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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Royalty on October 20, 2009, 06:51:39 AM
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I honestly thought that if a person trained heavy and intense, and ate lots of carbs and protein, they could get big enough to be a IFBB pro. I thought that if you followed the pros routines in the magazines that you could be pro, as long as you had good genetics, trained hard, and had followed their diets.
By the time I was 18, I realized all ifbb pros were drugged up :)
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Awesome..and when I was 4 , I thought there really was a big fat man in a red suit who brought presents to all the good little children of the world in a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer...
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history is written by the winners, gentlemen...
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Awesome..and when I was 4 , I thought there really was a big fat man in a red suit who brought presents to all the good little children of the world in a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer...
chick, did you know from day 1 that you had to be on stuff to be pro? I thought it was all training and diet. I was niaive. When did you first train with weights
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Awesome..and when I was 4 , I thought there really was a big fat man in a red suit who brought presents to all the good little children of the world in a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer...
What a valid comparison ;D
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What a valid comparison ;D
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chick, did you know from day 1 that you had to be on stuff to be pro? I thought it was alltraining and diet. I was niaive. When did you first train with weights
Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20. Building a base without the gear was smart and what the guys at the gym I looked up to suggested.
Safe to say, I was given the right advices
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Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20.
WOW!!! 20?! ;D ;D
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when chick comes off he still looks great unlike most pros who are all drugs
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when chick comes off he still looks great unlike most pros who are all drugs
nah, he looks soft and pudgy as hell, Might be due the diet though =)
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why did you shopped a girls face on branch his body?
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who what are like when they are off ::)
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Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20. Building a base without the gear was smart and what the guys at the gym I looked up to suggested.
Safe to say, I was given the right advices
thank you for answering my question Bob
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youre welcome
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hahahah typical roid monkey reasoning
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I honestly thought that if a person trained heavy and intense, and ate lots of carbs and protein, they could get big enough to be a IFBB pro. I thought that if you followed the pros routines in the magazines that you could be pro, as long as you had good genetics, trained hard, and had followed their diets.
By the time I was 18, I realized all ifbb pros were drugged up :)
FLEX magazine didn't trick you. It's your fault for not reading the fine print in the back of the mag which advises youngsters to start juicing themselves to the gills on their 20th birthday (like Bob Chicarello) if they hope to have a physique like those that appear in these pages.
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when i was 16 i thought all the girls loved my personality
BWAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAH AHHHA
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WOW!!! 20?! ;D ;D
Remember Chick started training when he was fairly young, like 14 or 15. So he had around 5yrs before he would have hopped on gear when he turned twenty.
You'll also notice he did not say that he took his first shot @ 20yrs old, just that was the age he decided that he could consider taking something.
Far cry from these days, when someone is looking at Cutler in a magazine, trains for 7 months while eating everything in sight, and when they're aren't big (but fat) they load up on gear. Having never learned to properly train, eat or diet, they get big, bloated, acne and eventually burn out. I've seen it countless times over the years.
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I was 17 or 18 when I realized this too. I guess I was also naive. I started training when I was 13 and was often accused of taking steroids, and thought it was rediculous as all I did was eat a ton and train hard.
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i knew about the age of 15 that pro's were using Supplements...However, i didn't know those "supplements" were really steroids...
I think Lee started using steroids when he was 13 years of Age.
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The pro's take drugs? :'(
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I was 17 or 18 when I realized this too. I guess I was also naive. I started training when I was 13 and was often accused of taking steroids, and thought it was rediculous as all I did was eat a ton and train hard.
Bob can't believe that there's so many 17 and 18 year olds out there who still believe in Santa Claus.
What crazy thing are ya gonna tell Bob next? . . . that these same teenagers are buying bogus bodybuilding supplements because they believe (haha) that the pro on the label is actually taking the crap that's inside the container (and if he is, that it actually makes a difference to his extremely roided-up physique.) There's no way anybody could be so naive, right Bob?
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I honestly thought that if a person trained heavy and intense, and ate lots of carbs and protein, they could get big enough to be a IFBB pro. I thought that if you followed the pros routines in the magazines that you could be pro, as long as you had good genetics, trained hard, and had followed their diets.
