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Title: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on January 06, 2016, 12:36:46 PM
More of a symbolic run.

Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
He's presenting himself as an alternative candidate.
01/06/2016
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Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson announced his candidacy for the 2016 presidential election Wednesday. The two-term Republican governor is running as a Libertarian, as he also did in 2012.

In an interview with Fox Business Network, Johnson declared his intentinos and said the largest issue the country will have to deal with after President Barack Obama's presidency is a "$20 trillion debt." He went on to say the government is too big and "unwieldy."

"It's out of control," Johnson continued.

In 2012, Johnson received 0.99 percent of the popular vote, or a total of 1,275,971 votes, as the Libertarian Party's nominee. Johnson announced his candidacy via Twitter in 2011, first running for the Republican Party's nomination. He later dropped out of the GOP field and garnered the support of the Libertarian Party.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gary-johnson-2016-presidential-race_568d6142e4b0a2b6fb6e51a9
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 06, 2016, 02:33:21 PM
if this clown can get his name on the ballots, it is very bad news for the Repub nominee...if he gets even 1-2% of the votes it can make all the difference in the general
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on January 06, 2016, 02:34:15 PM
if this clown can get his name on the ballots, it is very bad news for the Repub nominee...if he gets even 1-2% of the votes it can make all the difference in the general

He was on in 2012.

I voted for him.

Good for him.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on January 06, 2016, 02:50:39 PM
if this clown can get his name on the ballots, it is very bad news for the Repub nominee...if he gets even 1-2% of the votes it can make all the difference in the general

He got .01 percent last time.  I doubt he improves on those numbers much, but I'd actually vote for him over Hillary, Trump, or Jeb. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: absfabs on January 06, 2016, 05:33:53 PM
he has /had best platform save ron paul or rand paul

would make excellent president
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 07, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
maybe so but he will never ever be elected, all he will do in reality is possibly hand the election to Hillary Clinton
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2016, 06:07:45 PM
Looks like I know who I'm voting for in November. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2016, 06:16:36 PM
Looks like I know who I'm voting for in November. 

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Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 03, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
He got .01 percent last time.  I doubt he improves on those numbers much, but I'd actually vote for him over Hillary, Trump, or Jeb. 


Oh brother, haha.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 09, 2016, 09:46:33 AM

Oh brother, haha.

 ::)
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 09, 2016, 09:47:40 AM
Johnson sees third-party candidacy as 'opportunity'
By Rebecca Savransky
May 08, 2016
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Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson said in an interview on Sunday he sees a third-party candidacy as an opportunity, instead of as a threat.

"Well, I think it is a real opportunity. I do think that [Hillary] Clinton and [Donald] Trump are the two most polarizing figures in politics today," Johnson, who is expected to win the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination later this year, said on ABC's "This Week."

"And when 50 percent of Americans now declare themselves as independent, I happen to think that they're libertarian; it's just that they don't know it," he continued.

"Look, fiscally responsible, fiscally conservative, small government and then individual choices — freedom, liberty. Persons should be making choices in their own lives, not the government."

Johnson noted he doesn't think he'd take more votes from Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, than from Clinton, the Democratic front-runner.

"It draws from both sides and — and at the end of the day, 50 percent of Americans say they're independent," he said.

"Well, where's their representation? I think it happens to be libertarian."

Johnson also declined to say if he would support Clinton or Trump if he had to choose.

"You know what? I've been voting libertarian a long time. I read a book in 1971 that, uh, really laid out what it was to be a libertarian. And I have identified myself as a libertarian ever since," he said.

"I'm always believing that there's going to be a libertarian on the ballot."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/279155-johnson-says-he-sees-third-party-candidacy-as-opportunity
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 11, 2016, 11:37:56 AM
Would rather see a debate between Hillary, Trump and McAfee. That would require some popcorn.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on May 11, 2016, 11:44:37 AM
Can somebody please tell this asshole to go away?

We are helping to bring about a liberal Supreme Court which will eventually shit all over our Second Amendment rights and helping to elect a candidate (Hillary) who is opposed to basically everything Us Libertarians stand for.

Boy, what a victory. We really showed them ::)
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 11, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
If it's Trump vs. Hillary in November, Gary Johnson has my vote. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on May 11, 2016, 11:55:06 AM
If it's Trump vs. Hillary in November, Gary Johnson has my vote. 

And when Hillary appoints a left wing justice early 2017 you can thank your precious little ego for such a worthless, meaningless vote.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 11, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
And when Hillary appoints a left wing justice early 2017 you can thank your precious little ego for such a worthless, meaningless vote.

Wait, so I'm voting Gary Johnson because of my "precious little ego"?  You mean it's not because I refuse to vote for a man who isn't very bright, is an extreme narcissist who refuses to take advice, who has the self-control of an elementary school kid, who lacks even basic knowledge about foreign affairs, who is patently dishonest, who bragged in a book about sleeping with another man's woman, who donated money to Hillary and called her a great Secretary of State, and who would be in control of military and nuclear weapons? 

News to me.   
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on May 11, 2016, 12:12:30 PM
Wait, so I'm voting Gary Johnson because of my "precious little ego"?  You mean it's not because I refuse to vote for a man who isn't very bright, is an extreme narcissist who refuses to take advice, who has the self-control of an elementary school kid, who lacks even basic knowledge about foreign affairs, who is patently dishonest, who bragged in a book about sleeping with another man's woman, who donated money to Hillary and called her a great Secretary of State, and who would be in control of military and nuclear weapons?  

News to me.  

Hillary is going to nominate a decisively Left wing Justice and Trump won't, all your silly little ridiculous conspiracies aside.

If trump sucks you primary him with Cruz or Ryan in 2020 and take him out but a Supreme Court Selection lasts decades.

You and your temper tantrums will finally hit home come 2017 I can assure you of that.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 11, 2016, 12:14:54 PM
Hillary is going to nominate a decisively Left wing Justice and Trump won't, all your silly little ridiculous  conspiracies aside.

If trump sucks you primary him with Cruz or Ryan in 2020 and take him out but a Supreme Court Selection lasts decades.

You and your temper tantrums will finally hit home come 2017 I can assure you of that.

Temper tantrums?  LOL!  The heck you talking about?  I feel like I'm communicating with one of those CT nuts.  lol

You can put your faith in Trump.  I will not.   
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on May 11, 2016, 12:22:19 PM
Temper tantrums?  LOL!  The heck you talking about?  I feel like I'm communicating with one of those CT nuts.  lol

You can put your faith in Trump.  I will not.   

