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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Hulkster on October 01, 2006, 06:31:58 AM
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Was Jay's win good for the sport?
or did it set us back to a "blockier, less shapely" era?
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0369.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=83818;image)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0365.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0347.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy175.jpg)
I have always felt that Jay lacked the shapely qualities that guys like Ronnie, Flex, Victor and Shawn have.
This is part of why I have never really been partial to Yates' physique also.
Jay has good quads, but even at the show last night, his thigh sweep is nowhere near what it once was.
Is this a good direction in terms of qualities that a Mr. O should have?
I am not necessarily saying that ronnie deserved to win last night - he was soft in many areas except his arms from the front, and injured to boot.
I just hope someone like Vic wins it next year..he has that really shapely look to his muscles that I am partial to.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97800.0;attach=106375;image)
ronnie used to have it, but not last night.
Personal preferences to phyisques aside, Jay deserves congratulations..
based on the pics, he beat ronnie fairly.
ronnie's arms looked really good from the front, but other than that, he was not as good as last year, not by a long shot.
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/655/Men/IMG_8426.jpg)
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/730/Men/RH9K3388.jpg)
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as you can see, he lacked the details of 2005
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Ronnie is no more.. Even if he wins again, it will ruin the sport
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come on now, ronnie is blocky too, yeah at one time he had great shape, in his prime jay can't touch him but ronnie is over the hill in bodybuilding
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based on the pics, he beat ronnie fairly.
There we have it folks. Even Ronnies nr. 1 fan admits defeat
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Was Jay's win good for the sport?
or did it set us back to a "blockier, less shapely" era?
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0369.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=83818;image)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0365.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0347.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy175.jpg)
I have always felt that Jay lacked the shapely qualities that guys like Ronnie, Flex, Victor and Shawn have.
This is part of why I have never really been partial to Yates' physique also.
Jay has good quads, but even at the show last night, his thigh sweep is nowhere near what it once was.
Is this a good direction in terms of qualities that a Mr. O should have?
I am not necessarily saying that ronnie deserved to win last night - he was soft in many areas except his arms from the front, and injured to boot.
I just hope someone like Vic wins it next year..he has that really shapely look to his muscles that I am partial to.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97800.0;attach=106375;image)
ronnie used to have it, but not last night.
Personal preferences to phyisques aside, Jay deserves congratulations..
based on the pics, he beat ronnie fairly.
ronnie's arms looked really good from the front, but other than that, he was not as good as last year, not by a long shot.
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/655/Men/IMG_8426.jpg)
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/730/Men/RH9K3388.jpg)
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as you can see, he lacked the details of 2005
Yeah i think it was good just from the point of veiw that ppl will stop sayin the O is fixed cus someone actually dethroned the champ. but a agree with u on the shape/symetry point it wud have been even better 4 the sport if say melvin or dex won
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Well it is quite nice that we now have a Mr Olympia that can actually pronounce a sentence
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It won't change it one bit...everyone said that Jay would be a better spoke person then Ronnie...Well who is he going to be speaking to? If Jay Leno gives Jay a skit, Jay to will look rediculous on TV...Jay could spit out shakespear and come off stupid just because of the size of the guy...
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but two things
Jay's leg sweep not as big as it used to?? Hes bigger than ever and so is the leg sweep.
Also how is Jay is not more blocky than Ronnie. Ronnies gut is disgusting.
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It won't change it one bit...everyone said that Jay would be a better spoke person then Ronnie...Well who is he going to be speaking to? If Jay Leno gives Jay a skit, Jay to will look rediculous on TV...Jay could spit out shakespear and come off stupid just because of the size of the guy...
Agreed, Jay will not be speaking with Leno but there are countless opportunities to be a role model for the sport. And with all respect, I like Ronnie, but he ain't the most smart guy in the world
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Well it is quite nice that we now have a Mr Olympia that can actually pronounce a sentence
;D
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It won't change it one bit...everyone said that Jay would be a better spoke person then Ronnie...Well who is he going to be speaking to? If Jay Leno gives Jay a skit, Jay to will look rediculous on TV...Jay could spit out shakespear and come off stupid just because of the size of the guy...
how could he do any worse than Ronnie?
remember this?
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bigbeachsm.jpg)
I think Jay will do great as a spokesperson for the sport.
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but will people be able to see his face over his chin? :)
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how could he do any worse than Ronnie?
remember this?
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bigbeachsm.jpg)
I think Jay will do great as a spokesperson for the sport.
That was hilarious!
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That was hilarious!
hilarious in a bad way
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He certainly won't be worse then Ronnie, i just believe that it doesn't matter how a person speaks....Tyson was the best thing for boxing in so many ways and he was worse then Ronnie...
I'm just saying that this is a "cult" sport and always will be no matter who is talking...
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It looks like someone stuck a needle in him and blew him up lke a beach toy.
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At least we have a Mr. O that can speak properly now.
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yup, so no one can hear him.
