Obama vs Romney

[Soul Crusher]

This Is The Poll That Should Really Scare Barack Obama



Grace Wyler|Jul. 19, 2012, 10:43 AM|2,887|27
 
AP
 
Everyone in the political world is buzzing about a new New York Times/CBS poll that has Mitt Romney leading President Barack Obama by one point, and shows the incumbent slipping on economic issues and — most alarmingly — in favorability.
 
Although the poll isn't exactly good news for Obama, all of the numbers are still within the statistical margin of error, so Chicago probably isn't panicking yet.
 
But there is another new survey out today that should really scare the Obama campaign.
 
A new Quinnipiac poll from Virginia shows that Romney has caught up with the Obama in the Old Dominion state, and is now in a dead heat with the President at 44 percent to 44 percent.
 
That compares to a 50-42 percent lead for Obama in March, and a 47-42 percent Obama lead last month.
 
As we have pointed out before, the 2012 presidential election will likely come down to just a handful of battleground states, so national polling numbers don't matter as much as those in key swing states.
 
Virginia, with its 13 electoral college votes, is one of those states with the potential to determine the outcome of the election for either candidate. Obama took the state in 2008 with 52.7 percent of the vote, becoming the only Democrat to win Virginia since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964, and Republicans are eager to put the Old Dominion back in their column.
 
And this poll shows that it is going to be a dogfight to win over Virginia voters, particularly key independents.
 
"Virginia voters are sharply split along gender and political lines about the presidential race. The two candidates equally hold their own political bases and are splitting the key independent vote down the middle," Peter Brown, assistant director of Quinnipiac University's Polling Institute said in a release.
 
"One small edge that President Barack Obama has is likability. Voters have a slightly more favorable opinion of the president than they do Gov. Mitt Romney," Brown added. "But neither man is exactly Mr. Popularity: Romney has a negative 39 - 42 percent favorability, compared to Obama's divided 46 - 48 percent. One of them is going to win the White House, but neither would get elected Prom King."
 
Now find out which other states could swing the election > 


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-romney-tie-virginia-poll-2012-7#ixzz215dOW5Wj

[whork]

Khalid al mansour helped to put barrack hussein obama through harvard law school.


Barrack hussein obama has very extensive ties to pakistan.


Barrack hussein obama is ineligeble for the presidency.


Barrack hussein obama studied at a madrasa as a young man and learned to memorize the koran.

And you are an idiot

[Soul Crusher]

And you are an idiot

Watch and learn jackass.   Again - you know nothing about the messiah you kneepad

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/mitt-romney-virginia_n_1685486.html

Meltdown.   LMFAO 


Leftists crying again. 

[tu_holmes]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/mitt-romney-virginia_n_1685486.html

Meltdown.   LMFAO 


Leftists crying again. 

Obama shot himself in the foot with his comments in Roanoke last week... What a fucking moron.

[Dos Equis]

Not much return on investment.

Obama spends nearly $30 million more than Romney in June
Posted by
CNN Political Unit

(CNN) – Documents filed with the Federal Election Commission Friday show President Barack Obama's presidential campaign raised $46 million in June and spent $58 million.

Meanwhile, his Republican challenger Mitt Romney brought in $33 million through his campaign, and spent $27.5 million. The Republican candidate's spending last month was nearly doubled from in May, when his campaign spent just over $15 million.

The filings from Friday indicated that the Romney campaign finished June with $22.5 million cash on hand, while Obama's campaign had $97.5 million in the bank.

Earlier this month both organizations released their joint fund-raising numbers with their respective party committees. Those figures showed the Republicans bringing in approximately $100 million, compared to the $71 million raised by Obama and the Democrats.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/20/obama-spends-nearly-30-million-more-than-romney-in-june/

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Rasmussen: Bain Attacks Not working
Friday, 20 Jul 2012
By Scott Rasmussen

Over the past few weeks, President Barack Obama and his campaign team have launched a furious attack on Mitt Romney's record as head of Bain Capital, a highly successful venture capital firm.

There is clear evidence that the attacks have had some impact. Forty-one percent of voters now see Romney's record in the private sector primarily as a reason to vote for him, but an equal number see that record as a reason to vote against the GOP challenger. That negative perception is up 8 points over the past couple of months.

