention on it. Too often people are intimidated by political correctness. Totem and taboo, these born slaves are genetically stuck down in Plato’s cave.
Another example of the brazen orwelling of history is the change of the plaque at Auschwitz. (See my leaflet for the before an after photos)
Jews complained about a holocaust in 1919! "Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." --The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919) The Talmud also has atrocity claims which demonstrate the Jewish mentality: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.
4:Basic laws of chemistry and physics preclude Holocaust from having happened. Leucter etc .No Cyanide traces in alleged gas chambers. The establishment in Germany recently conceded this point see www.fpp.co.uk
In a sane society people would not have to disprove what common sense should be enough to tell you. The biggest psychological barrier people have to cross is the realisation that their society really is that corrupt, not anything to do with the holocaust story itself, which is really far fetched.
6: Revisionists have been imprisoned .If the holocaust was true it would be possible to have an open debate as those with the truth have nothing to fear from debate.
The lack of debate is indicative of a religious dogma, liberalism becoming a religion because of the power of the media to control info.
I heard one guy one the BBC saying most people thought the Germans who were massacred "got what they deserved", this attitude is a result of holocaust propaganda.
Revisionists are often accused of being Nazis by people as a circular logic propaganda trick and to the extent that some propagandised members of the public just assume this as almost a reflex. But surely if the Holocaust happened then maybe today neo-nazis would ignore it or blame it on one person like the left blames all its sins on Stalin. Denial of facts is very much a characteristic of the atavistic enemies of western civilisation, like those who tell us that race doesn't exist etc. The media doesn't even have to deny allied war crimes; it just doesn't bother to mention them.
The media has started generating prop to cover this point. I saw a programme with Irish journalist Fergal Keane on how the Turks deny the Armenian Genocide, and the comparison has also been made in responses from academics to me.
The three mass murders Trotsky (Jewish: real name bronstein), Lenin (I have seen many accounts of his ancestry) and Kaganovich (Jewish) are rarely mentioned in the controlled media.
The Brits put up a statue to bomber Harris who burned plenty of civilians. You see the Germans deserved it.
The fact that the media in the west suppressed information about the Jewishness of communism in the USSR was actually a causal factor of WW2.The holocaust is the tip of the iceberg of suppressed xxth century history.
7:The state of Israel would not exist if the holocaust had happened. World Jewry would have been too weakened.
8:The falsification of documents by the allies. Most people haven’t examined Nuremberg proceedings.
It takes about 5 minutes of reading the Nuremberg documents to realise that the holocaust is a hoax www.cwporter.com
9:Use of torture by allies in ‘War crimes trials’, commented upon by Senator McCarthy. Witch trial methods same methods proving similar impossibilities.
10:British letters by British ministry of Information, statements by Sefton Delmer.
Anyone Reading these would understand the politics involved and why the hoax was necessary for the allies.
11:Falsification of Photos and their use in books and television programmes. For example Spielberg’s survivor programme used false photos exposed by Udo Walendy to prop up weak survivor testimony.www.ukar.org has good article on this.
12:Violation of Occam’s razor, again and again. See Jurgen Graf’s demolition of Hilberg’s book.
Absurd rationalisations needed, Germans supposed to speak in code, when allies spoke bluntly of mass murder of Germans.
13:Quoting a few of the eyewitnesses is a good persuader, and don’t let the audience rationalise the examples away, for example the witnesses Hilberg uses in his ‘definitive’ book.
Elie Wiesel (who was given Nobel Prize) supposedly in Auschwitz but he never saw as chambers. Muller and bucket of jumping human flesh, lengyal and human sausages. Friedman in Zundel trial and colour-coded smoke by country of origin. Wiesel's geysers of blood.
And so on.
14:Red cross report from 1948 spoke of 300,000 deaths in camps mainly of disease, so holocaust not possible. Vatican also did not support allied genocide claims. Butz’s elephant in my basement argument. " I do not see an elephant in my basement, an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement, therefore there is no elephant in my basement"
Circular logic prop is used to try to shore up this leak, for example the various books making out the pope was a bit of a nazi, websites on clerofascism etc. people are so browbeaten by the orthodox consensus coming from all media and public figures that you see an orwellian crimestop reflex and people don't even stop to think about the absurdity of the claims because all dissent is so totally suppressed. Even the Internet is getting increasingly censored as the Jews work away at destroying this last refuge of free thought.
You get an exponential run away effect of absurdity just like with a religion where no part of the myth can be open to question.
15: The dropping of early absurdities such as steam chambers and electrocution platforms. This is not History but propaganda.
Famous Pravda article on Auschwitz."Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" graves in the Eastern part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured; even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages. But even so one can see the traces of the murder of millions of people! From the stories of prisoners, liberated by the Red Army, it is not difficult to make out all that the Germans tried so carefully to conceal. This gigantic industrial plant of death was equipped with the last word in fascist technology and was furnished with all of the instruments of torture which the German monsters could devise."
16:Obvious Zionist need for the holocaust, though as most people are politically retarded this will go over their heads.
17:Need of entrenched oligarchies for the Hoax. False democracy possible, opposition is tabooed out of existence.
18:No budget, plan or order documentation for any genocide.
19:All the eyewitnesses who testify that there were no gas chambers or genocide are ignored or even imprisoned.
20: Much bigger crimes (and ones that actually occurred at that) are ignored, so there is something odd about the holocaust. The Holocaust lobby shot themselves in the foot, inadvertently damning themselves with overemphasis.
I remember as a child resenting that my history book called the killing of 6 million Jews ‘the most terrible crime in history’. Why would it be? Are Jewish lives worth more or something?
And if we are westerners why should we give a damn?
Are we too gentle to survive in a harsh world?
According to Dagobert Rune Hip Hip Hurray comes from a Roman toast celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.
Why 500 films about the holocaust and none (or none that I'm aware of) about the gulags?
Something is rotten in Denmark!
That the fantastical 6 million are treated as if they were 200 million should trigger some awareness on some level.
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No, it is just bullshit. As you see at the first page, I make a simple question about the matter, and none of you can give an answer for it. If that what he is presenting would be true, it would be possible to prove, and it isn't. You can't prove lies to be truth, and he can't prove shit. Not in this theory, or any other theory he spread in his blind faith. That is the truth of the matter ;D
Same can be said for you. You can't prove shit either. However if such a large percentage of jews were killed why did the World Almanac report so many after the war? Perhaps because they did not yet come up with the magical 6 million number? LMAO!
"The World Almanac series of books sometimes provided two sets of figures for the world Jewish population. One came from the AJC (American Jewish Committee), and the other is the World Almanac's own estimation.
1933 : 15,316,359 (AJC), page 419
1934 : ???
1935 : ???
1936 : 15,753,633, page 748
1937 : ???
1938 : 15,748,091 (AJC), page 510
1939 : uses 1938 data
1940 : 15,290,983 (AJC), page 519; 15,319,359 (Almanac), page 129
1941 : uses 1938 data
1942 : 15,192,089, page 849
1943 : uses 1942 data
1944 : uses 1942 data
1945 : 15,688,259 (AJC), page 494; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1946 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 488; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1947 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 219; 15,690,000 (Almanac), page 748
1948 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 249; 15,753,638 (Almanac), page 849
1949 : n/a (AJC); 15,713,638 (Almanac), page 289
1950 : n/a (AJC); n/a (Almanac)
In 1949, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1939 and 1947:
1949 AJC revision for 1939 : 16,643,120, page 204
1949 AJC revision for 1947 : 11,266,600, page 204
After 1949, the World Almanac discontinued providing their own estimations, instead, they only reported the numbers given by AJC. In 1950, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1948:
1950 AJC revision for 1948 : 11,373,000, page 473
So, let's brief this quickly. The last available pre-war number comes from 1938. In 1940, they somehow got a new estimation. In 1941, they use the 1938 number, not the 1940 number. In 1942, they got a new estimation, which was then used in both the 1943 and 1944 versions, until the war ended and they made a new estimation for 1945, which was then used for 1946, 1947 and 1948. In 1949, the Almanac made an estimation of their own, whereas the AJC decided to revise the 1947 number instead.
15,688,259 - 11,266,600 = 4,421,659
Hmm, 4,4 million missing Jews. No, that can't be right. We all knew 6 million died before the Nuremberg Trials began anyway. So what to do? Well, the AJC had a great idea! They revised the 1939 number by adding 1 million Jews.
895,029 to be precise. So:
4,421,659 + 895,029 = 5,316,688
Bingo. The official Holocaust story goes that somewhere from 5,4 to 6 million Jews died. The number was predetermined and the AJC played along. Somehow they knew, 10 years later in 1949, that the 1938 and 1939 numbers were wrong. No mention of their source, no mention of their methodology used. They just changed the number. Poof.
Historians will tell you the added one million Jews comes from the Wannsee Conference, where the Nazis counted 11,000,000 Jews in Europe, but it is known that this number was exaggerated by roughly two million, therefore their point is moot. The additional one million are imaginary Jews, added for the sole purpose of having more Jews killed on paper. This is one of the essential bits of the lie that six million Jews died, but as we can, it couldn't possibly be six million, but 4,4 million maximum.
