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« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2016, 11:48:00 AM »
I've thought about it, and it's difficult to imagine some context which could say the comment wasn't racist.

As much as I dislike and distrust Obama, I don't understand what Bill could have meant, otherwise.  Was he saying Obama didn't have the "right" to run, at least in the face of Hilary, or what?

I do think that's what he was trying to convey.....that Obama wasn't ready for the big leagues yet....and that how dare he run against Hillary.....but he said the comment in a way that sounded like Obama was an old time baggage handler who couldn't get any other job at the time

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« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2016, 11:50:50 AM »
Given all that, what could it be to cause African-Americans to back Hilary over Sanders?  Do they enjoy shooting themselves in the foot?

Theres not a lot of choice in the Democratic party at the moment.....Most older black folk have never heard of Sanders...I didn't either until he started running....So it appears to be for most liberal voters its Hillary or bust

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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2016, 11:54:18 AM »
And yeah, I remember all that, Andre.  Black women were the last hold-outs for Hilary, but they gradually switched over to Obama, too.

\\I remember as well......Obama was considered an upstart and blacks did not know him well at all....I had never heard of him.....Hillary had the black vote in her pocket and when Bill made that comment combined with Hillary's 3 am phone call commercials concerning Obama (which questioned his competence) that's when blacks went to Barack.

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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2016, 12:07:37 PM »
They hadn't heard of Obama at first, but quickly jumped aboard when they did.  They didn't know of Bernie at first, either, but they ain't jumping aboard (that I'm aware), but favoring Hilary, instead.

Doesn't that mean African-Americans voted for Obama due to his skin color?

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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #104 on: January 16, 2016, 12:23:16 PM »
Theres not a lot of choice in the Democratic party at the moment.....Most older black folk have never heard of Sanders...I didn't either until he started running....So it appears to be for most liberal voters its Hillary or bust

How have you not heard of Sanders...or Obama. He gave the keynote address in 2004. He used BS Chicago tactics against Ryan to get his senate seat. This is why you loose here. You have not done your homework. You "destroy" nothing. Your points are weak demo playbook talking points and when that doesn't work you cry racism. You are a typical uninformed douchbag lib....
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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2016, 12:32:54 PM »
They hadn't heard of Obama at first, but quickly jumped aboard when they did.  They didn't know of Bernie at first, either, but they ain't jumping aboard (that I'm aware), but favoring Hilary, instead.

Doesn't that mean African-Americans voted for Obama due to his skin color?

The phone call is just something to point your finger at for people like andre.  They voted for him once they found out a viable black person was running.  See my last post on the previous page.  A large population of blacks don't keep up with politicos, and as such didn't know about obama.  Once they were aware of him, they were on his side.  I would even say most of them that voted for him didn't even know about bill Clinton's comments.  In fact, I definitely don't think the record black participation had anything to do with this comment.   They voted black plain and simple.  

Any insinuation that it was a comment by bill Clinton is a diversion from the blatant racism by blacks in this country.  And to be fair, I do understand having a sense of pride about the potential first real black president.  So in that sense, if someone were to be familiar with politics, understand his aspirations and vote for him because he was black, that would be great and inderstandable.  

That isn't what happened.  Every single black, plenty that give no care about politics and have never voted before, went and voted for a black man




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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2016, 12:47:36 PM »
They thought....or assumed that they would get a better deal with a black guy then with Hilary. They trusted Bill but as we see even now, nobody trusts Hil. Blacks, much like this idiot, did not do their homework. This was not a black activist, this was a socialist activist rooted in anti-American ideology. Blacks were and are a useful group of idiots that the dem base abuses to maintain power. They can't see that handouts and big government harm them far more then some 200 year old battleflag and a few redneck kkk members ever will.
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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #107 on: January 16, 2016, 01:47:50 PM »
Can't say it was 100% because of skin color, obviously, because they would have voted Alan Keyes when he ran, or they would be behind Carson, etc.

But to look at the situation, I'd say people were using that as their tipping point.  His skin color made the difference.

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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #108 on: January 16, 2016, 01:51:34 PM »
Can't say it was 100% because of skin color, obviously, because they would have voted Alan Keyes when he ran, or they would be behind Carson, etc.

But to look at the situation, I'd say people were using that as their tipping point.  His skin color made the difference.

Notice I said "viable" black candidate.   For all the criticism I see obama take, I've never said he was unqualified to be President

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Re: THE TOTAL ABSOLUTE NO BULLSHIT FINAL DESTRUCTION OF THE OBAMA HATERS..
« Reply #109 on: January 16, 2016, 01:58:11 PM »
Notice I said "viable" black candidate.   For all the criticism I see obama take, I've never said he was unqualified to be President

He's been a real boob, I'll say that.

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« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2016, 07:19:56 PM »
How have you not heard of Sanders...or Obama. He gave the keynote address in 2004. He used BS Chicago tactics against Ryan to get his senate seat. This is why you loose here. You have not done your homework. You "destroy" nothing. Your points are weak demo playbook talking points and when that doesn't work you cry racism. You are a typical uninformed douchbag lib....

Dude..you are such a phony, its insane....NO ONE knew who the hell Sanders was when he announced he was running.....he didn't have a national profile and neither did Obama when he ran.......you are wrong all the fucking time and I'm tired of arguing with dickheads like you who are all emotion and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.....you can't tell me you knew who Bernie was when he announced.....

You're becoming another ignorant guy that I'm tired of talking to.....