Yet while raising negative perceptions of Romney's record in business, the Bain attacks have failed to bring about any change in the overall race for the White House. For weeks, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll has shown the president's support stuck between 44 percent and 46 percent every day. Romney's numbers are in a similar rut -- 44 percent to 47 percent.

One reason for the lack of impact is that the Bain attacks have not reached a point where they raise doubts about Romney's character. Sixty-seven percent of voters believe the former governor of Massachusetts is at least as ethical as most politicians. Comparing Romney to other politicians may not be setting the bar very high, but that's his peer group these days. Using the same standard, the president doesn't measure up quite as well: Just 60 percent believe he is at least as ethical as most politicians.

Perhaps even more important, though, is that voters are trying to look forward rather than back. Regardless of what Romney did in his private sector past, voters have come to see a clear distinction between the candidates on the trade-offs between economic growth and economic fairness. It's not a distinction about a laundry list of issues or a particular legislative strategy; it's a distinction about the role the government should play in the economy.

Voters overwhelmingly think it's important to create an environment that encourages economic growth. Nearly as many believe it's important for the government to create an environment that ensures economic fairness. But if there's a choice to be made, voters have a very strong preference for making growth the priority. Sixty-two percent of voters hold that view, while just 30 percent think using government to ensure fairness is more important.

Republicans and unaffiliated voters see growth as more important. Democrats are evenly divided.

That's a perspective that puts the president squarely on the defensive. Most voters believe Obama places a higher value on ensuring economic fairness. Two-thirds think Romney shares the public priority placing economic growth at the top of the list.

Adding to the incumbent's political challenge is the fact that just 19 percent of unaffiliated voters think the president is committed to emphasizing growth over fairness.

The president's attacks on Romney's time at Bain Capital have succeeded in raising some doubts about the challenger, but by highlighting his role as a venture capitalist, the attacks also have reinforced the belief that Romney sees economic growth as his top priority. There is nothing better for the challenger than a race where he is seen as the candidate of economic growth.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/rasmussen-bain-attacks-campaign/2012/07/20/id/446070

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Rasmussen: Bain Attacks Not working
Friday, 20 Jul 2012
By Scott Rasmussen

Over the past few weeks, President Barack Obama and his campaign team have launched a furious attack on Mitt Romney's record as head of Bain Capital, a highly successful venture capital firm.

There is clear evidence that the attacks have had some impact. Forty-one percent of voters now see Romney's record in the private sector primarily as a reason to vote for him, but an equal number see that record as a reason to vote against the GOP challenger. That negative perception is up 8 points over the past couple of months.

Yet while raising negative perceptions of Romney's record in business, the Bain attacks have failed to bring about any change in the overall race for the White House. For weeks, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll has shown the president's support stuck between 44 percent and 46 percent every day. Romney's numbers are in a similar rut -- 44 percent to 47 percent.

One reason for the lack of impact is that the Bain attacks have not reached a point where they raise doubts about Romney's character. Sixty-seven percent of voters believe the former governor of Massachusetts is at least as ethical as most politicians. Comparing Romney to other politicians may not be setting the bar very high, but that's his peer group these days. Using the same standard, the president doesn't measure up quite as well: Just 60 percent believe he is at least as ethical as most politicians.

Perhaps even more important, though, is that voters are trying to look forward rather than back. Regardless of what Romney did in his private sector past, voters have come to see a clear distinction between the candidates on the trade-offs between economic growth and economic fairness. It's not a distinction about a laundry list of issues or a particular legislative strategy; it's a distinction about the role the government should play in the economy.

Voters overwhelmingly think it's important to create an environment that encourages economic growth. Nearly as many believe it's important for the government to create an environment that ensures economic fairness. But if there's a choice to be made, voters have a very strong preference for making growth the priority. Sixty-two percent of voters hold that view, while just 30 percent think using government to ensure fairness is more important.

Republicans and unaffiliated voters see growth as more important. Democrats are evenly divided.

That's a perspective that puts the president squarely on the defensive. Most voters believe Obama places a higher value on ensuring economic fairness. Two-thirds think Romney shares the public priority placing economic growth at the top of the list.

