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More monthly than your gym membership?
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I gave $20 the first time around.
Then they started bugging me constantly for $$ so didn't give any more.
I figure Trumpy has enough of his own money to fund himself.
I hate when charities constantly bug you like that.
They spend more $$ trying to get your money than you sent them.
Salvation Army did that so the heck with them.
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IRON, Thanks! Your donation was higher than mine and I still get requests for more, but after watching the Jan 6 Hearings, I decided to give zilch pesos!
And over the years I notice that once a politician or a charitable organization gets your address, it's a continuous request for additional funds.
And my biggest error was supplying my phone number to one so called 'insurance company' which has resulted in numerous daily phone calls from unsolicited individuals/companies.
PS.... Have you been watching the Jan 6 Hearings!?
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PS.... Have you been watching the Jan 6 Hearings!?
Nope.
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Every time I check my mail it’s 90% requests for donations.Spca meals on wheels you name it.You guys are right you make a small donation and it opens the floodgates
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o, I constantly got called from eric , lara, donald jr and all the other little drumpfsters. kinda pathetic for someone who said his campaign was self financed.
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Every time I check my mail it’s 90% requests for donations.Spca meals on wheels you name it.You guys are right you make a small donation and it opens the floodgates
This
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Over the course of how long?
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PS.... Have you been watching the Jan 6 Hearings!?
Why would any productive person waste time on a completely transparent political sideshow. We already know what happened that day.
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Why would any productive person waste time on a completely transparent political sideshow. We already know what happened that day.
Because there are some on here that fell for the bullshit and think it’s a real “hearing” not recognizing that we are literally having real insurrections every weekend since the leak into today
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I bought a couple hats and a T-shirt
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Anyone who gives to a political campaign, absent an anticipated quid pro quo, is an imbecile.
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Because there are some on here that fell for the bullshit and think it’s a real “hearing” not recognizing that we are literally having real insurrections every weekend since the leak into today
Well, now they have R v W to distract from the economy and the border, so they should wrap it up.
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IRON, Thanks! Your donation was higher than mine and I still get requests for more, but after watching the Jan 6 Hearings, I decided to give zilch pesos!
And over the years I notice that once a politician or a charitable organization gets your address, it's a continuous request for additional funds.
And my biggest error was supplying my phone number to one so called 'insurance company' which has resulted in numerous daily phone calls from unsolicited individuals/companies.
PS.... Have you been watching the Jan 6 Hearings!?
Looking at both LEFT and RIGHT websites (e.g., CNN and Fox), the RIGHT sells your name way more than the LEFT. I get emails from Beto O’Rourke only, but now I get emails from a dozen or more Republicans, Trump family, Mike Pompeo, etc. etc. I finally sat down and did mass Unsubscribes to all of them, Beto plus the Republicans, which is time consuming. Interesting that the Jan 6 hearings changed at least one mind. I have not watched them but what Trump did on that date me made me apoplectic at the time. I was on a weekend winter getaway with some Trump supporting friends when that all happened and we had to have telephone conversations in advance to make sure none of us would engage in any discussion of that on our trip.
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I voted for the guy twice but gradually realized that he's an abrasive, crazy blowhard. He did a great job as president but when he started turning on his friends and supporters I wrote him off..He cannot take constructive criticism or any kind of advice and I won't vote for him again.
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I voted for the guy twice but gradually realized that he's an abrasive, crazy blowhard. He did a great job as president but when he started turning on his friends and supporters I wrote him off..He cannot take constructive criticism or any kind of advice and I won't vote for him again.
All of that is irrelevant considering the job he did as President and what he continues do as leader of the GOP. Both on the left and right he is/has exposed the Washington establishment for who they are. He continues to drain the swamp which is why, for no other reason they are desperately doing everything in their power to see he doesn’t run again. His record on winning endorsements is unheard of. He’s still the most powerful person in this country, hands down.
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Trump pardoned a bunch of sleazy criminals and Silicon Valley fraudsters but didn't pardon his own supporters.
He has no loyalty. He doesn't deserve the support of honorable men. Besides, he had his chance and he blew it.
The minute you contemplate his pardons, you'll realize that he doesn't deserve another dime.
I gave $55 the first time around, and I don't regret it, but that's all I'm going to give.
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All of that is irrelevant considering the job he did as President and what he continues do as leader of the GOP. Both on the left and right he is/has exposed the Washington establishment for who they are. He continues to drain the swamp which is why, for no other reason they are desperately doing everything in their power to see he doesn’t run again. His record on winning endorsements is unheard of. He’s still the most powerful person in this country, hands down.
Legitimate conservatives need to move on. Although I am not a conservative, I recognize that the tide is turning right now toward a conservative stage and viewpoint, for many good reasons. The conservative cause will hurt itself by clinging to an individual who has 55 percent disapproval (probably even more right now). Move on.
In a presidential election where both individuals have 55 percent disapproval, it is a crap shoot as to who would win. More likely not Trump. However, a solid conservative is very very likely to win.
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Legitimate conservatives need to move on. Although I am not a conservative, I recognize that the tide is turning right now toward a conservative stage and viewpoint, for many good reasons. The conservative cause will hurt itself by clinging to an individual who has 55 percent disapproval (probably even more right now). Move on.
In a presidential election where both individuals have 55 percent disapproval, it is a crap shoot as to who would win. More likely not Trump. However, a solid conservative is very very likely to win.
I’m on the fence. On one hand I want him to run and win on the other I can’t help to think he’s in a better position doing what he’s been doing while being less restricted now than if he were President again. But if someone runs they would have to have Trump-Like balls. The only one I can think that could fill those shoes at this time is DeSantis
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I’m on the fence. On one hand I want him to run and win on the other I can’t help to think he’s in a better position doing what he’s been doing while being less restricted now than if he were President again. But if someone runs they would have to have Trump-Like balls. The only one I can think that could fill those shoes at this time is DeSantis
It's DeSantis. Dude is even trying to outlaw smoking on all public beaches.....that is awesome.