More faith in Trump to nominate a Supreme Court justice than Hillary and I would bet the house on that.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 11, 2016, 12:23:34 PM
More faith in Trump to nominate a Supreme Court justice than Hillary and I would bet the house on that.

Fine.  Bet the house.  And if you "win," watch the country crash and burn.  We are screwed either way.   
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 11, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
Fine.  Bet the house.  And if you "win," watch the country crash and burn.  We are screwed either way.   

correct.  Repubs dancing like they just won the lottery.  Yall just picked a lifetime liberal and clinton bed-buddy to run against hilary.  Great. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Temper tantrums?  LOL!  The heck you talking about?  I feel like I'm communicating with one of those CT nuts.  lol

You can put your faith in Trump.  I will not.   



Oh my god Dos yet another CTer....you're getting pretty paranoid these days of people with other opinions. Take a deep breath.

Poly, welcome to the club. Haha..
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2016, 02:11:32 PM


Oh my god Dos yet another CTer....you're getting pretty paranoid these days of people with other opinions. Take a deep breath.

Poly, welcome to the club. Haha..

I didn't call him a CT nut.  I don't think he's a 9/11 Troofer.  You crazies are in a special class of stupid all by yourself. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on May 12, 2016, 03:06:24 PM


Oh my god Dos yet another CTer....you're getting pretty paranoid these days of people with other opinions. Take a deep breath.

Poly, welcome to the club. Haha..

Thanks bro.

We have til November to talk these guys off the ledge. 8)

Formerly #nevertrump guy Ben Shapiro wrote a good article yesterday stating how he was 100% against Trump and how much he despises parts of his campaign style but how he could also possibly be swayed to hold his nose and pull the lever for Trump because...well....Hillar y.

I am confident that that one word alone will be enough to eventually snap some of these guys back into reality.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2016, 04:02:57 PM
I didn't call him a CT nut.  I don't think he's a 9/11 Troofer.  You crazies are in a special class of stupid all by yourself. 

the republican nominee is a 911 Cter truther.   doesn't that drive ya nuts? 

spend ten years dissing them, and now he's taking over.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2016, 05:13:04 PM
the republican nominee is a 911 Cter truther.   doesn't that drive ya nuts? 

spend ten years dissing them, and now he's taking over.

I don't take anything you say at face value.  You are incapable of telling the truth.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2016, 05:47:23 PM
I don't take anything you say at face value.

Ari Fleischer accused Trump of being a 911 truther.   Who are you going to believe, awesome republican ari, or liberal trump?

Actually, trump never denies it... and he goes on alex jones and well, infowars/prison planet is pretty much working to get trump elected.

so yeah, the repub nominee is a damn big CTer.  good luck with that ;)
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
Ari Fleischer accused Trump of being a 911 truther.   Who are you going to believe, awesome republican ari, or liberal trump?

Actually, trump never denies it... and he goes on alex jones and well, infowars/prison planet is pretty much working to get trump elected.

so yeah, the repub nominee is a damn big CTer.  good luck with that ;)

I can tell who I don't believe:  the compulsive liar (you). 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
I can tell who I don't believe:  the compulsive liar (you). 

https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/245493715727159296

Read about it.   Ari fleischer called Trump a 911 truther.

and yes, trump's been on jones' nutty show, and they're great buddies.

LOL at you not knowing this.  You feel dumber than ever now.  Trump is a 911 conspiracy theorist.  LOL at you not knowing this - do you even know who alex jones is?  Oh brother, you're clueless on this, huh?  No worries, read about it.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: AbrahamG on May 12, 2016, 07:04:37 PM
he has /had best platform save ron paul or rand paul

would make excellent president

Don't include Rand in this comparison.  He's a total sellout.  Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are ok in my book and I am a self professed far left liberal.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 13, 2016, 09:37:43 AM
https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/245493715727159296

Read about it.   Ari fleischer called Trump a 911 truther.

and yes, trump's been on jones' nutty show, and they're great buddies.

LOL at you not knowing this.  You feel dumber than ever now.  Trump is a 911 conspiracy theorist.  LOL at you not knowing this - do you even know who alex jones is?  Oh brother, you're clueless on this, huh?  No worries, read about it.

I feel dumber every single time I read one of your posts.  So I clicked on the link.  Here is what it says:

Ari FleischerVerified account
‏@AriFleischer
How can the NYT ridicule birthers then make their op-ed page home to a truther??

https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/245493715727159296

You claim the above twitter comment supports this:

the republican nominee is a 911 Cter truther.   

Geeze Louise.   :-[
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 13, 2016, 09:42:31 AM
Care to explain his close relationship with alex jones?   ;)
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 13, 2016, 09:57:20 AM
Care to explain why you lied about Trump being a 9/11 Troofer?

Rhetorical question.  You are incapable of telling the truth. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 13, 2016, 10:04:56 AM
Care to explain why you lied about Trump being a 9/11 Troofer?

Rhetorical question.  You are incapable of telling the truth. 
Donald Trump's extended riff on 9/11 last weekend — "the World Trade Center came down under the reign of George W. Bush," and so on — has not merely been rejected by the mainstream right. It has been described as disqualifying, as a conspiracy theory, as something "a liberal Democrat" (per Dick Cheney) or "Michael Moore" (per Jeb Bush) might say. And many of the critics have used a potent neologism, "truther," to insist that Trump has gone beyond the bounds of sanity.

"I thought Trump really exposed himself as a truther, and I don’t think that will play real well in South Carolina," said Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/16/trumps-foes-hes-a-911-truther-truthers-would-disagree/
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 13, 2016, 10:08:31 AM
Donald Trump's extended riff on 9/11 last weekend — "the World Trade Center came down under the reign of George W. Bush," and so on — has not merely been rejected by the mainstream right. It has been described as disqualifying, as a conspiracy theory, as something "a liberal Democrat" (per Dick Cheney) or "Michael Moore" (per Jeb Bush) might say. And many of the critics have used a potent neologism, "truther," to insist that Trump has gone beyond the bounds of sanity.

"I thought Trump really exposed himself as a truther, and I don’t think that will play real well in South Carolina," said Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/16/trumps-foes-hes-a-911-truther-truthers-would-disagree/

Did you read the link you just posted?

"There's really no evidence that Trump doubts the facts of 9/11 — that 19 hijackers affiliated with al-Qaeda managed to evade detection and take down four commercial planes, two of them destroying the World Trade Center and murdering thousands of people."

LOL!
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 13, 2016, 10:18:28 AM
Did you read the link you just posted?

