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Title: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 01:38:59 PM
I have  no idea who or what GH15 is. I do know he posts some interesting  or controversial stuff here at getbig.
I would simpy urge some good sense and caution if anyone considers following his drug cycle advice.
If you develop health problems, waste $$ or get busted, the annonymous internet guru won't be there to help.
I'm not sure just how effective his drug cycle tips are and don't care.

Why risk your health and finances on some extreme drug cycles?
So what if you won't be a huge freak? Most here seem to want a decent physique that  gets pussy and to enjoy life.
I'm 53 now and have dabbled in small amounts of steroids but never even considered insulin, diuretics or HGH.
Screwing around with your blood sugar or extreme manipulation of fluid levels for bodybuilding seems crazy to me.

If you want to be a future pro, you might consider Gh15's advice and ideals
To be a top pro, we all know what risks need to be taken .
If you dream of being on the Olympia stage, you might consider what GH15 says, I admit THAT . Drugs are not my area of expertise.
Just remember, you don't have to use extreme levels of drugs and take the risk, just  to be a regional bodybuilder.
It can be a healthy, functional lifestyle that enhances your life, instead of being your life.
Nobody requires you to  go the Gh15 drug cycle route just to build a decent physique and enjoy bodybuilding.

Now blast away and tell me how crazy and stupid I am hahaha.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Meso_z on October 25, 2011, 01:47:35 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: gh15 on October 25, 2011, 01:47:42 PM
and how do you think a professional become professional mr forest?

have you taken a look into some of the steorid boardings on internet? have you seen the number of amatuers all wanting to climb in levels? have you seen how much a regional level take inorder to hav ea chance CHANCE in getting noticed in nationals?

why dont you talk a litle with pupil leaf,, he can extend your knowledge,,

there is just no way you are that much of retard,, seriously i dont say retard as trying to humiliate you i say it becuase you seem to think that only inorder to be pro card holder you need to take the drugs,, NO! you have to get there,, ofcourse if you want to be stuck 4th place in some local show for rest of your life,, and have no life because you wil have no life what so ever then you can go natural BUT WAIT WAIT even they are not natural ,,,even they! use designer drugs and fat burners and lota other things,,

forest ,, to be honest with you ,, i dont think you are femiliar with your own cult,, do you know what a source list look like? do you know how many products are on supplier lists,, who do you think buy them? do you know the amount of emails a supplier get in a week? do you think its all pros? lol

i suggest you learn your cult ,, you are npc judge you shoudl knwo it already

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 01:57:08 PM
Dear GH15, I actually wrote that if someone wants to be a pro they might consider Gh15's advice on drug cycles.
I know the pros have to push the enevelope on tht stiff and admit drug cycles are not my expertise.
I don't know or care about drug order lists or clients on them . That is none of my business.

My point is, that you don't have to use extreme amounts of drugs just to be a regional level bodybuilder .
Most guys on here don't need drugs to get a 6 pack, lats, pecs and bi's and pull pussy on the weekends.
Bodybuilding with little or no steroids can be a wonderful , healthy lifestyle.
Plus, why piss away all that $$ on big drug cycles ? I say enjoy life and spend it having fun! :D

Bodybuilding should enhance the rest of your life, NOT become your entire life.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: apply85 on October 25, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
why do you think you agreeing or disagreeing matters, he does not need your approval, he shits on you dude
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Borracho on October 25, 2011, 02:01:33 PM
Howard does make very good points if the post was aimed at children. An adult should have the common sense to know about the possible consequences following gh15's advice. Children don't know any better Howard, but as an adult I find this insulting. So, Fuck you!
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on October 25, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
Howard ... you post this same shit month after month. Get a life, man. Pppppaaaattthhhhheeeeett tiiiiiccccccc !
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: gh15 on October 25, 2011, 02:22:06 PM
Dear GH15, I actually wrote that if someone wants to be a pro they might consider Gh15's advice on drug cycles.
I know the pros have to push the enevelope on tht stiff and admit drug cycles are not my expertise.
I don't know or care about drug order lists or clients on them . That is none of my business.

My point is, that you don't have to use extreme amounts of drugs just to be a regional level bodybuilder .
Most guys on here don't need drugs to get a 6 pack, lats, pecs and bi's and pull pussy on the weekends.
Bodybuilding with little or no steroids can be a wonderful , healthy lifestyle.
Plus, why piss away all that $$ on big drug cycles ? I say enjoy life and spend it having fun! :D

Bodybuilding should enhance the rest of your life, NOT become your entire life.

ummm most fellas here...dont give a fuck about pussy ,, they can get it with muscle and with out ,, most fellas here want to be bodybuild , live and breath it and want to be recognized as bodybuilders!,, pussy is easy to get they can get it with money and with personality and with good face and with anything ,, they can meet a girl online like all the other fellas now days,, most fellas here want to GET FROM POINT A TO B and LOOK ACTUALY LOOK like a bodybuilder

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: bike nut on October 25, 2011, 02:25:52 PM
Now blast away and tell me how crazy and stupid I am hahaha.

Why bother? You reinforce it with every post.  ::)
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:27:27 PM
ummm most fellas here...dont give a fuck about pussy ,, they can get it with muscle and with out ,, most fellas here want to be bodybuild , live and breath it and want to be recognized as bodybuilders!,, pussy is easy to get they can get it with money and with personality and with good face and with anything ,, they can meet a girl online like all the other fellas now days,, most fellas here want to GET FROM POINT A TO B and LOOK ACTUALY LOOK like a bodybuilder

gh15 approved
Hmmm, well Gh15, bodybuilding is just one part of my life , it doesn't consume my life.
I will never stand on the Olympia or pro stage but have enjoyed bodybuilding on my terms.

Once again, unless you want to go pro, you don't have to use big drug cycles to look like a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
Howard ... you post this same shit month after month. Get a life, man. Pppppaaaattthhhhheeeeett tiiiiiccccccc !
I am pretty crazy 'eh?
Hmmm let's see? I advocate useing small amounts or no drugs at all to maintain bodybuilding as a fun,healthy lifestyle.
Sounds pretty wacky to me, what do I know?
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:30:15 PM
Why bother? You reinforce it with every post.  ::)

LOL, yeah I'm the guy without good basic sense here hahaha
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
ummm most fellas here...dont give a fuck about pussy ,, they can get it with muscle and with out ,, most fellas here want to be bodybuild , live and breath it and want to be recognized as bodybuilders!,, pussy is easy to get they can get it with money and with personality and with good face and with anything ,, they can meet a girl online like all the other fellas now days,, most fellas here want to GET FROM POINT A TO B and LOOK ACTUALY LOOK like a bodybuilder

gh15 approved
Your ideas might be just fine for the top few gifted , motivated guys who want to be top bodybuilders.
I don't dispute that .
The reality is over90% of the guys on here would be spend less moey and enjoy bodybuilding more if they didn't use a lot of drugs.
If they want to go for it , fine , but nobody has to and they can still be a decent bodybuilder.
Why take the risks and piss away all the money on massive drug cycles? For what?
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: gh15 on October 25, 2011, 02:33:23 PM
Hmmm, well Gh15, bodybuilding is just one part of my life , it doesn't consume my life.
I will never stand on the Olympia or pro stage but have enjoyed bodybuilding on my terms.

Once again, unless you want to go pro, you don't have to use big drug cycles to look like a bodybuilder.

true,, you dont have to use mega doses inorder to win your local show,,

take groink for example ,, do you know how this fella would look on growth hormone? if he used it consistantly at high doses you would haev most likley top contender for pro card,, im not sure his physiqe would be nice....but he would be animalistic looking and very 3 dimentional with lots of added muscle fiber,,

so yes to win local show somewhere in your city you dont have to use 15 iu gh and all you can eat kitchen aas buffet ....they still use quite  abit though

gh15 approved

Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:35:33 PM
Howard does make very good points if the post was aimed at children. An adult should have the common sense to know about the possible consequences following gh15's advice. Children don't know any better Howard, but as an adult I find this insulting. So, Fuck you!
FYI, this was just a reminder that you don't have to go the hardcore drug route to enjoy bodybuilding.
Not trying to insult any adults here chief, take it easy.
All I am saying is anyone can lift, eat wel and make decent gains on little or no drugs.
You won't be a massive freak, but you can still look like a bodybuilder and be healthy .
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: gh15 on October 25, 2011, 02:36:57 PM
Your ideas might be just fine for the top few gifted , motivated guys who want to be top bodybuilders.
I don't dispute that .
The reality is over90% of the guys on here would be spend less moey and enjoy bodybuilding more if they didn't use a lot of drugs.
If they want to go for it , fine , but nobody has to and they can still be a decent bodybuilder.
Why take the risks and piss away all the money on massive drug cycles? For what?

i didnt say you cant get by with smaller doses,, you can YOU CAN it depends on age too,, it depends on many thing,, take 35 year old and 25 year old and it is day and nice diff ,, day and night,, the 35-40 year old will have to put in gh will have to KNOCK HIS BODY WITH GH ...inorder to get by and have good chance to beat that 25 year old ,,this is the all thing with bodybuild,,

why do you think we even have bodybuild now past age 35? do you rememebr back in 60s 70s we didnt even have bodybuild past 35,, they all retire went home to play with dolls,, why do you think we have bodybuilding past age 35? DRUGS LIKE HGH!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:38:58 PM
true,, you dont have to use mega doses inorder to win your local show,,

take groink for example ,, do you know how this fella would look on growth hormone? if he used it consistantly at high doses you would haev most likley top contender for pro card,, im not sure his physiqe would be nice....but he would be animalistic looking and very 3 dimentional with lots of added muscle fiber,,

so yes to win local show somewhere in your city you dont have to use 15 iu gh and all you can eat kitchen aas buffet ....they still use quite  abit though

gh15 approved



I know for a fact you are 100% wrong. Any decent guy with a good diet can come in ripped and ready for a regional show and do just fine without drugs. To me it is needed if you want to be a big freaky pro, but not for what 99% want from bodybuilding.
To me extreme drug use is pissing $$ down a rat hole.
Most screw up their health and/or go broke from it.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2011, 02:40:26 PM
i didnt say you cant get by with smaller doses,, you can YOU CAN it depends on age too,, it depends on many thing,, take 35 year old and 25 year old and it is day and nice diff ,, day and night,, the 35-40 year old will have to put in gh will have to KNOCK HIS BODY WITH GH ...inorder to get by and have good chance to beat that 25 year old ,,this is the all thing with bodybuild,,

why do you think we even have bodybuild now past age 35? do you rememebr back in 60s 70s we didnt even have bodybuild past 35,, they all retire went home to play with dolls,, why do you think we have bodybuilding past age 35? DRUGS LIKE HGH!

gh15 approved
You really don't need any drugs to be a bodybuilder. You sure don't need GH or insulin .
I think it is a waste of $$$ and too much risk for your health , sorry.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: gh15 on October 25, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
I know for a fact you are 100% wrong. Any decent guy with a good diet can come in ripped and ready for a regional show and do just fine without drugs. To me it is needed if you want to be a big freaky pro, but not for what 99% want from bodybuilding.
To me extreme drug use is pissing $$ down a rat hole.
Most screw up their health and/or go broke from it.

you screw your health from narcotics,, diuretic abuse ,, and mega dosing insulin with booze,, this is what you screw your health with ,, i dont see any serious bodybuidl drop dead ,, not the party ones but the serious ones i dont see them drop dead..you know why? bnecause they didnt fuck with the drugs i mentioned!

the ones who did and there are some who did payed heavy price,, you know chris could have been mr o if he didnt party and do narcotics,, he could have won it in my opinion ,, he knows it too

in regard to you saying that hgh and insulina and all that no need....it is wrong ,, you cant get to the top with out them ,, infact you cant get anywhere with out them ,, you can get middle placing in some local show maybe ,, again though you wil have NO LIFE

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: dyslexic on October 25, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
I think most people missed Howards' point.  ::)


The Gh15 cult is growing more and more each day. They are worshipping him. It is great to attempt to gain knowledge, but not just from one source of information.


The Gh15 domination of this board has almost become dogmatic.


Every single one of us think of one thing when we see his name: Trenbolone Acetate.


There is more to life than this, I promise. I don't want to be hypocritical here, but I have even asked Gh about Tren. He is very convincing that this is the only way to become a conditioned, good looking bodybuilder.


There are many more themes to life than just this Tren stuff. People are becoming brain-washed. If it is the truth in bodybuilding, then so be it. Mike Mentzer also espoused what he considered to be only ONE truth.


I personally believe there are many means to an end, and I don't feel like getting into a pissing match with any of the avid "pupils" ~ hopefully our *fallen angel* has no other agendas here.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: dogma5914 on October 25, 2011, 02:57:29 PM
or...I could become a pro listening to what he says and make a dvd where I talk about being a millionaire because of bodybuilding and thank gh15 right before I retire.

Whoa.....DREAM BIG  ;)
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on October 25, 2011, 02:59:06 PM
if you knew,,,who was behind the gh15 account,,then you would bow down to him,,,,do you understand why gh15 is worshiped here,,its becuase those same fellas who log on getbig,,log on other sites thats gh15 account is under and it BECOMES GOPSHAL AFTER SO LONG,,,so many fellas have done the route of gh15,,,took his advice and MUTATED TO MASS PROPORTIONS,,,then people come bcak to getbig to realize he is REAL AND SERIOUS,,,,only 3 people on this board know who is gh15 is,,,,YOUR NOT ONE OF THEM  :P
I think most people missed Howards' point.  ::)


The Gh15 cult is growing more and more each day. They are worshipping him. It is great to attempt to gain knowledge, but not just from one source of information.


The Gh15 domination of this board has almost become dogmatic.


Every single one of us think of one thing when we see his name: Trenbolone Acetate.


There is more to life than this, I promise. I don't want to be hypocritical here, but I have even asked Gh about Tren. He is very convincing that this is the only way to become a conditioned, good looking bodybuilder.


There are many more themes to life than just this Tren stuff. People are becoming brain-washed. If it is the truth in bodybuilding, then so be it. Mike Mentzer also espoused what he considered to be only ONE truth.


I personally believe there are many means to an end, and I don't feel like getting into a pissing match with any of the avid "pupils" ~ hopefully our *fallen angel* has no other agendas here.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: _bruce_ on October 25, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
You don't want to get it Howard.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: dogma5914 on October 25, 2011, 03:01:42 PM
Is this the same Howard from MD who always writes about why the pros use drugs???

 ::)
Title: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: deceiver on October 25, 2011, 03:15:04 PM


he claimed he ate anything and everything in huge amounts. yet he's SHREDDED here.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: dyslexic on October 25, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
if you knew,,,who was behind the gh15 account,,then you would bow down to him,,,,do you understand why gh15 is worshiped here,,its becuase those same fellas who log on getbig,,log on other sites thats gh15 account is under and it BECOMES GOPSHAL AFTER SO LONG,,,so many fellas have done the route of gh15,,,took his advice and MUTATED TO MASS PROPORTIONS,,,then people come bcak to getbig to realize he is REAL AND SERIOUS,,,,only 3 people on this board know who is gh15 is,,,,YOUR NOT ONE OF THEM  :P

If *I* knew? Me?

I hope you are not talking to me. I bow down to NO MAN!

You type and spell EXACTLY like he does from an account that I am not familiar with, so I am going to suspect you are either a *special* kind of gimmick, or you are being just plain facetious. (February 2008 @ approximately 1.8 posts per day, just "enough" to respond to someone when you get questioned)

"Only 3 people on this board know who he is..." How do you *KNOW* that?? How *would* you know this?

I'm not one of them and I DON'T CARE WHO HE IS! I could care less if he was Dorian Yates, Jay Cutler, some Pro from the past.. it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the message I am "attempting" to convey. It has nothing to do with mutation, or "seriousness" or Getbig worship services!


It's getting to be like a broken record around here. He is the "fallen angel" ~ why not concentrate on that in your "WORSHIP" instead?


You are all a bunch of over-saturated Satellite Cells begging with false hope for "mutation" into something you will never be.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: WillGrant on October 25, 2011, 03:35:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gj3ZO.jpg)
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Siimply on October 25, 2011, 03:37:09 PM
Oh my god WillGrant... !  :P
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: L.L on October 25, 2011, 03:38:34 PM
I'm 53 .
 . Drugs are not my area of expertise.


enough said..now shut the hell up ,forrest.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: WillGrant on October 25, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
Oh my god WillGrant... !  :P
(http://i.imgur.com/whiGq.jpg)
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Big N on October 25, 2011, 04:09:39 PM
I have  no idea who or what GH15 is. I do know he posts some interesting  or controversial stuff here at getbig.
I would simpy urge some good sense and caution if anyone considers following his drug cycle advice.
If you develop health problems, waste $$ or get busted, the annonymous internet guru won't be there to help.
I'm not sure just how effective his drug cycle tips are and don't care.

Why risk your health and finances on some extreme drug cycles?
So what if you won't be a huge freak? Most here seem to want a decent physique that  gets pussy and to enjoy life.
I'm 53 now and have dabbled in small amounts of steroids but never even considered insulin, diuretics or HGH.
Screwing around with your blood sugar or extreme manipulation of fluid levels for bodybuilding seems crazy to me.

If you want to be a future pro, you might consider Gh15's advice and ideals
To be a top pro, we all know what risks need to be taken .
If you dream of being on the Olympia stage, you might consider what GH15 says, I admit THAT . Drugs are not my area of expertise.
Just remember, you don't have to use extreme levels of drugs and take the risk, just  to be a regional bodybuilder.
It can be a healthy, functional lifestyle that enhances your life, instead of being your life.
Nobody requires you to  go the Gh15 drug cycle route just to build a decent physique and enjoy bodybuilding.

Now blast away and tell me how crazy and stupid I am hahaha.

I can respect this post, and I understand where you're coming. And to some degree I agree with this. However, in order to be make others or "pupils" of GH15 who look up to him and take his advice, to better understand the humble point you're trying to make here, I'd suggest being a bit more specific. For example, all that stuff you wrote, fine....but which age group are you targeting here? 18-30? 30-40? Of course we wouldn't want somebody who's below the age of 18yrs of age or just turned 21 to go extreme measures of what GH15 "suggests". GH15 doesnt mind portraying the truth, the real deal pro level bodybuilding with high doses of anabolics which might be the harsh reality of what "pro" (steroid) bodybuilding is like behind the scenes or might take to get on the olympia stage. Granted, we ALL know pretty much what Mr.Olympia and the rest of the shows trickle down and over are all about if not mostly about, and that's using or abusing enhanced performance chemicals!
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: WillGrant on October 25, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Howard is deluded end thread.
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: reppingfor20 on October 25, 2011, 04:24:36 PM
you already know, just read gh15's posts, tren ace, test at least 1 gram, 5 - 30 iu's gh, slin, anadrol, etc etc
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: hench on October 25, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
he's natural, it's worlds strongest man, gear usage isn't allowed.  :-X ;)
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: The True Adonis on October 25, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
You can eat whatever you want as a Lifetime Natural and remain shredded.  In fact, leaner than Pudz in that video.  Why is this concept so difficult to grasp?
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Viking11 on October 25, 2011, 06:00:08 PM
Mutation?  From drugs?  Not in human beings. Try radiation. That often causes mutations. Though you might end up a bit too green...
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: chaos on October 25, 2011, 06:17:28 PM
You can eat whatever you want as a Lifetime Natural and remain shredded.  In fact, leaner than Pudz in that video.  Why is this concept so difficult to grasp?

But can you carry the level of muscle mass Pudz carried as a lifetime natural eating whatever you want? Why is the concept of muscle mass and strength so hard for you to grasp?
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: no one on October 25, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gj3ZO.jpg)

jesus

christ
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: no one on October 25, 2011, 06:34:57 PM
But can you carry the level of muscle mass Pudz carried as a lifetime natural eating whatever you want? Why is the concept of muscle mass and strength so hard for you to grasp?

because hes a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: Montague on October 25, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
But can you carry the level of muscle mass Pudz carried as a lifetime natural eating whatever you want?


Absolutely.
That's why so many people do it that way.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 26, 2011, 02:01:26 PM
I can respect this post, and I understand where you're coming. And to some degree I agree with this. However, in order to be make others or "pupils" of GH15 who look up to him and take his advice, to better understand the humble point you're trying to make here, I'd suggest being a bit more specific. For example, all that stuff you wrote, fine....but which age group are you targeting here? 18-30? 30-40? Of course we wouldn't want somebody who's below the age of 18yrs of age or just turned 21 to go extreme measures of what GH15 "suggests". GH15 doesnt mind portraying the truth, the real deal pro level bodybuilding with high doses of anabolics which might be the harsh reality of what "pro" (steroid) bodybuilding is like behind the scenes or might take to get on the olympia stage. Granted, we ALL know pretty much what Mr.Olympia and the rest of the shows trickle down and over are all about if not mostly about, and that's using or abusing enhanced performance chemicals!

1. Most will quickly learn for a variety of reasons that a career as a top pro bodybuilder is NOT going to be an option for them.

2. Since 99.9% of us ( me included) won't be top pros, why waste all the money and risk your health on extreme drug cycles?

3. I'm not saying one has to be 100% natural , just be moderate and don't spend a lot of $$ or concern over the drug side of the sport.

Bodybuilding should enhance your life, not become your entire life. ;)
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on October 26, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
you screw your health from narcotics,, diuretic abuse ,, and mega dosing insulin with booze,, this is what you screw your health with ,, i dont see any serious bodybuidl drop dead ,, not the party ones but the serious ones i dont see them drop dead..you know why? bnecause they didnt fuck with the drugs i mentioned!

the ones who did and there are some who did payed heavy price,, you know chris could have been mr o if he didnt party and do narcotics,, he could have won it in my opinion ,, he knows it too

in regard to you saying that hgh and insulina and all that no need....it is wrong ,, you cant get to the top with out them ,, infact you cant get anywhere with out them ,, you can get middle placing in some local show maybe ,, again though you wil have NO LIFE

gh15 approved

1. I agree , recreational drug abuse is much worse then  steroid abuse. Moderation is the key and that is my point.
2. The amount of drugs you advise may be what is needed to be a pro, but seems way too much for the avg bodybuilder.
3. Far better to avoid all the cost $$$ of big cycles and just use small amounts to "enhance" if the avg guy decides to juice.
4. Low amounts or no juice bodybulding offers the best bang for your buck for the avg guy.

Bodybuilding should enhance your life, NOT become your entire life.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: gh15 on October 26, 2011, 08:47:01 PM
1. I agree , recreational drug abuse is much worse then  steroid abuse. Moderation is the key and that is my point.
2. The amount of drugs you advise may be what is needed to be a pro, but seems way too much for the avg bodybuilder.
3. Far better to avoid all the cost $$$ of big cycles and just use small amounts to "enhance" if the avg guy decides to juice.
4. Low amounts or no juice bodybulding offers the best bang for your buck for the avg guy.

Bodybuilding should enhance your life, NOT become your entire life.

there is no comparison between the 2 ,, steroid hormone abuse wont kill you  unless you really shoot it straight to the heart in mega dosing you know like sticking the damn needle into the rib cage penetrate it and into the heart...wont happen

what will kill you is ....narcotic abuse and addiction ,, diuretic abuse and adiction ,,mix of them both ,, and ofcourse alchol abuse and addiction

all those locals you hear about that sudently go to sleep and dont wake up in morning ,, they die from pain killer abuse ,,  narcotic abuse,, alcohol abuse,, diuretic abuse,, thats what they die from not from a damn steroid intake

notice what the most coomon thign that kil them...overdose on vicodins,, over dose on pain killers,, cacaine and extazys crystal meth ,, alcoholizm and yes some fellas drink alot whiel doing hormones,, they really down drinks,, and ofcourse diuretic abuse which is doubel punch on alcholol which is also diuretic ...this is the things that kill you ,, the poor steroids that only enhance your life get blamed for it all ,,why? because people are sheep,,the goverment doesnt want you to be invinsible i keep telling you that,, no goverment want its citizens to be invinsible,, they want you to be sick like eveyr other fella,, they want you to be one of the people ....to help economy to help and be in pay medical bills everything is inorder to run economy and run population in homeostasis.....sooooo what they say ? they say steroids are bad ...they made sure doctors with white clothes say it,, and voila ...you got fellas relate steroids with satan and with death ,, NOT TRUE!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Stavios on October 26, 2011, 08:55:32 PM
LOL at Howard's way of thinking

"You can go far in bodybuilding without using a lot of drugs"
"Take myself for example, I never won anything worth mentionning but I never took a lot of drugs"

 ;D
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 26, 2011, 08:59:58 PM
LOL at Howard's way of thinking

"You can go far in bodybuilding without using a lot of drugs"
"Take myself for example, I never won anything worth mentionning but I never took a lot of drugs"

 ;D


Howard is a fucking retard.


What's even worse if that he started hitting on me in PMs, probably thinks he can "bond" and then we'll be "friends".

Biggest fucking idiot on this board, he makes Goodrum look like a black Einstein.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Benoitlapierre on October 26, 2011, 09:02:03 PM
die young to be a freak make lots of sense to me

 i wont last til 53 yo anw so fuck it , i cant handle gh15 tren protocol , but i will max out 4 years to b master pro

Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: dyslexic on October 26, 2011, 11:51:08 PM
there is no comparison between the 2 ,, steroid hormone abuse wont kill you  unless you really shoot it straight to the heart in mega dosing you know like sticking the damn needle into the rib cage penetrate it and into the heart...wont happen

what will kill you is ....narcotic abuse and addiction ,, diuretic abuse and adiction ,,mix of them both ,, and ofcourse alchol abuse and addiction

all those locals you hear about that sudently go to sleep and dont wake up in morning ,, they die from pain killer abuse ,,  narcotic abuse,, alcohol abuse,, diuretic abuse,, thats what they die from not from a damn steroid intake

notice what the most coomon thign that kil them...overdose on vicodins,, over dose on pain killers,, cacaine and extazys crystal meth ,, alcoholizm and yes some fellas drink alot whiel doing hormones,, they really down drinks,, and ofcourse diuretic abuse which is doubel punch on alcholol which is also diuretic ...this is the things that kill you ,, the poor steroids that only enhance your life get blamed for it all ,,why? because people are sheep,,the goverment doesnt want you to be invinsible i keep telling you that,, no goverment want its citizens to be invinsible,, they want you to be sick like eveyr other fella,, they want you to be one of the people ....to help economy to help and be in pay medical bills everything is inorder to run economy and run population in homeostasis.....sooooo what they say ? they say steroids are bad ...they made sure doctors with white clothes say it,, and voila ...you got fellas relate steroids with satan and with death ,, NOT TRUE!

gh15 approved


I still wonder why Don Youngblood died in his sleep. Nothing was ever said. He and I worked in the same business for many years. I believe he had health problems before he ever started training. He was a lot older than most when he picked up his first weight.

Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on October 26, 2011, 11:54:08 PM
why do you think they go to sleep and die? think ,,

steroid is nto the answer,, neither hgh,,

what they die from in sleep is usualy over dosing of pain killers,, taking just little too much ,, insulina just little too much with it,, narcotics will do it to yuo friend,, add booze to it and it is short way to heaven

notice its very coomon ,, they first go to hospital feelign little bad,, they then release,, then they go sleep ...tak epain killer or something ,, within few hours they chose on their tongue or die in sleep somehow,, to never wake up again ,, all in their 30s 40s ....

the bodybuild life style of some is much much more than hormones MUCH MUCH MORE

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: alejandro_torres on October 26, 2011, 11:55:49 PM
Your ideas might be just fine for the top few gifted , motivated guys who want to be top bodybuilders.
I don't dispute that .
The reality is over90% of the guys on here would be spend less moey and enjoy bodybuilding more if they didn't use a lot of drugs.
If they want to go for it , fine , but nobody has to and they can still be a decent bodybuilder.
Why take the risks and piss away all the money on massive drug cycles? For what?

Lie lie lie

we  all enjoy bb, we are here cause we like it and cause its our life... and EVERYONE HERE WANTS TO BE BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN THE GUY NEXT DOOR, AND GH15 HAS PROVIDED FOR YEARS THE PATH TO DO THAT...  PEOPLE TAKE RISKS CAUSE THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY THE PRICE BRO...
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 27, 2011, 01:31:44 AM
I think most people missed Howards' point.  ::)


The Gh15 cult is growing more and more each day. They are worshipping him. It is great to attempt to gain knowledge, but not just from one source of information.


The Gh15 domination of this board has almost become dogmatic.


Every single one of us think of one thing when we see his name: Trenbolone Acetate.


There is more to life than this, I promise. I don't want to be hypocritical here, but I have even asked Gh about Tren. He is very convincing that this is the only way to become a conditioned, good looking bodybuilder.


There are many more themes to life than just this Tren stuff. People are becoming brain-washed. If it is the truth in bodybuilding, then so be it. Mike Mentzer also espoused what he considered to be only ONE truth.


I personally believe there are many means to an end, and I don't feel like getting into a pissing match with any of the avid "pupils" ~ hopefully our *fallen angel* has no other agendas here.

  Yes, lots of beta males in this board who worship this troll and would deep throat his dick until his balls hit their chins. Pathetic behavio for adults.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 01:55:35 AM
I think the amount of juice "needed",depends on your level of development,number of years training,age,and goals...........etc. etc.

A beginner who has trained only 6 months surely doesn`t need to be on any gear,he should build a foundation first.

A first timer will/can do great on a test only cycle.

An NPC regional competitor doesn`t need growth hormone or insulin although I do know that most guys use it anyway.

What I`m trying to get at is,the more complicated stacks with more compounds should only be used for the people who have put in the time training in the gym or competing.

Too many young fucksticks today train for a year,jump on tons of shit,place 5th. in their local contest and then are never seen again.


Use the amount needed for the above stated reasons............in other words,don`t use Ronnies cycle if you place 5th. in your local contest.

Make your gear use progressive just like your training should be.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: WillGrant on October 27, 2011, 01:57:13 AM
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Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 01:58:33 AM
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KILL IT WITH FIRE !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: WillGrant on October 27, 2011, 02:01:12 AM
KILL IT WITH FIRE !!!!!!!!!!
;D
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 02:04:02 AM
I think the amount of juice "needed",depends on your level of development,number of years training,age,and goals...........etc. etc.

A beginner who has trained only 6 months surely doesn`t need to be on any gear,he should build a foundation first.

A first timer will/can do great on a test only cycle.

An NPC regional competitor doesn`t need growth hormone or insulin although I do know that most guys use it anyway.

What I`m trying to get at is,the more complicated stacks with more compounds should only be used for the people who have put in the time training in the gym or competing.

Too many young fucksticks today train for a year,jump on tons of shit,place 5th. in their local contest and then are never seen again.


Use the amount needed for the above stated reasons............in other words,don`t use Ronnies cycle if you place 5th. in your local contest.

Make your gear use progressive just like your training should be.

Good post.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 02:05:34 AM
Good post.
Thank you brother!  :)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 02:08:53 AM
Thank you brother!  :)

No problem.

I think it should be normal to use your head a bit.

Although i also like to have fun with the gh15 following and "all drugs" posts, i think it should be clear that his advice is usually for guys with some years under the belt who have achieved a bit and want to get to another level in BB.

A newbie shouldn't so steroids, and obviously doing 700mg of Tren Ace, 2g of Test, 30 i.u. HGH, 200mg Anadrol and 20 i.u. insulin on your first cycle is not a good idea as well.

Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 02:17:59 AM
No problem.

I think it should be normal to use your head a bit.

Although i also like to have fun with the gh15 following and "all drugs" posts, i think it should be clear that his advice is usually for guys with some years under the belt who have achieved a bit and want to get to another level in BB.

A newbie shouldn't so steroids, and obviously doing 700mg of Tren Ace, 2g of Test, 30 i.u. HGH, 200mg Anadrol and 20 i.u. insulin on your first cycle is not a good idea as well.


Exactly !!

Some idiots will try GH15`s advice even though they shouldn`t.

I love his posts for the most part, and he gives good advice,but it`s not for everyone.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
Exactly !!

Some idiots will try GH15`s advice even though they shouldn`t.

I love his posts for the most part, and he gives good advice,but it`s not for everyone.

Same as if you get racing advice from Michael Schumacher, it's advice for the race track, if some idiot does it in his Pinto on a public road and dies, his fault.

At least with the roids you can't get others killed.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 02:23:55 AM
Same as if you get racing advice from Michael Schumacher, it's advice for the race track, if some idiot does it in his Pinto on a public road and dies, his fault.

At least with the roids you can't get others killed.
Yup.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on October 27, 2011, 02:24:32 AM
I think the amount of juice "needed",depends on your level of development,number of years training,age,and goals...........etc. etc.

A beginner who has trained only 6 months surely doesn`t need to be on any gear,he should build a foundation first.

A first timer will/can do great on a test only cycle.

An NPC regional competitor doesn`t need growth hormone or insulin although I do know that most guys use it anyway.

What I`m trying to get at is,the more complicated stacks with more compounds should only be used for the people who have put in the time training in the gym or competing.

Too many young fucksticks today train for a year,jump on tons of shit,place 5th. in their local contest and then are never seen again.


Use the amount needed for the above stated reasons............in other words,don`t use Ronnies cycle if you place 5th. in your local contest.

Make your gear use progressive just like your training should be.

i am sorry ,, but if you are over 32 year old ,, and you want to be anything remotely close to competetive....and you are not on hgh you can FORGET ABOUT IT,, have you ever didi most muscular jason cutler style with gh in blood and with out?

NOTICE FRIENDS,, WHEN YOU DO IT WITH OUT GH IN BLOOD AND OFCOURSE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS OVER IM NOT GOING TO DISCUSS AGAIN WHAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS ITS IN BIBLE,, BUT IF YOU DO IT WITH OUT GH...YOU WILL HAVE A VERY 2 DIMENTIONAL PHYSIQE IF KEEPING ANY SIZE TO WRITE HOME ABOUT,, EVEN IF SHREDDED AND SMALL YOU WILL HAVE 2 DIMENTIONAL PHYSIQE WERE....YOUR DELTS WILL BE VERY MUCH 2 DIMENTIONAL...MAY BE BIG BUT 2 DIMENTIONAL

when do this pose with hgh in blood!! ,, notice what happen ...practice this post of the levrone most mauscular and jason most muscular...be on hgh see what happen ...suddenly you see the REAR DELT WHILE STANDING FRONT MOST MUSCULAR...YOU SEE THE REAR DELT CLIMBING FROM BEHIND LIKE A LITTLE ALIEN OUT OF YOUR BODY ....SUDDENLY YOU SEE THE DELTS CUPPED TO THE 10 DEGREE AND WHEN YOU LIFT YOUR ARM UP AFTER DOING SOME HAMMER YOU DONT SEE YOUR UGLY STICKY BONE THAT IS IS POINTY IN THIS POSITION WHAT YOU SEE IS VERY ROUND MUSCLE WRAPPING A BONE AND DELT THAT BECOME GIGANTIC!,, SAME FOR OTHER MUSCLE GROUPS FRIENDS,, you see everything 3 dimentional,, while the waist that groink cant get rid offff....he has tight waist now but it still look blocky ...that waist....suddenly get ripped drier suckin in phenomenon while leaving the obliqes to hang out and give the thickness illusion ,,


it is a whollllle diff ball game human growth hormone,, i can smell a fella from 1 km away and tell you what kind of gh he is on and how much of this gh he was using and how much he still left over in the kit he is using!,,

the idea of bodybuild beyond age 30-32 with out gh is redicoulous...unless you ok with competing 165lb 6% 5'10 ..then you can do ok with no gh..problem is you wont get to look 165lb 6% the way you were at 28....when you are 34...you just wont!

32 and on everythign go down ,,what WHAT give you the extra 10 year of bodybuild extra 10-20 years past age 30 in high competetive bodybuild...is! the hgh

and! hgh is improving anyone not only profesionals,, it is a very important factor in being a good fitness model ,, huge diff between the bulk ripped look trenbolona creates and the polished tight blown in the right places small head large body that hgh + trenbolona ace gives

bible index

gh15 approved

Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on October 27, 2011, 02:29:43 AM
one corection ,, make the 165 185... 165 is natural weight,, 185 is what i meant ,, i was thiknign natural whiekl this fellas with no gh still use aas they will be able to compete higher lean muscle but their 185lb will look very diff than the 190lb of the fella who is on gh too...very very diff look

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 02:29:51 AM
Thanks gh15,and I agree,but all I`m trying to point out is that some idiot will try an exorbitant cycle when they don`t really need to, and these are the idiots that have no clue, and don`t want to put in the time training first to build a foundation.


Generation nothingness = 2 years training time and lots of every drug imaginable..........kind a` sad.


I don`t want to sound like Howard here,trust me!!  ;D
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on October 27, 2011, 02:31:38 AM
Thanks gh15,and I agree,but all I`m trying to point out is that some idiot will try an exorbitant cycle when they don`t really need to, and these are the idiots that have no clue, and don`t want to put in the time training first to build a foundation.


Generation nothingness = 2 years training time and lots of every drug imaginable..........kind a` sad.


I don`t want to sound like Howard here,trust me!!  ;D

correct ,, you shoudl nto follow every thing i say if you been in gymnasium 8 months ,, it is for more advanced bodybuild few years in gymnasium that live and breath bodybuilld 24 7 and have experience with hormones!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 02:32:48 AM
correct ,, you shoudl nto follow every thing i say if you been in gymnasium 8 months ,, it is for more advanced bodybuild few years in gymnasium that live and breath bodybuilld 24 7 and have experience with hormones!

gh15 approved
^THIS^  :)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 02:34:10 AM
Thanks gh15,and I agree,but all I`m trying to point out is that some idiot will try an exorbitant cycle when they don`t really need to, and these are the idiots that have no clue, and don`t want to put in the time training first to build a foundation.


Generation nothingness = 2 years training time and lots of every drug imaginable..........kind a` sad.


