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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: kyomu on April 05, 2009, 03:20:01 PM
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I will give up to the challenge to those juicers.
I really cant catch up with their hardness.
And I dont have enough genetic too.
But, I believe, some of you natural guys who has superior genetic than me can beat those juicers one day.
Humans dream will never end.
We are the great life which own the super power itself without any chemical help.
I hope that somebody will show that and prove it some day.
Here is the pic of today.
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Were those guys on the sauce Kyomu?
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Glad you finally figured it out. You and most people will never beat a juicer.
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you look good up there man.
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Glad you finally figured it out. You and most people will never beat a juicer.
Read well what i wrote.
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looking great kyomu, you hold your own
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you look good up there man.
Thanx as usual.
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Read well what i wrote.
I understand what you wrote and it's good you finally realized this.
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I understand what you wrote and it's good you finally realized this.
I still think that some natural who has superior genetic can beat these guys.
If I had genetic like Go4it or TA, the things may change.
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I still think that some natural who has superior genetic can beat these guys.
If I had genetic like Go4it or TA, the things may change.
I don't think a natural will ever have a chance against the chemically enhanced, good job trying though, especially at your age.
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way better this time, abs looking great and legs, sadly the juicers thickness is superior.
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way better this time, abs looking great and legs, sadly the juicers thickness is superior.
Something a natural will never attain unless they are fat.
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Something a natural will never attain unless they are fat.
exactly.
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I don't think a natural will ever have a chance against the chemically enhanced, good job trying though, especially at your age.
Thanx. SInce I did 100% efforts, I can quit competing with good satisfaction. All of my friends gave me great props to me.
I dont say never. But, I may not compete again all my life.
I am really satified and i went to hard rock cafe and exploded!
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Thanx. SInce I did 100% efforts, I can quit competing with good satisfaction. All of my friends gave me great props to me.
I dont say never. But, I may not compete again all my life.
I am really satified and i went to hard rock cafe and exploded!
lol i was in that very same hard rock cafe in barca 3 years ago.
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way better this time, abs looking great and legs, sadly the juicers thickness is superior.
More than thickness,hardness was the most outstanding point.
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lol i was in that very same hard rock cafe in barca 3 years ago.
;D ;D
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Pic after the show.
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nothing to be ashamed of man, you look great.
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nothing to be ashamed of man, you look great.
+1 good job!!
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Pic after the show.
Very impressive.
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kyomu do you ever goes to the Baghdad club?
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be proud of yourself Kyomu...you looked fantastic
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nothing to be ashamed of man, you look great.
Thanx.
But I wanted to give some dreams to you guys.... sorry..
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Very impressive.
Thanks.
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who cares, just take steroids, are you hoping to get some "clean" award???
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be proud of yourself Kyomu...you looked fantastic
Thanx.
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who cares, just take steroids, are you hoping to get some "clean" award???
No. This quest was like a martialarts fighter trying to beat an animal like bear or lion.
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Kyomo,
You looked fucking great!!
Those juicers aren't even in your class, bro.
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Kyomo,
You looked fucking great!!
Those juicers aren't even in your class, bro.
thanx!
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more
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ignorant to not even answer me
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ignorant to not even answer me
I gave you an answer. Looking back well.
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Do you lift weights?
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I gave you an answer. Looking back well.
you didn't answer my question on the first page of the thread
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Do you lift weights?
I try. But I am not lookin huge like you. ;)
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you didn't answer my question on the first page of the thread
Ah sorry.
Its a famous show club In Las rambras.
I have never been there. But I heard many bachelor party people go.
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This is probably a stupid observation but it may have been more a posing issue than anything.
Did you get feedback from the judges?
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Props to you; takes one hell of an inner drive to accomplish what you have naturally and sticking to your beliefs.
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Ah sorry.
Its a famous show club In Las rambras.
I have never been there. But I heard many bachelor party people go.
thanks for the answer
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This is probably a stupid observation but it may have been more a posing issue than anything.
Did you get feedback from the judges?
Yes.
They are bad pics due to the bad camera skill of my friend.
Judges and many people say that my mass was not so bad.