He will be close to trump policy wise, but without all the trash that goes with it.
I'd still like to see a combo ticket of him and Gabbard, but I know it won't happen.
I don't want another pendulum swing after this admin....
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I’m on the fence. On one hand I want him to run and win on the other I can’t help to think he’s in a better position doing what he’s been doing while being less restricted now than if he were President again. But if someone runs they would have to have Trump-Like balls. The only one I can think that could fill those shoes at this time is DeSantis
I think you are on to something. As a centrist/liberal, DeSantis scares me. I often have solid political g…dar.
And DON’T pick Mike Pence or another evangelical Christian. With the abortion fracas, too many women
who are ready to move Republican will stay Democrats.
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It's DeSantis. Dude is even trying to outlaw smoking on all public beaches.....that is awesome.
He will be close to trump policy wise, but without all the trash that goes with it.
I'd still like to see a combo ticket of him and Gabbard, but I know it won't happen.
I don't want another pendulum swing after this admin....
Wouldn’t mind that at all
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I think you are on to something. As a centrist/liberal, DeSantis scares me. I often have solid political g…dar.
And DON’T pick Mike Pence or another evangelical Christian. With the abortion fracas, too many women
who are ready to move Republican will stay Democrats.
Pence wouldn’t even enter my mind if he ran. But this country does need to return to having faith. This Satan thing isn’t working out
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Legitimate conservatives need to move on. Although I am not a conservative, I recognize that the tide is turning right now toward a conservative stage and viewpoint, for many good reasons. The conservative cause will hurt itself by clinging to an individual who has 55 percent disapproval (probably even more right now). Move on.
In a presidential election where both individuals have 55 percent disapproval, it is a crap shoot as to who would win. More likely not Trump. However, a solid conservative is very very likely to win.
Right now they fear going against him and losing millions of supporters. I'm sure behind closed doors they hope he doesn't run again but endorses the republican candidate.
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As a centrist/liberal, DeSantis scares me.
What exactly are you scared of?
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What exactly are you scared of?
Obviously of him winning. I am simply saying he has a good chance of doing exactly that. I am way too on the liberal side to want DeSantis to be President, although even I am in a stage where I am trending more conservative on certain issues like law enforcement and immigration. My own internal pulse is part of my political g…dar along with the pulse of friends and acquaintances.
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All of that is irrelevant considering the job he did as President and what he continues do as leader of the GOP. Both on the left and right he is/has exposed the Washington establishment for who they are. He continues to drain the swamp which is why, for no other reason they are desperately doing everything in their power to see he doesn’t run again. His record on winning endorsements is unheard of. He’s still the most powerful person in this country, hands down.
Hahahahaha He continues to "drain the swamp"? How? By hiring them only to turn on them later? ::)
The Big Lie became The Rip Off and little retards like yourself went along with it. You already admitted to putting Trump on auto debit each month but yet can't say what your money is being used for. The Election Defense fund that he has been milking you idiots for was revealed to not even exist. hahahaha The funds for the Wall was a total scam. And you can't even say how much Trumpy has even donated to other political candidates for the GOP.
He's the laughing stock of the country. Hands down.
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Obviously of him winning. I am simply saying he has a good chance of doing exactly that. I am way too on the liberal side to want DeSantis to be President, although even I am in a stage where I am trending more conservative on certain issues like law enforcement and immigration. My own internal pulse is part of my political g…dar along with the pulse of friends and acquaintances.
What are you worried a DeSantis will do?
I want: strong borders with a more streamlined immigration process, lower taxes, less gov't over reach, strong military, education reform, healthcare reform, social programs that actually help people in a bind, no more identity politics, better elder care, being tough on crime, vaccine honesty, etc....
No candidate from either party will give me what I want, but DeSantis will come the closest, IMO.
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What are you worried a DeSantis will do?
I want: strong borders with a more streamlined immigration process, lower taxes, less gov't over reach, strong military, education reform, healthcare reform, social programs that actually help people in a bind, no more identity politics, better elder care, being tough on crime, vaccine honesty, etc....
No candidate from either party will give me what I want, but DeSantis will come the closest, IMO.
DeSantis is a smarter version of Trump. And it scares Trumpy. I’d vote for DeSantis.
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I voted for the guy twice but gradually realized that he's an abrasive, crazy blowhard. He did a great job as president but when he started turning on his friends and supporters I wrote him off..He cannot take constructive criticism or any kind of advice and I won't vote for him again.
Trump is a piece of shit just like the rest of them
A fraud
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Hahahahaha He continues to "drain the swamp"? How? By hiring them only to turn on them later? ::)
The Big Lie became The Rip Off and little retards like yourself went along with it. You already admitted to putting Trump on auto debit each month but yet can't say what your money is being used for. The Election Defense fund that he has been milking you idiots for was revealed to not even exist. hahahaha The funds for the Wall was a total scam. And you can't even say how much Trumpy has even donated to other political candidates for the GOP.
He's the laughing stock of the country. Hands down.
lol…lurker/Strawman back for another continued beating. Lol
28% approval lol
Hey Lurker/Straw..did you hear that Trump reached from the very back of the Beast only to grab the steering wheel? 😂
Let us know how that January 6th committee hearing is going..you did start a thread about it
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lol…lurker/Strawman back for another continued beating. Lol
28% approval lol
Hey Lurker/Straw..did you hear that Trump reached from the very back of the Beast only to grab the steering wheel? 😂
Let us know how that January 6th committee hearing is going..you did start a thread about it
Hey Todd, How is the donation for the new Trumpy plane coming along? Do donors get an itemized statement showing how the money is spent?
