Author Topic: Calling for truth - Dorian vs Haney (Read 8204 times)

lift 456 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 13, 2011, 03:31:54 PM »

haney retired just in time

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2011, 03:44:46 PM »

haney's calves were very good for a dark man!!..

yates fan · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2011, 05:03:43 PM »

haney may still have won in 92 but 93 on would have been all yates.

Nirvana · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2011, 05:51:53 PM »

dorian had yet to peak

delta9mda · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2011, 06:37:36 PM »

enjoy using my 91 pics. i have a whole lot more of them too.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2011, 06:50:51 PM »

Quote from: makaveli25 on February 13, 2011, 05:53:20 AM

Damn Haney looks awesome there. Was he pre insulin?

I'm sure a Getbig "expert" will come along and tell you exactly what he was taking...because they magically know what drugs someone they never met put into their bodies 20 years ago

kmhphoto · « **Reply #31 on:** February 15, 2011, 11:55:26 AM »

Quote from: jwb on February 13, 2011, 03:22:40 PM

Yates just edged the muscle round but Haney easily won the rest it wasn't very close.

But the muscularity round is where the physiques are compared side by side and Dorian won. But Lee did win the relaxed and posing rounds and that was enough to take home the Sandow.

Jaime · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2011, 02:26:09 PM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on February 13, 2011, 01:01:45 PM

Not even close Haney is so much better than Dorian.
Same muscle mass with better lines, simmetry and proportions.
Haney is the greatest bodybuilder ever!

Honestly i think Dorian's lines were good before he really pushed his size. Haney won there, too much thickness and maturity.

I don't think Haney was aesthetic though, sort of baffles me a little that people think he was.

Yates lines look better here.

Monster_Everything · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2011, 02:42:32 PM »

Ummm more than once Multi- O winners faced off...

Sergio vs Arnold vs Zane 1972
Zane vs Arnold 1980
Ronnie vs Jay
Haney vs Yates
Yates vs Ronnie

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2011, 08:24:29 PM »

Quote from: Monster_Everything on February 15, 2011, 02:42:32 PM

Ummm more than once Multi- O winners faced off...

Sergio vs Arnold vs Zane 1972
Zane vs Arnold 1980
Ronnie vs Jay
Haney vs Yates
Yates vs Ronnie

no you cant count yates vs ronnie because they were not fighting for the same title (as the thread starter menat)!!.. till dorian retired ronnie wasnt any threat against him!..

johnny1 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2011, 09:08:14 PM »

Haney Deserved 1991 over Yates, better Presentation of the physiue and posing and more polished overall etc... 1992 Yates looked somewhat simmlier to 1991 (give or take) in 1993 Haney in his 1991 shape (arguably his best) wouldn't of stood a chance against a peak Yates.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2011, 09:43:06 PM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on February 13, 2011, 03:17:37 PM

Not quite the destruction you claim. Lee won the relaxed round, Dorian won the muscularity round.
Im pretty sure that Dorian was placed third in the posing round which meant he was only 2nd overall.

LOL....like there is a consistency to the way these "contests" are "judged"

jwb · « **Reply #37 on:** February 16, 2011, 12:12:27 AM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on February 15, 2011, 11:55:26 AM

But the muscularity round is where the physiques are compared side by side and Dorian won. But Lee did win the relaxed and posing rounds and that was enough to take home the Sandow.

The straight firsts in the posedown kinda helped too.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #38 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:08:54 AM »

Quote from: johnny1 on February 15, 2011, 09:08:14 PM

Haney Deserved 1991 over Yates, better Presentation of the physiue and posing and more polished overall etc... 1992 Yates looked somewhat simmlier to 1991 (give or take) in 1993 Haney in his 1991 shape (arguably his best) wouldn't of stood a chance against a peak Yates.

X2..