But the hardness and muscle tone are way different from others.
In a word, i look softer than the others.
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Props to you; takes one hell of an inner drive to accomplish what you have naturally and sticking to your beliefs.
Thanx.
Hehe. Thats why i could diet down my fat. :)
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Yes.
They are bad pics due to the bad camera skill of my friend.
Judges and many people say that my mass was not so bad.
But the hardness and muscle tone are way different from others.
In a word, i look softer than the others.
Kyomu, were your competitors juicers?
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Kyomu, were your competitors juicers?
They use 1000euro for juices at least.
Not my opinion.
This is what they say.
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You looked great Kyomu. Congrats
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Well done that man.
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You still looked great, Kyomu. You held your own.....good job!
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what is your body fat % in those pics? this is good motivation for me to continue dieting.
looking back what was the hardest part for you?
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I will give up to the challenge to those juicers.
I really cant catch up with their hardness.
And I dont have enough genetic too.
But, I believe, some of you natural guys who has superior genetic than me can beat those juicers one day.
Humans dream will never end.
We are the great life which own the super power itself without any chemical help.
I hope that somebody will show that and prove it some day.
Here is the pic of today.
looking bodybuilder good kajomi
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i love you kyomu
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Kyomu you look really good ,but you are soft even for natural standards :-\ (no bashing)
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You look good. Holding muscle while dieting down natural is really tough towards the end. You'd look a million times better to train natural and juice 6 weeks before the show, but it shows a lot for you to stick to being natural. If you just took a few D-Bol tablets a day, these guys beside you would get blown away.
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Hey brother...you look like you were hold'n your own...good job!!
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Pic after the show.
Hey man, congrats on the show, you look alot leaner here then the first contest, one hell of a transformation Kyomu!
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Kyomu you look really good ,but you are soft even for natural standards :-\ (no bashing)
I stated about it before also. Highly agreed.
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what is your body fat % in those pics? this is good motivation for me to continue dieting.
looking back what was the hardest part for you?
Hardest part was shedding the stturburn bodyfat area like lower abs fat which i didnt have when i was young.
I had to go with twice cardio of 30mins with good intensity.
I dont have any clue about my fat %.
According to Paco,fat % is the stupid thing to mention and just watching the mirror and reality to dial in is the important thing.
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Looking great kyomu, you are brave to compete against steroids users and you really hold your own with them.. :)
What was your weight? I am planning to enter my first competition on this coming May. However, ALL Competitors are on the juice so I will be going through the same thing as you did. :-\
Now I am 74 Kg and my conditions is great and I am planning to bring my weight down to 70 Kg (where my condition will be most probably spot on) and compete at the light weight. I hope to make the top 3 .. ;)
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[color=blue]Looking great kyomu, you are brave to compete against steroids users and you really hold your own with them.. :)
What was your weight? I am planning to enter my first competition on this coming May. However, ALL Competitors are on the juice so I will be going through the same thing as you did. :-\
Now I am 74 Kg and my conditions is great and I am planning to bring my weight down to 70 Kg (where my condition will be most probably spot on) and compete at the light weight. I hope to make the top 3 .. ;)[/color]
My weight was 77kg.
Thats really great to hear your challenging against juicers with your natural state.
And I really hope you to make top 3!
If you can, please post your pic too.
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Hey man, congrats on the show, you look alot leaner here then the first contest, one hell of a transformation Kyomu!
Uuhhh, If I was hard like you.... :-\
I want You to enter some juicers contest with being natural and make a revenge for me.
I think you can do it with your hardness. Just work on your mass and the job will be done.
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Hardest part was shedding the stturburn bodyfat area like lower abs fat which i didnt have when i was young.
I had to go with twice cardio of 30mins with good intensity.
I dont have any clue about my fat %.
According to Paco,fat % is the stupid thing to mention and just watching the mirror and reality to dial in is the important thing.
how low did you go with carbs?
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My weight was 77kg.
Thats really great to hear your challenging against juicers with your natural state.
And I really hope you to make top 3!
If you can, please post your pic too.
