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Who has done squat this way? (with shoes on of course)
woossshhhhhhhhh
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Sort of a hack squat on a Smith machine, used to minimize the back and isolate the lower thighs.
Exercise form, rather than weight, is the primary issue.
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Who has done squat this way? (with shoes on of course)
woossshhhhhhhhh
george snyder olympus gym shorts. author with rick wayne of the three more reps series book 1-3
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yes, me, i wouldn't recommend it
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This is an effective way to target the quadriceps. IMHO
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Sort of a hack squat on a Smith machine, used to minimize the back and isolate the lower thighs.
Exercise form, rather than weight, is the primary issue.
::)
Rather do front squats than those brosciency "squats"
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I like the true full ROM squats like he does with Dave Draper (don't have the pic) where they wedge their heels. Awesome way to squat.
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Who has done squat this way? (without shoes on of course)
woossshhhhhhhhh
me ;)
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I like the true full ROM squats like he does with Dave Draper (don't have the pic) where they wedge their heels. Awesome way to squat.
That pic is of Dave going rock bottom I have never seen one of Arnold going below parallel.
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8)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=431805.0;attach=477240;image)
I sometimes use this typical style when I am very constipated..
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george snyder olympus gym shorts. author with rick wayne of the three more reps series book 1-3
do you have those books?
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I front squat first in workout now then do back squat.
Works very well.
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Nice post Arnie 1947!!! The way squats were meant to be done! In my years in the gym, I've only known 1 other guy who does em like me
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Most getbiggers prefer tandem schmoe-squats.
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Who has done squat this way? (with shoes on of course)
woossshhhhhhhhh
^^
This photo was when he was preparing for the 1980 Mr. O, his last contest... He'd stopped doing regular squats in favor of smith machine squats.
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Although any type of squatting action will develop leg musculature, if you wanna have healthy knees (and back) for any length of time, do NOT squat like Arnold. Guy absolutely sucked ass at the movement.
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do you have those books?
all three, they have since put out a condensed version of all three books in one. i actually bought the first one at an olympus gym till they decided against the franchise fee and renamed it olympic training center.
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Although any type of squatting action will develop leg musculature, if you wanna have healthy knees (and back) for any length of time, do NOT squat like Arnold. Guy absolutely sucked ass at the movement.
Very true, i used to try squat like that and my knees paid for it, have since used different methods and nowhere near the knee trouble
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all three, they have since put out a condensed version of all three books in one. i actually bought the first one at an olympus gym till they decided against the franchise fee and renamed it olympic training center.
;D
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;D this is cover of combined book
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did they push HIT style training in those 3 books?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=431805.0;attach=477240;image)
I sometimes use this typical style when I am very constipated..
If you look closely at this picture, Arnold is buckling his knees. Which can lead to problems over time.
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This man knows how to squat!
(http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/images/platz/platz2.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=36444&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
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Who is that spotter ?
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Who is that spotter ?
I believe it is Leo Costa...Platz and he did the ''Big Beyond Belief'' stuff in the 90s..I had one of their books.
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Although any type of squatting action will develop leg musculature, if you wanna have healthy knees (and back) for any length of time, do NOT squat like Arnold. Guy absolutely sucked ass at the movement.
What's wrong with the way he's squatting, as pictured in this thread? Or are you making this statement based on other evidence?
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What's wrong with the way he's squatting, as pictured in this thread? Or are you making this statement based on other evidence?
I have never seen a photo of Arnie squatting where his form was decent. Either his knees are caving, his push is through his toes/front of his foot, his knees are way too far out in front, his back is fucked, his depth is shite, etc. ... It's painful to look at.
Like I say, he developed wheels to an acceptable degree (for the time) because he did squats and leg work, had good genetics and swallowed handfuls of pills like they were going out of style, but his squatting prowess was nowhere to be found.
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did they push HIT style training in those 3 books?
each guy talked about how they trained mike mentzer talked hit of course all others their system of training. how factual they were who knows? the pics and content was from a series of seminars at the olympus gyms in warrington pa.
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I believe it is Leo Costa...Platz and he did the ''Big Beyond Belief'' stuff in the 90s..I had one of their books.
I believe that's Kazmaier actually.
Who knows if those plates were even real. Do you trust McMahon? :D
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I believe that's Kazmaier actually.
