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Obama apologists ready yourselves . . . :)
Saturday, June 21, 2008
Collection of Obama Flip-Flops
In no particular order...
Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
(Source: Washington Post)
Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.
(Source: Washington Post)
The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
(Source: Washington Post)
Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
(Source: Washington Post)
Decriminalization of Marijuana: While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
(Source: Washington Post)
Running for President or Vice President of the United States: On the January 22nd edition of “Meet the Press,” Tim Russert and Obama had the following exchange:Russert: “When we talked back in November of ‘04 after your election, I said, ‘There’s been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?’”Obama: “I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.”Russert: “So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?” Obama: “I will not.”
(Source: Audacity of Hyprocrisy)
Single-Payer Healthcare: On January 22nd, the Hillary Clinton Campaign releases a video that proves that Obama lied about his position on “single-payer healthcare.”The video compares statements Obama made during the January 21st Democratic debate with those he made to an AFL-CIO conference in June 2003 while campaigning for the Senate. Contradicting what Obama said at the debate, the old footage shows the senator saying, “I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare coverage. That’s what I’d like to see.”At the debate, Obama stated: “I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer (healthcare).”Single-payer healthcare is an euphemism for socialized medicine.
(Source: Audacity of Hypocrisy)
NAFTA: On February 29th, the Obama campaign told Canadian Television (CTV) that no message was passed to the Canadian government suggesting that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama’s senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.CTV didn’t stop there. They announced that their sources, at the highest levels of the Canadian government,” reconfirmed the story to CTV and one of their primary sources provided a timeline of the discussion to CTV.
(Source: Audacity of Hyprocisy)
7/3/08 UPDATE: Video Daily Double on the NAFTA Flip-Flop courtesy of Red State.
Donations from Lobbyists and Special Interest PACS: Obama say he doesn’t take money from DC lobbyists and special interest PACS. This is the type of double-talk “politics of the past” rhetoric Obama rails against.While his claim is technically true, what he does do is take money from state lobbyists and other big money contributors who have substantial lobbyist machines in DC, like law firms and corporations.In April 2007, the LA Times quoted the Campaign Finance Institute’s Stephen Weissman as pointing out that the distinction Obama makes on lobbyist money is meaningless: “He gets an asterisk that says he is trying to be different. … But overall, the same wealthy interests are funding his campaign as are funding other candidates, whether or not they are lobbyists.”The Capital Eye reported that “[a]ccording to the Center for Responsive Politics, 14 of Obama’s top 20 contributors employed lobbyists this year, spending a total of $16.2 million to influence the federal government in the first six months of 2007.”
(Source: Audacity of Hyprocisy)
Rev. Jeremiah Wright: Barack Obama repudiated what he called “inflammatory and appalling remarks” made by his Chicago pastor.Obama said he had not been present during the sermons in question.Obama told MSNBC, “Had I heard them in church I would have expressed that concern directly to Rev. Wright.”Please note, he says that he would have expressed concern, not repudiate, the words. (Source: Audacity of Hypocrisy) Previously Obama had said "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."
(Source: The Hill's Pundits Blog)
Jerusalem: "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.
But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes "Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties" as part of "an agreement that they both can live with."