By the time I was 18, I realized all ifbb pros were drugged up :)
HAHA....same here. Sad to say but i was a little older and still believed pros were natural. Especially with all the supplements too. TAKE THIS PRODUCT AND LOOK LIKE THIS PRO. MONEY-TECH is the worst influence, especially on newbies.
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supplements=steroids. selfemployed= g4p.
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Remember Chick started training when he was fairly young, like 14 or 15. So he had around 5yrs before he would have hopped on gear when he turned twenty.
You'll also notice he did not say that he took his first shot @ 20yrs old, just that was the age he decided that he could consider taking something.
Far cry from these days, when someone is looking at Cutler in a magazine, trains for 7 months while eating everything in sight, and when they're aren't big (but fat) they load up on gear. Having never learned to properly train, eat or diet, they get big, bloated, acne and eventually burn out. I've seen it countless times over the years.
YUP EXACTLY. or they watch someones dvd before they go train and try to do the same weights they seen ruhl cutler or coleman etc...do, then get frustrated why they cant lift the same weights the pros do. Or alot of people want to look like a "bodybuilder" and after a year or so of training all thier doing is "strongman or powerlifting" training and basically get frustrated about why thier not getting the results or "physiques" they want.
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Natural bodybuilding is a failure. When is anyone going to get that. It has failed time and time again for countless people. If it was a business the plug would have been pulled long ago.
It is amazing Bob Hoffman's marketing ploy has led to the longest running myth in American consumer culture. He was some genius. He message transcended to generations that werent even born yet. Probably using quantum physics of some sort.
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so... Chick has been on and off drugs for 20+ years...
-Capt'n Obvious
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Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20. Building a base without the gear was smart and what the guys at the gym I looked up to suggested.
Safe to say, I was given the right advices
Bob Chic the voice for bodybuilding.com admitting to using STEROIDS!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
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Awesome..and when I was 4 , I thought there really was a big fat man in a red suit who brought presents to all the good little children of the world in a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer...
Common sense told me at the same age that a fat man in a red suit with flying reindeer, who gave all the food children of the world presents, in one night, on one trip, was a lie. Also, because I told my aunts what I wanted, and I got it, with the gift saying from them---not Santa
Chick I too thought I could get close to pro size, but we learn the hard way. By the time you were a gladiator, I didn't know what bodybuilding was. By the time you got your pro car, I didn't know what G4P was, I knew that there was some areas of gayness, but what bodybuilders did to make ends meet, shocked me.
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Remember Chick started training when he was fairly young, like 14 or 15. So he had around 5yrs before he would have hopped on gear when he turned twenty.
You'll also notice he did not say that he took his first shot @ 20yrs old, just that was the age he decided that he could consider taking something.
Far cry from these days, when someone is looking at Cutler in a magazine, trains for 7 months while eating everything in sight, and when they're aren't big (but fat) they load up on gear. Having never learned to properly train, eat or diet, they get big, bloated, acne and eventually burn out. I've seen it countless times over the years.
I enterted my first show in 1979 at 13 years old, and you're right...I didnt take anything until I was about 21.
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Common sense told me at the same age that a fat man in a red suit with flying reindeer, who gave all the food children of the world presents, in one night, on one trip, was a lie. Also, because I told my aunts what I wanted, and I got it, with the gift saying from them---not Santa
Chick I too thought I could get close to pro size, but we learn the hard way. By the time you were a gladiator, I didn't know what bodybuilding was. By the time you got your pro car, I didn't know what G4P was, I knew that there was some areas of gayness, but what bodybuilders did to make ends meet, shocked me.
Yup...there are things that shocked me in life as well...amazing what we learn through maturation and experience
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I bought a few copies of Flex when i was like 12 and was first starting to mess around with weights, i seriously thought that with 10 years training and diet you could look like Arnold Lmao...
I remember showing a friend the magazine and saying "wouldn't it be cool to have muscles like that" then he looked at cover picture of Ronnie and said "that's the gayest thing ever". lmfao, i remember when king kamali was advertising Nitro Tech Night-time in the magazine, i still remember the add where he was pretending to be asleep with the tub beside him lmao, i bought Joe Weider protein supplement once then lol.