These are some pictures I took them last year on June28,2008 at the last day of my diet on during that period. ( I was 70 Kg in the pics) :)
Now I have been dieting for 2 months and still one more month to go I am already 74 Kg with almost the same condition I had with 70Kg last year!! So this time I will more condition than that at the same weight ;)
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how low did you go with carbs?
In the lowest term, Only Onion and lettuce all day
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In the lowest term, Only Onion and lettuce all day
:o :o dang...for how long? had you already lost the majority of fat when u did that?
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These are some pictures I took them last year on June28,2008 at the last day of my diet on during that period. ( I was 70 Kg in the pics) :)
Now I have been dieting for 2 months and still one more month to go I am already 74 Kg with almost the same condition I had with 70Kg last year!! So this time I will more condition than that at the same weight ;)
Thats good to hear it.
If you are in same condition with this and 74kg. Thats really good to go 70kg to dial your glute and ham area in.
And the very good point is that you have already your quads with deep cut.
When you are 70kg,your quads will be grany hard.
Good luck!
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:o :o dang...for how long? had you already lost the majority of fat when u did that?
almost 2 weeks and Yes, I had already lost the majority of fat before starting this.
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Thats good to hear it.
If you are in same condition with this and 74kg. Thats really good to go 70kg to dial your glute and ham area in.
And the very good point is that you have already your quads with deep cut.
When you are 70kg,your quads will be grany hard.
Good luck!
The Glutes and hams are the most difficult area (at least for me) to shed the fat off from. :-\
I hope to bring them up this time ;D
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The Glutes and hams are the most difficult area (at least for me) to shed the fat off from. :-\
I hope to bring them up this time ;D
Judging from the pic,4kg is enough to titen up glutes area.
Just make sure your enough protein intake.
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almost 2 weeks and Yes, I had already lost the majority of fat before starting this.
How low before you started that ?
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Judging from the pic,4kg is enough to titen up glutes area.
Just make sure your enough protein intake.
Now I eat about 170 grams of protein daily (only from food I don’t take protein shake)
And about 70 grams of carbs (only from fruits and salad)
And about 15 grams of fat (meat, flaxseed oil & fish oil)
I also take 10 grams of glutamine daily and 10 grams of Amino Acid daily.
Everything is running smoothly with me and my strength still pretty good. However, I miss the taste of Pizza and Donates :'(
More 30 days to go :P
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great job,bro
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My weight was 77kg.
Thats really great to hear your challenging against juicers with your natural state.
And I really hope you to make top 3!
If you can, please post your pic too.
holy crap...170lbs... :o :o :o :o
that was contest shape, so give another 10-15lbs for not dieting and doing cardio as much and that would be mean that an every day natty would have to be 185-190 to look lean and built. :'( :'( :'(
damn it, which means that I have even more weight to lose.
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Good job, kyomu
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holy crap...170lbs... :o :o :o :o
that was contest shape, so give another 10-15lbs for not dieting and doing cardio as much and that would be mean that an every day natty would have to be 185-190 to look lean and built. :'( :'( :'(
damn it, which means that I have even more weight to lose.
Dont persist in weight.
Its a stupid concept.
The weight vary a lot from one to another. Look, Flex Wheeler was always around 100kg and looked way bigger than another due to his muscle tone and tiny waist. And if you have small bone and 80kg, you carry more muscle than another 80kg with big bone.
You want to be look bigger and lighter or smaller and heavier...think about it.
If you want to be lean for the beach, you dont need to go down that much.
In my case,i look still lean with 84kg.
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How low before you started that ?
100g of rice daily.
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great job,bro
Thanx master. 8)
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MM pose after contest
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good job bro.hard to tell fully from pics,legs needed more seperation and tighter condition compared to your upperbody,legs have good size esp tear drops.genetically i think that your upper body leans out faster than legs,so if u kept going esp clean to dry out legs ,your upper bosy would have really suffered.like i said u look great and really turned it around these 6 months or so,,props.
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Pic after the show.
Kyomu: I bust your balls because of your relationship with Paco. But you got into great shape for your show. Well done.