Now, this doesn't mean 4,4 million Jews died, because they didn't, it's just that most Jews after the war spread all over the world, took gentile names and became crypto-Jews. What's more, the AJC stopped reporting the actual number of Jews for current years, instead, they reported for two years back. Starting with 1949 when they "revised" the 1947 number, then in 1950 when they "revised" the 1948 number. They just kept "revising" the number of Jews two years back, ignoring the actual numbers. I wonder why?
Here's something interesting:
The 1933 World Almanac lists 682,400,000 Christians. The 1949 World Almanac lists 592,406,542 Christians. That's 89,993,458 less.
The Handbook of Council of Churches in the USA from 1951 lists 15,300,000 Jews."
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Same can be said for you. You can't prove shit either. However if such a large percentage of jews were killed why did the World Almanac report so many after the war? Perhaps because they did not yet come up with the magical 6 million number? LMAO!
"The World Almanac series of books sometimes provided two sets of figures for the world Jewish population. One came from the AJC (American Jewish Committee), and the other is the World Almanac's own estimation.
1933 : 15,316,359 (AJC), page 419
1934 : ???
1935 : ???
1936 : 15,753,633, page 748
1937 : ???
1938 : 15,748,091 (AJC), page 510
1939 : uses 1938 data
1940 : 15,290,983 (AJC), page 519; 15,319,359 (Almanac), page 129
1941 : uses 1938 data
1942 : 15,192,089, page 849
1943 : uses 1942 data
1944 : uses 1942 data
1945 : 15,688,259 (AJC), page 494; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1946 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 488; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1947 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 219; 15,690,000 (Almanac), page 748
1948 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 249; 15,753,638 (Almanac), page 849
1949 : n/a (AJC); 15,713,638 (Almanac), page 289
1950 : n/a (AJC); n/a (Almanac)
In 1949, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1939 and 1947:
1949 AJC revision for 1939 : 16,643,120, page 204
1949 AJC revision for 1947 : 11,266,600, page 204
After 1949, the World Almanac discontinued providing their own estimations, instead, they only reported the numbers given by AJC. In 1950, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1948:
1950 AJC revision for 1948 : 11,373,000, page 473
So, let's brief this quickly. The last available pre-war number comes from 1938. In 1940, they somehow got a new estimation. In 1941, they use the 1938 number, not the 1940 number. In 1942, they got a new estimation, which was then used in both the 1943 and 1944 versions, until the war ended and they made a new estimation for 1945, which was then used for 1946, 1947 and 1948. In 1949, the Almanac made an estimation of their own, whereas the AJC decided to revise the 1947 number instead.
15,688,259 - 11,266,600 = 4,421,659
Hmm, 4,4 million missing Jews. No, that can't be right. We all knew 6 million died before the Nuremberg Trials began anyway. So what to do? Well, the AJC had a great idea! They revised the 1939 number by adding 1 million Jews.
895,029 to be precise. So:
4,421,659 + 895,029 = 5,316,688
Bingo. The official Holocaust story goes that somewhere from 5,4 to 6 million Jews died. The number was predetermined and the AJC played along. Somehow they knew, 10 years later in 1949, that the 1938 and 1939 numbers were wrong. No mention of their source, no mention of their methodology used. They just changed the number. Poof.
Historians will tell you the added one million Jews comes from the Wannsee Conference, where the Nazis counted 11,000,000 Jews in Europe, but it is known that this number was exaggerated by roughly two million, therefore their point is moot. The additional one million are imaginary Jews, added for the sole purpose of having more Jews killed on paper. This is one of the essential bits of the lie that six million Jews died, but as we can, it couldn't possibly be six million, but 4,4 million maximum.
Now, this doesn't mean 4,4 million Jews died, because they didn't, it's just that most Jews after the war spread all over the world, took gentile names and became crypto-Jews. What's more, the AJC stopped reporting the actual number of Jews for current years, instead, they reported for two years back. Starting with 1949 when they "revised" the 1947 number, then in 1950 when they "revised" the 1948 number. They just kept "revising" the number of Jews two years back, ignoring the actual numbers. I wonder why?
Here's something interesting:
The 1933 World Almanac lists 682,400,000 Christians. The 1949 World Almanac lists 592,406,542 Christians. That's 89,993,458 less.
The Handbook of Council of Churches in the USA from 1951 lists 15,300,000 Jews."
What happened to the missing 89million + Christians
Did they go to the same place as the missing 4 - 5.3million Jews.
Guess we'll never know the real truth.
Sadly a lot of people Died.
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https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322 (https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322)
Here are some of the arguments against the claim that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.
Common sense: if we had not all been hypnotised or intimidated into committing the logical fallacy of argument from authority. No proof has even been given that 6 million were murdered.
1:Butz’s argument: At the end of the war they were still there.
Douglas reed also mentions this in his book "Far and wide". The United Nations figure for Jewish world population given in 1947 was the same as that given by the League of Nations in 1938.So not that many Jews died in the war, not millions anyway.
2:Most people can’t understand that the media is not their friend, and has lied to them. They give an ostrich response and are neither intelligent enough nor brave enough to face the world without comforting fantasies. www.ussliberty.org : one of the most brazen examples of media cover-up. www.ukar.org : plenty of others.
"If some know-it-all tries to expose you, the others will not listen to him and will condemn him, because by exposing you he is proving them guilty of stupidity, and the crowd will not forgive this." From a text published in Tel Aviv in 1958.
The Media lied in WW1 and the British apologised afterwards.
3:People can’t understand how so many eyewitnesses can lie, they have seen the television programmes.
Well until 1960 the holocaust lobby said there were death camps all over Western Europe and there were plenty of witnesses to that, e.g. Dr blaha at Nuremberg. Then gas chambers were quietly dropped except at those camps where the commies could keep scrutiny out.
An Orwellian rewriting of History was effected and all our university Historians and Media swallowed it like the whores they are.
No evidence was given for this change, just one letter by martin brozstat in der zeit. A good article on this can be found at www.faem.com by Major Stano called "House of Orwell".
This is an argument I have found effective with some people if I can keep their attention on it. Too often people are intimidated by political correctness. Totem and taboo, these born slaves are genetically stuck down in Plato’s cave.
Another example of the brazen orwelling of history is the change of the plaque at Auschwitz. (See my leaflet for the before an after photos)
Jews complained about a holocaust in 1919! "Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." --The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919) The Talmud also has atrocity claims which demonstrate the Jewish mentality: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.
4:Basic laws of chemistry and physics preclude Holocaust from having happened. Leucter etc .No Cyanide traces in alleged gas chambers. The establishment in Germany recently conceded this point see www.fpp.co.uk
In a sane society people would not have to disprove what common sense should be enough to tell you. The biggest psychological barrier people have to cross is the realisation that their society really is that corrupt, not anything to do with the holocaust story itself, which is really far fetched.
6: Revisionists have been imprisoned .If the holocaust was true it would be possible to have an open debate as those with the truth have nothing to fear from debate.
The lack of debate is indicative of a religious dogma, liberalism becoming a religion because of the power of the media to control info.
I heard one guy one the BBC saying most people thought the Germans who were massacred "got what they deserved", this attitude is a result of holocaust propaganda.
Revisionists are often accused of being Nazis by people as a circular logic propaganda trick and to the extent that some propagandised members of the public just assume this as almost a reflex. But surely if the Holocaust happened then maybe today neo-nazis would ignore it or blame it on one person like the left blames all its sins on Stalin. Denial of facts is very much a characteristic of the atavistic enemies of western civilisation, like those who tell us that race doesn't exist etc. The media doesn't even have to deny allied war crimes; it just doesn't bother to mention them.
The media has started generating prop to cover this point. I saw a programme with Irish journalist Fergal Keane on how the Turks deny the Armenian Genocide, and the comparison has also been made in responses from academics to me.
The three mass murders Trotsky (Jewish: real name bronstein), Lenin (I have seen many accounts of his ancestry) and Kaganovich (Jewish) are rarely mentioned in the controlled media.
The Brits put up a statue to bomber Harris who burned plenty of civilians. You see the Germans deserved it.
The fact that the media in the west suppressed information about the Jewishness of communism in the USSR was actually a causal factor of WW2.The holocaust is the tip of the iceberg of suppressed xxth century history.
7:The state of Israel would not exist if the holocaust had happened. World Jewry would have been too weakened.
8:The falsification of documents by the allies. Most people haven’t examined Nuremberg proceedings.
It takes about 5 minutes of reading the Nuremberg documents to realise that the holocaust is a hoax www.cwporter.com
9:Use of torture by allies in ‘War crimes trials’, commented upon by Senator McCarthy. Witch trial methods same methods proving similar impossibilities.
10:British letters by British ministry of Information, statements by Sefton Delmer.
Anyone Reading these would understand the politics involved and why the hoax was necessary for the allies.
11:Falsification of Photos and their use in books and television programmes. For example Spielberg’s survivor programme used false photos exposed by Udo Walendy to prop up weak survivor testimony.www.ukar.org has good article on this.
12:Violation of Occam’s razor, again and again. See Jurgen Graf’s demolition of Hilberg’s book.
Absurd rationalisations needed, Germans supposed to speak in code, when allies spoke bluntly of mass murder of Germans.