Adding to the incumbent's political challenge is the fact that just 19 percent of unaffiliated voters think the president is committed to emphasizing growth over fairness.

The president's attacks on Romney's time at Bain Capital have succeeded in raising some doubts about the challenger, but by highlighting his role as a venture capitalist, the attacks also have reinforced the belief that Romney sees economic growth as his top priority. There is nothing better for the challenger than a race where he is seen as the candidate of economic growth.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/rasmussen-bain-attacks-campaign/2012/07/20/id/446070

Ras now has Obama up by 1 point....I don't think its the Bain issue....however the offshore bank account and his whimsical refusals to see tax records is killing him. 

[Soul Crusher]

Obama also spent 30 million more last month than Romney on negative attack ads. 

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The Hill Poll: Voters blame president most for slow economic recovery
By Sheldon Alberts - 07/23/12

Two-thirds of likely voters say the weak economy is Washington’s fault, and more blame President Obama than anybody else, according to a new poll for The Hill.

It found that 66 percent believe paltry job growth and slow economic recovery is the result of bad policy. Thirty-four percent say Obama is the most to blame, followed by 23 percent who say Congress is the culprit. Twenty percent point the finger at Wall Street, and 18 percent cite former President George W. Bush.


The results highlight the reelection challenge Obama faces amid dissatisfaction with his first-term performance on the economy.

The poll, conducted for The Hill by Pulse Opinion Research, found 53 percent of voters say Obama has taken the wrong actions and has slowed the economy down. Forty-two percent said he has taken the right actions to revive the economy, while six percent said they were not sure.

Obama has argued throughout the presidential campaign that his policies have made the economy better. He says recovery is taking a long time because he inherited such deep economic trouble upon taking office in 2009.

“The problems we’re facing right now have been more than a decade in the making,” he told an audience last month in Cleveland.

Obama’s campaign, under the slogan “Forward,” has sought to steer voter attention less toward current and past economic performance and more toward questions about Republican Mitt Romney’s work in the private sector economy. It has launched attacks on the challenger’s role as head of the private equity firm Bain Capital, casting him as a jobs “outsourcer” whose firm shipped thousands of U.S. positions overseas.

The Hill Poll, however, shows the extent to which voters hold Obama responsible for the economy and reveals his vulnerability should the election become primarily a referendum on his economic management.

It finds that voters strongly believe more could have been done by the White House and in Congress to achieve growth in the economy and employment.

While 64 percent of voters consider this downturn to be “much more severe” than previous contractions, barely one quarter (26 percent) say the agonizingly slow pace of the recovery was unavoidable.

While voters feel Obama carries a greater portion of the blame than others, the poll found almost 6-in-10 are unhappy with the actions of Republicans in Congress who have challenged the president on an array of policy initiatives.

Fifty-seven percent of voters said congressional Republicans have impeded the recovery with their policies, and only 30 percent overall believe the GOP has done the right things to boost the economy.

The tension between a Republican-controlled House of Representatives and a Democratic-run White House has also featured in Obama’s campaign strategy.

In his economic speech last month in Cleveland, Obama cast the 2012 election as a chance to choose between two competing visions for the nation.

“What’s holding us back is a stalemate in Washington between two fundamentally different views of which direction America should take,” he said. “This election is your chance to break that stalemate.”

Romney agrees that the election is a choice between two radically different views of America, but he characterizes it as a contest between his own vision of an industrious people free to achieve their dreams and Obama’s faith in big government.

If there is a silver lining for Obama in the poll results, it’s that centrist voters, who may well decide the 2012 outcome, tend to blame Republicans in Congress more than the president for hindering a more robust recovery.

Twenty-six percent of centrists cited Congress as most to blame for U.S. economic woes, compared to 20 percent who blame Obama.

Similarly, 53 percent of centrists said Obama has taken the right actions as president to boost the economy, compared with 38 percent who said he had taken the wrong steps.

Seventy-nine percent of centrist voters said Republicans had slowed the economy by taking wrong actions. Only 13 percent of centrists credited GOP lawmakers with policies that have helped the economy.

