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Title: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 19, 2015, 08:15:12 PM
Looks like 3 major holes in the war stories of Bill OReilly.  

First, you hear multiple statements about his 3 near-death experiences in these warzones.
Then you see multiple videos/facts debunking his claims, down to "No US reporters were there" and "This incident was 1000 miles away, a year after the war ended".  

They were right to bounce Brian Williams after lying about the helicopter incident.  If Bill-O lied about 1, or 2, or 3 incidents...  ???

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war

(Go ahead and shit on the source if you're an idiot, if you have a brain, click the link and look at the evidence.  They've been building a case against him for 10 days and have done their research... you see him on FOX claiming things that may not have happened)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 19, 2015, 08:42:01 PM
Well, we know bill-O was 1000 miles away from a warzone he claimed to be in.   That's no longer up for debate, the video proves he was 1000 miles away from the location he's been saying. 

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/02/bill-oreilly-mother-jones-report-garbage-202825.html

Who knows if this will end up being nothing, or end up being a series of exaggerations like those from B-Will.  Wouldn't surprise me if many of those in the anchor chair fudged their war experience for credibility.  The "right" discovered 11 major Williams lies very quickly.  If Bill-O told truth, he can quickly show us 3 pieces of video to shut up the doubters. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 19, 2015, 09:20:22 PM
This is getting ugly very fast.  OReilly calling Corn names.  He's pissed.  Good.  I hope he sues the pants off of MJ/Corn if they are lying. 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/bill-oreilly-is-super-mad-at-mother-jones-heres-why/

Bill-O reports widespread violence and killings in the streets, but no other news outlet nor any official accounts of these killings exit.   The Falklands are the big point - OReilly now saying "I NEVER SAID I WAS IN THE FALKLANDS" but we hear him saying it over and over throughout the years.

Bill-O is my favorite voice on FOX news.  His new position of "I never said I was in the falklands..." may be the key issue.

OReilly can post pics/video of him in these places and SMASH the libs for this story.  Why he's calling names instead of simply posting pics?   I mean, he's a journalist, and these are 3 warzones he has claimed he's been in.  SURELY they are among his career highlights.  Post the video and pwn mother jones to the ground.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Primemuscle on February 19, 2015, 09:24:27 PM
Looks like 3 major holes in the war stories of Bill OReilly.  

First, you hear multiple statements about his 3 near-death experiences in these warzones.
Then you see multiple videos/facts debunking his claims, down to "No US reporters were there" and "This incident was 1000 miles away, a year after the war ended".  

They were right to bounce Brian Williams after lying about the helicopter incident.  If Bill-O lied about 1, or 2, or 3 incidents...  ???

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war

(Go ahead and shit on the source if you're an idiot, if you have a brain, click the link and look at the evidence.  They've been building a case against him for 10 days and have done their research... you see him on FOX claiming things that may not have happened)

It never pays to lie.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 19, 2015, 11:40:42 PM
Hahaha. Poor 240. He tries so hard. Lol
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2015, 02:23:21 AM
Hahaha. Poor 240. He tries so hard. Lol

hey, i'm sure there's nothing to this story.  Still, Oreilly attacking the messenger was weird.  just post 3 videos/pics of him in these 3 zones and pwn mother jones into the ground. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2015, 03:54:26 AM
It never pays to lie.

For obama it sure does
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: BayGBM on February 20, 2015, 04:42:08 AM
Looks like 3 major holes in the war stories of Bill OReilly.  

First, you hear multiple statements about his 3 near-death experiences in these warzones.
Then you see multiple videos/facts debunking his claims, down to "No US reporters were there" and "This incident was 1000 miles away, a year after the war ended".  

They were right to bounce Brian Williams after lying about the helicopter incident.  If Bill-O lied about 1, or 2, or 3 incidents...  ???

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war

(Go ahead and shit on the source if you're an idiot, if you have a brain, click the link and look at the evidence.  They've been building a case against him for 10 days and have done their research... you see him on FOX claiming things that may not have happened)

The difference is Brian Williams used to have some credibility with the public.  Bill O never did... so there is nothing to lose.  Didn't he sexually harass and practically rape one of his staffers several years ago?  I remember that it was all very public.  He and the network cut her a check and moved on.  Their audience didn't care in the slightest.  Again, you can't lose credibility if you never had it to begin with.  Limbaugh and his drug addiction?  Same thing.  ::)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2015, 04:55:40 AM
The difference is Brian Williams used to have some credibility with the public.  Bill O never did... so there is nothing to lose.  Didn't he sexually harass and practically rape one of his staffers several years ago?  I remember that it was all very public.  He and the network cut her a check and moved on.  Their audience didn't care in the slightest.  Again, you can't lose credibility if you never had it to begin with.  Limbaugh and his drug addiction?  Same thing.  ::)

Bill Clinton and Juanita Broderick ring a bell ?   
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2015, 05:38:21 AM
the fox news fans don't care they are use to being spoon feed lies  daily  :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: OzmO on February 20, 2015, 06:27:40 AM
On average Fox is 60% false anyway. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2015, 07:13:36 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D poor billy


"When hard news people deceive their viewers and readers to advance a political agenda, that's when the nation gets hurt," Fox News Sith lord Bill O'Reilly complained last week, after Brian Williams' high-profile face-plant. But a new report suggests O'Reilly's been similarly flogging a bogus story of military bravado for years.

Since at least 2001, O'Reilly has bragged about "having survived a combat situation in Argentina during the Falklands war" in 1982. But Mother Jones editors David Corn and Daniel Schulman report that Bill's claims aren't supported by any facts, and are disputed by his ex-coworkers.

It started simply, with a one-line mention in a memoir that O'Reilly had worked "on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands." But by the time the Boston Marathon bombing happened in 2013, he was regaling Fox viewers with visceral details of being in the shit:


I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important.

The problem with that account, Corn and Schulman say, is O'Reilly had just managed to get into Buenos Aires before the quick war between Argentina and Great Britain ended. That didn't leave him much time to get downrange where the action was, across 1,200 miles of ocean. And it didn't make much sense to O'Reilly's CBS colleagues at the time:


American reporters were not on the ground in this distant war zone. "Nobody got to the war zone during the Falklands war," Susan Zirinsky, a longtime CBS News producer who helped manage the network's coverage of the war from Buenos Aires, tells Mother Jones. She does not remember what O'Reilly did during his time in Argentina. But she notes that the military junta kept US reporters from reaching the islands: "You weren't allowed on by the Argentinians. No CBS person got there."

That's how Bob Schieffer, who was CBS News' lead correspondent covering the Falklands war, recalls it: "Nobody from CBS got to the Falklands. I came close. We'd been trying to get somebody down there. It was impossible." He notes that NBC News reporter Robin Lloyd was the only American network correspondent to reach the islands. "I remember because I got my butt scooped on that," Schieffer says. "He got out there and we were all trying to get there." (Lloyd tells Mother Jones that he managed to convince the Argentine military to let him visit Port Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, but he spent only a day there—and this was weeks before the British forces arrived and the fighting began.)

Schieffer adds, "For us, you were a thousand miles from where the fighting was. So we had some great meals."

The Mother Jones editors note that O'Reilly did witness a street protest that turned violent in the streets of the Argentine capital, but that he split the scene after losing out to Schieffer for the marquee coverage. "I got the hell out of Argentina fast, landed in Miami, and raised a major ruckus at the CBS offices there," O'Reilly wrote in his memoir.

The Miami area also happens to be where O'Reilly taught history in what he's called "a relatively poor school" in "the shabby, tough Florida town of Opa-Locka." That school was Monsignor Edward Pace High, a private prep that's been recognized as one of the top 50 Catholic high schools in the United States.

Update:



Bill speaks to Dylan Byers; emphasis added:


Bill O'Reilly says a new Mother Jones report alleging that the Fox News host made false claims about his Falklands War experience is "a piece of garbage" and that its principal author, David Corn, is "a liar."

In a telephone interview with the On Media blog, O'Reilly called Corn a "despicable guttersnipe" who has been trying to take him down "for years."

"It's a hit piece," O'Reilly said. "Everything I said about what I reported in South and Central America is true. Everything."

...In the interview, O'Reilly said that he never claimed to have been on the Falkland Islands.

"I was not on the Falkland Islands and I never said I was. I was in Buenos Aires... In Buenos Aires we were in a combat situation after the Argentines surrendered."

I'm just gonna leave this screenshot from the above post... here:


Report: Bill O'Reilly Has Been Telling Lies About War Exploits, Too

Meanwhile, Mother Jones has added a video supercut of O'Reilly's Falklands claims; we've swapped it in above. Enjoy.


http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_14244451157808&key=b716156ab5ecd7182fdbf9e72d749dcb&libId=af1ff68e-f911-49b8-9ced-9503ba729f5e&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F1017246272&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Ffortressamerica.gawker.com%2Freport-bill-oreilly-has-been-telling-lies-about-war-ex-1686875692%3Frev%3D1424394429913&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F%3Fcom%3Dforum%26id%3D1017&title=Bill%20O'Reilly's%20war%20lies%20-%20a%20compilation%20(w%2F%20BillO%20response)%20-%20Democratic%20Underground&txt=http%3A%2F%2Ffortressamerica.gawker.com%2Freport-bill-oreilly-has-been-telling-lies-about-war-ex-1686875692%3Frev%3D1424394429913
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2015, 08:53:49 AM
OReilly should stop attacking the messenger, and start attacking the message.

He could publish video proving his claims, and VOILA, mother jones it disgraced. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2015, 09:18:04 AM
OReilly should stop attacking the messenger, and start attacking the message.

He could publish video proving his claims, and VOILA, mother jones it disgraced. 

only one problem he can't because they're right lol
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 20, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
No one ever took O'Reilly seriously, even O' Reilly.  O'Reilly is a performer and professional screamer Williams is also nothing but a talking head but he attempted to create the imagine he was a serious journalist.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2015, 11:00:02 AM
No one ever took O'Reilly seriously, even O' Reilly.  O'Reilly is a performer and professional screamer Williams is also nothing but a talking head but he attempted to create the imagine he was a serious journalist.

well, oreilly took oreilly seriously.   Did you hear him lecturing that dude because he's been in 3 warzones and "oh, i didn't see him there when i was reporting from 3 warzones..."  LOL

Bill-O's claims were WAY bigger than "we took some rifle and RPG fire".   Bill-O claimed to be dragging wounded cameramen to safety and staring down armed bad guys who were feet away LOL. 

OReilly is either one of the most experienced war correspendents currently on tv, from his claims...
Or, like Williams, he's a lying sack of shit lol.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2015, 11:20:26 AM
USA Today has the story now.

For example, In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O'Reilly wrote, "You know that I am not easily shocked. I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands."

Trouble is, no U.S. reporters got to the remote islands where the fighting took place. Only about 30 British journalists, accredited by the British government, made it there. Most of the journalists dispatched to cover the bizarre conflict did so from the safe confines of Buenos Aires, 1,200 miles away.

OReilly takes the time to call Corn a "disgusting piece of garbage" but doesn't take the time to explain why he considered being 1200 miles away in Buenos Aires to be part of the warzone.  No US reporters were allowed to be where OReilly claimed he was, and it's a claim he made over and over.