Then i stopped weightlifting about 6 months later and didn't start again till January 2008, now im in it for life as natural.
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Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20. Building a base without the gear was smart and what the guys at the gym I looked up to suggested.
Safe to say, I was given the right advices
do you have a pic when you were 20, and in your absolute peak as a natural?
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Common sense told me at the same age that a fat man in a red suit with flying reindeer, who gave all the food children of the world presents, in one night, on one trip, was a lie. Also, because I told my aunts what I wanted, and I got it, with the gift saying from them---not Santa
don't overestimate the role that your aunts played, your aunts were just "the finishing touch" in you getting your gift at Christmas.
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do you have a pic when you were 20, and in your absolute peak as a natural?
Not on hand...but here I am after just winning the Jr. Nationals in 87 at 21...
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Not on hand...but here I am after just winning the Jr. Nationals in 87 at 21...
Bob can you blow that image up a little if you scanned it, looks like a very small picture to me.
jt
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Not on hand...but here I am after just winning the Jr. Nationals in 87 at 21...
Bigger version? you look like a turk with a unibrow when it small like that :D (no offoence ironneck)
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Not on hand...but here I am after just winning the Jr. Nationals in 87 at 21...
Looking great there Bob !!!!!
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Bob did your legs grow the fastest on you during your teens? Or did everything grow equally? Which bodyparts responded best to the stuff at age 21?
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supplements=steroids. selfemployed= g4p.
Trained Harder this year than previous years = did alot more g4p to up tha dosage
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Bob was/is a genetic freak.
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Bob did your legs grow the fastest on you during your teens? Or did everything grow equally? Which bodyparts responded best to the stuff at age 21?
My legs were way ahead of my upper body during my teen years to my early 20's...it took me a long time to fill out as I have a wide shoulder structure
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bob the pic u post is way way too small
plz post bigger pic asap
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Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20. Building a base without the gear was smart and what the guys at the gym I looked up to suggested.
Safe to say, I was given the right advices
I'd say that's pointless. Look at Phil Heath. What "base" did he come from?
Good to at least make some real gains though, before diving into the disgusting world of bb drugs. At least you can say, you put on X amount on your own, unlike someone like Branch Warren or Dave Henry. These guys couldn't eclipse 180 naturally.
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My legs were way ahead of my upper body during my teen years to my early 20's...it took me a long time to fill out as I have a wide shoulder structure
Bob, do you feel that if you pushed your conditionning harder you could have won a few shows (in the open not masters)
I feel so
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I did also......but I also thought wrestling (wwf and nwa) were real fights. No one could tell me the opposite. What about the vitamins, the prayers, the training?
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I got a bit confused when Ashley was bragging to be "drug free".
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I got a bit confused when Ashley was bragging to be "drug free".
lol maybe he only see's the rec drugs are real drugs, like cocaine free, not weed, not pcp stuff like that he means probably in his own mind that is how he explains it.
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i think most kids know they aren't natural, at least the smart ones do :P
i remember being in a waldon's bookstore back in 95 or so, and some middle school aged kids saw a flex magazine and one said "he's on steroids"
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Bob, do you feel that if you pushed your conditionning harder you could have won a few shows (in the open not masters)
I feel so
No...I placed runner up twice and top 6 a few times. I think turning pro earlier would have been the ticket
Could I have pushed the envelope more? sure...but we all make our choices and mine was to explore other ways of making a living from the sport...I have no regrets
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I honestly thought that if a person trained heavy and intense, and ate lots of carbs and protein, they could get big enough to be a IFBB pro. I thought that if you followed the pros routines in the magazines that you could be pro, as long as you had good genetics, trained hard, and had followed their diets.
By the time I was 18, I realized all ifbb pros were drugged up :)
Yeah I thought this too! I thought the nutrition was that good, and the drug testing was like a real thing, government enforced, hahaha how wrong I was.
There was this one pic of Nasser doing a MM pose which I found particularly impressive, but now when I look at it I can see not only is he obviously not natural but his delts are full of synthol!