(Source: Jerusalem Post)
Meeting with Foreign Leaders: Obama Now Claims That He Will Only Meet With Foreign Leaders At A Time Of His Choosing If It Will Advance U.S. Interests, But Previously Said He Would Meet With Rogue Leaders His First Year In Office Without Preconditions:
In His Remarks To The AIPAC Conference, Obama Claimed That He Would Only Meet With The "Appropriate Iranian Leaders At A Time And Place" Of His Choosing. Obama: "Contrary to the claims of some, I have no interest in sitting down with our adversaries just for the sake of talking. But as President of the United States, I would be willing to lead tough and principled diplomacy with the appropriate Iranian leaders at a time and place of my choosing - if, and only if - it can advance the interests of the United States." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The Annual AIPAC Policy Conference, Arlington, VA, 6/4/08)
But At A July 2007 Debate, Obama Said He Would Meet With Hostile Leaders During His First Year In Office. Question: "[W]ould you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"...Obama: "I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them - which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration - is ridiculous." (CNN/YouTube Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Charleston, SC, 7/23/07)
At A September 2007 Press Conference, Obama Confirmed That He Would Meet Specifically With Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Question: "Senator, you've said before that you'd meet with President Ahmadinejad ..." Obama: "Uh huh." Question: "Would you still meet with him today?" Obama: "Yeah, nothing's changed with respect to my belief that strong countries and strong presidents talk to their enemies and talk to their adversaries. I find many of President Ahmadinejad's statements odious and I've said that repeatedly. And I think that we have to recognize that there are a lot of rogue nations in the world that don't have American interests at heart. But what I also believe is that, as John F. Kennedy said, we should never negotiate out of fear but we should never fear to negotiate." (Sen. Barack Obama, Press Conference, New York, NY, 9/24/07)
(Source: RNC via Fox Business)
Legislation Labeling Iran's Revolutionary Guard A Terrorist Organization: Obama Has Been Inconsistent In His Views On Labeling Iran's Revolutionary Guard A Terrorist Organization. "Obama's campaign suddenly discovered that their man -despite having spent the last nine months campaigning on his opposition to Kyl-Lieberman - 'has consistently urged that Iran's Revolutionary Guard be labeled what it is: a terrorist organization.' Well, not that consistently. Senator Obama has been scrupulously careful not to call explicitly for designation of the IRGC as a terrorist organization. Now, however, with the Democratic nomination almost in hand, Obama feels comfortable telling a pro-Israel audience what it wants to hear."(Danielle Pletka, "Obama's Pander Pivot," Weekly Standard, 6/4/08)
"[T]he Audience At AIPAC Might Ask Why Senator Obama Has Pivoted From Opposition To 'Lieberman-Kyl' To Support For The IRGC Designation His Audience Demands. Is This Really Change They Can Believe In?" (Danielle Pletka, "Obama's Pander Pivot," Weekly Standard, 6/4/08)
"Which Barack Obama Will Be The Democratic Standard-Bearer: The One Who Vowed To 'Eliminate' The Iranian Nuclear Threat Two Days Ago, Or The One Who Opposed Designating The Revolutionary Guards A Terrorist Organization?" (Editorial, "Obama And Iran," The Washington Times, 6/6/08)
(Source: RNC via Fox Business)
Palestinian Elections In 2006: Obama Says That He Opposed Palestinian Elections In 2006. Obama: "There is no room at the negotiating table for terrorist organizations. That is why I opposed holding elections in 2006 with Hamas on the ballot. The Israelis and the Palestinian Authority warned us at the time against holding these elections, but this administration pressed ahead. And the result is a Gaza controlled by Hamas, with rockets raining down on Israel." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The Annual AIPAC Policy Conference, Arlington, VA, 6/4/08)
But During His 2006 Trip To The Middle East, Obama Met With Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas And Said The Election Represented An "Opportunity...To Consolidate Behind A Single Government." "Illinois Senator Barack Obama's journey to the Middle East took him to the West Bank Thursday for a meeting with the man elected to replace Yasser Arafat. ... For a time Thursday in the West Bank there was only the clatter of cameras as the newly elected president of the Palestinian authority, Mahmoud Abbas, met with Illinois Senator Barack Obama. At a meeting with Palestinian students Thursday, Obama said the U.S. will never recognize winning Hamas candidates unless the group renounces its fundamental mission to eliminate Israel, and Obama told ABC7 he delivered that message to the Palestinian president. 'Part of the opportunity here with this upcoming election is to consolidate behind a single government with a single authority that can then negotiate as a reliable partner with Israel,' said Obama." (Chuck Goudie, "Obama Meets With Arafat's Successor," ABC 7 News, http://obama.senate.gov, 1/12/06)
The Palestinian News Agency WAFA Reported That Obama Was Supportive Of The Palestinian Elections Being Held At Their Scheduled Time. "President Mahmoud Abbas met Thursday with the U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), in the Presidential HQ in Ramallah...President briefed the U.S. Senator about the latest developments in the Palestinian territories including the preparations for the legislative elections.... Abbas and Obama discussed the means of underpinning the American-Palestinian economic relations...Obama asserted the US supports and eager that the Palestinian legislative elections on its proposed time (January 25)." ("President Meets U.S. Senator And Armenian Delegation," WAFA, http://english.wafa.ps, 1/12/06)
(Source: RNC via Fox Business)
Iraq War: “At a time when American casualties are down, at a time when the violence is down, particularly affecting the Iraqi population, is that the right time to try and set time tables for withdrawing all American troops? I mean you talked about…the end of 2009,” Kroft remarked.