Bill-O trying like crazy now, to change things... "When you cover a war, you feel like you are in the war zone when you're covering protests too..."

bill-o is my favorite voice on fox, and I don't think he is going anywhere.  


Now THE BLAZE is pointing out his exact words, now proven to be not true:

I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete,” O’Reilly said, for instance, during a 2013 segment on his program.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/19/oreilly-blasts-disgusting-report-claiming-he-misled-viewers-about-war-reporting-bunch-of-lies/

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
On average Fox is 60% false anyway. 

LMAO....hahaha. Good one ;D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2015, 11:32:25 AM
More left wing nonsense
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 20, 2015, 11:37:16 AM
well, oreilly took oreilly seriously.   Did you hear him lecturing that dude because he's been in 3 warzones and "oh, i didn't see him there when i was reporting from 3 warzones..."  LOL

Bill-O's claims were WAY bigger than "we took some rifle and RPG fire".   Bill-O claimed to be dragging wounded cameramen to safety and staring down armed bad guys who were feet away LOL. 

OReilly is either one of the most experienced war correspendents currently on tv, from his claims...
Or, like Williams, he's a lying sack of shit lol.

O'Reilly is a joke that no one takes seriously.  He's an entertainer on an openly conservative news network. To reveal that O'Reilly is full of shit isn't much of a scandal.  While I don't care what Williams did the outrage stems in part from the fact he is newscaster for NBC nightly news.  Not only did he lie, he also soiled the reputation of what many consider to a premiere news program with a long and celebrated tradition of journalistic integrity.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2015, 11:45:30 AM
O'Reilly is a joke that no one takes seriously.  He's an entertainer on an openly conservative news network. To reveal that O'Reilly is full of shit isn't much of a scandal.  While I don't care what Williams did the outrage stems in part from the fact he is newscaster for NBC nightly news.  Not only did he lie, he also soiled the reputation of what many consider to a premiere news program with a long and celebrated tradition of journalistic integrity.

Bill-O is really one of the biggest faces of FOX news, just like B-Will was on NBC news.

B-Will did raps on the Tonight Show, lots of oddball shit - he was an entertainer too, in addition to being a news reader.

IMO, you're being very partisan here... they're both lying pieces of shit that exaggerated wartime experience in order to move up in the media world.  they both used it for credibility.  OReilly used it to shout down some lib journalists who hadn't been in war zones, like he had. 

Many people DO take Bill-O seriously.  Many people DO look to him for truth in a slanted world.  And if the right's defense of oreilly lying is simply "oh, he's just an entertainer" who lies abouot something as huge as a warzone... well, that'll hurt the right more than oreilly ever could.  Just admit he's a shitbird, if he lied, and leave it at that.  Changing the standards is bad, bad form.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2015, 11:48:25 AM
More left wing nonsense

dude!  bro!  I thouoght you'd be the first to abandon that left/right bullshit and call orielly what he is - just as bad as brian williams.  toss in the fact he rubbed it in the face of some liberal reporters who weren't in the warzone.  "I didn't see you in the warzone where I was... where were you?" he once said. 

B-will, the bag of shite, was actually in a warzone, but the bullets went at another copter and he took credit.  boom, get outta here.
OReilly... he was in another country, chilling at a hotel, 1200 miles from the warzone, and rubbed it in the face of another media person saying "I didn't see YOU there..."
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2015, 11:49:07 AM
O'Reilly is a joke that no one takes seriously.  He's an entertainer on an openly conservative news network. To reveal that O'Reilly is full of shit isn't much of a scandal.  While I don't care what Williams did the outrage stems in part from the fact he is newscaster for NBC nightly news.  Not only did he lie, he also soiled the reputation of what many consider to a premiere news program with a long and celebrated tradition of journalistic integrity.

your right he is a joke but his loyal fans take him serious heck bet there are some on here but they will never admitt it ;D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 20, 2015, 11:52:13 AM
Bill-O is really one of the biggest faces of FOX news, just like B-Will was on NBC news.

B-Will did raps on the Tonight Show, lots of oddball shit - he was an entertainer too, in addition to being a news reader.

IMO, you're being very partisan here... they're both lying pieces of shit that exaggerated wartime experience in order to move up in the media world.  they both used it for credibility.  OReilly used it to shout down some lib journalists who hadn't been in war zones, like he had.  

Many people DO take Bill-O seriously.  Many people DO look to him for truth in a slanted world.  And if the right's defense of oreilly lying is simply "oh, he's just an entertainer" who lies abouot something as huge as a warzone... well, that'll hurt the right more than oreilly ever could.  Just admit he's a shitbird, if he lied, and leave it at that.  Changing the standards is bad, bad form.

 

I'm not being partisan at all.  I don't care about either nor do I watch either.  What you are failing to do is understand how NBC Nightly News is viewed in comparison to the O'Reilly Factor.   Nightly news has been on the air for decades and is considered a long standing institution within the realm of television news journalism.  O'Reilly Factor, not so much.

your right he is a joke but his loyal fans take him serious heck bet there are some on here but they will never admitt it ;D

I hate to break it to them but O'Reilly is as much an unbiased journalist as Jon Stewart.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 20, 2015, 12:00:06 PM
Nightly News has been on the air for forty-five years.  It's a brand with a legacy that will continue after Williams. Whether true or not, it's attempted to project an air of integrity that Williams threatened by lying.  The O'Reilly Factor consists of one screaming Irishman and will die with O'Reilly.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: chadstallion on February 21, 2015, 11:08:08 AM
Loofah, anyone?
money will exchange hands again.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2015, 12:40:57 AM
 ESPN radio interviewed O'Reilly on his recently released biography.

O'Reilly in his book made it sound like he competed in college varsity sports, but it was actually club sports. When the ESPN hosts Dan LeBatard and Jon "Stugotz" Weiner called him out on his athletic exaggeration, O'Reilly hung up on them.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 22, 2015, 05:37:15 AM
ESPN radio interviewed O'Reilly on his recently released biography.

O'Reilly in his book made it sound like he competed in college varsity sports, but it was actually club sports. When the ESPN hosts Dan LeBatard and Jon "Stugotz" Weiner called him out on his athletic exaggeration, O'Reilly hung up on them.

Youre missing the point as usual.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 22, 2015, 05:45:12 AM
MORAL  OF THE STORY IS IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE DON'T THROW STONES  :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 22, 2015, 05:46:45 AM
MORAL  OF THE STORY IS IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE DON'T THROW STONES  :D

I think that's a fairly accurate assessment but then again O'Reilly wouldn't have a career if he did that.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2015, 09:01:06 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/bill-oreilly-fox-news-war-reporting-115416.html?cmpid=sf

Even though Bill-O claimed to be in the warzone - and now admits he was not...
Even though Bill-O described this brilliant staredown with armed bad guy, dragging his wounded cameraman to safety - never happened...

FOX is standing by Bill OReilly, backing him and keeping him. 

Now we can criticize the liberal media for abandoning their war exaggerator, while FOX stood by their man :)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 23, 2015, 11:43:59 AM
He reported that he was in the capital when the Argentinians rose up against the gov....he was caught in the riot and reported it. He said as much on Fox....whats your problem.

240 says it never happend and cited a story......well follow the link and you get this. Nice try 240.... ::)

Bill has his side and this guy has his.....CBS has documents backing Bill...atleast based on what he released on Friday. Non story by a lib douchbag....

Eric Engberg, a former CBS News correspondent who covered the aftermath of the Falklands conflict from Buenos Aires, said that O’Reilly’s story about covering a protest in the Argentine capital wasn’t accurate, adding that it was a “relatively tame riot” after Argentina surrendered to the British on the islands.

“It was an ‘expense account zone,’” Engberg wrote.

O’Reilly responded to the post on Sunday, reading from a contemporary New York Times dispatch that recounted police using tear gas to disperse “thousands of angry Argentines who had massed in front of the presidential palace.” Engberg said that the Fox News host’s story about his cameraman getting run down and “bleeding from the ear” could have happened only during that event.

“I don’t think he was there. I don’t think he knows what happened,” O’Reilly said of Engberg, adding that he had requested the video of the protest from CBS News.


Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 23, 2015, 11:44:55 AM
He reported that he was in the capital when the Argentinians rose up against the gov....he was caught in the riot and reported it. He said as much on Fox....whats your problem.

240 says it never happend and cited a story......well follow the link and you get this. Nice try 240.... ::)

Bill has his side and this guy has his.....CBS has documents backing Bill...atleast based on what he released on Friday. Non story by a lib douchbag....

Eric Engberg, a former CBS News correspondent who covered the aftermath of the Falklands conflict from Buenos Aires, said that O’Reilly’s story about covering a protest in the Argentine capital wasn’t accurate, adding that it was a “relatively tame riot” after Argentina surrendered to the British on the islands.

“It was an ‘expense account zone,’” Engberg wrote.

O’Reilly responded to the post on Sunday, reading from a contemporary New York Times dispatch that recounted police using tear gas to disperse “thousands of angry Argentines who had massed in front of the presidential palace.” Engberg said that the Fox News host’s story about his cameraman getting run down and “bleeding from the ear” could have happened only during that event.

“I don’t think he was there. I don’t think he knows what happened,” O’Reilly said of Engberg, adding that he had requested the video of the protest from CBS News.




Wait.  You mean 240 was embellishing?  No way. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2015, 10:03:53 PM
Billo: "Many were killed during the demonstration".   Um, no.


Fox News host Bill O'Reilly threatened a New York Times reporter on Monday night, promising to come after the reporter "with everything I have" if he felt that any of the reporter's coverage about his Falklands war controversy was inappropriate.

"Mr. O’Reilly’s efforts to refute the claims by Mother Jones and some former CBS News colleagues occurred both on the air and off on Monday," the Times' Emily Steel and Ravi Somaiya reported. "During a phone conversation, he told a reporter for The New York Times that there would be repercussions if he felt any of the reporter’s coverage was inappropriate. 'I am coming after you with everything I have,' Mr. O’Reilly said. 'You can take it as a threat.'”

Steel confirmed on Twitter that she was the reporter in question. Reached by email late Monday night, she declined to comment further, noting that "the story speaks for itself." A Fox News spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment from O'Reilly.

The Times article was published just hours after O'Reilly sought to put an end to the controversy surrounding claims he made about his experiences during the Falklands War in 1982. "I want to stop this now,” he said after a segment about the controversy. “I hope we can stop it. I really do.”

Mother Jones journalists David Corn and Daniel Schulman have alleged that O'Reilly lied about being present in a "war zone" and "combat situation" during the Falklands War, and that he even suggested he had gone to the Falkland Islands. O'Reilly was present at a violent demonstration in Buenos Aires during which police fired into the crowd. He says he never claimed to have been in the Falkland Islands and has defended his characterization of the protest as a "combat zone."

Corn and Schulman also noted that O'Reilly falsely claimed that "many were killed" during the demonstration. On Monday night's broadcast, O'Reilly argued that a casuality count was impossible to determine.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 24, 2015, 01:51:04 AM
Wait.  You mean 240 was embellishing?  No way. 