You haven’t beaten anything yet Fragile X. That spaghetti on the WH wall probably had more sentient reactions than you.
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What are you worried a DeSantis will do?
I want: strong borders with a more streamlined immigration process, lower taxes, less gov't over reach, strong military, education reform, healthcare reform, social programs that actually help people in a bind, no more identity politics, better elder care, being tough on crime, vaccine honesty, etc....
No candidate from either party will give me what I want, but DeSantis will come the closest, IMO.
So I guess you are asking me why I am philosophically more a liberal than a conservative?? DeSantis is clearly a conservative and I believe a strong candidate. My point was I think conservatives, if they want to be successful, need to move on from Trump. The tide is turning in a conservative direction. Take advantage of that. Don’t go with someone that 55% to 60% of Americans can’t stand.
But you seem to be going beyond all that to ask me about my own positions. You will see way more Ls (for liberal) than Cs (for conservative) below, indicating that I veer toward being more liberal than conservative.
C Immigration. It needs to be reformed but LEGAL not ILLEGAL. Liberals have generally lost their way on this issue.
C Law enforcement. Liberals are keeping their heads in the sand regarding the crime problem. Plus we need to support, not undercut our law enforcement personnel.
C and L Foreign policy. I believe in a forceful foreign policy, and that the United States can lead. I often support interventions, even though we sometimes make a mess of it. This does not always map to one political party versus the other.
L Gun rights and gun control. I lean more liberal than conservative on this one but I respect that we have Amendment 2 in our Constitution. But I would not allow teenagers to purchase firearms and I would not allow the sale of assault weapons (as examples). I generally dislike conceal carry and I generally favor additional gun control legislation.
L Racism and related. Liberals have gone way overboard with all the “Woke” stuff. BUT I believe in confronting the fact that there was (and still is) racism in our history, including “systemic” racism. All the hubbub over teaching critical race theory (no one really knows what that is) upsets me because I see it as an outright denial of the warts in our history. History can be taught in a proud, patriotic way without sugar coating over the difficult aspects.
L Health care. I think our health care system in the US is an embarrassment and that Republicans have 100% failed at doing anything about it.
L Income inequality. Call me a little bit socialist if you will. But I believe in more fairness than we exhibit as a society
L Tolerance toward marginalized groups. Don’t wish to see discrimination against gays in the name of freedom of religion. Not scared of transgendered people (there are very few of them). More pro-choice than pro-life on abortion.
LL Climate change. Yes, with the Ukraine circumstances, maybe there is no choice but to open up the spigots and drill and refine. And I recognize the need for the West to be indepedendent. But have we forgotten that we are in the midst of endangering the planet. Badly endangering. We forget at great risk.
DeSantis is very conservative across the board and does not fit with most of my positions above. So now do you see why I would not want a Ron DeSantis presidency? But I am not angry at conservatives as so many here are angry angry angry at their liberal friends, family and neighbors. Both are ideologies that have been present forever and can be respected.
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I can honestly say I've given zip. Not that they haven't tried to get my donation, because they have repeatedly. News flash Trump campaign managers, this is never going to happen.
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Hey Todd, How is the donation for the new Trumpy plane coming along? Do donors get an itemized statement showing how the money is spent?
You haven’t beaten anything yet Fragile X. That spaghetti on the WH wall probably had more sentient reactions than you.
Fucking great. He’s 215-2 in endorsements and proving your January 6 fake committee wrong (as predicted), election audits still going on around the country. Roe v. Wade overturned (another promise kept)….and everything he said would happen under Biden has happened 10 fold. Should I go on? Best political investment made. Better return than the markets….oh wait, even those gains were completely wiped out lol
Oh, btw. Besides me being an NRA lifer and instructor, I also make regular contributions to them as well. Another wise investment
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So I guess you are asking me why I am philosophically more a liberal than a conservative?? DeSantis is clearly a conservative and I believe a strong candidate. My point was I think conservatives, if they want to be successful, need to move on from Trump. The tide is turning in a conservative direction. Take advantage of that. Don’t go with someone that 55% to 60% of Americans can’t stand.
But you seem to be going beyond all that to ask me about my own positions. You will see way more Ls (for liberal) than Cs (for conservative) below, indicating that I veer toward being more liberal than conservative.
C Immigration. It needs to be reformed but LEGAL not ILLEGAL. Liberals have generally lost their way on this issue.
C Law enforcement. Liberals are keeping their heads in the sand regarding the crime problem. Plus we need to support, not undercut our law enforcement personnel.
C and L Foreign policy. I believe in a forceful foreign policy, and that the United States can lead. I often support interventions, even though we sometimes make a mess of it. This does not always map to one political party versus the other.
L Gun rights and gun control. I lean more liberal than conservative on this one but I respect that we have Amendment 2 in our Constitution. But I would not allow teenagers to purchase firearms and I would not allow the sale of assault weapons (as examples). I generally dislike conceal carry and I generally favor additional gun control legislation.
L Racism and related. Liberals have gone way overboard with all the “Woke” stuff. BUT I believe in confronting the fact that there was (and still is) racism in our history, including “systemic” racism. All the hubbub over teaching critical race theory (no one really knows what that is) upsets me because I see it as an outright denial of the warts in our history. History can be taught in a proud, patriotic way without sugar coating over the difficult aspects.
L Health care. I think our health care system in the US is an embarrassment and that Republicans have 100% failed at doing anything about it.
L Income inequality. Call me a little bit socialist if you will. But I believe in more fairness than we exhibit as a society
L Tolerance toward marginalized groups. Don’t wish to see discrimination against gays in the name of freedom of religion. Not scared of transgendered people (there are very few of them). More pro-choice than pro-life on abortion.
