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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Wiggs on March 13, 2013, 08:48:13 AM
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5'8, 225-230, shredded back in 1987-1988. Huge guy, great physique, little narrow but great guy nonetheless.
Whatever happened to him? Why'd he quit competing? I'm impressed that this physique was built without the massive dosages we see today. Dude even has the vacuum pose he can pull off with a super small waist.
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Unbeatable combination of Phil Heath and Dan Hill
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Unbeatable combination of Phil Heath and Dan Hill
Heathesk width with Hillesk...last name. = win
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looks like a criminal
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Holy shit this insane! Especially considering it was 1987. Lovely elevator music btw.
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He won the NOC and then supposedly got fucked at the 'O. Pulled kind of a Vic Richards kind of thing and competed just a few times after.
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He won the NOC and then supposedly got fucked at the 'O. Pulled kind of a Vic Richards kind of thing and competed just a few times after.
Outside of his width, I'm very impressed. His quads/waist/abs complex is fucking sick. incredible back double bicep also.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57466.0
Read shawn ray's comment about phil hill, interesting
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57466.0
Read shawn ray's comment about phil hill, interesting
Shawn got pwned by onswole, that's what I see. lol
I see Shawn's point and obviously he had the better career but Phil did beat him 2 of 3 times in direct competition.
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http://www.bustedmugshots.com/new-jersey/camden/philip-hill/48056881
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5'8, 225-230, shredded back in 1987-1988. Huge guy, great physique, little narrow but great guy nonetheless.
Whatever happened to him? Why'd he quit competing? I'm impressed that this physique was built without the massive dosages we see today. Dude even has the vacuum pose he can pull off with a super small waist.
wanna hear something hilarious?? in his day, he was criticized for having a thick waist!!
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wanna hear something hilarious?? in his day, he was criticized for having a thick waist!!
lol. Are you serious? WTF do we have today then? Even on Heath.
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I remember he wanted to be Mayor of Trenton, NJ. Wonder if he served? ;D
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Who gives a shit about bodybuilding it's 2013 now.
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Who gives a shit about bodybuilding it's 2013 now.
I do, as do many others.
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Great low full calves...he had a "fullness" to his muscles---but lack deep striated cuts.
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Huge arms and quads
Goes to say a lot, that back then, good proportions would entail a similar measurement of upper leg and waist, like a 29/30" quad and a 31/32" waist. That's what guys aimed for. Keeping a tight waist and developing quads as close to waist measurement as possible
Nowdays we have 32" quads and 34" + waists. Not quite the same goal
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(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hns22r.jpg)
:o
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(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hns22r.jpg)
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hahahahhahahhahahhahahha . I knew the horse pic was comin'. lol
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wanna hear something hilarious?? in his day, he was criticized for having a thick waist!!
That is correct and his fellow competitors criticized him for training with "light" weights.
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hahahahhahahhahahhahahha. I knew the horse pic was comin'. lol
;D
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That is correct and his fellow competitors criticized him for training with "light" weights.
What I find interesting is that people train today with these outrageous weights thanks to Ronnie changing that :-X
Yet guys like Phil Hill, Haney, Ray and other trained with what would be considered today "pussy weights" yet have some of the best physiques ever.
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(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hns22r.jpg)
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Groink needs to get out of the sun.
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lol at tbombz in ever shop. does that guy even post anymore?
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What I find interesting is that people train today with these outrageous weights thanks to Ronnie changing that :-X
Yet guys like Phil Hill, Haney, Ray and other trained with what would be considered today "pussy weights" yet have some of the best physiques ever.
Correction...Lee Haney trained with very heavy weights. Many of the guys in the 90's were just chasing the pump though.
Phil Hill looked like a bigger version of Nimrod King.
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Groink needs to get out of the sun.
Groink couldn't dream of having legs a quarter of this size.
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wiggs nice thread,,,he won a show in jersey to requalify in 87 nationals looking like that :o..someone mention nimrod king he had a massive chest and upper body,legs were not quite there,but nimrod placed well for a canadian..
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wiggs nice thread,,,he won a show in jersey to requalify in 87 nationals looking like that :o..someone mention nimrod king he had a massive chest and upper body,legs were not quite there,but nimrod placed well for a canadian..
i actually think nimrod (he says his name means 'great warrior',lol) won or placed top three in a few pro shows. the guy was a freak. bigger than phil hill i believe.
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lol. Are you serious? WTF do we have today then? Even on Heath.
'blocky' i believe was the term used.
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i actually think nimrod (he says his name means 'great warrior',lol) won or placed top three in a few pro shows. the guy was a freak. bigger than phil hill i believe.
UR RIGHT,I THINK HE WON THE NIAGRA FALLS OR PLACED AS U SAID TOP 3....
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Phil Hill was def a freak in the 80's
thick thick thick, esp his legs
a little narrow but a freak
the 88 Olympia was a travesty- crwod was going crazy that Phil hill didnt make top 10- non stop chanting Phil hill!
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(http://permanentplastichelmet.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/blackmon.jpg)
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word up hazbin is correct
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Nimrod king was known for teh chest
very very thick chest
i beleive he got into promoting BB shows?
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/hill/ph36.jpg)
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The guy was a beast :o!
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If Phil Hill competed today (on what today's Pro's take), he'd beat Phil Heath...
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If Phil Hill competed today (on what today's Pro's take), he'd beat Phil Heath...
HE SHOULD...
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5'8, 225-230, shredded back in 1987-1988. Huge guy, great physique, little narrow but great guy nonetheless.