13:Quoting a few of the eyewitnesses is a good persuader, and don’t let the audience rationalise the examples away, for example the witnesses Hilberg uses in his ‘definitive’ book.
Elie Wiesel (who was given Nobel Prize) supposedly in Auschwitz but he never saw as chambers. Muller and bucket of jumping human flesh, lengyal and human sausages. Friedman in Zundel trial and colour-coded smoke by country of origin. Wiesel's geysers of blood.
And so on.
14:Red cross report from 1948 spoke of 300,000 deaths in camps mainly of disease, so holocaust not possible. Vatican also did not support allied genocide claims. Butz’s elephant in my basement argument. " I do not see an elephant in my basement, an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement, therefore there is no elephant in my basement"
Circular logic prop is used to try to shore up this leak, for example the various books making out the pope was a bit of a nazi, websites on clerofascism etc. people are so browbeaten by the orthodox consensus coming from all media and public figures that you see an orwellian crimestop reflex and people don't even stop to think about the absurdity of the claims because all dissent is so totally suppressed. Even the Internet is getting increasingly censored as the Jews work away at destroying this last refuge of free thought.
You get an exponential run away effect of absurdity just like with a religion where no part of the myth can be open to question.
15: The dropping of early absurdities such as steam chambers and electrocution platforms. This is not History but propaganda.
Famous Pravda article on Auschwitz."Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" graves in the Eastern part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured; even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages. But even so one can see the traces of the murder of millions of people! From the stories of prisoners, liberated by the Red Army, it is not difficult to make out all that the Germans tried so carefully to conceal. This gigantic industrial plant of death was equipped with the last word in fascist technology and was furnished with all of the instruments of torture which the German monsters could devise."
16:Obvious Zionist need for the holocaust, though as most people are politically retarded this will go over their heads.
17:Need of entrenched oligarchies for the Hoax. False democracy possible, opposition is tabooed out of existence.
18:No budget, plan or order documentation for any genocide.
19:All the eyewitnesses who testify that there were no gas chambers or genocide are ignored or even imprisoned.
20: Much bigger crimes (and ones that actually occurred at that) are ignored, so there is something odd about the holocaust. The Holocaust lobby shot themselves in the foot, inadvertently damning themselves with overemphasis.
I remember as a child resenting that my history book called the killing of 6 million Jews ‘the most terrible crime in history’. Why would it be? Are Jewish lives worth more or something?
And if we are westerners why should we give a damn?
Are we too gentle to survive in a harsh world?
According to Dagobert Rune Hip Hip Hurray comes from a Roman toast celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.
Why 500 films about the holocaust and none (or none that I'm aware of) about the gulags?
Something is rotten in Denmark!
That the fantastical 6 million are treated as if they were 200 million should trigger some awareness on some level.
Very interesting - Plenty to take on board.
Thanks for posting.
Oh & ropo did you take note - no name calling or stupid comments.
Hmmm let's be ready for a tirade of abuse / name calling etc from
The highly eloquent ropo.
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And where is your proof that 6 million died (which is not even a big number to begin with compared with how many Europeans died)???
Ropo, you are in denial. Your world view is shattered when history as written by the victors are questioned. You are an individual that does not question anything. You except everything you are told. How did you become so gullible and naive? In your world there are no corrupt politicians (lol) even when it is clear just looking around you that there is corruption everywhere. In your world there are no conspiracies - humans simply do not conspire against other humans. Not sure how you can explain that though because then there would be no crime in the world if there were no conspiracies. There would be no wars.
Do you know the definition of a conspiracy? We already know by now you did not know the definition of diameter so I am just checking.
If anyone on Getbig is a moron / fool it is you, you dumb old fuck!
Why don't you answer that simple question? I know that you can flood this thread with nonsense and bullshit, but why I also know that you can't answer my questions? Because in the reality, you don't know fuck about the matter. You are just an imbecile whose knowledge is based on copying futile crap from the foil hat sites. What I am teaching here to you morons is the fact that it is ridiculously easy make the questions you cannot answer. Let me repeate:
1. If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war? Nazis used insane amount of resources to build these camps, but why?
2.how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for the nazis to do that? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"?
Are these questions too hard to answer? Of course they are, because there isn't anything what you could copy form the foil hat morons. You have to think with your so called "own brains" and that is too difficult for you.
By the holohoax theory, there isn't any prove that there were 6 million jews who got killed. So how this works in real life? You just point to the empty courtyard and tell everybody that there were 6 million jews just seconds ago, but they all disappeared? In fact there is tons of evidence about these jews, but you morons just refused to believe these facts. Holocaust is one of the most definitely proved happening in the human history and mostly because nazis themselves provide the most of the evidence. What exactly you have? You can't prove shit.
And what comes to Dorian, what make him some kind of author about the matter? Nothing. Instead of getting education, he spend his teenage in juvenile prison. Before his bodybuilding career, he was nothing, so did the bodybuilding make him an expert about holocaust? He is just another foil hat who talks futile crap without thinking at all.
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https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322 (https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322)
Here are some of the arguments against the claim that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.
Common sense: if we had not all been hypnotised or intimidated into committing the logical fallacy of argument from authority. No proof has even been given that 6 million were murdered.
1:Butz’s argument: At the end of the war they were still there.
Douglas reed also mentions this in his book "Far and wide". The United Nations figure for Jewish world population given in 1947 was the same as that given by the League of Nations in 1938.So not that many Jews died in the war, not millions anyway.
2:Most people can’t understand that the media is not their friend, and has lied to them. They give an ostrich response and are neither intelligent enough nor brave enough to face the world without comforting fantasies. www.ussliberty.org : one of the most brazen examples of media cover-up. www.ukar.org : plenty of others.
"If some know-it-all tries to expose you, the others will not listen to him and will condemn him, because by exposing you he is proving them guilty of stupidity, and the crowd will not forgive this." From a text published in Tel Aviv in 1958.
The Media lied in WW1 and the British apologised afterwards.
3:People can’t understand how so many eyewitnesses can lie, they have seen the television programmes.
Well until 1960 the holocaust lobby said there were death camps all over Western Europe and there were plenty of witnesses to that, e.g. Dr blaha at Nuremberg. Then gas chambers were quietly dropped except at those camps where the commies could keep scrutiny out.
An Orwellian rewriting of History was effected and all our university Historians and Media swallowed it like the whores they are.
No evidence was given for this change, just one letter by martin brozstat in der zeit. A good article on this can be found at www.faem.com by Major Stano called "House of Orwell".
This is an argument I have found effective with some people if I can keep their attention on it. Too often people are intimidated by political correctness. Totem and taboo, these born slaves are genetically stuck down in Plato’s cave.
Another example of the brazen orwelling of history is the change of the plaque at Auschwitz. (See my leaflet for the before an after photos)
Jews complained about a holocaust in 1919! "Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." --The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919) The Talmud also has atrocity claims which demonstrate the Jewish mentality: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.
4:Basic laws of chemistry and physics preclude Holocaust from having happened. Leucter etc .No Cyanide traces in alleged gas chambers. The establishment in Germany recently conceded this point see www.fpp.co.uk
In a sane society people would not have to disprove what common sense should be enough to tell you. The biggest psychological barrier people have to cross is the realisation that their society really is that corrupt, not anything to do with the holocaust story itself, which is really far fetched.
6: Revisionists have been imprisoned .If the holocaust was true it would be possible to have an open debate as those with the truth have nothing to fear from debate.
The lack of debate is indicative of a religious dogma, liberalism becoming a religion because of the power of the media to control info.
I heard one guy one the BBC saying most people thought the Germans who were massacred "got what they deserved", this attitude is a result of holocaust propaganda.
Revisionists are often accused of being Nazis by people as a circular logic propaganda trick and to the extent that some propagandised members of the public just assume this as almost a reflex. But surely if the Holocaust happened then maybe today neo-nazis would ignore it or blame it on one person like the left blames all its sins on Stalin. Denial of facts is very much a characteristic of the atavistic enemies of western civilisation, like those who tell us that race doesn't exist etc. The media doesn't even have to deny allied war crimes; it just doesn't bother to mention them.
The media has started generating prop to cover this point. I saw a programme with Irish journalist Fergal Keane on how the Turks deny the Armenian Genocide, and the comparison has also been made in responses from academics to me.
The three mass murders Trotsky (Jewish: real name bronstein), Lenin (I have seen many accounts of his ancestry) and Kaganovich (Jewish) are rarely mentioned in the controlled media.
The Brits put up a statue to bomber Harris who burned plenty of civilians. You see the Germans deserved it.
The fact that the media in the west suppressed information about the Jewishness of communism in the USSR was actually a causal factor of WW2.The holocaust is the tip of the iceberg of suppressed xxth century history.
7:The state of Israel would not exist if the holocaust had happened. World Jewry would have been too weakened.
8:The falsification of documents by the allies. Most people haven’t examined Nuremberg proceedings.
It takes about 5 minutes of reading the Nuremberg documents to realise that the holocaust is a hoax www.cwporter.com
9:Use of torture by allies in ‘War crimes trials’, commented upon by Senator McCarthy. Witch trial methods same methods proving similar impossibilities.
10:British letters by British ministry of Information, statements by Sefton Delmer.
Anyone Reading these would understand the politics involved and why the hoax was necessary for the allies.