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lol maybe he only see's the rec drugs are real drugs, like cocaine free, not weed, not pcp stuff like that he means probably in his own mind that is how he explains it.
The 1990 Arnold Classic proved everything.
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supplements=steroids. selfemployed= g4p.
no supplements are wannabe steroid.
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i think most kids know they aren't natural, at least the smart ones do :P
i remember being in a waldon's bookstore back in 95 or so, and some middle school aged kids saw a flex magazine and one said "he's on steroids"
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With family /deeply religeus guys like Haney in the sport, it was a bit hard to believe he'd resort to drug use. He looked amazing even w/o drugs in 1990!!!
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With family /deeply religeus guys like Haney in the sport, it was a bit hard to believe he'd resort to drug use. He looked amazing even w/o drugs in 1990!!!
I'm pretty sure that Lee Haney didn't use steroids because I have an old VHS video where Lee himself says "Bodybuilding is exercise and nutrition at its best, which does not mean the use of anabolic steroids or other such chemicals. For me, Joe Weider's dynamic muscle builder is number one."
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When I was 16 .... all pros WERE natural!
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I'm pretty sure that Lee Haney didn't use steroids because I have an old VHS video where Lee himself says "Bodybuilding is exercise and nutrition at its best, which does not mean the use of anabolic steroids or other such chemicals. For me, Joe Weider's dynamic muscle builder is number one."
Then what did he mean when he said "I promissed Shirly, I'll never stick another chemical into my body" After retiring?
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Then what did he mean when he said "I promissed Shirly, I'll never stick another chemical into my body" After retiring?
I think Lee meant that he wasn't gonna use Joe Weider's dynamic muscle builder supplements anymore.
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I think Lee meant that he wasn't gonna use Joe Weider's dynamic mucle builder supplements anymore.
I miss the muscle builder and weight gainer chewable tablets. They may not have worked but they sure were tasty.
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Chick you are a illegal drug abusing criminal that flat out lies to make a buck
"take this supplement and you'll get big too!"
Lying about how natural you are is typical.
Pretty much..they had forums in BB mags discussing steroids openly. Even though I knew that was the route, I made a decision to be natural until I turned 20. Building a base without the gear was smart and what the guys at the gym I looked up to suggested.
Safe to say, I was given the right advices
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What year was that Regmac?
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What year was that Regmac?
1990-1991 I was addicted to them.
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I honestly thought that if a person trained heavy and intense, and ate lots of carbs and protein, they could get big enough to be a IFBB pro. I thought that if you followed the pros routines in the magazines that you could be pro, as long as you had good genetics, trained hard, and had followed their diets.
By the time I was 18, I realized all ifbb pros were drugged up :)
I had a similar experience. And I don't know which magazines chick was reading that was open about drug use...especially when he was a teenager ::) As an ignorant teen I had subscriptions to FLEX and M&F, and the ONLY time they ever mentioned steroids was to talk about gyno or roid rage or something negative like that.
My sophomore year in high school I actually wrote a letter to FLEX for confirmation or to debunk the myth...of course I never heard from them, nor did they print my letter in the reader's section :D
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I had a similar experience. And I don't know which magazines chick was reading that was open about drug use...especially when he was a teenager ::) As an ignorant teen I had subscriptions to FLEX and M&F, and the ONLY time they ever mentioned steroids was to talk about gyno or roid rage or something negative like that.
My sophomore year in high school I actually wrote a letter to FLEX for confirmation or to debunk the myth...of course I never heard from them, nor did they print my letter in the reader's section :D
Are you kidding?
Befor it was M&F, it was Muscle Builder/ Power...and it had a regular drug column, and many of the guys talked fairly openly about steroid use...Muscle Training Illustrated, Muscle Digest....Dan Douchaine, Jerry Brainium wrote regular articles.
believe it or not...life exsisted before 1990, son :o
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Great site for magazine covershots:
http://vintagemusclemags.com/
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VINTAGE Baby!!
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widest smile ever ;D
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Great hair on the Chickster. I wonder if he's a Fop man, or a Dapper Dan man?