As usual.  He accepts all of O'Reilly's critics accusations at face value.   Brian Williams admited he was lying.  He also ignores the vast difference between how the O'Reilly Factor and The Nightly News are viewed In terms of legitimacy and reputation. He falsely assumes some type of equivalency that isnt there.  In short, 240 is a bonehead
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 05:03:21 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ex-nbc-bureau-chief-backs-up-oreillys-account-of-falklands-war-riot



LIBFAGS OWNED! 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 05:06:59 AM

Ex-NBC Bureau Chief Backs Up O’Reilly’s Account of Falklands War Riot
by Josh Feldman | 8:50 pm, February 23rd, 2015 video
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Two former CBS reporters have strongly disputed Bill O’Reilly‘s accounts of what happened one night when they covered a riot in Buenos Aires, but on The Factor tonight, O’Reilly brought on a former NBC News bureau chief who backed up his story.

Don Browne was the NBC News Miami bureau chief at the time, and he oversaw the network’s Falklands coverage. And Browne told O’Reilly his account was accurate. As opposed to some of the other accounts, which have to some extent downplayed the danger, Browne said the situation “got progressively more intense” and there were demonstrations in Buenos Aires every day.

RELATED: Dan Rather in 1982 CBS Report: TV Crew Members ‘Knocked to the Ground’ in Riots Where O’Reilly Was

Both O’Reilly and Browne recalled a “very intense situation where people got hurt” and how “this was an extremely violent and volatile situation” where reporters were in danger.

O’Reilly also spoke with Mediaite’s own Joe Concha, who wrote a column this week questioning the motivations of O’Reilly’s attackers. Concha told O’Reilly that Mother Jones is in the business of throwing red meat to progressives, and beyond that, the story isn’t making much headway anyway.

Watch the video below, via Fox News:
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 05:30:20 AM
so when there were demonstrations is the u.s. over vietnam was that also the war zone  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 06:56:37 AM
 :D :D

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Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 07:50:37 AM
he attended demonstrations.  He was never "IN THE WAR ZONE", a phrase he used to punk other reporters who weren't as brave as him.  He stretched it, and now he's redefining what he meant all along.  

He was IN A DANGEROUS DEMONSTRATION ZONE.   THe war zone was 1200 miles away.  That's what it comes down to - to believe Bill OReilly, you have to redefine warzones to include any rough demonstrations held in different countries now.  Therefore any riot in NYC that gets rowdy, protesting the Iraq war, is now definieable as a WAR ZONE of the war in Iraq.

We understand that, right?   War zones now include demonstrations, 1200 miles away from the actual war.  Correct?  
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: dario73 on February 24, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
O'Reilly has been vindicated.

Wow.

Libtard thread backfire.

Sorry retards. Libtards will continue to be the undisputed champions of falsehood.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 11:01:46 AM
O'Reilly has been vindicated.

No, he has not lol.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 24, 2015, 11:48:01 AM
O'Reilly has been vindicated.

Wow.

Libtard thread backfire.

Sorry retards. Libtards will continue to be the undisputed champions of falsehood.

How stupid can you be?  Oh wait... this is YOU in question so the answer is pretty fucking stupid.

Nice try though but your spin cycle failed.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 12:07:09 PM
How stupid can you be?  Oh wait... this is YOU in question so the answer is pretty fucking stupid.

Nice try though but your spin cycle failed.

People that support oreilly will say he's been vindicated by a video. 

The video doesn't show him in the warzone he claimed to be in.  It's a tough area, sure, but he claimed to be in the war zone in falklands, and he was never there.  He was in a rough protest, 1200 miles away. 

it's like a reporter saying he was part of the D-Day war zone effort because he covered a bread line fight in NYC as the ships full of troops headed to Europe... and hey, since he has proof he was at this NYC riot, he's "vindicated" LOL.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 12:09:05 PM
How stupid can you be?  Oh wait... this is YOU in question so the answer is pretty fucking stupid.

Nice try though but your spin cycle failed.

he's your typ.far right religious nut job lol
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 12:26:18 PM
The video that CBS released was footagge FROM BUENOS AIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!  

there was never any doubt that he was in buenos aires, that's well-known.

SOMEHOW, bill oreilly is claiming this footage backs up his claim that he was "in a combat situation" and "in a war zone…in the Falklands."

NO NO NO... Oreilly covered a violent protest in Buenos Aires.  And yes, CBS' tape proves it.  But this tape doesn't prove he was ever "in a war zone in the falklands" and covering a "combat situation".

O'Reilly has been vindicated.

You don't believe that.  

Also, Bill-O claimed there were fatalities.  There were none reported by the buenos aires govt nor any other media outlets that day. One dude was hit in the leg with warning gunfire.  OReilly still stand by the fatalities claims... he's the only one. 

On Sunday, CNN reported that seven of O'Reilly's former CBS colleagues disputed his claim that Argentine soldiers had fired live rounds at civilians.   Rubber bullets, and yeah, there's video of that too.


BOTTOM LINE - Bill-O releases video of him covering a rough protest in place A, to back up his claims that he was in a deadly combat situation in place B... and some people actually believe it. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
This is stupid. 

It also sounds like an attempt by liberals to detract attention away from Brian Williams, which really isn't necessary, because the MSM will help bury his story, assuming they haven't already done so. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 12:39:18 PM
This is stupid. 

It also sounds like an attempt by liberals to detract attention away from Brian Williams, which really isn't necessary, because the MSM will help bury his story, assuming they haven't already done so. 

Brian williams deserved to be fired, not suspended for 6 months.

He claimed he took RPG fire, and he did not.

Bill OReilly claimed he was in a combat situation in a war zone in falklands, when he was actually in a scary protest in Buenos Aires, and has given video to prove he was in Buenos Aires.



And the fact you're calling it stupid, and would rather talk about brian williams, shows you can't disagree with the valid points here, and you want to use 3rd grade mean words and make fun of libs instead :)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Brian williams deserved to be fired, not suspended for 6 months.

He claimed he took RPG fire, and he did not.

Bill OReilly claimed he was in a combat situation in a war zone in falklands, when he was actually in a scary protest in Buenos Aires, and has given video to prove he was in Buenos Aires.



And the fact you're calling it stupid, and would rather talk about brian williams, shows you can't disagree with the valid points here, and you want to use 3rd grade mean words and make fun of libs instead :)

at least williams was in the war zone,mr no spin zone was 1100 miles away
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 12:48:54 PM
at least williams was in the war zone,mr no spin zone was 1100 miles away

Williams lied to gain credibility - it's inexcusable.  

OReilly actually mocked another reporter because he didn't see this reporter while he was in the "warzones of falklands" at :45 of the video.  

Yes, his own words.  And yes, now OReilly admits he was actually covering a protest in Buenos Aires, not a warzone in falklands, but....



 ???
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 12:53:15 PM
Williams lied to gain credibility - it's inexcusable.  

OReilly actually mocked another reporter because he didn't see this reporter while he was in the "warzones of falklands" at :45 of the video.  

Yes, his own words.  And yes, now OReilly admits he was actually covering a protest in Buenos Aires, not a warzone in falklands, but....



 ???

yea and oreilly did the same thing to gain credibility
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
Brian williams deserved to be fired, not suspended for 6 months.

He claimed he took RPG fire, and he did not.

Bill OReilly claimed he was in a combat situation in a war zone in falklands, when he was actually in a scary protest in Buenos Aires, and has given video to prove he was in Buenos Aires.



And the fact you're calling it stupid, and would rather talk about brian williams, shows you can't disagree with the valid points here, and you want to use 3rd grade mean words and make fun of libs instead :)

This is elementary school logic, on a topic nobody cares about, that appeals to low information voters.  Not surprised at all that a liberal like you is all over it. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 12:56:42 PM
I mean, the distance is about the same from falklands to Buenos aires, as it is from NYC to freaking TEXAS LOL!!!

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
This is elementary school logic, on a topic nobody cares about, that appeals to low information voters.  Not surprised at all that a liberal like you is all over it. 

So we've gone from "vindicated" to "this is stupid" to "libs suck", down to "nobody cares anyway!"

Look, Bill-O is my favorite fox host.  I've watched him for almost a decade.  There are lots of posts from daily Factor shows from me, back to 2005 and 2006.  I have watched this show a ton. 

but at some point, we gotta agree.. he lied about his war coverage here.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
So we've gone from "vindicated" to "this is stupid" to "libs suck", down to "nobody cares anyway!"

Look, Bill-O is my favorite fox host.  I've watched him for almost a decade.  There are lots of posts from daily Factor shows from me, back to 2005 and 2006.  I have watched this show a ton. 

but at some point, we gotta agree.. he lied about his war coverage here.

I didn't say anyone was vindicated, because I really don't care.  But yes, this is a stupid non-issue.

I don't watch O'Reilly.  He is a blowhard.  I am amazed that he has made so much money while being such a pompous egomaniac (redundant?).  But he does kick the crap out of his competition and he's not a liberal, so naturally liberal lackeys will jump all over stupid stuff like this, particularly to try and take attention away from Brian Williams.

Nobody cares. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 01:04:18 PM
I didn't say anyone was vindicated, because I really don't care.  But yes, this is a stupid non-issue.

I don't watch O'Reilly.  He is a blowhard.  I am amazed that he has made so much money while being such a pompous egomaniac (redundant?).  But he does kick the crap out of his competition and he's not a liberal, so naturally liberal lackeys will jump all over stupid stuff like this, particularly to try and take attention away from Brian Williams.

Nobody cares. 

Libfags obessed w Fox care.   they have a life mission - destroy fox
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 01:05:20 PM
So we've gone from "vindicated" to "this is stupid" to "libs suck", down to "nobody cares anyway!"

Look, Bill-O is my favorite fox host.  I've watched him for almost a decade.  There are lots of posts from daily Factor shows from me, back to 2005 and 2006.  I have watched this show a ton. 

but at some point, we gotta agree.. he lied about his war coverage here.

yoy live in Florida, right ,so when the u.s invaded grenada you too were in a war zone you brave fucker lol
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 01:06:38 PM
I don't watch O'Reilly.  He is a blowhard.  I am amazed that he has made so much money while being such a pompous egomaniac (redundant?).

See, how can you know he's a blowhard if you don't watch him?  I enjoy his show and will still watch it.  I don't understand the criticism for the man if you don't really know what his show is about.  

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
See, how can you know he's a blowhard if you don't watch him?  I enjoy his show and will still watch it.  I don't understand the criticism for the man if you don't really know what his show is about.  



I've watched enough of his show to have an informed opinion. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2015, 01:09:37 PM
Libfags obessed w Fox care.   they have a life mission - destroy fox

What's funny is they don't really watch the channel, but rely on things from MSNBC and youtube clips. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 01:11:52 PM
yoy live in Florida, right ,so when the u.s invaded grenada you too were in a war zone you brave fucker lol

I looked around, blacken700, but I didn't see you when I was knee deep in uncut coke and body parts in grenada.  