"There's really no evidence that Trump doubts the facts of 9/11 — that 19 hijackers affiliated with al-Qaeda managed to evade detection and take down four commercial planes, two of them destroying the World Trade Center and murdering thousands of people."

LOL!

I just bumped the Trump 911 truther thread.

Just read his statements, including those about pre-911 warnings.   

You really wanna defend this guy, I get it.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 13, 2016, 10:29:15 AM
I just bumped the Trump 911 truther thread.

Just read his statements, including those about pre-911 warnings.   

You really wanna defend this guy, I get it.

Wait.  So you want me to read yet another link that doesn't support your lying, deranged rants?  LOL! 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
Libertarian's Gary Johnson Vows to Target Clinton, Trump in National Race
By John Gizzi
Sunday, 22 May 2016
   
Hours after announcing Friday that Massachusetts’ former Republican Gov. William Weld would be his vice presidential choice, likely Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson told Newsmax that what he considered our “strongest ticket ever” would break into double digits in a fall contest with Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

The former New Mexico governor, Johnson, spoke to us shortly after a Fox News poll of a three-way race including him, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, showed him drawing 10 percent among likely voters.

If those numbers were to hold up, his party could pull 10 times the best showing of any Libertarian candidate since the party began fielding nominees for president in 1972.

Along with what he considers the advantage of Weld on his ticket, Johnson feels the Libertarians will at least reach double digits in its vote total this fall because of presumptive nominees Clinton and Trump.

But the polling data suggests the Libertarians may help Trump more than hurt him.

Johnson says he will be targeting both Clinton and Trump.

"She'll do more to make government grow and isn't going to change anything," he said. "At the end of the day, taxes will go up."

He noted that Trump also is for big government and "all over the board on many issues. But if you take him at his word, his presidency means more government."

As an example of what he means, Johnson pointed to the issue of immigration and Trump's signature issue of building a wall along the southern border with Mexico.

"He says he wants to build a wall and then deport 11 million people here illegally," said the Libertarian, "That's big government right there. These are people who take jobs Americans don't want and whose only major barrier is the language, which they can overcome."

He went on to cite his disagreements with Trump's calls for requiring Apple to manufacture products in the U.S., the revival of waterboarding to interrogate prisoners in the war on terror, and killing families of suspected terrorists.

As for Trump's most recent controversial statement that he would talk to North Korean strongman Kim Jong-un, Johnson said: "I'm open to anything, but I don't see the wisdom in that. [Kim] seems to be nuts. But I do agree that North Korea is the biggest threat in the world today because one of these days, one of their ICBMs is going to work."

With both Trump and Clinton holding high unfavorables among voters, some see a third party opportunity. The Libertarians will likely have ballot access in all or almost all 50 states.

With Libertarians meeting in Orlando for their national convention May 27-28, Johnson is considered a shoo-in for another nomination for president and Weld is almost sure to be nominated for vice president.

Recalling how he and Weld were governors together in the 1990s, Johnson said, "Bill was always the smartest guy in the room" and how he admired that the Bay State governor was "fiscally conservative and socially liberal — which is where I am — and had won twice in a heavily Democratic state."

"And when President Clinton appointed Bill to be ambassador to Mexico, [the late North Carolina Republican Sen.] Jesse Helms blocked his nomination in part because he was pro-gay rights, in favor of a woman’s right to choose [abortion], and for legalization of marijuana," he told us, "These are all positions I have always held."

According to Johnson, the idea of a "Johnson-Weld" ticket "originated with me." After Weld, who now practices law in New York, replied to an email from the Johnson staff on May 10, the two spoke by phone.

Along with Weld's wife, Leslie, and Johnson's longtime campaign adviser Ron Nielson, the two former governors held a private meeting at Harrah’s Hotel in Las Vegas on May 14 and a subsequent dinner at the nearby Treasure Island restaurant.

Will he seek out Mitt Romney, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, and others pursuing a new right-of-center third party candidacy as the alternative to Trump?

"No," Johnson shot back.

Now that such hoped-for third party candidates such as retired Gen. James Mattis have said no to Kristol and Company, Johnson said, "They now can call us anytime they want. We'd be glad to meet with them."

"And I estimate it will take about $50 million for us to play in the game," he added. "That's a lot. But with two of the most polarizing figures in U.S. politics as the likely major party nominees, the Libertarian Party has more opportunities than ever before."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Libertarian-Gary-Johnson-John-Gizzi/2016/05/22/id/730093/#ixzz49UzEoZu3
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 23, 2016, 10:16:20 AM
Almost no one knows he's running.  That can't be very helpful to him.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2016, 10:51:40 AM
Almost no one knows he's running.  That can't be very helpful to him.

IF he can get on stage at a televised debate - and that's a big IF.... 

He can provide ANY alternative to a nation that knows trump is a d-bag and hilary is an evil liar.

As long as he's not an evil lying douchebag, he can win some votes.  He won't win, of course, but he can peel 8 or 9% off in a race where both options are shithead NY liberal RINOs who stand for nothing besides grabbing power.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 23, 2016, 11:14:23 AM
IF he can get on stage at a televised debate - and that's a big IF.... 

He can provide ANY alternative to a nation that knows trump is a d-bag and hilary is an evil liar.

As long as he's not an evil lying douchebag, he can win some votes.  He won't win, of course, but he can peel 8 or 9% off in a race where both options are shithead NY liberal RINOs who stand for nothing besides grabbing power.

I'll admit to being mostly ignorant about him, but if he got onto a nationally-broadcast debate stage with the other two and he managed to administer some hard swings on them, we may be surprised at how far he could go.

But you're right, what a giant 'if' that is, to think he might get the opportunity.  Not cool at all that things are this way.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2016, 11:17:40 AM
I'll admit to being mostly ignorant about him, but if he got onto a nationally-broadcast debate stage with the other two and he managed to administer some hard swings on them, we may be surprised at how far he could go.

But you're right, what a giant 'if' that is, to think he might get the opportunity.  Not cool at all that things are this way.

The 2 in the race are both polarizing idiots and people will have to hold their nose to vote for either.


If Johnson could just show up, say positive things, keep his dignity, and avoid rolling in the mud with these 2 clods, who knows.   It's 2016.  Two lying RINOs have the nomination.  At this point, anything can really happen.

(http://potus2016.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gary_johnson_2016_-_gary_johnson.jpg)
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 23, 2016, 11:26:41 AM
I really don't recall ever seeing the guy anywhere.  Will look up some of his debates and watch him.