I don`t want to sound like Howard here,trust me!!  ;D

But these idiots were there long before gh15, they have been there in the 60s, i am sure.

Take every drug available but stop training after 2 years and go back to your normal life. They are drug addicts, like tbombz. They just try stuff out, stay with it for a while until they find a new high.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 02:35:49 AM
correct ,, you shoudl nto follow every thing i say if you been in gymnasium 8 months ,, it is for more advanced bodybuild few years in gymnasium that live and breath bodybuilld 24 7 and have experience with hormones!

gh15 approved

Some people seem to fail to grasp this, although for me it is pretty clear from your posts.


You compare to Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and so on, it's ridiculous if some noob 3 weeks in the gym thinks he can look like an IFBB pro in 6 months if he follows a drug program.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on October 27, 2011, 02:38:43 AM
Some people seem to fail to grasp this, although for me it is pretty clear from your posts.


You compare to Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and so on, it's ridiculous if some noob 3 weeks in the gym thinks he can look like an IFBB pro in 6 months if he follows a drug program.

corect

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: The Grim Lifter on October 27, 2011, 02:41:32 AM
ummm most fellas here...dont give a fuck about pussy ,, they can get it with muscle and with out ,, most fellas here want to be bodybuild , live and breath it and want to be recognized as bodybuilders!,, pussy is easy to get they can get it with money and with personality and with good face and with anything ,, they can meet a girl online like all the other fellas now days,, most fellas here want to GET FROM POINT A TO B and LOOK ACTUALY LOOK like a bodybuilder

gh15 approved

this
Title: Re: to gh15 - what is pudz on here?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on October 27, 2011, 02:45:35 AM


he claimed he ate anything and everything in huge amounts. yet he's SHREDDED here.
the amounts of mechanical work he does and the hormone levels make this perfectly possible
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on October 27, 2011, 02:51:57 AM
But these idiots were there long before gh15, they have been there in the 60s, i am sure.

Take every drug available but stop training after 2 years and go back to your normal life. They are drug addicts, like tbombz. They just try stuff out, stay with it for a while until they find a new high.
Oh yeah,they`ve always been around...........seen it so many times it`s not funny.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 03:04:34 AM
Oh yeah,they`ve always been around...........seen it so many times it`s not funny.


 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 04:57:06 PM

Howard is a fucking retard.


What's even worse if that he started hitting on me in PMs, probably thinks he can "bond" and then we'll be "friends".

Biggest fucking idiot on this board, he makes Goodrum look like a black Einstein.
Eat me douchebag. How's that for bonding  8)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 27, 2011, 04:59:38 PM
Eat me douchebag. How's that for bonding  8)

Seems like that is what you want the most at the moment.


Fuck off with your gay hit ups and go back to masturbating to bodybuilder pics on the net, or try someone where you'd be more lucky, Bay, "1" or MattC.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:00:49 PM
I think the amount of juice "needed",depends on your level of development,number of years training,age,and goals...........etc. etc.

A beginner who has trained only 6 months surely doesn`t need to be on any gear,he should build a foundation first.

A first timer will/can do great on a test only cycle.

An NPC regional competitor doesn`t need growth hormone or insulin although I do know that most guys use it anyway.

What I`m trying to get at is,the more complicated stacks with more compounds should only be used for the people who have put in the time training in the gym or competing.

Too many young fucksticks today train for a year,jump on tons of shit,place 5th. in their local contest and then are never seen again.


Use the amount needed for the above stated reasons............in other words,don`t use Ronnies cycle if you place 5th. in your local contest.

Make your gear use progressive just like your training should be.
GREAT post.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:05:23 PM
why do you think they go to sleep and die? think ,,

steroid is nto the answer,, neither hgh,,

what they die from in sleep is usualy over dosing of pain killers,, taking just little too much ,, insulina just little too much with it,, narcotics will do it to yuo friend,, add booze to it and it is short way to heaven

notice its very coomon ,, they first go to hospital feelign little bad,, they then release,, then they go sleep ...tak epain killer or something ,, within few hours they chose on their tongue or die in sleep somehow,, to never wake up again ,, all in their 30s 40s ....

the bodybuild life style of some is much much more than hormones MUCH MUCH MORE

gh15 approved
1.I agree that recreational narcotics are 100x worse then any steroid. I posted that already.
2. I have no doubt that some of your drug ideas would help any hardcore guy max out their mass.
I admit I am no drug guru as it isn't my area.

3. I just think that way too much time , $$ and interest is wasted on drug use for over 90% of guys who bodybuild.
I love bodybuolding but don't think it should consume a lot of your $$ or overall life.
That is all I am saying GH15.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
Seems like that is what you want the most at the moment.


Fuck off with your gay hit ups and go back to masturbating to bodybuilder pics on the net, or try someone where you'd be more lucky, Bay, "1" or MattC.
I admit, you come up with a few funny get big classic zingers sometime.
Sadly, this ad naseum attack was neither funny or up to your usual standard. Try again numbnut .

FYI, I have no desire to be your buddy or pal  and don't take you serious. ;)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:13:02 PM
Same as if you get racing advice from Michael Schumacher, it's advice for the race track, if some idiot does it in his Pinto on a public road and dies, his fault.

At least with the roids you can't get others killed.
Good point and analogy.
That is my point as well.

I just think most guys who bodybuild would save a lot of money if they didn't get so into the drug end of it.
I have seen plenty of guys juice like crazy and still look like a crap.
I know you think I am a fukhead, but I beat guys who juiced a ton while I used little or none .
Since I am no gifted genetic freak, I think that shows you really don't need all the drugs to be a decent regional bodybuilder.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 27, 2011, 05:14:54 PM
I have  no idea who or what GH15 is. I do know he posts some interesting  or controversial stuff here at getbig.
I would simpy urge some good sense and caution if anyone considers following his drug cycle advice.
If you develop health problems, waste $$ or get busted, the annonymous internet guru won't be there to help.
I'm not sure just how effective his drug cycle tips are and don't care.

Why risk your health and finances on some extreme drug cycles?
So what if you won't be a huge freak? Most here seem to want a decent physique that  gets pussy and to enjoy life.
I'm 53 now and have dabbled in small amounts of steroids but never even considered insulin, diuretics or HGH.
Screwing around with your blood sugar or extreme manipulation of fluid levels for bodybuilding seems crazy to me.

If you want to be a future pro, you might consider Gh15's advice and ideals
To be a top pro, we all know what risks need to be taken .
If you dream of being on the Olympia stage, you might consider what GH15 says, I admit THAT . Drugs are not my area of expertise.
Just remember, you don't have to use extreme levels of drugs and take the risk, just  to be a regional bodybuilder.
It can be a healthy, functional lifestyle that enhances your life, instead of being your life.
Nobody requires you to  go the Gh15 drug cycle route just to build a decent physique and enjoy bodybuilding.

Now blast away and tell me how crazy and stupid I am hahaha.

Prove that you are/were an actual bodybuilder? Aren't you just a weight lifter?
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
Prove that you are/were an actual bodybuilder? Aren't you just a weight lifter?
Ya I have very little involvement in actual bodybuilding. You obviously know me REALLY well and have  outed me for the fraud I am.
In fact most of my lifting is with swinging kettle  bells and I promote their use in various ads you may have seen . ;)

You getbiggers are damn smart. NOBODY can fool this bunch. I'm busted, damn! :'(
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:33:29 PM
one corection ,, make the 165 185... 165 is natural weight,, 185 is what i meant ,, i was thiknign natural whiekl this fellas with no gh still use aas they will be able to compete higher lean muscle but their 185lb will look very diff than the 190lb of the fella who is on gh too...very very diff look

gh15 approved
What was I even thnking?! You are right GH15 it is impossible to gain much muscle without a lot of drugs.
I'm a retard , can we kiss and make up now.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 27, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
Ya I have very little involvement in actual bodybuilding. You obviously know me REALLY well and have  outed me for the fraud I am.
In fact most of my lifting is with swinging kettle  bells and I promote their use in various ads you may have seen . ;)

You getbiggers are damn smart. NOBODY can fool this bunch. I'm busted, damn! :'(

Didn't you just do one show in the early 90's? Showed up at like 8% bodyfat or something. Hell TA walks around at 7% :-\
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:50:31 PM
Didn't you just do one show in the early 90's? Showed up at like 8% bodyfat or something. Hell TA walks around at 7% :-\
Nailed me again, damn. :-\ I compted once in my life and ONLY once*, back in the 90's on a dare bet, from my wt lifting buds.
I tried to diet down and maybe got under 10% if I was lucky? ( *8% is being nice, thanks haha).
It was the NPC Outer West Bayou Championships and I got 3rd out of 3 guys. It was held in Jacksons Bayou, La on Feb 30th 1993.
Some freak named Bobby Bouchere won the show and was awesome. he was one of those rare freaks that refused to cut back on water before a show. He looked great and had this really hot girlfriend named Vicky. I heard he played Div 1 football as a linebacker at some school in La before he was a bodybuilder.

I guess i'm just an older weight lifter and never did learn much about actual bodybuilding. Hey I did shake Jay Cutller's hand once!
I now feel dumb trying to talk about bodybuilding with a forum of guys that have a lot more knowledge and experience in bodybuilding then me.
If you ask me the NPC judges really suck. What dumbass judges they are huh?!
I am amazed you knew so many true facts about me. How did you learn this stuff about me? I'm impressed!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
Thanks gh15,and I agree,but all I`m trying to point out is that some idiot will try an exorbitant cycle when they don`t really need to, and these are the idiots that have no clue, and don`t want to put in the time training first to build a foundation.


Generation nothingness = 2 years training time and lots of every drug imaginable..........kind a` sad.


I don`t want to sound like Howard here,trust me!!  ;D
Gh15 knows more about bodybuilding then I ever will.
I apologize to him and the getbig forum for telling my lies.
I have very little formal education and never was into real bodybuilding except for one small show many years ago.


now that you know , don't make too much fun of me, thanks and sorry aagain.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 06:00:12 PM
Seems like that is what you want the most at the moment.


Fuck off with your gay hit ups and go back to masturbating to bodybuilder pics on the net, or try someone where you'd be more lucky, Bay, "1" or MattC.

...damn dude I thought we could hook up at the 3rd stall on the first floor men's room at the Arnold expo. I'm bummed!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 27, 2011, 06:21:13 PM
Nailed me again, damn. :-\ I compted once in my life and ONLY once*, back in the 90's on a dare bet, from my wt lifting buds.
I tried to diet down and maybe got under 10% if I was lucky? ( *8% is being nice, thanks haha).
It was the NPC Outer West Bayou Championships and I got 3rd out of 3 guys. It was held in Jacksons Bayou, La on Feb 30th 1993.
Some freak named Bobby Bouchere won the show and was awesome. he was one of those rare freaks that refused to cut back on water before a show. He looked great and had this really hot girlfriend named Vicky. I heard he played Div 1 football as a linebacker at some school in La before he was a bodybuilder.

I guess i'm just an older weight lifter and never did learn much about actual bodybuilding. Hey I did shake Jay Cutller's hand once!
I now feel dumb trying to talk about bodybuilding with a forum of guys that have a lot more knowledge and experience in bodybuilding then me.
If you ask me the NPC judges really suck. What dumbass judges they are huh?!
I am amazed you knew so many true facts about me. How did you learn this stuff about me? I'm impressed!


How many shows have you competed in? And how many shows have you judged? Honest question
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 27, 2011, 06:24:34 PM
Nailed me again, damn. :-\ I compted once in my life and ONLY once*, back in the 90's on a dare bet, from my wt lifting buds.
I tried to diet down and maybe got under 10% if I was lucky? ( *8% is being nice, thanks haha).
It was the NPC Outer West Bayou Championships and I got 3rd out of 3 guys. It was held in Jacksons Bayou, La on Feb 30th 1993.
Some freak named Bobby Bouchere won the show and was awesome. he was one of those rare freaks that refused to cut back on water before a show. He looked great and had this really hot girlfriend named Vicky. I heard he played Div 1 football as a linebacker at some school in La before he was a bodybuilder.

I guess i'm just an older weight lifter and never did learn much about actual bodybuilding. Hey I did shake Jay Cutller's hand once!
I now feel dumb trying to talk about bodybuilding with a forum of guys that have a lot more knowledge and experience in bodybuilding then me.
If you ask me the NPC judges really suck. What dumbass judges they are huh?!
I am amazed you knew so many true facts about me. How did you learn this stuff about me? I'm impressed!

Didn't the FONZ judge that show? Because you 'jumped the shark" in the 90's :D
Title: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 06:30:18 PM
I have been "found out" and the real truth on me is revealed in a thread I foolishly posted trying to slander GH15.

1. I posed as a physics teacher with graduate degrees. The truth is I am a high school drop out and have worked in a drill bit factory for the past 33 years. It was recently revelaed by a getbig fact checker. I am ashamed, sorry.

2. I never judged any show and was busted trolling the men's room at  the Arnold Classic

3. I only competed once in my life, years ago at 10% body fat and got dead last. It was the NPC west outer bayou championships won by Bobby Bouchere, a real freak with this hot girlfriend named Vicky. I am surprised he never went pro?

4. I claimed to work out in a gym, but the truth is I  really work out in my basement on an old bow flex and swing kettle bells.

5. I never had a woman as my wife and only know my dog in a biblical way.

6. I was never natural and my receptor cells have rejected even the most extreme dose of drugs. My ass was a pin cushion.
I'm just old , chunky and limp dicked now, sad but true.

7. I can't even get respect at getbig.com or down at my hang out , Bob's Country Bunker, that recently barred me because I bored the bar patrons with my lame tales.
8. I shook Jay's hand once and can brag about that . I also said hello to Bob Chick too....I really did and he said hi back, I think????
Sucks to be Howard
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: haider on October 27, 2011, 06:31:29 PM
didnt read past 'I' lol
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Natural Man on October 27, 2011, 06:31:47 PM
So this is your monthly call for some attention when obviously nobody cares about your sorry uninteresting 50 y/o ass in real life?

Also dont you have a pic of yourself sitting alone in a stupid cave which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to go with that "new" retarded thread by any chance?
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 06:34:41 PM
so this is your monthly call for some attention when obviously nobody cares about your sorry uninteresting 50 y/o ass in real life?

Dont you have a pic of yourself sitting alone in a stupid cave which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to go with that retarded thread by any chance?

LOL, well I got you to read it or at least waste your time opening the thread and replying hahahahaha.

Got ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
didnt read past 'I' lol
I am surprised you can read that well. ???
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: tendonitis on October 27, 2011, 06:41:41 PM
Howard, you really suck at doing funny.
Stick to boring, you're great at that.

you're welcome
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Natural Man on October 27, 2011, 06:44:31 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=400381.0;attach=438659;image)


Sucks to be Howard
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: The Ugly on October 27, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
Howard : Comedy :: Cheese Grater : Masturbation
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Natural Man on October 27, 2011, 06:45:53 PM
Howard, you really suck at doing funny.
Stick to boring, you're great at that.

you're welcome


get a life.

fixed.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: aesthetics on October 27, 2011, 06:50:01 PM
howard the duck
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: TrueGrit on October 27, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Howard,

Einstein or Newton?
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: aesthetics on October 27, 2011, 06:56:36 PM
I think the amount of juice "needed",depends on your level of development,number of years training,age,and goals...........etc. etc.

A beginner who has trained only 6 months surely doesn`t need to be on any gear,he should build a foundation first.

A first timer will/can do great on a test only cycle.

An NPC regional competitor doesn`t need growth hormone or insulin although I do know that most guys use it anyway.

What I`m trying to get at is,the more complicated stacks with more compounds should only be used for the people who have put in the time training in the gym or competing.

Too many young fucksticks today train for a year,jump on tons of shit,place 5th. in their local contest and then are never seen again.


Use the amount needed for the above stated reasons............in other words,don`t use Ronnies cycle if you place 5th. in your local contest.

Make your gear use progressive just like your training should be.

actually everyone, regardless of age or gender, should be running 10 grams of gear a week and doing curls at every moment of the day. they should be curling in their dreams too.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: booty on October 27, 2011, 07:08:07 PM
Howard stop raping your dog and get out of the cave more often.   :P
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: WillGrant on October 27, 2011, 07:14:14 PM
Howard cock lover extraordinaire

ungaying thread

(http://anonib.com/ygwbt/src/131973025161.jpg)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: WillGrant on October 27, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3kTyW.jpg)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 28, 2011, 04:19:14 AM
I think most peole could figure out that you should´nt do pro doses when starting up with gear. When I started tren, eq and gh and prop I did tren 50 mg eod, eq 300 mg, gh 2 iu and prop 50 mg eod... actually I tried out even smaller to check if the gear was legit. After 3 months or so on I add some more, Cycle some orals in and out. I am not a newbie either I´ve been bodybuilding and competing since 1995. I am a newbie on tren and gh though. Now i´m at 100 mg tren eod, 400 mg eq, 100 mg prop eod, 3 iu gh. Good shit. I´m gonna stay on this for 1-2 years straight and see if I can get better than before. I used to compete with sustanon 1g week, dbol 50 mg ed and winstrol 50 mg ed. LOL
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 28, 2011, 04:27:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3kTyW.jpg)

Nice rack... i´m lucky to have one of those at home prepping meals and always ready to fuck. I´ve had her for 6 years now. Good girl. Very well taught  ;)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Jaime on October 28, 2011, 04:54:22 AM
First off Howard is one of the dumbest motherfuckers ever to walk the face of this earth.

Secondly it depends on your goals. It also depends on your genetics, as to the quantitys that you will be using. Bodybuilding is all drugs. Bodysculpting has far more variables.

Steroids are very safe compared to drink and smoking, thats fact.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: CalvinH on October 28, 2011, 06:50:24 AM
Howard please shut the fuck up.



......collectively,all of GB.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:08:45 PM
Howard please fuck  CALVIN up the poop chute.



......collectively,all of your fans.
Fixed to reveal his true nature  :-*
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:10:42 PM

How many shows have you competed in? And how many shows have you judged? Honest question
Ask Gh15 he as he already knows everything about everthing in bodybuilding.
You already told everyone I only compted once and was kinda fat and got last.
I JUDGED your sister your mom when she smoked my pole and gave her a top score.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
Didn't the FONZ judge that show? Because you 'jumped the shark" in the 90's :D
I jumped on your mother not the shark.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:13:23 PM
First off Howard is one of the dumbest motherfuckers ever to walk the face of this earth.

Secondly it depends on your goals. It also depends on your genetics, as to the quantitys that you will be using. Bodybuilding is all drugs. Bodysculpting has far more variables.

Steroids are very safe compared to drink and smoking, thats fact.
I admit I am a guy and yor mom agrees. It was dumb as your mom is butt ugly and smelles bad.
Thus, I admit to being a dumb guy.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:14:44 PM
Howard,

Einstein or Newton?
2 different types of physics.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:15:37 PM
Howard cock lover extraordinaire

ungaying thread

(http://anonib.com/ygwbt/src/131973025161.jpg)
nice pic Will
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: no one on October 28, 2011, 01:16:14 PM
Howard, you really suck at doing funny.
Stick to boring, you're great at that.

you're welcome

LOL!
 :D
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:16:37 PM
howard the dumbfuck
fixed for truth
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: no one on October 28, 2011, 01:16:58 PM
Howard please shut the fuck up.



......collectively,all of GB.

^ THIS
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:18:17 PM
Howard, you really suck at doing funny.
Stick to boring, you're great at that.

you're welcome

Well at least I'm better at butt sex with your sister and her fart locker is no joke.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: berblexer on October 28, 2011, 01:18:57 PM
Poor Howard seems like everybody hates him
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:19:56 PM
^ THIS
or that?
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Bix on October 28, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
I love Howard.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 28, 2011, 01:35:27 PM
.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: jwb on October 28, 2011, 01:35:27 PM
Been kicked out by the wife again yet Howard?
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 28, 2011, 01:37:46 PM
(http://a3.img.mobypicture.com/63adf99a548327dc41215129cdb575a7_view.jpg)


(http://a1.img.mobypicture.com/8d56f7cc9ef04ebecd9314d0e186eeb1_view.jpg)
 :D
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:41:48 PM
Been kicked out by the wife again yet Howard?
LOL that would imply I actually got some poor woman to marry me once.  :'(
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:44:20 PM
Poor Howard seems like everybody hates him
Sounds like a great new reality TV show idea.
"EVREYONE hates Howard."

A panel can judge who hates me the most out of a diverse group of housemates forced to live and interact with me each day.
I doubt the show would last too long as most would kill themselves by the end of the first show. :-\
Title: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:46:21 PM
Why????????????????????????????????????? :'(

I'm nice enough, good enough , smart enough and dog gone it people really do like me...but not here at getbig.

Why? Why ????? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaah     Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 28, 2011, 01:46:31 PM
LOL that would imply I actually got some poor woman to marry me once.  :'(

Howard, i heard you blew your brains out at "The Apple Festival"

Glad to see you are Alive somewhat ok.  :-\
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: The.Giant on October 28, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
You're pathetic. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:50:49 PM
You're pathetic. Fuck off.
I know you can do better then that. C'mon give me your best, this is Howard you are insulting, so get to work.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 01:51:27 PM
Howard, i heard you blew your brains out at "The Apple Festival"

Glad to see you are Alive somewhat ok.  :-\
I am alive but since the apple festival...rotten to the core.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: supernick on October 28, 2011, 02:00:34 PM
i like u  :)
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 28, 2011, 02:04:44 PM
i like u  :)
Thanks at least I got 1 fan...I hope this wasn't a joke? was it?
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: disco_stu on October 28, 2011, 02:14:46 PM
i hate gh15 more than you.

he's a delusion dick. You are a bitter troll.

bitter trolls i can handle.

delusional, semi literate, self confessed experts really piss me off. they are ignorant to so many things.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: mass243 on October 28, 2011, 02:17:20 PM

Howard, you are all right  :)

Absolutely no homo. I respect old schoolers. I respect the hard black n' white training.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: TRIX on October 28, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
suck cock
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: LittleJ on October 28, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
I think of Howard like a uncle
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: BiGHer on October 28, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
Howard why do you spend so much time worrying about and focusing on gh15?  If you don't like him, who care.  If he or any other member of GetBig doesn't like you, who cares?  I never understood why people spend so much time focusing their energy on particular members of a board.  If you don't agree with gh15, just don't pay attention to him.  Some people really have these vendetta's that I just don't understand though.  When I don't like someone, I generally just avoid and ignore them.
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: TonyAlva on October 28, 2011, 02:43:22 PM
Howard, go to hell
Title: Re: Busted by getbig crack research team, damn.
Post by: TrueGrit on October 28, 2011, 02:54:12 PM
2 different types of physics.

Hmmm

Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: hench on October 28, 2011, 03:59:15 PM
Yea don't waste energy on gh15 if you don't like him. Be yourself, there's plenty of other people around and If someone doesn't like you tough shit.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: makaveli25 on October 28, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
Howard you the man. Team howard!  :)
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Vince B on October 28, 2011, 04:01:41 PM
Howard, you have blue stars. What more could you want!  
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: deceiver on October 28, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
Becouse you're fucking idiot thinking we're some bunch of kids. We don't have to be warned, we are more mature than you think and can think for our own without your useless help.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Rearden Metal on October 28, 2011, 04:07:46 PM
Howard. Honestly, if you were in my living room right now, I'd stab you and take a pic of you on my toilet for Getbig. Then I'd chainsaw your head off.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: makaveli25 on October 28, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
Howard. Honestly, if you were in my living room right now, I'd stab you and take a pic of you on my toilet for Getbig. Then I'd chainsaw your head off.

Lol  ;D
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: dyslexic on October 28, 2011, 04:10:44 PM
I'm madly in love with you Howard.

But I'm torn between two lovers.

I love Gh15 too.



What to do? Hump both of you?
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: w8m8 on October 28, 2011, 04:16:06 PM
LOL @ putting (Howard) in the title like no one would realise you made the thread


Howard, you have blue stars. What more could you want!  

lol
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: mass243 on October 28, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
Howard. Honestly, if you were in my living room right now, I'd stab you and take a pic of you on my toilet for Getbig. Then I'd chainsaw your head off.

Hahahham, that's sum' Mehican democracy right there
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: The Grim Lifter on October 28, 2011, 04:28:13 PM
Because you start threads titled 'Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)'
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: abijahmaniaco on October 28, 2011, 04:31:58 PM
you care too much bro.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: supernick on October 28, 2011, 04:33:36 PM
Thanks at least I got 1 fan...I hope this wasn't a joke? was it?
no no i like u
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: apply85 on October 28, 2011, 04:40:01 PM
people just pretend to like you
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: no one on October 28, 2011, 05:11:43 PM
suck cock

classic GB.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 28, 2011, 08:46:54 PM
or that?

STFU, Howard.

You're not remotely funny, or interesting, or anything.

Just fuck off. You're the village retard everyone got tired of making fun of, now you're only annoying.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Secret Stack on October 29, 2011, 08:55:10 AM
Some people seem to fail to grasp this, although for me it is pretty clear from your posts.


You compare to Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and so on, it's ridiculous if some noob 3 weeks in the gym thinks he can look like an IFBB pro in 6 months if he follows a drug program.

WTF  ??? what about when it was ryan seacrest week on getbig in the bible! lol

one of the best weeks in the bible about 2 years ago now.

gh15 said he could grab ryan seacrest and turn him proffesional in 6 months  ;D

i fucken loved ryan seacrest week!
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Hulkotron on October 29, 2011, 09:13:18 AM
chris could have been mr o if he didnt party and do narcotics,, he could have won it in my opinion ,, he knows it too

I am not so sure of this, I don't think he could defeat the Great One.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 29, 2011, 01:50:35 PM
Howard why do you spend so much time worrying about and focusing on gh15?  If you don't like him, who care.  If he or any other member of GetBig doesn't like you, who cares?  I never understood why people spend so much time focusing their energy on particular members of a board.  If you don't agree with gh15, just don't pay attention to him.  Some people really have these vendetta's that I just don't understand though.  When I don't like someone, I generally just avoid and ignore them.
I actually enjoy a lot of Gh15's posts even if I disagree with him at times.
My main issue is the idea that you have to do a bunch of AAS drugs to gain much muscle.
It has been my observation and personal experience, that 99% of guys who juice waste a lot of time, $$ and energy on it.
Unless you are going to be a top pro, just lift for yorself and spend the $$ on fun stuff.
You can have a life and be a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 29, 2011, 01:51:49 PM
I'm madly in love with you Howard.

But I'm torn between two lovers.

I love Gh15 too.



What to do? Hump both of you?
and that is why GOD invented threesomes   ;)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 29, 2011, 01:55:29 PM
STFU, Howard.

You're not remotely funny, or interesting, or anything.

Just fuck off. You're the village retard everyone got tired of making fun of, now you're only annoying.
Every place needs a good retard, and don't be  jealous that I now have that job here at getbig.
When I quit you are next in line. Your time will come, don't worry.
I have heard from many credible sources that you might  be a bigger retard them me.
You MIGHT have the potential to be the greatest retard in the history of getbig. Time will tell if surpass me.
Takes one, to know one .
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 29, 2011, 01:57:03 PM
Howard. Honestly, if you were in my living room right now, I'd stab you and take a pic of you on my toilet for Getbig. Then I'd chainsaw your head off.
If I'm not too busy I'll consider dropping by later. Sounds like a fun night.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 29, 2011, 02:00:53 PM
Yea don't waste energy on gh15 if you don't like him. Be yourself, there's plenty of other people around and If someone doesn't like you tough shit.
Gh15 is cool and interesting. I enjoy his posts.
I just take issue with his claims that you can't gain much muscle without drugs.
That seems silly and makes no sense to me.
If you train hard and eat right you will get a LOT bigger and stronger.

To take it to the next level, you use drugs.
Pretty simple and basic to me.

I don't undersdtand why Gh15 thinks drug use is a requirement for every recreational lifter who wants :  pecs , arms and a 6 pack.
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: dyslexic on October 29, 2011, 03:18:23 PM
and that is why GOD invented threesomes   ;)

Ha ha. Good one.


Now, where would you be?
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Howard on October 31, 2011, 02:48:11 PM
Ha ha. Good one.


Now, where would you be?
I would be on the bottom of the pile and just lay there like  chunky bitch :-*
Title: Re: Why do you love Gh15 and hate me ( Howard)
Post by: Brocty on October 31, 2011, 02:49:56 PM
I actually enjoy a lot of Gh15's posts even if I disagree with him at times.
My main issue is the idea that you have to do a bunch of AAS drugs to gain much muscle.
It has been my observation and personal experience, that 99% of guys who juice waste a lot of time, $$ and energy on it.
Unless you are going to be a top pro, just lift for yorself and spend the $$ on fun stuff.
You can have a life and be a bodybuilder.

Gear is the fun stuff  :)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Man of Steel on October 31, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
BB should only be a hobby....a  drug free hobby.  Get an education then start a business and/or get a real job.  Again, BB is a hobby....it's exercise LOL.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: purenaturalstrength on October 31, 2011, 03:35:07 PM
BB should only be a hobby....a  drug free hobby.  Get an education then start a business and/or get a real job.  Again, BB is a hobby....it's exercise LOL.
ronnie coleman's hobby is bodybuilding as well he said
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on October 31, 2011, 03:37:03 PM
BB should only be a hobby....a  drug free hobby.  Get an education then start a business and/or get a real job.  Again, BB is a hobby....it's exercise LOL.

Partying should only be a hobby....a  drug free hobby.  Get an education then start a business and/or get a real job. 





 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on October 31, 2011, 05:57:32 PM
Partying should only be a hobby....a  drug free hobby.  Get an education then start a business and/or get a real job. 





 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Screw school !
I make $9.75 and hr in the drill bit factory and I dropped out in Jr high. THat's real $$ and a real steady job .
School is for fags and those that don't know how to work a real job.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 31, 2011, 06:00:34 PM
Screw school !
I make $9.75 and hr in the drill bit factory and I dropped out in Jr high. THat's real $$ and a real steady job .
School is for fags and those that don't know how to work a real job.

They start you out at $15 a hour over in Dalton.  :D :D 8) 8) School is for suckers.  :o :o
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Brocty on October 31, 2011, 07:36:06 PM
BB should only be a hobby....a  drug free hobby.  Get an education then start a business and/or get a real job.  Again, BB is a hobby....it's exercise LOL.

ohh, you must be that jealous asshat that goes around in the gym and talks shit about guys who are bigger and in shape, saying they are all steroids to make yourself feel better, while you finish up your curls and head home filling your face with cream filled donuts and burgers crying to yourself you wish you could be in better shape..

kindly go fuck off
Title: Calling out GH15 on his advice
Post by: Secret Stack on November 01, 2011, 08:28:21 AM
called him a "mother fucker" here:

Quote from: Ron Harris;2826493
GH15 approved.

If he is GH15, FUCK THAT MOTHER FUCKER.


....verifies he has been following gh15 and his posts here:

Quote from: Ron Harris;2826534
GH15 has gone out of his way to insult and slander me on GetBig for a couple years. Assuming it is one person and not a few people sharing that account, he is a very bitter, evil man.


....and says it is bullshit that MD offered gh15 a column here:

Quote from: Ron Harris;2826537
He claimed Steve Blechman offered him a column, but his conditions were a high salary and that I be fired.

I asked Steve about it, and he said, "who the hell is GH15?"


Steve Blechman: "who the hell is gh15?"  :o
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: mass243 on November 01, 2011, 08:34:29 AM

HAHAHA

Big gh15 should rip that asshole a new one  ;D 8)

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 01, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
He has the last laugh over ron harris, he has a column in uscular development
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Swlabr on November 01, 2011, 08:42:22 AM
Harris has the most punchable face in bodybuild:

(http://www.dietandexerciseguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ron-harris-189x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 01, 2011, 08:43:10 AM
Ronda Harris shall keep that deformed mouth shut.
A cretin who juices to have his man buddies lick his sore ass.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 01, 2011, 08:44:28 AM
Can't wait till God sees this ! Hahahaha !
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 01, 2011, 08:54:56 AM
fucking lol'ed at gh15's conditions to write a column
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
And what was the cause that Ron became so angry? Right, GH was fucking spot on about him!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 01, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
fucking lol'ed at gh15's conditions to write a column

explain cant wait to hear this shit
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: True on November 01, 2011, 09:21:12 AM
Thread has potential. 8)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 09:24:40 AM
ohh, you must be that jealous asshat that goes around in the gym and talks shit about guys who are bigger and in shape, saying they are all steroids to make yourself feel better, while you finish up your curls and head home filling your face with cream filled donuts and burgers crying to yourself you wish you could be in better shape..

kindly go fuck off

Settle down princess, it's just exercise.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Skeletor on November 01, 2011, 09:28:45 AM
Maybe gh15 won't care about liar Ron Heris, he's been exposed so much that no one talks about him anymore.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The.Giant on November 01, 2011, 09:31:50 AM
Fuck Ron Harris.

Garbage physique, shitty writer.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: jon cole on November 01, 2011, 09:32:47 AM
i'm calling out ron harris.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: tendonitis on November 01, 2011, 09:33:35 AM
Ron "ebony mountain of muscle" Harris should really keep his mouth shut because every time he opens it he makes himself look like an idiot.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 01, 2011, 09:41:07 AM
Ron "ebony mountain of muscle" Harris should really keep his mouth shut because every time he opens it he makes himself look like an idiot.

That's because he is an idiot. I remember watching a muscle rx vid and ron harris was inside the area where the dude/tte trained who the vid was all about. Well good Ronda permanently tried to get camera time - like a 14 year old. Palumbo made some snide remarks dubbing the vid and they were spot on... Dave's a crook but a witty one.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 01, 2011, 09:47:15 AM
I'm no gh fan, but Ron Harris is motherf*cking liar, and a total disgrace.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: L.L on November 01, 2011, 10:07:14 AM
Herris is a joke , specially physically.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: mass243 on November 01, 2011, 10:26:09 AM

He is almost smaller than Big Down Hill  :o
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 01, 2011, 10:27:44 AM
LOL at the filth Herris, all the Trenbolonga he can get his girly hands on and still looks so shit he has to claim natural ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 10:30:31 AM
y'all wait til gh15 gets to this thread and starts retortin and addin "ona" to every word.....oh snap girl!!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Tito24 on November 01, 2011, 10:37:16 AM
is there something harris?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 01, 2011, 10:40:28 AM
godbless gh15 for not selling out.  he's done more for bodybuild than the weiders and arnold combined.








































who the fuck is ron harris?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: First Blood on November 01, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
fucking lol'ed at gh15's conditions to write a column

Me too  :D

Sounded very funny for some reason
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Xerxes on November 01, 2011, 11:04:49 AM
(http://erooups.com/img/img3/20100407/erotic/daily_erotic_picdump_235_34.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
BIG RON HARRIS..... ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: nosleep on November 01, 2011, 11:58:29 AM
TELL THAT BITCH TO COME OVER HERE,SIGN UP AT THE THUNDERDOME WHICH EVERYTHING FUCKING GOES. PUSSY ASS WILL BE RAN OUTTA HERE THAN DERDICK ANTHONY.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 01, 2011, 12:15:28 PM
TELL THAT BITCH TO COME OVER HERE,SIGN UP AT THE THUNDERDOME WHICH EVERYTHING FUCKING GOES. PUSSY ASS WILL BE RAN OUTTA HERE THAN DERDICK ANTHONY.

he is here,, heris is here reding every word,,like all the rest of that filt group of liars,,when heris understnd that the hate tward him is due to his consistant lies then he maybe wil get somewhere in bodybuild,, he didnt get anywhere in bodybuuild because everyone EVRYONE catched up to his lies,,

that 45 year old mental case not only lie about the doses he take but he atual lie about the products! ,, he lie about other fellas that make money out of bodybuild inorder to sell illusion to bunch of kidos around the world, those kidos make his salary ,, those kidos put a dress on his whores body,,those kidos put bread on his table,,

he is trenbolona ace addict! he uses human growth hormone,, and still! cant get to be more than a decent gym rat level,, so he go to compete natural ,, why? because his genetic repond suck! he didnt discover gh in the right time,, trenbolona ace can that far if you start as complete shit ...so he owes his placing and his work to the drug trenbolona ace,, to the drug testosterona and to the drug hgh

what is there to say about heris that have not been said,, he is attention moneky,, he is very arogent yet doesnt hav ethe physiqe to be able to walk around arogant ,, very sub average physiqe,, he just doesnt have what it take to be top npc bodybuild..not ifbb pro but top npc! ,,his abdominal suck because he alway rely on drugs to improve the fucked up physiqe he has,, the reason he look like unmatched pieces nwo days is because unlike his lies! he gave up and went to the hormone side all hand and feet in ,, he is living on trenbolona ace ,, he use growth hormone,, he use testosterona  he doing what any bodybuild does and live to lie about it and write balonie to many fellas that interes in bodybuild,, those fellas when starting actualy believ his balonie and fall for it ,,

he is disgrace to the jew people ,, he is disgrace to son and mother relashion,, he is disgrace to his own family ,, he should go to senigog and put good donation if he has any money,, and sit ther eand talk to rabi shmuel ,,open his filt heart ,,and maybe become an ortodox jew,,he is the ugly ugly pictur behind bodybuild,, i despize this fella

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: nosleep on November 01, 2011, 12:32:11 PM
he is here,, heris is here reding every word,,like all the rest of that filt group of liars,,when heris understnd that the hate tward him is due to his consistant lies then he maybe wil get somewhere in bodybuild,, he didnt get anywhere in bodybuuild because everyone EVRYONE catched up to his lies,,

that 45 year old mental case not only lie about the doses he take but he atual lie about the products! ,, he lie about other fellas that make money out of bodybuild inorder to sell illusion to bunch of kidos around the world, those kidos make his salary ,, those kidos put a dress on his whores body,,those kidos put bread on his table,,

he is trenbolona ace addict! he uses human growth hormone,, and still! cant get to be more than a decent gym rat level,, so he go to compete natural ,, why? because his genetic repond suck! he didnt discover gh in the right time,, trenbolona ace can that far if you start as complete shit ...so he owes his placing and his work to the drug trenbolona ace,, to the drug testosterona and to the drug hgh

what is there to say about heris that have not been said,, he is attention moneky,, he is very arogent yet doesnt hav ethe physiqe to be able to walk around arogant ,, very sub average physiqe,, he just doesnt have what it take to be top npc bodybuild..not ifbb pro but top npc! ,,his abdominal suck because he alway rely on drugs to improve the fucked up physiqe he has,, the reason he look like unmatched pieces nwo days is because unlike his lies! he gave up and went to the hormone side all hand and feet in ,, he is living on trenbolona ace ,, he use growth hormone,, he use testosterona  he doing what any bodybuild does and live to lie about it and write balonie to many fellas that interes in bodybuild,, those fellas when starting actualy believ his balonie and fall for it ,,

he is disgrace to the jew people ,, he is disgrace to son and mother relashion,, he is disgrace to his own family ,, he should go to senigog and put good donation if he has any money,, and sit ther eand talk to rabi shmuel ,,open his filt heart ,,and maybe become an ortodox jew,,he is the ugly ugly pictur behind bodybuild,, i despize this fella

gh15 approved

U THINK IF HE USED QUALITY GH-LIKE KIGS, OR QUALITY GEAR-LIKE STRANGO IT'D CHANGE.