I'm guessing that the restoration of the pre-revolutionary regime doesn't matter to liberals like you.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
let's cut to the chase is what oreilly did the same as what williams did,YES
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 01:32:51 PM
let's cut to the chase is what oreilly did the same as what williams did,YES
::)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
::)

lol ok
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 01:41:00 PM
lol ok

Ofagget has told a lot more lies than Williams or BOR yet ofaglibs still make excuses for him.  Why? 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 01:44:35 PM
Ofagget has told a lot more lies than Williams or BOR yet ofaglibs still make excuses for him.  Why? 

no, this isn't an obama thread.   sorry.
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Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 01:47:32 PM
this thread is about what oreilly did,and all i see is the fox faithful on here covering for him,it's quite funny
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 01:47:43 PM
no, this isn't an obama thread.   sorry.
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Williams - O-reilly lies = .0001

Obama lies  = 100000000000000000000000 000000000000000


Yet which are focused on?  
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2015, 01:48:48 PM
this thread is about what oreilly did,and all i see is the fox faithful on here covering for him,it's quite funny

BOR is an entertainer just like Williams.   FAGbama is an entertainer too.   They are all liars and entertainers - nothing else. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2015, 01:53:54 PM
BOR is an entertainer just like Williams.   FAGbama is an entertainer too.   They are all liars and entertainers - nothing else. 

did you ever here the saying you hurt the ones you love. you sure seem to show obama a lot of hurt LOL
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 24, 2015, 02:32:38 PM
no, this isn't an obama thread.   sorry.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 05:14:47 PM
Bill O'Reilly tries to end Falklands controversy: 'I want to stop this now'

O'Reilly said Monday he stands by his claim that people were killed in the riots.
FALSE

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/23/media/bill-oreilly-falklands-cbs-news/index.html

"I am coming after you with everything I have," O'Reilly told the Times. "You can take it as a threat."
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 24, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
All he has to say is "I got a little carried away" or "I misremembered".

He doesn't have to admit lying about severity of circumstances, or fibbing about the location by 1200 miles.

Turns out Bil-O also tried inserting himself into a famous suicide by saying he was right outside the house when it happens - the only problem is that he wasn't in the same state that day.



George de Mohrenschildt was a Russian emigre who befriended Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald and testified before the Warren Commission investigating the Kennedy assassination. On March 29, 1977, the same day he was contacted by the House Select Committee on Assassinations, he committed suicide at his daughter's home in Florida. At the time, O'Reilly was a reporter for Dallas' WFAA-TV who regularly reported on stories related to the Kennedy assassination.

O'Reilly has bizarrely inserted himself into de Mohrenschildt's story, claiming in books and on Fox News that he was outside the house seeking to interview de Mohrenschiltd at the time of his death. O'Reilly is under heavy criticism and scrutiny for his false claims about his 1982 Falklands War reporting.

O'Reilly's implausible tale was first flagged by Jefferson Morley in a 2013 post for his website JFKFacts.org. Morley has worked as an editor for The Washington Post, Salon.com, and Arms Control Today, and is a visiting professor at the University of California, Washington Center.

New interviews with former O'Reilly colleagues who say he wasn't in Florida on the day of de Mohrenschildt's suicide and documents obtained by Media Matters bolster Morley's reporting.

Read more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/02/24/oreilly-lied-about-suicide-of-jfk-assassination/202655
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 06:58:11 AM
Bill O'Reilly tries to end Falklands controversy: 'I want to stop this now'

O'Reilly said Monday he stands by his claim that people were killed in the riots.
FALSE

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/23/media/bill-oreilly-falklands-cbs-news/index.html

"I am coming after you with everything I have," O'Reilly told the Times. "You can take it as a threat."

Well, that isn't much.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 07:03:24 AM

Bill O'Reilly Lied About Witnessing Suicide Of JFK Assassin's Friend, Former Co-Workers Say
 


 The Huffington Post    |  By  Gabriel Arana

As Bill O’Reilly continues on the warpath against those reporting on whether he embellished his combat experience, new allegations have emerged that the Fox News anchor lied about being present at a suicide in Florida.

“He was in Dallas,” Tracy Rowlett, a former colleague of O’Reilly’s at Dallas station WFAA, told liberal watchdog Media Matters. “Bill O’Reilly’s a phony -- there’s no other way to put it.”

The Fox host has claimed on several occasions that he heard the gunshot that killed George de Mohrenschildt, a friend of JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald who committed suicide at his daughter’s home in Florida in 1977. O’Reilly originally made the claim in his 2012 book, Killing Kennedy. He repeated it during an appearance on "Fox & Friends" while promoting the book: “I was about to knock on the door where [de Mohrenschildt] was, his daughter’s house, and he blew his brains out with a shotgun,” O'Reilly said (see embedded video at the bottom of this piece). He made the claim again in an adaption of Killing Kennedy for younger readers.

Rowlett and Byron Harris, another of O’Reilly’s WFAA colleagues at the time, both say the embattled host was with them at WFAA’s Dallas headquarters when de Mohrenschildt died.

The station "would have reported it as some kind of exclusive -- and there was no exclusive -- if O'Reilly had been standing outside the door,” Harris said. Not only did WFAA run no exclusive, but the story was broken by The Dallas Morning News.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office investigation of de Mohrenschildt’s death does not mention O’Reilly. Nor does The Associated Press report of the incident, which only says de Mohrenschildt was in the house with two maids at the time, neither of which heard the gunshot.

According to Rowlett and Harris, O’Reilly never mentioned while he was working at WFAA that he was present when de Mohrenschildt committed suicide.

“That came later," Rowlett said. “That must have been a brain surge when he was writing the book.”

O’Reilly’s claim to have been in Florida is also contradicted by conversations the Fox host had with Gaeton Fonzi, an investigative journalist who wrote extensively about the Kennedy assassination. Fozi, who is now deceased, writes in his biography that he received a call from O’Reilly shortly after the suicide, asking for confirmation it had happened. From Fozi’s autobiography:


About 6:30 that evening I received a call from Bill O’Reilly, a friend who was then a television reporter in Dallas. “Funny thing happened,” he said. “We just aired a story that came over the wire about a Dutch journalist saying the Assassinations Committee has finally located de Mohrenschildt in South Florida. Now de Mohrenschildt’s attorney, a guy named Pat Russel, he calls and says de Mohrenschildt committed suicide this afternoon. Is that true?”



The new charges promise for the embattled Fox entertainer, who since last Thursday has fended off accusations that he overstated his war reporting experience. O’Reilly has claimed in the past that he "reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands" during his time with CBS and "survived a combat situation in Argentina during the Falklands War.” O’Reilly was in Buenos Aires -- 1,200 miles from the Falklands -- when the conflict ended, but maintained in an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt* that the riots he witnessed in the capital constitute a “combat situation.”

O’Reilly did not immediately respond to request for comment through the publisher of Killing Kennedy, Henry Holt and Co.

*CORRECTION: A previous version of this story misstated the name of the host O'Reilly spoke with. It was Hugh Hewitt rather than Howard Kurtz.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 07:42:57 AM
240 and the other douches...funny the libs loose one of their own and immediatly come looking for somebody else. Oreilly was in the the riot...period.  His story is backed by the station. The other shit...suicide etc...I'm sure he'll have an answer for that but quoting either Media Matters or the Huff post as credible when all they do is attack the NUMBER ONE CABLE News station repeatedly...come on libs you can do better.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2015, 07:43:37 AM
240 and the other douches...funny the libs loose one of their own and immediatly come looking for somebody else. Oreilly was in the the riot...period.  His story is backed by the station. The other shit...suicide etc...I'm sure he'll have an answer for that but quoting either Media Matters or the Huff post as credible when all they do is attack the NUMBER ONE CABLE News station repeatedly...come on libs you can do better.

No they can't do better.   ;)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 07:53:15 AM
I think the Falklands thing is done.....the suicide thing is new to me so whatever. I have to wonder with all the money at stake that he'd BS about that but who knows.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:03:07 AM
sorry but your boy is a liar  :D

* In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O’Reilly stated, “You know that I am not easily shocked. I’ve reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands.”

* Conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in a 2003 book, described how O’Reilly answered a question during a Washington panel discussion about media coverage of the Afghanistan war: “Rather than simply answer the question, O’Reilly began by trying to establish his own bona fides as a war correspondent. ‘I’ve covered wars, okay? I’ve been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I’ve almost been killed three times, okay.’ ”
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 08:11:44 AM
LOL @ trying to defend Billy-O for doing the exact same thing you are condemning  Brian Williams for doing with your next breath.   
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:15:40 AM
LOL @ trying to defend Billy-O for doing the exact same thing you are condemning  Brian Williams for doing with your next breath.   


I know talk about hypocrites  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 08:16:35 AM
I am 100% willing to say both Williams and OReilly are liars that exaggerated their war experience to appear more credible in the media world.  

it's funny how people are unwilling to do that, despite the outright obvious lies and overwhelming evidence.  OReilly simply wasn't where he said he was, period, there's no arguing that.  He was never in the falklands war zone like he said he was.  And he was out of the state when he claimed he was right near a suicide.  

Dude lied.  I dont care if they suspend him.  I think it's more entertaining with him ON thee air.  But for him to threaten reporters when their story is, well, accurate?  and for getbiggers to defend oreilly with "Libs suck..."   just admit the dude is a liar, have a laugh and a beer, and move on.   

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 08:18:35 AM
I know talk about hypocrites  :D :D :D :D

They both did the exact same thing.  They lied.  It's proven.  There is no two ways about it.

Yet the dingbats condemn Williams for doing so and yet rally around Billy-O in a concentrated effort of denial. 

HAHAHAHAHA.   Oh I forgot... Billy has been "vindicated".   :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
They both did the exact same thing.  They lied.  It's proven.  There is no two ways about it.

Yet the dingbats condemn Williams for doing so and yet rally around Billy-O in a concentrated effort of denial. 

HAHAHAHAHA.   Oh I forgot... Billy has been "vindicated".   :D

that "vindicated" is the quote of the month lol.  Bill-O proven to be a liar by his own video.  It wasn't in the falklands, period, like he claimed.

and 7 CBS people who were there, say that story of dragging a wounded cameraman is, well....
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 08:22:43 AM
I am 100% willing to say both Williams and OReilly are liars that exaggerated their war experience to appear more credible in the media world.  

it's funny how people are unwilling to do that, despite the outright obvious lies and overwhelming evidence.  OReilly simply wasn't where he said he was, period, there's no arguing that.  He was never in the falklands war zone like he said he was.  And he was out of the state when he claimed he was right near a suicide.  

Dude lied.  I dont care if they suspend him.  I think it's more entertaining with him ON thee air.  But for him to threaten reporters when their story is, well, accurate?  and for getbiggers to defend oreilly with "Libs suck..."   just admit the dude is a liar, have a laugh and a beer, and move on.   





He never said he was on the Falklands.....he explained exactly where he was and what he was doing. You have whitewashed his answer to further your agenda here. You do this all the time. You are not and have never been a conservative. You knee pad for Obama and the Dems aat every turn. I don't really care about O'reilly....I care more about the asshole you all voted for and how he's fucking everything up.....yet you all refuse to debate that.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:24:52 AM


He never said he was on the Falklands.....he explained exactly where he was and what he was doing. You have whitewashed his answer to further your agenda here. You do this all the time. You are not and have never been a conservative. You knee pad for Obama and the Dems aat every turn. I don't really care about O'reilly....I care more about the asshole you all voted for and how he's fucking everything up.....yet you all refuse to debate that.




sorry but your boy is a liar  :D

* In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O’Reilly stated, “You know that I am not easily shocked. I’ve reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands.”

* Conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in a 2003 book, described how O’Reilly answered a question during a Washington panel discussion about media coverage of the Afghanistan war: “Rather than simply answer the question, O’Reilly began by trying to establish his own bona fides as a war correspondent. ‘I’ve covered wars, okay? I’ve been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I’ve almost been killed three times, okay.’ ”

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 08:29:08 AM
Never in any interview or speech or anything did Bill say he was on Goose Green (look it up)....or humped with the 22nd Royal Marines as they took the Island...never once. He did say he was in a riot as a result of the war. He was as close as reporters were allowed to get and he got a story. This story ain't getting the play you all hoped it would. He went head on and answered it. Fox is currently behind him.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:29:53 AM


He never said he was on the Falklands.....he explained exactly where he was and what he was doing. You have whitewashed his answer to further your agenda here. You do this all the time. You are not and have never been a conservative. You knee pad for Obama and the Dems aat every turn. I don't really care about O'reilly....I care more about the asshole you all voted for and how he's fucking everything up.....yet you all refuse to debate that.

Anything to divert attention away from the liar in chief they support.

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Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:31:33 AM
lol   just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true  :D


Never in any interview or speech or anything did Bill say he was on Goose Green (look it up)....or humped with the 22nd Royal Marines as they took the Island...never once. He did say he was in a riot as a result of the war. He was as close as reporters were allowed to get and he got a story. This story ain't getting the play you all hoped it would. He went head on and answered it. Fox is currently behind him.







sorry but your boy is a liar  :D

* In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O’Reilly stated, “You know that I am not easily shocked. I’ve reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands.”

* Conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in a 2003 book, described how O’Reilly answered a question during a Washington panel discussion about media coverage of the Afghanistan war: “Rather than simply answer the question, O’Reilly began by trying to establish his own bona fides as a war correspondent. ‘I’ve covered wars, okay? I’ve been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I’ve almost been killed three times, okay.’ ”

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:35:35 AM



Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2015, 08:36:33 AM




THREAD OVER
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
Show me where he said he saw combat on the falklands....he explained where he was. He's not given any details about anything else on TV
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:39:39 AM
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Option D on February 25, 2015, 08:40:41 AM
Even faced with facts.. theres still a rationalization, denial and dismissal, sides will chose sides...

Sickening to say the least.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:40:53 AM
sorry but your boy is a liar  :D

* In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O’Reilly stated, “You know that I am not easily shocked. I’ve reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands.”

* Conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in a 2003 book, described how O’Reilly answered a question during a Washington panel discussion about media coverage of the Afghanistan war: “Rather than simply answer the question, O’Reilly began by trying to establish his own bona fides as a war correspondent. ‘I’ve covered wars, okay? I’ve been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I’ve almost been killed three times, okay.’ ”

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2015, 08:41:22 AM


Thread Over 2.0
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:41:46 AM
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2015, 08:42:12 AM
Even faced with facts.. theres still a rationalization, denial and dismissal, sides will chose sides...

Sickening to say the least.

Yet you still voted for Obama in 2012 despite far worse and more obvious lies


Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:43:25 AM
Even faced with facts.. theres still a rationalization, denial and dismissal, sides will chose sides...

Sickening to say the least.

I think it's funny as hell,they all say they don't care about bill-o yet they come on here and look like fools trying to defend him  :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:43:30 AM
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 08:44:01 AM
Even faced with facts.. theres still a rationalization, denial and dismissal, sides will chose sides...

Sickening to say the least.

And deflection.... the thread is about Bill and Brian... but hey let's talk about Obama.   :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 08:45:13 AM
I think it's funny as hell,they all say they don't care about bill-o yet they come on here and look like fools trying to defend him  :D

"Vindicated"
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2015, 08:46:06 AM
And deflection.... the thread is about Bill and Brian... but hey let's talk about Obama.   :D

BOR didn't ram a pos law down the neck of the country based on lies that affects 1/6 of the economy - ofag did and yet you fags still support him. 


Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 08:47:03 AM
BOR didn't ram a pos law down the neck of the country based on lies that affects 1/6 of the economy - ofag did and yet you fags still support him. 




You sound upset.    :'(
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 08:47:22 AM
And deflection.... the thread is about Bill and Brian... but hey let's talk about Obama.   :D

tactic of stupid people  ;D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:53:18 AM
BOR didn't ram a pos law down the neck of the country based on lies that affects 1/6 of the economy - ofag did and yet you fags still support him. 




The lbs sit in silent while Obama lies constantly... hypocrisy at its finest!

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Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 25, 2015, 08:55:05 AM
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Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 09:00:30 AM
I'm not deflecting....I paste in proof based on what Oreilly said..backed by his former boses and yet you site lib media outlets with an ax to grind against Fox News. So its a no win regardless. You people can't debate real topics so you pick ones like this without verifible facts. You supply your own from questionable leftwing sources and then pat each's back on how right you were.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
 more from the  lib media outlets you know bill-os own book the no spin zone  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

sorry but your boy is a liar   :D

* In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O’Reilly stated, “You know that I am not easily shocked. I’ve reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands.”

* Conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in a 2003 book, described how O’Reilly answered a question during a Washington panel discussion about media coverage of the Afghanistan war: “Rather than simply answer the question, O’Reilly began by trying to establish his own bona fides as a war correspondent. ‘I’ve covered wars, okay? I’ve been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I’ve almost been killed three times, okay.’ ”

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: dario73 on February 25, 2015, 09:17:27 AM
HEHEHEHEHEHEH!!

Libtards having a meltdown.  This is hilarious!!

O'Reilly has been vindicated. Move on, idiots.

I would be more worried about the lies that your lord and savior made over and over again after he became "president".
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 25, 2015, 09:22:41 AM
I think it's funny as hell,they all say they don't care about bill-o yet they come on here and look like fools trying to defend him  :D

I'm not defending O'Reilly.  I think I've made a good case why these two situations aren't equivalent.  Nightly News and the O'Reilly factor are two very different beasts.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 09:27:15 AM
I'm not defending O'Reilly.  I think I've made a good case why these two situations aren't equivalent.  Nightly News and the O'Reilly factor are two very different beasts.

I agree,but for some to come on here and defend him and say he's not lying,you have to admit is laughable
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 09:27:32 AM
HEHEHEHEHEHEH!!

Libtards having a meltdown.  This is hilarious!!

O'Reilly has been vindicated. Move on, idiots.

I would be more worried about the lies that your lord and savior made over and over again after he became "president".

^^  Obviously one of the glow in the dark jelly humans that Tom Kirby is so worried about.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 09:32:33 AM
I'm not defending O'Reilly.  I think I've made a good case why these two situations aren't equivalent.  Nightly News and the O'Reilly factor are two very different beasts.

So if Jon Stewart used a made-up war story to punk a guest on his show, then it was discovered he never even stepped FOOT in the country where he claimed this warzone took place...

You don't think people on the right would be calling Stewart out, because he's entertainment, not "news"?

I never watched Bwilliams... 630 news is stupid.
I do watch Bill-O and will continue to do so.
I want obama impeached for F&F, as I've been very vocal about.

Bill-O claimed to be in a warzone in a country - and he was never in that country.  The video is from buenos aires.  Not sure where "vindicated" comes from lol.  either way, it's a minor issue, but williams got a 6 month suspension for fibing about RPG fire.  Bill-O never even visited the country where he was "almost killed" in a "warzone". 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
People can't bitch about one liar and then defend another.

Oh wait, hypocrites can.  LOL
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 25, 2015, 09:35:12 AM
So if Jon Stewart used a made-up war story to punk a guest on his show, then it was discovered he never even stepped FOOT in the country where he claimed this warzone took place...

You don't think people on the right would be calling Stewart out, because he's entertainment, not "news"?

I never watched Bwilliams... 630 news is stupid.
I do watch Bill-O and will continue to do so.
I want obama impeached for F&F, as I've been very vocal about.

Bill-O claimed to be in a warzone in a country - and he was never in that country.  The video is from buenos aires.  Not sure where "vindicated" comes from lol.  either way, it's a minor issue, but williams got a 6 month suspension for fibing about RPG fire.  Bill-O never even visited the country where he was "almost killed" in a "warzone". 


People have the right to call out anyone they want but it's false to claim there is equivalence between the two situations.  As I mentioned before, Bill O'Reilly is as much an nonpartisan journalist as Jon Stewart.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2015, 09:36:00 AM
People can't bitch about one liar and then defend another.

Oh wait, hypocrites can.  LOL

ARE YOU FNG KIDDING ????

YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA 2X REMEMBER YOU FNG FOOL? 

TYPICAL OBAMA CULTIST FANATICAL SYCOPHANTIC LEMMING
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 09:42:12 AM
AHAHAHAA Obama obsession in full effect.  Even on threads that are not about him.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 09:45:14 AM

People have the right to call out anyone they want but it's false to claim there is equivalence between the two situations.  As I mentioned before, Bill O'Reilly is as much an nonpartisan journalist as Jon Stewart.

it doesn't matter whether the person is a "serious" newsreader, or a "non-serious" joke-reader.

Williams used a fake war attack to gain credibility with viewers.
Bill Oreilly used an entire fake war experience in Falklands, in order to PUNK another journalist.  "I didn't see YOU in the warzones of the falklands".   He should have said "I didn't see YOU in the violent protests in Buenos Aires".  That would have been accurate.  

Besides, if we are arguing about whether or not it matters OReilly lied... then we already accept that he changed the country of his conflict, maybe sprinkled in saving the reporter's life... and maybe he "almost died" 3 times, maybe that was bullshit.  Maybe he witnessed a suicide, maybe he didn't.  

If we're saying it's okay for pundits to completely lie about war experience, I understand... when Rachel Maddow brags on her show about her secret mission to Nkorea or Iran, I hope nobody complains lol...
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 25, 2015, 09:51:19 AM
it doesn't matter whether the person is a "serious" newsreader, or a "non-serious" joke-reader.

Williams used a fake war attack to gain credibility with viewers.
Bill Oreilly used an entire fake war experience in Falklands, in order to PUNK another journalist.  "I didn't see YOU in the warzones of the falklands".   He should have said "I didn't see YOU in the violent protests in Buenos Aires".  That would have been accurate.  

Besides, if we are arguing about whether or not it matters OReilly lied... then we already accept that he changed the country of his conflict, maybe sprinkled in saving the reporter's life... and maybe he "almost died" 3 times, maybe that was bullshit.  Maybe he witnessed a suicide, maybe he didn't.  

If we're saying it's okay for pundits to completely lie about war experience, I understand... when Rachel Maddow brags on her show about her secret mission to Nkorea or Iran, I hope nobody complains lol...

It absolutely does matter.  The reputation and legacy of NBC's Nightly News means a lot more than the O'Reilly Factor. Williams personal reputation was worth  more than O'Reillys. I also think you're making this out to be more of a left/right thing than it actually is.  It wasn't the right wing media out to get Williams. Williams fall was a big story that was covered by everyone.   I am going to defend O'Reilly in that as far as I know he didn't go out of his way to attack Williams.  If he had, then it would be fair to say their is some kind of hypocrisy happening.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 10:02:13 AM
I am going to defend O'Reilly in that as far as I know he didn't go out of his way to attack Williams.  If he had, then it would be fair to say their is some kind of hypocrisy happening.