If he's good, then it's all the more reason to figure they'll never let him within a 100 miles of Hillary on a stage.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2016, 11:32:12 AM
I really don't recall ever seeing the guy anywhere.  Will look up some of his debates and watch him.

If he's good, then it's all the more reason to figure they'll never let him within a 100 miles of Hillary on a stage.

He was very good on NCIS.   

Yeah, I doubt they'll let him get into the debate. Although the anti-moron feeling is strong, and even though he's unknown, he's at 11% already, to Clinton 42%, Trump 34%.     He eats a LOT of the Trump vote actually. 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/libertarian-gary-johnson-double-digits-race-agains/
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 23, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
Johnson-Weld Not Your Typical Third-Party Ticket

Boston Herald

With a platform that is socially liberal and fiscally conservative, the Libertarian party’s national convention will take place this Thursday through Monday in Orlando, Fla., and in a “normal” presidential election year this would be met with a “who cares.”

But — as we have seen time and time again — the 2016 election has been anything but normal.

Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton and presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump both have unfavorable ratings above 50 percent — meaning that when Election Day comes, millions will vote against, rather than for, one of these polarizing candidates.

Much of the electorate is starving for a third option because they believe the choice between Clinton and Trump is a choice between untrustworthy and unpredictable.

It is expected that former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson will be the Libertarian nominee.

Johnson has already announced that former Bay State Gov. Bill Weld will be his running mate.

Johnson and Weld have more governing experience — 16 years — than Clinton and Trump combined.

And although some national polls currently show Johnson earning just 10 percent of the vote, if he polls at 15 percent he will be allowed on the debate stage this fall.

But for Johnson to run for president, millions, if not billions, of dollars must be raised.

Fortunately, that tall task may be handled by Republican David Koch — a man who has a net worth of nearly $50 billion.

A story surfaced earlier this week that Koch would contribute tens of millions of dollars to Johnson’s presidential campaign, though both Johnson and Koch denied the report.

Despite their denials, the idea of Koch underwriting a Johnson-Weld ticket is not that far-fetched.

Koch, who has said he will not back Trump, is expected to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into down ballot elections and his true political soul is that of a Libertarian.

After all, Koch was the party’s nominee for vice president in 1980.

A third-party candidate has not won a state since 1968, when former Alabama Gov. George Wallace won five states and 46 electoral votes.

So the question becomes: Can Johnson-Weld win a single state? Not likely.

But this time around the Libertarian party will have a viable, experienced ticket that may be very well financed. If they are included in the debates — at least American voters will have another choice.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 23, 2016, 11:40:26 AM
He was very good on NCIS.   

Yeah, I doubt they'll let him get into the debate. Although the anti-moron feeling is strong, and even though he's unknown, he's at 11% already, to Clinton 42%, Trump 34%.     He eats a LOT of the Trump vote actually. 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/libertarian-gary-johnson-double-digits-race-agains/

Really, I'd say 11% is very significant in this case, because I'd imagine that's similar to the percentage of people who are even aware of him.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2016, 11:43:28 AM
Really, I'd say 11% is very significant in this case, because I'd imagine that's similar to the percentage of people who are even aware of him.

Yep.  I'd guess about 2% of the country really knows and loves this ticket.  The other 9% there are just saying "Anybody but Trump or Hilary!"

All he has to do is show up and not act the fool.   Often, the LESS the people know about a candidate, the MORE they like them.  Palin lost points every time she spoke.  Johnson should show up, act dignified, not get emotional/rattled with insults from trump, and just provide a sensible alternative to these two assclowns.

It's 2016.  Literally, anything can happen.   People are NOT voting their positions/beliefs in 2016 because, well, those of trump and hilary are just so close.  People are voting for personality, leadership, strength, control, etc.  So any odd positions Johnson may carry - they might not hurt him all that much.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 23, 2016, 11:53:54 AM
Yep.  I'd guess about 2% of the country really knows and loves this ticket.  The other 9% there are just saying "Anybody but Trump or Hilary!"

All he has to do is show up and not act the fool.   Often, the LESS the people know about a candidate, the MORE they like them.  Palin lost points every time she spoke.  Johnson should show up, act dignified, not get emotional/rattled with insults from trump, and just provide a sensible alternative to these two assclowns.

It's 2016.  Literally, anything can happen.   People are NOT voting their positions/beliefs in 2016 because, well, those of trump and hilary are just so close.  People are voting for personality, leadership, strength, control, etc.  So any odd positions Johnson may carry - they might not hurt him all that much.

I really hate to say this, but considering the above from the Herald, it seems we're back to pointing at Hillary.  How in the bleeding hell is it that everything seems to benefit her, despite her worthlessness as a candidate?
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 31, 2016, 10:33:28 AM
Libertarians pick ticket, slam Trump
By Eli Watkins, CNN
Sun May 29, 2016

Orlando, Florida (CNN)Libertarians on Sunday selected a presidential ticket headed by former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, who lit into presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump on immigration and a range of other issues.

At the party convention in Orlando, Florida, Johnson got his preferred running mate, former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, in a weekend gathering that drew sharp contrasts with the major party candidates -- Trump and Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee.

Johnson described the real estate mogul's immigration policies as "just racist," particularly the Republican's call to deport 11 million undocumented people currently in the country.

Libertarian activists contend their ticket could play a pivotal role in the 2016 campaign, with Trump and Clinton both viewed unfavorably by large swaths of the electorate. Even grabbing a small percentage of the vote in key states could affect the Electoral College calculus.

Trump was a frequent target of criticism of many Libertarians at the weekend convention. In addition to immigration participants particularly took issue with Trump's stated positions on international trade and national security -- all of which stand in firm opposition to a party that tends to favor lax immigration restrictions, free trade and is skeptical of military intervention. Austin Petersen, one of the presidential candidates who lost to Johnson, called Trump a fascist, a term regularly echoed throughout the convention.

At one point on Sunday, an announcer told the convention that Trump had begun attacking Johnson and Weld. The audience roared in approval at the news. It was not immediately apparent what attacks the announcer was referring to, but in a statement to the New York Times about Weld, Trump said, "I don't talk about his alcoholism."

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment Sunday night.

Johnson was the party's nominee in 2012 and once again won the position despite backlash from the party's more radical Libertarian wing.

Weld, for his part, took a somewhat more nuanced tone toward the Libertarians' rivals.

"Someone doesn't have to be disaffected with Ms. Clinton to think that we have a good story," Weld said. "One doesn't have to be Never Trump to see that we were two of the most fiscally conservative governors in the United States."