Who knows if those plates were even real. Do you trust McMahon? :D
I believe you are right about the 2nd pic, it is Kaz..1st pic is Costa..and I definitely don't trust Mcmahon. ;)
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..1st pic is Costa..
Ahh... I'm sure you're right.
I have never seen a photo of Arnie squatting where his form was decent. Either his knees are caving, his push is through his toes/front of his foot, his knees are way too far out in front, his back is fucked, his depth is shite, etc. ... It's painful to look at.
Like I say, he developed wheels to an acceptable degree (for the time) because he did squats and leg work, had good genetics and swallowed handfuls of pills like they were going out of style, but his squatting prowess was nowhere to be found.
The 45 degree leg press might have helped Arnold's quads, but was it even around back then?
I agree, squats probably did little for his quads as his structure just wasn't suited for squatting.
Monster quads.
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Arnold's form and tempo was so shitty, no wonder he had to do so much volume. But hey, kick ass build no matter what anyone says!
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I believe the squat Arnie is doing in the first pic,(close stance,feet forward) is supposed to target the teardrop more.
I could give two fucks but that`s my opinion. :D
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Look how deep he is, yet he is barely breaking parallel. Just goes to show how deep a parallel squat can really be.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=431805.0;attach=477492;image)
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This man knows how to squat!
(http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/images/platz/platz2.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=36444&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
I overheard some guys at the gym saying that Platz has become quite thin now. Any confirmation?
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I overheard some guys at the gym saying that Platz has become quite thin now. Any confirmation?
Uh, yeah, since post-O-'86, except for that brief "comeback" (that only resulted in some photos, and he still he wasn't near as big as when he competed).
Guy doesn't look like he's ever lifted a weight in his life.
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Uh, yeah, since post-O-'86, except for that brief "comeback" (that only resulted in some photos, and he still he wasn't near as big as when he competed).
Guy doesn't look like he's ever lifted a weight in his life.
pictures?
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Look how deep he is, yet he is barely breaking parallel. Just goes to show how deep a parallel squat can really be.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=431805.0;attach=477492;image)
This squat is textbook. And most of the time what people feel or think is parallel is inches ABOVE true parallel. Full ROM for the win!
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I overheard some guys at the gym saying that Platz has become quite thin now. Any confirmation?
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/muscle-building-bodybuilding/4453d1335961792-random-bodybuilding-stuff-playz.jpg)
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This squat is textbook. And most of the time what people feel or think is parallel is inches ABOVE true parallel. Full ROM for the win!
I wouldn't call that textbook. Look at how hunched his back is. That first picture of Platz, THAT shows textbook form
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I wouldn't call that textbook. Look at how hunched his back is. That first picture of Platz, THAT shows textbook form
I agree the Platz photo is great form as well. I think you are referring to the way Arnolds neck is in slight flexion? Sure maybe he could bring it back into extension a few more degrees, Arnold is lower though.... Still pretty damn good form, I wouldn't change a thing if one of my clients squatted exactly like that.
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I wouldn't call that textbook. Look at how hunched his back is. That first picture of Platz, THAT shows textbook form
I think Platz's body proportions allow him to squat with his back so straight.
Probably harder for someone Arnold's height with longer legs.
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I can't squat to save my life, legs are just too damn long.
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I can't squat to save my life, legs are just too damn long.
How tall? My 6'3 training partner does this full ROM squats like a champ once he quit whining and making excuses. His quads blew up. Lighter weight and perfect form broseph
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I would say a couple of years back he still had decent legs. :P
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/opseqg.jpg)
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How tall? My 6'3 training partner does this full ROM squats like a champ once he quit whining and making excuses. His quads blew up. Lighter weight and perfect form broseph
6 foot. Doesn't matter what variable I change, the mechanics are just not right. I just pre-exhaust quads with leg extensions>leg press with my feet high and relatively wide. That suits me best.
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6 foot. Doesn't matter what variable I change, the mechanics are just not right. I just pre-exhaust quads with leg extensions>leg press with my feet high and relatively wide. That suits me best.
Have you tried a power-lifting stance for squats?
I didn't have the flexibility for the bodybuilding style squats and this solved the problem. It also gave me more flexibility so can now also squat at a narrower stance.
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Have you tried a power-lifting stance for squats?
I didn't have the flexibility for the bodybuilding style squats and this solved the problem. It also gave me more flexibility so can now also squat at a narrower stance.