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Ronnie looked like crap yesterdayl. I have never seen him get up on stage and be outclassed easily from the back by at least three competitors. If anything, he should have gotten fourth. He got second on name alone. Even in 2001 where he was soft from the front; he dominated Cutler from the back. In fact, that version of Ronnie would have dominated this version of Cutler from the back also. It is sad that the years of abuse and likely arthritis or muscle tears have left a great champion a shell of his former self. He should hang up the trunks and forget about any comeback. His gut looked ridiculous last night. His back is worse than Tamali's. He can't even fully extend his left lat because of a tear or arthritic condition. Regardless, Jay deserved to rightfully beat him, but Vic should have beaten Jay. However, in this sport, you pay your dues and Vic will have to wait a year or so.
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His back is worse than Tamali's.
Meltdown
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At least we have a Mr. O that can speak properly now.
yeah...but he'll put everyone to sleep. at least ronnie was good for a laugh or two. yeah..buddy!
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I think Jay's win was good for the sport and to many of us who said if they really wanted to change they would have chosen Vic, Dex or Melvin as the winner. I'm think Jay's win, which is much deserved from the photos,was for many reasons. I feel that the IFBB wants to move towards the more aesthetic guys. Look at the placings, Gunther-Ruhl-Branch-Gustavo, though all off, are big and blocky and they finished behind several aesthetic guys like Melivin, Dex, Vic. If this truly is the way the IFFB is head, why not pick Jay. He is much more capable of changing his physique and being less blocky than Ronnie. Ronnie could never get small and look good. I think Jay can. Jay has the ability to play with the Dex/Vic/Melvin's etc, Ronnie can't. Too old, too injured, too fatigued.
Watch next year. You'll see a less blocky Jay and more aesthetic. Well, as aesthetic, as he can be. I think Jay won fair and square and feel good about the way things are headed. a good bunch on smaller, perfect shaped guys gunning for Jay than the mass monsters. He'll be a great ambassador to the sport, well spoken and quite possibly will be on Jay Leno comparing chins..
Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this but Jay does have the ability and age to play the smaller game.
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I think Jay's win was good for the sport and to many of us who said if they really wanted to change they would have chosen Vic, Dex or Melvin as the winner. I'm think Jay's win, which is much deserved from the photos,was for many reasons. I feel that the IFBB wants to move towards the more aesthetic guys. Look at the placings, Gunther-Ruhl-Branch-Gustavo, though all off, are big and blocky and they finished behind several aesthetic guys like Melivin, Dex, Vic. If this truly is the way the IFFB is head, why not pick Jay. He is much more capable of changing his physique and being less blocky than Ronnie. Ronnie could never get small and look good. I think Jay can. Jay has the ability to play with the Dex/Vic/Melvin's etc, Ronnie can't. Too old, too injured, too fatigued.
Watch next year. You'll see a less blocky Jay and more aesthetic. Well, as aesthetic, as he can be. I think Jay won fair and square and feel good about the way things are headed. a good bunch on smaller, perfect shaped guys gunning for Jay than the mass monsters. He'll be a great ambassador to the sport, well spoken and quite possibly will be on Jay Leno comparing chins..
Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this but Jay does have the ability and age to play the smaller game.
The IFBB picked the biggest guy of the top 6...the width on cutler is crazy huge...And cutlers back/double bicep from the waist down matches or beats Ronnies, minus the glute tie ins of Ronnies's(just two diff/structures...But Jay will probably come in heavier next year and will make the others look small, like he did this year...They have to catch Jay, not the other way around
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Ronnie was so off last night.
Jay was too. Too smooth, bad color, and still has wrinkles in his lower back.
But I hope to god Vic never wins it. Can you imagine an ex con being Mr O?
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Yes, he is a great representative for bodybuilding. :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94067.0;attach=101909;image)
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how could he do any worse than Ronnie?
remember this?
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bigbeachsm.jpg)
I think Jay will do great as a spokesperson for the sport.
Looks like a morphed version of that.
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Was Jay's win good for the sport?
or did it set us back to a "blockier, less shapely" era?
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0369.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=83818;image)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0365.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre2/images/aabj0347.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy175.jpg)
I have always felt that Jay lacked the shapely qualities that guys like Ronnie, Flex, Victor and Shawn have.
This is part of why I have never really been partial to Yates' physique also.
Jay has good quads, but even at the show last night, his thigh sweep is nowhere near what it once was.
Is this a good direction in terms of qualities that a Mr. O should have?
I am not necessarily saying that ronnie deserved to win last night - he was soft in many areas except his arms from the front, and injured to boot.
I just hope someone like Vic wins it next year..he has that really shapely look to his muscles that I am partial to.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97800.0;attach=106375;image)
ronnie used to have it, but not last night.
Personal preferences to phyisques aside, Jay deserves congratulations..
based on the pics, he beat ronnie fairly.
ronnie's arms looked really good from the front, but other than that, he was not as good as last year, not by a long shot.
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/655/Men/IMG_8426.jpg)
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/730/Men/RH9K3388.jpg)
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as you can see, he lacked the details of 2005
::) no one was less shapely than ronnie he was turning into an embarressment this is just a way to try and salvage some pride because you are bitter that the judges stopped gifting him wins.
stop being bitter, your god is dead, get over it.