Thanking the Libertarian delegates after his victory, Johnson played up his general election chances.

"At a minimum, I think we're in the presidential debates," Johnson said to cheers.

Johnson also called for inclusion in more national polling surveys.

"This is another voice at the table," Johnson said. "How about some skeptic at the table when it comes to these military interventions?"

In the first round of voting, Johnson reached 49.5 percent of the vote, according to the official party total, just shy of the majority needed for victory. His nearest opponents, Petersen and John McAfee, reached 21 and 14 percent respectively. On the second round of voting, Johnson clinched the nomination with 55.8 percent of the vote. But his preferred choice for the vice-presidential nomination, Weld, also came up just short of 50 percent on the first round of balloting, leading to a second vote, which he won with just over 50 percent of the vote.

Many Libertarian activists were skeptical of Weld, arguing his 1991-97 gubernatorial tenure saw too much growth in government and new gun control measures. But Johnson argued Weld could bring momentum and fundraising power to the Libertarian ticket, and the delegates obliged him.

"I pledge to you that I will stay with the Libertarian Party for life," Weld said before the vice presidential nominating contest.

Johnson received almost 1 percent of the general election vote in 2012, but said that in a year of unpopular offerings from the Democratic and Republican parties, he stands a chance of breaking through.

A recent national poll had Johnson receiving 10 percent of support from registered voters, drawing his strongest support from respondents under 35. Another national poll showed 44 percent of registered voters would want a third party to run against Trump and Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee.

The Libertarian Party is the only third party with ballot access in 50 states. This means Johnson will be the only alternative to Trump and Clinton available to all voters in this election.

Just before the nomination vote, Johnson said if he were to win the nomination, he would head to New York on Monday for media opportunities.
Johnson, who served as New Mexico governor as a Republican from 1995-2003, said too few people knew what a Libertarian is, and that his job is to change that.

Libertarian National Committee chair Nicholas Sarwark spoke to press following the nomination process, discussing the Libertarian Party's outreach and fundraising efforts. Sarwark said the party had established a "back channel" to the Koch brothers, in the hopes the wealthy libertarian-leaning funders donate to the Libertarian Party. Sarwark also said he had been speaking to Matt Kibbe, former president of conservative advocacy group Freedomworks, about supporting the party's nominee.

The convention at times got rowdy. Many candidates issued lengthy protests and changed strategies throughout the day. Delegates stormed through the halls with signs and chants. At one point, a man did a striptease on stage until he sat before the audience -- and live television -- in nothing but his underwear.

"Never underestimate the ability of Libertarians to shoot themselves in the foot," said Christopher Barber, a delegate from Georgia, said before and after the display on stage.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/29/politics/libertarian-party-nominee-vote/
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: James on May 31, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
Libertarians pick ticket, slam Trump
By Eli Watkins, CNN
Sun May 29, 2016

Orlando, Florida (CNN)Libertarians on Sunday selected a presidential ticket headed by former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, who lit into presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump on immigration and a range of other issues.

At the party convention in Orlando, Florida, Johnson got his preferred running mate, former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, in a weekend gathering that drew sharp contrasts with the major party candidates -- Trump and Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee.

Johnson described the real estate mogul's immigration policies as "just racist," particularly the Republican's call to deport 11 million undocumented people currently in the country.

Libertarian activists contend their ticket could play a pivotal role in the 2016 campaign, with Trump and Clinton both viewed unfavorably by large swaths of the electorate. Even grabbing a small percentage of the vote in key states could affect the Electoral College calculus.

Trump was a frequent target of criticism of many Libertarians at the weekend convention. In addition to immigration participants particularly took issue with Trump's stated positions on international trade and national security -- all of which stand in firm opposition to a party that tends to favor lax immigration restrictions, free trade and is skeptical of military intervention. Austin Petersen, one of the presidential candidates who lost to Johnson, called Trump a fascist, a term regularly echoed throughout the convention.

At one point on Sunday, an announcer told the convention that Trump had begun attacking Johnson and Weld. The audience roared in approval at the news. It was not immediately apparent what attacks the announcer was referring to, but in a statement to the New York Times about Weld, Trump said, "I don't talk about his alcoholism."

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment Sunday night.

Johnson was the party's nominee in 2012 and once again won the position despite backlash from the party's more radical Libertarian wing.

Weld, for his part, took a somewhat more nuanced tone toward the Libertarians' rivals.

"Someone doesn't have to be disaffected with Ms. Clinton to think that we have a good story," Weld said. "One doesn't have to be Never Trump to see that we were two of the most fiscally conservative governors in the United States."

Thanking the Libertarian delegates after his victory, Johnson played up his general election chances.

"At a minimum, I think we're in the presidential debates," Johnson said to cheers.

Johnson also called for inclusion in more national polling surveys.

"This is another voice at the table," Johnson said. "How about some skeptic at the table when it comes to these military interventions?"

In the first round of voting, Johnson reached 49.5 percent of the vote, according to the official party total, just shy of the majority needed for victory. His nearest opponents, Petersen and John McAfee, reached 21 and 14 percent respectively. On the second round of voting, Johnson clinched the nomination with 55.8 percent of the vote. But his preferred choice for the vice-presidential nomination, Weld, also came up just short of 50 percent on the first round of balloting, leading to a second vote, which he won with just over 50 percent of the vote.

Many Libertarian activists were skeptical of Weld, arguing his 1991-97 gubernatorial tenure saw too much growth in government and new gun control measures. But Johnson argued Weld could bring momentum and fundraising power to the Libertarian ticket, and the delegates obliged him.

"I pledge to you that I will stay with the Libertarian Party for life," Weld said before the vice presidential nominating contest.

Johnson received almost 1 percent of the general election vote in 2012, but said that in a year of unpopular offerings from the Democratic and Republican parties, he stands a chance of breaking through.

A recent national poll had Johnson receiving 10 percent of support from registered voters, drawing his strongest support from respondents under 35. Another national poll showed 44 percent of registered voters would want a third party to run against Trump and Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee.

The Libertarian Party is the only third party with ballot access in 50 states. This means Johnson will be the only alternative to Trump and Clinton available to all voters in this election.

Just before the nomination vote, Johnson said if he were to win the nomination, he would head to New York on Monday for media opportunities.
Johnson, who served as New Mexico governor as a Republican from 1995-2003, said too few people knew what a Libertarian is, and that his job is to change that.