LL Climate change. Yes, with the Ukraine circumstances, maybe there is no choice but to open up the spigots and drill and refine. And I recognize the need for the West to be indepedendent. But have we forgotten that we are in the midst of endangering the planet. Badly endangering. We forget at great risk.
DeSantis is very conservative across the board and does not fit with most of my positions above. So now do you see why I would not want a Ron DeSantis presidency? But I am not angry at conservatives as so many here are angry angry angry at their liberal friends, family and neighbors. Both are ideologies that have been present forever and can be respected.
This was a great response and much apprciated. Your views a more classical liberal, which would put them close to an independent libertarianish person like myself. I think DeSantis gives you the first three on your list and you'll laugh, but will promote tolerance to marginalized groups.
For gun control, you'll need to define "assault weapon". If it's a semi auto AR 15, it's not going to happen, so not worth discussion. The real way to combat the small number of sick people who do sick shit is to enable people to be able to stop them in real time. Most of the atrocities are from people who have gotten firearms legally and passed background checks, so I know of no other way.
As for health care, both parties have failed. Obama had all three branches and came up with shit.
As for income inequality, not sure how you handle that. Tech industry created some big gaps, I think, as more and more people made fast money.
As for Climate change, I have no answer.
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Fucking great. He’s 215-2 in endorsements and proving your January 6 fake committee wrong (as predicted), election audits still going on around the country. Roe v. Wade overturned (another promise kept)….and everything he said would happen under Biden has happened 10 fold. Should I go on? Best political investment made. Better return than the markets….oh wait, even those gains were completely wiped out lol
Oh, btw. Besides me being an NRA lifer and instructor, I also make regular contributions to them as well. Another wise investment
And when Trump offers his followers the 'Kool Aide' you will be first in line.
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Trump pardoned a bunch of sleazy criminals and Silicon Valley fraudsters but didn't pardon his own supporters.
He has no loyalty. He doesn't deserve the support of honorable men. Besides, he had his chance and he blew it.
The minute you contemplate his pardons, you'll realize that he doesn't deserve another dime.
I gave $55 the first time around, and I don't regret it, but that's all I'm going to give.
That’s true he threw his supporters under the bus and used his pardons on violent rappers! Pitiful
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This was a great response and much apprciated. Your views a more classical liberal, which would put them close to an independent libertarianish person like myself. I think DeSantis gives you the first three on your list and you'll laugh, but will promote tolerance to marginalized groups.
For gun control, you'll need to define "assault weapon". If it's a semi auto AR 15, it's not going to happen, so not worth discussion. The real way to combat the small number of sick people who do sick shit is to enable people to be able to stop them in real time. Most of the atrocities are from people who have gotten firearms legally and passed background checks, so I know of no other way.
As for health care, both parties have failed. Obama had all three branches and came up with shit.
As for income inequality, not sure how you handle that. Tech industry created some big gaps, I think, as more and more people made fast money.
As for Climate change, I have no answer.
I go back and forth on gun control and gun rights. There is Second Amendment and we are a nation of people on the frontier historically (still are in many areas) and I do not know much about the various types of firearms. Plus I somewhat agree with the statement “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.” I feel both sides of the gun argument.
On health care, I totally disagree with you. The Democrats are at least trying different things. Republicans are 0 on this plus show hypocrisy making a huge fuss with no specific proposals anywhere in sight. I guess I would also agree with, “health care is a right, not a privilege,”.
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Fucking great. He’s 215-2 in endorsements and proving your January 6 fake committee wrong (as predicted), election audits still going on around the country. Roe v. Wade overturned (another promise kept)….and everything he said would happen under Biden has happened 10 fold. Should I go on? Best political investment made. Better return than the markets….oh wait, even those gains were completely wiped out lol
Oh, btw. Besides me being an NRA lifer and instructor, I also make regular contributions to them as well. Another wise investment
^^ Proof that only stupid people think Trumpy is smart. Even his own daughter doesn't believe his bullshit.
Again, you have no idea where your money goes because the grifter knows you are too stupid to ask. That retard chamber on your shoulders is nothing more than a fleshlight repository for every CT that comes down the pipe to shoot a load in before moving on out to the pasture.
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I go back and forth on gun control and gun rights. There is Second Amendment and we are a nation of people on the frontier historically (still are in many areas) and I do not know much about the various types of firearms. Plus I somewhat agree with the statement “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.” I feel both sides of the gun argument.
On health care, I totally disagree with you. The Democrats are at least trying different things. Republicans are 0 on this plus show hypocrisy making a huge fuss with no specific proposals anywhere in sight. I guess I would also agree with, “health care is a right, not a privilege,”.
It's OK to go back and forth on gun control because it's complicated, and has no easy or practical fix. I look at it simply - if the gov't has AR15s to protect itself, the people need the equivalent to keep the spirit of 2A alive. If you want honesty, I did not want to abolish AR15s, but understood the argument they were not "necessary"......then, during the BLM riots when I saw the mob that had broken through and iron gate into a small community, and the two homeowners were on their property holding one, I changed my mind. Saw in real time a real situation where that type of gun was necessary to protect a house.
Democrats are "trying" on healthcare, but nothing meaningful happened during Obama's eight years, and nothing with Biden. I think they both suck. We have a system that financially rewards sickness and need to promote more preventative care.