AND PUSSY HERIS, SPEAK UP HERE guy. ANYTHING GOES.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
GH15 will never be reveled, NEVER DAMIT! NEEEVeeeeRR!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 01, 2011, 12:44:52 PM
no my friend,, he already changed,, he took very very low level physiqe and got it to look decent,, this is due to abuse of trenbolona and usage of hgh,, he cant improve,, he maxed ,, his genetic respond is just ,,well lets call it low,,
gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Max B on November 01, 2011, 12:46:33 PM
U THINK IF HE USED QUALITY GH-LIKE KIGS, OR QUALITY GEAR-LIKE STRANGO IT'D CHANGE.

AND PUSSY HERIS, SPEAK UP HERE ####. ANYTHING GOES.

Lol he does use that stuff. He uses the best gear. Pros hook him up w everything for ghost writing those shitty articles.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
My God, what if gh15 actually IS Ron Harris...... :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 01, 2011, 12:49:43 PM
My God, what if gh15 actually IS Ron Harris...... :o :o :o :o

that filt is liar,, dont ever EVER put me in comparison to this filt ,, i wish him pre mature death

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: rkw1969 on November 01, 2011, 12:51:08 PM
 "those kidos put a dress on his whores body"

damn, gh15 called his woman a whore lol
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 12:52:04 PM
that filt is liar,, dont ever EVER put me in comparison to this filt ,, i wish him pre mature death

gh15 approved
Sorry sir, I made an indecent joke..... :-\
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: deceiver on November 01, 2011, 12:53:15 PM
His face is so fucking ugly, unbelievable.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 12:58:11 PM
After 30 years of bodybuilding mister Harris has build himself an amazing physique...... :-X
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: deceiver on November 01, 2011, 01:06:51 PM
There's something in his face that yells "I am a liar, falsy shit and scum".
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 01:14:01 PM
There's something in his face that yells "I am a liar, falsy shit and scum".
X2 plus: "beat me up, please..."
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: hangclean on November 01, 2011, 01:16:43 PM
U THINK IF HE USED QUALITY GH-LIKE KIGS, OR QUALITY GEAR-LIKE STRANGO IT'D CHANGE.

AND PUSSY HERIS, SPEAK UP HERE ####. ANYTHING GOES.
LOL!!!!  believe me, a guy like that is using better gh than kigtropin.  Also, the drugs will only get you as far as your genetics will allow.  It's unbelievable how you guys think the drugs are literally everything.  Harris is a perfect example of why you are wrong about that.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: True on November 01, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
There's something in his face that yells "I am a liar, falsy shit and scum".

My thoughts exactly! Hes literally got the face of a liar... A discusting one that is... :-X
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 01, 2011, 01:44:01 PM
After 30 years of bodybuilding mister Harris has build himself an amazing physique...... :-X
Looks like Michael Emerson, actor/channeler of weasels.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Skeletor on November 01, 2011, 01:44:56 PM
After 30 years of bodybuilding mister Harris has build himself an amazing physique...... :-X

LOL
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 01:49:01 PM
And all his shitty articles, must be thousands of them...

Greg Zulak, that's a guy I liked, but I'm not even sure he's still alive. Life didn't turn out that well for him..
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: apply85 on November 01, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
LOL!!!!  believe me, a guy like that is using better gh than kigtropin.  Also, the drugs will only get you as far as your genetics will allow.  It's unbelievable how you guys think the drugs are literally everything.  Harris is a perfect example of why you are wrong about that.

why are we wrong about it, he has shit genetics but he took drugs and now he is e-famous and makes a buck from bodybuilding, all because of drugs
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2011, 01:55:40 PM
Sorry sir, I made an indecent joke..... :-\

Too late, he will cut your gear supply, say bye bye mutation
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 01, 2011, 01:55:48 PM
fucking lol'ed at gh15's conditions to write a column

 :D that is good!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:02:03 PM
Too late, he will cut your gear supply, say bye bye mutation
Than I will haunt Gunter gh15 with the 1988 Europameister....
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: deceiver on November 01, 2011, 02:02:28 PM
does anyone wanna hear how md crew fucked up md poland crew? i bet ron harrys was involved in it big time. you wondered why there are no md poland interviews from big events, right?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2011, 02:09:43 PM
Than I will haunt Gunter gh15 with the 1988 Europameister....

So he lost the title back then? I remember a Dutch guy placed second after Gunter, but got disqualified for testing positive.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 01, 2011, 02:18:32 PM
I have to agree with GH-15 on this subject.I cannot stand when a guy on drugs enters a natural show.Its a bunch of bull shit.
I dont cant if you use gear, or dont use gear.But if you use gear, dont enter drug tested shows.Its a very unfair advantage.Only a coward would compete against natural guys, while using anabolics.Its like brining a gun to a knife fight.
Ron,is a decent writer, how ever, his physique is horrid, even on juice.
If I looked that bad on juice after 30 years of training I might take up another sport like cycling or running.Bodybuilding is not in his cards.
If you see him in person he looks about 170-175lbs tops.
If I didnt know him and saw him walking down the street I would think he might work out at his house 3-4 times a week.I call them back yard benchers ..I would never beleive he used gear.170lbs and 15 1/2" arms on gear ,its time to pull the gun out and shoot yourself, in the head.Make sure you dont miss, lol
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: nosleep on November 01, 2011, 02:27:22 PM
LOL!!!!  believe me, a guy like that is using better gh than kigtropin.  Also, the drugs will only get you as far as your genetics will allow.  It's unbelievable how you guys think the drugs are literally everything.  Harris is a perfect example of why you are wrong about that.

BUT THEN AGAIN...NASSER WAS ALL DRUGS. LOOKED LOOK A SKINNY GOOF WITHOUT EM. THAT OTHER MIDDLE EASTERN GUY IS ALL DRUGS.

GENETICS MATTER, I GET UR POINT. BUT THE GENETIC RESPONSE TO DRUGS MATTER THE MOST.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
BUT THEN AGAIN...NASSER WAS ALL DRUGS. LOOKED LOOK A SKINNY GOOF WITHOUT EM. THAT OTHER MIDDLE EASTERN GUY IS ALL DRUGS.

GENETICS MATTER, I GET UR POINT. BUT THE GENETIC RESPONSE TO DRUGS MATTER THE MOST.
What other middle eastern guy ?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 01, 2011, 02:33:29 PM
My biggest issue with Ron Harris is that he has a small penis.

He has little hands, feet, arms and a terribly small penis.

Aside from that, he is a very well-spoken individual, smart and fully capable of getting himself and others into great shape come competition time.

"1"
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Wiggs on November 01, 2011, 02:35:18 PM
My biggest issue with Ron Harris is that he has a small penis.

He has little hands, feet, arms and a terribly small penis.

Aside from that, he is a very well-spoken individual, smart and fully capable of getting himself and others into great shape come competition time.

"1"

LMAO!!!  Terribly small huh?  Does Mr. Harris have things?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: nosleep on November 01, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
What other middle eastern guy ?

IDK HIS NAME BUT HE WAS THE STARTING PICTURE OF ONE THREAD CALLED LIKE DRUGS ARE THE FINISHING TOUCH.

SKINNY FAT INDIAN OR MIDDLE EASTERN DUDE TO A THICK, JACKED ONE.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:38:07 PM
My biggest issue with Ron Harris is that he has a small penis.

Aside from that, he is a very well-spoken individual, smart and fully capable of getting himself and others into great shape come competition time.

"1"
There is really no "aside from that".... ;D

Plus I am very positive a guy like RH checks out getbig on a regular basis, don't you think so  ?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: hangclean on November 01, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
BUT THEN AGAIN...NASSER WAS ALL DRUGS. LOOKED LOOK A SKINNY GOOF WITHOUT EM. THAT OTHER MIDDLE EASTERN GUY IS ALL DRUGS.

GENETICS MATTER, I GET UR POINT. BUT THE GENETIC RESPONSE TO DRUGS MATTER THE MOST.
you realize it's the same exact thing, right?  GENETIC response to drugs?  GENETICS?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 01, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
There is really no "aside from that".... ;D

Plus I am very positive a guy like RH checks out getbig on a regular basis, don't you think so  ?

I'm sure he lives here.

He is to Getbig what Charles Glass is to Gold's gym.

"1"
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 01, 2011, 02:42:12 PM
Dude, this guy has a pro card?  I'm being serious, he has to be the worst piece of shit to ever grace a pro stage, even worse than Kovacs.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
Dude, this guy has a pro card?  I'm being serious, he has to be the worst piece of shit to ever grace a pro stage, even worse than Kovacs.
Get real, he never had a pro card...
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 01, 2011, 02:50:18 PM
He has the last laugh over ron harris, he has a column in uscular development


Well, that narrows it down...  :-X
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: deceiver on November 01, 2011, 02:54:22 PM
He's got abs (or gut) and other characteristics of heavily roided guy and arms of guy who works out from time to time. I mean on stage, of course on photoshopped pictures from MD he looks kinda good.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Sumpa on November 01, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
does anyone wanna hear how md crew fucked up md poland crew? i bet ron harrys was involved in it big time. you wondered why there are no md poland interviews from big events, right?

Yes, please tell us!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
Ron A., please make a "I hate Ron Harris" sticky, it would mean so much to so many getbiggers...please?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DK II on November 01, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
I have to agree with GH-15 on this subject.I cannot stand when a guy on drugs enters a natural show.Its a bunch of bull shit.
I dont cant if you use gear, or dont use gear.But if you use gear, dont enter drug tested shows.Its a very unfair advantage.Only a coward would compete against natural guys, while using anabolics.Its like brining a gun to a knife fight.
Ron,is a decent writer, how ever, his physique is horrid, even on juice.
If I looked that bad on juice after 30 years of training I might take up another sport like cycling or running.Bodybuilding is not in his cards.
If you see him in person he looks about 170-175lbs tops.
If I didnt know him and saw him walking down the street I would think he might work out at his house 3-4 times a week.I call them back yard benchers ..I would never beleive he used gear.170lbs and 15 1/2" arms on gear ,its time to pull the gun out and shoot yourself, in the head.Make sure you dont miss, lol

x2
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 01, 2011, 03:01:46 PM
The problem is quite simple.1) poor genetics 2) poor responder, plus he wore out his receptors by not coming off 3) He uses weight that is to heavy for him so he can impress people in his online videos.Its a fu#$# mess.
So you have a man with bad shape, with fried receptors, and poor form shaping his poor shaped body even worse then it already is.He uses terrible form.He uses strictly momentum to move the weight.
If you have poor genetics-poor shape, you need to pay attention to how you train.
How you train is how you look.All the drugs in the world will not fix, somebody is they arent using full range of montion and cheating to lift the weight.When I say cheating I mean only momentum, not the muscle to lift the weight
Am I right GH-15
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 03:02:27 PM
So he lost the title back then? I remember a Dutch guy placed second after Gunter, but got disqualified for testing positive.
Soccer you fool...
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: deceiver on November 01, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
Yes, please tell us!

So, once upon a time MD Poland were going all over the world and doing many interviews with bodybuilding celebrities. They actually knew anything about modern bodybuilding, asked interesting questions and unlike Chiwawa and rest of crew they could actually read competitors names and knew anything about them. So it wasn't big surprise when they decided to publish polish MD videos on official MD site they got many more hits than Chiwawa. American MD got furious about that and felt endangered so they banned Polish MD from every international event :D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 03:09:00 PM
MD Poland?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Sumpa on November 01, 2011, 03:19:54 PM
So, once upon a time MD Poland were going all over the world and doing many interviews with bodybuilding celebrities. They actually knew anything about modern bodybuilding, asked interesting questions and unlike Chiwawa and rest of crew they could actually read competitors names and knew anything about them. So it wasn't big surprise when they decided to publish polish MD videos on official MD site they got many more hits than Chiwawa. American MD got furious about that and felt endangered so they banned Polish MD from every international event :D

Why am I not surprised... Shawn Ray does it again!

Sad story, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2011, 03:28:02 PM
MD Poland?

Dobre!

http://musculardevelopment.pl/
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: suckmymuscle on November 01, 2011, 03:32:00 PM

Greg Zulak, that's a guy I liked, but I'm not even sure he's still alive. Life didn't turn out that well for him..

  That is one guy I miss. His old Q&A in MuscleMag back in the 1990s and early 2000s was worth the price of the magazine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 03:40:33 PM
  That is one guy I miss. His old Q&A in MuscleMag back in the 1990s and early 2000s was worth the price of the magazine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Yes,they were great,then they went to shit and became little more than an area to plug Muscletech products,then Greg was gone soon afterwards.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 01, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
  That is one guy I miss. His old Q&A in MuscleMag back in the 1990s and early 2000s was worth the price of the magazine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Greg in those Q&A's said exactly what GH15 is saying now in regards to what pros do with doses etc yet you say GH15 is full of shit ?  :-\
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 01, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
The problem is quite simple.1) poor genetics 2) poor responder, plus he wore out his receptors by not coming off 3) He uses weight that is to heavy for him so he can impress people in his online videos.Its a fu#$# mess.
So you have a man with bad shape, with fried receptors, and poor form shaping his poor shaped body even worse then it already is.He uses terrible form.He uses strictly momentum to move the weight.
If you have poor genetics-poor shape, you need to pay attention to how you train.
How you train is how you look.All the drugs in the world will not fix, somebody is they arent using full range of montion and cheating to lift the weight.When I say cheating I mean only momentum, not the muscle to lift the weight
Am I right GH-15

corect,, no receptor nothing,, he just climb into the right products too late,, he found the gh too late,, everything he does is too late,, + bad genetic respond...still enough to go on team universe ,, lie ,, and get a trophe

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Bgpapi23 on November 01, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
Quote Gh15 "I HOPE HE DIES A PREMATURE DEATH"...I laughed so hard after reading this that I spit my dinner out!!!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 01, 2011, 04:01:37 PM
GH-15,I think pro body builders  think 2 things about him 1) He is a joke, so they give him there left overs of what didnt work or they dont want.2) They dont respect him because they know he is using gear while doing natural shows.
I know my my share of pro bodybuilders, and they dont like people who lie, or head hunt.When I mean by head hunting go into tested shows dirty.
I bet the people who supply him give him the stuff they dont want, because if he cries, they can just blow the whistle on him.
I think if he was on decent gear he wouldnt look god, but not as bad as he does .Granted his receptors are shot, but dam.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 04:03:10 PM
GH-15,I think pro body builders  think 2 things about him 1) He is a joke, so they give him there left overs of what didnt work or they dont want.2) They dont respect him because they know he is using gear while doing natural shows.
I know my my share of pro bodybuilders, and they dont like people who lie, or head hunt.When I mean by head hunting go into tested shows dirty.
I bet the people who supply him give him the stuff they dont want, because if he cries, they can just blow the whistle on him.
I think if he was on decent gear he wouldnt look god, but not as bad as he does .Granted his receptors are shot, but dam.
C`mon John,do you really actually truly believe that everyone doing the Team Universe is all natural.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: First Blood on November 01, 2011, 04:21:04 PM
So, once upon a time MD Poland were going all over the world and doing many interviews with bodybuilding celebrities. They actually knew anything about modern bodybuilding, asked interesting questions and unlike Chiwawa and rest of crew they could actually read competitors names and knew anything about them. So it wasn't big surprise when they decided to publish polish MD videos on official MD site they got many more hits than Chiwawa. American MD got furious about that and felt endangered so they banned Polish MD from every international event :D

That is messed up. Sounds like the Poles need to go solo!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2011, 04:25:54 PM
Soccer you fool...

You mean 22 overpaid morons running after one fucking ball? I'm a noob on that field, and proud of it.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 01, 2011, 05:19:40 PM
Granted his receptors are shot, but dam.

i wanna see some science behind receptor degrading. i thought llewellyn suggested this at one point, but took another look i can't find any evidence.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: First Blood on November 01, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
i wanna see some science behind receptor degrading. i thought llewellyn suggested this at one point, but took another look i can't find any evidence.

Gh15 says it's nonsense.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: L.L on November 01, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
If I were Herris I'd be hating too. I mean , the guy has been around The Creme of the Crop of this cult for more than 20 year, abusing roids like crazy and still looking like mediocre gym rat at best..Id be mad at the world too ..lol


gh 15 is giving Heris too much credit...Heris physique won;t even place top 15 @ a local show in Miami ,Fl.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 01, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
If you dont think your receptor degrading, just look at anybody who has abused steroids or drugs for any period of time.
Look at Ronnie Coleman now,his body doesnt look the same, and it wont repsond like it did, back in the day.Same with Dorian toward the end of his career, his body started to look bad and was comming aprt at the seams.
Once your repeptors stert degrading, you will see a persons body, start looking worse and worse.It wont repsond to anabolics like it did.
Then there placing go from 1, then 4th, then 6th then 14th.
It happened to lots of bodybuilders,Gaspari,Nasser just to name a few.
I know lots of guys over the years, who after many years of steroid abuse, there body just wont respond anymore.Some are so bad there dick wont work anymore.
Steroids are like any other drugs, there is use and abuse.If you stay on them you will wear out your body and your receptors quickly.
What most guys dont realize is this.Dont make your cycles longer then 8 weeks, and when you come off, stay of of everything !!!! I mean everything.
Clean out your liver, (Using a 1/2 lemon 1/2 cup of Olive oil and 1 cup of water, once a day for 7 to 10 days )and get a colonic.
When your off, make sure you eat enouh ,and dont train as long.Give your body ample amounts of rest, when you sleep.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Stavios on November 01, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
I won't say anything about his physique because I personally thinks he looks good.

but the last few years, the guys has been saying the stupidest shits and I hate him for that
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
I won't say anything about his physique because I personally thinks he looks good.

but the last few years, the guys has been saying the stupidest shits and I hate him for that
stav ur good guy [no homo],,,harris has decent build and competed at the level he possibly could.he has admitted his physique shortcoming's.don't know how he come's off in real life or gym.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 01, 2011, 08:31:25 PM
coital abomination
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 01, 2011, 08:47:19 PM
If you dont think your receptor degrading, just look at anybody who has abused steroids or drugs for any period of time.
Look at Ronnie Coleman now,his body doesnt look the same, and it wont repsond like it did, back in the day.Same with Dorian toward the end of his career, his body started to look bad and was comming aprt at the seams.
Once your repeptors stert degrading, you will see a persons body, start looking worse and worse.It wont repsond to anabolics like it did.
Then there placing go from 1, then 4th, then 6th then 14th.
It happened to lots of bodybuilders,Gaspari,Nasser just to name a few.
I know lots of guys over the years, who after many years of steroid abuse, there body just wont respond anymore.Some are so bad there dick wont work anymore.
Steroids are like any other drugs, there is use and abuse.If you stay on them you will wear out your body and your receptors quickly.
What most guys dont realize is this.Dont make your cycles longer then 8 weeks, and when you come off, stay of of everything !!!! I mean everything.
Clean out your liver, (Using a 1/2 lemon 1/2 cup of Olive oil and 1 cup of water, once a day for 7 to 10 days )and get a colonic.
When your off, make sure you eat enouh ,and dont train as long.Give your body ample amounts of rest, when you sleep.

no,, you cant build efective machine like that,, your body is your machine ,, you dont go on 8 week only go get off everything,, we dont operate this way friend,,

we go on and stay on! ,, we reduce some products,, we interchange bwteen hgh and trenbolona ace to try to keep condition TRY... btu when all come to put on a show we load on everything and big time everything,, but there is alwya sfew products in system at any given time

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 01, 2011, 08:53:01 PM
getitonny is always full of shit

supplements  ::)

he must go to house of the rising sun and call on anwar sadat and then go over the border and visit Shabak
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 01, 2011, 10:47:23 PM
Whole lotta bullshittin' goin' on in this here thread, that's fo sho.


Here's the funniest part: Ron Harris is a name in the bodybuilding realm that everyone (in the realm) knows of. Whether they like him, hate him, or are just plain *indifferent* ~ they still know who he is.


What does that tell you?


Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: el numero uno on November 01, 2011, 10:52:09 PM
Whole lotta bullshittin' goin' on in this here thread, that's fo sho.


Here's the funniest part: Ron Harris is a name in the bodybuilding realm that everyone (in the realm) knows of. Whether they like him, hate him, or are just plain *indifferent* ~ they still know who he is.


What does that tell you?




That in America you can make a living even if you are the worst at what you do the best?   ???
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 01, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
That in America you can make a living even if you are the worst at what you do the best?   ???

Or bad publicity is better than *no* publicity?


How much money you think that punk makes in a year? Ha ha!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: el numero uno on November 01, 2011, 11:00:04 PM
Or bad publicity is better than *no* publicity?


How much money you think that punk makes in a year? Ha ha!

I would rather no publicity, only naive teenagers could believe that piece of shit, he is hated by a loooooooooooooot of people, but like you guys say, whatever floats your boat
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: el numero uno on November 01, 2011, 11:01:16 PM
well,maybe not hated, but people really dislike him  :-\
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 01, 2011, 11:29:31 PM
I had no idea Ron was competing in Natty federations.  People who use aas should not be competing in Natty federations!   
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 02, 2011, 12:48:48 AM
I had no idea Ron was competing in Natty federations.  People who use aas should not be competing in Natty federations!   

...but he is claiming natural. this is the whole war between gh15 vs. ron harris.

ron thinks he is in the right...  ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 02, 2011, 01:07:21 AM
look in to th ejef long thing,, your  blood will boil ,, that scambag spit in your face,, straight out spit! in your face

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 02, 2011, 01:43:50 AM
...but he is claiming natural. this is the whole war between gh15 vs. ron harris.

ron thinks he is in the right...  ::)
He's in the wrong because that is "cheating".  I have nothing against people who take aas and compete in a non drug tested show, but if you are going to go up against the Natties then you had better be a true natural.  It makes my blood boil.  I have seen natural competitors get fucked over by these lying cheats. 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 02, 2011, 02:22:41 AM
I`ve done several contests with Ron,and he`s not a bad guy at all........plus he has a good build depending on his condition at any given contest.

He makes a good living as a writer and loves the sport of bodybuilding........henc e he trains and competes.

I hate the way he trains but that`s his business!  ;D

As far as drugs go,he has admitted using tons in the past for many years, but not long ago says he has ceased all drugs and competes naturally.

I don`t know or care if it`s true personally.

Flame me if you want to but I`m not a sheep who jumps on the bandwagon as many of you don`t even know the fucking guy.

Not trying to go against the grain here,but he`d beat a lot of the guys hating on him in this thread quite handily in his best shape.

You guys are like a fucking lynch mob in an old western flick for Christs sake!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 02, 2011, 02:38:32 AM
he's used a ton of stuff for years in the past, but only now that he's gone natural he is making progress?

this guy kicked things into over drive ever since he visited dorian at his gym.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 02, 2011, 02:40:28 AM
he's used a ton of stuff for years in the past, but only now that he's gone natural he is making progress?

this guy kicked things into over drive ever since he visited dorian at his gym.
I`m just repeating what he said,I could really give two fucks myself.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 02, 2011, 02:58:14 AM
I`ve done several contests with Ron,and he`s not a bad guy at all........plus he has a good build depending on his condition at any given contest.

He makes a good living as a writer and loves the sport of bodybuilding........henc e he trains and competes.

I hate the way he trains but that`s his business!  ;D

As far as drugs go,he has admitted using tons in the past for many years, but not long ago says he has ceased all drugs and competes naturally.

I don`t know or care if it`s true personally.

Flame me if you want to but I`m not a sheep who jumps on the bandwagon as many of you don`t even know the fucking guy.

Not trying to go against the grain here,but he`d beat a lot of the guys hating on him in this thread quite handily in his best shape.

You guys are like a fucking lynch mob in an old western flick for Christs sake!!  ;D

thats not true,, he would lose to many in the thunderodme in competition because he was never meant to do bodybuild,, just take a look at his structure,, it is horrid,, but aside from this...

fellas is a filthy liar,, make a living as writer OF LIES,, he talk and inject lies into the sport he so call love,, what kind of fella inject lies into something he loves? do you know many sadistic fellas who would love something and do this to the love of their life?

he is still on many hormones,, he advanced in his own mind because he started hgh and trenbolona and find the right combo for him ,, he lack a lot in structure that is why he cant compete in npc aside from the fake natural balonie he want to claim ,,

he is the problem! not the solution ,, he is the problem,, MNAY MANY FELLAS THAT READ HIM ARE VERY MAD AT HIM ,,

as i recomended to him before,, he is jew,, he has jew mother if you have jew mother you are ALWAYS JEW,, he should go to the closest senigog and put contributition ,, talk to rabi david or shmuel or whomever the rabi of that specific senigog ,, tell him he want to be a better man ,, and sit there for a while listen to the old jew talk because they are very smart,, his people are very smart the creme of the crop ,, they would bring him to humility and will explain him that the way of lie is not the way of dignity,,

i myself consider ron heris as filth ,, maybe the worst fella in none competetive bodybuild history ,, i consider him not tewister but straight out LIAR,, he ruined alot of young hearts and for that he will pay with his own kids,, for there is a jew saying in the bible ,, father sins and sons will pay ,, one say his daughter son will pay for his sins ,,it is in the jew bible it may be not contected to bodybuild but it wil be something that wil make ron heris shout from the inside and shout loud deep and painfully

the god of the jew people! jehova is its name never forget ,, it never forget the sinners

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 02, 2011, 06:11:26 AM
thats not true,, he would lose to many in the thunderodme in competition because he was never meant to do bodybuild,, just take a look at his structure,, it is horrid,, but aside from this...

fellas is a filthy liar,, make a living as writer OF LIES,, he talk and inject lies into the sport he so call love,, what kind of fella inject lies into something he loves? do you know many sadistic fellas who would love something and do this to the love of their life?

he is still on many hormones,, he advanced in his own mind because he started hgh and trenbolona and find the right combo for him ,, he lack a lot in structure that is why he cant compete in npc aside from the fake natural balonie he want to claim ,,

he is the problem! not the solution ,, he is the problem,, MNAY MANY FELLAS THAT READ HIM ARE VERY MAD AT HIM ,,

as i recomended to him before,, he is jew,, he has jew mother if you have jew mother you are ALWAYS JEW,, he should go to the closest senigog and put contributition ,, talk to rabi david or shmuel or whomever the rabi of that specific senigog ,, tell him he want to be a better man ,, and sit there for a while listen to the old jew talk because they are very smart,, his people are very smart the creme of the crop ,, they would bring him to humility and will explain him that the way of lie is not the way of dignity,,

i myself consider ron heris as filth ,, maybe the worst fella in none competetive bodybuild history ,, i consider him not tewister but straight out LIAR,, he ruined alot of young hearts and for that he will pay with his own kids,, for there is a jew saying in the bible ,, father sins and sons will pay ,, one say his daughter son will pay for his sins ,,it is in the jew bible it may be not contected to bodybuild but it wil be something that wil make ron heris shout from the inside and shout loud deep and painfully

the god of the jew people! jehova is its name never forget ,, it never forget the sinners

gh15 approved

Geez finally a guy you hate more than me ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: madg on November 02, 2011, 06:28:31 AM
Geez finally a guy you hate more than me ;D


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 02, 2011, 07:01:56 AM
You have to be off all aas for several years (5-7 I think) before you can compete in a Natty federation. 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 02, 2011, 07:33:52 AM
GH-15, What is really sad, is Ron Haris, is probably going to create a thread over at the MD baord saying.Those guys over at getbig, actually think I use anabolics.Then he will follow up with, I must look pretty good for them to think my photo shopped pics look.At get big they are a bunch of haters,lol.I am natural, if you dont beleive me ask my wife.lol
The truth is he isnt natural now, and hasnt been in a lonmg long time.
He couldnt cut at open shows, so now he is head hunting, natural shows just to win a $5 trophy.
Its a sad case.I cannot stand guys who go into natural shows, and claim to be natural.If you use anabolics, stay the fu#$3 off of natural stages.
Its not like people cant tell,lol.Whats funny is the suppliers of the competiors, are laughing there way to the bank.
Imagine going through life like one of these top natural,s who we all know who I am talking about.They live in canstant fear of being exposed, by there supplier, or a friend of a supplier.How do they look themselves in the mirror, how do they sleep at night.Knowing there life is one big lie????
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 02, 2011, 08:13:58 AM
GH-15, What is really sad, is Ron Haris, is probably going to create a thread over at the MD baord saying.Those guys over at getbig, actually think I use anabolics.Then he will follow up with, I must look pretty good for them to think my photo shopped pics look.At get big they are a bunch of haters,lol.I am natural, if you dont beleive me ask my wife.lol
The truth is he isnt natural now, and hasnt been in a lonmg long time.
He couldnt cut at open shows, so now he is head hunting, natural shows just to win a $5 trophy.
Its a sad case.I cannot stand guys who go into natural shows, and claim to be natural.If you use anabolics, stay the fu#$3 off of natural stages.
Its not like people cant tell,lol.Whats funny is the suppliers of the competiors, are laughing there way to the bank.
Imagine going through life like one of these top natural,s who we all know who I am talking about.They live in canstant fear of being exposed, by there supplier, or a friend of a supplier.How do they look themselves in the mirror, how do they sleep at night.Knowing there life is one big lie????
gh15 hates your guts......please stop kissing his ass as he doesn`t respond to you.

Harris did the 2011 NPC Team Universe,no other "natural" contests in many many years.

Is Team U really natural  ???

Get your facts straight.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 02, 2011, 09:40:18 AM
WES STFU, You are an idiot.Get your facts straight!!!
To do Team Universe you have to qualify, by placing at a local show.
Team Universe is a National show, which you can earn a pro card.
To do a National show you have to qualify!!!!!!
Ron Harris won the 2009 NPC Colonial Cup which was a Natural show.
He then did Team Universe, which is supposed to be another Natural show..
I know alot of competiors cheat in the TU but they shouldnt.They are liars and cheats.
Now I dont hate GH-15, I was busting his balls saying he wasnt a pro,MAYBE HE IS MAYBE HE ISNT ? but that was 3-4 years ago.I really dont care wether he hates me or likes me.I am totally neutral about the situation.
He seems to know his stuff, and helps other people out.He also exposes, liars and cheats, in a brutal fashion.So its kind of funny.
WAter under the bridge my friend
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 02, 2011, 09:45:24 AM
Alright,I apologize John,I forgot he did the Colonial Cup........but he did say he was drug free.....who knows.

Does anyone know if they test at the Team U ?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 02, 2011, 09:54:09 AM
The Team Universe used to be they poly graph tested everybody, but they used and old polygraph machine.The type that had the old needle, lol.
Then the Winner gets urine tested.
Funny thing is nobody ever failed, that I know of.How does that happen?
Trust me the ABA, and PNBA uses a computer generated poygraph test given by a guy who does work for the government.He pops people all the time.
Atleast 1-3 guys who fail, and get really really pissed, lol.
If a polygraph test is real, and the guy who is doing the testing is good you wont beat it, trust me.
Team Universe is suppsed to be a natural show,unfornatley alot of people enter it, dirty.You can tell the real naturals from the guys who are on.
Its a world of diffrence
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 02, 2011, 10:02:03 AM
Ronda is so desperate for attention that he wants a video workout with Genova... pretty appalling.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: StanZoLOL on November 02, 2011, 10:14:50 AM
You have to be off all aas for several years (5-7 I think) before you can compete in a Natty federation. 

Nah, some it's a lot less than that. Some also allow you to be on HRT. So you could juice to the gills for years on grams of stuff, then go straight onto HRT 100-200mg a week and compete as a natural. :D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Mawse on November 02, 2011, 12:10:02 PM
Harris has been lying for literally decades

this was actually him lying back in '98 about being a born again natural, lying about being stronger than ronnie and other funnies.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/underground_tap_mr_natural_visits_the_dark_side

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 02, 2011, 01:08:57 PM
The true Ron Harris
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 02, 2011, 03:30:50 PM
ohh, you must be that jealous asshat that goes around in the gym and talks shit about guys who are bigger and in shape, saying they are all steroids to make yourself feel better, while you finish up your curls and head home filling your face with cream filled donuts and burgers crying to yourself you wish you could be in better shape..

kindly go fuck off
1. eating donuts never makes me cry but looking in the mirror at my anked chunky body might. :'(
2. donuts are much better value then steroids.
3. you might consider anger management training for those bitter personality traits you now exhibit when posting on getbig.
4. I suggest you consider making prozac your drug of choice before you buy any more roids. Just sayin'  ;)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: MrBigandCut on November 02, 2011, 04:10:38 PM
Sorry Howard but your insulting our intelligence here! Most of us are experienced bodybuildes who have been around the block a few times! We are all grown men and if we want to follow anyone's advise thats up to us! You really havent shown us anything constructive as to why Gh-15 is not giving out sound advise on how bodybuilding works in the real world! Just starting this post with nothing to back it up just seems pointless and makes you look a little bit silly to be honest!  :P
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on November 02, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Sorry Howard but your insulting our intelligence here! Most of us are experienced bodybuildes who have been around the block a few times! We are all grown men and if we want to follow anyone's advise thats up to us! You really havent shown us anything constructive as to why Gh-15 is not giving out sound advise on how bodybuilding works in the real world! Just starting this post with nothing to back it up just seems pointless and makes you look a little bit silly to be honest!  :P


You only have 37 posts, so maybe you don't know this, but Howard is our village retard.

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 02, 2011, 06:15:29 PM
Harris has been lying for literally decades

this was actually him lying back in '98 about being a born again natural, lying about being stronger than ronnie and other funnies.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/underground_tap_mr_natural_visits_the_dark_side


so sad, he just has to settle for being a natural 200lb at 7%   ::)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: MrBigandCut on November 02, 2011, 06:42:15 PM
Ah only 37 posts but I have been listening in the wings for a very long time!  :)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on November 02, 2011, 06:48:24 PM
Ah only 37 posts but I have been listening in the wings for a very long time!  :)


anyways, no need to argue with Howard, the guy is a closet homo and the most delusional idiot on this site, he couldn't tell shit from chocolate if you dumped him in to the neck.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 02, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/V3oQB.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 02, 2011, 09:10:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/V3oQB.jpg)
Omg that's weird.   :o
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 02, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
Omg that's weird.   :o
;D

(http://i.imgur.com/ye7oV.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 02, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
;D

(http://i.imgur.com/ye7oV.jpg)
Look at the tail on that little boy.   ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 02, 2011, 09:14:11 PM
Look at the tail on that little boy.   ;D
psstt it's a turd  ;D  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/SiSM7.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: apply85 on November 02, 2011, 09:19:39 PM
^^ these women have to be british
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 02, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
psstt it's a turd  ;D  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/SiSM7.jpg)
I've got an animal print bikini, but I wear it to the beach.   :-\
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 02, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
If you smashed Ron Harris in the face 60 times with a ball peen hammer, the outcome would be a better looking Ron Harris.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 03, 2011, 04:17:19 AM
psstt it's a turd  ;D  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/SiSM7.jpg)

Both look debatable, that makes them good material for another WYHI episode
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 03, 2011, 04:21:07 AM
;D

(http://i.imgur.com/ye7oV.jpg)

Nothing weird about the way they dress. Mommy is getting some cash before they go shopping at Walmart

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos/random-photos
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: naturalbodybuilder on November 03, 2011, 05:44:34 AM
SECRET STACK A.K.A. GH15..   GH15 I TOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEVER READ MUSCUAR DEVELOPMENT NOBULL FORUM..?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: DK II on November 03, 2011, 05:47:31 AM
SECRET STACK A.K.A. GH15..   GH15 I TOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEVER READ MUSCUAR DEVELOPMENT NOBULL FORUM..?

