Trump = Winning

[loco]

 

[Howard]

Not true at all.  If Trump got 80 million votes and Biden got 20 million, Biden still would have won.  The fix was in on this one.

You sound like some butthurt guy who struck out hitting on some hotty.

Seriously, dude there is no credible proof of any voter fraud.
You and 73 million others are Trump voters and wanted Fat Donny to win.
Only problem with that plan is, me and 80 million others voted for Uncle Joe.

Team Trump filed over 40 law suits and failed despite an army of poll watchers and TV cameras showing the ballot counts on live we streams.

Obviously, the USA has a large number of conservative values voters and won a few seats back in congress.
If they were smart, they'd be doing everything to win the 2 senate run off seats here in Ga.
Right now the race is +/1 % or basically tied.

[Humble Narcissist]

There is enormous evidence of fraud, you just don't want to see it.

[Howard]

There is enormous evidence of fraud, you just don't want to see it.

It looks like team Rudy doesn't want a judge to see it  hahahaha

Maybe if they filed a case in the jurisdiction of fantasy island

[OzmO]

Not true at all.  If Trump got 80 million votes and Biden got 20 million, Biden still would have won.  The fix was in on this one.

How so?  What evidence is there to support that?

[LurkerNoMore]

Not true at all.  If Trump got 80 million votes and Biden got 20 million, Biden still would have won.  The fix was in on this one.

So if someone were going to go through the trouble of fixing an election... and despite having the opportunity/technology/whatever to do so....  why would they not fix it so Mitch and Graham lost as well?  Not to mention some other Senate seats picked up and some House seats retained.

I'm sure there is a perfectly good explanation for this.     Heaven forbid the election is an accurate reflection that the nation thinks Trump was just a shitty President.

[Primemuscle]

For sure, even though I didn't agree some of things he did, he did seem to shake up Washington.   He wasn't playing around, and if you didn't do what he said he got rid of you, which is how it should be.  He just lost me after COVID and the protests.  I felt like he failed in his leadership there.  Had he handled that differently, he would still be president.

You are probably right about this. His making light of the pandemic and opening ignoring the fairly easy to accommodate advice of the experts by continuing to hold large events that jeopardized the health and even in some cases the lives of the people who supported him. I'm not as sure about how he handled the protests following the death of George Floyd. I am okay with peaceful protests and demonstrations, but I have no time for people looting, destroying and defacing property. There should be consequences for this type of illegal behavior. That enforcing the law became something of a "turf war" between state and federal governments is wrong on both sides of the fence.

Firing people who simply disagree with you on some issue but continue to do their job well is unwarranted. A lot, if not most of time Trump appeared/appears to fire people as a form of revenge. Confident people in leadership positions encourage constructive criticism. No person, not even a President is always right.

Trump is a rebel and that makes him a hero in some peoples eyes, particularly those who've lost faith in our government. Towards the end of his campaign and since election night, Trump's behavior has been atrocious and he's lost the support of a lot of people because of it. It is probably too late for him do redeem himself. There are somethings a person just can't take back.

[Primemuscle]

He could have done almost everything the same, but if he messaged it better and took a bi-partisan approach (even if superficial) he'd be re-elected.

His rhetoric and demeanor are tolerable when things are good, but when things are bad for folks, they're going to shut it down.

This is absolutely right.

[Primemuscle]

You sound like some butthurt guy who struck out hitting on some hotty.

Seriously, dude there is no credible proof of any voter fraud.
You and 73 million others are Trump voters and wanted Fat Donny to win.
Only problem with that plan is, me and 80 million others voted for Uncle Joe.

Team Trump filed over 40 law suits and failed despite an army of poll watchers and TV cameras showing the ballot counts on live we streams.

Obviously, the USA has a large number of conservative values voters and won a few seats back in congress.
If they were smart, they'd be doing everything to win the 2 senate run off seats here in Ga.
Right now the race is +/1 % or basically tied.

In the best of worlds our government would have absolute balance of power between the parties. But in order to get anything accomplished, this requires a certain degree of bipartisanship. Otherwise, we have ongoing stalemate. 

[Primemuscle]

There is enormous evidence of fraud, you just don't want to see it.

Show me any evidence of provable election fraud on a widespread basis and then we can discuss whether I see it or not.

[Primemuscle]

So if someone were going to go through the trouble of fixing an election... and despite having the opportunity/technology/whatever to do so....  why would they not fix it so Mitch and Graham lost as well?  Not to mention some other Senate seats picked up and some House seats retained.

I'm sure there is a perfectly good explanation for this.     Heaven forbid the election is an accurate reflection that the nation thinks Trump was just a shitty President.

Not the entire nation, just the voting majority.

[Agnostic007]

So if someone were going to go through the trouble of fixing an election... and despite having the opportunity/technology/whatever to do so....  why would they not fix it so Mitch and Graham lost as well?  Not to mention some other Senate seats picked up and some House seats retained.

I'm sure there is a perfectly good explanation for this.     Heaven forbid the election is an accurate reflection that the nation thinks Trump was just a shitty President.