The poll found sharp differences in opinions along racial lines, with 94 percent of African-Americans saying Obama had taken the right actions on the economy, compared to 34 percent of white voters.

The Hill poll was conducted July 19 among 1,000 likely voters, and has a 3 percentage point margin of error.

http://thehill.com/polls/239377-the-hill-poll-majority-of-voters-blame-president-for-bad-economy

[Soul Crusher]

The base vote of obama that is anywhere from 40-47% who are mostly leeches and parasites don't feel the impact of his communist policies.   

The Hill Poll: Voters blame president most for slow economic recovery
By Sheldon Alberts - 07/23/12

Two-thirds of likely voters say the weak economy is Washington’s fault, and more blame President Obama than anybody else, according to a new poll for The Hill.

It found that 66 percent believe paltry job growth and slow economic recovery is the result of bad policy. Thirty-four percent say Obama is the most to blame, followed by 23 percent who say Congress is the culprit. Twenty percent point the finger at Wall Street, and 18 percent cite former President George W. Bush.


The results highlight the reelection challenge Obama faces amid dissatisfaction with his first-term performance on the economy.

The poll, conducted for The Hill by Pulse Opinion Research, found 53 percent of voters say Obama has taken the wrong actions and has slowed the economy down. Forty-two percent said he has taken the right actions to revive the economy, while six percent said they were not sure.

Obama has argued throughout the presidential campaign that his policies have made the economy better. He says recovery is taking a long time because he inherited such deep economic trouble upon taking office in 2009.

“The problems we’re facing right now have been more than a decade in the making,” he told an audience last month in Cleveland.

Obama’s campaign, under the slogan “Forward,” has sought to steer voter attention less toward current and past economic performance and more toward questions about Republican Mitt Romney’s work in the private sector economy. It has launched attacks on the challenger’s role as head of the private equity firm Bain Capital, casting him as a jobs “outsourcer” whose firm shipped thousands of U.S. positions overseas.

The Hill Poll, however, shows the extent to which voters hold Obama responsible for the economy and reveals his vulnerability should the election become primarily a referendum on his economic management.

It finds that voters strongly believe more could have been done by the White House and in Congress to achieve growth in the economy and employment.

While 64 percent of voters consider this downturn to be “much more severe” than previous contractions, barely one quarter (26 percent) say the agonizingly slow pace of the recovery was unavoidable.

While voters feel Obama carries a greater portion of the blame than others, the poll found almost 6-in-10 are unhappy with the actions of Republicans in Congress who have challenged the president on an array of policy initiatives.

Fifty-seven percent of voters said congressional Republicans have impeded the recovery with their policies, and only 30 percent overall believe the GOP has done the right things to boost the economy.

The tension between a Republican-controlled House of Representatives and a Democratic-run White House has also featured in Obama’s campaign strategy.

In his economic speech last month in Cleveland, Obama cast the 2012 election as a chance to choose between two competing visions for the nation.

“What’s holding us back is a stalemate in Washington between two fundamentally different views of which direction America should take,” he said. “This election is your chance to break that stalemate.”

Romney agrees that the election is a choice between two radically different views of America, but he characterizes it as a contest between his own vision of an industrious people free to achieve their dreams and Obama’s faith in big government.

If there is a silver lining for Obama in the poll results, it’s that centrist voters, who may well decide the 2012 outcome, tend to blame Republicans in Congress more than the president for hindering a more robust recovery.

Twenty-six percent of centrists cited Congress as most to blame for U.S. economic woes, compared to 20 percent who blame Obama.

Similarly, 53 percent of centrists said Obama has taken the right actions as president to boost the economy, compared with 38 percent who said he had taken the wrong steps.

Seventy-nine percent of centrist voters said Republicans had slowed the economy by taking wrong actions. Only 13 percent of centrists credited GOP lawmakers with policies that have helped the economy.

The poll found sharp differences in opinions along racial lines, with 94 percent of African-Americans saying Obama had taken the right actions on the economy, compared to 34 percent of white voters.