(http://leakspinner.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/fukushima-meltdown.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 05:58:30 AM
SECRET STACK A.K.A. GH15..   GH15 I TOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEVER READ MUSCUAR DEVELOPMENT NOBULL FORUM..?
With a name like yours I bet you are Rin hErriS  :D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: supernick on November 03, 2011, 05:58:40 AM
SECRET STACK A.K.A. GH15..   GH15 I TOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEVER READ MUSCUAR DEVELOPMENT NOBULL FORUM..?
hi ron
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 03, 2011, 06:35:59 AM
SECRET STACK A.K.A. GH15..   GH15 I TOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEVER READ MUSCUAR DEVELOPMENT NOBULL FORUM..?

hi assbruise. bought a new keybard i see. good for you man...
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: el numero uno on November 03, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/V3oQB.jpg)

lmao
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 12:44:13 PM
SECRET STACK A.K.A. GH15..   GH15 I TOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEVER READ MUSCUAR DEVELOPMENT NOBULL FORUM..?

i dont ,, but some of the pms i get are abotu qupotes from there,,and my eyes go black from the nonesense i read,, ron heris is FILT,, he is disgrace for jews

just the lie about not using hgh ....its a serious serious problem in the head he has,, 205 lb on stage 5'8 45 year old....think about it!!

look around you in your local americano gymnasium,, look in the local 240lb 8% fella that is 5'8 th eone all your gymnasium look at as the star local bodybuuld...can he tell you he is not on hgh? would you believ him?

heris is filt ,, i wish him pre mature death as i said,, he use gh for many years,, MANY YEARS,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 03, 2011, 12:47:24 PM
i dont ,, but some of the pms i get are abotu qupotes from there,,and my eyes go black from the nonesense i read,, ron heris is FILT,, he is disgrace for jews

just the lie about not using hgh ....its a serious serious problem in the head he has,, 205 lb on stage 5'8 45 year old....think about it!!

look around you in your local americano gymnasium,, look in the local 240lb 8% fella that is 5'8 th eone all your gymnasium look at as the star local bodybuuld...can he tell you he is not on hgh? would you believ him?

heris is filt ,, i wish him pre mature death as i said,, he use gh for many years,, MANY YEARS,,

gh15 approved
DON`T HOLD BACK NOW,TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT THE GUY !!  ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 03, 2011, 01:31:04 PM
I dont have any personal issues with Ron, I just hate when people enter drug tested or natural shows when they are dirty.Its cheating, its the lowest form of cheating there is.Anybody who is on gear and beat a natural athlete, on any given day.Its a very unfair advantage.I dont know how these so called natural stars who do use gear, look themselves in the mirror everday.Its pathetic.
I dont care if you use gear or if your natural just be honest about it.Atleast the guys on gear are most of the time honest and say hey, I juice, so what.
True story, Delino Dixon who won the Muscle Mania World Championchips, in 1998, lost hs job at Ballys casino in Las Vegas, because he wanted to work at the Paris hotel as a 21 dealer.Same company but to transfer he had to pass a drug test.A wek after the Muscle Mania World he was terminated, for showing up positive.Yes, Ballys at the time tesed for steroids and recreationals drugs.They tested for everyting.I had a friend of mine who was a craps dealer at the time, not transer from Ballys to the Paris, because he was on a cycle at the time.Delino, used to compete at 198 lbs, then 2 years later, has 21" arms and competed at 230lbs.Telling everyone he was using alot of Andro stene,...Bullshit.I know the people who sold him test.
Imagine a guy 5'11" with small bones, weighing 230lbs on stage with 21" claming to be natural.
I seen Delin about 3 years ago, he is about 170lbs soaking wet now.Some natural athlete huh, lol.
By the way, Muscle Mania, does test there athletes, lol, randomly, lol.They only test 3 of the light weight novices, non of the open guys got tested.lol.Not Tito, Nt Jose, not any of the"Natural" stars
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Wiggs on November 03, 2011, 01:36:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/V3oQB.jpg)

FUCK :o :-X
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 01:59:45 PM
anyways, no need to argue with Howard, the guy is a closet homo and the most delusional idiot on this site, he couldn't tell shit from chocolate if you dumped him in to the neck.
Not bad on that one DK, I gotta admit being dipped in chocolate (NOT shit) to the neck would be pretty awesome.
I could eat my way out and add even more blubber to my chunky old frame.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:16:03 PM
Sorry Howard but your insulting our intelligence here! Most of us are experienced bodybuildes who have been around the block a few times! We are all grown men and if we want to follow anyone's advise thats up to us! You really havent shown us anything constructive as to why Gh-15 is not giving out sound advise on how bodybuilding works in the real world! Just starting this post with nothing to back it up just seems pointless and makes you look a little bit silly to be honest!  :P


1. I never said don't listen to anything GH15 posts. In fact, I was pretty clear that you may consider his advice if you want to max out via the drugged route of bodybuilding.

2. Guys that want to go pro or get as massive by any means possible should listen to the advice of experienced drug gurus, no question .

3. My whole issue is  drugs are NOT a requirement to be a decent, regional bodybuilder.
For example I am a tad over 5'9" at 5' 9.5 inches tall and weighed a lean 175 lbs in 10th grade!
I was barely 16 and didn't lift wts or even know a thing about bodybuilding. I played football and ran track.
When I got to college I finally lifted . I trained for just over year and did my first show in 1978. I was  super lean around 182 lbs and barely knew what steroids even were. Today I couldn't be 170 lbs unless I cut off limbs or straved myself to death.
I have seem a number of NATURAL 5'5"- 5'7" middle wts look super ripped in the 170's lbs and 5'9" - 5'11" Lt hvys in the 190's ripped.

GH15 claims a lean 6% natty at 5'11" can't be over 170 lbs. That is absurd!
Think about all the football players and wrestlers that don't juice but could be around 6-7% and would weigh well over 170 lbs without any trouble. I'm just an avg bodybuilder and I exceeded his so called naurtal limits when I was a teenager and barely lifted.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:20:59 PM
I'm no gh fan, but Ron Harris is motherf*cking liar, and a total disgrace.
..and GH15 writes for what publication again? Tell because I forgot?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 02:22:45 PM
..and GH15 writes for what publication again? Tell because I forgot?
Oh fuck off - so you agree with the lies then  ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:23:13 PM
he is here,, heris is here reding every word,,like all the rest of that filt group of liars,,when heris understnd that the hate tward him is due to his consistant lies then he maybe wil get somewhere in bodybuild,, he didnt get anywhere in bodybuuild because everyone EVRYONE catched up to his lies,,

that 45 year old mental case not only lie about the doses he take but he atual lie about the products! ,, he lie about other fellas that make money out of bodybuild inorder to sell illusion to bunch of kidos around the world, those kidos make his salary ,, those kidos put a dress on his whores body,,those kidos put bread on his table,,

he is trenbolona ace addict! he uses human growth hormone,, and still! cant get to be more than a decent gym rat level,, so he go to compete natural ,, why? because his genetic repond suck! he didnt discover gh in the right time,, trenbolona ace can that far if you start as complete shit ...so he owes his placing and his work to the drug trenbolona ace,, to the drug testosterona and to the drug hgh

what is there to say about heris that have not been said,, he is attention moneky,, he is very arogent yet doesnt hav ethe physiqe to be able to walk around arogant ,, very sub average physiqe,, he just doesnt have what it take to be top npc bodybuild..not ifbb pro but top npc! ,,his abdominal suck because he alway rely on drugs to improve the fucked up physiqe he has,, the reason he look like unmatched pieces nwo days is because unlike his lies! he gave up and went to the hormone side all hand and feet in ,, he is living on trenbolona ace ,, he use growth hormone,, he use testosterona  he doing what any bodybuild does and live to lie about it and write balonie to many fellas that interes in bodybuild,, those fellas when starting actualy believ his balonie and fall for it ,,

he is disgrace to the jew people ,, he is disgrace to son and mother relashion,, he is disgrace to his own family ,, he should go to senigog and put good donation if he has any money,, and sit ther eand talk to rabi shmuel ,,open his filt heart ,,and maybe become an ortodox jew,,he is the ugly ugly pictur behind bodybuild,, i despize this fella

gh15 approved
...and what publication do your write for  Gh15?
" BB myths and ghosts monthly"
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:24:19 PM
no my friend,, he already changed,, he took very very low level physiqe and got it to look decent,, this is due to abuse of trenbolona and usage of hgh,, he cant improve,, he maxed ,, his genetic respond is just ,,well lets call it low,,
gh15 approved
at least he has a real job in bodybuilding, posted a real picture of his actual physique and is a real person not some internet myth like you.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
corect,, no receptor nothing,, he just climb into the right products too late,, he found the gh too late,, everything he does is too late,, + bad genetic respond...still enough to go on team universe ,, lie ,, and get a trophe

gh15 approved
and you can prove you won what?
Don't waste my time with bullshit about how you can't say who you really are crap.
Either man up and prove who and what you are or stfu .
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:28:53 PM
GH-15, What is really sad, is Ron Haris, is probably going to create a thread over at the MD baord saying.Those guys over at getbig, actually think I use anabolics.Then he will follow up with, I must look pretty good for them to think my photo shopped pics look.At get big they are a bunch of haters,lol.I am natural, if you dont beleive me ask my wife.lol
The truth is he isnt natural now, and hasnt been in a lonmg long time.
He couldnt cut at open shows, so now he is head hunting, natural shows just to win a $5 trophy.
Its a sad case.I cannot stand guys who go into natural shows, and claim to be natural.If you use anabolics, stay the fu#$3 off of natural stages.
Its not like people cant tell,lol.Whats funny is the suppliers of the competiors, are laughing there way to the bank.
Imagine going through life like one of these top natural,s who we all know who I am talking about.They live in canstant fear of being exposed, by there supplier, or a friend of a supplier.How do they look themselves in the mirror, how do they sleep at night.Knowing there life is one big lie????
He openly admits he used BB drugs for a while and went off long enough to be clean for 1 yr to meet the NPC team Universe rules on drugs.
How is that being a liar or a cheat?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 02:29:56 PM
...and what publication do your write for  Gh15?
" BB myths and ghosts monthly"
Dude you are an idiot , he could be the richest guy in the world but if he got rich off twisting the truth and was deceitful he would be a lying cunt, he is so full of shit every time you flick a page in that grotty mag it smells like the khazi after an all night on the piss dump.

Look what is in those said pages to , ads for supplements all using guys and girls enhanced on drugs, this is why he lies to promote the snake oil shite, you dont look like those models without lots of drugs but you will never hear that bullshitting ferret admit to this.

So the gullible fork out funds for rubbish thinking it will help them look like what the ads show them.. its a fraud and herris is in a position to promote the truth , he choses to line he grimey mits instead and downplay how huge drugs are, without drugs there is NO BODYBUILDING - This is FACT!!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
WES STFU, You are an idiot.Get your facts straight!!!
To do Team Universe you have to qualify, by placing at a local show.
Team Universe is a National show, which you can earn a pro card.
To do a National show you have to qualify!!!!!!
Ron Harris won the 2009 NPC Colonial Cup which was a Natural show.
He then did Team Universe, which is supposed to be another Natural show..
I know alot of competiors cheat in the TU but they shouldnt.They are liars and cheats.
Now I dont hate GH-15, I was busting his balls saying he wasnt a pro,MAYBE HE IS MAYBE HE ISNT ? but that was 3-4 years ago.I really dont care wether he hates me or likes me.I am totally neutral about the situation.
He seems to know his stuff, and helps other people out.He also exposes, liars and cheats, in a brutal fashion.So its kind of funny.
WAter under the bridge my friend
You guys are missing the point. The actual rules require you to be drug free for only 1 year. That's it.
The only qualification for the NPC team U is that you had to compete in any prior NPC contest. That's it.
Most of don't know the actual rules.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:32:05 PM
Oh fuck off - so you agree with the lies then  ::)
Who do you or Gh15 get paid to write for? Just curious?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 02:32:56 PM
Who do you or Gh15 get paid to write for? Just curious?
WE TELL THE TRUTH AND ARE HONEST , YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT MIND PEOPLE BEING LIED TO  ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 02:34:11 PM
forest,,

LIEING LEAD TO NO WHERE,, the reason ron heris is desprize and laughed at by majority of bodybuuld cult is his constant lies,, he is as i say disgrace for jews and he is prime jew for mother is jew!,, he is a mid 40 fella that been to any drug on the book,, same as you are 50 something fella that been to most drugs in the book ,, the facgt neither of you got anywherre doesnt mean you need to lie about it!

if you were so natural bound you would not be on hrt ,, no gel no nothing no inject no nothing,, you would let nature take its coure like million of othr males around the world,, but no! you would shoot yourself in the head if you didnt see your fat 19 inch arms in the mirror ...and with out that testosterona you would see 16 inch fat arms in that mirror!,, so...you take testosterona!

you are a liar,, it is cult of liars,, you are shame ,, he is 100 times worse because he represent publication and when offered to be on muscular develop i did not agree MAINLY because of that,, i hate liars,, no money will buy me to work with liar

period

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 02:37:17 PM
He openly admits he used BB drugs for a while and went off long enough to be clean for 1 yr to meet the NPC team Universe rules on drugs.
How is that being a liar or a cheat?

when you go off from drugs you can not be on stage 200 anything in low singles anything anymore! you lose it and lose it fast,, you can be 170lb 6% ....175 lb 6% clean  and in his heigth dount it ,, he would be clean 168lb 6% on stage,,and look like mini me of his enhanced mini mi self

he is a liar,, he use everything ,, he use hgh ,, he use trenboloona,, he use testosterona,, he use equipona,, he use fat burners,, he use anti aromataze research prpducts,, he use everything and anything,, he is filt,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:37:59 PM
Dude you are an idiot , he could be the richest guy in the world but if he got rich off twisting the truth and was deceitful he would be a lying cunt, he is so full of shit every time you flick a page in that grotty mag it smells like the khazi after an all night on the piss dump.

Look what is in those said pages to , ads for supplements all using guys and girls enhanced on drugs, this is why he lies to promote the snake oil shite, you dont look like those models without lots of drugs but you will never hear that bullshitting ferret admit to this.

So the gullible fork out funds for rubbish thinking it will help them look like what the ads show them.. its a fraud and herris is in a position to promote the truth , he choses to line he grimey mits instead and downplay how huge drugs are, without drugs there is NO BODYBUILDING - This is FACT!!
Yes and I could be some annonymous internet hero that claims to have monkeys flying out my ass each weekend.
If someone believes me it becomes an internet "fact" hahahaha.
Unless they have an actual indentity  you have no way to verify who or what they are, so they can pull any info out there ass. If some idiots want to belive Gh15 they take it on faith.
If you don't agree with Ron Harris at least you know who he is and can verify his facts. THat is my point.
Ron Harris =  real bodybuilding journalist who we know got 2nd at the recent Team U , fact.
GH15= unknown internet forum blogger with some interesting ideas. That's it.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 02:38:20 PM
Dude you are an idiot , he could be the richest guy in the world but if he got rich off twisting the truth and was deceitful he would be a lying cunt, he is so full of shit every time you flick a page in that grotty mag it smells like the khazi after an all night on the piss dump.

Look what is in those said pages to , ads for supplements all using guys and girls enhanced on drugs, this is why he lies to promote the snake oil shite, you dont look like those models without lots of drugs but you will never hear that bullshitting ferret admit to this.

So the gullible fork out funds for rubbish thinking it will help them look like what the ads show them.. its a fraud and herris is in a position to promote the truth , he choses to line he grimey mits instead and downplay how huge drugs are, without drugs there is NO BODYBUILDING - This is FACT!!

heirs rich? lol he barley closes the month ,, with out the muscular salary he = homeless

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:41:16 PM
when you go off from drugs you can not be on stage 200 anything in low singles anything anymore! you lose it and lose it fast,, you can be 170lb 6% ....175 lb 6% clean  and in his heigth dount it ,, he would be clean 168lb 6% on stage,,and look like mini me of his enhanced mini mi self

he is a liar,, he use everything ,, he use hgh ,, he use trenboloona,, he use testosterona,, he use equipona,, he use fat burners,, he use anti aromataze research prpducts,, he use everything and anything,, he is filt,,

gh15 approved
When I was in high school playing football in the 1970's I didn't lift wts. I was a really lean 175lbs at 5' 9" in the 10th grade.
I ddn't even lift wts or know what steroids were you idiot.
I know plenty of guys that are not even serious bodybuilders that exceed your silly natural ht/wt limits at lean % fat.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:42:45 PM
WE TELL THE TRUTH AND ARE HONEST , YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT MIND PEOPLE BEING LIED TO  ::)
LOL Gh15 is so honest he won't even say who he is hahahaha. Yeah, real open and honest THAT guy hahaha.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: MAXX on November 03, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/V3oQB.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mxlB8_3uHXc/R7Qy80wOcjI/AAAAAAAAA6M/5nyTk2NL2ec/s400/will-ferrell-kmart.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 02:44:42 PM
Yes and I could be some annonymous internet hero that claims to have monkeys flying out my ass each weekend.
If someone believes me it becomes an internet "fact" hahahaha.
Unless they have an actual indentity  you have no way to verify who or what they are, so they can pull any info out there ass. If some idiots want to belive Gh15 they take it on faith.
If you don't agree with Ron Harris at least you know who he is and can verify his facts. THat is my point.
Ron Harris =  real bodybuilding journalist who we know got 2nd at the recent Team U , fact.
GH15= unknown internet forum blogger with some interesting ideas. That's it.
Are you really this stupid or is it an act  ??? It doesnt matter who is saying this about herris the truth is he is a dirty liar , it could be a bum out in the street saying it the facts are its truth.

So because he is a real bodybuilding journalist who we know got 2nd at the recent Team U it's ok to promote deceit and lies is it ? god you are a phoney  >:(
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
When I was in high school playing football in the 1970's I didn't lift wts. I was a really lean 175lbs at 5' 9" in the 10th grade.
I ddn't even lift wts or know what steroids were you idiot.
I know plenty of guys that are not even serious bodybuilders that exceed your silly natural ht/wt limits at lean % fat.

i saw your physiqe forest ,, you were 175lb 12-15% like the average retard in frat house,,do you think its realy lean? you are goolible and a true idiot ,,sometime i think you pretend but no you are true idiot

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 02:46:20 PM
LOL Gh15 is so honest he won't even say who he is hahahaha. Yeah, real open and honest THAT guy hahaha.
Again are you an inbecile ? he talks truth , you dont need to know who he is to see it's true , its basic common sense that shows he is truthfull yet this seems lacking with you  ::)

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
terry brodshaw the steelers player in the 70s lol he was on so much drugs and yet all the stupid americanos said he ws natural lol

forest you live a lie!,, but you atleast dont have someone who read you ,, i have more fellas who read me than anyone on internet history and on any magazine history ,, the blackman fella offered gh15 exclusive coloumn do you get this? faceless gh15....exclusive as long as i keep my mouth shut! and let the others in the mag do their thing,, WELL I DID NOT AGREE!,, i coulldnt giv ea flying rat ass about anything unless its the real truth about bodybulding,,

heris eventhough not gh15 celebrity status ...is a magazine writer and! he fail those bodybuild year after years for many years,, he should be outlawed ,, he should be isolated,, and he should be ashamed! ashemed to being one of the jew people ,, he is filt,, by the way only reason he is a writer in muscular devbelop is because! he is jew because of his jew mother...no other reason ,, trust me on that no other reason!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:50:25 PM
i saw your physiqe forest ,, you were 175lb 12-15% like the average retard in frat house,,do you think its realy lean? you are goolible and a true idiot ,,sometime i think you pretend but no you are true idiot

gh15 approved

Not a bad zinger there GH15.  ;)
Your drug posts and interesting and entertaining but your views on woman and natural bodybulding are pretty dumb, sorry.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 02:52:33 PM
Again are you an inbecile ? he talks truth , you dont need to know who he is to see it's true , its basic common sense that shows he is truthfull yet this seems lacking with you  ::)


I never said his drug cycle info was wrong. I admit that isn't my area anyway.
I know for a fact his natural limit crap is silly and 100% wrong.
GH15 may know about BB drug stuff but he doesn't know shit about natural bodybuilding , sorry he doesn't.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: biff on November 03, 2011, 03:04:01 PM
You guys are missing the point. The actual rules require you to be drug free for only 1 year. That's it.
The only qualification for the NPC team U is that you had to compete in any prior NPC contest. That's it.
Most of don't know the actual rules.

so perhaps this is how ron harris justifies his 'natural' claims. if such and such a contest says "you must be clean 12 months" he can claim natural, because he met their criteria - regardless if he was on the kitchen sink before hand.

the semantics game is something lot of liars and connivers use.

but howard is protecting his fragile psyche. he undoubtedly hero-worshiped bbers as a youth, and has been in denial since learning the real truth of how they look like they do, and what kind of people m,any of them are. he will say he knows about the drug side, but downplay it as much as possible, to maintain his delusions. in many ways like a pro-wrestling fan that cant get past the charcaters on the tv, while knowing and ignoring that its just a tv show.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 03, 2011, 03:08:12 PM
Summary: Gh15 does NOT like Ron Harris.


I think it's fairly evident that he doesn't care much more for Howie.



Gh...


Do you like me? (j/k)



I'm a gimmick (just in case you didn't know)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 03, 2011, 03:12:43 PM
I remember a Ron Harris article from a few years back, where he talks about using steroids.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 03, 2011, 03:17:24 PM
I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 03, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
I remember a Ron Harris article from a few years back, where he talks about using steroids.


So did that Hansen dude that now claims all natty. I think his name is John Hansen. He claimed that he always felt he had an "edge" on the other competitors b/c he believed that he had built and retained muscle that he would NOT have had if he had been a natty his whole life.

I still think that subject is highly controversial.


I really do think that if you have worked out naturally for many years and built good solid muscle fiber, and then you do a long subtle cycle and make substantial gains and taper down very slowly, keep your sex drive high (as if you were "on") ~ and keep lifting as if you were "on" ~ I am fairly certain that in the end you will be bigger than if you had remained natural.

I also believe that you will have worked out more intensely than if you were natural and possibly made some good solid, lasting gains, but as I said ~ it's a highly debated topic.


If I were an all natural competitor, I would not consider it an even playing field to compete against one who had been a steroid user...


but that's just meep meep.... your ass.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
1. I never said don't listen to anything GH15 posts. In fact, I was pretty clear that you may consider his advice if you want to max out via the drugged route of bodybuilding.

2. Guys that want to go pro or get as massive by any means possible should listen to the advice of experienced drug gurus, no question .

3. My whole issue is  drugs are NOT a requirement to be a decent, regional bodybuilder.
For example I am a tad over 5'9" at 5' 9.5 inches tall and weighed a lean 175 lbs in 10th grade!
I was barely 16 and didn't lift wts or even know a thing about bodybuilding. I played football and ran track.
When I got to college I finally lifted . I trained for just over year and did my first show in 1978. I was  super lean around 182 lbs and barely knew what steroids even were. Today I couldn't be 170 lbs unless I cut off limbs or straved myself to death.
I have seem a number of NATURAL 5'5"- 5'7" middle wts look super ripped in the 170's lbs and 5'9" - 5'11" Lt hvys in the 190's ripped.

GH15 claims a lean 6% natty at 5'11" can't be over 170 lbs. That is absurd!
Think about all the football players and wrestlers that don't juice but could be around 6-7% and would weigh well over 170 lbs without any trouble. I'm just an avg bodybuilder and I exceeded his so called naurtal limits when I was a teenager and barely lifted.

5'10! make sure you read bible AGAIN,, 5'10 not 5'11 this is 7lb per inch forest!! this is big diff,,

5'10 170 6% is A VERY VERY VERY HIGHLY VERY VERY HIGHLY SUPERB GENETIC NATURAL ,, most hardly make it to 160lb

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 03, 2011, 03:29:46 PM

So did that Hansen dude that now claims all natty. I think his name is John Hansen. He claimed that he always felt he had an "edge" on the other competitors b/c he believed that he had built and retained muscle that he would NOT have had if he had been a natty his whole life.

I still think that subject is highly controversial.


I really do think that if you have worked out naturally for many years and built good solid muscle fiber, and then you do a long subtle cycle and make substantial gains and taper down very slowly, keep your sex drive high (as if you were "on") ~ and keep lifting as if you were "on" ~ I am fairly certain that in the end you will be bigger than if you had remained natural.

I also believe that you will have worked out more intensely than if you were natural and possibly made some good solid, lasting gains, but as I said ~ it's a highly debated topic.


If I were an all natural competitor, I would not consider it an even playing field to compete against one who had been a steroid user...


but that's just meep meep.... your ass.

So much of this comes down to "natural" versus "clean".  Maybe Harris is just claiming to be "clean", which of course should be met with a sharp grilling as to what he has used and when, at least if he is competing.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 03, 2011, 03:36:54 PM
I have to agree with GH-15 on this subject.I cannot stand when a guy on drugs enters a natural show.Its a bunch of bull shit.
I dont cant if you use gear, or dont use gear.But if you use gear, dont enter drug tested shows.Its a very unfair advantage.Only a coward would compete against natural guys, while using anabolics.Its like brining a gun to a knife fight.
Ron,is a decent writer, how ever, his physique is horrid, even on juice.
If I looked that bad on juice after 30 years of training I might take up another sport like cycling or running.Bodybuilding is not in his cards.
If you see him in person he looks about 170-175lbs tops.
If I didnt know him and saw him walking down the street I would think he might work out at his house 3-4 times a week.I call them back yard benchers ..I would never beleive he used gear.170lbs and 15 1/2" arms on gear ,its time to pull the gun out and shoot yourself, in the head.Make sure you dont miss, lol

The problem is quite simple.1) poor genetics 2) poor responder, plus he wore out his receptors by not coming off 3) He uses weight that is to heavy for him so he can impress people in his online videos.Its a fu#$# mess.
So you have a man with bad shape, with fried receptors, and poor form shaping his poor shaped body even worse then it already is.He uses terrible form.He uses strictly momentum to move the weight.
If you have poor genetics-poor shape, you need to pay attention to how you train.
How you train is how you look.All the drugs in the world will not fix, somebody is they arent using full range of montion and cheating to lift the weight.When I say cheating I mean only momentum, not the muscle to lift the weight
Am I right GH-15

GH-15,I think pro body builders  think 2 things about him 1) He is a joke, so they give him there left overs of what didnt work or they dont want.2) They dont respect him because they know he is using gear while doing natural shows.
I know my my share of pro bodybuilders, and they dont like people who lie, or head hunt.When I mean by head hunting go into tested shows dirty.
I bet the people who supply him give him the stuff they dont want, because if he cries, they can just blow the whistle on him.
I think if he was on decent gear he wouldnt look god, but not as bad as he does .Granted his receptors are shot, but dam.

GH-15, What is really sad, is Ron Haris, is probably going to create a thread over at the MD baord saying.Those guys over at getbig, actually think I use anabolics.Then he will follow up with, I must look pretty good for them to think my photo shopped pics look.At get big they are a bunch of haters,lol.I am natural, if you dont beleive me ask my wife.lol
The truth is he isnt natural now, and hasnt been in a lonmg long time.
He couldnt cut at open shows, so now he is head hunting, natural shows just to win a $5 trophy.
Its a sad case.I cannot stand guys who go into natural shows, and claim to be natural.If you use anabolics, stay the fu#$3 off of natural stages.
Its not like people cant tell,lol.Whats funny is the suppliers of the competiors, are laughing there way to the bank.
Imagine going through life like one of these top natural,s who we all know who I am talking about.They live in canstant fear of being exposed, by there supplier, or a friend of a supplier.How do they look themselves in the mirror, how do they sleep at night.Knowing there life is one big lie????

The Team Universe used to be they poly graph tested everybody, but they used and old polygraph machine.The type that had the old needle, lol.
Then the Winner gets urine tested.
Funny thing is nobody ever failed, that I know of.How does that happen?
Trust me the ABA, and PNBA uses a computer generated poygraph test given by a guy who does work for the government.He pops people all the time.
Atleast 1-3 guys who fail, and get really really pissed, lol.
If a polygraph test is real, and the guy who is doing the testing is good you wont beat it, trust me.
Team Universe is suppsed to be a natural show,unfornatley alot of people enter it, dirty.You can tell the real naturals from the guys who are on.
Its a world of diffrence


I dont have any personal issues with Ron, I just hate when people enter drug tested or natural shows when they are dirty.Its cheating, its the lowest form of cheating there is.Anybody who is on gear and beat a natural athlete, on any given day.Its a very unfair advantage.I dont know how these so called natural stars who do use gear, look themselves in the mirror everday.Its pathetic.
I dont care if you use gear or if your natural just be honest about it.Atleast the guys on gear are most of the time honest and say hey, I juice, so what.
True story, Delino Dixon who won the Muscle Mania World Championchips, in 1998, lost hs job at Ballys casino in Las Vegas, because he wanted to work at the Paris hotel as a 21 dealer.Same company but to transfer he had to pass a drug test.A wek after the Muscle Mania World he was terminated, for showing up positive.Yes, Ballys at the time tesed for steroids and recreationals drugs.They tested for everyting.I had a friend of mine who was a craps dealer at the time, not transer from Ballys to the Paris, because he was on a cycle at the time.Delino, used to compete at 198 lbs, then 2 years later, has 21" arms and competed at 230lbs.Telling everyone he was using alot of Andro stene,...Bullshit.I know the people who sold him test.
Imagine a guy 5'11" with small bones, weighing 230lbs on stage with 21" claming to be natural.
I seen Delin about 3 years ago, he is about 170lbs soaking wet now.Some natural athlete huh, lol.
By the way, Muscle Mania, does test there athletes, lol, randomly, lol.They only test 3 of the light weight novices, non of the open guys got tested.lol.Not Tito, Nt Jose, not any of the"Natural" stars

I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.


(http://1-2knockout.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5505fc4968834010536e09336970b-800wi)

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 03, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.

All those cunts you mention are on a huge amount of drugs yet this is a natty show ?  ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: wes on November 03, 2011, 03:51:18 PM
All those cunts you mention are on a huge amount of drugs yet this is a natty show ?  ::)
Exactly........not tested IMO.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 03, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
This guy always claims *natural* ~

It may be P.S'd, but I didn't touch it.

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb338/sammyjohnston/chrisfaildo.jpg)


This does NOT look like a natty physique to me. Doesn't he compete in polygraph tested events also? (Chris Faildo)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
so perhaps this is how ron harris justifies his 'natural' claims. if such and such a contest says "you must be clean 12 months" he can claim natural, because he met their criteria - regardless if he was on the kitchen sink before hand.

the semantics game is something lot of liars and connivers use.

but howard is protecting his fragile psyche. he undoubtedly hero-worshiped bbers as a youth, and has been in denial since learning the real truth of how they look like they do, and what kind of people m,any of them are. he will say he knows about the drug side, but downplay it as much as possible, to maintain his delusions. in many ways like a pro-wrestling fan that cant get past the charcaters on the tv, while knowing and ignoring that its just a tv show.
Ron , me and some others simply state what the rules are for any particular drug tested contest or organization.
If we meet the criteria to compete then you obey their rules. Pretty simple concept.

FYI, I barely knew what a bodybuilder was when I was kid. I didn't start lifting wts until I was 18 in college.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.


For the 1099th time, the NPC team Universe is NOT lifestime drug free or 100% natural contest.
The rules simply state you must be off steroids and GH for 1 yr prior to the show. Ron admits he took steroids  at various times over the years.
He went off any banned Team U drugs for at least 1 yr and competed in the Team U.Where exactly is the lie in that?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Stavios on November 03, 2011, 04:51:50 PM
For the 1099th time, the NPC team Universe is NOT lifestime drug free or 100% natural contest.
The rules simply state you must be off steroids and GH for 1 yr prior to the show. Ron admits he took steroids  at various times over the years.
He went off any banned Team U drugs for at least 1 yr and competed in the Team U.Where exactly is the lie in that?

Ron says he is natural (he is not)
he said he truly believed Jose Raymond was natural (he is not)

he said another bullshit not long ago but I don't remember what it was
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: tendonitis on November 03, 2011, 04:54:49 PM
Ron says he is natural (he is not)
he said he truly believed Jose Raymond was natural (he is not)

he said another bullshit not long ago but I don't remember what it was

He also believes Dorian's and Liar Priest's claims of ridiculously small cycles.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 04:55:19 PM
terry brodshaw the steelers player in the 70s lol he was on so much drugs and yet all the stupid americanos said he ws natural lol

forest you live a lie!,, but you atleast dont have someone who read you ,, i have more fellas who read me than anyone on internet history and on any magazine history ,, the blackman fella offered gh15 exclusive coloumn do you get this? faceless gh15....exclusive as long as i keep my mouth shut! and let the others in the mag do their thing,, WELL I DID NOT AGREE!,, i coulldnt giv ea flying rat ass about anything unless its the real truth about bodybulding,,

heris eventhough not gh15 celebrity status ...is a magazine writer and! he fail those bodybuild year after years for many years,, he should be outlawed ,, he should be isolated,, and he should be ashamed! ashemed to being one of the jew people ,, he is filt,, by the way only reason he is a writer in muscular devbelop is because! he is jew because of his jew mother...no other reason ,, trust me on that no other reason!

gh15 approved
Ron Harris is w ell know journalist within bodybuilding circles. Gh15 is an unknown  mystery poster on various  internet forums.
One position pays a salary and is an actual career. One is for  bloggers who don't get paid. Guess which one you are?
FYI< Steve Blechman , Publisher of MD doesn't even know or care about who or what Gh15 is or in what you write.
MD never offered you a job and you are delusional.

GH15 , " a legend ...in his own mind"  ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Galvatron on November 03, 2011, 04:55:42 PM
LIARS.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Wiggs on November 03, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
The fucking midget is full of shit...I listen to nothing he says.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
For the 1099th time, the NPC team Universe is NOT lifestime drug free or 100% natural contest.
The rules simply state you must be off steroids and GH for 1 yr prior to the show. Ron admits he took steroids  at various times over the years.
He went off any banned Team U drugs for at least 1 yr and competed in the Team U.Where exactly is the lie in that?

forest ,, let me ask you something ok ? but i want you to clear your head and take distance from the morons surounding you ,,

HOW DO YOU THINK WE BODYBUILDERS GET TO BE SO 3 DIMENTIONAL AND CAN BE 200LB IN SINGLE DIGIT AT 5'8? HOW?? ARE WE SO GENETICALY GIFTED THAT WE SURPASS ARNOLD THAT HAD THE BEST FRAME AND MUSCLE SHAPE ANY BODYBUILD CAN PRAY FOR? THINK FOR A SECOND ...WHAT MAKE US BE ABLE TO WALK 5'8 210 SHREDDED? WHAT?

3 LETTERS MY FRIEND

H G H

IT IS THE BEGGINING THE MIDDLE AND THE END OF A BODYBUILDER,,

HGH IS THE REASON RON HERIS CAN EVEN SEE THE NUMBER 190LB IN SINGLE DIGIT ON SCALE,, HGH IS THE REASON YOU CAN GROW LEAN!! HGH IS THE REASON KEVIN COULD GROW INTO A SHOW ,, HGH IS THE REASON PHILSULINA GROW INTO A SHOW,, HGH IS THE REASON I BECAMSE HUGE,, HGH IS THE REASON THE LOCAL COMPETITOR LOOK ONE MONTH LIKE WHATEVER AND THE MONTH AFTER LIKE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEN TO YOU CANT STOP LOOKIN AT YOU FROM THE SIDE MIRROR TYPE OF LOOK ,,,

DIMENTIONS FRIEND,, DIMENTIONS!! HGH ADDS DIMENTION IT REBORN YOU AS A HUMAN ,, IT CREATES MORE FIBERS MAKE YOU BIGGER LARGERRRRR LARGEEEER FINALY YOU ARE NOT SOME CHEETA FINALLY YOU BECOME A FULL GROWN T I G E R ,,

HGH IS THE REASON HERIS CAN GO ON TEAM UNIVERSE OR ANY COMPETITION ,, HGH IS THE REASON RAYMOND CAN EVEN TOUCH 180LB SHREDDED ! HGH IS THE REASON YOU HAVE FELLAS WHO NEVER MEANT TO BE BODYBUILD THAT WYPE THE FLOOR WITH FELLAS WITH BESTEST GENETIC AROUND

HGH IS THE FOUNTAIN OF BODYBUILDING,, HGH IS THE REASON HERIS CAN SAY THE NUMBER 205LB 6%....ITS HGH! WITH OUT IT RON HERIS WOULD SAY THE NUMBER 183LB 6% DO YOU THINK ANYONE WOULD LOOK AT HIS SORRY ASS WITH 180LB 6% ?  AND WITH AGE ITS HARDER AND HARDER WITH OUT HGH...

YOU ALL KEEP ASKIGN ME HOW COME HOW COME BODYBUILD TODAY GET TO ITS BEST DAYS AT AGE 35....HOW?? GOD DAMN HGH THATS HOW! DO YOU THINK ANY BODYBUILD WOULD EVEN LOOK AT WEIGHTS PAST 35 WITH OUT HGH? COMPETETIVE THAT IS ,, DO YOU THINK ANY GYM RAT BODYBUILD THAT INTO LOOKING LIKE A SERIOUS BODYBUILD WOULD LOOK AT WEIGHTS WITH OUT HGH PAST 40?

YOU GOT TO BE NUTS NUTS! TO DO BODYBUILD WITH OUT GH NOW DAY ,, NUTS! HGH CHANGES YOU TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT FROM 40 YEAR OLD YOU BECOME 18 YEAR OLD IN  L E S S THAN 7 DAYS!

YOU HEAR ME RIGHT FROM 48 TO 18 IN LESS THAN 7 DAYS ,, IN ALL ASPECTS,, YOU BECOME INVINSIBLE ,, ONLY THE ONES WHO ARE ON HGH AND ON LEGIT HGH KNOW WHAT GH15 IS TALKING ABOUT,,

HGH IS THE MOST THE MOST! IMPORTANT DISCOVERY IN MODERN BODYBUILD CIRCA 1980 AND ON ,,BEFORE THAT YOU WERE GONE BY 30...AFTER THAT YOU GO AND GO AND GO AND GO YOU CAN COMPETE EVEN AT 60 AND THEY DO !

HGH IS EVERYTHING ,, AND HERIS LIES! HE LIES REPETEDLY ABOUT HIS USE OF THIS HORMONE,, FORGET ABOUT THE STEROID LIES ...HE LIES ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HORMONES,, HE IS A LIAR! WHY? BECAUSE HIS GENETIC RESPOND SUCK ,, BECAUSE HE TRY TO FOOL THE ONES WHO ARE NOT DESERVED TO BE FULLED ,, THE IRON BROTHERS! THIS IS A SIN! HE IS HATED FOR THAT BY MANY MANY CULT MEMBERS

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 07:04:19 PM
This guy always claims *natural* ~

It may be P.S'd, but I didn't touch it.