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Looks like DeSantis versus Pence in the 2024 primaries. My advice to conservatives: Go with DeSantis. The abortion issue would doom Pence in the Midwest. Of course, the best outcome for us Democrats is Trump who probably would lose in the general election (see article below, I know I know “fake news”:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/gop-megadonors-turn-on-trump-look-for-2024-alternatives-after-jan-6-hearings.html
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Looks like DeSantis versus Pence in the 2024 primaries. My advice to conservatives: Go with DeSantis. The abortion issue would doom Pence in the Midwest. Of course, the best outcome for us Democrats is Trump who probably would lose in the general election (see article below, I know I know “fake news”:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/gop-megadonors-turn-on-trump-look-for-2024-alternatives-after-jan-6-hearings.html
Is that the best outcome? 4 more years of Biden? What would that give you in terms of your list?
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And when Trump offers his followers the 'Kool Aide' you will be first in line.
Mmmm..no. Maybe you didn’t read my previous post. Also, he made this country better and didn’t attempt to destroy it like we warned what would happen if Biden got in. Biden and his fake administration has literally destroyed EVERY sector of this country and it was done ON PURPOSE. Feel free to deny it then explain it
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Is that the best outcome? 4 more years of Biden? What would that give you in terms of your list?
I know, we need a new crop of Democrats although I am not as down on Biden as many or most are. But I don’t want that crop to be Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren who are too far LEFT. But just because the Democrats have issues (as do the Republicans with their struggle over Trump), it DOES NOT push me to wanting a president as conservative as DeSantis. I have a friend who voted for Trump and who said he would vote for Amy Klobuchar if she ran again. I have not followed her much, but we need to eventually shake loose from the 80 year olds and find some new people.
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I know, we need a new crop of Democrats although I am not as down on Biden as many or most are. But I don’t want that crop to be Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren who are too far LEFT. But just because the Democrats have issues (as do the Republicans with their struggle over Trump), it DOES NOT push me to wanting a president as conservative as DeSantis. I have a friend who voted for Trump and who said he would vote for Amy Klobuchar if she ran again. I have not followed her much, but we need to eventually shake loose from the 80 year olds and find some new people.
Agree on the age thing 100%. Democrats need more Tulsi types.
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Agree on the age thing 100%. Democrats need more Tulsi types.
I predicted a Biden presidency when everyone thought I was crazy. I am at the point of almost being ready to predict a DeSantis presidency. It is hard for me to defend Biden (your question above) even though I want to defend him. But that does not change my opinion that America would RUN from Trump. DeSantis can grab quite a few people in the middle which Trump cannot.
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I predicted a Biden presidency when everyone thought I was crazy. I am at the point of almost being ready to predict a DeSantis presidency. It is hard for me to defend Biden (your question above) even though I want to defend him. But that does not change my opinion that America would RUN from Trump. DeSantis can grab quite a few people in the middle which Trump cannot.
I don't think thinking a Biden presidency was crazy, it was basically an anti-Trump referendum. I was unsure how the election would play out, could see either way. I think Trump just blew it during Covid, by not taking a more "presidential" tone. Without Covid, he wins easily IMO.
I think the only thing that stops DeSantis is Trump messing it up.
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I don't think thinking a Biden presidency was crazy, it was basically an anti-Trump referendum. I was unsure how the election would play out, could see either way. I think Trump just blew it during Covid, by not taking a more "presidential" tone. Without Covid, he wins easily IMO.
I think the only thing that stops DeSantis is Trump messing it up.
He can only mess it up if voters go along with it. I think that many many conservative voters are ready to move on. If Trump were to truly try to dump on DeSantis (who actually has very little to truly be criticized by Trump on), I think conservatives would pull away from Trump in far greater numbers than they are already doing. Trump can dump on Pence without too much peril (Pence is only truly liked by evangelicals and maybe the conservative business community, and is quite disliked by the Jan 6 extremists) but I think it will be hard for Trump to dump on DeSantis too much, and hopefully he will see that in the end. Although this scenario gives me the DeSantis presidency I predict.
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DeSantis is nothing more than a smarter Trump. (Which isn’t hard really). DeSantis is smart enough to keep his mouth shut most of the time. Trumpy couldn’t stop whining and telling lies.
DeSantis has learned what not to do at this point. Which is why Trumpy is scared of him.
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COACH, Can you elaborate on your 'fake committee' statement referring to the Jan 6 Hearings.
Do you think that all or some of the accusations pertaining to Trump are outright lies or exaggerations?
Are you even watching the hearings?
I personally think that this Trump situation will be a major problem for years to come .... even if he is totally innocent, but it ain't over yet!
America as we knew it prior to Trump is gone .... and will possibly never return.
And it just might be proceeding as planned .... but I am no expert when it comes to conspiracy planning.
Thanks, Coach.
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COACH, Can you elaborate on your 'fake committee' statement referring to the Jan 6 Hearings.
Do you think that all or some of the accusations pertaining to Trump are outright lies or exaggerations?
Are you even watching the hearings?
I personally think that this Trump situation will be a major problem for years to come .... even if he is totally innocent, but it ain't over yet!
America as we knew it prior to Trump is gone .... and will possibly never return.
And it just might be proceeding as planned .... but I am no expert when it comes to conspiracy planning.
Thanks, Coach.
LOL stunt, read the thread.
The process is fake because there is nothing "unknown" over what happened 1/6. This is political grandstanding of the highest magnitude, to draw attention away from the real issues at hand, and satisfy those still with TDS.
Remember the last time Schiff and Co had "damaging, irrefutable evidence"? How'd that turn out.
Trump is gone, let him go.
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LOL stunt, read the thread.
The process is fake because there is nothing "unknown" over what happened 1/6. This is political grandstanding of the highest magnitude, to draw attention away from the real issues at hand, and satisfy those still with TDS.
Remember the last time Schiff and Co had "damaging, irrefutable evidence"? How'd that turn out.
Trump is gone, let him go.