I understand.  But oreilly DID go out of his way to attack Williams for his "mis-reporting". 
Here you can see OReilly, in Feb 13th of this year, shitting all over Williams for lying.

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 25, 2015, 10:03:59 AM
I understand.  But here you can see OReilly, in Feb 13th of this year, shitting all over Williams for lying.



Then he's a hypocrite as a person.  I'm fine with that. It's Bill O'Reilly what do you expect.  But I still believe there is no comparison between the two situations. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Dos Equis on February 25, 2015, 10:04:16 AM


He never said he was on the Falklands.....he explained exactly where he was and what he was doing. You have whitewashed his answer to further your agenda here. You do this all the time. You are not and have never been a conservative. You knee pad for Obama and the Dems aat every turn. I don't really care about O'reilly....I care more about the asshole you all voted for and how he's fucking everything up.....yet you all refuse to debate that.

I had to read this twice, because I thought it was something I posted.  lol   :)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
The reputation and legacy of NBC's Nightly News means a lot more than the O'Reilly Factor.

I would LOVE to see how many people on getbig believe NBC Nightly News has a better REPUTATION than the FACTOR.

LOL... OReilly Factor is the #1 show on fox, beating out Megyn Kelly.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30/fox-news-cable-news-ratings_n_6398220.html

So how many getbiggers agree the NBC nightly news is more credible than the #1 show on FOX?  Says a lot there... :(
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 25, 2015, 10:10:26 AM
I would LOVE to see how many people on getbig believe NBC Nightly News has a better REPUTATION than the FACTOR.

LOL... OReilly Factor is the #1 show on fox, beating out Megyn Kelly.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30/fox-news-cable-news-ratings_n_6398220.html

So how many getbiggers agree the NBC nightly news is more credible than the #1 show on FOX?  Says a lot there... :(

I'm not sure asking getbiggers to determine the better reputation of the two provides any kind of real answer to the question.  You go to India and ask them whether they like hamburgers or curry.  In terms of reputation from other journalists, I would wager Night News would win by a factor of a thousand.  And it's journalists who write the stories that appear in the media.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 10:13:02 AM
I'm not sure asking getbiggers to determine the better reputation of the two provides any kind of real answer to the question.  You go to India and ask them whether they like hamburgers or curry.  In terms of reputation from other journalists, I would wager Night News would win by a factor of a thousand.  And it's journalists who write the stories that appear in the media.

then we have to accept that CREDIBILITY is not a requirement in the long-time face/top show on FOX "news".

Now it's a major problem.  Now this backs up the studies showing fox less credible, and somehow it's cool because FOX is classified as entertainment now, and not News?

I cannot accept a scenario you're presenting, where FOX hosts can LIE because we don't expect credibility from them.  I can't.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 25, 2015, 10:22:07 AM
then we have to accept that CREDIBILITY is not a requirement in the long-time face/top show on FOX "news".

Now it's a major problem.  Now this backs up the studies showing fox less credible, and somehow it's cool because FOX is classified as entertainment now, and not News?

I cannot accept a scenario you're presenting, where FOX hosts can LIE because we don't expect credibility from them.  I can't.


Credibility may be a factor(pun intended) but its more about reputation not only of the Nightly News but Brian Williams.  O'Reilly's lie/embellishment whatever you want to call it also happened thirty years ago.  Williams was spreading his lies pretty recently. It's a fresher cut therefore it bleeds more and attracts the sharks.  I'm not saying a fox host can lie because we don't expect credibility.   Nightly News and Williams actively promoted the facade that they were an unbiased nonpartisan news organization.  Williams lies damaged his reputation but also the brand of NBC news.  It's also apparent that NBC news knew about his dishonesty and either ignored it or attempted to cover it up.  There is a lot more scandal worth material in that than some blow hard lying about something that happened thirty years ago.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 10:31:22 AM
O'Reilly's lie/embellishment whatever you want to call it also happened thirty years ago.  Williams was spreading his lies pretty recently.

OReilly's claims/embelishments happened as recently as 2008.
He shit all over another reporter while making the claim in 2008.   



In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O'Reilly stated, "You know that I am not easily shocked. I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands."

Conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in a 2003 book, described how O'Reilly answered a question during a Washington panel discussion about media coverage of the Afghanistan war: "Rather than simply answer the question, O'Reilly began by trying to establish his own bona fides as a war correspondent. 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.'"

In a 2004 column about US soldiers fighting in Iraq, O'Reilly noted, "Having survived a combat situation in Argentina during the Falklands war, I know that life-and-death decisions are made in a flash."

In 2008, he took a shot at journalist Bill Moyers, saying, "I missed Moyers in the war zones of [the] Falkland conflict in Argentina, the Middle East, and Northern Ireland. I looked for Bill, but I didn't see him."



The more you look at it, the more you realize - the #1 host of the #1 show on the #1 cable news network has been full of shit repeatedly in his claims in recent years.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
What are his claims about Northern Ireland.....please explain. You act as if you were there or have first hand knowlege that Bill is full of shit as fact...as opposed to parroting such sites as media matters.....your facts are as shakey as O'Reilly's explainations.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 11:13:28 AM
What are his claims about Northern Ireland.....please explain. You act as if you were there or have first hand knowlege that Bill is full of shit as fact...as opposed to parroting such sites as media matters.....your facts are as shakey as O'Reilly's explainations.

this is the point where Bill O Supporters will see an inability to disprove the Ireland claim as some sort of "vindication" of his disproved Falkland claims.

No need to get into his further claims, where he almost died in battle 3 times.  Ireland doesn't matter, although if it's anything like his assassination claim or falklands claim, wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 11:20:34 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 240 you keep mentioning Northern Ireland....so whats the deal?  He was in a riot...people died as is backed by his former producer. It wasnt on the island but it was part of the conflict. He reported it.....he could be embellsihing a bit...but I don't know unless I see video of the riot with Bill in it. Your claims or proof are being generated by agencies that HATE FOX NEWS!
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 240 you keep mentioning Northern Ireland....so whats the deal? 

I keep mentioning argentina.  I wouldn't divert into a 2nd location/claim.  No sense muddying everything. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 11:30:01 AM
He never claimed the Falklands....he said he covered the war. Nobody got on the Island....maybe the BBC but I think most video was British Army.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
He never claimed the Falklands.

Yes, he did.  

'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands,

"I missed Moyers in the war zones of [the] Falkland conflict in Argentina, the Middle East, and Northern Ireland. I looked for Bill, but I didn't see him."

I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands."

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on February 25, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Meaning the conflict........I have no idea but I suspect its common knowledge atleast among journalists that there were none on the ground on the Island.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 12:08:52 PM
Meaning the conflict........I have no idea but I suspect its common knowledge atleast among journalists that there were none on the ground on the Island.

correct - and none of them have been claiming it while shitting on other reporters for not showing the bravery that they claim.

Bill-O got on the news on Feb 13th and took a victory lap over Williams, dissing in on the air for it.
Then it turns out, Bill-O made much bigger claims. 

Imagine if WIlliams' quote was "I was actually on a secret mission IN IRAN, and it was my THIRD mission where I was almost killed, people were getting shredded with machine gun fire all around me, and I personally saved an injured man that almost fell out of the chopper, and I didn't see YOU, Rush limbaugh, while I was doing all this heroic shit..."  -   Faked place, faked heroics, faked claims of deaths,

Bill-O did everything he could to make people think he was in the warzone, and that it was in the falklands.  And while doing so, he mocked others who lacked his incredible courage and experience for not being in the warzone with him
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 25, 2015, 01:24:22 PM
Meaning the conflict........I have no idea but I suspect its common knowledge atleast among journalists that there were none on the ground on the Island.

brahahahah all the hippies were at Vietnam because they were at the protest in th u.s.  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 25, 2015, 03:04:08 PM
He never claimed the Falklands....he said he covered the war. Nobody got on the Island....maybe the BBC but I think most video was British Army.

Dude give it a rest.  His words claiming exactly that are documented.  Why is defending him so important to you?
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: chadstallion on February 25, 2015, 04:31:57 PM
would pay money to have keith olbermann back on TV to offer his take on Billo.
the loofah - gate era was priceless !
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2015, 10:49:09 PM
WOW.... THIS is a big statement by OReilly.   He says such horrible things...and can't keep his lies straight.   :-\

The warzone fibs, the assassination obvious lie, and now his own words vindicating the haters... he's a serial liar, and nobody can deny it.  

I'm predicting at some point in the next 48 hours (maybe late fri news dump lol), OReilly gives a huge "explanation".  He'll get to keep his pride, he'll get to keep the "vindication", but he will explain that sometimes he gets "carried away" when trying to "make a point" and will sometimes "use creativity and exposition" to help his viewers relate to the experiences of others.

Then he takes a few voluntary weeks off to regroup, returns, and acts like nothing happens  :)




Fox News host Bill O’Reilly’s reporting is being questioned again, this time regarding his apparent claim that he witnessed American nuns being shot in the head in El Salvador.

According to Media Matters, O’Reilly contradicted his own reporting making that statement on the Dec. 14, 2012 episode of The O’Reilly Factor.

“My mother, for example, doesn’t understand evil. I would tell her, ‘Hey mom, I was in El Salvador and I saw nuns get shot in the back of the head,’” O’Reilly told guests Brian Russell and Karen Ruskin in a discussion following the Sandy Hook Elementary mass shooting attack. He made a similar remark on his radio show seven years earlier, saying, “I’ve seen guys gun down nuns in El Salvador.”


But O’Reilly had also stated on multiple occasions that he was not assigned to work in El Salvador for CBS News until after the nuns were raped, shot and killed by members of the country’s national guard in December 1980.

“Before I went to El Salvador in 1981, I talked with some experienced Latin American experts, people who had seen the brutal wars down there for themselves,” he said on the Factor on Feb. 22, 2002. “I had never been in a war zone before, so I wanted some prep.”

Seven years later, he told WVVH-TV that he went to El Salvador “right after” the shooting.

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 26, 2015, 03:16:12 AM
WOW.... THIS is a big statement by OReilly.   He says such horrible things...and can't keep his lies straight.   :-\

The warzone fibs, the assassination obvious lie, and now his own words vindicating the haters... he's a serial liar, and nobody can deny it.  

I'm predicting at some point in the next 48 hours (maybe late fri news dump lol), OReilly gives a huge "explanation".  He'll get to keep his pride, he'll get to keep the "vindication", but he will explain that sometimes he gets "carried away" when trying to "make a point" and will sometimes "use creativity and exposition" to help his viewers relate to the experiences of others.

Then he takes a few voluntary weeks off to regroup, returns, and acts like nothing happens  :)




Fox News host Bill O’Reilly’s reporting is being questioned again, this time regarding his apparent claim that he witnessed American nuns being shot in the head in El Salvador.

According to Media Matters, O’Reilly contradicted his own reporting making that statement on the Dec. 14, 2012 episode of The O’Reilly Factor.