The Hill poll was conducted July 19 among 1,000 likely voters, and has a 3 percentage point margin of error.

http://thehill.com/polls/239377-the-hill-poll-majority-of-voters-blame-president-for-bad-economy

[Soul Crusher]

Deficit: Obama Campaign Takes In $46 Million in June, Spends $58 Million
 Townhall.com ^ | July 23, 2012 | Guy Benson




At first blush, associating Barack Obama with deficits of any sort seems like a complete non-story.  After all, this is the president who has presided over four consecutive trillion-plus dollar deficits after pledging to slice that number in half by the end of this term.  He's also the man whose unanimously rejected FY 2013 budget would literally never balance, generating additional deficits as far as the eye can see.  Nevertheless, seeing red ink splattered on Obama's re-election campaign's balance sheet still feels strange.  This group once boasted that it would raise a billion dollars for this cycle -- and despite Obama's recent implications to the contrary, the facts show that his operation widely outspent his opponent's in the last election.  So what to make of this?
   


President Obama outspent Mitt Romney 2 to 1 in June even as Mr. Romney far outraised him, according to campaign reports filed on Friday with the Federal Election Commission, leaving Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party with significantly less cash on hand than Mr. Romney and the Republicans as polls show a head-to-head race. Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee spent $70.8 million in June, including about $38 million on television advertising, as the president’s campaign sought to batter Mr. Romney over his ties to Bain Capital, the private equity firm. Mr. Romney and the Republican National Committee spent $38.8 million, including about $11 million on television advertising — more than double what Mr. Romney’s campaign spent in May but far less than Mr. Obama.

 
 In terms of direct contributions, the Obama campaign "reported more than $46 million in June and total spending of $58 million," a $12 million gap.  Still, as Kevin reported over the weekend, Obama's claim of being victimized by overwhelming Republican money isn't exactly accurate.  The president continues to crush Romney in spending, overall and in swing states.  Much of this advantage can be attributed to campaign laws, which do not permit Romney to spend his recent cash spike until after he officially becomes the Republican nominee in late August.  With the law and the calendar on his side for the moment, Obama has poured roughly $100 million into (overwhelmingly negative) ads, hoping to define his opponent in voters' minds.  Obama donors may be wondering about their return on investment.  National Journal notices that polling trends suggest that Obama hasn't managed to seize the moment:



 The first round of polls is out after President Obama’s Bain attacks against Mitt Romney and the results aren’t good news for the White House. By themselves, the national toplines are discouraging enough: Romney holds a (statistically-insignificant) 47 to 46 percent lead in the new New York Times/CBS poll, and the president is stuck at 47 percent in recent polls by Fox News and NPR.  But beneath the head-to-head numbers, the results foreshadow tough times ahead for Obama. Voters appear to be processing the worsening economic news belatedly, and their pessimism shows. In the CBS/NYT poll, Obama’s job approval dropped to 44 percent, with only 39 percent approving of his economic performance -- down five points from April. For the first time since January, more voters now think the economy is getting worse. Nearly two-thirds of voters now place some blame on the president for the weak economic conditions, with 34 percent giving him “significant” responsibility, and an outright 52 percent majority of independents believe Obama will “never improve” the economy. These aren’t numbers that victories are made of.


 Another red flag for Team Obama is the president's crumbling favorability ratings, a troubling departure from his previous strength:
 

 Note well that Obama is underwater on the favorability question, generally his strong suit, by double digits.  More Americans are developing a poor overall perception of Obama the man, independent from their misgivings about his leadership...Obama's favorability with independents is -- wait for it -- 28/52 (!), with Romney actually above water at 32/31.


 The question the media should be asking is not how much Obama's Bain attacks are hurting Romney; it's whether Obama's Bain attacks are hurting Obama.  I'll leave you with this related nugget, reported by the Weekly Standard over the weekend.  Remember The One's big May re-elect kickoff event in Columbus?  His campaign spent nearly $93,000 to rent a large arena -- and ended up with thousands of empty seats:
 


 

 This turnout fell well short of Chicago's expectations:
 

 "The Obama campaign expects overflow crowds ... as part of carefully orchestrated optics. Aides want to portray the president as still highly popular among young people and still able to energize large crowds."


 Hyped expectations, disappointing results, huge expenditures and resulting deficits.  Sound familiar?