11:Falsification of Photos and their use in books and television programmes. For example Spielberg’s survivor programme used false photos exposed by Udo Walendy to prop up weak survivor testimony.www.ukar.org has good article on this.
12:Violation of Occam’s razor, again and again. See Jurgen Graf’s demolition of Hilberg’s book.
Absurd rationalisations needed, Germans supposed to speak in code, when allies spoke bluntly of mass murder of Germans.
13:Quoting a few of the eyewitnesses is a good persuader, and don’t let the audience rationalise the examples away, for example the witnesses Hilberg uses in his ‘definitive’ book.
Elie Wiesel (who was given Nobel Prize) supposedly in Auschwitz but he never saw as chambers. Muller and bucket of jumping human flesh, lengyal and human sausages. Friedman in Zundel trial and colour-coded smoke by country of origin. Wiesel's geysers of blood.
And so on.
14:Red cross report from 1948 spoke of 300,000 deaths in camps mainly of disease, so holocaust not possible. Vatican also did not support allied genocide claims. Butz’s elephant in my basement argument. " I do not see an elephant in my basement, an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement, therefore there is no elephant in my basement"
Circular logic prop is used to try to shore up this leak, for example the various books making out the pope was a bit of a nazi, websites on clerofascism etc. people are so browbeaten by the orthodox consensus coming from all media and public figures that you see an orwellian crimestop reflex and people don't even stop to think about the absurdity of the claims because all dissent is so totally suppressed. Even the Internet is getting increasingly censored as the Jews work away at destroying this last refuge of free thought.
You get an exponential run away effect of absurdity just like with a religion where no part of the myth can be open to question.
15: The dropping of early absurdities such as steam chambers and electrocution platforms. This is not History but propaganda.
Famous Pravda article on Auschwitz."Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" graves in the Eastern part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured; even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages. But even so one can see the traces of the murder of millions of people! From the stories of prisoners, liberated by the Red Army, it is not difficult to make out all that the Germans tried so carefully to conceal. This gigantic industrial plant of death was equipped with the last word in fascist technology and was furnished with all of the instruments of torture which the German monsters could devise."
16:Obvious Zionist need for the holocaust, though as most people are politically retarded this will go over their heads.
17:Need of entrenched oligarchies for the Hoax. False democracy possible, opposition is tabooed out of existence.
18:No budget, plan or order documentation for any genocide.
19:All the eyewitnesses who testify that there were no gas chambers or genocide are ignored or even imprisoned.
20: Much bigger crimes (and ones that actually occurred at that) are ignored, so there is something odd about the holocaust. The Holocaust lobby shot themselves in the foot, inadvertently damning themselves with overemphasis.
I remember as a child resenting that my history book called the killing of 6 million Jews ‘the most terrible crime in history’. Why would it be? Are Jewish lives worth more or something?
And if we are westerners why should we give a damn?
Are we too gentle to survive in a harsh world?
According to Dagobert Rune Hip Hip Hurray comes from a Roman toast celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.
Why 500 films about the holocaust and none (or none that I'm aware of) about the gulags?
Something is rotten in Denmark!
That the fantastical 6 million are treated as if they were 200 million should trigger some awareness on some level.
"Its common sense" should never be used to try and prove your point in an argument.
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Wiesel
Apparently, in his book, Wiesel claims that when the Russian's were about to liberate the camp and the German's were fleeing, the German's offered him and his father the option to stay and wait for the Russians or go back with them towards Germany, and they chose to remain with the Germans.
This alone shows him to be a liar of mammoth proportions. Because no one in their right mind would have stayed with the people who were going to kill them in a DEATH CAMP.
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On a side note, I once talked to an old man in Italy who lived through World War II.
He said that when Allied planes were shot down, the Germans would immediately search for the pilots, because otherwise the civilians would kill them.
Also, allied fighter-planes would target civilians with machine fire, randomly strafing anyone done below.
Houses in civilian areas, were also strafed with machine gun fire.
Of course, they also deliberately bombed civilian areas.
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Interesting telling of WW 1 and 2 by a Jew.
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Here's a simple fact checking.
Starving was a daily basis torture in camp. I read books about goulag for example ppl got 300gr of bread e.d. A regular prisonnier weighed 100lbs. When russian and yankee arrived at concentration camp, german guard have already left for weeks. prisonnier in camp were already starved for month. At the end no food was supplied to the camp for weeks too because there was no food alvailable in Germany. In fact nobody got food in Europa. So cut the food to a 100lbs ppl and see what happen. So the picture showing moutain of skinny corps showed prisonnier camp died of starvation because there was no more administration in these camp. It was war, my ancestry got to eat motor engine oil soup, but they were not jew.
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Sir Dorian will always be a Knight of the highest degree to everyone in the bodybuilding-scene, so why bother about the Royals?
He is already more royal than them.
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Here's a simple fact checking.
Starving was a daily basis torture in camp. I read books about goulag for example ppl got 300gr of bread e.d. A regular prisonnier weighed 100lbs. When russian and yankee arrived at concentration camp, german guard have already left for weeks. prisonnier in camp were already starved for month. At the end no food was supplied to the camp for weeks too because there was no food alvailable in Germany. In fact nobody got food in Europa. So cut the food to a 100lbs ppl and see what happen. So the picture showing moutain of skinny corps showed prisonnier camp died of starvation because there was no more administration in these camp. It was war, my ancestry got to eat motor engine oil soup, but they were not jew.
Can't be bothered to find evidence right now, but it has been documented (see my earlier post from Israeli newspaper) that Jews ran Russian Gulag system. And it has also been documented that Germans gave Jews and other camp detainees MORE calories than Russians gave gulag prisoners.
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I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X
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I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X
Fuck off Dr Fudge. Truth hurts your brain, so you cry like a fagg0t. I bet the women in your family were fucking the NAZI soldiers when they occupied Fagland Netherlands.
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What happened to the missing 89million + Christians
Winston Churchill was the great villian of that era. He, and he alone caused all those deaths.
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I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X
The Dutch ... ::)
Just like the French & Italians
Soon rolled over on their backs for the Germans.. Ha
Now They Give it the large with their big mouth Talk.
Think about it - Dr Rollover.
;)
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The Dutch rolled over just like the Italians and French.
The French leaders invited the German's into France. French women loved those German studs. If Dr Dutch was a man in WWII he would have been sucking German cock, and he would have been hiding in the closet jerking off while NAZI's fucked his wife..
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Winston Churchill was the great villian of that era. He, and he alone caused all those deaths.
I'm sadly for me no historian
And likely there is much more to winston than I know
How did he become solely responsible for these 89million + Deaths.
6 million Jews died ( supposedly ) and we hear it everywhere & every day
89million Christians -- Nothing - Not a Thing. ??
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Hitler tried hard to avoid war with England, but Winston insisted on war.
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Why don't you answer that simple question? I know that you can flood this thread with nonsense and bullshit, but why I also know that you can't answer my questions? Because in the reality, you don't know fuck about the matter. You are just an imbecile whose knowledge is based on copying futile crap from the foil hat sites. What I am teaching here to you morons is the fact that it is ridiculously easy make the questions you cannot answer. Let me repeate:
1. If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war? Nazis used insane amount of resources to build these camps, but why?
All nations had camps. At the end of the war over 2 million German soldiers died in Russian prison camps. The existence of camps is not proof that 6 million jews died.
2.how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for the nazis to do that? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"?
Again, where is your proof that 6 million were on "vacation" in these camps?? Do you have a list of names that can be verified? Or are they fictional names? Anyone can come up with a list of 6 million names if given enough time. I don't buy it.
Are these questions too hard to answer? Of course they are, because there isn't anything what you could copy form the foil hat morons. You have to think with your so called "own brains" and that is too difficult for you.
Well, on the contrary, we are thinking with our own brains by questioning the official story being desperately repeated ad nausea. You on the other hand do not question this story. You are letting them think for you. It is too difficult for you to think outside the box.
By the holohoax theory, there isn't any prove that there were 6 million jews who got killed. So how this works in real life? You just point to the empty courtyard and tell everybody that there were 6 million jews just seconds ago, but they all disappeared? In fact there is tons of evidence about these jews, but you morons just refused to believe these facts. Holocaust is one of the most definitely proved happening in the human history and mostly because nazis themselves provide the most of the evidence. What exactly you have? You can't prove shit.
Again, you are assuming there were 6 million jews and basing your argument on that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question)
And what comes to Dorian, what make him some kind of author about the matter? Nothing. Instead of getting education, he spend his teenage in juvenile prison. Before his bodybuilding career, he was nothing, so did the bodybuilding make him an expert about holocaust? He is just another foil hat who talks futile crap without thinking at all.
Whatever. You default to foil hat when confronted with out of the box thinking. You're a very gullible person Ropo!
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Hitler tried hard to avoid war with England, but Winston insisted on war.
Because bankers bought out Churchill's debt. And funny how right after that he started his rhetoric against Germany.
Germany was setup at the Treaty of Versailles. They were financially destroyed and then the bankers offered Hitler as their solution.