“My mother, for example, doesn’t understand evil. I would tell her, ‘Hey mom, I was in El Salvador and I saw nuns get shot in the back of the head,’” O’Reilly told guests Brian Russell and Karen Ruskin in a discussion following the Sandy Hook Elementary mass shooting attack. He made a similar remark on his radio show seven years earlier, saying, “I’ve seen guys gun down nuns in El Salvador.”


But O’Reilly had also stated on multiple occasions that he was not assigned to work in El Salvador for CBS News until after the nuns were raped, shot and killed by members of the country’s national guard in December 1980.

“Before I went to El Salvador in 1981, I talked with some experienced Latin American experts, people who had seen the brutal wars down there for themselves,” he said on the Factor on Feb. 22, 2002. “I had never been in a war zone before, so I wanted some prep.”

Seven years later, he told WVVH-TV that he went to El Salvador “right after” the shooting.




he's the gift that keeps giving  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 26, 2015, 06:11:19 AM

he's the gift that keeps giving  :D :D :D :D :D

Additional "vindication".
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: chadstallion on February 26, 2015, 09:20:46 AM
or he will do what he did when he had his radio show and loofahgate was happening.
he made a final statement and said he will NEVER talk about this again and no calls will be accepted that bring up this topic.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 09:45:33 AM
or he will do what he did when he had his radio show and loofahgate was happening.
he made a final statement and said he will NEVER talk about this again and no calls will be accepted that bring up this topic.


Brian williams should have just done that. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: James on February 26, 2015, 10:35:36 AM
Looks like 3 major holes in the war stories of Bill OReilly.  

First, you hear multiple statements about his 3 near-death experiences in these warzones.
Then you see multiple videos/facts debunking his claims, down to "No US reporters were there" and "This incident was 1000 miles away, a year after the war ended".  

They were right to bounce Brian Williams after lying about the helicopter incident.  If Bill-O lied about 1, or 2, or 3 incidents...  ???

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war

(Go ahead and shit on the source if you're an idiot, if you have a brain, click the link and look at the evidence.  They've been building a case against him for 10 days and have done their research... you see him on FOX claiming things that may not have happened)

The banning of certain bullets (more to come), executive amnesty,  government takeover of the healthcare, government takeover of the internet, etc. but lets spend all days talking about BOR to deflect from what Obama is doing ::)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 26, 2015, 10:38:25 AM
The banning of certain bullets (more to come), executive amnesty,  government take over the our healthcare, government take over the our internet, etc. but lets spend all days talking about BOR to deflect from what Obama is doing ::)

if anybody wants to discuss it they'll go on the thread you started,stay on topic
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 10:44:57 AM
Good Ole Bill.  Another loud mouth Irishman. But seriously, what do people hope to accomplish by pointing out O'Reilly's lies?  Fox won't fire him and his reputation will remain exactly the same.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: chadstallion on February 26, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
Good Ole Bill.  Another loud mouth Irishman. But seriously, what do people hope to accomplish by pointing out O'Reilly's lies?  Fox won't fire him and his reputation will remain exactly the same.
what would do him in would be another sex scandal.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
what would do him in would be another sex scandal.

You're absolutely right.  That would bury him for good.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 26, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Can't think of many that can survive a sex scandal.  Except Arnold.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 02:03:45 PM
what would do him in would be another sex scandal.

i dunno... it's hard to top fantasizing about watching nuns get shot in head.  that's disgusting.  bragging about witnessing one of the worst things imaginable?  Sick, sick.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on February 26, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
now he says he meant he seen pictures of nuns getting shot brahahahahahahahaah  the lying never ends
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 02:34:49 PM
i dunno... it's hard to top fantasizing about watching nuns get shot in head.  that's disgusting.  bragging about witnessing one of the worst things imaginable?  Sick, sick.

To be taken seriously you need to stop speculating wildly about what people are thinking or were motivated by.  I doubt he was fantasizing about watching nuns get shot in the head.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Option D on February 26, 2015, 03:09:11 PM
To be taken seriously you need to stop speculating wildly about what people are thinking or were motivated by.  I doubt he was fantasizing about watching nuns get shot in the head.
Really bro
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
Really bro

Yes.  He does it all the time.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 26, 2015, 03:35:52 PM
Yes.  He does it all the time.

Does it apply to him or to everyone.  Namely the spazztastic retard that does it even more?
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 03:39:14 PM
he spread a lie - a fantasy - that he saw nuns shot in the head.

A lie, a tall tale, a fantasy, a mis-truth... You can charasterize it any way you wish.  Bottom line is this:

Bill OReilly pretended he saw nuns shot in the head... and told the world about this imagining.

Why would ANY person pretend to see such a thing?  ???
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
Does it apply to him or to everyone.  Namely the spazztastic retard that does it even more?


Hahaha, I don't know who you're talking about. I'm having a hard time deciphering the code.  Yes, it even applies to him.  

he spread a lie - a fantasy - that he saw nuns shot in the head.

A lie, a tall tale, a fantasy, a mis-truth... You can charasterize it any way you wish.  Bottom line is this:

Bill OReilly pretended he saw nuns shot in the head... and told the world about this imagining.

Why would ANY person pretend to see such a thing?  ???

That doesn't mean he's fantasizing about it.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 04:57:50 PM
That doesn't mean he's fantasizing about it.

He's gaining something from it.  Otherwise he wouldn't share such a sick fake experience with million of people.

OReilly factor starts in 3 minutes.... looking fwd to it!
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 04:59:37 PM
He's gaining something from it.  Otherwise he wouldn't share such a sick fake experience with million of people.

OReilly factor starts in 3 minutes.... looking fwd to it!

But that doesn't mean he's fantasizing.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 05:05:34 PM
But that doesn't mean he's fantasizing.

Okay - Allow me to show you how this actually is a fantasy:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fantasy

imagination, especially when extravagant and unrestrained.
2.
the forming of mental images, especially wondrous or strange fancies; imaginative conceptualizing.
3.
a mental image, especially when unreal or fantastic; vision:
a nightmare fantasy.
4.
Psychology. an imagined or conjured up sequence fulfilling a psychological need; daydream.
5.
a hallucination.
6.
a supposition based on no solid foundation; visionary idea; illusion:
dreams of Utopias and similar fantasies.
7.
caprice; whim.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 05:08:07 PM
Okay - Allow me to show you how this actually is a fantasy:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fantasy

imagination, especially when extravagant and unrestrained.
2.
the forming of mental images, especially wondrous or strange fancies; imaginative conceptualizing.
3.
a mental image, especially when unreal or fantastic; vision:
a nightmare fantasy.
4.
Psychology. an imagined or conjured up sequence fulfilling a psychological need; daydream.
5.
a hallucination.
6.
a supposition based on no solid foundation; visionary idea; illusion:
dreams of Utopias and similar fantasies.
7.
caprice; whim.

yes you define it but that doesn't mean he was doing that. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
yes you define it but that doesn't mean he was doing that. 

Oh yes, by several of those definition, it was a fantasy.  He told americans about his fantasy - his unreal mental image, by definition, that he had witnessed the shootings.

Why he did it, I do not know.  But by definition, it was a fantasy that he shared.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
Oh yes, by several of those definition, it was a fantasy.  He told americans about his fantasy - his unreal mental image, by definition, that he had witnessed the shootings.

Why he did it, I do not know.  But by definition, it was a fantasy that he shared.

You said he was fantasizing about it. You can't know that. You certainly can't determine that from the number of times he mentioned it.

fan·ta·size
ˈfan(t)əˌsīz/
verb
gerund or present participle: fantasizing
indulge in daydreaming about something desired.
"he sometimes fantasized about emigrating"
synonyms:   daydream, dream, muse, make-believe, pretend, imagine; More
imagine (something that one wants to happen).
"they sometimes fantasize the destruction of the world"
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 05:23:33 PM
so we agree he lied... we're debating his motive for it, whether it was something he desired, something based in jealousy, or if he just wanted props/praise.  How far we've come.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 05:34:48 PM
so we agree he lied... we're debating his motive for it, whether it was something he desired, something based in jealousy, or if he just wanted props/praise.  How far we've come.

I'm saying he isn't sitting at home fantasizing about it like a pervert.  He obviously wanted the rep that comes from being a war correspondent.  But really, did you actually expect anything less from O'Reilly?  I think I've seen about five minutes of his show before I turned it off.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 05:43:31 PM
I'm saying he isn't sitting at home fantasizing about it like a pervert.  He obviously wanted the rep that comes from being a war correspondent.  But really, did you actually expect anything less from O'Reilly?  I think I've seen about five minutes of his show before I turned it off.

why did you introduce the pervert thing?  I always thought it to be to cure his insecurity, as well as his need to belittle those around him who weren't there to witness nuns getting shot.  IE: "I didn't see YOU when..."

I love his show.  tonight we had a piece on "would you take them to dinner"  with Rand Paul and Joe Biden.

Now it's a frame-by-frame analysis of Madonna falling, along with a panel to discuss her stage accident.

He is the #1 show on FOX, bigger than Megyn kelly.  Tells you what FOX viewers want. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 26, 2015, 05:48:40 PM

Hahaha, I don't know who you're talking about. I'm having a hard time deciphering the code.  Yes, it even applies to him.  


A'ight... you delivered an El-Oh-El on that one.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 05:50:22 PM
why did you introduce the pervert thing?  I always thought it to be to cure his insecurity, as well as his need to belittle those around him who weren't there to witness nuns getting shot.  IE: "I didn't see YOU when..."

I love his show.  tonight we had a piece on "would you take them to dinner"  with Rand Paul and Joe Biden.

Now it's a frame-by-frame analysis of Madonna falling, along with a panel to discuss her stage accident.

He is the #1 show on FOX, bigger than Megyn kelly.  Tells you what FOX viewers want. 

You  make it seem like he's sitting at home thinking about it.  If you think about it, it's actually kind of interesting he has the 1# show.  O'Reilly is on the right but he's not what you would consider a far right religious fanatic like a Huckabee.  I don't watch his show because he acts like a bully and blowhard. I don't want to listen to him yell.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
You  make it seem like he's sitting at home thinking about it.  If you think about it, it's actually kind of interesting he has the 1# show.  O'Reilly is on the right but he's not what you would consider a far right religious fanatic like a Huckabee.  I don't watch his show because he acts like a bully and blowhard. I don't want to listen to him yell.

I've listened to OReilly since, I dunno... 2005?  2006?    I like his show.  I don't always agree with him.  Some things I've notced about him -

He's insecure - he always tries to interject anything he's done relevant to the guest, he always adds "me too!" or "we agree on that" and "That's exactly what I'd do".

He's angry - he's easily annoyable and usually only chooses guests he can easily control.

He's predictable - he introduces an idea then reinforces it for 6 minutes.

He stretches things - You can tell when he's making it up as he goes... voice gets a little faster and higher pitch, he gets dramatic, and he does it to be THE authoritative voice at the table.  Nobody challenges him.

He is a bully - can't deny this.  Threatening to destory the reporter that wrote the story on him - it's all true. 

Overall, he's a fairly entertainin, egotistical A-hole.  It's cool, most people on TV are a-holes.  They have their vision and they want it done their way. 
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Archer77 on February 26, 2015, 05:59:12 PM
I've listened to OReilly since, I dunno... 2005?  2006?    I like his show.  I don't always agree with him.  Some things I've notced about him -

He's insecure - he always tries to interject anything he's done relevant to the guest, he always adds "me too!" or "we agree on that" and "That's exactly what I'd do".