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As a teenager, I had heard about steroids, but, I never realized how much they did until I witnessed the transformation of a bodybuilder named Steve Adell. He was a 200lb guy, who went on the program, blew up to 240 ripped and finished 7th in the 1983 Heavyweight Nationals.
Check out this lineup:
NPC National Bodybuilding Championships Overall Winner Bob Paris
HeavyWeight 1 Bob Paris 2 Rory Leidelmeyer 3 Mike Christian 4 Jeffrey Williams 5 Matt Mendenhall 6 Rich Gaspari 7 Steven Adell 8 Neal Spruce 9 Jon Jordan 10 Jeff Smullen 11 Gregory Comeaux 12 Ron Love 13 Cal Lueneburg 14 Jeff Everson
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Great site for magazine covershots:
http://vintagemusclemags.com/
If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
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If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
oh dear lord...
he was 21 ffs how many photoshoots did you have lined up then?
you don't get along with people on the outside huh?
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If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
retard
Post a pic of yourself smiling "correctly" so we can all learn from your wisdom
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Looking great Bob!!
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If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
haha maybe when you get around to posting that pic you can all show us what stuffing yourself with protein every 2 hours and bodybuilding taking up 50% of life can produce :)
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Smiling = serious business
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retard
Post a pic of yourself smiling "correctly" so we can all learn from your wisdom
I actually attended one of El Mariachi's Smiling Seminars. The dude knows his stuff. ;)
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haha imagine dealing with this asperger's/autistic fella in real life...
You make a smile in response to a good deed to find a response like this:
If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
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Smiling = serious business
I actually attended one of El Mariachi's Smiling Seminars. The dude knows his stuff. ;)
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Are you kidding?
Befor it was M&F, it was Muscle Builder/ Power...and it had a regular drug column, and many of the guys talked fairly openly about steroid use...Muscle Training Illustrated, Muscle Digest....Dan Douchaine, Jerry Brainium wrote regular articles.
believe it or not...life exsisted before 1990, son :o
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Well then what happened? Why did they stop? During "my day" the only magazine that spoke openly about drug use was Greg Zulak's column in Musclemag...if other mags were so open about it back in the 80's why did they stop?
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Well then what happened? Why did they stop? During "my day" the only magazine that spoke openly about drug use was Greg Zulak's column in Musclemag...if other mags were so open about it back in the 80's why did they stop?
Because back then steroid use was legal. As soon as it became illegal, they stopped. As well as the trend in the very late 90's was to be "all natural." Body-For-Life came out, MD went to the All Natural thing...everything changed. But then that started to go belly up, yet 'roids are still illegal so they choose to not run those topics.
As far as MMI, I'm not at all sure, but being out of Canada, they may have a loophole in regards to the steroid questions being printed/asked in the Zulak columns. As well, you'll notice Zulak would constantly preface his answers with warnings of how illegal the drugs are and all that...
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As a teenager, I had heard about steroids, but, I never realized how much they did until I witnessed the transformation of a bodybuilder named Steve Adell. He was a 200lb guy, who went on the program, blew up to 240 ripped and finished 7th in the 1983 Heavyweight Nationals.
Check out this lineup:
NPC National Bodybuilding Championships Overall Winner Bob Paris
HeavyWeight 1 Bob Paris 2 Rory Leidelmeyer 3 Mike Christian 4 Jeffrey Williams 5 Matt Mendenhall 6 Rich Gaspari 7 Steven Adell 8 Neal Spruce 9 Jon Jordan 10 Jeff Smullen 11 Gregory Comeaux 12 Ron Love 13 Cal Lueneburg 14 Jeff Everson
The guy couldn't have chosen a worst year to compete...
That top 6 is like a whos-who of 80's bbing! And he beat Neal Spruce, Ron Love and Everson. Ron Love was a very good bber.
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Because back then steroid use was legal. As soon as it became illegal, they stopped. As well as the trend in the very late 90's was to be "all natural." Body-For-Life came out, MD went to the All Natural thing...everything changed. But then that started to go belly up, yet 'roids are still illegal so they choose to not run those topics.
As far as MMI, I'm not at all sure, but being out of Canada, they may have a loophole in regards to the steroid questions being printed/asked in the Zulak columns. As well, you'll notice Zulak would constantly preface his answers with warnings of how illegal the drugs are and all that...