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good job bro.hard to tell fully from pics,legs needed more seperation and tighter condition compared to your upperbody,legs have good size esp tear drops.genetically i think that your upper body leans out faster than legs,so if u kept going esp clean to dry out legs ,your upper bosy would have really suffered.like i said u look great and really turned it around these 6 months or so,,props.
Good analysis.
You are totally right. I was really suffering from drying my lower body. Its a genetically problem.
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Kyomu: I bust your balls because of your relationship with Paco. But you got into great shape for your show. Well done.
Thanx for your compliment.
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Pic after the show.
great job man, astonishing how much you changed in that least week!
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100g of rice daily.
for the entire diet? that's only 70g carbs...
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great job man, astonishing how much you changed in that least week!
Thanx for your call and support as usual.
In this level of bodyfat, i can improve week by week. But honestly i felt the limit.
Cus 2 competitors was harder than me in spite of having more fat than me.
That is saying : Even I get in less bodyfat, i cant beat them.
Actualy, even worse. Cus more diet down, more dead muscle(Soft muscle).
Thats why we decided not to compete more and eat whatever i want. But, i want to keep my shape for the upcoming exhibition as i stated.
I am really contented this time. Cus i dont look that bad next to them.
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for the entire diet? that's only 70g carbs...
Yes. But with onion and lettuce.
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Yes. But with onion and lettuce.
you think you would be harder with more carbs?
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you think you would be harder with more carbs?
Last three week of this contest, I was eating enough carbs to fulfill my muscle.
Hardness they(juicers) carry is another dimention. Its a hormonal thing.
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Thanx for your call and support as usual.
In this level of bodyfat, i can improve week by week. But honestly i felt the limit.
Cus 2 competitors was harder than me in spite of having more fat than me.
That is saying : Even I get in less bodyfat, i cant beat them.
Actualy, even worse. Cus more diet down, more dead muscle(Soft muscle).
Thats why we decided not to compete more and eat whatever i want. But, i want to keep my shape for the upcoming exhibition as i stated.
I am really contented this time. Cus i dont look that bad next to them.
I will ask you for diet infos.
;D ;D
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Real bodybuilding is more exciting than natural bodybuilding.
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how old are you? just take the steroids.. getting on test will actually make you look and feel better.
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how old are you? just take the steroids.. getting on test will actually make you look and feel better.
I am 39 years old.
I have seen many many many many many pro and ama contests plus I have competed 9 shows in my life.
Using steroid to be 100kg shredded? For what?
If I can be Mr.O, maybe.
I dont want sticking up the needles to my ass for my beloved hobby. I am just enjoying what i am doing unlike others who worry about their health constantly and they shrink helplessly when they quit it and becoming the slave of the abuse because of it....AND THEY ARE AMATEUR OR 3rd tier PROS WHO DONT MAKE ANY MONEY AND NOBODY KNOWS THEM.
Paco always tell me that its inteligent choice to be a natty if you are not a pro.
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Paco always tell me that its inteligent choice to be a natty if you are not a pro.
Tha'ts true and and that's how it should be,but obviously you are not natty only if you are a pro,also if you want to become one,and that means that you have to take steroids even at the lowest level.
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I am 39 years old.
forget about competing.. or bodybuilding. hrt dose of test would improve the general quality of your life.
you're looking at bad examples.. pros and abusers. there are many other people on the planet.. who use these hormones to live a fuller life.. sex life too.
these hormones work wonders for people.. but looking at you.. you probably dont need to worry about it.
you seem to have good hormone levels for your age and you look great. maybe in another 10 years you can supplement.
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MM pose after contest
the shaved head is not a good look man, you look like a shaolin monk or somthing lmao. go back to your old style lol.
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/m_1be0f8394da278ff73cd28ca35b5f646.jpg)
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forget about competing.. or bodybuilding. hrt dose of test would improve the general quality of your life.
you're looking at bad examples.. pros and abusers. there are many other people on the planet.. who use these hormones to live a fuller life.. sex life too.
these hormones work wonders for people.. but looking at you.. you probably dont need to worry about it.
you seem to have good hormone levels for your age and you look great. maybe in another 10 years you can supplement.
Thanx for your comliment.
But, I bascaly i do what i want. And I am always interested in the hidden power of humanbeing and the truth.