Good point...I think flexibility is huge. My friend I mentioned above used to come down and sit on the bottom of the rep, and for him that was exactly at parallel. A few months into it and he gained a solid 6" or so of ROM
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I wouldn't call that textbook. Look at how hunched his back is. That first picture of Platz, THAT shows textbook form
No shit. Look at how hunched his back is and how high the bar is on his NECK. Terrific. ::)
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A whole six feet tall, what a beast.
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I agree the Platz photo is great form as well. I think you are referring to the way Arnolds neck is in slight flexion? Sure maybe he could bring it back into extension a few more degrees, Arnold is lower though.... Still pretty damn good form, I wouldn't change a thing if one of my clients squatted exactly like that.
That's great. ::)
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I would say a couple of years back he still had decent legs. :P
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/opseqg.jpg)
I arranged this photo shoot.
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I arranged this photo shoot.
did you choose that outfit too? Or was that just everyday wear for Platz at the time?
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did you choose that outfit too? Or was that just everyday wear for Platz at the time?
Ha, ha
We came up with the whole Quadfather tag and wanted to keep with the theme, so ... yeah.
I think his decision to get back into some sort of shape was his last hooray. Everyone was speculating that he was gonna jump back on stage, but I was speaking with him a lot at the time and could tell there was no way. Good call, too. He was still way off his mark, size-wise, and would have been eaten alive by the top pros of the mid-'90s. Still, he looked good and had fun with it.
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That's great. ::)
Who are you?
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No shit. Look at how hunched his back is and how high the bar is on his NECK. Terrific. ::)
how can you tell his back is "hunched"? i've seen plenty of o-lifters squat whose backs look just like this...
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how can you tell his back is "hunched"? i've seen plenty of o-lifters squat whose backs look just like this...
Yeah I agree...there are structural variances regarding spinal lordosis/kyphosis. Everyone is put together differently, that's why biomechanics are unique to each individual.
Note: I made up all of the above mentioned words to appear "smart", I do not know the meaning of them.
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Who are you?
I know who I am. Do you know who you are?
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how can you tell his back is "hunched"? i've seen plenty of o-lifters squat whose backs look just like this...
Look at the picture. And some competitive lifters use less-than-optimal technique. So what.
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I know who I am. Do you know who you are?
If this is your way of flirting with me, it's working
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If this is your way of flirting with me, it's working
LOL!
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Look at the picture. And some competitive lifters use less-than-optimal technique. So what.
i dunno man, i've watched countless videos of competitive lifters, and i do mean countless, scrutinizing their spines. this is an issue of great concern for me, given my own difficulties with the squat.
one conclusion i've come to is it can be damn hard to tell how someone's spine is really oriented. in that picture, his knees are buckling in, but that's the only thing i could confidently say is wrong. and even then, many o-lifters knees come in at the bottom of a squat when the weight gets heavy.
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No shit. Look at how hunched his back is and how high the bar is on his NECK. Terrific. ::)
I used to squat with the bar low, break from the hips. I remember this guy who competed coming up to me and telling me he wished he could squat as much as me, I could easily out squat him by over a hundred lbs but his legs made mine look like sticks. I looked at the differnt styles and most guys with great legs will squat with the bar high and let their knees travel out to just past their toes. So I have been doing it like this for a number of years and the difference is like night and day. True you cannot handle as much weight this way but the quads are doing more work. And believe it or not the knees take less punishment and it is easier on the hips. Not trying to cause shit, just telling what I have experienced. I have been lifting a long long time. Don't ask me how long. I don't want to dethrone Wes. ;D
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I used to squat with the bar low, break from the hips. I remember this guy who competed coming up to me and telling me he wished he could squat as much as me, I could easily out squat him by over a hundred lbs but his legs made mine look like sticks. I looked at the differnt styles and most guys with great legs will squat with the bar high and let their knees travel out to just past their toes. So I have been doing it like this for a number of years and the difference is like night and day. True you cannot handle as much weight this way but the quads are doing more work. And believe it or not the knees take less punishment and it is easier on the hips. Not trying to cause shit, just telling what I have experienced. I have been lifting a long long time. Don't ask me how long. I don't want to dethrone Wes. ;D
true story, my legs were bigger before I discovered powerlifting and added 200lbs to my squat from using the posterior chain more.
Look at Layne Norton's toothpick legs from doing all-back squats