[240 is Back]

The base vote of obama that is anywhere from 40-47% who are mostly leeches and parasites don't feel the impact of his communist policies.  

will he win in novemeber?  Mccain got 47% last time, didn't he?

[Soul Crusher]

will he win in novemeber?  Mccain got 47% last time, didn't he?

I don't know - Romney is running a terrible campaign, obama is running a burn all bridges campaign, obama wont get the turnout like he did, will the VEEP pick matter?, 5 more bad jobs reports impact?, will the debates matter? Any black swan events in the next few months?, 


A lot of weird shit going on this election cycle.

Obama should lose by 70-30 in a sane world, but we dont live in a sane world anymore.  If Obamugabe were a while politician from boston running on his disastrous record he would have been primaried and/or lose massively. 

The Demos know Obama has been a disaster, but they can't risk alienating the black vote by dumping obama, due to future elections. 

Romney sucks and does not energize the base but he does not scare indes. 


Everything is all fucked up this election cycle.   

[tu_holmes]

I don't know - Romney is running a terrible campaign, obama is running a burn all bridges campaign, obama wont get the turnout like he did, will the VEEP pick matter?, 5 more bad jobs reports impact?, will the debates matter? Any black swan events in the next few months?, 


A lot of weird shit going on this election cycle.

Obama should lose by 70-30 in a sane world, but we dont live in a sane world anymore.  If Obamugabe were a while politician from boston running on his disastrous record he would have been primaried and/or lose massively. 

The Demos know Obama has been a disaster, but they can't risk alienating the black vote by dumping obama, due to future elections. 

Romney sucks and does not energize the base but he does not scare indes. 


Everything is all fucked up this election cycle.   

One of your more sensible posts.

And I agree completely.

[240 is Back]

33, I guess what i'm saying is this...

You're saying 5 more jobs reports will have some big impact... But it's been 41 straight months of shiity job reports, dude.  And obama still leading or tied in everything.  People willing to bet millions are sure obama will win.

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33, I guess what i'm saying is this...

You're saying 5 more jobs reports will have some big impact... But it's been 41 straight months of shiity job reports, dude.  And obama still leading or tied in everything.  People willing to bet millions are sure obama will win.

The bad jobs reports will depress obama turnout. 

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The bad jobs reports will depress obama turnout. 

yet they don't affect polls.   I dont konw if your logic holds up.

[Soul Crusher]

yet they don't affect polls.   I dont konw if your logic holds up.

That is because to actually vote those lazy parasites and locusts that make up the obama core base have to get their bedroom slippers on and stagger in their drunken stupor down to the polling place. 

Less likely this time around.   

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That is because to actually vote those lazy parasites and locusts that make up the obama core base have to get their bedroom slippers on and stagger in their drunken stupor down to the polling place. 

Less likely this time around.   

Why do you think intrade, 538, and others oddsmakers organizations are betting hundreds of millions of $ on obama winning?

Are they all suddenly stupid (after being accurate up until now?)

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Why do you think intrade, 538, and others oddsmakers organizations are betting hundreds of millions of $ on obama winning?

Are they all suddenly stupid (after being accurate up until now?)

Intrade had the mandate going down 75%. 

[240 is Back]

Intrade had the mandate going down 75%. 

if you had to bet your gun collection - does romney defeat obama, 333386?

[240 is Back]

Intrade had the mandate going down 75%. 

and it would have, if the complete unthinkable would have happened - John Roberts flipped.

That's ONE MAN.  We're talking about 100 million voters.  trends that big are way easier to predict, than what one man will do. 

[Soul Crusher]

if you had to bet your gun collection - does romney defeat obama, 333386?

Can't tell yet.   I think its 50/50 at this point TBH.  

Romney is running a milquetoast panzie ass campaign and Obama has his core base of racists, leeches, govt workers, communists, gays, etc.  

Right now I see it as 47-47 - and the middle 6-8% deciding this.  

[tu_holmes]

Can't tell yet.   I think its 50/50 at this point TBH. 

Romney is running a milquetoast panzie ass campaign and Obama has his core base of racists, leeches, govt workers, communists, gays, etc. 

Right now I see it as 47-47 - and the middle 6-8% deciding this. 

That's pretty much every election since 1988.