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb338/sammyjohnston/chrisfaildo.jpg)


This does NOT look like a natty physique to me. Doesn't he compete in polygraph tested events also? (Chris Faildo)

natty? this is a fella on hgh consistant in blood all year long take out few weeks prior to competition ,, this is hgh addict ,, its all in trenbolona and hgh i keep telling you this fellas

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 03, 2011, 07:04:35 PM
FYI< Steve Blechman , Publisher of MD doesn't even know or care about who or what Gh15 is or in what you write.
MD never offered you a job and you are delusional.

......and how sure are you of that? i will bet you are simply going off "what ron said".

that this was steves reply to ron, right?

"ron said so"  ::)

"FYI"  ::)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 07:08:42 PM
Ron Harris is w ell know journalist within bodybuilding circles. Gh15 is an unknown  mystery poster on various  internet forums.
One position pays a salary and is an actual career. One is for  bloggers who don't get paid. Guess which one you are?
FYI< Steve Blechman , Publisher of MD doesn't even know or care about who or what Gh15 is or in what you write.
MD never offered you a job and you are delusional.

GH15 , " a legend ...in his own mind"  ::)

thats what bleckman tell you! he know exactly who i am ! i swore to get ron heris off bodybuilld just remmeber that,, muscular develop offered gh15 a big salry column which i refused to!,, offered it few times not once! few times,, i will never ever stand for the filt lies this magazine stand for ,, it pissed them off ,, but the offer was there,,

forest you are sick in the head ,, go seek help,, i personaly think you have agenda i dont knwo what it is yet...but again there are new elfs penetrating muscular develp every day ,, all mine ,, i wil get down to it when i have time to deal with muscular develop ,, i want some fo the fellas there out! they disturbe me

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 03, 2011, 07:12:37 PM
where's benchmaster?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: cross-of-iron on November 03, 2011, 07:15:33 PM
where's benchmaster?

Where's croatch?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
thats what bleckman tell you! he know exactly who i am ! i swore to get ron heris off bodybuilld just remmeber that,, muscular develop offered gh15 a big salry column which i refused to!,, offered it few times not once! few times,, i will never ever stand for the filt lies this magazine stand for ,, it pissed them off ,, but the offer was there,,

forest you are sick in the head ,, go seek help,, i personaly think you have agenda i dont knwo what it is yet...but again there are new elfs penetrating muscular develp every day ,, all mine ,, i wil get down to it when i have time to deal with muscular develop ,, i want some fo the fellas there out! they disturbe me

gh15 approved
Look Gh15, we have no idea who or what you really are and that is fine for a gossip board. BUT in my mind that is all you are, a forum blogger, end of story , sorry but that's my take.


Your drugs promises and claims cause hopeful wannabee  guys to spend countless amounts of time and $$$ on the holy drug cycle on secret BB success. For the vast majirty of them it is false dream where they end up with less money and health problems.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 03, 2011, 07:35:48 PM
why dont' some of gh15's nonbelievers prove him wrong?  oh yeah cause he's right.


Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 07:38:47 PM
Look Gh15, we have no idea who or what you really are and that is fine for a gossip board. BUT in my mind that is all you are, a forum blogger, end of story , sorry but that's my take.


Your drugs promises and claims cause hopeful wannabee  guys to spend countless amounts of time and $$$ on the holy drug cycle on secret BB success. For the vast majirty of them it is false dream where they end up with less money and health problems.

and you k nwo what you are in my mind?

a disguting liar! ,, a twister of the truth,, all that you are doing under being npc judge! so you are corrupt,, this is worse than anything you can say...being currupt ,, do you know how bad it is to be corrupt? nothing is wrose than this ,, do you see how donky here talk to you right? he doesnt do it for nothing,, he find you and many hee find you corrupt and really a village idiot,,they dont joke with you either,, they really think of you to be honest worse than they think of black vince because the black vince has no idea about nothing....you on the other hand staight out lie! you think of them as stupid kids,, and many of them are not kidos ...they are in their 30s and 40s ,, many here are very experienced bodybuilders,, and you! laugh in their face and try to pass something for not what it is,,

you are very sneaky very manipulative fella,, im very serious,, i saw a video of you in one expo if im nto mistaken ...you come off as not all there,, even if you try to be funny you just dont seem to get it ...you are putting a very very bad stigma on bodybuuld,, you continue the lies,, i think you have agenda,, i think you make some money out of bodybuuld someway i dont know what exactly but you are just doing a big injustice to many many bodybuilders and you will go down as one arrogant goolible fella that LIED,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Howard on November 03, 2011, 07:55:26 PM
Well Gh15, opinions are like assholes,  , everyone has one and some stink more then others. ;)
Good luck.Post away and have fun.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 03, 2011, 08:28:46 PM
Well Gh15, opinions are like assholes,  , everyone has one and some stink more then others. ;)
Good luck.Post away and have fun.

"because ron said so"

"FYI"

 ::)

right howard? so are you certain?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 03, 2011, 08:29:27 PM
Look Gh15, we have no idea who or what you really are and that is fine for a gossip board. BUT in my mind that is all you are, a forum blogger, end of story , sorry but that's my take.


Your drugs promises and claims cause hopeful wannabee  guys to spend countless amounts of time and $$$ on the holy drug cycle on secret BB success. For the vast majirty of them it is false dream where they end up with less money and health problems.

Was just PM'd your "bodybuilding" photo when you competed. Holy shit bro. No offense but you really shouldn'y be talking to anyone. Sure you filled out the proper forms to become a city NPC judge, but you really have no clue how to build a body full of muscle.  Quite frankly Howard, you looked and still look like low grade dog shit. No offence.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Schmoff on November 03, 2011, 08:32:48 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117526.0;attach=439600;image)

how about this one? claimed life-time natural too

 :D :D

 :-X :-X
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 03, 2011, 08:36:49 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117526.0;attach=439600;image)

how about this one? claimed life-time natural too

 :D :D

 :-X :-X

musclcenter is loved here,, he can do whatever he want,, he can stand on his head and sing the national antumn of north korea he will stil be loved here,, thats the diff between fellas who contribute...and fellas like forest who come here to spit in the face of hard working bodybuild who do it the truthful way!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 03, 2011, 08:38:29 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117526.0;attach=439600;image)

how about this one? claimed life-time natural too

 :D :D

 :-X :-X

He's a top notch poster on Getbig. Top 5 all time. And this older fella makes Mr. NPC 30% body fat hopeless romantic so called teacher Howard look like complete and utter garbage.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 03, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
gh15 doesn't touch musclecenter. he is a protected species on getbig and is safe from ridicule (from him atleast).

but all you have to look to in whether or not gh15 thinks he is natural is at the "lbs, bf%, height" ratios. do they fit?  ;)

then to seal the deal..."no bodybuilding past ages 30-32 without hgh. and major HGH ABUSE needed past the age of 40-45 to even look anything like a bodybuilder"

musclecenter is approaching 60  ;)

but, a protected species. he has just about the only free pass to die with the lie for his services to getbig.com
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Schmoff on November 03, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
gh15 doesn't touch musclecenter. he is a protected species on getbig and is safe from ridicule (from him atleast).

but all you have to look to in whether or not gh15 thinks he is natural is at the "lbs, bf%, height" ratios. do they fit?  ;)

then to seal the deal..."no bodybuilding past ages 30-32 without hgh. and major HGH ABUSE needed past the age of 40-45 to even look anything like a bodybuilder"

musclecenter is approaching 60  ;)

but, a protected species. he has just about the only free pass to die with the lie for his services to getbig.com

hahaha

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 03, 2011, 08:53:18 PM
gh15 doesn't touch musclecenter. he is a protected species on getbig and is safe from ridicule (from him atleast).

but all you have to look to in whether or not gh15 thinks he is natural is at the "lbs, bf%, height" ratios. do they fit?  ;)

then to seal the deal..."no bodybuilding past ages 30-32 without hgh. and major HGH ABUSE needed past the age of 40-45 to even look anything like a bodybuilder"

musclecenter is approaching 60  ;)

but, a protected species. he has just about the only free pass to die with the lie for his services to getbig.com


Muscle center is a robot computer who spits out information about the cult faster than anyone on the planet. If King Kamali took a shit at McDonalds at 5pm on Friday night, muscle center will let us know by 5:30pm how many flushes he did.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 03, 2011, 08:55:36 PM

Muscle center is a robot computer who spits out information about the cult faster than anyone on the planet. If King Kamali took a shit at McDonalds at 5pm on Friday night, muscle center will let us know by 5:30pm how many flushes he did.

this is incorrect. musclecenter knows kamali needs to poo 30 minutes BEFORE it happens!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: notsureifsrs on November 04, 2011, 12:17:01 AM
Look Gh15, we have no idea who or what you really are and that is fine for a gossip board. BUT in my mind that is all you are, a forum blogger, end of story , sorry but that's my take.


Your drugs promises and claims cause hopeful wannabee  guys to spend countless amounts of time and $$$ on the holy drug cycle on secret BB success. For the vast majirty of them it is false dream where they end up with less money and health problems.
Oh so we better spend our money on legal supps the doesn't even work and our time on eating every 2 hours or is that if we are not blowing out to 230 6% in our first 5 months of training we should just quit because we are not "genetically gifted"?


Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 04, 2011, 12:21:29 AM
Oh so we better spend our money on legal supps the doesn't even work and our time on eating every 2 hours or is that if we are not blowing out to 230 6% in our first 5 months of training we should just quit because we are not "genetically gifted"?




dont pay attention to him ,, you should se how danta and sons fellas dusty hanshow or whatevr the fuck his name is ,,, and all the ratards he so call sponsor you should see how they look before they got into the gh ...and into the trenbolona...

rememebr bodybuild never want to share nothing,, the secrets are always kept with them and they always want to make you do something stupid so you dont get anywhere as good as them,, this is how it  is,, sad activity ,, there are some who want you r sucess...but they are theones you pay money to ....you know them ...the gurus,,, they will be on your side...pay chee cheeing though!

this is bodybuild for you my friend

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Leatherneck on November 04, 2011, 07:47:27 AM
Ron Harris contributes alot of good things with his interviews and articles but how could anyone believe that after using hormones for 5-7 years he could come off and end up weighing more and looking better than ever before. Not only that, but who after 40 puts on new natural size? His faithful supporters will probably mention that he started DC training for a while after he "came off" but who are we kidding.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: dyslexic on November 04, 2011, 08:18:46 AM
natty? this is a fella on hgh consistant in blood all year long take out few weeks prior to competition ,, this is hgh addict ,, its all in trenbolona and hgh i keep telling you this fellas

gh15 approved


I know you do, I just have to keep posting the most popular winner. Hell, he's my age by now. He aint no spring chicken. Many kids believe that is a naturally attainable look.

He disappears with his clothes on, but a lot of folks really wish they could do that naturally. I do. Sucks. I don't have extra stashes of growth cash.


Unless someone wants to do a trial experiment of before and afters with me just to prove a point and sell their shiz.


I'm at 11% bodyfat now, so it would be the perfect time... along with Trennybalonie.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: GettingBig on November 04, 2011, 09:21:38 AM
It's really very sad seeing and hearing people lies.

More sad when someone believes that taking whey and creatine, eating 6 meals a day will make you as big as Ronnie or jay!! It may make you fit and healthy and that's it.

It could take you years to finally believe it's all a big lie, chasing a false statement why ? Because someone decided to say he is natural without even asking him and market himself as one ! And makes you pay for it with all the whey,Pre, Post and now during workout supplements and more...when he just go inside his bathroom and inject his PED's.

I can understand someone keeping it personal and avoid talking about it, I do respect his privacy.

but when someone write and market him self as natural, laying to everyone and to me without any reason just because he feels good and makes money out of his lies and makes me believe something he is not..that's what I can't take.

I do read MD to be honest and others too it's because I do love bodybuilding and I do enjoy holding a magazine reading researches and enjoy looking at the pictures maybe I got used to paper magazines since for me it's more enjoyable to hold a mag than reading from my iPad.

So I have no issues with any magazines out there.

And I'm really not an expert when it comes to PED's but from reading and seeing people around I can tell and I'm not sugar coating gh15 or complementing him, I have no such agenda but since he is offering his knowledge and his own opinion i do tend to trust his words lately.

After all you decide what is good for you work around yourself and build the knowledge been offered to you, trial and error no one will ever tell you exactly what you need because you know your body more than anyone !
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: MAXX on November 04, 2011, 09:30:44 AM
LIARS.
That's bodybuilding for you.

Liars... All smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: MrBigandCut on November 04, 2011, 03:35:53 PM
Howard I would rather Gh-15 tells people including youngsters how a proper bodybuilder is built and gets to look like they do!  I would rather do that then try and trick people into buying a false dream of supplement balloie!!!

I'm sorry but a true natural on stage looks like half starved victim of refuge camp not a bodybuilder!! If your goin to be competitve bodybuilder and proper bodybuilder in 2011 and look impressive you have to 5' 8' 230 minimum! taller guys 240 250 260 upwards!!

Gh-15 advise is for real bodybuilder!! dedicated to getting to these levels! What you are talking about is non-competitve recreational lifters! The advise is clearly not for them or you !!!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: apply85 on November 04, 2011, 04:17:55 PM
5'10! make sure you read bible AGAIN,, 5'10 not 5'11 this is 7lb per inch forest!! this is big diff,,

5'10 170 6% is A VERY VERY VERY HIGHLY VERY VERY HIGHLY SUPERB GENETIC NATURAL ,, most hardly make it to 160lb

gh15 approved

have you ever actually seen 170 5'10 6% natural? I mean complete natural, no prohormones ever, no diet pills nothing, because I haven't
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Steve Namat on November 04, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
Hmmm, well Gh15, bodybuilding is just one part of my life , it doesn't consume my life.
I will never stand on the Olympia or pro stage but have enjoyed bodybuilding on my terms.

Once again, unless you want to go pro, you don't have to use big drug cycles to look like a bodybuilder.
Good point!

AND

Even if you wanna be (or you are) a pro, it's not always necessary, unless u have average or below average genetics...
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: MrBigandCut on November 04, 2011, 05:07:59 PM
Most people who have half descent bodies in the first couple of years of training would have average or above average genetics but its the compounds on a huge scale that that person takes which gets him to pro level!  If you thing it comes any lighter than this you are either lieing to cover up the truth or sadly dillusioned about the modern day bodybuilder!!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: MrBigandCut on November 04, 2011, 05:19:07 PM
by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!!  ;)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: DK II on November 04, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!!  ;)

Ouch, poor Steve.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on November 04, 2011, 09:03:51 PM
Most people who have half descent bodies in the first couple of years of training would have average or above average genetics but its the compounds on a huge scale that that person takes which gets him to pro level!  If you thing it comes any lighter than this you are either lieing to cover up the truth or sadly dillusioned about the modern day bodybuilder!!

and you ae right ,, it is all in the hormones,, ALL in the hormones ,,, doses ,, quality ,, and timing

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: el numero uno on November 04, 2011, 09:08:30 PM
by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!!  ;)

Bullshit, the only difference is the height, if Namat or any other competitor from the 202 class were 5'9-5'11 they would be >240 lbs. C'mon, don't you think it's kinda hard to be 5'4 and 200 lbs at 4% bf?

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 04, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
Herris has started to take the piss an mimic gh15 now  >:(
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 04, 2011, 10:12:28 PM
Herris has started to take the piss an mimic gh15 now  >:(
Yes I saw this.  


Copy and paste.

this is lye perpechuated by lieing magazeens and supp companeez. How do yu get 270 at 5%? Testosterona, trenbolona, slin, and loads of HGH. Yes, HGH can turnn enyone into Mr. Olyeempia. gennetix menes noething.

RH15 Approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: io856 on November 04, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
Yes I saw this.  


Copy and paste.

this is lye perpechuated by lieing magazeens and supp companeez. How do yu get 270 at 5%? Testosterona, trenbolona, slin, and loads of HGH. Yes, HGH can turnn enyone into Mr. Olyeempia. gennetix menes noething.

RH15 Approved
lol I can imagine all the emotion as he is mashing the keyboard posting that balonie

(http://www.gifsoup.com/view/257866/keyboard-smash-o.gif)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 04, 2011, 10:26:46 PM
Yes I saw this.  


Copy and paste.

this is lye perpechuated by lieing magazeens and supp companeez. How do yu get 270 at 5%? Testosterona, trenbolona, slin, and loads of HGH. Yes, HGH can turnn enyone into Mr. Olyeempia. gennetix menes noething.

RH15 Approved

270 huh? first he need to get to 205 lb  shredded which is he cant and he is on all those and then some,, that filt is going to pay eventhough a jew from jew mother he is going to pay ,, comiting crimes againt your own people is bad enoughfor him to pay,, he will pay

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: notsureifsrs on November 05, 2011, 04:37:53 AM
Good point!

AND

Even if you wanna be (or you are) a pro, it's not always necessary, unless u have average or below average genetics...
Explain genetics...
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: DK II on November 05, 2011, 04:41:15 AM
Explain genetics...

genetics = how good do you react to gear as in great results, no side effects.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: notsureifsrs on November 05, 2011, 04:53:48 AM
genetics = how good do you react to gear as in great results, no side effects.
And scientifically?
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on November 05, 2011, 08:27:41 AM
genetics = how good do you react to gear as in great results, no side effects.
Yeah, your muscle shape , insertion locations, frame,  along with how you respond to lifting and diet has NOTHING to with muscle growth, right? ???
You guys are like a cult.
Saying drugs are the main reason for BB success is as big a lie as saying the IFBB pros are natural.

If you lack as a bodybuilder, you accept it or need an excuse.
I admit, I lacked the basic raw talent and drive to be a top bodybuilder.
I never used some lame excuse , like drugs, to make me feel better.

You folks need to "man up" and just admit the top pros are simply more gifted and/or work harder then a lot of you clowns.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 05, 2011, 08:28:58 AM
by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!!  ;)
By this fine logic, the only pro football teams are the ones that play in the Superbowl.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Wiggs on November 05, 2011, 08:33:26 AM
Why are you guys arguing with an NPC Judge?  You know their decsion making processes are scewed.  Only thing worse would be to argue with an IFBB Judge.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: makaveli25 on November 05, 2011, 08:41:12 AM
If It's not all about drugs why don't we see any life time natural pros onstage. You don't! You have to have decent genetics I think good muscle insertions all of that. Drugs equals more thank half the equation though. no drugs no high level physiques!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: booty on November 05, 2011, 08:45:25 AM
If It's not all about drugs why don't we see any life time natural pros onstage. You don't! You have to have decent genetics I think good muscle insertions all of that. Drugs equals more thank half the equation though. no drugs no high level physiques!
It's not that it's all about drugs, it's that they play a big part in attaining a very high level physique.  Everybody knows, that you will never see a real natural on the Mr Olympia stage. 
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 05, 2011, 08:47:38 AM
5'10! make sure you read bible AGAIN,, 5'10 not 5'11 this is 7lb per inch forest!! this is big diff,,

5'10 170 6% is A VERY VERY VERY HIGHLY VERY VERY HIGHLY SUPERB GENETIC NATURAL ,, most hardly make it to 160lb

gh15 approved
After reading the Oct post about your secret GOV job with aliens and "luna level" security clearence, I now understand you better.  ;)
May the forece be with you GH15 , live long an prosper my friend.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Wiggs on November 05, 2011, 08:49:30 AM
After reading the Oct post about your secret GOV job with aliens and "luna level" security clearence, I now understand you better.  ;)
May the forece be with you GH15 , live long an prosper my friend.

Please go away...Please.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 05, 2011, 08:54:56 AM
Go to the top of pg 10 on the new GH15 is Gunter or DJ proof thread and read what GH15 posted about his own bio.
He actually posted about how he was some secret men in black agent for the GOV and with aliens.
I assume it has to be a joke on his part as nobody sane would be serious about that,
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 05, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
Go to the top of pg 10 on the new GH15 is Gunter or DJ proof thread and read what GH15 posted about his own bio.
He actually posted about how he was some secret men in black agent for the GOV and with aliens.
I assume it has to be a joke on his part as nobody sane would be serious about that,

Many said that Black water didn't exist. Until the government admitted to it.

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 05, 2011, 09:12:06 AM
Bodybuilders got away with lying all the way up through the 90's. When the interweb developed into its own entity, liars and cheats are being brought to the surface. It takes a massive ego to live well into the 21st century and still want to lie and cheat on the internet and not think you will be called on it. These assholes claiming natural status have serious mental problems. And they need to be flushed out. GH15 is doing the brain that is the internet a noble service. He should be applauded for his actions. Next we need to go after all the politicians.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 05, 2011, 09:13:23 AM

If you lack as a bodybuilder, you accept it or need an excuse.
I admit, I lacked the basic raw talent and drive to be a top bodybuilder.
I never used some lame excuse , like drugs, to make me feel better.

You folks need to "man up" and just admit the top pros are simply more gifted and/or work harder then a lot of you clowns.

You're the clown. What are you saying, that you would've turned pro on that "150mg Winstrol a week for 6 weeks" stack had you had the "raw talent"? You never gave it a real shot and now you're preaching mediocrity to everyone else.

Your excuse is you didn't have the talent. But you don't know since you never really tried. Turning pro is hard but you might have had some regional or state titles at least. Now you have nothing and want the same for everyone else.

Give us your "reasonable" level of drug use for a state title winner. Let's see if it's what most state level winners use. Give us the reasonable level of drug use for local/state/regional/national levels. Let's see what you deem rational and healthy.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: dr.chimps on November 05, 2011, 09:17:17 AM
You're the clown. What are you saying, that you would've turned pro on that "150mg Winstrol a week for 6 weeks" stack had you had the "raw talent"? You never gave it a real shot and now you're preaching mediocrity to everyone else.

Your excuse is you didn't have the talent. But you don't know since you never really tried. Turning pro is hard but you might have had some regional or state titles at least. Now you have nothing and want the same for everyone else.
Ouch.           Occupy complacency!
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: dyslexic on November 05, 2011, 09:33:54 AM
Let's start a new thread or something.



Dedicate it to Howard and be done already.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 05, 2011, 10:30:57 AM
u mad ron herris?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2011, 10:45:28 AM
Whos is Ron Harris and why should gh15 even bother with him?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Tito24 on November 05, 2011, 10:54:49 AM
ron is the dingleberry in gh's ass
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Meso_z on November 05, 2011, 11:44:13 AM
ron is the dingleberry in gh's ass
Hes a hair from gh15 balls.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 05, 2011, 02:17:42 PM
270 huh? first he need to get to 205 lb  shredded which is he cant and he is on all those and then some,, that filt is going to pay eventhough a jew from jew mother he is going to pay ,, comiting crimes againt your own people is bad enoughfor him to pay,, he will pay

gh15 approved

Shut the fuck up and tell us just how much gh this twat is abusing already. And don't try to bullshit us, because we all know Asians are about as capable of getting to a ripped 170lbs without stupid amounts of drugs as pigs are of taking flight. Worst genetics for building muscle on the planet.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117526.0;attach=439600;image)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 05, 2011, 02:21:40 PM
ron is the dingleberry in gh's ass

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 05, 2011, 02:30:52 PM
Shut the fuck up and tell us just how much gh this twat is abusing already. And don't try to bullshit us, because we all know Asians are about as capable of getting to a ripped 170lbs without stupid amounts of drugs as pigs are of taking flight. Worst genetics for building muscle on the planet.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117526.0;attach=439600;image)
Are you a fresh poster or a gimmick ?  Would you leave Musclecenter out of this ?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 05, 2011, 02:42:28 PM
All drugs. And fuck you.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 05, 2011, 03:10:54 PM
All drugs. And fuck you.
Are you a gimmick or just an ordinary asshole ?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 05, 2011, 04:49:56 PM
probably raped as a kid
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 05, 2011, 05:04:47 PM
Liar Herriss is unhappy  :'(

Quote
Quote from: Ron Harris;2832245
Just so you know what a wonderful human being this GH15 is, he wished 'premature death' on me, and also stated that 'my children' should pay for my sins as per Biblical law. Also called my wife a 'whore.'

Real brave when you are totally anonymous, isn't he?

I dare him to say anything like that to my face. I don't care how big and bad he is (or isn't). You can run your mouth off about me all day, but you don't talk about my family like that.

His minions will now start another thread on GetBig. Won't matter, he will never reveal himself because he is A) a fucking coward who talks tough behind a keyboard, and B) a drug dealer. Anyone who spends so much time glorifying the magical properties of tren and GH most likely has a huge financial interest in increasing sales of them.

Go run back to your daddy and tattle now, bitch.


Deluded Narcotic dealer melting

Quote
Quote from: Mike Arnold;2832731
GH15 is about to be "un-done"...stay tuned for further information. How many of you here would believe that GH15 is really nothing more than a rail-thin 40+ year old troll who was NEVER a pro BB'r in his life? I can't fuckin' wait for things be be finalized. This guy is about to be un-done in a big way and will NEVER be followed on the boards again. There are quite a few people out there who don't like this guy and have more info on him than you would think...big names who have his IP address, location, even pics. I can only imagine what his followers will do when realize they have been listening to nothing but a troll who parrots other people's information. A glorious day is ahead.

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: el numero uno on November 05, 2011, 05:22:31 PM
Ron Harris is a fucking piece of shit, I would knock him out and then proceed to shit in his mouth.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
both mike arneld and the heris filt ...as i said,, will get what they deserve,, they did one huge mistake,, they interfer with gh15,, that = end ,, they will learn it will come,, and you will all witness it,, like the drug dealer 2002 faith came in 2007,, like others storys i told along the years,, they will fell it in the harshest possible way ,, much harsher than some moderators felt it ,,much harsher

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Bam-bam on November 05, 2011, 05:38:45 PM
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ROFL, these guys are melting down all over the place
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 05:40:32 PM
and they have a reason to! they know i give justice,, they know i dotn talk balonie,, they know that it come and they can only wait,, they know it thats why meltdown,,thy know from research for they reseacherd ...that i do not balonie around that what i said is truth...they know about paying the price from other fellas who did ...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 05:45:38 PM
Liar Herriss is unhappy  :'(



Deluded Narcotic dealer melting




oh and here is somehtin gyou should say there from gh15 ,, this directly from my MOUTH my mouth!,,

ron heris ,, you are disgusting jew,, your wife is not a whore you are the whore who cheat on her!  your kids will pay the price for your sins and the shout you will shout will be from buttom of your heart,, it wil be in something they will do to you like you did to your jew mother,, i will punish you with the worst of the worst and it is betrayl of your kids in some way or another,, in addition to devostating impact from a place you never imagined


filt liar disgusting ,,misleader,, spit lies all over magazine,, arrogant little fragile homo,,you will pay and i decided to add you the punishment of devostating impact due to the humiliating you wanted to do to the slow fella jason not sure about the name but elfs reported to me about it and you abuse and humiliate bodybuilders! for that you will pay ,, i told you I HATE AND DISPIZE LIAR,, BUT I NEVER FORGIVE HIMILIATION,,

let him know that i dont even let my elfs know this because i want the all bodybuild cult to see it and to make sure the cult knows it!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 05, 2011, 05:46:34 PM
ron heris please read the book of daniel
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 05, 2011, 05:54:18 PM
oh and here is somehtin gyou should say there from gh15 ,, this directly from my MOUTH my mouth!,,

ron heris ,, you are disgusting jew,, your wife is not a whore you are the whore who cheat on her!  your kids will pay the price for your sins and the shout you will shout will be from buttom of your heart,, it wil be in something they will do to you like you did to your jew mother,, i will punish you with the worst of the worst and it is betrayl of your kids in some way or another,, in addition to devostating impact from a place you never imagined


filt liar disgusting ,,misleader,, spit lies all over magazine,, arrogant little fragile homo,,you will pay and i decided to add you the punishment of devostating impact due to the humiliating you wanted to do to the slow fella jason not sure about the name but elfs reported to me about it and you abuse and humiliate bodybuilders! for that you will pay ,, i told you I HATE AND DISPIZE LIAR,, BUT I NEVER FORGIVE HIMILIATION,,

let him know that i dont even let my elfs know this because i want the all bodybuild cult to see it and to make sure the cult knows it!

gh15 approved

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 06:08:34 PM
ron heris please read the book of daniel

it doesnt mater what he read,, I AM A FALLEN ANGEL,, anyone who come into contact with me and abuse or humilate bodybuild end up losing enormous important thing out of their lifes ,, they say they dont ,, they live day to day rememebr all are filt that live the day ,, but it comes years down the road with gh15 stamp on it and its known it is from gh15,, this is what fellas dont understand,,

i am a fallen angel! i am not joking,, this is why contact with me should be kept to minimal this is why i am a loner like apply say ,,this is why i chose my elfs very carefuly ,,

obvisouly any posting i make is read by 100s of 1000s of fellas around the world,, im aware of this,, but what the filt is not aware of is that in 2005 something happen ,, i used to show mercy but in 2005 this mercy  was given no more ,, even if im ok with the fella after he comited crimes against bodybuild,, i cant change his faith,, this is what fellas do not get,,

if i named you name on that list ,, you ...well i wish you luck,, its not up to me ,, i told you im a fallen angel look into it,, for some reason anyone who come incontact with me and done crimes against bodybuild end up in catastrophy of in his own world,, real life,, some i wish i could change but its not up to me ,, moment they did it and came incontact with me in some way shape or form they are doomed,,

the 2 ingredients are,,1 to do crimes against bodybuild as in humilating,, as in betrayal,, etc,, 2 to come inconact with me in some form ,,

this is the thing,, and its not up to me to change this is the sad thnig here,,even when i talk normal to you ,,nto up to me anymore,, the words fallen angel are still write on the ground in munich germany where i was in 2005 when this happened

gh15 approved

Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 05, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
gh15 are you protected by semion?zeev rosenstein?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 06:22:57 PM
and the reson why liar priest is not on that list,, as secret stack ask me,, is because he got punished,,ask him...he got punished he is checked
no more bodybuild for him on stage

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 05, 2011, 07:05:33 PM
you should hook us up with some stories about people who paid the price.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 08:01:07 PM
you should hook us up with some stories about people who paid the price.

did that already ,, i told you about dealer 2002 this was a very big story ,, he was a very very mean cruel nasty all drug type of fella,, very cruel very vulggar treat everyone acording to how much muscle they have and only if buy from him ,, he was the epidome of big mouth ,, ofcourse my elf told him you will get what you deserve ,, my even my elf didnt expect what hapened after,,

it was punishment in stages,, it came slow,, first i madde sure elf was moved location and far away ,, then the punishment started 2 years later when everything was alredy forgot by anyone ,, none evern remembered who was who and what was what... then the punishment happened,, first the fella lost his muscle and got in problem with law,, big problems  in and out from jail and door broke down to house many times,, but this was first stage

secod stage happen 3 year later and this was my fallen angel justice,, he went to sleep in night,, to never woke up again ,, causd of death FROM NATURAL CAUSES ,, overdose of vicodin ,, that mean there was no one in the room with him ,, his whore was in bed with him to find him out dead in morning when open eyes,, this was a fallen angel punishment,, everyone who ever did wrong as in abused misused humilate!! hard working bodybuild! every single one of them end up iwith a fallen angel punishment,, it can be many things but it is FALL ANGEL punishment,, it may come slower and things may be forgot and say whatever as your generation like say ,,  but it always comes


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 05, 2011, 10:17:44 PM
did that already ,, i told you about dealer 2002 this was a very big story ,, he was a very very mean cruel nasty all drug type of fella,, very cruel very vulggar treat everyone acording to how much muscle they have and only if buy from him ,, he was the epidome of big mouth ,, ofcourse my elf told him you will get what you deserve ,, my even my elf didnt expect what hapened after,,

it was punishment in stages,, it came slow,, first i madde sure elf was moved location and far away ,, then the punishment started 2 years later when everything was alredy forgot by anyone ,, none evern remembered who was who and what was what... then the punishment happened,, first the fella lost his muscle and got in problem with law,, big problems  in and out from jail and door broke down to house many times,, but this was first stage

secod stage happen 3 year later and this was my fallen angel justice,, he went to sleep in night,, to never woke up again ,, causd of death FROM NATURAL CAUSES ,, overdose of vicodin ,, that mean there was no one in the room with him ,, his whore was in bed with him to find him out dead in morning when open eyes,, this was a fallen angel punishment,, everyone who ever did wrong as in abused misused humilate!! hard working bodybuild! every single one of them end up iwith a fallen angel punishment,, it can be many things but it is FALL ANGEL punishment,, it may come slower and things may be forgot and say whatever as your generation like say ,,  but it always comes


gh15 approved

Vicodin(hydrocodone) is a weak opiate I find it hard to believe thats all he had in his system as vicodin only overdoses are rare! heroin or oxycontin/oxycodone is a diffrent story but vicodin not likely unless he took a whole bottle and was trying to kill himself. Id call it karma. you personally have never took care of a situation. the only thing you claimed to do is rat people out. karma goes around in all directions even the rats get fucked by karma in the end so if I were you I would watch it as you have claimed to rat out gymace and jtp815. even though I hated both of them myself I would never of ratted on them.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 05, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
Molina ratted out jtp and gymace. 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 05, 2011, 11:22:59 PM
Vicodin(hydrocodone) is a weak opiate I find it hard to believe thats all he had in his system as vicodin only overdoses are rare! heroin or oxycontin/oxycodone is a diffrent story but vicodin not likely unless he took a whole bottle and was trying to kill himself. Id call it karma. you personally have never took care of a situation. the only thing you claimed to do is rat people out. karma goes around in all directions even the rats get fucked by karma in the end so if I were you I would watch it as you have claimed to rat out gymace and jtp815. even though I hated both of them myself I would never of ratted on them.


i told you im ok with you ,, i talk fine with you ,, but you are on the list,, its a big problem for you ,, the problem is you are very arogant and basicaly fearless,, and this was him to the t,, i had a lot to do with what hapen to him ,, i told you and i wil say it once again i am a fallen angel,, god of hormones is something i became on the internet,, but fallen angel is something was not up to me i didnt have a hand in it i didnt put knowlegde and experience to be it,, i am  FALLEN ANGEL,, it is somethign you either are or not,, this also got my places in life that most didnt,, and it sound liek suck muscle talk but its not ,, it is truth,,

i hope you do fine,, be happy with today ,, an dlive life to fulest ,, dont hide home,, and done start kissing my ass because it wont help,, i am fallen angel,, anyone who come incontact with me that humiliated cheated caused harm did damage to bodybuild in this case bodybuild because this is the love of my life,, anyone who did this to bodybuilders...in some form or another ,, meet a punishment,, you can chose to believe or not,, this is not something that come i 3 months or 30 months,, its something that come,,

just so its clear,, the dealer found dead in his bed from vicodin overdose swallow tonuge was not suicide ,, he was found dead 5 years to the date it happened ,, same exact date 5 years later,,

fallen angel

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 06, 2011, 12:23:18 AM
this is the thing,, and its not up to me to change this is the sad thnig here,,even when i talk normal to you ,,nto up to me anymore,, the words fallen angel are still write on the ground in munich germany where i was in 2005 when this happened

gh15 approved



this. trying to interpret  ???
 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 06, 2011, 01:22:11 AM
Molina ratted out jtp and gymace. 

this makes more sense as molina was busted importing igf-1 and hgh.I dont think gh15 really had anything to do with it! plus i think molina was a remailer for gymaces thai tabs. My question is why did Gh15 take credit? like I said I could give a shit that they got in trouble as I hated both of them myself mainly gymace and I am nowhere near as cocky as gymace! he claimed he was some MMA wannabee and thought he was invinceable also was cocky but I was a vet on his forum and there were alot of other very good guys on that site
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 01:35:51 AM
this makes more sense as molina was busted importing igf-1 and hgh.I dont think gh15 really had anything to do with it! plus i think molina was a remailer for gymaces thai tabs. My question is why did Gh15 take credit? like I said I could give a shit that they got in trouble as I hated both of them myself mainly gymace and I am nowhere near as cocky as gymace! he claimed he was some MMA wannabee and thought he was invinceable also was cocky but I was a vet on his forum and there were alot of other very good guys on that site
Yes Molina was a remailer and also had admin status on ssb.  Jtp sent Molina a few thousand dollars when he was busted to help him out.  If you remember rightly, Molina had just got married and was trying to get a greencard.  
So are you going to tell me your username on ssb??? 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 06, 2011, 01:57:34 AM

i told you im ok with you ,, i talk fine with you ,, but you are on the list,, its a big problem for you ,, the problem is you are very arogant and basicaly fearless,, and this was him to the t,, i had a lot to do with what hapen to him ,, i told you and i wil say it once again i am a fallen angel,, god of hormones is something i became on the internet,, but fallen angel is something was not up to me i didnt have a hand in it i didnt put knowlegde and experience to be it,, i am  FALLEN ANGEL,, it is somethign you either are or not,, this also got my places in life that most didnt,, and it sound liek suck muscle talk but its not ,, it is truth,,

i hope you do fine,, be happy with today ,, an dlive life to fulest ,, dont hide home,, and done start kissing my ass because it wont help,, i am fallen angel,, anyone who come incontact with me that humiliated cheated caused harm did damage to bodybuild in this case bodybuild because this is the love of my life,, anyone who did this to bodybuilders...in some form or another ,, meet a punishment,, you can chose to believe or not,, this is not something that come i 3 months or 30 months,, its something that come,,

just so its clear,, the dealer found dead in his bed from vicodin overdose swallow tonuge was not suicide ,, he was found dead 5 years to the date it happened ,, same exact date 5 years later,,

fallen angel

gh15 approved

I am the one guy on this forum who has never kissed your ass. I also never said anything bad about you except you had no proof you were a actual pro. I never offended anybody who didn't deserve it. you got mad at me because I came clean and said nordic ripped off my boy and sold him some fake xanax. what i said was true they were fake. I tried them! I have never ever got anything gear related bunk from nordic but those xanax were definately bunk that is all I said. I am fearless I do not fear anybody you cant live life always looking behind you I always settle things and make it right with anybody who has a problem with me. I have never done wrong to anybody! that I can promise you I actually have helped people out of my own pocket when they got scammed by AP(anapharm) back when they flipped and gave the police their email and password and tols them to go ahead and take orders as if the cops were AP. lots of people lost money and me and some guys got together and gave up some of our own stash to these guys who got scammed so they had something as some people were out thousands. so I have definately done more than my share never fucked over a soul and like I said I have given people shit for free! thats good karma. I have no worries. I have no bad karma coming my way because I never screwed anybody over! I dont have any problem with you either except it would be nice to get confirmation that you are a real pro. posting one picture couldnt hurt. if you want to stay annonymous I understand but I will break your balls from time to time but mostly I am just fucking with you. I know that you have the knowledge and have helped people out with their stacks. some blue stars would definately eliminate alot of the doubt.
I have never put down any pro bodybuilder. thats not my style. being arrogant and fearless is not a bad thing. I am like this in real life I am not scared of anybody and I am a little cocky but thats mainly when I am on cycle alot of people get cocky when they are on cycle and jacked up on gear.But never have I fucked anybody over and I have been generous to many people. nobody could say I have done them wrong. You have called me a drug addict, a dealer, a rat none of wich are true. I was honest about the 2 prescription meds I take and that is really all I take I dont use street drugs I am muslim. so Gh15 why should I watch my back? because I talked bad about nordic and some of the chinese generic HGH brands?? believe me I do not have any worries in my life and have no bad karma coming my way. I have believed in karma for years if you do wrong to others it will eventually come back on yourself so treat others how you wish to be treated otherwise you might wind up having a string of bad luck and it might not be you maybe your kid will get cancer or your mom but it could be due to something you did wrong in the past that affected someone elses life in a negative way. so believe me I know all about karma and i am more than good with god
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 06, 2011, 01:09:49 AM
with allah you mean,,alright,,
you have here a beautiful eyes big boobed  great legs georgous hotness female asking you question and you chose to answer gh15...

something is wrong here

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 06, 2011, 01:18:38 AM
Yes Molina was a remailer and also had admin status on ssb.  Jtp sent Molina a few thousand dollars when he was busted to help him out.  If you remember rightly, Molina had just got married and was trying to get a greencard.  
So are you going to tell me your username on ssb??? 