The bankers financed both Hitler and Churchill. Divide and conquer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3231410/Winston-spendaholic-teetered-brink-bankruptcy-saved-secret-backhanders-new-book-Chuchill-s-finances-reveals-spent-40-000-year-casinos-54-000-booze.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3231410/Winston-spendaholic-teetered-brink-bankruptcy-saved-secret-backhanders-new-book-Chuchill-s-finances-reveals-spent-40-000-year-casinos-54-000-booze.html)
https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/how-winston-churchill-sold-out-britain-and-europe/ (https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/how-winston-churchill-sold-out-britain-and-europe/)
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I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X
That's quite hypocritical, you don't like an opinion, find it stupid or offensive so you want it banned...? This is called censorship.
I don't agree with them, but I'm not a child who gets so offended and wants to force everyone to shut up 'because I don't like to hear it'.
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That's quite hypocritical, you don't like an opinion, find it stupid or offensive so you want it banned...? This is called censorship.
I don't agree with them, but I'm not a child who gets so offended and wants to force everyone to shut up 'because I don't like to hear it'.
Be quiet...
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The Dutch rolled over just like the Italians and French.
The French leaders invited the German's into France. French women loved those German studs. If Dr Dutch was a man in WWII he would have been sucking German cock, and he would have been hiding in the closet jerking off while NAZI's fucked his wife..
Germans lost far many airplanes over Holland in may 40 than they thought they would. They wanted to capture the Dutch government and Royal Family but their paratroopers were blown to pieces...
They lost so much airplaines that many historian consider that one of the major reasons the Nazis didn't try to invade Britain.......not making this up, read your history books dude.. ::)
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Germans lost far many airplanes over Holland in may 40 than they thought they would. They wanted to capture the Dutch government and Royal Family but their paratroopers were blown to pieces...
They lost so much airplaines that many historian consider that one of the major reasons the Nazis didn't try to invade Britain.......not making this up, read your history books dude.. ::)
The Dutch ... ::)
Just like the French & Italians
Soon rolled over on their backs for the Germans.. Ha
Now They Give it the large with their big mouth Talk.
Think about it - Dr Rollover.
;)
No need to read history.
HTH.
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Germans lost far many airplanes over Holland in may 40 than they thought they would. They wanted to capture the Dutch government and Royal Family but their paratroopers were blown to pieces...
They lost so much airplaines that many historian consider that one of the major reasons the Nazis didn't try to invade Britain.......not making this up, read your history books dude.. ::)
HA HA you are a deliusional twat.
I have read my history. LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_Netherlands_during_World_War_II
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I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X
Well, no. We need some better foil hats, because these what we got are fucking boring. These fucking imbeciles are really just scared kids who live in the trailer parks with their parents, and internet is their only friend. They are cowards, plain and simple, and too fucking stupid to live in this world. For example, when I make some simple questions to these morons, I know that these cowards haven't gut's to answer them, because they would be forced to use their so called "brains" and that scares hell out of them. All what these bastards do is spread the word of the other morons and try pretend that crap is their own thoughts. Have these morons been able to prove any of their claims? Not even one, never. That is so pathetic, so fucking sad because it proves what kind of fucking morons these guys are. They are worthless pieces of shit, and that is all they are. And this is the ultimate truth about these guys. They are just pieces of shit, little kids who live their life by the internet one hand holding the mice and other holding their tiny little pecker. So when you put them in the right perspective, you don't need to hate them, just pity them because they have to manage their life with those rotten crap infested so called "brains".. ;D :o;D :o;D
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Well, no. We need some better foil hats, because these what we got are fucking boring. These fucking imbeciles are really just scared kids who live in the trailer parks with their parents, and internet is their only friend. They are cowards, plain and simple, and too fucking stupid to live in this world. For example, when I make some simple questions to these morons, I know that these cowards haven't gut's to answer them, because they would be forced to use their so called "brains" and that scares hell out of them. All what these bastards do is spread the word of the other morons and try pretend that crap is their own thoughts. Have these morons been able to prove any of their claims? Not even one, never. That is so pathetic, so fucking sad because it proves what kind of fucking morons these guys are. They are worthless pieces of shit, and that is all they are. And this is the ultimate truth about these guys. They are just pieces of shit, little kids who live their life by the internet one hand holding the mice and other holding their tiny little pecker. So when you put them in the right perspective, you don't need to hate them, just pity them because they have to manage their life with those rotten crap infested so called "brains".. ;D :o;D :o;D
For those who don't have the patience to read your walls of drivel, let me offer some quick cliff notes...
(http://previews.123rf.com/images/csakisti/csakisti0903/csakisti090300043/4559391-sharpei-perro-haciendo-sus-abluciones-en-el-parque-Foto-de-archivo.jpg)
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Germans lost far many airplanes over Holland in may 40 than they thought they would. They wanted to capture the Dutch government and Royal Family but their paratroopers were blown to pieces...
They lost so much airplaines that many historian consider that one of the major reasons the Nazis didn't try to invade Britain.......not making this up, read your history books dude.. ::)
55 000 Dutchmen volunteered and fought for the Waffen-SS.
Considering the Waffen-SS had a strength of 500 000, over 10% were Dutch.
Also, 60% of the Waffen-SS were non-German.
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read your history books dude.. ::)
HA HA you are a deliusional twat.
I have read my history. LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_Netherlands_during_World_War_II
55 000 Dutchmen volunteered and fought for the Waffen-SS.
Considering the Waffen-SS had a strength of 500 000, over 10% were Dutch.
Guess Dr Dutch didn't (in spite of his own advice) read his history books :P
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The Dutch ... ::)
Just like the French & Italians
Soon rolled over on their backs for the Germans.. Ha
Now They Give it the large with their big mouth Talk.
Think about it - Dr Rollover.
;)
No need to read history.
HTH.
This was about may 1940 asswhipe....and Team Trump is gonna lose the election historically.... 8)
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This was about may 1940 asswhipe....and Team Trump is gonna lose the election historically.... 8)
This is about the War.
The War you lot Rolled over.
You & your Dutch Spineless Bastards
Rolled Over Soon Enough For Your German Masters
And How Many Joined The SS....??
You Bunch of Cowards --
And Now You Want To Call People Names.
The Dutch Were A Joke & Your Still A Joke.
Facts Speak For Themselves -
Get Permission From Your German Masters Before You
Talk to People Who Saved Your Arses.
Dr Rollover..Ha.
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Fk yeah what a clown.
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All nations had camps. At the end of the war over 2 million German soldiers died in Russian prison camps. The existence of camps is not proof that 6 million jews died.
Are you really that stupid? Yes, after the war all nations, including USA have camps, but why nazis build them in every country they occupied, and fill them not with the pow's, but civilian jews? There is kilometres of documents written by nazis about this, tons of photos and films, because they want to document their heroism. There is weekly TV documents which tells about these things, but while you are watching just cartoons, you never see them. Truth: Between 1933 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its allies established more than 40,000 camps and other incarceration sites. The perpetrators used these sites for a range of purposes, including forced labor, detention of people thought to be enemies of the state, and mass murder. The total number of sites is based upon ongoing research in the perpetrators' own records.
Again, where is your proof that 6 million were on "vacation" in these camps?? Do you have a list of names that can be verified? Or are they fictional names? Anyone can come up with a list of 6 million names if given enough time. I don't buy it.
Where is your proof there wasn't? You see, that is the real problem, because the existence of these ~6 million has been proved over and over again. Believe or not, there is tons of history books, they even teach this in schools everywhere around the world, and you fucking imbeciles think that it is enough for you to just say it isn't true? You say it never happen, and everything in the history of the WW2 will vanish? Fuck you, it is your kind of fucking imbeciles who should present the evidence which proves that holocaust didn't happen. Your problem is that you can't, because you don't have even a single evidence to prove your claims. For example: Why all the nazis who testified and documented their own war crimes would lie? They were fucking proud what they did, they were the master race, who wrote their own history, so how all that is bunch of lies? For example: There is tons of records about the trains which transfer jews in the camps. There is hundreds of thousands eye witnesses, there is even the timetables of the trains because there were also lot of other railroad traffic at the time, so it is ridiculously clear that jews were in those camps.
Well, on the contrary, we are thinking with our own brains by questioning the official story being desperately repeated ad nausea. You on the other hand do not question this story. You are letting them think for you. It is too difficult for you to think outside the box.
Parrot like repeating words and sentences which you have found from the foil hat sites isn't thinking. It is just crap. Instead of that, why don't you explain why nazis documented their own war crimes in the archives, films and photos? Allies confiscated literally millions of documents from gestapo, from camps central command etc. all made by nazis themselves. You don't have imagine anything, just read what nazis have wrote. Most of the evidence against the nazis they provide themselves.
Again, you are assuming there were 6 million jews and basing your argument on that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question)
Whatever. You default to foil hat when confronted with out of the box thinking. You're a very gullible person Ropo!
And you are assuming that if you are in denial about this part of history, it some how change to fairytale. As always, you manage write lot of crap which doesn't include anything which would prove your claims, and I know why: you don't have any evidence to use. Just claims, words you repeat like a mindless parrot. Think about this: Would it be nice if you would be able to prove your words every now and then? Only reason why this debate continue all around the internet is the fact, that you guys don't have even a single evidence to prove your words. How would you feel if you could prove even one word of that pile of crap? You never see that day ;D
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For those who don't have the patience to read your walls of drivel, let me offer some quick cliff notes...
