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Re: Niners
« Reply #175 on: February 20, 2020, 12:27:11 PM »

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Re: Niners
« Reply #176 on: February 20, 2020, 12:28:33 PM »
Greatest Show on Turf.
Yep, and their defense sucked.

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Re: Niners
« Reply #177 on: February 20, 2020, 12:30:44 PM »
If Garoppolo completes the pass to Sanders the 49'ers win and everyone is talking about how great the SF defense is and how Andy Reid chocked again.  These games have a few key plays that determine the outcome.

Or the deep pass by Mahomes late in the fourth, with Bosa inches from a sack.  Game of inches.  

We can point to a number of game-changing moments and decisions (like why didn't they continue to feed Deebo and why didn't Mostert start), but in the end, KC got it done over four quarters.    

  

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Re: Niners
« Reply #178 on: February 20, 2020, 12:31:23 PM »
Yep, and their defense sucked.

Well I guess that blows up Earl's theory.   :)

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Re: Niners
« Reply #179 on: February 20, 2020, 12:36:16 PM »
Or the deep pass by Mahomes late in the fourth, with Bosa inches from a sack.  Game of inches.  

We can point to a number of game-changing moments and decisions (like why didn't they continue to feed Deebo and why didn't Mostert start), but in the end, KC got it done over four quarters.    

  
Games at that level are so close and that's why it irritates me to see the sports media make such a big deal about championships.  They also make it a battle between QB's instead of all 53 players plus coaching staff plus the officials plus blind luck.

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« Reply #180 on: February 20, 2020, 12:45:08 PM »
Well I guess that blows up Earl's theory.   :)

if true that would only be one team, but he's wrong they had a great defense

they had 7 interceptions returned for touchdowns, which is 3rd most in nfl history

led the league in sacks and rushing defense, kevin carter had the most sacks in the league

i win again 8)

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Re: Niners
« Reply #181 on: February 20, 2020, 12:48:27 PM »
Games at that level are so close and that's why it irritates me to see the sports media make such a big deal about championships.  They also make it a battle between QB's instead of all 53 players plus coaching staff plus the officials plus blind luck.

good teams tend to find a way to win

people say the patriots could be 0 - 9 in super bowls if not for a play here or there, the fact that they were always in a position to win or in contention should tell you the difference between winning and losing is a lot greater than just one play or luck, while most of the teams they played had a short run or a one year wonder only to disappear

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Re: Niners
« Reply #182 on: February 20, 2020, 12:50:14 PM »
if true that would only be one team, but he's wrong they had a great defense

they had 7 interceptions returned for touchdowns, which is 3rd most in nfl history

led the league in sacks and rushing defense, kevin carter had the most sacks in the league

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Not so fast.  The 2011 NY Giants had the 27th ranked defense.  You lose.

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Re: Niners
« Reply #183 on: February 20, 2020, 12:50:56 PM »
Not so fast.  The 2011 NY Giants had the 27th ranked defense.  You lose.

they played the 30th ranked defense in the super bowl  ;D

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Re: Niners
« Reply #184 on: February 20, 2020, 12:54:56 PM »
Games at that level are so close and that's why it irritates me to see the sports media make such a big deal about championships.  They also make it a battle between QB's instead of all 53 players plus coaching staff plus the officials plus blind luck.

I agree.

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Re: Niners
« Reply #185 on: February 20, 2020, 12:55:25 PM »
The 2006 Colts had the 28th ranked defense.

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« Reply #186 on: February 20, 2020, 12:55:49 PM »
The 2006 Colts had the 24th ranked defense.

good thing they played rex grossman in the super bowl 8)

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Re: Niners
« Reply #187 on: February 20, 2020, 01:00:35 PM »
You could make the same excuses for the teams that had great defenses.  The Bears defense played Grogan and the Pats, the Buccaneers played the old man Grbac and the old folks home Raiders (with no 2 week break that year).

Correction Gannon.

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Re: Niners
« Reply #188 on: February 20, 2020, 01:02:20 PM »
The 2006 Colts had the 28th ranked defense.

Earl this is what happens when you make overstatements.  lol

If defense always wins championships then the 2006 Colts would not have won the Super Bowl.

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Re: Niners
« Reply #189 on: February 20, 2020, 01:04:22 PM »
You could make the same excuses for the teams that had great defenses.  The Bears defense played Grogan and the Pats, the Buccaneers played the old man Grbac and the old folks home Raiders (with no 2 week break that year).

Correction Gannon.

bears are remembered as maybe best defense ever, gannon was nfl mvp that season

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Re: Niners
« Reply #190 on: February 20, 2020, 01:06:44 PM »
bears are remembered as maybe best defense ever, gannon was nfl mvp that season

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Your argument has already been debunked.  Great defenses have an advantage, no doubt.  Of the teams that had a #1 ranked defense and made the Super Bowl the record is 8-3.  Big advantage but not impossible to overcome.

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« Reply #191 on: February 20, 2020, 01:06:58 PM »
Earl this is what happens when you make overstatements.  lol

If defense always wins championships then the 2006 Colts would not have won the Super Bowl.

like i said they played rex grossman

they also got healthy for the playoffs, both bob sanders and dwight freeney were injured that season and were easily their best defensive players

bob sanders had a short career due to injuries, but when healthy he was as good as any safety ever, he was their troy polamalu

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Re: Niners
« Reply #192 on: February 20, 2020, 01:08:23 PM »
Your argument has already been debunked.  Great defenses have an advantage, no doubt.  Of the teams that had a #1 ranked defense and made the Super Bowl the record is 8-3.  Big advantage but not impossible to overcome.

debunked?  are you kidding me HAHAHA ;D

8 -3 is huge

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Re: Niners
« Reply #193 on: February 20, 2020, 01:14:08 PM »
debunked?  are you kidding me HAHAHA ;D

8 -3 is huge

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You asked for 1 team.

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Re: Niners
« Reply #194 on: February 20, 2020, 01:20:10 PM »
You asked for 1 team.

And you gave him two. 

Ron please cancel that trophy icon request . . . .

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Re: Niners
« Reply #195 on: February 22, 2020, 01:37:56 PM »
And you gave him two. 

Ron please cancel that trophy icon request . . . .

where did i ask for just one?  i said name a team, you named none and then you had your big brother "humble narccissist" step in only for me to set him straight too :D

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Re: Niners
« Reply #196 on: April 14, 2020, 10:44:07 AM »
I'm hoping for that Ruggs kid from Alabama, but will be happy if they get any quality WR in the first. 

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Re: Niners
« Reply #197 on: April 29, 2020, 09:14:11 PM »
I was yelling at the TV and the ghost of Al Davis when Chucky drafted Ruggs right before my Niners could get him, but I'm happy with the outcome.  I think the Niners will contend again this coming season, if we have an NFL season.   >:(

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Re: Niners
« Reply #198 on: September 28, 2020, 11:55:48 AM »
Curse that injury bug. 

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Re: Niners
« Reply #199 on: September 28, 2020, 12:19:33 PM »
NYG really stink.