I remember Gimp was a huge prick as well! another guy I hated. Molina appeared like he was from india to me I know he was darker and from NJ or New York. I
remember him posting his pictures after a few cycles and I also had talked via PM before. I remember Molinas name was in blue and he did some computer updating or something like that. maybe making the site safer I thought he was good with computers and thats what they used him for. I forget his title exactly but i do remember his name was in blue. and he was a darker fella as he posted pictures even showing his face If I remember right. I will not give my handle on SSb for safety reasons and those who know me well know what my handle was. I was a vet on the forum and besides gymace and gimp I made alot of great connections on that forum there were some really great people on that board! guys you could trust like family. its to bad it was taken down.But I still am in contact with alot of the old SSB members.maybe the owner and gimp was a piece of shit but as far as members go you couldnt ask for better people! at least that was my experience everybody treated each other like family.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Fitness4Life on November 06, 2011, 01:18:53 AM

i told you im ok with you ,, i talk fine with you ,, but you are on the list,, its a big problem for you ,, the problem is you are very arogant and basicaly fearless,, and this was him to the t,, i had a lot to do with what hapen to him ,, i told you and i wil say it once again i am a fallen angel,, god of hormones is something i became on the internet,, but fallen angel is something was not up to me i didnt have a hand in it i didnt put knowlegde and experience to be it,, i am  FALLEN ANGEL,, it is somethign you either are or not,, this also got my places in life that most didnt,, and it sound liek suck muscle talk but its not ,, it is truth,,

i hope you do fine,, be happy with today ,, an dlive life to fulest ,, dont hide home,, and done start kissing my ass because it wont help,, i am fallen angel,, anyone who come incontact with me that humiliated cheated caused harm did damage to bodybuild in this case bodybuild because this is the love of my life,, anyone who did this to bodybuilders...in some form or another ,, meet a punishment,, you can chose to believe or not,, this is not something that come i 3 months or 30 months,, its something that come,,

just so its clear,, the dealer found dead in his bed from vicodin overdose swallow tonuge was not suicide ,, he was found dead 5 years to the date it happened ,, same exact date 5 years later,,

fallen angel

gh15 approved

i dont like this fallen angel character, be god of hormones, talk shit on americano whores, do politics once in a while, issues that interest you, this fallen angel stuff is starting to sound like a bad sci fi movie.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 01:19:21 AM
with allah you mean,,alright,,
you have here a beautiful eyes big boobed  great legs georgous hotness female asking you question and you chose to answer gh15...

something is wrong here

gh15 approved
He won't answer who he was on ssb.   ???  
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 06, 2011, 01:20:56 AM
with allah you mean,,alright,,
you have here a beautiful eyes big boobed  great legs georgous hotness female asking you question and you chose to answer gh15...

something is wrong here

gh15 approved

didn't know you knew anything about allah. and i did answer tight booty just didnt see her question
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 06, 2011, 01:24:37 AM
i dont like this fallen angel character, be god of hormones, talk shit on americano whores, do politics once in a while, issues that interest you, this fallen angel stuff is starting to sound like a bad sci fi movie.

i wish friend,, i wish ,, i realy wish it was sci fi,, i wil say again ,, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE FELLAS WHO CAME INCONTACT WITH ME! either passed on or had very close fellas to him pass on and other very horrible things ,, the common thing to those felas were,, ABUSE OF THE CULT VIA OVER POWER,, VIA HUMILIATING MEMBERS ,, VIA CORRUPTION ,, crimes agsint bodybuilders who have no power!,, all of them ALL OF THEM payed heavy heavy price ,, im telling you hee i wish i joked,, im not

i am a fallen angel ,, it is not character,, check around the cult

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 01:26:23 AM
I remember Gimp was a huge prick as well! another guy I hated. Molina appeared like he was from india to me I know he was darker and from NJ or New York. I
remember him posting his pictures after a few cycles and I also had talked via PM before. I remember Molinas name was in blue and he did some computer updating or something like that. maybe making the site safer I thought he was good with computers and thats what they used him for. I forget his title exactly but i do remember his name was in blue. and he was a darker fella as he posted pictures even showing his face If I remember right. I will not give my handle on SSb for safety reasons and those who know me well know what my handle was. I was a vet on the forum and besides gymace and gimp I made alot of great connections on that forum there were some really great people on that board! guys you could trust like family. its to bad it was taken down.But I still am in contact with alot of the old SSB members.maybe the owner and gimp was a piece of shit but as far as members go you couldnt ask for better people! at least that was my experience everybody treated each other like family.
Molina was a security mod at first and then he moved up to admin.  Gimp was a pos, however gymace wasn't.  The fault that gymace had was that he thought he was invincable and he thought he couldn't be busted living in thailand.  But they went over and arrested him and took him back to the usa.  
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 06, 2011, 01:33:18 AM
and the worst thing of it all ,, every time it happen and i turn on radio this comes up,, and im not joking




every single time this is what comes up

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 01:51:01 AM
I am pretty sure Molina was hispanic. 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 06, 2011, 01:58:59 AM
Any nudes of Molina ?  :D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 02:04:39 AM
Any nudes of Molina ?  :D
No Molina was a guy.   ;D  I vaguely recall how he looked, don't ever remember seeing pics with his face.  
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 06, 2011, 02:07:31 AM
No Molina was a guy.   ;D  
>:(

(http://www.justsaypictures.com/images/it-s-a-trap-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 06, 2011, 02:08:14 AM
He won't answer who he was on ssb.   ???  

I Pmed you my handle on SSB. but i prefer you keep it to yourself
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: whitewidow on November 06, 2011, 02:12:50 AM
No Molina was a guy.   ;D  I vaguely recall how he looked, don't ever remember seeing pics with his face.  

I know he posted a eries of pictures of him flexing but all I could see was he was darker maybe he didnt show his face. He did do a rear double bicep. I just remeber he was darker he could of been hispanic. I couldnt tell I said inida because his name was seyed molina
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 02:16:46 AM
I know he posted a eries of pictures of him flexing but all I could see was he was darker maybe he didnt show his face. He did do a rear double bicep. I just remeber he was darker he could of been hispanic. I couldnt tell I said inida because his name was seyed molina
I remember those pics he posted too, but he had his face blocked out.  Molina was just his username on there. 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 02:18:00 AM
>:(

(http://www.justsaypictures.com/images/it-s-a-trap-03.jpg)
That's a big one for such a little, um guy.   :o
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 06, 2011, 02:23:41 AM
That's a big one for such a little, um guy.   :o
A big winky on a lil dinky  ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 02:27:07 AM
A big winky on a lil dinky  ;D
A very big winky.   :D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 06, 2011, 03:56:58 AM
Where's the list?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 06, 2011, 03:58:00 AM
Where's the list?
You mean the gh15 Death list ?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 06, 2011, 04:00:32 AM
You mean the gh15 Death list ?
Yes I seem to have missed it
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 06, 2011, 04:38:28 AM
the list thread was deleted before it even got to its 2nd page
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 06, 2011, 04:46:36 AM
the list thread was deleted before it even got to its 2nd page
Who was on it? Liar priest, Ron heris and mike Arnold?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Secret Stack on November 06, 2011, 04:57:19 AM
Who was on it? Liar priest, Ron heris and mike Arnold?

if the thread was deleted THAT quick, then it may be a banable offence and rebellious of me to repeat it, but i will say that liar was not on the list and i did question why he was not and got my answer in either this thread or in the dennis james thread from gh15.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 06, 2011, 05:01:26 AM
There were 4 amigos on the list, but it seems I shouldn't give you any names for I could be banned.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D what a bullshit  8)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on November 06, 2011, 06:19:29 AM
lmao,,, ;D
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: gh15 on November 06, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
You mean the gh15 Death list ?

it wasnt deat list,, nver said death,, it was A LIST

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 06, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
So Ron Harris will also die?
I think letting him live on this planet in his current biological "incarnation" is a better punishment than any death what so ever.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 06, 2011, 01:46:16 PM
it wasnt deat list,, nver said death,, it was A LIST

gh15 approved
ok, a list     ;D    you really love the guru status don't ya ?    8)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 06, 2011, 01:56:01 PM
it wasnt deat list,, nver said death,, it was A LIST

gh15 approved
Who was on the list besides mike arnold and Ron heris?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: Nirvana on November 06, 2011, 02:04:23 PM
someone give me the names I'll repost them.





I got like 20 gimmick accounts lying fallow anyway.
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 06, 2011, 02:32:59 PM
where is the death list?
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: billytwolips on November 06, 2011, 03:34:34 PM
what the hell is ssb? 
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: booty on November 06, 2011, 03:39:25 PM
what the hell is ssb? 
It's a forum that use to exist.  steriodsuperboard
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: WillGrant on November 06, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CLRWt.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: billytwolips on November 06, 2011, 05:00:44 PM
It's a forum that use to exist.  steriodsuperboard

oic... thx!
Title: Re: Ron Harris calling gh15 out!
Post by: apply85 on November 06, 2011, 05:40:35 PM
lol, look at white widow begging to get off the list, I never offended anyone I never kissed ur ass plzplz take me off list, that is hilarious because what makes ww deserve to be on the list is the same thing to make him beg for mercy, his cowardice. I love the way gh15 operates, I pointed out earlier what he wants to do is for you to consider him not as a person but an idea, he supernaturalized himself, he mythologizes the gh15 entity and the only people who are susceptible to this are of course weak ass cowards like ww. I love that gh15 knows this lol

ww and cowards like him have it coming, they simply are worth nothing, not because 15 said so but because they themselves say so. I mentioned this in a thread the got deleted, but remember the scene where omar kills sevino, omar is a fallen angel as well, love that motherfucking show, watch that scene over and over and over again ww and you may understand what you do wrong, of course that you understand matters not because cowards are animals and they do what suits them when it suits them.

here's another way to describe a coward. A nest of baby birds, one gets big and gets fed more often because he reaches mama bird easier, one day he goes oops pushes his brother out the nest, that bird did what suited it when it suitedit, that bird is an animal and some people behave this way, they are what I call cowards and they live on what people with courage give them for their allegiance, but when the allegiance is over the coward only walks away when he is still on the up and up, when he is not in a game where people get actually hurt over mistakes, if he is int he game then he gets a bullet in the back of the head, he is not allowed to walk away
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Howard on November 08, 2011, 01:26:03 PM
You're the clown. What are you saying, that you would've turned pro on that "150mg Winstrol a week for 6 weeks" stack had you had the "raw talent"? You never gave it a real shot and now you're preaching mediocrity to everyone else.

Your excuse is you didn't have the talent. But you don't know since you never really tried. Turning pro is hard but you might have had some regional or state titles at least. Now you have nothing and want the same for everyone else.

Give us your "reasonable" level of drug use for a state title winner. Let's see if it's what most state level winners use. Give us the reasonable level of drug use for local/state/regional/national levels. Let's see what you deem rational and healthy.
I had enough basic sense to see I was going nowhere in terms of a pro career, as I got into the drug side of bodybuilding.
I never made excuses and was willing to admit I lacked the basic genetic talent and/or drive to be a pro.
I really don't know or care what the avg regional NPC winner takes.
I only know what I did and that is all that really matters to me.
My own bodybuilding has had little to no involvement with drugs.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:34:19 PM
I had enough basic sense to see I was going nowhere in terms of a pro career, as I got into the drug side of bodybuilding.
I never made excuses and was willing to admit I lacked the basic genetic talent and/or drive to be a pro.
I really don't know or care what the avg regional NPC winner takes.
I only know what I did and that is all that really matters to me.
My own bodybuilding has had little to no involvement with drugs.
I`ve seen contest pics of Howard and he had a damn good physique.

I think he could have gone much farther with it if he trained longer (more years) and upped the dosage.

He even looked good as a natty.

I hate his fucking repetitive posts,but he is a good guy.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 08, 2011, 02:43:47 PM
I`ve seen contest pics of Howard and he had a damn good physique.

I think he could have gone much farther with it if he trained longer (more years) and upped the dosage.

He even looked good as a natty.

I hate his fucking repetitive posts,but he is a good guy.
Thanks so much for the kind words about me and my physique.
In all modesty I held my own useing little to no drugs, against guys who honestly told me they were juiced to the gills.
In UNtested shows you realize some guys will use and you compete on your own terms. That was fine with me.
If it is worth it to you, to spend that money and take the risk with drugs, have at it.
In over 40 shows and 16 years on the stage I never felt cheated or screwed over by any judges decision.
I did bodybuilding on my terms and was man enough to live with the result with no excuses or complaints.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: gh15 on November 08, 2011, 02:55:11 PM
I`ve seen contest pics of Howard and he had a damn good physique.

I think he could have gone much farther with it if he trained longer (more years) and upped the dosage.

He even looked good as a natty.

I hate his fucking repetitive posts,but he is a good guy.

 i see picture of him too ....forest did look good,, this is not the point,, the point is that he twist my words,, he say i say only 5'11 150 all this twisting,, no i did not! i keep say the natural limits i said and they are specific numbers,, also he say only probodybuild use mega dose or specififc products and i say everyone does! you have to get to be profesional somehow right?

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 03:08:34 PM
Thanks so much for the kind words about me and my physique.
In all modesty I held my own useing little to no drugs, against guys who honestly told me they were juiced to the gills.
In UNtested shows you realize some guys will use and you compete on your own terms. That was fine with me.
If it is worth it to you, to spend that money and take the risk with drugs, have at it.
In over 40 shows and 16 years on the stage I never felt cheated or screwed over by any judges decision.
I did bodybuilding on my terms and was man enough to live with the result with no excuses or complaints.
This is true........there are tons of guys who megadose that would not have beaten Howard on stage.

then there are others who use less that would have beaten him,...............just the way it is.......genetics and response to gear goes a long way.
Title: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Xerxes on November 08, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
What's next for the future of getbig?


(http://i42.tinypic.com/2el48qt.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2el48qt.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2el48qt.jpg)


I heard that ironneck dude is gonna get on a cycle, I suggest we worship this iron warrior

discuss
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: ChristopherA on November 08, 2011, 04:11:26 PM
Bring back the Squad!!! Fucking loudmouth newbs running wild around this bitch!!
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: makaveli25 on November 08, 2011, 04:12:10 PM
Gh15 basically outlined how to become a pro through thousands of posts for free. Take it for what it's worth. The man will always be a getbig legend.
















Titonas!!!!

Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Fury on November 08, 2011, 04:12:32 PM
Xerxes, can you take the IronTurk in a fight? He needs gear just to hit the 150 lb. mark.
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Xerxes on November 08, 2011, 04:18:07 PM
Xerxes, can you take the IronTurk in a fight? He needs gear just to hit the 150 lb. mark.

Ironwarrior is a stud who benches 120kg and deadlifts 200kg, I can not compare  :'(

Gh15 basically outlined how to become a pro through thousands of posts for free. Take it for what it's worth. The man will always be a getbig legend.


Sure he can have a e-trophy

Bring back the Squad!!! Fucking loudmouth newbs running wild around this bitch!!

Yeaaah bring back The Union of Permabulkers
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 04:21:10 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401663.0;attach=440688;image)

The pink plaid clashes with here eyes.
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 08, 2011, 04:40:46 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401663.0;attach=440688;image)

The pink plaid clashes with here eyes.

You sure it's not clashing with there eyes?
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Howard on November 08, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
GH15 will go down as an internet forum legend and an all time favorite here at getbig.com
I didn't agree with his limited views on drug free training, but found his drug cyle advice interesting.
I only know "steroids 101" basic so I am cluelss about how effective his drug advice was.
Gh15 is interesting and entertaining, on sterodis and other topics. That is more then I can say for me and most others that post on here.

I hope he keeps posting :)
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Wiggs on November 08, 2011, 05:09:53 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401663.0;attach=440688;image)

The pink plaid clashes with here eyes.

Gentlemen, do you know what I'd do to have this?  Well, lets say there isn't too much I wouldn't do to have this broad indef...WOW oh WOW....This is the stuff dreams are made of.... :P :P :P
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 08, 2011, 05:11:30 PM
i see picture of him too ....forest did look good,, this is not the point,, the point is that he twist my words,, he say i say only 5'11 150 all this twisting,, no i did not! i keep say the natural limits i said and they are specific numbers,, also he say only probodybuild use mega dose or specififc products and i say everyone does! you have to get to be profesional somehow right?

gh15 approved

Thanks for the kind words Gh15. I admit I only have a basic knowledge of drugs in BB and don't claim more then that.
I do know what I was able to do on little to no drugs and in all modesty it far exceeded your limits posted here on the board.
Since I was above avg at best I don't think my size was anything UNreal or too special.

I actually enjoy your posts GH15 and look fwd to many more.
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Galvatron on November 08, 2011, 05:11:53 PM
barbara streisand nose


















yummy
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 05:12:34 PM
I`d marry that broad if I wasn`t already married.  :(
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Galvatron on November 08, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
wes move to saudi arabia   :D

Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
wes move to saudi arabia   :D


Good idea.  :)
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Galvatron on November 08, 2011, 05:16:16 PM
any more pics of that little cutie?

I think i need to print that pic and cum on it
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
any more pics of that little cutie?

I think i need to print that pic and cum on it
I beat you to it!  ;D
Title: Re: So now that we've established gh15 is full of shit
Post by: Galvatron on November 08, 2011, 05:22:02 PM
Title: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 11:32:23 AM
Only the dumbest of the dumb will continue thinking this bullshit artist is for real.
Title: Attention GH15
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 09, 2011, 11:34:48 AM
Jose Claymond is calling you out @6:25  ;D

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/trenches/4171-jose-raymond-trains-gf-toni-perdikakis-for-npc-figure-nationals.html
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Dipadidu on November 09, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
Only the dumbest of the dumb will continue thinking this bullshit artist is for real.

Now we're only here to read your phenomenal training advices!! ::)
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: TrueGrit on November 09, 2011, 11:36:28 AM
I just talked to someone I know who is a senior figure in the CIA - yes, really, I don't lie about this serious stuff -and he confirmed that gh15 from the internet HAS been pulling strings with Homeland Security to keep Vic in the country... So not everyone on GB with powerful government connections is talking shit.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: njanvi on November 09, 2011, 11:44:54 AM
I just talked to someone I know who is a senior figure in the CIA - yes, really, I don't lie about this serious stuff -and he confirmed that gh15 from the internet HAS been pulling strings with Homeland Security to keep Vic in the country... So not everyone on GB with powerful government connections is talking shit.

You'll be happy to know that my guy at NSA said the same
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: _bruce_ on November 09, 2011, 11:48:31 AM
I just talked to someone I know who is a senior figure in the CIA - yes, really, I don't lie about this serious stuff -and he confirmed that gh15 from the internet HAS been pulling strings with Homeland Security to keep Vic in the country... So not everyone on GB with powerful government connections is talking shit.

Agree. Mossad intel acknowledges this.
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 09, 2011, 11:59:54 AM
"Chick" is an abomination
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 12:13:45 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: littlechris on November 09, 2011, 12:17:33 PM
OMG!! Just saw the video,This is gonna get UGLY for Jose.

-C
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Reeves on November 09, 2011, 12:17:55 PM
Only the dumbest of the dumb will continue thinking this bullshit artist is for real.

Easy there, "short school bus, dark windows". 
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: Papper on November 09, 2011, 12:22:27 PM
OMG!! Just saw the video,This is gonna get UGLY for Jose.

-C

Are you saying he's going to get cut off hormonally?
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: apply85 on November 09, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
overtraing legs so they don't gorw anymore.. uh huh
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: the trainer on November 09, 2011, 12:29:12 PM
Jose Claymond is calling you out @6:25  ;D

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/trenches/4171-jose-raymond-trains-gf-toni-perdikakis-for-npc-figure-nationals.html

Jose does not know what he is getting into, with one phone call gh15 can have secret service guys from dc knocking on his door. every dealer on the planet will refuse to sell him roids and if gh15 gets really mad he might even get banned from buying food at the supermarkets, I feel sorry for jose.
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: BiGHer on November 09, 2011, 12:31:03 PM
What's funny is that people get at gh15, but then more pro's pop up referencing him.  

That was funny though.  I'm curious how many everyday viewers watched that, caught when he said gh15, and actually knew what he was talking about.
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 12:49:33 PM
Gh15 has screwed up royally with this Washington nonsense. He can never return to his previous level of credibility. That includes the half dozen morons who believed him.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 04:06:36 PM
Gh15 is a trainwreck. And he keeps on posting about the strings he pulled in Washington to keep a NYC latino drug dealer in the country.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: yates fan on November 09, 2011, 04:11:45 PM
who is jeff rock?
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: danabol on November 09, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
I just talked to someone I know who is a senior figure in the CIA - yes, really, I don't lie about this serious stuff -and he confirmed that gh15 from the internet HAS been pulling strings with Homeland Security to keep Vic in the country... So not everyone on GB with powerful government connections is talking shit.

yes yes...had a word with MI21 and they siad the same.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 09, 2011, 04:12:37 PM
Who gives a fuck. GH15 has forgotten more about bb'ing than most people here will ever know and learn. So, truly ... WHO GIVES A FUCK !


FAILED THREAD !!
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Nirvana on November 09, 2011, 04:15:52 PM
just got off the phone with Nasser. 
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 04:15:57 PM
I see your one of the morons who believes gh15 has ever even lifted weight. You really are an ass.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 04:16:55 PM
Here he is out to make a hit on some poor unsuspecting soul on his "list" !

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/046/8/e/Secret_Squirrel_by_OBJECTIVE.jpg)


"The Squirrel Mafia" that gh15 belongs to is just a bit nutty!!

(http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/0aa219d54bfb49a168b5fe9e63912656/http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/WB2006/secret_squirrel2.jpg)
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Reeves on November 09, 2011, 04:19:05 PM
I see your one of the morons who believes gh15 has ever even lifted weight. You really are an ass.

Not for any other reason than because I want to, but fuck off.  And because I mean it, no "smiley".
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 04:24:01 PM
And I care about what a sissy like you thinks because....?
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 04:29:33 PM
Who gives a fuck. GH15 has forgotten more about bb'ing than most people here will ever know and learn. So, truly ... WHO GIVES A FUCK !

FAILED THREAD !!

Umm, for the record, your girlfriend fucks other men. So why would you think your opinion on anything counts?

the gh15 "legacy" is taking one last swirl around the toilet bowl.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: claymore on November 09, 2011, 04:38:17 PM
Only the dumbest of the dumb will continue thinking this bullshit artist is for real.

Agreed...but they will.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Reeves on November 09, 2011, 04:44:06 PM
And I care about what a sissy like you thinks because....?

Again, little man so that you may better understand me.  Go chase your tail.  You'd be in over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool you miserable fuck.  Now, go give your mother a break and take your turn sucking your fathers cock.

You pusillanimous child of iniquity. 
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 09, 2011, 05:09:23 PM
Umm, for the record, your girlfriend fucks other men. So why would you think your opinion on anything counts?

the gh15 "legacy" is taking one last swirl around the toilet bowl.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Again, little man so that you may better understand me.  Go chase your tail.  You'd be in over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool you miserable fuck.  Now, go give your mother a break and take your turn sucking your fathers cock.

You pusillanimous child of iniquity.  
Damn Reeves I gotta` break out my fucking thesaurus and my dictionary bro!  ;D
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 05:14:12 PM
He uses vocabulary words no differently then any convict with a prison GED and a dictionary. A wimpy, stupid man.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: theheman on November 09, 2011, 05:15:38 PM
Why all this hate for gh15?  He is a very helpful person.  If you can't fathom the idea that he lives an extraordinary life that's your own fault.  All of you guys please stop hating on gh15.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Reeves on November 09, 2011, 05:24:28 PM
He uses vocabulary words no differently then any convict with a prison GED and a dictionary. A wimpy, stupid man.

You ignorant punk. You type.  I write.  Get it? Got it? Good.  Now then...

You speak with all the familiarity of one that has been in prison, do you not?  Surely you know what it is to be another man's "bitch" and in a "Matrix" sort of way I have easily and with little effort made you mine.

In the real world I would hurt you.  I spent my entire youth battling mental eunuchs like you and turning them into school yard supplicants you pathetic waste of DNA.   I may be small but you're a dumb mother fucker.  And tomorrow?

I'll still be a short guy.  You?  You will live out your miserable existence as that dumber mother fucker of a failed insemination experiment.  The product of a mindless evening of passion between two close relatives coupled with a decade or more of arduous drug ingestion. 

You've just been mind fucked, ace.  Now then.  Go before I taunt you again.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: jude2 on November 09, 2011, 05:29:30 PM
Why all this hate for gh15?  He is a very helpful person.  If you can't fathom the idea that he lives an extraordinary life that's your own fault.  All of you guys please stop hating on gh15.
Don't worry u will be alright.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
I think god may be sobbing into his pillow as we speak!   :'(
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Big N on November 09, 2011, 06:01:28 PM
Now we're only here to read your phenomenal training advices!! ::)


 ;D
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: WillGrant on November 09, 2011, 06:04:09 PM
Only the dumbest of the dumb will continue thinking this bullshit artist is for real.
Your other cunt gimmick enjoying time out fuck face  :D
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 06:10:48 PM
I did not mean to offend you, just that Lex creature.  As for God.  If God does indeed exist, then surely he hates me.  And I have the proof.  Good night for now, sir!
When I said God,I was referring to gh15!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Attention GH15
Post by: Big N on November 09, 2011, 06:20:49 PM
Jose Claymond is calling you out @6:25  ;D

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/trenches/4171-jose-raymond-trains-gf-toni-perdikakis-for-npc-figure-nationals.html

Yes sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: njanvi on November 09, 2011, 07:01:50 PM
I see your one of the morons who believes gh15 has ever even lifted weight. You really are an ass.

What if gh15 is really Arnold??
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dyslexic on November 09, 2011, 07:53:03 PM
When I said God,I was referring to gh15!  LOL  ;D

It must have been the use of the capital "G" ??
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2011, 07:56:42 PM
Gh15 is a trainwreck. And he keeps on posting about the strings he pulled in Washington to keep a NYC latino drug dealer in the country.

i do it for someone else not for him ,, i do it for the relative ,, i have nothign to gain from it ,, remember before i put something i think well if to put it ,, this one is something that i agreed to take ,,i also mention how hard the case is ...but then again you are gimick true one lol and we all know how the gimick thing works,,

see the great thing about gh15 is ...im not a gimick ,, as simple as that ,, i simply under one account all the  years and say truth,, this is what got me up there and this is what will keep me up there

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
You're an idiot who has never even really lifted weights.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2011, 08:15:18 PM
You're an idiot who has never even really lifted weights.

saying the wanna be gym rat to a top 6 olympian that actualy place higiher than top 6...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 08:28:01 PM
You're an anonymous asshole.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dustin on November 09, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
You're an anonymous asshole.

Who cares if he posts anonymously? He's larger, more successful and more knowledgeable than you. You're a retard.

Have you even posted pictures of yourself?
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: illwill on November 09, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
Personally, I don't care if GH15 makes threads saying he is Tupac reincarnated.  Who fuckin cares really?  It's the fuckin internet.

All I care about is if he continues to give us the truth behind the culture.     Dress like Ronald McDonald if you want to.  It don't matter.   Just give us the truth and don't feed the trolls.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 08:43:40 PM
Personally, I don't care if GH15 makes threads saying he is Tupac reincarnated.  Who fuckin cares really?  It's the fuckin internet.

All I care about is if he continues to give us the truth behind the culture.     Dress like Ronald McDonald if you want to.  It don't matter.   Just give us the truth and don't feed the trolls.
His truth is simple,up the dosage and do certain compounds....groundbreak ing shit.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: illwill on November 09, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
His truth is simple,up the dosage and do certain compounds....groundbreak ing shit.

Cmon. You seem like a smart dude.  You know it's more than just that.   

If it WAS just that, than Author L Rea's books would be as popular as GH15 is.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dyslexic on November 09, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
Who cares if he posts anonymously? He's larger, more successful and more knowledgeable than you. You're a retard.

Have you even posted pictures of yourself?

And you know this how? You just admitted he's anonymous....WTF?


Has he even posted pictures of himself?


You, my friend just validated your parking in the "retard" section.  
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 08:49:15 PM
I haven`t had this much fun on any board in years.

The board is jumping.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dustin on November 09, 2011, 08:50:36 PM
His truth is simple,up the dosage and do certain compounds....groundbreak ing shit.

You know what's ironic? This seemingly simple advice is exactly what we need. You've been around the game long enough to know that bodybuilding is saturated with insurmountable bro science and gym lore. Someone needs to debunk it and hammer it in our stupid pea brains though.

You've seen the cookie cutter steroid cycles, the bro's advising everyone to do this and that for their PCTs so matter-of-factly, the Dantas and Nortroms recommending that you use a literal ton of supplements otherwise you'll amount to NOTHING (and these fuckers will rant for pages and pages. Nortrom even has a PhD in protein synthesis just to push his shit). It's enough to make someone's head spin. And I bet like myself, you've probably eaten so much chicken and broccoli it could make your head spin.

So you see, we need gh15. He doesn't need us. We go to him for advices for a reason.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: illwill on November 09, 2011, 08:51:24 PM
lol maybe that's it.  all fun & games, I suppose.  But if GH15 decides to stop posting on getbig this board will turn into a ghost town.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 08:53:04 PM
You know what's ironic? This seemingly simple advice is exactly what we need. You've been around the game long enough to know that bodybuilding is saturated with insurmountable bro science and gym lore. Someone needs to debunk it and hammer it in our stupid pea brains though.

You've seen the cookie cutter steroid cycles, the bro's advising everyone to do this and that for their PCTs so matter-of-factly, the Dantas and Nortroms recommending that you use a literal ton of supplements otherwise you'll amount to NOTHING (and these fuckers will rant for pages and pages. Nortrom even has a PhD in protein synthesis just to push his shit). It's enough to make someone's head spin. And I bet like myself, you've probably eaten so much chicken and broccoli it could make your head spin.

So you see, we need gh15. He doesn't need us. We go to him for advices for a reason.

None of that is necessary though.
I totally agree bro.........seriously,but lately he has just gone off the edge with his self importance.

Too bad the word humble is not in his vocabulary.  :(
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 08:53:19 PM
Like I've been saying, there's about half a dozen dipshits who believe in this idiot. Don't bother trying to change their minds cause they're as soft as a sneaker full of puppy shit.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
lol maybe that's it.  all fun & games, I suppose.  But if GH15 decides to stop posting on getbig this board will turn into a ghost town.
You could be right,but he just needs to tone down his own self proiclaimed importance..it gets old fast listening to him toot his own horn.

We all need and like validation at times,it`s an ego driven sport/pastime,but he goes overboard.

Just my opinion,but it is shared by many after his last remark about getting Vic out and his upper echelon connections.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dustin on November 09, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
I totally agree bro.........seriously,but lately he has just gone off the edge with his self importance.

Too bad the word humble is not in his vocabulary.  :(

Yep, I can see where you're coming from. I have no comment on recent events. It's too easy to engage in the internet blabbering and it's less and less becoming for all parties the further it's carried. After a few savage ownings I usually retreat and call it a day lol

Don't need to fuck up my street cred here. 8)
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2011, 08:56:37 PM
Like I've been saying, there's about half a dozen dipshits who believe in this idiot. Don't bother trying to change their minds cause they're as soft as a sneaker full of puppy shit.

you confused your sentence a little tiny bit....

theere are half a dozen who DO NOT believe in gh15...and they show themselves ,, and no wes is not one of them ,, they are the gimick that go on the same 4-5-6 gimicks,,

and by the way ,, what dustin wrote there..this is why gh15 was worth it ,, because it helped the ones who needed it,, the ones who didnt havethe hook ups,, the ones who spend all their money on balonie ,, the ones who were easy to fool because they didnt have anyone to show them the way ....this is why gh15 was created

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
Yep, I can see where you're coming from. I have no comment on recent events. It's too easy to engage in the internet blabbering and it's less and less becoming for all parties the further it's carried. After a few savage ownings I usually retreat and call it a day lol

Don't need to fuck up my street cred here. 8)
Ya` know,I never bothered the guy then he fucks with me relentlessly out of a clear blue sky because I doubted his Homeland Security schtick.

fucking guy`s losing it.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2011, 08:58:48 PM
you know what i take it back ,, there are not even half a dozen who dont believe in gh15,, i think everyone believs gh15 but they want some drama for many reasons,, i dont think there is any sane bodybuilder that lok at what i say and says ...nah this is just lies,, i dont think there is

they try to sell you balonie supplements this is the main reason they fight gh15

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
Ya` know,I never bothered the guy then he fucks with me relentlessly out of a clear blue sky because I doubted his Homeland Security schtick.

fucking guy`s losing it.

i talk to anyone,, i have no fear ,, notice i always answer and i never just go away ,, this is me ,, this is just how i am ,, how do you think i got to my position by being a pussy? i answer ,, especialy when what i say is truth ,, all i said was i made a phoine call to homeland dc,, and i did

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 09:01:38 PM
you know what i take it back ,, there are not even half a dozen who dont believe in gh15,, i think everyone believs gh15 but they want some drama for many reasons,, i dont think there is any sane bodybuilder that lok at what i say and says ...nah this is just lies,, i dont think there is

they try to sell you balonie supplements this is the main reason they fight gh15

gh15 approved
You`re drug info is great.......your other self proclaimed greatness is in two words,fucked up!
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 09:03:48 PM
i talk to anyone,, i have no fear ,, notice i always answer and i never just go away ,, this is me ,, this is just how i am ,, how do you think i got to my position by being a pussy? i answer ,, especialy when what i say is truth ,, all i said was i made a phoine call to homeland dc,, and i did

gh15 approved
I`m no pussy either that`s why I debate you no problem, no punches pulled, and would do the same in person.

Been around to long to fear getting my ass kicked.....been hit by experts and still hanging and banging.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dustin on November 09, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
you confused your sentence a little tiny bit....

theere are half a dozen who DO NOT believe in gh15...and they show themselves ,, and no wes is not one of them ,, they are the gimick that go on the same 4-5-6 gimicks,,

and by the way ,, what dustin wrote there..this is why gh15 was worth it ,, because it helped the ones who needed it,, the ones who didnt havethe hook ups,, the ones who spend all their money on balonie ,, the ones who were easy to fool because they didnt have anyone to show them the way ....this is why gh15 was created

gh15 approved

This point is especially important. I admit that I was a FUCKING idiot and spent dozens of thousands on supplements. I was a buck thirty spending hundreds of dollars a month on chicken breast for fuck sakes. When you have guys like Nortrom with his PhD telling you that you need to eat every two hours and slam tons of amino acid shakes, wouldn't it be stupid not to take his advice? After all, a natural bodybuilder with an education and a physique like that being plugged in the magazines, on websites and at expos.

Unfortunately, it's a collusion. The industry is there to take advantage of suckers like me. I was all too desperate to get big, and now I've spent a 1/10th of that on some gear and look light years ahead of anything I could attain naturally. If only I knew these advices earlier, I would have spent those thousands of dollaroos on GH and would have been 20lbs heavier.

All is not lost though. We live and learn. I learned an expensive lesson and never give poor advices to beginners. I give them the straight facts and let them know what they can attain natural, and advise them if their aim is anything higher they'll need to start looking at juicing. It's better to give to them straight so they can put in the hard time and work as a natural and see how far they want to take it. No need to take the poor saps money and let them waste thousands of hours in the gym and in the kitchen.