Chick and I are the same age. I used to read all the mags and don't remember much talk about steroids, and what little you did hear always downplayed their effects. Here's a direct quote from the Pumping Iron book:
"The bodybuilders who use them, do so because they believe they make them heavier and stronger. Whether or not they actually do is still in court. Of eleven controlled studies, six found that weight and strength are increased by the drugs, five found they are not. The researcher in charge of the most recent of these studies is Dr. Larry Golding of Kent State Univ. Golding probably knows as much about the relation of steroids to sport as any man in the country, and it is his belief and the findings of his study that steroids cannot make anyone bigger or stronger except by touching a psychological mechanism known as the placebo effect."
If you think about it, why would there be truthful discussion about steroids in the bbing media? There was no money in it for the mags, whose advertisers were mainly companies that sold protein and weight gain powder.
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If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
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Getbig, post a photo, it's fake. Post a video, probably still...a fake. That fails, they'll die by 40. Too small, swimmer. Too big, all drugs.
hahaha, We've really got it all covered here. Nice work guys.
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Awesome..and when I was 4 , I thought there really was a big fat man in a red suit who brought presents to all the good little children of the world in a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer...
Stop being a dick to the guy and start act like a professional.
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Well then what happened? Why did they stop? During "my day" the only magazine that spoke openly about drug use was Greg Zulak's column in Musclemag...if other mags were so open about it back in the 80's why did they stop?
Flex Magazine had articles on steriods in the mid 90's. They had ex pros like Mike Christian talking about their drug use and dosage. They had all types of articles on drugs that you could on at least 3 articles a month, if not more
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Chick and I are the same age. I used to read all the mags and don't remember much talk about steroids, and what little you did hear always downplayed their effects. Here's a direct quote from the Pumping Iron book:
"The bodybuilders who use them, do so because they believe they make them heavier and stronger. Whether or not they actually do is still in court. Of eleven controlled studies, six found that weight and strength are increased by the drugs, five found they are not. The researcher in charge of the most recent of these studies is Dr. Larry Golding of Kent State Univ. Golding probably knows as much about the relation of steroids to sport as any man in the country, and it is his belief and the findings of his study that steroids cannot make anyone bigger or stronger except by touching a psychological mechanism known as the placebo effect."
If you think about it, why would there be truthful discussion about steroids in the bbing media? There was no money in it for the mags, whose advertisers were mainly companies that sold protein and weight gain powder.
Pete Gyrmkowski had a regular column, Bob Goldman?, Greg Zulak, Dan Duchaine, Jerry Brainum, etc...
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Thats not Tony Robbins
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Flex Magazine had articles on steriods in the mid 90's. They had ex pros like Mike Christian talking about their drug use and dosage. They had all types of articles on drugs that you could on at least 3 articles a month, if not more
Yes I remember that article, I just saw it going through some old mags a few days ago. But in that article, as with every other article they printed, it was to show how bad and "evil" they are. SO why would they show them in such a negative light, only to have a glorified photo shoot, praising a guy who makes his living off of excessive amounts of these drugs on the next page??
I also remember an article where they showed gyno, they had these pictures of this guy with horrible gyno and were showing that they were the expected side effects of steroid use, or the "DEA" article showing the laws, and the cover page to that article showed Shawn Ray in hand cuffs...lol remember that one?
They also had a two part article on a guy who never went pro, forgot his name. But again, the point of the article was him showing how stupid he was for using and how he "almost died."
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If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
LOL getbig has to nitpick everything about chick ;D
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Stop being a dick to the guy and start act like a professional.
He was comically making apoint which I got yet you missed.
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He was comically making apoint which I got yet you missed.
stfu bob's gimmick
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If you dont feel like, or unable to smile correctly dont bother. It looks silly and fake. Try to use more of your upper face muscles when hitting a smile, that way you wont come across as a sad joker on pictures. Its the more natural smiling approach that you need , use the muscles around your eyes. You re a good speaker, but phony as hell as i have judged it.
It's only a bad smile if you want it to be.