The simple explanation is they wouldn't

Trump and his team of incompetent lawyers have had a couple dozen chances at this point to show their evidence in a court where bluster and showmanship take a back seat to evidence and they have failed at every turn. Only the densest of Trump supporters at this point still think Trump somehow won

Thats the facts, pure and simple 

[loco]

Apple is reportedly moving iPad production out of China for the first time ever because of Trump's trade war

The development comes as the outgoing administration of President Donald Trump encourages US firms to shift production out of China. During Trump's tenure, the United States has targeted made-in-China electronics for higher import tariffs, and restricted supplies of components produced using US technology to Chinese firms it deems a national security risk.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apple-moving-ipad-production-china-094852558.html

[tatoo]

You sound like some butthurt guy who struck out hitting on some hotty.

Seriously, dude there is no credible proof of any voter fraud.
You and 73 million others are Trump voters and wanted Fat Donny to win.
Only problem with that plan is, me and 80 million others voted for Uncle Joe.

Team Trump filed over 40 law suits and failed despite an army of poll watchers and TV cameras showing the ballot counts on live we streams.

Obviously, the USA has a large number of conservative values voters and won a few seats back in congress.
If they were smart, they'd be doing everything to win the 2 senate run off seats here in Ga.
Right now the race is +/1 % or basically tied.

basically tied in the polls? lmao, come on bro...... those seats are republican locks

[jude2]

basically tied in the polls? lmao, come on bro...... those seats are republican locks

Yeah but you know they have a way of harvesting the extra votes to win a election.

[loco]

How Democrats came up short in bid to expand House majority



Nearly three weeks after Election Day, a winner hasn't been declared in Iowa's 2nd Congressional District. That's a sign of the unexpected strength Republicans demonstrated in House races across the country, taking down at least 10 Democratic incumbents and dashing Speaker Nancy Pelosi's bold prediction of expanding her majority by double digits.

Instead, it appears Democrats made a serious miscalculation in assuming their antipathy toward Trump would fuel victories across the country. They failed to anticipate that Trump's supporters would show up, too, with even greater force than before in rural areas.

“It’s the Trump factor,” Jasper County Republican Chairman Thad Nearmyer said on his farm outside Monroe. “People were super excited to vote for the president.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-came-short-bid-expand-050714785.html

[Primemuscle]

How Democrats came up short in bid to expand House majority



Nearly three weeks after Election Day, a winner hasn't been declared in Iowa's 2nd Congressional District. That's a sign of the unexpected strength Republicans demonstrated in House races across the country, taking down at least 10 Democratic incumbents and dashing Speaker Nancy Pelosi's bold prediction of expanding her majority by double digits.

Instead, it appears Democrats made a serious miscalculation in assuming their antipathy toward Trump would fuel victories across the country. They failed to anticipate that Trump's supporters would show up, too, with even greater force than before in rural areas.

“It’s the Trump factor,” Jasper County Republican Chairman Thad Nearmyer said on his farm outside Monroe. “People were super excited to vote for the president.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-came-short-bid-expand-050714785.html

It is possible that staunch Republicans who could no longer bring themselves to support Trump, voted for the Republican candidates down ticket.

[Humble Narcissist]

It is possible that staunch Republicans who could no longer bring themselves to support Trump, voted for the Republican candidates down ticket.

Not that big of a difference, no.  There were probably more democrats who voted for Trump than republicans for Biden.

[Primemuscle]

Not that big of a difference, no.  There were probably more democrats who voted for Trump than republicans for Biden.

I can't possibly know this for sure, but I seriously doubt it. BTW, you can't know it either.

[Humble Narcissist]

I can't possibly know this for sure, but I seriously doubt it. BTW, you can't know it either.

No, but Trump had over a 90% approval rating from republicans.  Did Biden have that among democrats?

[Primemuscle]

No, but Trump had over a 90% approval rating from republicans.  Did Biden have that among democrats?

The approval rating to which you refer is on Trump's job performance. Biden doesn't begin his job as President until January 20, 2021. From that point on it will be possible to make Presidential performance comparisons between the two.

Currently, it is possible to compare the combined polling of Republicans and Democrats job approval ratings for Trump verse Obama. Trump's highest combined job approval rating is 49% as compared to Obama's at 67%.

Trump, Biden favorable ratings were both below 50% late last September, with Biden having a slight edge. Trump's was 41% approval and 57% disapproval. Biden's was 46 % approval and 50% disapproval.

Published in January 2017 Obama's approval rating among Democrats was 83% and 13% among Republicans. This of course has nothing to do with what the comparison will be between Trump and Biden four years from now.

Vice President's Pence had a favorability rating of 43% verses and unfavorability rating of 57%.

In July of 2009, Biden had a favorability rating of 50.5% and an unfavorability rating of 36%

[Agnostic007]

if ever a thread has jumped the shark this one is it

[LurkerNoMore]

The simple explanation is they wouldn't

Trump and his team of incompetent lawyers have had a couple dozen chances at this point to show their evidence in a court where bluster and showmanship take a back seat to evidence and they have failed at every turn. Only the densest of Trump supporters at this point still think Trump somehow won

Thats the facts, pure and simple

EXACTLY!  Trumpturds can't accept the fact that some of their party voted for other Republicans but not for Trump himself.

[Humble Narcissist]

EXACTLY!  Trumpturds can't accept the fact that some of their party voted for other Republicans but not for Trump himself.

And democrats believe all democrats voted for Biden AND  hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) voted for Biden only with no down ticket voting.  That sounds rational.

[Primemuscle]

Has President Trump violated the 14th Amendment ?

One thing he has done is file a ton of frivolous lawsuits....which get thrown out or he loses them. Many of these were filed in the last month or so.