/rant
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2011, 09:05:37 PM
You`re drug info is great.......your other self proclaimed greatness is in two words,fucked up!

and yet i did! call homeland dc ,, and he is another 3 months in americana ,, the story wil come out and if not then it doesnt matter to me at the end the ones who need to know who did what know,, his case as i said is very hard they want him out i did whatever i could and im know to ot like to failand i really have no shame so there will be more calls and lots of vitamin p called vitamin push... the one thing that stand for him is that my fella there is jew and jew usualy deliver ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: jude2 on November 09, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
saying the wanna be gym rat to a top 6 olympian that actualy place higiher than top 6...

gh15 approved
Another clue, he placed top 5 at the O. ???
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 09:09:40 PM
gh15? Joe Paterno here, can ya help a brotha out?
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on November 09, 2011, 09:10:32 PM
He placed top five in stupidity.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 09:11:48 PM
This point is especially important. I admit that I was a FUCKING idiot and spent dozens of thousands on supplements. I was a buck thirty spending hundreds of dollars a month on chicken breast for fuck sakes. When you have guys like Nortrom with his PhD telling you that you need to eat every two hours and slam tons of amino acid shakes, wouldn't it be stupid not to take his advice? After all, a natural bodybuilder with an education and a physique like that being plugged in the magazines, on websites and at expos.

Unfortunately, it's a collusion. The industry is there to take advantage of suckers like me. I was all too desperate to get big, and now I've spent a 1/10th of that on some gear and look light years ahead of anything I could attain naturally. If only I knew these advices earlier, I would have spent those thousands of dollaroos on GH and would have been 20lbs heavier.

All is not lost though. We live and learn. I learned an expensive lesson and never give poor advices to beginners. I give them the straight facts and let them know what they can attain natural, and advise them if their aim is anything higher they'll need to start looking at juicing. It's better to give to them straight so they can put in the hard time and work as a natural and see how far they want to take it. No need to take the poor saps money and let them waste thousands of hours in the gym and in the kitchen.

/rant
We all did this.......too bad we believed the hype in the magazines huh?  :(

Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: dustin on November 09, 2011, 09:13:10 PM
We all did this.......too bad we believed the hype in the magazines huh?  :(



Yeah, dude... I was fresh out of the gate with an MD magazine in one hand and a brand new credit card in the other. Recipe for fucking disaster! :-\
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 09:14:11 PM
Yeah, dude... I was fresh out of the gate with an MD magazine in one hand and a brand new credit card in the other. Recipe for fucking disaster! :-\
Been there,done that,until I met the right guys who set me straight.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: Secret Stack on November 11, 2011, 08:33:40 AM
You`re drug info is great.

great or "groundbreaking shit"  ???

His truth is simple,up the dosage and do certain compounds....groundbreak ing shit.
Title: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: goomba420 on November 12, 2011, 11:41:14 AM
ANYONE can make one! And no you ARENOT the only fictional character with one, ever hear of movie characters or YouTube stars?
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: el numero uno on November 12, 2011, 11:42:08 AM
link? I can't find the article
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: goomba420 on November 12, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
link? I can't find the article

Isn't up yet but he brags about how there is an article in the making.  As if it takes any effort
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 12, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
You're living on the edge, Goombaya, gh15 will put you on The List..... :o
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 12, 2011, 02:35:43 PM
i think you fellas are nuts,, i dont responsible for anything writen about me on internet,, its all pupils and followers,, i dont do a thing about those things,, reason i mentioned wikopedia is because you have to be someone to get on there...you have to because....it has to be verified and my pupils insist on putting gh15 there,, so yes star movie all that they did something to be there...and gh15 according to what i been told wil be there too,, i dont do those things,, i never did facebook gh15 ,, i never did myspace gh15,, i neveer anything on internet about gh15,, everything done about gh15 from fan club to wikopedia is pupils work,,

i never even know when its done for no body tell me,, the rumors i get about myself everyday is more than i myself know about myself,, i have nothing to do with any project about gh15 done aside from thunderdome where i am gh15 ofcourse

i just became bigger than a boarding,, this is the main reason i suspect

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2011, 02:38:55 PM
;D
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: el numero uno on November 12, 2011, 02:39:21 PM
Fuck off gh15 haters. If you don't like him don't read his post!  :D
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Borracho on November 12, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
Why even feel the need to explain yourself??

You do have a large following and I'm sure a lot of people would wear your underwear around their head with the crotch backwards skid marks and all if they had a chance.
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 12, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
Growth Hormone 15 black.
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: dustin on November 12, 2011, 04:16:40 PM
ANYONE can make one! And no you ARENOT the only fictional character with one, ever hear of movie characters or YouTube stars?

Watch that fucking mouth of yours, goomba420! >:(
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: TRIX on November 12, 2011, 04:19:37 PM
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gh15

Gh15
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gh15 is a mental patient who is known troughout the bodybuilding community for his incoherent and non-sensical ramblings.
edit Biography

He was sent to a mental ward around his 30th birthday when he started seeing things. He was intitutionalized with a diagnosis of shizophrenia. Some people say he was abducted by aliens, who conducted mind experiments on his brain.

Recently he had aquired a computer and internet access in his hostital room, which enabled him to post on the GetBig forums, establishing himself as a cult-status poster, who has many admirers (most of them from the same hospital). He usually posts bodybuilding related advice about steroids and hormones, unfortunally due to a stroke he had in 2007 his English skills have taken a nose-dive, which rendered his postings incomprehensible.
edit Carrer as CIA adviser

He was hired as a CIA adviser in the early 90's. He is one of USA's most valuable assets, many presidents have turned to him throught the years for bodybuilding and drugs advice

LOL
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 12, 2011, 04:20:49 PM
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gh15

Gh15
From Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia.
Jump to: navigation, search

gh15 is a mental patient who is known troughout the bodybuilding community for his incoherent and non-sensical ramblings.
edit Biography

He was sent to a mental ward around his 30th birthday when he started seeing things. He was intitutionalized with a diagnosis of shizophrenia. Some people say he was abducted by aliens, who conducted mind experiments on his brain.

Recently he had aquired a computer and internet access in his hostital room, which enabled him to post on the GetBig forums, establishing himself as a cult-status poster, who has many admirers (most of them from the same hospital). He usually posts bodybuilding related advice about steroids and hormones, unfortunally due to a stroke he had in 2007 his English skills have taken a nose-dive, which rendered his postings incomprehensible.
edit Carrer as CIA adviser

He was hired as a CIA adviser in the early 90's. He is one of USA's most valuable assets, many presidents have turned to him throught the years for bodybuilding and drugs advice

LOL

Lmfao
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Borracho on November 12, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: el numero uno on November 12, 2011, 04:27:51 PM
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gh15

Gh15
From Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia.
Jump to: navigation, search

gh15 is a mental patient who is known troughout the bodybuilding community for his incoherent and non-sensical ramblings.
edit Biography

He was sent to a mental ward around his 30th birthday when he started seeing things. He was intitutionalized with a diagnosis of shizophrenia. Some people say he was abducted by aliens, who conducted mind experiments on his brain.

Recently he had aquired a computer and internet access in his hostital room, which enabled him to post on the GetBig forums, establishing himself as a cult-status poster, who has many admirers (most of them from the same hospital). He usually posts bodybuilding related advice about steroids and hormones, unfortunally due to a stroke he had in 2007 his English skills have taken a nose-dive, which rendered his postings incomprehensible.
edit Carrer as CIA adviser

He was hired as a CIA adviser in the early 90's. He is one of USA's most valuable assets, many presidents have turned to him throught the years for bodybuilding and drugs advice

LOL

LMAO, I admit is funny but here's a serious one

http://www.facebook.com/pages/GH15-God-Of-Hormones-GetBigcom/121862557917420
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Galvatron on November 12, 2011, 04:43:08 PM
haha
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: dyslexic on November 12, 2011, 09:30:23 PM
Here we go again.


Anybody here want their own Wiki page? Lemme know, I'll put one up for ya and make you feel like you are a "Somebody" ~ don't need nothing but B.S about you. True, not true, likeable or totally hated.


Doesn't matter. There is no disgression on Wiki. As I stated before, all you have to do is register, just like Youtube or facebook or what the fk ever.
Title: Re: Amusing watching gh15 unravel
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 12, 2011, 09:53:51 PM
Yeah, dude... I was fresh out of the gate with an MD magazine in one hand and a brand new credit card in the other. Recipe for fucking disaster! :-\

md is open about steroids... there are in-depth articles every month about steroids. what were you looking at? the advertisements? :-\
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 12, 2011, 10:22:02 PM
Here we go again.


Anybody here want their own Wiki page? Lemme know, I'll put one up for ya and make you feel like you are a "Somebody" ~ don't need nothing but B.S about you. True, not true, likeable or totally hated.


Doesn't matter. There is no disgression on Wiki. As I stated before, all you have to do is register, just like Youtube or facebook or what the fk ever.

wrong,, you lie! like other lies you do you lie abotu this too! ,, according to elfs it need to be approved by wikopedia administration  for published,, need evidence support of many to back up what siad about one ,, need to actualy be important enough to have one,, so you lie! just like you lie about the status of your arms ,, jus t like you lie about usage of trenbolona ,, juswt like you like about other things that 5'6 fellas wont ever be physicaly with out hormone usage and constitancy with its addicition ,, you just lie which is interesting because you start sounding like forest especialy with your humour ,, very weird akeward briuging it into as much posting as you can ,, similar ot forest but you still lie!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: hangclean on November 12, 2011, 10:30:31 PM
wrong,, you lie! like other lies you do you lie abotu this too! ,, according to elfs it need to be approved by wikopedia administration  for published,, need evidence support of many to back up what siad about one ,, need to actualy be important enough to have one,, so you lie! just like you lie about the status of your arms ,, jus t like you lie about usage of trenbolona ,, juswt like you like about other things that 5'6 fellas wont ever be physicaly with out hormone usage and constitancy with its addicition ,, you just lie which is interesting because you start sounding like forest especialy with your humour ,, very weird akeward briuging it into as much posting as you can ,, similar ot forest but you still lie!

gh15 approved
nah, dude.  anyone can make a wikepidia article about themselves. 
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 12, 2011, 10:59:43 PM
not acording to what i was told,, need to be backedup by quite few and they need to find it workd worthy to put there,, it needs to be important enough from what i know ,, but i dont knwo about this medium much so as i say im not sure,, this is what pupils said to me when sad tey wanted to put gh15 there,, in other words it need to be approved,, im talking abotu the real wikopedia...it need to be important enough to the world to be there and last ,, again this iis what ws told

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: newmom on November 12, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
I like your posts for the most part gh15
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'
Post by: climber on November 12, 2011, 11:33:39 PM
/thread

This shit's been going on forever and ever.

We all get it by now... you need 3g or thereabouts of hormones per week and 15 IU of GH per day along with Insulin with every meal or at least pre and post workout and decent genetics to become pro.

Thanks GH15. You can leave GetBig now... let it return to normal.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'
Post by: gh15 on November 13, 2011, 02:37:26 AM
it is normal,, you hget here bodybuild 101 truth in your face,, no where else you get it ,, where else do you get it? you have here right on information you wont find anywhere about serious bodybuilding,, you go to steroid.com you listen to thad dumb filt markus degrading and abusing power ayign all china gh is garbage when in reality the china gh kigtropin and hygetropin and nordic all are pharm grade equivalent,, especialy kigtropin ,, yet that coakroch lieing his teeth to so many bodybuild its disgusting,, here you get TRUTH ,, this make fellas go insane and keep the cult atleast somewhat on the healthy side and nto complete coreupted

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'
Post by: WillGrant on November 13, 2011, 03:05:02 AM
/thread

This shit's been going on forever and ever.

We all get it by now... you need 3g or thereabouts of hormones per week and 15 IU of GH per day along with Insulin with every meal or at least pre and post workout and decent genetics to become pro.

Thanks GH15. You can leave GetBig now... let it return to normal.
Who the fuck are you ?  ???

GH15 doesnt just give drug advice to us but loads more to, he brings the funny and has good sense on a huge range of topics plus he is honest.

You dont have to agree with everything he writes we all have this choice as humans and it would be pretty boring if we all agreed on the same things all the time , even though he is known for his truth and honesty regarding hormone and other drug use in BB he is part of the GB family and if you dont like it how about you fuck off out of here or the easier solution dont read his threads or posts but you cant do that cos you enjoy his posts like everyone else , even the haters cant go a day without reading his stuff cos they are hooked and he owns there minds otherwise they would ignore him  ;)
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 13, 2011, 03:43:43 AM
not acording to what i was told,, need to be backedup by quite few and they need to find it workd worthy to put there,, it needs to be important enough from what i know ,, but i dont knwo about this medium much so as i say im not sure,, this is what pupils said to me when sad tey wanted to put gh15 there,, in other words it need to be approved,, im talking abotu the real wikopedia...it need to be important enough to the world to be there and last ,, again this iis what ws told

gh15 approved

Go and try it yourself, anyone can put up an article. It then gets removed if it's trash.
Title: Re: Shut up with you and your 'wikopedia' gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 13, 2011, 04:23:46 AM
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/gallery/motiv-6/ty.jpg)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'
Post by: climber on November 13, 2011, 08:39:39 AM
Who the fuck are you ?  ???

GH15 doesnt just give drug advice to us but loads more to, he brings the funny and has good sense on a huge range of topics plus he is honest.

You dont have to agree with everything he writes we all have this choice as humans and it would be pretty boring if we all agreed on the same things all the time , even though he is known for his truth and honesty regarding hormone and other drug use in BB he is part of the GB family and if you dont like it how about you fuck off out of here or the easier solution dont read his threads or posts but you cant do that cos you enjoy his posts like everyone else , even the haters cant go a day without reading his stuff cos they are hooked and he owns there minds otherwise they would ignore him  ;)

I'm a 27 year old Bodybuilder from New Zealand, that's who I am. Do I need some sort of credentials or something to comment here?

Because before he came here GetBig wasn't all about drugs. Now it's turned into a shit hole. I'd  be happy enough if gh15's "advice" could be relegated to a specific section hidden away from the main parts of the forum. He turns people's view of bodybuilding into a cult, that's for sure, rather than a healthy and fun lifestyle choice.

Yes, I do use steroids and have for a number of years... but I don't see the need to have it, especially gh15's ramblings, as the main feature of the board - this is what it has become... it wouldn't be censorship to move his postings to another section of the board... it'd just  be good organisation.

I don't know how long you've been following this site, Will Grant, but I can tell you that it used to be a more fun place before all of this gh15 stuff took hold.
Title: Re: For the followers of GH15.
Post by: Big Worm on November 13, 2011, 09:08:36 AM
ummm most fellas here...dont give a fuck about pussy ,, they can get it with muscle and with out ,, most fellas here want to be bodybuild , live and breath it and want to be recognized as bodybuilders!,, pussy is easy to get they can get it with money and with personality and with good face and with anything ,, they can meet a girl online like all the other fellas now days,, most fellas here want to GET FROM POINT A TO B and LOOK ACTUALY LOOK like a bodybuilder

gh15 approved
As dumb as I think you are.... This is the most sense you've made,since you've been here.
Title: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 07:16:55 AM
http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/true-natural-bodybuilding.html

I made a thread about it once and you guys all either didn't want to comment or flat out pretended he was natural


why is that?


6' 220lbs 20" arms 12% bf


"yes I believe it" the replies were




wtf


(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilder-front-big.jpeg)

his training approach only further confirms he's juiced http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/jos-true-natural-bodybuilding-interview.html

(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: el numero uno on November 19, 2011, 07:21:15 AM
I think you can achieve that physique naturally but in his case he didn't. IDK, he looks like he's on something.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Ursus on November 19, 2011, 07:22:25 AM
He has thick biceps. Without them he would not look quite so impressive but I believe he is
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 07:22:50 AM
It's Joske from Belgium, guy's as natural as a cows ass.....
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 07:24:30 AM
It's Joske from Belgium, guy's as natural as a cows ass.....


You mean natural or enhanced then? What are you saying

it is 110000000% clear to me he is NOT NATURAL, his physique and training method are proof


and what is the relevance of his country anyway, they do actually have hormones around the world
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 07:28:04 AM
I think a cows ass is pretty natural, and so is Jos..
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 07:30:42 AM
I think a cows ass is pretty natural, and so is Jos..

pathetic if you really believe this
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 07:45:03 AM
pathetic if you really believe this
Thank you, you're always so friendly with me..
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 07:47:50 AM
Thank you, you're always so friendly with me..

I'm just pissed off because you also did this in the first thread I made about him. Just claiming he's natural because he's from a backward shithole next to loland

Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: howardroark on November 19, 2011, 08:01:23 AM
He doesn't have a juiced physique, if ya know what I mean. There's a different kind of look after you use steroids... like the muscle is more dense or something; it's difficult to explain. This guy... small chest, big bis. Overall good development for a natural trainee. A little too much bodyfat. This guy most likely is natural.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Nomad on November 19, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
6'0 - 220 12% without having done any deadlifts or squats.

Just another pretentious dipshit who wants to feel special by claiming natty. Watch him get all defensive as you start digging deep and clawing away at his "natty" status.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: el numero uno on November 19, 2011, 08:09:01 AM
I'm just pissed off because you also did this in the first thread I made about him. Just claiming he's natural because he's from a backward shithole next to loland



 :D
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 08:29:10 AM
Of course hes natural.  Only genetic pissants will belive hes a gearhead.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: howardroark on November 19, 2011, 08:30:26 AM
Of course hes natural.  Only genetic pissants will belive hes a gearhead.


Or people who don't know how to diet or train without gear.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 08:35:02 AM
Or people who don't know how to diet or train without gear.

Agreed. Its sad that so many dont see it as a lifestyle thing...only a part of their life. These kids want it all in 3 months. Theyre missing the point.. :-\
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 08:37:25 AM
I'm just pissed off because you also did this in the first thread I made about him. Just claiming he's natural because he's from a backward shithole next to loland


You're pissed because your own genetics suck and you know it.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: howardroark on November 19, 2011, 08:43:54 AM
Agreed. Its sad that so many dont see it as a lifestyle thing...only a part of their life. These kids want it all in 3 months. Theyre missing the point.. :-\

I have NO problem with people using steroids... however, when people go around and accusing others with COMPLETELY NATURAL physiques of using steroids, it angers me to no end.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 08:47:54 AM
I have NO problem with people using steroids... however, when people go around and accusing others with COMPLETELY NATURAL physiques of using steroids, it angers me to no end.
It doesn't anger me, I just think this guy is natural, he's not that lean...
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: howardroark on November 19, 2011, 08:54:35 AM
It doesn't anger me, I just think this guy is natural, he's not that lean...

Agreed... small pecs, not that lean. This guy is natural. If he's not, then he must be retarded for not achieving a good physique.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: theheman on November 19, 2011, 09:05:08 AM
To get that fullness in the biceps and to have the roundness to the shoulder requires synthetic testesterone.   If he isn't injecting then he for a fact is doing oral pro hormones.  Just because he may not inject steroids doesn't mean he is natural.

Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: aesthetics on November 19, 2011, 09:05:26 AM
http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/true-natural-bodybuilding.html

I made a thread about it once and you guys all either didn't want to comment or flat out pretended he was natural


why is that?


6' 220lbs 20" arms 12% bf


"yes I believe it" the replies were




wtf


(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilder-front-big.jpeg)

his training approach only further confirms he's juiced http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/jos-true-natural-bodybuilding-interview.html

(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)

"(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)"

yes this is the correct approach. you can't effectively deplete muscle glycogen stores unless you lift without eating, so his rationale is pretty silly but nonetheless he is correct in his training approach
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: el numero uno on November 19, 2011, 09:08:34 AM
A lot of hurt feelings in this thred, keep being naive, bodybuilding is surrounded by people who is full of shit. Just because they look natural, doesn't mean they are. I know a guy who started taking dianabol since his first week of training. He looked like shit but was he natural? Of course not.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
Agreed... small pecs, not that lean. This guy is natural. If he's not, then he must be retarded for not achieving a good physique.


Your saying that he qualifies as natural cuz hes not leaner? Getting lean is easiar than building the base muscle. He has the clay to mold it so adjusting diet would be an easy task. Some guys have rounded muscle bellies and look bigger with their shirt off than on. He has a good base.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: chess315 on November 19, 2011, 09:21:30 AM
I doubt he is natural...BUT as you allow your bf% to get higher you can carry a lot more muscle naturaly a lot more. Gh15 talks about naturals at 5%-8% higher bf levels change the game. YOU can carry a hell of a lot more muscle at 12-15% thats why you see true natural powerlifters with good lifts.  I know a lot about what a natural can do think that there are people that size natural. He is not bodybuilder lean.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Fury on November 19, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Looks good for a natural. Don't think those are 20" arms, though.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 09:37:15 AM
You're pissed because your own genetics suck and you know it.

My genetics don't suck at all you moron
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 09:40:23 AM
My genetics don't suck at all you moron


LOL. This place is hilarious.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 09:40:23 AM
Agreed. Its sad that so many dont see it as a lifestyle thing...only a part of their life. These kids want it all in 3 months. Theyre missing the point.. :-\

nice try but i've been lifting weights since I was 14 and I'm turning 24 in 3 months
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 09:42:21 AM
"(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)"

yes this is the correct approach. you can't effectively deplete muscle glycogen stores unless you lift without eating, so his rationale is pretty silly but nonetheless he is correct in his training approach
it's a well established fact that high reps and body part splits don't work for natural lifters


Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 09:42:37 AM
nice try but i've been lifting weights since I was 14 and I'm turning 24 in 3 months


Thats sad bro. Your hormone levels are high at that age. Why would you be screwing with gear? :-\
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 09:44:43 AM

Thats sad bro. Your hormone levels are high at that age. Why would you be screwing with gear? :-\

I never used hormones and that's why I am still 84-86kg bodyweight



anyway gh15 said you preferebly need to be on roids before my age if you want to achieve great size
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Ursus on November 19, 2011, 10:06:38 AM
Who knows if he is natural of not but that physique is certainly attainable naturally by some.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 10:10:41 AM
I never used hormones and that's why I am still 84-86kg bodyweight



anyway gh15 said you preferebly need to be on roids before my age if you want to achieve great size


Props to you man. And dont limit your thinking to wht others say. Figure a way around it and youll succeed. At least your gains are real and wont roller coaster up and down for life like gearheads. Mentally its a prison for them...going up in size and down in size. :-\
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: aesthetics on November 19, 2011, 10:23:51 AM
it's a well established fact that high reps and body part splits don't work for natural lifters




well established fact? doesn't look like it, merely conjecture on bodybuilding.com forums i bet

my best natural gains were this way btw, so i will have to completely and politely disagree
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 10:23:51 AM

Props to you man. And dont limit your thinking to wht others say. Figure a way around it and youll succeed. At least your gains are real and wont roller coaster up and down for life like gearheads. Mentally its a prison for them...going up in size and down in size. :-\

thanks, but I get soooooooooooooooo damn angry when I see lying roiders claim good genetics, hard work and dedication


they will imply you don't work hard or have not been doing it long and your genetics suck


i just want to put a gun to their head and pull the trigger sometimes
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
well established fact? doesn't look like it, merely conjecture on bodybuilding.com forums i bet

my best natural gains were this way btw, so i will have to completely and politely disagree

bodybuilding.com doesn't care about bodybuilding at all

but yes several forums have long time naturals telling you the same thing, that bodypart splits are typically shit


good it worked for you anyway
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Ursus on November 19, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
Bodypart splits work for size.

However for strength trianing 'movements' rather than bodyparts works best I think.

I got strong doing a 5x week workout where I picked about 6 exercises and done 2 sets everyday I felt recovered except deadlifts and squats. I done a bastardised smolov and singles for deadlifts every day
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 19, 2011, 10:34:11 AM
those arms are nowhere near 20 inches, they look maybe 17 and im being generous there, i can easily believe this guy is natural, not very big and not very cut, looks decent but nothing youd even take a second look at with his shirt off.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: aesthetics on November 19, 2011, 10:35:10 AM
i'm failing to see how bodypart splits would be inferior to compound exercises for a natural? there's no real logic behind such a claim. being natural means you have lower nitrogen retention, lower protein turnover, etc... it just means your ability to add muscle is severely diminished compared to a steroid user. steroids are completely independent to what type of stimuli are required to cause muscle growth, the only way that argument can hold any water is if someone is making the claim that by isolating certain body parts and doing high reps you will be overtraining, which i have found to be the exact opposite. infact, i needed to train significantly harder while natural to cause any noticeable amount of muscle growth and i never overtrained when natural even when working out twice a day 6 days a week.

your muscle building ability when natural is capped at a very low level, it doesn't matter what type of training you do it will be the same either way provided you caused enough micro-fiber trauma when diet and recovery are sufficient. going heavy will increase the numbers on your lifts, yes, sure, because you are also increasing your motor-neural efficiency and training your cns to fire muscle motor neurons more effectively, but as i have already stated, you aren't actually adding more muscle this way just because your lift numbers are going up.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 10:55:32 AM
Bodypart splits work for size.

However for strength trianing 'movements' rather than bodyparts works best I think.

I got strong doing a 5x week workout where I picked about 6 exercises and done 2 sets everyday I felt recovered except deadlifts and squats. I done a bastardised smolov and singles for deadlifts every day

a really really big guy on bodybuilding.com who was running low dose test 250mg/week after training naturally for 15 years said that the reasons high rep splits dont work for the average natural twink is because the weight they can handle for these reps simply are not enough tension for muscular adaptation


Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 10:59:23 AM
a really really big guy on bodybuilding.com who was running low dose test 250mg/week after training naturally for 15 years said that the reasons high rep splits dont work for the average natural twink is because the weight they can handle for these reps simply are not enough tension for muscular adaptation




Hmmm.  If fiber contraction is needed then negatives would be the way to recruit maximum. Its really a matter of traing just enough and resting just enough to maximize your potential...this takes years to develop tho so enjoy the journey.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:00:57 AM
Not that I really care,but it just might be that he trains balls to the wall,does cardio religously,eats right,gets enough sleep/rest,and is dedicated to a bodybuilding lifestyle.

Some guys just lift and eat a lot,others "train",and eat perfectly for their goals.

Looks like a big natural guy.

Just because gh15 said 185 lbs. is the limit  for a natty,or some dumb shit, doesn`t make it true in every case.....too many variables just some of which I listed above.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: jprc10 on November 19, 2011, 11:03:15 AM
I don't care what gh15 says, I believe this guy is natural. I mean, his physique is attainable drug free, if he got it like that or not we can't know.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Ursus on November 19, 2011, 11:05:09 AM
a really really big guy on bodybuilding.com who was running low dose test 250mg/week after training naturally for 15 years said that the reasons high rep splits dont work for the average natural twink is because the weight they can handle for these reps simply are not enough tension for muscular adaptation




I can see where he comes from the majority of my sets are between 5-8 reps but many sets!

Doing set after set of 12-15 reps will just give you a pump and make youa  bit bigger but not actually much more muscular. I think it is mainly capilliarisation but I may be wrong I am not overly clued in on the scientific aspect.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Mawse on November 19, 2011, 11:05:46 AM
a really really big guy on bodybuilding.com who was running low dose test 250mg/week after training naturally for 15 years said that the reasons high rep splits dont work for the average natural twink is because the weight they can handle for these reps simply are not enough tension for muscular adaptation




guy looks like a sex offender and no-one ever is going to get 20inch arms at 12% naturally unless theyre 6'6"

btw if you believe a 'really big guy' was running the same amount of test as Grandpa Joe's HRT then you should have stayed on bodybuilding.com
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:07:09 AM
Arms aren`t 20 " by a long shot,but still looks like a natty to me.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2011, 11:09:49 AM
Not that I really care,but it just might be that he trains balls to the wall,does cardio religously,eats right,gets enough sleep/rest,and is dedicated to a bodybuilding lifestyle.

Some guys just lift and eat a lot,others "train",and eat perfectly for their goals.

Looks like a big natural guy.

Just because gh15 said 185 lbs. is the limit  for a natty,or some dumb shit, doesn`t make it true in every case.....too many variables just some of which I listed above.
good post wes,,,
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
LOL @  "gh15`s teachings" !   :D

(http://kungfu-guide.com/img_wb/462001111510823po.jpg)

Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 19, 2011, 11:10:08 AM
Arms aren`t 20 " by a long shot,but still looks like a natty to me.
i agree, i thought i was the only one who really doesnt think this guy is that impressive, there isnt one thing i see in that picture that makes me stop and go, "wow he's huge or impressive".
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:11:44 AM
i agree, i thought i was the only one who really doesnt think this guy is that impressive, there isnt one thing i see in that picture that makes me stop and go, "wow he's huge or impressive".
He looks far better than average,in good shape but far from freaky or anything.

Doesn`t have the look you get from using gear IMO.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 19, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
He looks far better than average,in good shape but far from freaky or anything.

Doesn`t have the look you get from using gear IMO.
oh i agree absolutely, he looks better than the average man or even average gym goer but compared to most guys running even a small amount of gear and that have a decent knowledge of what their doing in the gym he doesnt look like anything.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
good post wes,,,
Thanks bro!  :)

As far as high reps getting you bigger muscles,they will up to a point as a natty,just like lower reps will up to a point as a natty.

This fucking guy could have trained for years using heavy weight (for him) but no longer does.

Who fucking knows  LOL  ???
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2011, 11:20:03 AM
oh i agree absolutely, he looks better than the average man or even average gym goer but compared to most guys running even a small amount of gear and that have a decent knowledge of what their doing in the gym he doesnt look like anything.
well there's where natural seperates from user ,,a clean guy who works hard and a user who maybe 'naturally 'can't touch this guy but a cycle or 2 passes him on the track,,,is what it is,,,both train but one gets more a lttle quicker.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
oh i agree absolutely, he looks better than the average man or even average gym goer but compared to most guys running even a small amount of gear and that have a decent knowledge of what their doing in the gym he doesnt look like anything.
That`s what I was trying to imply.  :)
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 11:59:50 AM
guy looks like a sex offender and no-one ever is going to get 20inch arms at 12% naturally unless theyre 6'6"

btw if you believe a 'really big guy' was running the same amount of test as Grandpa Joe's HRT then you should have stayed on bodybuilding.com

also high bf level
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: chess315 on November 19, 2011, 12:08:40 PM
a natural will look best at higher bf as far as mass. You can be pretty large if your not ripped natural I know for a 1000% fact. I trained in prison with guys that looked similar to that guy I know wasnt on anything. watch lock up super max you will see guys like that a lot. I agree you can get gear in prison but super max no
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: TrueGrit on November 19, 2011, 12:30:10 PM
The really, really big guy from bodybuilding.com has spoken.

Good enough for me..
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 12:58:44 PM
Not that I really care,but it just might be that he trains balls to the wall,does cardio religously,eats right,gets enough sleep/rest,and is dedicated to a bodybuilding lifestyle.

Some guys just lift and eat a lot,others "train",and eat perfectly for their goals.

Looks like a big natural guy.

Just because gh15 said 185 lbs. is the limit  for a natty,or some dumb shit, doesn`t make it true in every case.....too many variables just some of which I listed above.

170 lb! ,, you will never learn ,, you are one stuborn old fella,, continue placing 4,,, 1 70 not 185 170! natural limit for 5'10 is 1 7 0 lb 6% over all bodyfat that mean leg and upper torse combo of bodyfat will be 6% at 170lb in the best genetic scanario and ofcourse genetic frame scanario ,,fella like you wont even get to 170 truly naturaly

gh15 approved
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 01:01:55 PM
wes is live in a dream called wesdream ,, he is what you call the FORVEER LOCAL..why is that pupils? because he NEVER JUMPED ON THE TRAIN WHEN THE TRAIN PASED BY ,, HE WAS ALWAYS BEHIND,, DO NOT FOLLOW THIS..THIS WILL LEAD YOU TO MEDIOCARY! ,, im telling you again there is one thing to be local and stay compete and do it for whatever and completely diff thing to compete in highest levels,, it takes TONS OF DRUGS,,and ciomplete dependency on drugs,, even wes that is local and does the local thing...even he! is complete and uter dependent of drugs,, he wont tell you that but rest asure he is CVOMPLETE AND UTTER DEPENDENT ON DRUGS,, YOU TAKE HIS DRUGS AND HE WILL GO KOOKOO IN MATTER OF WEEKS,,

truth shall set you free!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
wes is live in a dream called wesdream ,, he is what you call the FORVEER LOCAL..why is that pupils? because he NEVER JUMPED ON THE TRAIN WHEN THE TRAIN PASED BY ,, HE WAS ALWAYS BEHIND,, DO NOT FOLLOW THIS..THIS WILL LEAD YOU TO MEDIOCARY! ,, im telling you again there is one thing to be local and stay compete and do it for whatever and completely diff thing to compete in highest levels,, it takes TONS OF DRUGS,,and ciomplete dependency on drugs,, even wes that is local and does the local thing...even he! is complete and uter dependent of drugs,, he wont tell you that but rest asure he is CVOMPLETE AND UTTER DEPENDENT ON DRUGS,, YOU TAKE HIS DRUGS AND HE WILL GO KOOKOO IN MATTER OF WEEKS,,

truth shall set you free!

gh15 approved
I`ve got news for you gh15,I would estimate that 99% of the people on the boards who do your cycle will never,yes never win their class at a national level contest and will damn sure never turn pro.

Yes,I missed the train due to personal troubles for years,but I would never advocate huge cycles to people I have never seen.

Tons of guys take humongous cycles for years and still don`t place at all in contests or are placing 4th. and 5th.,and I`m talking many years of abuse here.

Only if I thought a person had the genes to turn pro would I advocate using the suicidal amounts of gear you advise average gym rats that you have never seen in person to take.

The tone of your post sounds like I hit a nerve for expressing my opinions just like you do,if so,you`ll get over it or learn to live with it.

Lighten up!  :)
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
I`ve got news for you gh15,I would estimate that 99% of the people on the boards who do your cycle will never,yes never win their class at a national level contest and will damn sure never turn pro.

Yes,I missed the train due to personal troubles for years,but I would never advocate huge cycles to people I have never seen.

Tons of guys take humongous cycles for years and still don`t place at all in contests or are placing 4th. and 5th.,and I`m talking many years of abuse here.

Only if I thought a person had the genes to turn pro would I advocate using the suicidal amounts of gear you advise average gym rats that you have never seen in person to take.

The tone of your post sounds like I hit a nerve for expressing my opinions just like you do,if so,you`ll get over it or learn to live with it.

Lighten up!  :)

i read one sentence of your,, and no need to read rest you know why? because i already made MADE  4 pro cards only this years by itself! only this year im personaly responsible for 4 pro cards,,   yes they did the work but  if they agred to be revled you would knwo i did 4 pros,, inaddition you got top amatuers practicaly profesionals one of them is bboy the other one is dogma which wil be profesional that go out and continiously put their name at risk  talking gh15 none stop,, they! are the ones who need to be comended ,, you have actualy bodybuild that not afraid to say ti on their real names and they should be comended for that,,

i garentee you that withing the next 10 years all profesionals  wil have gh15 stamp approved on hem and followed my teachings ,, ALL not some ALL

gh15 approved
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 01:18:26 PM
bboy was approaching the top before he read your posts....although I`m sure he improved using your advice as anyone would by upping the dosage.

as far as the others go,no names,but I do believe you...upping the GH and gear gets more results...............mo st would know this anyway but you brought it to light.

I`m also quite content to be on the level I`m at in bodybuilding and I`ll continue to train and try to make improvements as I know I can.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 01:18:43 PM
actualy i decided to finish read your posting for im stimulated,, and i shall tell you another thing,,

you like quite few others,, all bunch of addict ofcourse and lieing filts,, twist what i say ,, im the one who ADVOCATE many time lower doses andi explain to who and to what i write higher dosing,, i also put fella on quite low doses,, you twist my word to fit your agenda whatever it is to that day ,, this is the problem,, everything i write is from hands on and everything i write it is after years of desaliung with every spect of bodybuilrs ,, from the begginer to the advance ,, i put very clear who need to do what ...its fellas like you ! who cant read or maybe need translator into gh15 terminology which is today bodybuild terminology so you better learn it ....but its fellas like you who twist what i say

read the bible ,, re read it ,, bodybuild is drug addiction ,, it alwys been this way ,, and you wont get anywhere with out drug in blood ,, NO ONE EVER HAVE IN THE LAST 40-50 YEARS,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Swlabr on November 19, 2011, 01:20:44 PM
gh15, can equipona be injected with an insulin syringe?
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 01:21:51 PM
actualy i decided to finish read your posting for im stimulated,, and i shall tell you another thing,,

you like quite few others,, all bunch of addict ofcourse and lieing filts,, twist what i say ,, im the one who ADVOCATE many time lower doses andi explain to who and to what i write higher dosing,, i also put fella on quite low doses,, you twist my word to fit your agenda whatever it is to that day ,, this is the problem,, everything i write is from hands on and everything i write it is after years of desaliung with every spect of bodybuilrs ,, from the begginer to the advance ,, i put very clear who need to do what ...its fellas like you ! who cant read or maybe need translator into gh15 terminology which is today bodybuild terminology so you better learn it ....but its fellas like you who twist what i say

read the bible ,, re read it ,, bodybuild is drug addiction ,, it alwys been this way ,, and you wont get anywhere with out drug in blood ,, NO ONE EVER HAVE IN THE LAST 40-50 YEARS,,

gh15 approved
You`re dismissed soldier! ;D
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 01:23:11 PM
bboy was approaching the top before he read your posts....although I`m sure he improved using your advice as anyone would by upping the dosage.

as far as the others go,no names,but I do believe you...upping the GH and gear gets more results...............mo st would know this anyway but you brought it to light.