Libertarian National Committee chair Nicholas Sarwark spoke to press following the nomination process, discussing the Libertarian Party's outreach and fundraising efforts. Sarwark said the party had established a "back channel" to the Koch brothers, in the hopes the wealthy libertarian-leaning funders donate to the Libertarian Party. Sarwark also said he had been speaking to Matt Kibbe, former president of conservative advocacy group Freedomworks, about supporting the party's nominee.

The convention at times got rowdy. Many candidates issued lengthy protests and changed strategies throughout the day. Delegates stormed through the halls with signs and chants. At one point, a man did a striptease on stage until he sat before the audience -- and live television -- in nothing but his underwear.

"Never underestimate the ability of Libertarians to shoot themselves in the foot," said Christopher Barber, a delegate from Georgia, said before and after the display on stage.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/29/politics/libertarian-party-nominee-vote/

Fact: You are either going to live in Trump town or Hillary town, that's the 2 choices. You can protest all you want, but that doesn't accomplish anything but help elect Hillary in the end and get you moved to Hillary Town.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on May 31, 2016, 11:28:40 AM
Fact: You are either going to live in Trump town or Hillary town, that's the 2 choices. You can protest all you want, but that doesn't accomplish anything but help elect Hillary in the end and get you moved to Hillary Town.


let's see what polls say as time passes.  hilary/Trump are the 2 most hated we've ever seen.  We never know if a 3rd party guy could get 40% and (with the other two taking 30% each), actually win it.

Johnson is at 11% already.  If he gets up to 15%, he gets in the debate.  It's 2016, when a lying shill like hilary and a dem plant obnoxious blowhard like Trump have managed to win nominations.  If there's ANY year where anything can happen, it's this one.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 31, 2016, 11:36:33 AM
Johnson's ideas suck when it comes to immigration.  He uses faggified, worn-out lines about "Americans won't do it!" and "that's racist!" etc.

He's just another weak gimp when it comes to immigration, and his ideas are self-defeating trash when it comes to the issue.

But he knows, too, it's a way to increase his chances to be heard through the media.  Giving the message it wants politicians to give.

Either way, he's acting like a flake and I don't appreciate it.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on May 31, 2016, 12:03:13 PM
Johnson's ideas suck when it comes to immigration.  He uses faggified, worn-out lines about "Americans won't do it!" and "that's racist!" etc.

He's just another weak gimp when it comes to immigration, and his ideas are self-defeating trash when it comes to the issue.

But he knows, too, it's a way to increase his chances to be heard through the media.  Giving the message it wants politicians to give.

Either way, he's acting like a flake and I don't appreciate it.

But it is mostly racist.

No one cares about the illegals from Ireland or Canada or China... They only seem to care about the illegals that are of Latino or Middle Eastern decent.

Correct?
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 31, 2016, 12:32:12 PM
But it is mostly racist.

No one cares about the illegals from Ireland or Canada or China... They only seem to care about the illegals that are of Latino or Middle Eastern decent.

Correct?

Only the most reptilian form of any argument could be racist.  And when it comes to this situation, it's what people use when they want to "show" that an anti-immigration argument "must" be as low as racism.

No, the real story is that we (typical, everyday people) cannot compete against the reckless, pointless, stupid level of population growth in the rest of the world.  We need to protect ourselves from it.  It has done too much damage to the civilized world already and it can only get worse.

And btw, people from places like Ireland and Canada aren't likely to offer themselves up as slaves.  That may have something to do with it.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on May 31, 2016, 12:33:59 PM
Only the most reptilian form of any argument could be racist.  And when it comes to this situation, it's what people use when they want to "show" that an anti-immigration argument "must" be as low as racism.

No, the real story is that we (typical, everyday people) cannot compete against the reckless, pointless, stupid level of population growth in the rest of the world.  We need to protect ourselves from it.  It has done too much damage to the civilized world already and it can only get worse.

And btw, people from places like Ireland and Canada aren't likely to offer themselves up as slaves.  That may have something to do it.

They are still illegal though right? Shouldn't we hate them as much as the rest of the "illegals" we claim to be against.

Somehow we don't seem to consider those people "illegal".
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on May 31, 2016, 12:43:21 PM
Fact: You are either going to live in Trump town or Hillary town, that's the 2 choices. You can protest all you want, but that doesn't accomplish anything but help elect Hillary in the end and get you moved to Hillary Town.


Or you could vote for neither one. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 31, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
They are still illegal though right? Shouldn't we hate them as much as the rest of the "illegals" we claim to be against.

Somehow we don't seem to consider those people "illegal".

Um, you are free to hate whatever you want.  If it is a matter of degradation to the value of work (and it is), then I'd say that may answer it for you.

Btw, I hope you don't think you're informing me that we have racists in our society.  And anyone who thinks race is a valid argument against immigration, needs to get their Loser stick ready to hit themselves with it.  Because it is not only a silly idea, but it won't work.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on May 31, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Um, you are free to hate whatever you want.  If it is a matter of degradation to the value of work (and it is), then I'd say that may answer it for you.

Btw, I hope you don't think you're informing me that we have racists in our society.  And anyone who thinks race is a valid argument against immigration, needs to get their Loser stick ready to hit themselves with it.  Because it is not only a silly idea, but it won't work.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to convey I suppose.

I do think race is somewhat a valid argument we do not treat all illegals the same based on their race. It's not me doing it. It's others.

Trump never talked about those evil Canadians or Irish did he? My point is that if we are going to be against immigration, because they are illegal, we shouldn't be labeling the heritage as a problem. That's what Trump and many of his supporters have done.

That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 31, 2016, 01:17:50 PM
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to convey I suppose.

I do think race is somewhat a valid argument we do not treat all illegals the same based on their race. It's not me doing it. It's others.

Trump never talked about those evil Canadians or Irish did he? My point is that if we are going to be against immigration, because they are illegal, we shouldn't be labeling the heritage as a problem. That's what Trump and many of his supporters have done.

That's all I'm saying.

I mean it (race) isn't a valid argument to use against much of anything, and immigration is no different in that regard.

But I understand people will do it, especially when they're around others who pretend to validate it.

No, plenty of quality people out there from all races, and that is a fact.   If someone recognizes problems with immigration and wants to express it, then that person should steer completely away from mentioning race.  100% away from it.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on May 31, 2016, 02:57:06 PM
I mean it (race) isn't a valid argument to use against much of anything, and immigration is no different in that regard.

But I understand people will do it, especially when they're around others who pretend to validate it.

No, plenty of quality people out there from all races, and that is a fact.   If someone recognizes problems with immigration and wants to express it, then that person should steer completely away from mentioning race.  100% away from it.