I am not watching any of it and agree we are probably not learning anything new (maybe some things, Stunt maybe has an opinion on that). I also agree that a lot of grandstanding is involved. But none of that takes away from how shocked and disgusted I was when it all happened, so it is probably reminding a lot of people of that time and place and the baggage associated with the “leader”, which most likely is hastening Trump’s fade-out, which is happening anyway.
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I am not watching any of it and agree we are probably not learning anything new (maybe some things, Stunt maybe has an opinion on that). I also agree that a lot of grandstanding is involved. But none of that takes away from how shocked and disgusted I was when it all happened, so it is probably reminding a lot of people of that time and place and the baggage associated with the “leader”, which most likely is hastening Trump’s fade-out, which is happening anyway.
It was a shitty thing to happen for sure. No doubt. Although Trump didn't call for violence, and explicitly called for the opposite, he could have messaged it much more directly and strongly.
There is literally no doubt there were professional agitators there, and there is more to this story than meets the eye. People try to put in on par, or worse than the BLM riots, which caused much more damage and death, and that's wrong.
It was never a threat to democracy - wtf were these people going to do?
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It was a shitty thing to happen for sure. No doubt. Although Trump didn't call for violence, and explicitly called for the opposite, he could have messaged it much more directly and strongly.
There is literally no doubt there were professional agitators there, and there is more to this story than meets the eye. People try to put in on par, or worse than the BLM riots, which caused much more damage and death, and that's wrong.
It was never a threat to democracy - wtf were these people going to do?
DISAGREE. I am no fan of BLM and deplore how fellow liberals have turned a blind eye to the associated looting, etc. But storming the halls of government with the leader of that government semi-encouraging the whole thing is at a much different, more serious level (imho). This is probably one important issue that sorts me into the more liberal camp (above discussion) and you into the more conservative camp. “Called for the opposite”, I don’t care how many quotes you were to furnish, I would never buy it in a million years. A huge number of centrist voters will roll toward me on this one. But where I do agree is that this issue pales by comparison to the the ones that affect us all more directly: economy, immigration, crime, abortion, etc.
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COACH, Can you elaborate on your 'fake committee' statement referring to the Jan 6 Hearings.
Do you think that all or some of the accusations pertaining to Trump are outright lies or exaggerations?
Are you even watching the hearings?
I personally think that this Trump situation will be a major problem for years to come .... even if he is totally innocent, but it ain't over yet!
America as we knew it prior to Trump is gone .... and will possibly never return.
And it just might be proceeding as planned .... but I am no expert when it comes to conspiracy planning.
Thanks, Coach.
All Qoach Todd can do is parrot the lies by Rudy, Pillow Guy and Kraken. Which lack complete evidence or substance.
No surprise really.
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All Qoach Todd can do is parrot the lies by Rudy, Pillow Guy and Kraken. Which lack complete evidence or substance.
No surprise really.
You mean like 5 years of “Russian collusion” a hooker, “quid pro quo” a fake “impeachment” a fake “insurrection” and now a fake January 6th Committee that you fell for hook line and sinker so much you even started a thread on it when anyone with any intelligence knew it was bullshit from the beginning.
Btw, when is Biden getting the rest of the people he promised to get out Afghanistan…it’s been almost a year
Hey Lurker, tell us how you think this is a legit hearing
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You mean like 5 years of “Russian collusion” a hooker, “quid pro quo” a fake “impeachment” a fake “insurrection” and now a fake January 6th Committee that you fell for hook line and sinker so much you even started a thread on it when anyone with any intelligence knew it was bullshit from the beginning.
Btw, when is Biden getting the rest of the people he promised to get out Afghanistan…it’s been almost a year
Also countless fake stories "troops are losers", "very fine people", "inject bleach".....etc......
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Also countless fake stories "troops are losers", "very fine people", "inject bleach".....etc......
It’s absolutely insane the lengths the left went and is still going through to keep this guy from running. He disrupted at least 50 years corruption and those involved are getting exposed big time. He exposed the blatant Marxist agenda the left want for this country
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As a Getbigger I keep misreading the title as how much I spend on champagne.
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You mean like 5 years of “Russian collusion” a hooker, “quid pro quo” a fake “impeachment” a fake “insurrection” and now a fake January 6th Committee that you fell for hook line and sinker so much you even started a thread on it when anyone with any intelligence knew it was bullshit from the beginning.
Btw, when is Biden getting the rest of the people he promised to get out Afghanistan…it’s been almost a year
Hey Lurker, tell us how you think this is a legit hearing
Like the fake birth certificate, pizza parlor sex ring, covid assassinations, etc.. etc...?
Pretty sure the hearings are far from fake, but if you think they are, well... that is a sure sign they are not.
BTW... when is Mexico going to pay for that wall?
Hey Todd, tell us how this isn't a legit hearing.
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Like the fake birth certificate, pizza parlor sex ring, covid assassinations, etc.. etc...?
Pretty sure the hearings are far from fake, but if you think they are, well... that is a sure sign they are not.
BTW... when is Mexico going to pay for that wall?
Hey Todd, tell us how this isn't a legit hearing.
Tell us why you don’t think they’re fake. Lend some legitimacy to it because no one else here or on that committee can.
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Tell us why you don’t think they’re fake. Lend some legitimacy to it because no one else here or on that committee can.
What facts do you dispute? Or rather, what facts that Trumpy tells you to dispute do you agree with?
Seems like perjury would deter anyone from lying. Just ask Flynn.... or Stone.... LOL
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What facts do you dispute? Or rather, what facts that Trumpy tells you to dispute do you agree with?
Seems like perjury would deter anyone from lying. Just ask Flynn.... or Stone.... LOL
Facts? Since when is hearsay a fact? Two fake impeachments and one fake trial that the the prosecution got their asses handed to them that vindicated Trump because it was all hearsay…you don’t prosecute on hearsay, genius. This is no different.