Whatever happened to him? Why'd he quit competing? I'm impressed that this physique was built without the massive dosages we see today. Dude even has the vacuum pose he can pull off with a super small waist.
I don't know why he quit. Maybe one of the Weiders wanted him to blow a horse or something whacked out. All I know is, narrow clavicles aside, he is the most underrated freak this side of Aaron Baker. In fact, I say PH kicks Baker's ass. Giant, around arms, retarded big legs, very dense pecs, a good back ... he had it all. If you've seen that pic of him horse riding with a friend, his leg development from the side didn't even look human.
In a lot of respects he reminded me of Big "Betil" Fox, only with wheels and a superb back.
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crazy thickness. ridiculous forearms and bis! :o
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(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/542571_10200691994559463_1014649614_n.jpg)
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;D
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Holy shit this insane! Especially considering it was 1987. Lovely elevator music btw.
If you compare him to Kai and Jay who are the same height, his arms seem bigger, delts are better and his waist seem smaller. Quads, about the same in detail. Back more detailed than Jay's, but both are wider than him.
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hahaha
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(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/542571_10200691994559463_1014649614_n.jpg)
What a delusional cockhead
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(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/542571_10200691994559463_1014649614_n.jpg)
'me tarzan'where's jane,,,
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Yes his waist is much to big.
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/hill/ph36.jpg)
looks like a gorilla. props though.
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What I find interesting is that people train today with these outrageous weights thanks to Ronnie changing that :-X
Yet guys like Phil Hill, Haney, Ray and other trained with what would be considered today "pussy weights" yet have some of the best physiques ever.
In the Battle for the O's i saw, Shawn Ray was one who was training almost the heaviest
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hill reminds me of a later day lawrence samuels he was huge for the times and most times actually.
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In the Battle for the O's i saw, Shawn Ray was one who was training almost the heaviest
and he was fast paced, as well.hill reminds me of a later day lawrence samuels he was huge for the times and most times actually.
When I looked at the pics, I was thinking "where did Phil's low calves go?", but then I realized it wasn't Phil.
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What I find interesting is that people train today with these outrageous weights thanks to Ronnie changing that :-X
Yet guys like Phil Hill, Haney, Ray and other trained with what would be considered today "pussy weights" yet have some of the best physiques ever.
Well, in fairness to Shawn, he did some pretty fucking heavy training himself. I actually think he was a bit underrated in the strength department ... he was moving weights at 220ish that a good many decently strong guys 40-60 lbs. heavier would struggle with.
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Well, in fairness to Shawn, he did some pretty fucking heavy training himself. I actually think he was a bit underrated in the strength department ... he was moving weights at 220ish that a good many decently strong guys 40-60 lbs. heavier would struggle with.
150-180 pound dumbbells at 210-220 pounds.
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Ah, shit. The Grim Lifter and you beat me to it, Parker :D
Yeah, Shawn was strong. And he did move through a workout at a fairly rapid pace. I remember reading how Cormier couldn't keep pace with Shawn, which Ray said was the reason Chris didn't have striated glutes and all that.
That's complete bullshit, of course -- and I don't blame Cormier for taking his time between sets; if I don't, I go from respectably strong to a complete dork in short order -- but none of that has to do with Phil, so ...
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phil was/is a jersey boy, he was my old training partners cousin, my partner lived in trenton. talked to phil once or twice on phone n he always told me to eat alot of beef to get big, was pretty cool dude. that was twenty years ago or so though when i last talked to him
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150-180 pound dumbbells at 210-220 pounds.
There ya go.
I'm about Shawn's height and I know I'll never touch 180's for reps weighing under 220. Maybe 150's but I'm a machine pussy guy; it'd take me awhile to acclimate to 'bells again :D
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There ya go.
I'm about Shawn's height and I know I'll never touch 180's for reps weighing under 220. Maybe 150's but I'm a machine pussy guy; it'd take me awhile to acclimate to 'bells again :D
he said on Final Countdown that he wondered why guys like Fux, Dillett, and Nasser play around with 100 pound dumbbells and he is reppin with 150's. And during contest mode, 150's feel like 180s, and then he proceeds to incline press 150s.
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i heard stories that ray trained really hard n pretty heavy also, i remember some pros from my gym went out there n trained with shawn n said hes an animal when it comes to training
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I saw Phil train a couple of times.. He did a lot of super sets and giant sets.. Now some may think he trained " light" but the weight was respectable for what he was doing... As for gear all I can say is he used quite a bit from what his "friends " stated.. Truly he only real difference between the late 80 s and now is hgh and slin.. The anabolic s were stil very high..
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I saw Phil train a couple of times.. He did a lot of super sets and giant sets.. Now some may think he trained " light" but the weight was respectable for what he was doing... As for gear all I can say is he used quite a bit from what his "friends " stated.. Truly he only real difference between the late 80 s and now is hgh and slin.. The anabolic s were stil very high..
Any ideas as far as numbers, LATS ? Just curious. And thank you. :)
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Any ideas as far as numbers, LATS ? Just curious. And thank you. :)
X2
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I saw Phil train a couple of times.. He did a lot of super sets and giant sets.. Now some may think he trained " light" but the weight was respectable for what he was doing... As for gear all I can say is he used quite a bit from what his "friends " stated.. Truly he only real difference between the late 80 s and now is hgh and slin.. The anabolic s were stil very high..
In the 80's you had to have superior genetics, with today's drugs the Dan Hill's of the world can go places.
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and he was fast paced, as well.When I looked at the pics, I was thinking "where did Phil's low calves go?", but then I realized it wasn't Phil.
samuels trained light and died young. but he had some mass.