(http://previews.123rf.com/images/csakisti/csakisti0903/csakisti090300043/4559391-sharpei-perro-haciendo-sus-abluciones-en-el-parque-Foto-de-archivo.jpg)
Let me guess: There is your mother giving birth to little musselman-2013? How cute, you have been worthless piece of shit all your life.. ;D
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Ropo - Serious Questions.??
My knowledge on history & war is lacking.
You are saying you know the history.
Is it true 89million + plus Christians also disappeared / died ?
If so why is there no daily mention of this.
From what little reading / learning I have done on the subject
Is it also true that some or 1 of the concentration camps has continually
Had to revise the Number of Deaths / Murders downwards from
Approximately 1.5 million down to a few hundred thousand ( that is still a lot )
Looking for sensible replies
Thanks.
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Why would he even discuss being knighted, not like he'd ever be on the radar for it
because he's the First ever Britt to have won 6 Mr Olympia titles which is an Epic and difficult achievement and the queen ought to know that.... :)
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Ropo - Serious Questions.??
My knowledge on history & war is lacking.
You are saying you know the history.
Is it true 89million + plus Christians also disappeared / died ?
If so why is there no daily mention of this.
From what little reading / learning I have done on the subject
Is it also true that some or 1 of the concentration camps has continually
Had to revise the Number of Deaths / Murders downwards from
Approximately 1.5 million down to a few hundred thousand ( that is still a lot )
Looking for sensible replies
Thanks.
Serious answer: It doesn't matter which side you are, you should believe only things which are proved. It is simple as that. What is the truth? It is something which has been proved to be a fact by the evidence. Foil hats has serious and chronic lack of evidence, so their claims are just unproved crap, until they present some evidence. Sensible enough?
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Serious answer: It doesn't matter which side you are, you should believe only things which are proved. It is simple as that. What is the truth? It is something which has been proved to be a fact by the evidence. Foil hats has serious and chronic lack of evidence, so their claims are just unproved crap, until they present some evidence. Sensible enough?
What you state about the facts is clear enough & is the only way - but
Sadly we do know that sometimes the supposed 'said facts' are not true & 'the evidence' twisted to fit.
Note - I did say sometimes -
it is good to have an open mind & question things.
You didn't answer my other questions - is that because you do not know the answers.
Thanks.
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What you state about the facts is clear enough & is the only way - but
Sadly we do know that sometimes the supposed 'said facts' are not true & 'the evidence' twisted to fit.
Note - I did say sometimes -
it is good to have an open mind & question things.
You didn't answer my other questions - is that because you do not know the answers.
Thanks.
I didn't answer because your question was stupid. Yes, lot of people has die in war, millions of them. No one even knows the true numbers, all the figures are estimated, because hundred of thousands has disappeared in bombings. For example, they are still counting missing jews from the nazi documents. I don't say I know history, but I know bullshit when I see it, and that's all what foil hat morons have ;D
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I didn't answer because your question was stupid. Yes, lot of people has die in war, millions of them. No one even knows the true numbers, all the figures are estimated, because hundred of thousands has disappeared in bombings. For example, they are still counting missing jews from the nazi documents. I don't say I know history, but I know bullshit when I see it, and that's all what foil hat morons have ;D
Why are you such an angry person - do you think your abusive language is clever or Threating.??
You didn't answer because you can't / don't know.
Yet you know 6million plus Jews died.. For fact.
Yet No nothing about 89million Christians
Or the concentration camps that have & are downgrading the numbers of deaths.
It appears you are a 'Foil Hat Moron' just as much as those you accuse.
I try & have a reasonable & sensible conversation & get your rehtoric & abuse back.
Take your anger & abuse elsewhere or shove it up your arse.
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Why are you such an angry person - do you think your abusive language is clever or Threating.??
You didn't answer because you can't / don't know.
Yet you know 6million plus Jews died.. For fact.
Yet No nothing about 89million Christians
Or the concentration camps that have & are downgrading the numbers of deaths.
It appears you are a 'Foil Hat Moron' just as much as those you accuse.
I try & have a reasonable & sensible conversation & get your rehtoric & abuse back.
Take your anger & abuse elsewhere or shove it up your arse.
Well, first it would be nice to know what you are talking about by some kind of reference or link for the source. Let turn this another away around, and I ask you what do you think about those 1.8 millions who died? Why don't you answer? How about this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties) Well, who cares about facts. After reading this thread again, I found that cra...information regarding your question. It is a copy from the nazi website, years old and still plain crap. Let see..
1. Is the world almanac the absolute truth on this planet? No, it is a piece of shit with lot's of estimates in it. It isn't a word of god, it is a handbook which get it figures god know's where.
2. Are those figures right? Well, if you copy the third paragraph from the preface of the world almanac 1942, I believe that you have those books or at least you have an access to them. If you haven't how you can be sure that those figures are straight from the books?
3. Who exactly was counting population of each country during the war, years before first computers and www. Who send the information from the germany to USA and how accurate it would be, while those countries were in war?
4. Who was the editor of the World Almanac, did he have nazi sympathies? Not even one word about the guy in the internet, while he is the author of these books you read like a bible? What is the truth of these books? They were like Readers Digest, not more than that. Reference books of futile information, not source of absolute truth. They were full of estimations and figures which were based on purely on imagination, because there wasn't means of information for exact figures at the time.
For example, copy of the answer to the question:
How come the 1949 World Almanac didn't know 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the Holocaust?
"The problem has nothing whatever to do with rates of population increase or anything like that. It has to do with how frequently the World Almanac's sources had access to fresh estimates of religious populations.
Whoever first started propagating World Almanac figures neglected to mention that all figures before
1949 were from 1938 estimates. Since the year of estimate is given at the top of the chart it is difficult to believe that the originator did not intentionally mean to decieve by negelecting this key piece of information.
I have posted the following correction several times:
The University of Alberta library has the World Almanac issues for the pertinent period for 1941, 1944, 1947, 1948, and 1949. The figures listed for total world Jewish population are as follows:
1941 15,748,091
1944 15,192,089
1947 15,688,259
1948 15,688,259
1949 11,266,600
Now you may be wondering what happened to all those Jews in 1948-49. No fresh estimates were made between 1938 and 1947. The figures listed for 1941, 1947, and 1948 are identified as estimates made in 1938. The source for the estimate for 1944 is not given, and the numbers are listed differently than in other years. In 1944, the numbers are given as a part of a list of various world religions rather than standing on their own with a country-by-country breakdown as in the other years.
Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac.
The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491.
In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference.
Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates.
The World Almanac estimates figured prominently in another instance of the Gambit when the New York Times published inflated estimates of the post-war Jewish population in 1948, and early deniers used the story to dismiss claims of 6 million Jewish deaths."
Who were those early deniers? They were muslims, not the nazis. Most of the holocaust hoax- propaganda is based on these old ridiculous lies made by muslims, who didn't want Israel to be their neighbour.
And there is still those questions waiting for answers, as you know. Why it is so difficult to answer them? As I said, you would have to use your own brains because there isn't ready-made answers to be copied. How sad is that? Anyone with some kind of brains would be able to answer those simple questions, but you guys cannot do that? That tells everything you need to know about foil hat morons ;D
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And there is still those questions waiting for answers, as you know. Why it is so difficult to answer them? As I said, you would have to use your own brains because there isn't ready-made answers to be copied. How sad is that? Anyone with some kind of brains would be able to answer those simple questions, but you guys cannot do that? That tells everything you need to know about foil hat morons ;D
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I asked you a question that was raised in this thread -- I clearly stated i am no historian & was seeking to gain Knowledge / answer from you.
If you are unable ( which clearly you are ) to answer that question Just say I Dont Know The Answer -
Not To Difficult is it.
6 million missing jews 89 million missing christians (Not sure what the 1.8 million you quoted is reference to)
Any way Neither You or i can state categorically how many lives were lost.
Enough with the foil hat none sense.
its like the Pot (you) calling the Kettle ( them ) black.
People do use their brains & as its so difficult to get concrete facts - They come up with different numbers & answers.
There is the problem.
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[quote author=Ropo
And there is still those questions waiting for answers, as you know. Why it is so difficult to answer them? As I said, you would have to use your own brains because there isn't ready-made answers to be copied. How sad is that? Anyone with some kind of brains would be able to answer those simple questions, but you guys cannot do that? That tells everything you need to know about foil hat morons ;D
I asked you a question that was raised in this thread -- I clearly stated i am no historian & was seeking to gain Knowledge / answer from you.
If you are unable ( which clearly you are ) to answer that question Just say I Dont Know The Answer -
Not To Difficult is it.
6 million missing jews 89 million missing christians (Not sure what the 1.8 million you quoted is reference to)
Any way Neither You or i can state categorically how many lives were lost.
Enough with the foil hat none sense.
its like the Pot (you) calling the Kettle ( them ) black.
People do use their brains & as its so difficult to get concrete facts - They come up with different numbers & answers.
There is the problem.