He's angry - he's easily annoyable and usually only chooses guests he can easily control.

He's predictable - he introduces an idea then reinforces it for 6 minutes.

He stretches things - You can tell when he's making it up as he goes... voice gets a little faster and higher pitch, he gets dramatic, and he does it to be THE authoritative voice at the table.  Nobody challenges him.

He is a bully - can't deny this.  Threatening to destory the reporter that wrote the story on him - it's all true. 

Overall, he's a fairly entertainin, egotistical A-hole.  It's cool, most people on TV are a-holes.  They have their vision and they want it done their way. 

Even as I've moved away from the far left and toward the middle or even the right on some issues I still retain a level of aversion to Fox.  I'm sure O'Reilly is highly entertaining.  If I caught him on a day he we agree I might be able to tolerate his belligerent bullying but I would feel like I was taking side politically.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
Even as I've moved away from the far left and toward the middle or even the right on some issues I still retain a level of aversion to Fox.  I'm sure O'Reilly is highly entertaining.  If I caught him on a day he we agree I might be able to tolerate his belligerent bullying but I would feel like I was taking side politically.

he threatens people that disagree with him, or try to paint him in any other way than he likes.

he's a dick, but dicks make for great hosts.  "nice guys" in the middle don't please anyone.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2015, 08:32:48 PM
LA Riots.... One man arguing with only Bill - Bill was taunting him - and the man damaging one of the cameras, then they flagged down a cop car to press charges... suddenly turned into: “concrete was raining down on us” and “we were attacked by protesters” and "saved by a Police rescue".


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/another-shoe-drops-bill-oreillys-ex-colleagues-call-his-l-a-riot-stories-completely-ficticious/

Fox News host, whose stories of past reporting exploits are under renewed scrutiny, claimed ‘we were attacked by protesters’ when covering the 1992 riots

Former colleagues of Bill O’Reilly, the Fox News host whose tales of past reporting exploits are facing renewed scrutiny, have disputed his account of surviving a bombardment of bricks and rocks while covering the 1992 riots in Los Angeles.

Six people who covered the riots with O’Reilly in California for Inside Edition told the Guardian they did not recall an incident in which, as O’Reilly has claimed, “concrete was raining down on us” and “we were attacked by protesters”.

Several members of the team suggested that O’Reilly may instead be overstating a fracas involving one disgruntled Los Angeles resident, who smashed one of their cameras with a piece of rubble.

Inside Edition colleagues from the time who were in Los Angeles with O’Reilly — reporters Bonnie Strauss, Tony Cox and Rick Kirkham, and crew members Theresa McKeown, Bob McCall and Neil Antin — told the Guardian that they did not recall such an incident.

Kirkham, the show’s lead reporter on the riots, was adamant that it did not take place. “It didn’t happen,” he said. “If it did, how come none of the rest of us remember it?”

A passing police car was flagged down. After an officer called for backup, several more officers eventually arrived. Crew members recalled that before this, O’Reilly had been hauled inside one of the team’s vehicles by a colleague. “It wasn’t a police rescue,” said Kirkham.

Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2015, 08:07:00 AM
  :D :D :D :D :D :D did I tell you I saw the Hindenburg crash



Fox: O'Reilly Didn't See Bombings In Ireland, But He Saw Photos Of Them

Fox News issued a clarification on Friday on behalf of its star host Bill O'Reilly, saying that he said he'd "seen" bombings in Northern Ireland because police showed him photos of them.


The Washington Post spotted a passage in O'Reilly's 2013 book, "Keep It Pithy," in which he described seeing lethal bombings in Northern Ireland.

“I've seen soldiers gun down unarmed civilians in Latin America, Irish terrorists kill and maim their fellow citizens in Belfast with bombs," O'Reilly wrote.

A Fox spokesperson told the Washington Post that O’Reilly did not witness any bombings or injuries in Northern Ireland but was simply shown photos by police officers.

The Northern Ireland clarification marks the second time this has happened: On Wednesday, O'Reilly told Mediaite that when he repeatedly said he had seen nuns "get shot" in El Salvador, he was referring to "images" he had seen.

As for the soldiers gunning down civilians in Latin America, O'Reilly has dismissed a report by Mother Jones and comments by former colleagues at CBS that questioned his tales of witnessing violence in Argentina.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2015, 08:12:39 AM
  :D :D :D :D :D :D did I tell you I saw the Hindenburg crash
fox: O'Reilly Didn't See Bombings In Ireland, But He Saw Photos Of Them

Fox News issued a clarification on Friday on behalf of its star host Bill O'Reilly, saying that he said he'd "seen" bombings in Northern Ireland because police showed him photos of them.


The Washington Post spotted a passage in O'Reilly's 2013 book, "Keep It Pithy," in which he described seeing lethal bombings in Northern Ireland.

“I've seen soldiers gun down unarmed civilians in Latin America, Irish terrorists kill and maim their fellow citizens in Belfast with bombs," O'Reilly wrote.

A Fox spokesperson told the Washington Post that O’Reilly did not witness any bombings or injuries in Northern Ireland but was simply shown photos by police officers.

The Northern Ireland clarification marks the second time this has happened: On Wednesday, O'Reilly told Mediaite that when he repeatedly said he had seen nuns "get shot" in El Salvador, he was referring to "images" he had seen.

As for the soldiers gunning down civilians in Latin America, O'Reilly has dismissed a report by Mother Jones and comments by former colleagues at CBS that questioned his tales of witnessing violence in Argentina.


Bill OReilly can no longer be classified as a journalist.   Now, he's a storyteller.  Now he's an entertainer.  On the #1 show on the #1 "news" network, he's the top voice.  That's interesting. 

The #1 newsman on the #1 news network isn't a news man, he isn't a journalist - he's an entertainment figure that justifies mixing in fact and fiction (without telling the listener which is which).   

Says a lot about the FOX network.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2015, 08:13:13 AM
Bill OReilly can no longer be classified as a journalist.   Now, he's a storyteller.  Now he's an entertainer.  On the #1 show on the #1 "news" network, he's the top voice.  That's interesting. 

The #1 newsman on the #1 news network isn't a news man, he isn't a journalist - he's an entertainment figure that justifies mixing in fact and fiction (without telling the listener which is which).   

Says a lot about the FOX network.


You are just learning this now?
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2015, 08:17:17 AM

You are just learning this now?

Yes, I am.   I know he's an entertainer, but I never expected Bill OReilly to LIE on the air - and now we're accepting FOX' own admission that mixing fact/fiction, and not telling viewers, is just part of OReilly's daily protocol.   Now I'm hearing any FOX voice can just mix in "I witnessed..." with "I saw pictures of..." and that's a-okay with the network!

So when Megyn Kelly gets caught lying about something, or Shep comes out with the next bombshell watergate, we don't know what's truth and what's "made up for entertainment purposes".   

FOX fuckked up bigtime in this case, by smiling and patting OReilly on the back for getting caught in nearly a dozen major wartime credibility lies.   They screwed up.  Cause now ALL of their people are painted with the same brush - They can lie to viewers for decades, and even mock others who lack the same made-up experience... and FOX will support them.  Wait til Megyn Kelly asks Michelle OBama why michelle didn't spend 20 years in the Navy seals like Megyn Kelly did lol.... "Oh, but I saw it in pictures..."

FOX screwed up.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2015, 10:17:45 AM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/03/cnn-publishes-oreilly-tape-203331.html?cmpid=sf

CNN just published the Audio of OReilly saying he's heading down to FL to investigate the JFK-related suicide.

huge international news... oreilly claimed for years that he was outside the house and heard the shot.

It's getting silly, the amount of outright proven lies that Bill has told.   This particular one is huge, absolutely huge.

"Vindicated"  LOL
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2015, 10:45:20 AM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/03/cnn-publishes-oreilly-tape-203331.html?cmpid=sf

CNN just published the Audio of OReilly saying he's heading down to FL to investigate the JFK-related suicide.

huge international news... oreilly claimed for years that he was outside the house and heard the shot.

It's getting silly, the amount of outright proven lies that Bill has told.   This particular one is huge, absolutely huge.

"Vindicated"  LOL



"HEHEHEHEHEH"    ::)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2015, 10:56:52 AM
Ok.....unlike the Falklands crap...this is a lie. Now what......
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
Ok.....unlike the Falklands crap...this is a lie. Now what......

Major witness in the JFK assassination off's himself

Bill OReilly repeatedly claimed he was on the man's front porch and heard the shot.

Now, the CNN tapes show may times where Bill-O said he heard about the shooting, on the news, and hopped on a plane and arrived in FL the next day as an investigative reporter.

Lying about being present in a suicide with global ramifications?   Can't blame liberal word games on this one.  
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on May 18, 2015, 08:18:54 PM
Nightly News has been on the air for forty-five years.  It's a brand with a legacy that will continue after Williams. Whether true or not, it's attempted to project an air of integrity that Williams threatened by lying.  The O'Reilly Factor consists of one screaming Irishman and will die with O'Reilly.

disagree.   I think another FOX host could take over "THE FACTOR" and keep the same theme, format, and it could work.

Bill-O is the #1 show, on the #1 news network.  He is THE most credible voice, the most popular voice, on the most trusted news network.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2015, 08:02:46 PM
Looks like 3 major holes in the war stories of Bill OReilly. 

First, you hear multiple statements about his 3 near-death experiences in these warzones.
Then you see multiple videos/facts debunking his claims, down to "No US reporters were there" and "This incident was 1000 miles away, a year after the war ended". 

They were right to bounce Brian Williams after lying about the helicopter incident.  If Bill-O lied about 1, or 2, or 3 incidents...  ???

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war

(Go ahead and shit on the source if you're an idiot, if you have a brain, click the link and look at the evidence.  They've been building a case against him for 10 days and have done their research... you see him on FOX claiming things that may not have happened)
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: The Ugly on September 03, 2015, 08:25:40 PM
disagree.   I think another FOX host could take over "THE FACTOR" and keep the same theme, format, and it could work.

Bill-O is the #1 show, on the #1 news network.  He is THE most credible voice, the most popular voice, on the most trusted news network.

Eh, not so credible, turns out. Wonder why nothing's come of it.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: chadstallion on September 04, 2015, 12:30:07 PM
Eh, not so credible, turns out. Wonder why nothing's come of it.
because it's Fox News.
we expect things like this all the time; and we are never disappointed.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: The Ugly on September 04, 2015, 05:17:21 PM
because it's Fox News.
we expect things like this all the time; and we are never disappointed.

Why didn't the other networks press it, I'm wondering. Of course Fox isn't gonna pursue it.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: chadstallion on September 05, 2015, 06:13:56 AM
Why didn't the other networks press it, I'm wondering. Of course Fox isn't gonna pursue it.
it was covered on MSNBC but the major networks probably don't think any cable news channel is worthy of comment.
Title: Re: Bill-O may have his own Brian Williams Problem
Post by: 240 is Back on September 16, 2015, 07:24:45 AM
Bill-O to appear on 'The League" this week.   Nice.