And I am not interested in the longevity itself. Even i can live longer, the quality of life is important. That quality of life means the "quest" for me.
Without it, i can die tomorrow or even now.
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the shaved head is not a good look man, you look like a shaolin monk or somthing lmao. go back to your old style lol.
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/m_1be0f8394da278ff73cd28ca35b5f646.jpg)
I dont want to brag about myself. But those days of stud srounded by chics has gone from my life. I lived that age with satisfaction and i left nothing there.
Now I have just changed my style and love this quiet life.
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Tha'ts true and and that's how it should be,but obviously you are not natty only if you are a pro,also if you want to become one,and that means that you have to take steroids even at the lowest level.
Thats a great compliment for me.
Everytime somebody say that i am not natural. That explains that i am doing really well.
Thanx again.
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I dont want to brag about myself. But those days of stud srounded by chics has gone from my life. I lived that age with satisfaction and i left nothing there.
Now I have just changed my style and love this quiet life.
;D ;D ;D
That's the spirit!
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Thats a great compliment for me.
Everytime somebody say that i am not natural. That explains that i am doing really well.
Thanx again.
No man u didn't understand ,i say that yeah you are natural i believe that for sure,and congrats for being natural and competing aganist juicers.
but you said that paco said that the intelligent choice is to be natty if you are not a pro. And what i said is that one person who "wants" to become a pro can't be natural, and everyone that wants to become a pro start right at the bottom ,taking steroids to be competitive even at the lowest level. And some make it to the pros,a lot not,but nobody knows who will make it at the begining,an the begining it's local shows.
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No man u didn't understand ,i say that yeah you are natural i believe that for sure,and congrats for being natural and competing aganist juicers.
but you said that paco said that the intelligent choice is to be natty if you are not a pro. And what i said is that one person who "wants" to become a pro can't be natural, and everyone that wants to become a pro start right at the bottom ,taking steroids to be competitive even at the lowest level. And some make it to the pros,a lot not,but nobody knows who will make it at the begining,an the begining it's local shows.
Oh! Sorry! I misunderstood. :-[
Highly agreed with what you say.
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;D ;D ;D
That's the spirit!
Man, the life is always spiritual even when i was a stud.
Just i am satified with the stud life and i dont need it anymore.
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Man, the life is always spiritual even when i was a stud.
Just i am satified with the stud life and i dont need it anymore.
same here. ;D
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Man, the life is always spiritual even when i was a stud.
Just i am satified with the stud life and i dont need it anymore.
I love your posts, man. Looking stellar.
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I love your posts, man. Looking stellar.
If you feel happy with my post, i am happy too.
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If you feel happy with my post, i am happy too.
good job kyomu, samurai spirit 8)
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If you feel happy with my post, i am happy too.
If you are happy because he is happy, i am happy too.
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If you are happy because he is happy, i am happy too.
Just stfu and train, eat and fvck(but be careful....you know what i mean.. ;D)!
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Just stfu and train, eat and fvck(but be careful....you know what i mean.. ;D)!
Oh in that instant i don't have any problems coming towards me. ;D ;D ;D
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Just stfu and train, eat and fvck(but be careful....you know what i mean.. ;D)!