No, problem is foil hat morons who don't be intelligence enough to ask for the evidence for their own claims. You see, holocaust is one of the most perfectly proved fact in the history of the mankind, and that remain to be a fact no matter do you believe it or not. I explained to you why source criticism would be good thing to learn no matter which side you are, and pointed out that your figures are based wartime estimates, not real figures. I present to you the wikipedia page which has real figures about the deaths at the WW2 which are based on real world facts instead of guessing, so what more do you need? That 89 million is plain old bullshit and this is common knowledge for everyone who have some kind of brains and education. In real life you can't pick any fucking number and claim it to be a absolute truth, and there is no evidence what so ever that figures in those almanacs are correct. Instead of that, the editor of the books clearly inform that used figures are estimates, so what it will take to make you understand that foil hats are lying to you? There is no such thing, because foil hats has no ability to change their point of view. Their blind faith prevents any learning what so ever, so they remain to be the morons ;D
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No, problem is foil hat morons who don't be intelligence enough to ask for the evidence for their own claims. You see, holocaust is one of the most perfectly proved fact in the history of the mankind, and that remain to be a fact no matter do you believe it or not. I explained to you why source criticism would be good thing to learn no matter which side you are, and pointed out that your figures are based wartime estimates, not real figures. I present to you the wikipedia page which has real figures about the deaths at the WW2 which are based on real world facts instead of guessing, so what more do you need? That 89 million is plain old bullshit and this is common knowledge for everyone who have some kind of brains and education. In real life you can't pick any fucking number and claim it to be a absolute truth, and there is no evidence what so ever that figures in those almanacs are correct. Instead of that, the editor of the books clearly inform that used figures are estimates, so what it will take to make you understand that foil hats are lying to you? There is no such thing, because foil hats has no ability to change their point of view. Their blind faith prevents any learning what so ever, so they remain to be the morons ;D
I am not going to write a long winded reply.
i was sent this link to post up --
is this also a load of bunk.??
Even Just the first 3 minutes are interesting.
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I am not going to write a long winded reply.
i was sent this link to post up --
is this also a load of bunk.??
Even Just the first 3 minutes are interesting.
Have you ever wondered why every foil hat video has text AND some pathetic moron who narrate it out loud? That is elementary way to make you adopt the opinion what they are presenting, because while you tiny little brains try to read and listen at the same time, they cannot think at all. That comes straight from the WW2 and russian propaganda films, it is like oldest trick in the book. Video may be interesting, but if it doesn't present any evidence at all, just ridiculous claims, it has no value what so ever.
What you have to understand is the fact, that all the claims of the holocaust revisionists are complete bullshit, and they can't prove any of them by real life evidence. Do you understand? They can't prove shit, not even one word of their lies.
Let me explain this once again: IF YOU CANT PROVE IT, IT ISN'T TRUE. If that is too difficult to you to understand, ask your mum what it means. The moronic part of the matter is the fact that there is plenty of people like you who believe any fucking bullshit without any hesitation and without asking if is there any evidence to prove what happen. What do you think it means to your quality of life at the long run? You are and remain to be an idiot, you end up in some shitty job because everything is planned by jewish mafia, and they are blocking your way to success. You live in the world of bullshit and keep yourself down by your blind faith and negativeness, because you can't learn anything. At the end, when you finally realize what a moron you have been, you probably slit your wrists, because that is the most common way to foil hats to leave this world. They live a short pathetic life in the pool of lies and crap, and end up killing themselves because world is too scary place for them ;D
So what next? How about the list of arguments I have seen in this situation? Here we go:
- evidence doesn't mean shit
- who cares the fucking evidence
- fuck you and your fucking evidence
- go fuck your mum with your piece of shit evidence
...etc. When it is time to present the evidence, the name calling and crap throwing starts immediately. This little dilemma is part of the every fucking conspiracy theory, but do you know why? Why they are nothing more than theories? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. If there would be any evidence, it would be a fact instead of theory. Easiest and fastest way to end conversations about the conspiracy theories would be presenting the evidence to prove claims in the theory, but this isn't even an option, you never see it happen. Why? Because all they have is lies. It is simple as that, so why don't you ask from your self what kind of people believe unproved crap? Is it a sign of moronic stupidity, or intelligence?
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Have you ever wondered why every foil hat video has text AND some pathetic moron who narrate it out loud? That is elementary way to make you adopt the opinion what they are presenting, because while you tiny little brains try to read and listen at the same time, they cannot think at all. That comes straight from the WW2 and russian propaganda films, it is like oldest trick in the book. Video may be interesting, but if it doesn't present any evidence at all, just ridiculous claims, it has no value what so ever.
What you have to understand is the fact, that all the claims of the holocaust revisionists are complete bullshit, and they can't prove any of them by real life evidence. Do you understand? They can't prove shit, not even one word of their lies.
Let me explain this once again: IF YOU CANT PROVE IT, IT ISN'T TRUE. If that is too difficult to you to understand, ask your mum what it means. The moronic part of the matter is the fact that there is plenty of people like you who believe any fucking bullshit without any hesitation and without asking if is there any evidence to prove what happen. What do you think it means to your quality of life at the long run? You are and remain to be an idiot, you end up in some shitty job because everything is planned by jewish mafia, and they are blocking your way to success. You live in the world of bullshit and keep yourself down by your blind faith and negativeness, because you can't learn anything. At the end, when you finally realize what a moron you have been, you probably slit your wrists, because that is the most common way to foil hats to leave this world. They live a short pathetic life in the pool of lies and crap, and end up killing themselves because world is too scary place for them ;D
So what next? How about the list of arguments I have seen in this situation? Here we go:
- evidence doesn't mean shit
- who cares the fucking evidence
- fuck you and your fucking evidence
- go fuck your mum with your piece of shit evidence
...etc. When it is time to present the evidence, the name calling and crap throwing starts immediately. This little dilemma is part of the every fucking conspiracy theory, but do you know why? Why they are nothing more than theories? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. If there would be any evidence, it would be a fact instead of theory. Easiest and fastest way to end conversations about the conspiracy theories would be presenting the evidence to prove claims in the theory, but this isn't even an option, you never see it happen. Why? Because all they have is lies. It is simple as that, so why don't you ask from your self what kind of people believe unproved crap? Is it a sign of moronic stupidity, or intelligence?
That's actually an incorrect statement, I went out with the dog last week and walked over the fields and didn't see anyone, I cant prove I went because I have no witnesses apart from me and the dog, and hes not telling.
Its still true I went though...
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RopoPopo, you're a moron yourself.
This is why the tin foilers and yourself are such a "perfect aggravation" team. It's like Republicunts and Demosluts.
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Have you ever wondered why every foil hat video has text AND some pathetic moron who narrate it out loud? That is elementary way to make you adopt the opinion what they are presenting, because while you tiny little brains try to read and listen at the same time, they cannot think at all. That comes straight from the WW2 and russian propaganda films, it is like oldest trick in the book. Video may be interesting, but if it doesn't present any evidence at all, just ridiculous claims, it has no value what so ever.
What you have to understand is the fact, that all the claims of the holocaust revisionists are complete bullshit, and they can't prove any of them by real life evidence. Do you understand? They can't prove shit, not even one word of their lies.
Let me explain this once again: IF YOU CANT PROVE IT, IT ISN'T TRUE. If that is too difficult to you to understand, ask your mum what it means. The moronic part of the matter is the fact that there is plenty of people like you who believe any fucking bullshit without any hesitation and without asking if is there any evidence to prove what happen. What do you think it means to your quality of life at the long run? You are and remain to be an idiot, you end up in some shitty job because everything is planned by jewish mafia, and they are blocking your way to success. You live in the world of bullshit and keep yourself down by your blind faith and negativeness, because you can't learn anything. At the end, when you finally realize what a moron you have been, you probably slit your wrists, because that is the most common way to foil hats to leave this world. They live a short pathetic life in the pool of lies and crap, and end up killing themselves because world is too scary place for them ;D
So what next? How about the list of arguments I have seen in this situation? Here we go:
- evidence doesn't mean shit
- who cares the fucking evidence
- fuck you and your fucking evidence
- go fuck your mum with your piece of shit evidence
...etc. When it is time to present the evidence, the name calling and crap throwing starts immediately. This little dilemma is part of the every fucking conspiracy theory, but do you know why? Why they are nothing more than theories? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. If there would be any evidence, it would be a fact instead of theory. Easiest and fastest way to end conversations about the conspiracy theories would be presenting the evidence to prove claims in the theory, but this isn't even an option, you never see it happen. Why? Because all they have is lies. It is simple as that, so why don't you ask from your self what kind of people believe unproved crap? Is it a sign of moronic stupidity, or intelligence?
You clearly are a very frustrated angry man - all that pent up frustration & anger seething out of you
at every opportunity - its not doing Your health any good.
You need to take some of you own advice & listen & learn from others.
You truly believe it is only you who knows & are right all the time.. ::)
Tin foil hat wearers are some times right.
Recently in England there has been a huge victory for truth about the deaths of 96 football supporters
after 37yrs the truth has come out and the Lies & cover ups by police & government exposed
all those poor families were vilified by many people the police & press for many years -
they did not stop seeking the truth & justice In the face of much adversity & Ignorant Foul mouthed idiots similar to you.
You are so quick to label others - (ha) - it is you who are the fool with your constant name calling & rhetoric& ignorance.
The only moronic stupidity is from you. Start improving yourself -1st step learn to keep a civil tongue.
Good day to you.
