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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2009, 10:40:14 PM »
The IDF is a terrorist force backed by the United States of America, also Israeli is a illegal country and is being prosecuted by the UN now for war crimes against the Palestinians in the second holocaust they have brought down upon them.  Only after the rest of the world spat out the jews for being money hungry not wanting to work losers did Hitler take on the problem head on.  The world felt sorry for them and forgot the past injustices the jews spat upon them and gave them a place to live and leech off people.

Second when you fight the Islamic fighters in Iraq you would have to be kidding if you expect them to fight a stand up war against you, tactically it isn't fair, so they have to fight with what they have.  They were invaded illegally and are fighting the only way they can with what they have, all praise to Allah for the men they have killed and more to kill in the future.  

Let's not forget when the Christian's lost the holy land to the superior Arabs, the Arabs showed them the compasion the Christians did not have themselves when they murdered Muslim's earlier when they invaded a city like animals they are.  Here is a clip of a movie that may remind you :



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On Israel being an illegal country, I can't agree with that. It was there land for thousands of years, they were there first, many of them still lived there during the period it was called Palestine.

As for war crimes, what else was Israel supposed to do? You have a country full of people who want to kill you and try and so so, many times very successfully every day...they had to do something. The Israeli government has made every attempt to coexist with the Palestinians many times over, but nothing is good enough unless they leave.

Even if you don't agree with the country of Israel being called "Israel" the notion that this land is not theirs now is a pretty tough argument to back.

The Palestinian people have every opportunity to coexist with the Jewish population and prosper and thrive. They choose not to by their own free will...a free will they wouldn't have if that country became Palestine again because odds are it would be run like most Muslim nations...run by a tyrannical government and run straight into the ground.

x2 where do you think we crossed the moral line, I think growing up in the 40's - 60's would have been great if America stayed that way and same frame of mind.

When we became to self-involved. When our own comforts became our primary concern. People no longer desire to work for anything they have, any work they put into anything is going to be to fulfill their own personal whims. Ideas such as virtue, integrity, pride in ones self, and actual justice for crime or immorality are long gone....replaced by how can I entertain myself right now, how can I get myself off, because that's all that seems to matter to most people anymore.

I'm not saying everyone in the U.S. is of this mind frame....there are still good people. It's simply the majority that make up the type of person I'm describing and it's affecting our society as a whole.

Our economic downturn, it has taken away many self pleasures from people...a lot of people probably aren't able to watch as much porn and it's killing them. The notion that our failing economy is having any real effect on more important matters means very little to most people. Most people have the "give me what I want" mentality, yet they believe they deserve what they want because at some point in time, their mother and father made a baby and 9 months later they popped out.

They demand social justice when personal pleasures are swiped at, true justice where it is needed means nothing anymore. Virtue and integrity have been replaced by laziness and loathing a neighbors possessions. Pride in ones self has been replaced with pride in the shirt you're wearing, and the car you drive. Self worth is measured by what clubs you can get into, how hot the girl was you slept with last night and even how much you can screw over your work place by slacking off instead of actually working and trying to get ahead more in life.

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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2009, 07:09:52 AM »
What I don't understand is why our Government is strictly focused on pro baseball and not the NFL? It doesn't take much upstairs to understand the contributions juice makes for this sport.

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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2009, 10:41:04 AM »
because like they said on espn baseball is about numbers and when you juice and get more numbers it fucks up the stats....football is more of a barbaric sport and the bigger guys get to kill each other the more people wanna watch. and back to the topic about parents being role models alot of you guys are right my dad almost went to the nfl but knocked my mom up and instead of doing what was best for him he did what he could for us and that was pretty much living through us. which to me him being there living out his dream was alot better than not being there at all and misguiding us my dad always taught me dont ever try and be "like mike" or LT be yourself and i wish more parents would think liek that rather than dumping there kids off to a tv and a sports guy who is more than likely an asshole.

I was a little kid and i went to football camp and met emmit smith....was the biggest dick ive ever met as child and ever since then ive always wanted to be better than that

soo yaeh athletes get looked up to but they shouldnt....I hate at my university after practice these kids come and ask us to sign stuff and i feel bad they look up to me and im just looking for the next kegger to go to after practice...(sounds bad i know)

but yeah parents need to be more into raising there kids to be better and themselves not someone else I think here we just glorify celebs way to much and they prolly worse off than us just do something a little better


Is juicing bad? not really if you account all the money and shit you put in your body with pro hormones (alot of kids bought them when i was in high school a couple years back) creatine protein NO xplode all that shit and money why not just spend less on juice and be safe about it? just my take you'd be surprised more kids my age and younger are juicing as long as your safe and study it i dont see a problem

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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2009, 08:12:53 PM »
We are getting off topic a lot, but this is mainly G and O stuff.