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Facts? Since when is hearsay a fact? Two fake impeachments and one fake trial that the the prosecution got their asses handed to them that vindicated Trump because it was all hearsay…you don’t prosecute on hearsay, genius. This is no different.
The main story of grabbing the limo wheel and assaulting a secret service agent is proven hearsay. That isn't even in denial. But it is the lead story on this everywhere. Mind boggling.
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Not very many "facts" when it came to the 4-yr witch-hunt (insane libz vs. agent orange) hardly any facts at all.
Just tax-payer money spent on fake collusions...
Now Pervy-Joe!! Thats another story.. Self-admitted corrupt/CCP puppet.
Biden: "Who says I'm not corrupt"!!!
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&t=27s wasn't nothing but a house party.
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I've never given money to any political group, probably never will.
This thread was pretty good until the TDS arguing commenced.
The Republicans have to ditch Trump for 2024.
He's damaged goods, too many people despise him, including myself and i voted for him.
DeSantis is great.
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I've never given money to any political group, probably never will.
This thread was pretty good until the TDS arguing commenced.
The Republicans have to ditch Trump for 2024.
He's damaged goods, too many people despise him, including myself and i voted for him.
DeSantis is great.
Agreed.
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I'm guessing around $500 for me. Won't do it again ever. I need to see results. Trump promised to drain the swamp but surrounded himself with traitors. Which means his judgement stinks.
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I've never given money to any political group, probably never will.
This thread was pretty good until the TDS arguing commenced.
The Republicans have to ditch Trump for 2024.
He's damaged goods, too many people despise him, including myself and i voted for him.
DeSantis is great.
The only political group (I don’t consider Trump campaign a group) is the NRA (Civil Rights group)
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/02/trump-towers-over-2024-field-40-point-lead-closest-competitor/
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/02/trump-towers-over-2024-field-40-point-lead-closest-competitor/
Polls say nothing about what the wise conservative strategy should be. Plus different polls say different things:
https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politics/poll-desantis-trump-possible-2024-gop-presidential-nomination/67-6f59f533-d2c5-44c4-806b-2e97c11dc2f1
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;D. ;D
The Donald is damaged goods. Time for all Trump nuthuggers to move on.. Desantis . Is probably your best bet..
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/16/us/politics/trump-desantis.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/16/us/politics/trump-desantis.html)
;D. ;D
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Interesting factoid: If Trump and DeSantis decided to run together in 2024, one or the other would have to give up Florida’s Electoral College vote, which would be a huge loss given the size of Florida’s population. They can both run from the same state; however, the electors cannot vote for both of them from the same state (Amendment 12). Of course, Trump could move back to New Jersey or New York (and maybe keep Mar-a-Lago as a vacation home). I know first hand that Florida is strict on residences and will figure out where you are or are not. I can’t see Trump making that sacrifice. But maybe. Of course, it would be unwise for DeSantis to go along with this. Trump and DeSantis might not win, and if they were to win, Trump would probably end up just as unpopular the second time around, shooing in a Democrat rather than DeSantis in 2028.
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Trump is done but the circumstances that brought him forward are stronger than in '16. It wasn't Trump that made Trump President. The dude can't even get out of his own way. It was the Democrats inexplicably continuing to shaft and vilify middle class white America. People are more sick of it now than they were in '16. It's too far gone for them to walk it back, and declaring anyone who won't follow them to the fringes to be a Bad Person will make them bleed members and they won't win any new ones. It's a craptastic strategy. They'll basically become the Soy And Socialism How Dare You Party once they lose the anti-Trump thing, which will go about as well for them as it did for CNN.
If I were placing a bet: '24 Dem will be Hillary again. They have no one else in the bullpen. She'll face DeSantis and lose.
The only one who beats DeSantis is Tulsi but the Dems will never let her in. She would have trounced Trump in the landslideyest win ever but even after four years of shrieking about Trump being The Devil himself they prefered to risk a squeaker of an election with a crusty old man, who was too frail to even campaign, because he was on script for them.
Wild Card:
If the Libertarians and Tulsi can get it together you might see some shit go on. Yeah yeah they only ever take 2%. But if the Republicans are still poisoned by the spectre of Trump, if the Democrats are seen as fringe indentity, zero-liberty, economy killing socialists....Tulsi is a political thoroughbred. Any party that puts her on the ticket wins the election. The Mises Caucus should be sending her roses every single day. If anyone could carry a third party to victory, it's her.
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meh.. nothing a rigged dominion voting machine can't fix
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Trump is done but the circumstances that brought him forward are stronger than in '16. It wasn't Trump that made Trump President. The dude can't even get out of his own way. It was the Democrats inexplicably continuing to shaft and vilify middle class white America. People are more sick of it now than they were in '16. It's too far gone for them to walk it back, and declaring anyone who won't follow them to the fringes to be a Bad Person will make them bleed members and they won't win any new ones. It's a craptastic strategy. They'll basically become the Soy And Socialism How Dare You Party once they lose the anti-Trump thing, which will go about as well for them as it did for CNN.
If I were placing a bet: '24 Dem will be Hillary again. They have no one else in the bullpen. She'll face DeSantis and lose.
The only one who beats DeSantis is Tulsi but the Dems will never let her in. She would have trounced Trump in the landslideyest win ever but even after four years of shrieking about Trump being The Devil himself they prefered to risk a squeaker of an election with a crusty old man, who was too frail to even campaign, because he was on script for them.
Wild Card:
If the Libertarians and Tulsi can get it together you might see some shit go on. Yeah yeah they only ever take 2%. But if the Republicans are still poisoned by the spectre of Trump, if the Democrats are seen as fringe indentity, zero-liberty, economy killing socialists....Tulsi is a political thoroughbred. Any party that puts her on the ticket wins the election. The Mises Caucus should be sending her roses every single day. If anyone could carry a third party to victory, it's her.