I agree with your premise. It should never be about race, but often times it is.

When Trump says they send us their worst. Their criminals... So on... and he does it to two very specific ethnic backgrounds, well, you get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 31, 2016, 04:06:17 PM
I agree with your premise. It should never be about race, but often times it is.

When Trump says they send us their worst. Their criminals... So on... and he does it to two very specific ethnic backgrounds, well, you get what I'm saying.

Yes.  He won't come out and say the real solution (attacking the profit-making) so he should stfu about it until he's ready to do that.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: AbrahamG on May 31, 2016, 05:22:31 PM
I agree with your premise. It should never be about race, but often times it is.

When Trump says they send us their worst. Their criminals... So on... and he does it to two very specific ethnic backgrounds, well, you get what I'm saying.

More often than not.  Don't give in to these retards.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on May 31, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
Fantasyland.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
Libertarian hopeful Johnson insists he can mount competitive campaign
By Eugene Scott, CNN
Sat June 11, 2016

Washington (CNN) — Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson said Saturday his ticket is moving toward raising the $20 million that he says is needed to launch a competitive presidential bid -- even though he had a paltry $15,000 in the bank as of his most recent campaign finance report.

"When I interviewed you and former Gov. (Bill) Weld just a couple of weeks ago, we noted that you had at the last filing period about $15,000 on hand. Frankly, that's not enough to buy you a good used car," CNN's Victor Blackwell told Johnson. "But Gov. Weld said that you need $20 to $30 million to really get into the conversation and for people to take you seriously. How's that progress? Are you raising the big-dollar donations that you would need to get to this $20 to $30 million threshold that Gov. Weld said?"

"It is a process, so first you got to engage in dialogue and that dialogue is actually occurring," Johnson replied on "CNN Newsroom." "There has to be interest. That interest is there. Has that $20 to $30 million transpired? Meaning have checks been written? Not to this point, but it is a process. And it looks pretty bright."

At the end of the April filing period, the most recent period for which data is available, Johnson had $14,924 cash on hand, though that was before Johnson officially became the Libertarian Party's nominee. He cited a recent Fox News poll that found him earning 12% support, which he said should encourage voters. To qualify for a major presidential debate, a candidate must cross a threshold of at least 15% in multiple national polls.

"It's pretty darn remarkable to be at this level in the polls for the amount of money we have spent," Johnson said. "We are taking advantage of social media and earned media. I think it speaks volumes to what we might do in office being fiscally conservative, being very frugal."

2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney, who has ruled out voting for presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Friday that he would take a look at Johnson's policies to see if he's someone he "could end up voting for."

Johnson said Saturday that others should join Romney in giving the Libertarian ticket a closer look.

"I think Mitt Romney hit it on the head. He said, 'Hey, I'm going to check out Gary Johnson and see what he's got to say,'" Johnson said. "I think that kind of scrutiny holds up under the light of day."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/11/politics/gary-johnson-fundraising-libertarian-party/index.html
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on July 25, 2016, 08:00:08 PM
CNN Finds Gary Johnson At 13%, Only Two Points From Debate Inclusion
Published on July 17, 2016  in 2016 Presidential Debates  by J. Wilson

The most important number in politics this year is 15%. That’s the threshold that the Commission on Presidential Debates has set for inclusion. It was set that high after Ross Perot’s candidacy to keep third parties out and it’s worked until this point. But no more. Gary Johnson has consistently polled at double digits coming as high as 12% in the latest CBS/NYT poll. Less than a week later CNN’s latest poll came out showing Gary Johnson at 13%. He’s now only two points from Presidential debate inclusion with more than two months to go until the first debate.

It’s been twenty four years since a third party candidate has been in the Presidential debates. The last time Americans saw a third voice on the stage was when Ross Perot was allowed into the debates in 1992. Perot didn’t make the stage when he ran again in 1996 and no other third party candidate has been seen since. The two party duopoly has marched on and the public has been lead to believe that they only have two choices. It’s been a successful ruse because of the universal visibility of the Presidential debates and the legitimacy they confer. If there’s only two people on the stage the public at large won’t bother to even look for another choice.
 
That’s why getting in to the Presidential debates is so critical. It’s the way that a candidate can show they have just as legitimate of a shot of being elected President as the other two. It’s the only way to reach the hundred million voters in the country who aren’t following the election closely enough to know there are more than two choices. Getting into the debates was a milestone for Perot’s campaign and a major contributor towards his eventual 19% of the vote.

Perot’s run was the best showing for a third party since Teddy Roosevelt’s run in 1912 wherein he captured 27% of the vote and won 88 electoral votes. Unfortunately, Roosevelt didn’t keep Woodrow Wilson under the 266 electoral college votes required at the time. In addition to 15%, the other important number this year is 270. Gary Johnson has to be able to win a state and keep the other two candidates under 270 electoral college votes in order to throw the election into the House. Then he can be elected by the Republican controlled body that despises Trump and Clinton.

Although, in order for any of that to happen, Gary Johnson first has to close the two point gap and get to 15%. Once he does that this all becomes possible and it becomes a true three way race. With more than two months to go until the first Presidential debate, it’s looking like it’s only a matter of time before that happens.

https://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-election/2016-presidential-debates/cnn-finds-gary-johnson-13-two-points-debate-inclusion/
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on July 25, 2016, 08:30:49 PM
All the dope has gone to his brain.  He doesn't provide a solution.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on July 25, 2016, 09:12:46 PM
Can somebody please tell this asshole to piss off??
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on July 25, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
If he's at 13 percent and rising, why would he "piss off"?  I'd like to see him in the debates.  Hope he gets there.  Could be the first step towards breaking up the two-party monopoly. 
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: polychronopolous on July 25, 2016, 09:23:43 PM
If he's at 13 percent and rising, why would he "piss off"?  I'd like to see him in the debates.  Hope he gets there.  Could be the first step towards breaking up the two-party monopoly.  

Get Jill stein on stage  as well and you might be onto something.

Otherwise it is a waste of time. No different than 92
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on July 25, 2016, 09:28:46 PM
Get Jill stein on stage  as well and you might be onto something.

Otherwise it is a waste of time. No different than 92

I'm all for it.  We're never going to break this stranglehold if we don't actually do something about it.  How can you not be disgusted that you repeatedly get stuck with two crappy choices?   
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2016, 09:29:02 PM
If he's at 13 percent and rising, why would he "piss off"?  I'd like to see him in the debates.  Hope he gets there.  Could be the first step towards breaking up the two-party monopoly.  