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That's actually an incorrect statement, I went out with the dog last week and walked over the fields and didn't see anyone, I cant prove I went because I have no witnesses apart from me and the dog, and hes not telling.
Its still true I went though...
Well, there is footprints, dog shit, dna because you were wanking while dog was shitting, and all sort of evidence you don't realize you have left behind. That's why they can convict criminals, who are dumb like you and leave tons of evidence behind not knowing.
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RopoPopo, you're a moron yourself.
This is why the tin foilers and yourself are such a "perfect aggravation" team. It's like Republicunts and Demosluts.
Well, can you define how much easier it is to call me a moron than show me some evidence to prove those foil hat claims? It is a quite a lot easier, it has to be because not even one foil hat on this planet has been able to show any evidence. Dear child, you can call me anything you like but only thing what you can prove by that is your own stupidity. To prove my stupidity you should show some evidence which prove I am wrong, and that you simply can't do ;D
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You clearly are a very frustrated angry man - all that pent up frustration & anger seething out of you
at every opportunity - its not doing Your health any good.
You need to take some of you own advice & listen & learn from others.
You truly believe it is only you who knows & are right all the time.. ::)
Tin foil hat wearers are some times right.
Recently in England there has been a huge victory for truth about the deaths of 96 football supporters
after 37yrs the truth has come out and the Lies & cover ups by police & government exposed
all those poor families were vilified by many people the police & press for many years -
they did not stop seeking the truth & justice In the face of much adversity & Ignorant Foul mouthed idiots similar to you.
You are so quick to label others - (ha) - it is you who are the fool with your constant name calling & rhetoric& ignorance.
The only moronic stupidity is from you. Start improving yourself -1st step learn to keep a civil tongue.
Good day to you.
I am asking for evidence to prove the claims which you support and spread, and you talk about me? I am not interesting at all, an old fart who doesn't believe lies like you do, so you have to do that because there isn't nothing else you can do. Just change the subject and hope that no one realize why you do so. And what was the conspiracy in the Hillsborough disaster? It was obvious from the beginning that things which polices did were main reason for the accident, so if this has confirmed by the court, how it is a huge victory for anybody? Prove there were lies and cover ups anywhere than in the lies of the foil hat morons? It was on news also in Finland and if our news told to us that it was mistake of the police forces, why don't you know it? Because you are following a wrong media and know only what those foil hat morons tell you to know.. and how sad is that? What do you think, monkey boy? ;D
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I am asking for evidence to prove the claims which you support and spread, and you talk about me? I am not interesting at all, an old fart who doesn't believe lies like you do, so you have to do that because there isn't nothing else you can do. Just change the subject and hope that no one realize why you do so. And what was the conspiracy in the Hillsborough disaster? It was obvious from the beginning that things which polices did were main reason for the accident, so if this has confirmed by the court, how it is a huge victory for anybody? Prove there were lies and cover ups anywhere than in the lies of the foil hat morons? It was on news also in Finland and if our news told to us that it was mistake of the police forces, why don't you know it? Because you are following a wrong media and know only what those foil hat morons tell you to know.. and how sad is that? What do you think, monkey boy? ;D
This My last response to you :
1, Go educate yourself - Take some of your own advice
2, Open your Mind - Be questioning
3, You are Finnish - Ha, That explains plenty another Pussified Scandinavian
4, I am Correct In Saying Finland allied it's Self With Germany in WW2
5, Yet Another Country The Uk / USA saved
6, Learn to Keep a Civil Tongue
7, Your Foul Language / Name / Calling Expose you as a No Nothing Pussy Trying to
Be Intimidating & Tough ::)
8, You are Ropo an Expert in your own Tiny Little Mind - Good For You - Enjoy
9, The Rest Of Us Can Laugh At You
10, The Village Needs Its Idiot Back --- Please Return.
Good Day To You.
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Well, can you define how much easier it is to call me a moron than show me some evidence to prove those foil hat claims? It is a quite a lot easier, it has to be because not even one foil hat on this planet has been able to show any evidence. Dear child, you can call me anything you like but only thing what you can prove by that is your own stupidity. To prove my stupidity you should show some evidence which prove I am wrong, and that you simply can't do ;D
The issue is no that the "truther-scene" is rife with morons(which it is) but that things which have been established as unshakable truths are now open for discussion. Where the established media and co. scream bloody murder the finger and eye should go and re-examine the pre-cooked information.
This can be of course abused but it is a great opportunity to remedy some of the lies that have been spread.
You're just using the morons for your own power trip thus you're lower than them given they're dumber than you and can't easily think for thems-elves.
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This My last response to you :
1, Go educate yourself - Take some of your own advice
2, Open your Mind - Be questioning
3, You are Finnish - Ha, That explains plenty another Pussified Scandinavian
4, I am Correct In Saying Finland allied it's Self With Germany in WW2
5, Yet Another Country The Uk / USA saved
6, Learn to Keep a Civil Tongue
7, Your Foul Language / Name / Calling Expose you as a No Nothing Pussy Trying to
Be Intimidating & Tough ::)
8, You are Ropo an Expert in your own Tiny Little Mind - Good For You - Enjoy
9, The Rest Of Us Can Laugh At You
10, The Village Needs Its Idiot Back --- Please Return.
Good Day To You.
Just like always, when you guys reach the point where would be time to prove your words, you start to to throw crap at me because you know you can't prove shit. Have you any idea how obvious that is? You just proved the fact that you aren't able to prove any part of the theory you blindly believe, and I should open my mind? How about you, you foil hat bigot? Why don't you open your mind with the shotgun? ;D
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The issue is no that the "truther-scene" is rife with morons(which it is) but that things which have been established as unshakable truths are now open for discussion. Where the established media and co. scream bloody murder the finger and eye should go and re-examine the pre-cooked information.
This can be of course abused but it is a great opportunity to remedy some of the lies that have been spread.
You're just using the morons for your own power trip thus you're lower than them given they're dumber than you and can't easily think for thems-elves.
Issue is that believing any of the foil hat crap proves that person has extremely low IQ, because first thing with anybody who have a working brains is asking "where is the evidence". Like I have repeat time after time, it make no difference which side you are, you should believe only what has been proved. Foil hats never ask that, what ever idiots of the internet would tell them, they just take their word for it. In any case that is utterly stupid thing to do, and that make them morons.
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Issue is that believing any of the foil hat crap proves that person has extremely low IQ, because first thing with anybody who have a working brains is asking "where is the evidence". Like I have repeat time after time, it make no difference which side you are, you should believe only what has been proved. Foil hats never ask that, what ever idiots of the internet would tell them, they just take their word for it. In any case that is utterly stupid thing to do, and that make them morons.
Stop pretending to be intelligent.
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Just like always, when you guys reach the point where would be time to prove your words, you start to to throw crap at me because you know you can't prove shit. Have you any idea how obvious that is? You just proved the fact that you aren't able to prove any part of the theory you blindly believe, and I should open my mind? How about you, you foil hat bigot? Why don't you open your mind with the shotgun? ;D
This My last response to you :
1, Go educate yourself - Take some of your own advice
2, Open your Mind - Be questioning
3, You are Finnish - Ha, That explains plenty another Pussified Scandinavian
4, I am Correct In Saying Finland allied it's Self With Germany in WW2
5, Yet Another Country The Uk / USA saved
6, Learn to Keep a Civil Tongue
7, Your Foul Language / Name / Calling Expose you as a No Nothing Pussy Trying to
Be Intimidating & Tough Roll Eyes
8, You are Ropo an Expert in your own Tiny Little Mind - Good For You - Enjoy
9, The Rest Of Us Can Laugh At You
10, The Village Needs Its Idiot Back --- Please Return.
Good Day To You.
Ha ha -- Throw crap at You --ha ha
You do a very good job of doing that to yourself.
You are the one who always starts off deeming & calling people names
only You cant handle it / dont like when it is returned to you.
You Finnish Pussy -- Fucking shame we bothered saving your lots skins
fuck off Back to Germany You Nazi lover.
You really are a complete and utter waste of time & space.
Get back to your Village --- Idiot.
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haha Ropo is a Scandinavian CUCK
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haha Ropo is a Scandinavian CUCK
Just like always, when you guys reach the point where would be time to prove your words, you start to to throw crap at me because you know you can't prove shit. Have you any idea how obvious that is? You just proved the fact that you aren't able to prove any part of the theory you blindly believe, and I should open my mind? How about you, you foil hat bigot? Why don't you open your mind with the shotgun? ;D
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Just like always, when you guys reach the point where would be time to prove your words, you start to to throw crap at me because you know you can't prove shit. Have you any idea how obvious that is? You just proved the fact that you aren't able to prove any part of the theory you blindly believe, and I should open my mind? How about you, you foil hat bigot? Why don't you open your mind with the shotgun? ;D
No dummy, you got it wrong YET AGAIN.
WE show you facts AND we pick on you ;D
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Stop pretending to be intelligent.
Suffocating irony.
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Suffocating irony.
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Hey, a fat fuck who isn't getting laid says 'cuck' and everybody loses it? ::)
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No dummy, you got it wrong YET AGAIN.
WE show you facts AND we pick on you ;D
What? Where? I must have missed it completely, so pretty please, show me the evidence..