You guys took a topic that was somewhat AAS and turned it in to a religion/moralistic debate.

Keep it on topic or this shit will be moved to the Gossip section so Alex23 and friends can contribute.   ::)



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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2009, 08:16:52 PM »
On Israel being an illegal country, I can't agree with that. It was there land for thousands of years, they were there first, many of them still lived there during the period it was called Palestine.

As for war crimes, what else was Israel supposed to do? You have a country full of people who want to kill you and try and so so, many times very successfully every day...they had to do something. The Israeli government has made every attempt to coexist with the Palestinians many times over, but nothing is good enough unless they leave.

Even if you don't agree with the country of Israel being called "Israel" the notion that this land is not theirs now is a pretty tough argument to back.

The Palestinian people have every opportunity to coexist with the Jewish population and prosper and thrive. They choose not to by their own free will...a free will they wouldn't have if that country became Palestine again because odds are it would be run like most Muslim nations...run by a tyrannical government and run straight into the ground.

When we became to self-involved. When our own comforts became our primary concern. People no longer desire to work for anything they have, any work they put into anything is going to be to fulfill their own personal whims. Ideas such as virtue, integrity, pride in ones self, and actual justice for crime or immorality are long gone....replaced by how can I entertain myself right now, how can I get myself off, because that's all that seems to matter to most people anymore.

I'm not saying everyone in the U.S. is of this mind frame....there are still good people. It's simply the majority that make up the type of person I'm describing and it's affecting our society as a whole.

Our economic downturn, it has taken away many self pleasures from people...a lot of people probably aren't able to watch as much porn and it's killing them. The notion that our failing economy is having any real effect on more important matters means very little to most people. Most people have the "give me what I want" mentality, yet they believe they deserve what they want because at some point in time, their mother and father made a baby and 9 months later they popped out.

They demand social justice when personal pleasures are swiped at, true justice where it is needed means nothing anymore. Virtue and integrity have been replaced by laziness and loathing a neighbors possessions. Pride in ones self has been replaced with pride in the shirt you're wearing, and the car you drive. Self worth is measured by what clubs you can get into, how hot the girl was you slept with last night and even how much you can screw over your work place by slacking off instead of actually working and trying to get ahead more in life.


About Israeli, it was created in 1948, previously it was Palestine.  The jews never lived much there at all, they were Diasporas people.  Not by choice, but because of there actions.  They always poison a country with there evil ways of grubbing for money and power.  It is in there nature, they can't help it.  That is why the jews have been kicked out of almost every country in Europe in earlier times. 

The Palestinians are only trying to get back what is rightfully theirs.  It would be like if the Chinese took of the US, the US people would form small militias to fight them back, some people would be content and not fight back as well.  You cannot blame the freedom fighters for fighting for the right to live in their own country again.

I could not have worded your second part better about the US though, I agree 100% what you say and you are very well versed in talking about that, I can't debate you on that.

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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2009, 11:22:22 PM »
OK who else is tired of the Inquisition trying to tar and feather A-Rod, Bonds and Clemens?  Its BS and there are crack heads shooting each other with illegal firearms, fucked up economy, 2 of the most mismanaged wars in American history going on and they are bringing federal cases against these guys that are pressured by millions to do a few cycles for personal use and they are bringing freaking FEDERAL cases against them.............costing millions of tax payer dollars while people cannot collect unemployment b/c they got laid off and the government is out of $$$.......over some fucking juice from years ago........all pros use "banned substances" get over it and keep it on the DL nobody is going to run a 4.6 40 yard dash at 6'5 270lbs its just not going to happen w/o "supplements" and we all love our sports. What the hell caused this steroid paranoia?  This crap is down right ridiculous.  I understand that teens in sports are going to feel like its a good idea but with propper education they will realize it will only ruin their abilities and that juice is only prudent under the supervision of a doctor and when they are in their mid 20s.  I do see this all the time as I am in "education" for a profession and if any of the kids came up to me i would tell them (and have on several occasions, and called parents to let them know their kids inquired about getting gear in the locker room) they are crazy to use anything other than creatine, glutemine and whey.  What started this AAS witch hunt?  It makes me want to just slap journalist, FEDERAL prosecutors, and politicans.....

You make sense. I was discussing this with someone the other day. Drugs are here to stay (in sports). Let it be...we have bigger issues to deal with. You can't expect these guys to play clean when there are millions at stake, all based on performance.

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Re: The "rocket" and A-rod
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2009, 03:13:48 PM »
You make sense. I was discussing this with someone the other day. Drugs are here to stay (in sports). Let it be...we have bigger issues to deal with. You can't expect these guys to play clean when there are millions at stake, all based on performance.

In the future, try paragraphs, please.

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