“Yeah, absolutely. I think now is precisely the time. I think that it is very important for us to send a clear signal to the Iraqis that we are not gonna be here permanently. We’re not gonna set up permanent bases. That they are going to have to resolve their differences and get their country functioning,” Obama said.
“And you pull out according to that time table, regardless of the situation? Even if there’s serious sectarian violence?” Kroft asked.
“No, I always reserve as commander in chief, the right to assess the situation,” Obama replied.
(Source: 60 Minutes via Dirty Harry's Place)
The Threat of Iran: Obama's comments in Oregon yesterday:
I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us....You know, Iran, they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world.
Today in Montana, Obama changed his tune:
Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the region and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust...
(Source: Weekly Standard)
North Korea: U.S. Democratic presidential frontrunner Senator Barack Obama has recently indicated he no longer opposes the removal of North Korea from a U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism. Obama in January 2005 came out against the removal of the Stalinist nation from the list until it gives an account of the kidnapping and death in the North of the Rev. Kim Dong-shik in 2000.
(Source: ROK Drop)
PATRIOT Act: "Giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activity is the right thing, and the Senate showed earlier this year that it can be done with the oversight of our judicial system so we do not jeopardize the rights of all Americans and the ideals America stands for. We should not let the PATRIOT Act expire at the end of this year, but instead extend the current law for three months so that we can come to an agreement on these critical issues in Congress."
(Source: Obama's Senate site)
On the Issues FactCheck: Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it.
(Source: On the Issues)
Coal: Obama, whose support for coal-to-liquid has been widely criticized by environmentalists, sent out a press release clarifying his position on liquid coal:
Senator Obama supports research into all technologies to help solve our climate change and energy dependence problems, including shifting our energy use to renewable fuels and investing in technology that could make coal a clean-burning source of energy…However, unless and until this technology is perfected, Senator Obama will not support the development of any coal-to-liquid fuels unless they emit at least 20% less life-cycle carbon than conventional fuels.
This “clarification” is an important step for the Obama campaign in trying to gain support from environmental organizations and voters. However, the LA Times notes that his position change on this issue is even more significant because it symbolizes “there’s a race to the top among the Democratic candidates for the strongest position on how to solve the climate crisis.”
(Source: Carbon Coalition)
PAYGO: Obama promised to "restore a law that was in place during the Clinton presidency—called Paygo—that prohibits money from leaving the treasury without some way of compensating for the lost revenue." but now Obama says he's not going to sacrifice his domestic priorities for deficit reduction. Universal health care, renewable energy, and all he rest won't be sacrificed on the altar of PAYGO.
(Source: Q and O)
Meeting with Ahmadinejad:"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama underscored his willingness to talk to leaders of countries like Iran that are considered U.S. adversaries but said that does not necessarily mean an audience with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad." (Caren Bohan, "Obama Says Won't Guarantee Ahmadinejad A Meeting," Reuters, 5/26/08)
"'There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know he's actually in power. He's not the most powerful person in Iran,' Obama told reporters while campaigning in New Mexico." (Caren Bohan, "Obama Says Won't Guarantee Ahmadinejad A Meeting," Reuters, 5/26/08)
But in July 2007, Obama said he would meet with the leaders of hostile foreign nations, including Iran:
At a July 2007 debate, Obama announced he would personally meet with leaders Of Iran, North Korea, Syria and other hostile nations "without precondition."
Question: "[W]ould you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"
Obama: "I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them - which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration - is ridiculous." (CNN/YouTube Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Charleston, SC, 7/23/07)
(Source: RNC via NewsMax)
Illegal Immigrants and Driver's Licenses: As a state senator in Illinois, Obama voted to require illegal immigrants to get a driver's license. The change? In the November 2007 CNN debate, he was asked what his stand was on that issue and he said, "I am not proposing that's what we do."
(Source: Nashua Telegraph)
http://massdiscussion.blogspot.com/2008/06/collection-of-obama-flip-flops.html
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Obama getting smacked around a bit this morning. Will a surprise appearance and speech by a sick Teddy Kennedy lessen the pain?
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Cool, so only about a quarter of McCain list of flip flops. Thanks BB. I had a hunch McCain flip flopped way more. Looks like the hunch was right.
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Cool, so only about a quarter of McCain list of flip flops. Thanks BB. I had a hunch McCain flip flopped way more. Looks like the hunch was right.
Sounds like BB is quietly trying to undermine McCain 2008.