good advice for Vince Goodrum :-X
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good advice for Vince Goodrum :-X
the first part would be a good advice for you. ;D ;D
;)
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Oh in that instant i don't have any problems coming towards me. ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D
奥さんの体調はどう？大丈夫？
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;D ;D
奥さんの体調はどう？大丈夫？
うん、元気だよ。
今日ちょっと心配があったけど、大丈夫だった。今アレルギーの時期になるのに飲む薬はすごく気をつけないといけない。そのためにウェブサイトがあって、薬は二人に大丈夫かどうかなどが分かる。
それで、男の子だぜ！
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うん、元気だよ。
今日ちょっと心配があったけど、大丈夫だった。今アレルギーの時期になるのに飲む薬はすごく気をつけないといけない。そのためにウェブサイトがあって、薬は二人に大丈夫かどうかなどが分かる。
それで、男の子だぜ！
??? thanks, i like you guys too :)
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うん、元気だよ。
今日ちょっと心配があったけど、大丈夫だった。今アレルギーの時期になるのに飲む薬はすごく気をつけないといけない。そのためにウェブサイトがあって、薬は二人に大丈夫かどうかなどが分かる。
それで、男の子だぜ！
おお！一緒にトレーニングとかナンパとかすんのかな？ ;D
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??? thanks, i like you guys too :)
Nah! Dont worry. We are not talking about you. ;)
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Nah! Dont worry. We are not talking about you. ;)
lol i know
i bet it's hard as hell to learn how to write like that :D
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??? thanks, i like you guys too :)
we like you too! :-* :-*
lol i know
i bet it's hard as hell to learn how to write like that :D
Just a bit. ;D ;D
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おお！一緒にトレーニングとかナンパとかすんのかな？ ;D
lol, やっぱり一緒にスポーツなどするのはいいね、女の子と一緒でも出来るよね。
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lol, やっぱり一緒にスポーツなどするのはいいね、女の子と一緒でも出来るよね。
まあでも息子とナンパするオヤジなんてのは、クレヨンしんちゃんのオヤジくらい
だろうけどな、、
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まあでも息子とナンパするオヤジなんてのは、クレヨンしんちゃんのオヤジくらい
だろうけどな、、
lmao, クレヨンしんちゃんって何歳だっけ？５～６歳だろう？
すごく面白いけどね、あれ。
笑
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MM pose after contest
Wow, you look incredible!
Why are you running down on your genetics, though? Very few naturals here have your taper and lower-quadriceps thickness. In fact, unless I'm forgetting someone, I'd say you have the best thighs of any natural male BBer here, Kyomu. Daddywaddy had some very big legs at his peak, but your genetic shape is actually a strong point, not a weakness!
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私 金魚 煙草 東京
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私 金魚 煙草 東京
"I'm goldfish smoking in Tokyo?"
LMAO
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Wow, you look incredible!
Why are you running down on your genetics, though? Very few naturals here have your taper and lower-quadriceps thickness. In fact, unless I'm forgetting someone, I'd say you have the best thighs of any natural male BBer here, Kyomu. Daddywaddy had some very big legs at his peak, but your genetic shape is actually a strong point, not a weakness!
Thanx for your compliment.
As you say,my body structure is really good. But, I am geneticaly soft bodybuilder like Jay Cutler or Melvin Anthony.
I think Jay might look like me if he dont juice.
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"I'm goldfish smoking in Tokyo?"
LMAO
hahahahahaha ;D
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hahahahahaha ;D
Congratulations on your stars, kyomu!!
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lmao, クレヨンしんちゃんって何歳だっけ？５～６歳だろう？
すごく面白いけどね、あれ。
笑
Never ceases to amaze... :o
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Congratulations on your stars, kyomu!!
Wew I didnt notice that.
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Never ceases to amaze... :o
It took me 4 hours to write that. ;D
Wew I didnt notice that.
There was a petition for you on the Question and Complaints board! You're a competitor, so you get blue stars!
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It took me 4 hours to write that. ;D
There was a petition for you on the Question and Complaints board! You're a competitor, so you get blue stars!
Oh really, I will go and see it now.
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It took me 4 hours to write that. ;D
There was a petition for you on the Question and Complaints board! You're a competitor, so you get blue stars!
AMAZING...
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AMAZING...
It will be very nice to see you one day too.
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AMAZING...
I hope you don't believe that it took me 4 hours. ;D ;D
It will be very nice to see you one day too.
I bet you two guys would have a great discussion. :o
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I hope you don't believe that it took me 4 hours. ;D ;D
I bet you two guys would have a great discussion. :o
Thats why i want to meet him. ;D
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I still think that some natural who has superior genetic can beat these guys.
If I had genetic like Go4it or TA, the things may change.
You've got a good structure IMO. Just look a little soft. I'm 110% natural and get quite a bit leaner than that, but I also don't have your size. Structure looks good though. Don't give up man. Part of my inspiration is knowing I do better than most saucers out there. Not ALL. I said most. I think you have more potential than both the guys you listed really. You just haven't been as lean as them.