Wiggs · « **Reply #39 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:38:29 AM »

You guys say Yates would have won in 93? How do you know? Haney was 31 when he retired and said in his last Mr. O that he just learned how to peak. I don't believe we ever say the best of him.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #40 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:11:39 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on February 16, 2011, 04:38:29 AM

You guys say Yates would have won in 93? How do you know? Haney was 31 when he retired and said in his last Mr. O that he just learned how to peak. I don't believe we ever say the best of him.

no man we were talking about his version of 91 against yates version of 93!!.. sure no one can be 100% sure if haney could keep improving (size wise) or not.. but when you think he competed in 9 olympias it's hard to believe he could improve more,.. i mean sure he tried everything during all these years!!.. imo which of course may be wrong,.. i believe a bigger version of haney would be soft and lacking some details and what he needed to go with yates of 93 was more size!!..

Shockwave · « **Reply #41 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:24:40 AM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on February 16, 2011, 07:11:39 AM

no man we were talking about his version of 91 against yates version of 93!!.. sure no one can be 100% sure if haney could keep improving (size wise) or not.. but when you think he competed in 9 olympias it's hard to believe he could improve more,.. i mean sure he tried everything during all these years!!.. imo which of course may be wrong,.. i believe a bigger version of haney would be soft and lacking some details and what he needed to go with yates of 93 was more size!!..

You know Sherief, when Nasser isnt involved, youre actually quite objective.
Im impressed.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #42 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:39:15 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on February 16, 2011, 07:24:40 AM

You know Sherief, when Nasser isnt involved, youre actually quite objective.
Im impressed.

no dude even when the wizard is involved i am objective.. i never for example said he was better than yates in 95..

Shockwave · « **Reply #43 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:54:34 AM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on February 16, 2011, 07:39:15 AM

no dude even when the wizard is involved i am objective.. i never for example said he was better than yates in 95..

Cmon man. Everyone is biased. That would be like me saying Im totally objective when Yates is involved... Of course Im biased.
Probably the most objective I am Is when I say that Nasser should have beat Yates in 97. Hell I think Yates shouldnt have even entered in 97.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #44 on:** February 16, 2011, 08:01:51 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on February 16, 2011, 07:54:34 AM

Cmon man. Everyone is biased. That would be like me saying Im totally objective when Yates is involved... Of course Im biased.
Probably the most objective I am Is when I say that Nasser should have beat Yates in 97. Hell I think Yates shouldnt have even entered in 97.

we are not really biased my friend but we like to exaggerate things on GB for fun.. this is like putting sauce on your food

and believe me as a yates fan too i felt bad for him in 97..

Figo · « **Reply #45 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:41:25 AM »

Quote from: local hero on February 13, 2011, 04:29:04 AM

sergio and arnold are in the same only time multiple winners on same stage too..oh, arnold and zane in the 80's too

yates was beaten by the better man on the day, as we all know, haney couldnt have lived with him in the next few years

sergio in the 80's not a contender unfortunately

Figo · « **Reply #46 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:46:41 AM »

Quote from: lift 456 on February 13, 2011, 03:31:54 PM

haney retired just in time

on top of his game, and undefeated

Figo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:48:41 AM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on February 13, 2011, 03:17:37 PM

Not quite the destruction you claim. Lee won the relaxed round, Dorian won the muscularity round.
Im pretty sure that Dorian was placed third in the posing round which meant he was only 2nd overall.

it did look pretty close, yates was tighter, haney had a better chest and back
when it could go either way, the reigning champ gets it, and Im glad he did

tendonitis · « **Reply #48 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:50:04 AM »

Haney deserved his win in 91 and it's possible he might have been able to beat 92 Yates. Maybe.
But 93 Yates would have beat anything Haney brought to the stage decisively.
Haney got out at the right time, he saw a nightmare when he saw Dorian, a guy who was as big as him and willing to push EVERYTHING to the limit. Haney did the smart thing.

closeline · « **Reply #49 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:00:06 AM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on February 15, 2011, 08:24:29 PM

no you cant count yates vs ronnie because they were not fighting for the same title (as the thread starter menat)!!.. till dorian retired ronnie wasnt any threat against him!..

that s the point

multi mr o are:

yates
arnold
ronnie
haney

the only year two of them were on stage together near their best was 1991

get it

yates was 2nd , haney 1st

coleman s best against yates was 6th

that s not exactly a battle between those two