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Cool, so only about a quarter of McCain list of flip flops. Thanks BB. I had a hunch McCain flip flopped way more. Looks like the hunch was right.
lol. So is this like your Republican vs. Democrat crime comparison? The guy has spent about 2 or 3 years in the Senate and the last year running for president. I wonder how many other junior senators have flipped so much in such a short period of time?
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Good work Beach. I didn't see this in your list so I hope I'm not re-posting.
This is from an Obama commerical.
(from Special Report with Brit Hume)
For His Welfare
Barack Obama is championing welfare reform in his new television ad titled "Dignity." The ad says that Obama "passed a law to move people from welfare to work — slashed the rolls by 80 percent."
But the television spot fails to mention that Obama resisted the very welfare reform bill that led to the reduction in the caseload.
Back in 1996, President Bill Clinton signed a federal reform bill in an effort to make welfare what he called "a second chance, not a way of life."
But then-Illinois state Senator Obama told the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper that year that Mr. Clinton's stance on welfare was "disturbing."
And on May 31, 1997 Obama said on the floor of the Illinois state Senate, "I probably would not have supported the federal legislation."
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Good work Beach. I didn't see this in your list so I hope I'm not re-posting.
This is from an Obama commerical.
(from Special Report with Brit Hume)
For His Welfare
Barack Obama is championing welfare reform in his new television ad titled "Dignity." The ad says that Obama "passed a law to move people from welfare to work — slashed the rolls by 80 percent."
But the television spot fails to mention that Obama resisted the very welfare reform bill that led to the reduction in the caseload.
Back in 1996, President Bill Clinton signed a federal reform bill in an effort to make welfare what he called "a second chance, not a way of life."
But then-Illinois state Senator Obama told the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper that year that Mr. Clinton's stance on welfare was "disturbing."
And on May 31, 1997 Obama said on the floor of the Illinois state Senate, "I probably would not have supported the federal legislation."
He's all over the place. This guy is bad news.
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He's all over the place. This guy is bad news.
would you agree that both man have changed positions a number of times, BB?
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still looks like McCain has way more flips that are recent. Which he had to do with the conservatives so pissed at him.
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still looks like McCain has way more flips that are recent. Which he had to do with the conservatives so pissed at him.
Look how many flip flops McCain has, look at the fact he's an adulterer.
This is a very weak man who will say or do anything to get into the white house.
A man without good character is not fit to be president.
Huckabee would have been a better choice.
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Look how many flip flops McCain has, look at the fact he's an adulterer.
This is a very weak man who will say or do anything to get into the white house.
A man without good character is not fit to be president.
Huckabee would have been a better choice.
I didn't realize how much of an emphasis you place on infidelity. I think it's an important issue too. Do you have the same opinions of the mayors of L.A., S.F., and Detroit? And Bill Clinton for that matter?
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I didn't realize how much of an emphasis you place on infidelity. I think it's an important issue too. Do you have the same opinions of the mayors of L.A., S.F., and Detroit? And Bill Clinton for that matter?
Heck yeah.
I had difficult time with Clinton's deal. Especially when i had to talk about it with my 7 year old son, (i think he was 7 or 8). He found out at school about it.
Think about it. Let's say you interviewed a person for a job that involved lots of responsibility and required a high level of integrity and you had a choice between 2 equally qualified people, but one of them was a known adulterer.
I wouldn't pick the adulterer.
Did it make Clinton less of a president? Yes. did it interfere with him being a president? YES. did he still do a good job? yes, IMO. But anyone that cheats is less of a man/person IMO. The job of presidency needs a leader with true integrity.
I might be living in a fantasy world. But I try to live by principles the best i can and i don't think it's asking too much to expect that from our representatives.
Would you have voted for him if you knew for a fact by his own admission he cheated on his wife?
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I thought Gavin Newsome was a pretty good guy with some fresh ideas.
Then he sleeps with his campaign managers wife. Has a Hotel strike and did this stupid sanctuary city crap.
He's a scum bag IMO.
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Heck yeah.
I had difficult time with Clinton's deal. Especially when i had to talk about it with my 7 year old son, (i think he was 7 or 8). He found out at school about it.
Think about it. Let's say you interviewed a person for a job that involved lots of responsibility and required a high level of integrity and you had a choice between 2 equally qualified people, but one of them was a known adulterer.
I wouldn't pick the adulterer.
Did it make Clinton less of a president? Yes. did it interfere with him being a president? YES. did he still do a good job? yes, IMO. But anyone that cheats is less of a man/person IMO. The job of presidency needs a leader with true integrity.