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Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on July 25, 2016, 10:44:16 PM
If he's at 13 percent and rising, why would he "piss off"?  I'd like to see him in the debates.  Hope he gets there.  Could be the first step towards breaking up the two-party monopoly. 

Agreed. I hope like hell he gets in there.

His message will resonate.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on August 17, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Libertarian Gary Johnson Optimistic He'll Debate Hillary, Trump
By Sandy Fitzgerald   |    Wednesday, 17 Aug 2016

Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson said Wednesday he believes there is a 50 percent chance he will end up on the presidential debate stage, thanks to analytics that are "off the charts."

"Right now we're doubling every three weeks and just the last couple of days, we raised $2 million online, which for us is unprecedented," said the former New Mexico governor, who appeared on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program with running mate Bill Weld.

"I mean, it really gives us a shot at winning this," he continued about the fundraising effort. "Neither of us would be doing this if we didn't think we had the opportunity to actually win the whole thing."

Johnson needs to achieve a 15 percent overall average in the nation's major polls to reach the debate stage. According to the FiveThirtyEight.com blog, Johnson is at nearly 10 percent support in an average of the most recent polls approved by the Commission on Presidential Debates, and at 8 percent in non-commission polls.

The polls that are counted for the September and October debate stages are from the the ABC News/Washington Post, CBS News/New York Times, CNN, Fox News, and NBC News/Wall Street Journal.

Johnson, meanwhile, had some difficulty answering a question from Bloomberg Politics editor Mark Halperin concerning federal agencies he'd close if elected.

Johnson quickly answered that he'd close the departments of education, commerce, and housing, but then said if "they were doing something of value, we would look be looking to continue those operations."

"It's easy to say you just eliminate those departments and also easy to say, 'Well, the good things would be kept,'" said Halperin. "But those departments all do a lot of stuff. You can't identify any specific things that they do?"

"You're asking three departments and I'm giving them to you," said Johnson. "Let's just take the assumption that they should be eliminated."

Weld, a former governor of Massachusetts, jumped in to say that both he and Johnson are familiar with starting budgets with zero balances.

"Every account starts the year at zero unless it justifies itself through performance the prior year," said Weld. "In Washington, as you well know, unless the program grows by 5 percent every year, they call that a cut. That's not how we file our budgets. We would file a balanced budget in year one."

There was also some disagreement between the two over handling extremist terrorism, with Johnson saying "we just want to be non-interventionists" who don't want to be involved in regime change, but Weld called for a "specialized task force" domestically for lone-wolf terrorists.

"You have to send in a special force if ISIS should become isolated for example, in south Yemen and you could deliver," Weld said. "I think we have to be prepared for that."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Gary-Johnson-Optimistic-Debate-Clinton/2016/08/17/id/743990/#ixzz4HcU2tOGx
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on August 17, 2016, 12:38:13 PM
Agreed. I hope like hell he gets in there.

His message will resonate.

Could you give a little more detail about that?
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on August 17, 2016, 12:47:13 PM
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Johnson is at nearly 10 percent support in an average of the most recent polls approved by the Commission on Presidential Debates, and at 8 percent in non-commission polls.

But this means his numbers are falling.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: TuHolmes on August 17, 2016, 01:49:03 PM
Could you give a little more detail about that?

Less government intervention. Repealing drug laws. Less nanny state stuff.

There are other things as well, but there's a lot to like about the Libertarian platform.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Las Vegas on August 17, 2016, 02:07:04 PM
Less government intervention. Repealing drug laws. Less nanny state stuff.

There are other things as well, but there's a lot to like about the Libertarian platform.

Well he'd better stir up a good story and stick to it, because he's falling in the polls.  I hadn't realized that until today.
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on October 03, 2016, 10:29:41 AM
Poll: Gary Johnson Could Win New Mexico
By Bill Hoffmann   |   Monday, 03 Oct 2016

Gary Johnson is riding high in New Mexico, according to a new poll — so much so that he could even best Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the November presidential election, a top numbers-cruncher says.

In a poll released Sunday by The Albuquerque Journal, the former New Mexico governor and Libertarian presidential candidate received 24 percent to Clinton's 35 percent, Trump's 31 percent and Green Party candidate Jill Stein's 2 percent.

Nate Silver of the election-polling blog FiveThirtyEight says the poll shows it is "plausible" Johnson could take the Land of Enchantment state.

"Because New Mexico hasn't been polled much, the survey had a fair amount of influence on our forecast, reducing Clinton's chances of winning New Mexico to 82 percent from 85 percent in the polls-only model," Silver said.

"Most of the time, Trump would be the beneficiary of a Clinton loss in New Mexico. But the model also assigns Johnson, the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee, an outside chance — 2 or 3 percent — of winning the state."

The Journal's poll of 501 likely New Mexico voters was Sept. 27-29 and has a margin of error of 4.4 percent.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gary-johnson-libertarian-win-new-mexico/2016/10/03/id/751395/#ixzz4M2nzRjWd
Title: Re: Former Gov. Gary Johnson Announces Entry Into 2016 Presidential Race
Post by: Dos Equis on November 02, 2016, 01:25:19 PM
Libertarian Gary Johnson Releases List of Potential Supreme Court Nominees
Brian Doherty
Nov. 1, 2016

Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson today released a list of six prospective Supreme Court nominees.

They are:

• Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Alex Kozinski;

• Libertarian legal scholar Randy Barnett of the Georgetown Center for the Constitution;

• D.C. Circuit Court Judge Janice Rogers Brown;

• Former Republican Congressman from California Tom Campbell, currently Dean of Chapman University School of Law;

• Miguel Estrada, a lawyer with the firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher;

• Law professor Jonathan Turley of George Washington University Law School.

Johnson had previously been talking up Turley and Campbell. He also spoke against specific issue litmus tests for Supreme Court picks, as Damon Root reported.

Some past Reason links on some of these choices:

• Interviews with Judge Kozinski from 2013 by Matt Welch and from 2006 by Shikha Dalmia.

• Interview with Randy Barnett by Damon Root from June 2016, and with Nick Gillespie from August.

• Damon Root praised Judge Brown in 2015. More praise for Brown's decisions from Root from May 2016.

• ReasonTV interview with Tom Campbell from 2009. Campbell wrote for Reason in 2008 in opposition to the state's Proposition 8, banning gay marriage.

A May 2009 Reason feature speculating on replacements for Justice Souter had votes from our distinguished panel of judge-pickers for Barnett (3), Kozinski (2), Brown (2), and Estrada (1).

http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/01/libertarian-gary-johnson-releases-list-o