I said earlier a DeSantis / Tulsi ticket would rule.
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Another out of the blue prediction here: Gavin Newsom emerging? He would sweep the Northeast and possibly Georgia and Virginia just as DeSantis would sweep Florida, the Mountain West and the South. But who would do better in the Midwest is the question? He may be an alternative to Biden in 2024, especially for Democrats who think Sanders and Warren are too far Left and old news. He has a lot of baggage within CA (but got re-elected handily, and by a higher margin than DeSantis will get re-elected in Florida) but that baggage is not too well known outside CA. Same with DeSantis, baggage at home but a fairly blank slate at large.
Both of these two can pretty much write their own futures.
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I said earlier a DeSantis / Tulsi ticket would rule.
She'll eat his lunch after bringing it home for me to heat up for her, shaking her hair slo mo, shoving me back onto the kitchen table and asking me who's your President.
HMU Tulsi.
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She'll eat his lunch after bringing it home for me to heat up for her, shaking her hair slo mo, shoving me back onto the kitchen table and asking me whose your President.
HMU Tulsi.
Where you born in Australia? I'm fascinated with the ancestry of that island. Were you descendent from a criminal? Do you have any aboriginal blood? It must be easy to trace.
I like a good story.
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I was born in a log cabin which I built with my own hands. I credit a steady diet of witchity grubs for my charisma and sexual prowess, which is legendary in the koala porn genre.
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I was born in a log cabin which I built with my own hands. I credit a steady diet of witchity grubs for my charisma and sexual prowess, which is legendary in the koala porn genre.
I was being serious. You had to get there from somewhere.
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A girl I met in London brought me here. You know I'm from Jersey originally.
Is your gov heading for the white house?
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A girl I met in London brought me here. You know I'm from Jersey originally.
Is your gov heading for the white house?
A man from Jersey, choosing to stay in Australia.....I bet you have a story to tell.
I'm not a politician, nor am I a fan of politics. However, the older I get, it seems to be affecting me more. The polls agree that Biden is terrible. To get that low of a % means that many Democrats also feel that way.
The next President will have to purposefully tank, in order to do worse.
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If I had to do it again, I'd move to Iowa. I always liked Iowa.
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If I had to do it again, I'd move to Iowa. I always liked Iowa.
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True. I liked Iowa every time I drove through it. It always gave me a good feeling, and I just liked everyone I met. I can't say that about anywhere else in the world.
I was born in Wisconsin, not that I remember it, and all my dad's people are from Illinois and Indiana. Maybe that's got something to do with it.
No one will understand why but I might take a vacation in Iowa someday.
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True. I liked Iowa every time I drove through it. It always gave me a good feeling, and I just liked everyone I met. I can't say that about anywhere else in the world.
I was born in Wisconsin, not that I remember it, and all my dad's people are from Illinois and Indiana. Maybe that's got something to do with it.
No one will understand why but I might take a vacation in Iowa someday.
I once spent a few days in Iowa when I was 21. It was really nice. Went to a cool Irish bar and a bunch of other places - the people were great.
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I once spent a few days in Iowa when I was 21. It was really nice. Went to a cool Irish bar and a bunch of other places - the people were great.
I like Iowa too. Along the Mississippi River on the east side of the state are beautiful bluffs and great views of the powerful river (and even some little sandy beaches where I saw people actually swimming when I drove through). But I really like the little clean scrubbed towns on rolling hills in the middle of the state, that have kind of a German flavor, more so than the New England flavor of Illinois and Michigan and Indiana. I once stayed in a Holiday Inn in Des Moines where the Miss Iowa Pork competition was being held. As out of staters, we laughed our asses off but those Midwest Farmers’ Daughters were HOT as The Beach Boys would say. They were not the least bit porky.
Also, people make fun of the Iowa State Fair where all the politicians show up, but I was there on a beautiful summer afternoon and it put me back 40 years or so to my childhood.
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I like Iowa too. Along the Mississippi River on the east side of the state are beautiful bluffs and great views of the powerful river (and even some little sandy beaches where I saw people actually swimming when I drove through). But I really like the little clean scrubbed towns on rolling hills in the middle of the state, that have kind of a German flavor, more so than the New England flavor of Illinois and Michigan and Indiana. I once stayed in a Holiday Inn in Des Moines where the Miss Iowa Pork competition was being held. As out of staters, we laughed our asses off but those Midwest Farmers’ Daughters were HOT as The Beach Boys would say. They were not the least bit porky.
Also, people make fun of the Iowa State Fair where all the politicians show up, but I was there on a beautiful summer afternoon and it put me back 40 years or so to my childhood.
That's cool, man. The views sound great. And I'd have been totally up for viewing a Miss Iowa Pork competition back then, lol.
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WT
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Love that term “ideal market hog” in above pig video (middle video above with hot pig raising young lady)
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DeSantis should only pair up with Trump if he has a desire to commit suicide.
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DeSantis should only pair up with Trump if he has a desire to commit suicide.
I know Trump makes his own decisions, but I actually believe that if DeSantis momentum continues, Melania and the kids will advise him to back off.
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DeSantis should only pair up with Trump if he has a desire to commit suicide.
Yup, Trump needs to step out of the ring.
He's damaged goods.
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True. I liked Iowa every time I drove through it. It always gave me a good feeling, and I just liked everyone I met. I can't say that about anywhere else in the world.
I was born in Wisconsin, not that I remember it, and all my dad's people are from Illinois and Indiana. Maybe that's got something to do with it.
No one will understand why but I might take a vacation in Iowa someday.
Iowa is the corn state. 90% of its land is agricultural. What's not to like?