I might be living in a fantasy world. But I try to live by principles the best i can and i don't think it's asking too much to expect that from our representatives.
Would you have voted for him if you knew for a fact by his own admission he cheated on his wife?
You're preaching to the choir. :)
I do a lot of interviewing and that subject NEVER comes up (lol), but all else being equal, yes I would choose the guy who remained faithful to his wife.
Not a fantasy world at all. I don't think we should ever settle for less integrity. Too many people do.
I did vote for Clinton knowing that he probably cheated on his wife. The Flowers story was all over the place. Wasn't her press conference before the election?
I think some of us discussed this on here a long time ago, but I thought he lost his moral authority to be CIC after Lewinsky, because adultery is a crime in the military. They have taken rank for this. I didn't think he should have been impeached, but I thought he should have resigned.
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I thought Gavin Newsome was a pretty good guy with some fresh ideas.
Then he sleeps with his campaign managers wife. Has a Hotel strike and did this stupid sanctuary city crap.
He's a scum bag IMO.
Definitely a scumbag. If you (not you personally) know anything about the relationship between a politician and his or her campaign manager, you know how serious a breach of trust this was.
That said, I do believe in redemption. (It just happened in China with the Redeem Team. :)) I don't believe in holding mistakes over people's heads for decades. Mistakes happen. Lots of good people make mistakes. Lots of good men make mistakes. The distinction I usually draw as it relates to public office is those who serve are held to a higher standard. If they screw up while in office, they need to go.
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would you agree that both man have changed positions a number of times, BB?
beach?
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You're preaching to the choir. :)
I do a lot of interviewing and that subject NEVER comes up (lol), but all else being equal, yes I would choose the guy who remained faithful to his wife.
Not a fantasy world at all. I don't think we should ever settle for less integrity. Too many people do.
I did vote for Clinton knowing that he probably cheated on his wife. The Flowers story was all over the place. Wasn't her press conference before the election?
I think some of us discussed this on here a long time ago, but I thought he lost his moral authority to be CIC after Lewinsky, because adultery is a crime in the military. They have taken rank for this. I didn't think he should have been impeached, but I thought he should have resigned.
Resigning would have been the honorable thing to do, for sure.
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Definitely a scumbag. If you (not you personally) know anything about the relationship between a politician and his or her campaign manager, you know how serious a breach of trust this was.
That said, I do believe in redemption. (It just happened in China with the Redeem Team. :)) I don't believe in holding mistakes over people's heads for decades. Mistakes happen. Lots of good people make mistakes. Lots of good men make mistakes. The distinction I usually draw as it relates to public office is those who serve are held to a higher standard. If they screw up while in office, they need to go.
I agree somewhat with your point about redemption. I'm not saying McCain is a womanizer with multiple affairs. Clinton was. The question is, deep down, does McCain see it as a mistake or does he see his actions justified?
Combine this with his many flip flops and it's hard for me to want to vote for him.
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I agree somewhat with your point about redemption. I'm not saying McCain is a womanizer with multiple affairs. Clinton was. The question is, deep down, does McCain see it as a mistake or does he see his actions justified?
Combine this with his many flip flops and it's hard for me to want to vote for him.
The only person who knows whether McCain realizes and takes responsibility for his mistakes is McCain. I have no reason to doubt what he said about this:
"MCCAIN: I take full responsibility for the break-up of my first marriage. And I'm very grateful for the fact that Carol and I have a good relationship."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/20/cp.01.html
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The only person who knows whether McCain realizes and takes responsibility for his mistakes is McCain. I have no reason to doubt what he said about this:
"MCCAIN: I take full responsibility for the break-up of my first marriage. And I'm very grateful for the fact that Carol and I have a good relationship."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/20/cp.01.html
I've read that. That's what he said. My question is what he really feels about it.
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I've read that. That's what he said. My question is what he really feels about it.
How do you determine what he really feels?
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How do you determine what he really feels?
You don't.
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Remember when Obama was asked why he wanted to be president of the United States by a 7-year old?
;D
(http://wizbangblog.com/images/2005/chappelle_drugie.jpg)
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Baracks redeeming trait: not a Republican. Thats all I need
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Baracks redeeming trait: not a Republican. Thats all I need
welcome to the politics board, philly.
what was your state like during that Hilary/Obama showdown?
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You don't.
Then how do you answer your (rhetorical?) question?
My question is what he really feels about it.