I`m also quite content to be on the level I`m at in bodybuilding and I`ll continue to train and try to make improvements as I know I can.

it dont mater if you belive me or not ,, what i say is writen in stone,, LOOK AROUND YOU ,, LOOK IN THE MONSTER I HAVE CREATED,, NO ONE GET SO MUCH ATENTION FOR SAYING BALONIE,, I GOT TO THE TOP OF THE TOP OF BODYBUILD VIA INTERNET PERSONA WHAT I COULD NOT DO VIA PLACING IN THE O ....why? because i was very honest ,, very truthful and put it all out,, all out! i dont care for nothing but the true

i said fella genetic frame mater i said rusty desty whatever hsi name is look like poop wrapped in a tape ,, i said he was not menat to bodybuild,, i said his doses of gh arre wacked and wont do nothing beside grow a little palumbo into a frame who not meant for bodybuild,, and what hapen? what hapen? go into the bible ,, i sday again and again ,, sometime even in thunderdome some do not like what i write ...it may be erased,, but usualy the top here know to leave it and either way i dont care,, but! go into bible and resd what i wrote about rasty or dasty ,, an  check into his wonderful national experiene...

i see things before they happen ,, i know bodybuild like i know the right toe on my left foot

fellas need to not be lazy and read the alllllllllllll bible not half way not 3/4 way

gh15 approved
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 01:25:27 PM
it dont mater if you belive me or not ,, what i say is writen in stone,, LOOK AROUND YOU ,, LOOK IN THE MONSTER I HAVE CREATED,, NO ONE GET SO MUCH ATENTION FOR SAYING BALONIE,, I GOT TO THE TOP OF THE TOP OF BODYBUILD VIA INTERNET PERSONA WHAT I COULD NOT DO VIA PLACING IN THE O ....why? because i was very honest ,, very truthful and put it all out,, all out! i dont care for nothing but the true

i said fella genetic frame mater i said rusty desty whatever hsi name is look like poop wrapped in a tape ,, i said he was not menat to bodybuild,, i said his doses of gh arre wacked and wont do nothing beside grow a little palumbo into a frame who not meant for bodybuild,, and what hapen? what hapen? go into the bible ,, i sday again and again ,, sometime even in thunderdome some do not like what i write ...it may be erased,, but usualy the top here know to leave it and either way i dont care,, but! go into bible and resd what i wrote about rasty or dasty ,, an  check into his wonderful national experiene...

i see things before they happen ,, i know bodybuild like i know the right toe on my left foot

fellas need to not be lazy and read the alllllllllllll bible not half way not 3/4 way

gh15 approved

You know a lot about drugs for sure,but so do tons of other guys.

I realize you brought out some info others never have before...........congrat s!  :)
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 01:26:07 PM
gh15, can equipona be injected with an insulin syringe?
No......at least it shouldn`t be.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 01:29:07 PM
No......at least it shouldn`t be.

actualy it depend on chef,, top chef liek the ones i mention wil do it very fine to a point you can inject many things of their with insulina needle,, the chef is everything in bodybuild ,, everything! if you think jason cutler sit with human grade everything you are dreaming in lala land,, and this is not to you spefici ,, it is to anyone who read this posting,, all bodybuild mainly take now day powders that come from china,, ALL ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 19, 2011, 01:48:21 PM
gh15, can equipona be injected with an insulin syringe?
lol, why on earth would you? i mean theoretically its possible but the amount of time it would take to push the oil through a pin that small would take forever, it would take you an hour to inject 2 cc's.
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 01:49:44 PM
HOLY SHIT GH15 IS ACTUALLY IN MY THREAD!!!!!!!!


while you're here, please comment on the "true natural bodybuilder" this thread is about



to me he looks like a lying asshole, how can you be that size natural and he says the arms are 20" which i doubt!!!
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
My genetics don't suck at all you moron
You piss me off, boy. If you'd show some respect for guys who know a bit more about training than you, you might learn something...become a good getbig poster, cause you got it in you, or go post at those other forums. You know they suck..
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 19, 2011, 02:00:46 PM
You piss me off, boy. If you'd show some respect for guys who know a bit more about training than you, you might learn something...become a good getbig poster, cause you got it in you, or go post at those other forums. You know they suck..
I do, but the fact is you are not one of them

And if there is one thing that pisses me off more than anything it's fake naturals and delusionalism regarding the subject
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2011, 02:03:17 PM
Don't make me angry, yo wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

now who said this ?
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Mawse on November 19, 2011, 02:08:20 PM
lol, why on earth would you? i mean theoretically its possible but the amount of time it would take to push the oil through a pin that small would take forever, it would take you an hour to inject 2 cc's.

it takes about 10 seconds. I do all my shots subQ with insulin pins, exactly the same result just with no scar tissue build up in the muscles.

Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Swlabr on November 19, 2011, 02:11:24 PM
it takes about 10 seconds. I do all my shots subQ with insulin pins, exactly the same result just with no scar tissue build up in the muscles.



You inject the equipona subQ? ???
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: Mawse on November 19, 2011, 02:15:04 PM
You inject the equipona subQ? ???

yes, and the trenbalonie, testosterona and nandrolona

it helps if you have a rx for human grade if you're doing this. had hormona levels tested after doing it for 3 months, exactly the same as when i was shooting IM
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: el numero uno on November 19, 2011, 03:48:44 PM
yes, and the trenbalonie, testosterona and nandrolona

it helps if you have a rx for human grade if you're doing this. had hormona levels tested after doing it for 3 months, exactly the same as when i was shooting IM

 :o
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
yes, and the trenbalonie, testosterona and nandrolona

it helps if you have a rx for human grade if you're doing this. had hormona levels tested after doing it for 3 months, exactly the same as when i was shooting IM
Are you quite "tubby" ?
Title: Re: despite of gh15's teachings, u will still pretend this guy is natural
Post by: chess315 on November 19, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
rusty dusty that was a good one lol
Title: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: no one on November 19, 2011, 07:24:48 PM
so bboy started a thread over at promucsle in support of gh15, even sharing a link to the bible for those fucking ingrates. can i get an 'amen'?

of course as always, the mods have locked the thread. seems that they dont enjoy the little world they have built on slapping eachother's asses being corrupted with the truth. cant have their little utopia ruined over there- its like a real life version of that m night shamalyn movie over there where everyone lives in the woods in the 1800's until one escapes the fences and monsters they were told that would eat them and discovers a modern day civilisation outside of the little world they're living in.

yes. it seems like they take wanting to know who GH15 is quite seriously- some little fag named 'bigchef' (isnt it always the guys with 'big' in their user names that are usually the biggest knobs?) made a post about combining forces with mods around the GLOBE in an massive internet wide manhunt for GH15 and they 'will bring him down. we are joining forces across the community' ahahahahaha what a fucking stooge.

here another gem from 'bigchef'

'I agree. Let me say this, if you are so called elf or elves wanna post shit bout gh15, do it at getbig.com not HERE! I am not interested in gh15 some faceless character. I am tired of this non-sense and I know the Mods are and also BigA I believe. This is Professionalmuscle.com not some faceless getbig.com ####. Go on hate me because I dont give a shit. We dont allowed some guru bullshit talk on this forum.'

it would seem 'bigfag' is taking things a little to personally. dude, heres a message for you cause i know and rajjin and the rest of you bitches creep this board every day and dont have the fucking balls to post here cause this is the fucking THUNDERDOME- you guys are the biggest bitches  in message boarding. that thread is the best thing that has happened to promuscle in a long time. nice job killing what little traffic to your over moderated board you have. that place is dying. you two idiots are a prime example why.

bboy- nice job starting that thread. im sure the ride is going to be rough over there for you for now on but fuck them-yes, im talking to you 'bigchef' and rajjin- you kids best stay where its safe to post, where you can lock threads and cry to bigA when things dont go your way. truthfully i wish you had not shared the bible with them. they dont deserve it.

i feel bad for a lot of the promuscle members. theres a lot of good guys over there. too bad the few make that whole place suck. at one time it was a good board. clowns like bigchef trying to play the role of the hard man when hes a just a fat punk kid is ruining it.

and in classic getbig style- before some idiot that posts here regularly pipes up to spout off some bullshit about this thread- fuck off- if you dont like it dont post here.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 07:39:41 PM
That board sux!!

Too damn "clicky"..............if you post something they don`t like,see ya` !  :(
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: bradistani on November 19, 2011, 07:40:46 PM
muscly men  8)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: OTHstrong on November 19, 2011, 07:45:51 PM
That board sux!!

Too damn "clicky"..............if you post something they don`t like,see ya` !  :(
They are trying to be proper but in reality they are tyrants and despicable, misleading people by controling the information, bunch of retards over there
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 19, 2011, 08:19:34 PM
By far one of the worst boards i've ever purused. Just plain terrible. And Hernon has COMPLETELY lost my respect. Grade-A asshole !!! Thank god for GetBig !
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: goomba420 on November 19, 2011, 08:36:02 PM
the only forum in history where my ENTIRE 1920x1080 browser window is covered in ads
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 08:38:22 PM
Isnt the bigchef guy 360pds of lard ? he also says cos he uses low doses his health is great hahaha fat fuck what about weighing 360pds you fat sack of shit  ::)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
It would seem Danta loves the cock..

Big A needs to clear some of these fuckwits out of there , they have ruined a decent board with there power tripping hitler antics.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: jude2 on November 19, 2011, 08:40:39 PM
Isnt the bigchef guy 360pds of lard ? he also says cos he uses low doses his health is great hahaha fat fuck what about weighing 360pds you fat sack of shit  ::)
Yeah and he is only 5'6.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 08:42:55 PM
Yeah and he is only 5'6.
haha it get's worse , an obese dwarf with a power tripping attitude, imagine how he sweats when melting down everytime he sees the name GH15  :D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 19, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
getbig best thing in the whole internet after facebook

germand boards also suck, don't visit them since years...all about asskissing
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 19, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
they just banned bboy i guess
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: jude2 on November 19, 2011, 09:12:43 PM
they just banned bboy i guess
I don't think so, too many guys like him there.
Title: that damn gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 19, 2011, 09:17:28 PM
got me a three day ban at professionalmuscle just for talking about him...LOL

new pm board rule... all gh15 references or post will be deleted  :o

PEOPLE REALLY DO FEAR GOD!!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 19, 2011, 09:18:01 PM


'I agree. Let me say this, if you are so called elf or elves wanna post shit bout gh15, do it at getbig.com not HERE! I am not interested in gh15 some faceless character. I am tired of this non-sense and I know the Mods are and also BigA I believe. This is Professionalmuscle.com not some faceless getbig.com ####. Go on hate me because I dont give a shit. We dont allowed some guru bullshit talk on this forum.'


gh15 gives out his advice, those guys give out there advice what's the difference? Do any of those guys post pics of themselves? Big A is a IFBB pro, i've never seen a pic of him?
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 19, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
You forgot the ratio of

1 gh15 post
10 ass-kissing 'wow i love u guys and it's not just the clomid speaking' posts
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: g101 on November 19, 2011, 09:20:56 PM
how else will they continue to sell rat poison and snake oil if gh15 is being mentioned on PM  ???

 ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 19, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
I don't think so, too many guys like him there.
LOL... NO Big chef gave me a 3 day ban and called me a bitch...LOL

wow just speaking GOD OF HORMONES name (gh15) strikes fear in the heart of grown fucking men..
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Nomad on November 19, 2011, 09:35:19 PM
That site is shit. Twenty trillion adds.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 09:37:08 PM
yesterday if not mistake ,, big a got leter from oneof my elfs,, that leter was very clear,, VERY CLEAR,, i got this copy of the letter to me early today ,, now as i told you before my elfs are very impoortent to me,, my top elfs are UNTOUCHABLE ,, you touch them you lose more than your boarding,, i make it clear here very clear here first i dotn know if my elf want to be there he just say he ban there ,, i dont folow what go there but i got detail explanation from my elfs on there,, and i have few elfs there ,, they explain situation with moderator name chef,, the top elf wrote he say to biga ,, so now since i got detail explanation and I TOLD YOU that if something get to me it is too late to retract,, i tell it here very clear,, I GIVE A WEEK! FOR my top elf to get back on the boarding,, top elf tarzan on profesional muscles boarding,, i dont care if he want it or not ,,  I WANT IT ,, or get the moderator out of moderator position ,, this is to th eadministator of site of profesional muscle,, big a

the description i got is of coruption from all my elfs there,,

if this doesnt happen and my top elf doesnt get back out of the ban and again i doesnt care if he want to be there or not I WANT HIM TO BE THERE NOW! ,, if he doesnt get out ban and coruption not go away ,, there wil be hell to pay

i will out every selective scam oneby one i will analize direct product from bad suppliers there including ,,i will make sure this boarding has no credability in regard to sources ,, for not to forget! it is money that run the boarding ,, money that come from bodybuilders,,its not enough to have a boarding  friends you need clients and customers to buy for the sponsor to pay money for his slot on boarding,,

read this posting carfuly ,, you want to comply with what i said here one way or another,, this is serious

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 19, 2011, 09:45:13 PM
gh15 is on the case, this is even more important than calls to the president to get Victor Martinez back home
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 09:51:15 PM
nono,, i dont have time for balonie with boardings,,too much wanabes ,, but! coruption is something i dont like

so... i dotn realy care whatboardings my elfs are on ,, it s their private life they can do whatever they wish,, i dont tell them what boarding to be on ,, they give me their wizdom and do whatever they chose,, but! as i say i dont like corpution

so ,, as many see my words get far,, what i write is read foloowed by 100s of thousands,, i say a word and suppliers sel their all stacks in hourse nto days! hours!

so...the fellas who need to do thinking should think if this is worth to them ,, they can eithr sacrifice a corput moderateor ,, or have my word going so far to a point their boarding will never be the same again ,, another option is to leve  moderate on but let my elfs be there and i dont care if my elfs want to be there or not,, in this point i give them order to be there

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 09:53:54 PM
and last thing,, you better not ban b boy from that boarding,, if i see you ban b boy from that boarding that boarding is FINISHED

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 19, 2011, 09:55:12 PM
and last thing,, you better not ban b boy from that boarding,, if i see you ban b boy from that boarding that boarding is FINISHED

gh15 approved

So did Big A ever beat you in a pro show?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: goomba420 on November 19, 2011, 09:55:33 PM
gh15 is on the case, this is even more important than calls to the president to get Victor Martinez back home
ROFL
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Big_A on November 19, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 19, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
I wonder what they are thinking while they are reading this shit lmao.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 19, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.



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Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: goomba420 on November 19, 2011, 10:23:08 PM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.


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Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 19, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
There are some good guys on that board, plenty more good guys got banned because they spoke the truth or outed the scams there.

Bigchef is a complete dick, he abuses his mod position and threatens members with the ''ban'' all the time, im not surprised when i read here that he is a 5'6 300+ lb sack of shit 4iu per day gym warrior ::)

What i hate about that site is the lies, Danta the filth telling people a top pro only uses 400mg Test and a few IU of GH per day in the off season, then swallowing a few anavar tabs prior to a guest posing ::)

Then there are the twinks who think everything is genetics and pro's only use a few mg of this and that and that they eat 10 times per day etc etc ::) this despite BigA posting a thread telling everyone the truth about what you need to take to be a pro.

I cannot get it through my head why morons like Bigchef and Raijin and WW from getbig meltdown over gh15 and seem so butthurt, i have a feeling they have been making money from lies and scams and gh15 has opened peoples eyes and exposed these scumbags
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 19, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
I acutally like promuscle and think if you cleaned house bigA. It would do more money like all good things the dc and true protein era has come to an end. People want the truth whether if it comes from gh15 or you or who ever not some guy telling them he got to 300lbs taking 100mg of test mon wed fri. The truth gh15 gets a lot of credit and is an entertain fellow but it was coming before him. Even on this crazy site not very many of us read these posts and go out and shoot up 5grams of juice and 20ius of gh the ones that do would have did so anyways.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 10:45:53 PM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.



whch elf you talk about ,, i have 7 elfs on that boarding,, the elf i talk abotu is top elf tarzan ,, acording to the information i got from my elfs there and actualy members who are not elfs who keep pming about this million episode that i get once every month from your boarding..they say my they dont do anything wrong beside speaking their opinion ,, they say they are being ban for no reason but stating truth,, this is not the way ,, i do not and can not accpet it,, so i ofered simple things...

1. imdediate removal of the moderat that ban the elfs

2. unban top elf tarzan who  sent me the information,, my top elf is not active memebr there if not mistake,, he said corpution and im the one who want him there now ,, but you dont have to do it up to you,, i realy cant garente he will be there i dont thikn its a boarding he post on ,,this is just to show a mod he can not be corput

this is simply coruption ,, if you think gh15 word is not strong enough then let it continue,, your posting on that boarding that was brought before me and i quoted it in bible is what my elfs there preached ,, they did nothing wrong,, they dserve no ban,, any sane normal modertor would never do this especialy when he know how strong gh15 and the amount of influence gh15 has on bodybuild

i dotn have time to go from boarding to boarding and check on how thing run and who say what,, i get to here everything from elfs who bring it and lately too many members who pretend or thikn they are elfs,, but i can tell corpution when its brought before me and this is corupt move,,

i know how the business work very well ,, as i said plenty times i know how the business work  but corupt modrators shoudol cease to exisist no matter what

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: 20inch calves on November 19, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
get him gh >:(
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Nomad on November 19, 2011, 10:49:31 PM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.



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Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 10:56:58 PM
there is nothing to get ,, i like big a ,, it is what i got into my reading this morning in the thunderdome that i did not like ,, i dont like corpution,, i brought down fellas in real life for serious corption and denail of freedom of speach,, in real life,, i did it to real moderators who abused power,, its not the case here,, i dont knwo the moderate ,, i dont care who were the moderate ,, i care for the move of coruption and avoidance of freedom of speech ,, it is truth that was shouted and was cut! i was told it into my pms by all my elfs there which agreed about it ,,

everyone ask why i like nordic all the years,, why i talk so much abotu nordic ,, well the fella is HARD WORKER,, SERIOUS WORKER,, NO BALONIE WORKER,, HE IS DOING SERVICE OF GREAT IMPORTENT FOR BODYBUILD,, HE DOESNT ACCEPT LOW PERFORMANCE ,, SERIOUS  SERIOUS FELLA! this is why i back him up all the years,, because he is a workholic ,, he is a horse,, he respect the hormone world ,, he has a word,, he is diamond among stones,, this is why! i like nordic friends,, this is exampel of the good among bodybuild,, fella like nordic is one among sea of dirty seaweed

i hate abuse of power

gh15 approved

Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 19, 2011, 10:59:00 PM
You forgot the ratio of

1 gh15 post
10 ass-kissing 'wow i love u guys and it's not just the clomid speaking' posts

Dont forget the ''pro's only need 400mg of Test and 4iu of GH, the rest is genetics'' posts ::)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Big_A on November 19, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
whch elf you talk about ,, i have 7 elfs on that boarding,, the elf i talk abotu is top elf tarzan ,, acording to the information i got from my elfs there and actualy members who are not elfs who keep pming about this million episode that i get once every month from your boarding..they say my they dont do anything wrong beside speaking their opinion ,, they say they are being ban for no reason but stating truth,, this is not the way ,, i do not and can not accpet it,, so i ofered simple things...

1. imdediate removal of the moderat that ban the elfs

2. unban top elf tarzan who  sent me the information,, my top elf is not active memebr there if not mistake,, he said corpution and im the one who want him there now ,, but you dont have to do it up to you,, i realy cant garente he will be there i dont thikn its a boarding he post on ,,this is just to show a mod he can not be corput

this is simply coruption ,, if you think gh15 hen let it continue,, your posting on that boarding that was brought before me and i quoted it in bible is what my elfs there preached ,, they did nothing wrong,, they dserve no ban,, any sane normal modertor would never do this especialy when he know how strong gh15 and the amount of influence gh15 has on bodybuild

i dotn have time to go from boarding to boarding and check on how thing run and who say what,, i get to here everything from elfs who bring it and lately too many members who pretend or thikn they are elfs,, but i can tell corpution when its brought before me and this is corupt move,,

i know how the business work very well ,, as i said plenty times i know how the business work  but corupt modrators shoudol cease to exisist no matter what

gh15 approved


tarzan deserved his ban for swearing at a mod.

I know you have an image to uphold, but your demands will not be met. If you choose to threaten my interests further, there are plenty of people that you know that will confirm for you that I will bring this in real life to you.
If you wish to have that headcahe in your life because of a troll that is bitching to you, then it's your call.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 11:08:46 PM
tarzan deserved his ban for swearing at a mod.

I know you have an image to uphold, but your demands will not be met. If you choose to threaten my interests further, there are plenty of people that you know that will confirm for you that I will bring this in real life to you.
If you wish to have that headcahe in your life because of a troll that is bitching to you, then it's your call.

NO BODY TRETEN ME ,, NO BODY,, i know more about you than you know about me ,, i assure you that! ,, NO ONE TRETEN ME ,, im nto some kido on internet,, get of the tree you climbed on ,,you are known face i am not!,,i never listen to trol i dont know what trol mean ,, i listen to fellas who work for me i listen to fellas i trust

you are going into a place you dont want

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 19, 2011, 11:15:50 PM
i also hope you undertsnad how corput it look whats going on on profesional muscle ,, i hope for the sake of you that this is some gimick acoutn and not the real big a ,, i really hope ,, whats going on here is bordering the most serious coruption i have witness coming from boarding,, a boarding with tons over tons of ilegal drug activity treten someone who can be the damn dea,, this is laughable

gh15 approved
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Figo on November 19, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
So now there's censorship as well as propaganda..

Do they still push that liver thing there for Phil, some supplement thing, think it was liver-something?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Stavios on November 19, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
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Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: diamondcut on November 19, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
you would think that a board which makes money off of steroid dealers...wouldn't they like to preach more gear rather than lesss?...

 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Stavios on November 19, 2011, 11:32:37 PM
you would think that a board which makes money off of steroid dealers...wouldn't they like to preach more gear rather than lesss?...

 ??? ??? ???

x2
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: kevinf on November 19, 2011, 11:37:33 PM
LOL! @ 300 pounds at 5'6
anyone have any pics of this fat fuck big chef?
 
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 11:43:34 PM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.


I saw a post by Tarzen toward that "fatchef" monkey saying this is Big A's board you are a moderator here to moderate the rules of the board not throw your weight around like you are doing now - then he was Banned.. that post was fair and non disrespectful yet he was banned and the post deleted.. your mods are a pack of power tripping fuck wits, that board was started to tell the truth about what goes on in the world of BB, GH15 tells the truth about doses etc much the same as you have said in the past , but the clowns you have running the show over there lie and say its all shit they use small doses but use these supplements also , so they are using there positions to push bullshit supplements , all you stood against and everything that gh15 is against and what we here respect , the truth.. why not ban that fat fuck dante also ? the rubbish he peddles on your board goes against what you stand for.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: DK II on November 19, 2011, 11:43:44 PM
you would think that a board which makes money off of steroid dealers...wouldn't they like to preach more gear rather than lesss?...

 ??? ??? ???

Are you saying they are dumb?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 11:45:29 PM
There are some good guys on that board, plenty more good guys got banned because they spoke the truth or outed the scams there.

Bigchef is a complete dick, he abuses his mod position and threatens members with the ''ban'' all the time, im not surprised when i read here that he is a 5'6 300+ lb sack of shit 4iu per day gym warrior ::)

What i hate about that site is the lies, Danta the filth telling people a top pro only uses 400mg Test and a few IU of GH per day in the off season, then swallowing a few anavar tabs prior to a guest posing ::)

Then there are the twinks who think everything is genetics and pro's only use a few mg of this and that and that they eat 10 times per day etc etc ::) this despite BigA posting a thread telling everyone the truth about what you need to take to be a pro.

I cannot get it through my head why morons like Bigchef and Raijin and WW from getbig meltdown over gh15 and seem so butthurt, i have a feeling they have been making money from lies and scams and gh15 has opened peoples eyes and exposed these scumbags
This!!! and that raijin fucka is a corrupt yes man - has been for years yet Big A you let these pricks run your board and they are against everything you claimed to stand for.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: diamondcut on November 19, 2011, 11:47:55 PM
LOL! @ 300 pounds at 5'6
anyone have any pics of this fat fuck big a?
 

i don't think big a is the one that's the fat fuck...

Quote from BigChef:

"Let's leave gh15 out of this. Those other guys would not post openly on the net crazy dosages otherwise we would have more deaths in the bodybuilding community. Those guys are sensible enough not to give out info like that. What happen to Muntzer? Mohammed etc. Is it worth it to have IFFB Pro next to your name? Trophies? Fame? Is it really worth it? You can either abused it or take it wisely and eat healthy and live longer. Or follow some dumb arse troll from getbig.com such as gh15. Who is he? do you know what he looks like? It doesnt matter eh. What matter is, huge dosage of tren and gh and shit will make you Pro. Is that all matters to you? I rather look big healthy and eating wisely and not taking huge crazy dosage. I am 5'6 320 pounds and never been on huge crazy dosage. My bodyfat is pretty shitty but I dont abused the fuck out of it. Life is precious! Wife and family are number one in our lives and to live longer... "

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80408-god-hormones-8.html#post1138629


i don't care if you're 5'6" and your LBM is 190 lbs...you are still considered morbidly obese bigchef... life is precious? then stop being a fat fuck
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 11:51:49 PM
you would think that a board which makes money off of steroid dealers...wouldn't they like to preach more gear rather than lesss?...

 ??? ??? ???
Dantes supplements cost more than the gear  :D the mods dont care they are getting there cut from the dealers anyway plus free protein straight from fat Dantas tap.  :-X
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: diamondcut on November 20, 2011, 12:20:23 AM
Are you saying they are dumb?


lol well i just got a three day ban for saying that the mod's dun goof'd for banning bboy

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: OTHstrong on November 20, 2011, 01:27:45 AM
tarzan deserved his ban for swearing at a mod.

I know you have an image to uphold, but your demands will not be met. If you choose to threaten my interests further, there are plenty of people that you know that will confirm for you that I will bring this in real life to you.
If you wish to have that headcahe in your life because of a troll that is bitching to you, then it's your call.
Ha, this is stupid post brother, have you heard of the Art of war, "to know yourself and not know your enemy in 50 battles you will be victorious and in 50 battles you will be in peril" That is you, and "to know your yourself and to know your enemy" 100 battles you will be victorious. That is gh15
 You are fighting a battle you can't win cause you are saying you wil bring it to a guy you don't know and can't find out who he is and he know who you are and has elfs that can do his dirty work, you do the math, and look at my previous post I have been bashing gh15 like crazy so I am not defending him, I am just letting you know how stupid you sound, hope this helps,

The Sun Tzu approved  ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 01:41:55 AM
i don't think big a is the one that's the fat fuck...

Quote from BigChef:

"Let's leave gh15 out of this. Those other guys would not post openly on the net crazy dosages otherwise we would have more deaths in the bodybuilding community. Those guys are sensible enough not to give out info like that. What happen to Muntzer? Mohammed etc. Is it worth it to have IFFB Pro next to your name? Trophies? Fame? Is it really worth it? You can either abused it or take it wisely and eat healthy and live longer. Or follow some dumb arse troll from getbig.com such as gh15. Who is he? do you know what he looks like? It doesnt matter eh. What matter is, huge dosage of tren and gh and shit will make you Pro. Is that all matters to you? I rather look big healthy and eating wisely and not taking huge crazy dosage. I am 5'6 320 pounds and never been on huge crazy dosage. My bodyfat is pretty shitty but I dont abused the fuck out of it. Life is precious! Wife and family are number one in our lives and to live longer... "

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80408-god-hormones-8.html#post1138629


i don't care if you're 5'6" and your LBM is 190 lbs...you are still considered morbidly obese bigchef... life is precious? then stop being a fat fuck

A fat midget that weighs 320lbs talking about health and not abusing things, WTF, at 320lbs he has been abusing the fuck out of something, food most likely, if life is so precious lose some weight you fat kunt, wife and family and living long is most important to him ::) give me a break, food and being a internet nazi seems top of this lardy dwarfs agenda ::)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: OTHstrong on November 20, 2011, 02:13:54 AM
i don't think big a is the one that's the fat fuck...

Quote from BigChef:

"Let's leave gh15 out of this. Those other guys would not post openly on the net crazy dosages otherwise we would have more deaths in the bodybuilding community. Those guys are sensible enough not to give out info like that. What happen to Muntzer? Mohammed etc. Is it worth it to have IFFB Pro next to your name? Trophies? Fame? Is it really worth it? You can either abused it or take it wisely and eat healthy and live longer. Or follow some dumb arse troll from getbig.com such as gh15. Who is he? do you know what he looks like? It doesnt matter eh. What matter is, huge dosage of tren and gh and shit will make you Pro. Is that all matters to you? I rather look big healthy and eating wisely and not taking huge crazy dosage. I am 5'6 320 pounds and never been on huge crazy dosage. My bodyfat is pretty shitty but I dont abused the fuck out of it. Life is precious! Wife and family are number one in our lives and to live longer... "

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80408-god-hormones-8.html#post1138629


i don't care if you're 5'6" and your LBM is 190 lbs...you are still considered morbidly obese bigchef... life is precious? then stop being a fat fuck
lol, "leave gh15 out of this",  then the whole post is about gh15, what a retard then he talks about health at 320 at5' 6 man his colesterol has to be through the roof and probably has so much crap in his arteries, talking about health, wow
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 02:28:36 AM
i don't think big a is the one that's the fat fuck...

Quote from BigChef:

"Let's leave gh15 out of this. Those other guys would not post openly on the net crazy dosages otherwise we would have more deaths in the bodybuilding community. Those guys are sensible enough not to give out info like that. What happen to Muntzer? Mohammed etc. 1-Is it worth it to have IFFB Pro next to your name? Trophies? Fame? Is it really worth it? You can either abused it or take it wisely and 2-eat healthy and 3-live longer. 4-Or follow some dumb arse troll from getbig.com such as gh15. Who is he? do you know what he looks like? It doesnt matter eh. What matter is, huge dosage of tren and gh and shit will make you Pro. Is that all matters to you? 5-I rather look big healthy and eating wisely and not taking huge crazy dosage. I am 5'6 320 pounds and never been on huge crazy dosage. 6-My bodyfat is pretty shitty but I dont abused the fuck out of it. 7-Life is precious! Wife and family are number one in our lives 8-and to live longer... "

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80408-god-hormones-8.html#post1138629


i don't care if you're 5'6" and your LBM is 190 lbs...you are still considered morbidly obese bigchef... life is precious? then stop being a fat fuck

Just looking at his post and seeing the idiocy and contradictions

1- Yes to some it is, just like eating non stop and being obese is to you ::)

2- 5'6 320lbs, seriously doubt you eat healthy ::)

3- 5'6 320lbs, who are you going to live longer than ::)

4- 5'6 320lbs, so we should follow you? what do you look like? a melted pile of shit ::)

5- 5'6 320lbs, you look fat not big, you are not healthy and you do not eat wisely, a person who eats wisely is not 5'6 320lbs ::)

6- 5'6 320lbs, you dont say ::)

7- 5'6 320lbs, are you sure? ::) your physical state and lifestyle suggest not ::)

8- 5'6 320lbs, see point 3, ::)





Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 02:41:45 AM
lol, "leave gh15 out of this",  then the whole post is about gh15, what a retard then he talks about health at 320 at5' 6 man his colesterol has to be through the roof and probably has so much crap in his arteries, talking about health, wow

i try go read the postings i was curious ,, it dont let me need be member let me see 4-5  pages then block it out,, from what i see though this is some crazy thing going for gh15,, im quite impresed ,,i practicaly rule the all cult of bodybuild ,, i myself dont know how i did it ,, truth i guess,,

in any way ,, when it come to how fellas look whomever talk ...just take a look at the gurus who talk bla bla all day long on the main suplment pushing boardings and the magazine boardings,, fellas like mike arnold ...have you see what this fella look like? doesnt even look like the begining of a bodybuild not even like he lift! ,, just like chunky fella that hodl water from androgens,,very ugly look i mean atleast hav esome shape with size or even just shape...
many of those that talk bad about gh15 never ben bodybuild,, one sentence out of my mouth you can tell i been in this for many many years,, i am practialy walkign and breating bodybuild,, i done it all ,, i been to the top and started from the buttom ,, it is easy to tell from the way i write ,, i spoit out information like it is the book of genesis,, you cant lie to true bodybuildrs,, this is why even the ones who rebel me agree with me! in most cases because they know i am not some fake bodybuild,,

the so call hate to gh15 is for one reason ,, the reason is that i speak the truth,, it is very easy to see i speak true ,, it is enough to go to a week ago when i say dasty is nto bodybuild material and just not suit bodybuild NO MATER who much hgh go into blood,, everyone say oh he is good he is good ,, i keep saying no he is not good,, i make champions! i know what good is,, i say he is no good no mater how much gh he take from china and no matter how much seros he can get his hands on his frame dont fit the top....he just doesnt have the flow .... and you see what happen,, you see yourself what happen what did he get ? not even top 10 ,,

there is no way around me ,, i am a bodybuildr,, i am a bodybuildr who decided to bring the truth out ,, i am a bodybuildr who decided that enough is enough and not only say what i would do if i could do this and that...I ACTUALY DID IT ,, i went on a name gh15 and PUT IT ALL OUT,, so everyone say yes everyone can do it,, really? DID ANYONE DID IT? who did it before me? no one ,, they all were pussy hiding under real names ,, i could not afford risking my contracvts going on my real name so gh15 was created,,

the fact of matter is that if you charge 1000 dolaros for  preping someone or 3000 dolaros or even 600 dolaros...you ned to atleast look! like bodybuild or if not look like bodybuild ...atleast look decently built! no one ask you to have 20 inch arm but atleast look like what you preach ,, this is my opinon ofo the mater,,

if you stand on boaridng as moderate   and get hgh right and left....dont fuckin weight 400 lb ,, a moderate on corputing boards can gt tons of hgh to his hands from supliers who will give him for free,, this is no excuse to be 400lb ,,


do you understand what i am saying here?

you need to have some kind of rules to become moderatr   ,, you cant just make anyone moderator,, you need to have the physiqe and the experience! and doenst mean bodybuild,, you can be built 180lb fella but be built! have expericne with the cult of year over years,, if someone is out of shape his or her place is not in moderating 1000s ofo fellas..and if they are moderating 1000s of fellas they need to know their specalit'e is not trainning and need to keep everything to boarding rules and comply with the rules

there shoudl be a rule that moderate HAS to look like someone who train ,, and in good shape

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2011, 02:44:05 AM
There are some good guys on that board, plenty more good guys got banned because they spoke the truth or outed the scams there.

Bigchef is a complete dick, he abuses his mod position and threatens members with the ''ban'' all the time, im not surprised when i read here that he is a 5'6 300+ lb sack of shit 4iu per day gym warrior ::)

What i hate about that site is the lies, Danta the filth telling people a top pro only uses 400mg Test and a few IU of GH per day in the off season, then swallowing a few anavar tabs prior to a guest posing ::)

Then there are the twinks who think everything is genetics and pro's only use a few mg of this and that and that they eat 10 times per day etc etc ::) this despite BigA posting a thread telling everyone the truth about what you need to take to be a pro.

I cannot get it through my head why morons like Bigchef and Raijin and WW from getbig meltdown over gh15 and seem so butthurt, i have a feeling they have been making money from lies and scams and gh15 has opened peoples eyes and exposed these scumbags

your full of shit! I have never posted on that board. I browse it but never have posted on it. I also have never lied or scammed anybody! Also I have never melted down over Gh15 I get a good laugh out of him that is it! I like breaking his balls because he is easy to piss off. thats all! do I agree with his cycles? not his first cycle reccomendations but he does know what it takes to be a pro. I has pro level knowledege but anybody could get that knowledge after alot of reserach and personal trial. fact is there is no proof GH15 is a pro.I do believe he could be a pro but have also been told he is not a pro. I think it is a pro and another guy behind the account. anyway Gh15 has made up lies about me so that I do not appreciate. I have never lied about anything, the kinds of narcotics I use I am open about because I only use 2 prescription drugs. I am a muslim I dont even drink, never lied about the kind of gear I like I am open about that ,what kind of HGH I like I am open about never have a lied about a thing! and I have never scammed a soul. I have given to people never have taken!

so watch your mouth before you throw my name in the mix. you and I have never had altercations.Never has GH15 pissed me off BESIDES when he makes shit up about me and I just laugh at that as well because that means I am pissing him off to the point he has to lie! I like breaking his balls and trying to piss him off. The guy listens to Addelle for christ sakes and thinks he's cool-lol. I have been honest about my height and weight and bf% I dont lie! I am honest and never fucked anybody over and never will. nobody will come out and say I lied or scammed them because I never have. I dont know about the other guys you mentioned I dont know them but leave my name out of it! Only time Gh15 pissies me off is when he lies about shit. but I mainly just try to break his balls he is an easy man to get a rise out of and he makes me laugh. thats why I like fucking with him. if he wants to make up lies about me thats fine but that just shows me he dosn't know much about me.hell he has been threatening me for like a year! nothing has happened his fallen fairy power is getting weak! Do I think he had anything to do with keeping victor martinez in the states for another 30 days like he claims I dont buy it for a minute but gh15 takes credit for that wich cracks me up. these are the things that I like about him he really thinks he is a powerfull guy with all these crazy government/homeland security connections he is delusional!

he had nothing to do with keeping victor in the states for 30 more days yet he took credit for it-LOL. thats the only thing I fucked with him about lately.For all I care he can keep shooting 2 amps of tren a day, 20IU's of HGH and Bumping  addele while he lifts light weights to get a pump so he can marvel at his 3 dimensional figure in the mirror while he figures out a way to get victor out of jail. I have better shit to do.I am a fearless man ask GH15 thats the one thing he is right about!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 02:52:24 AM
your full of shit! I have never posted on that board. I browse it but never have posted on it. I also have never lied or scammed anybody! Also I have never melted down over Gh15 I get a good laugh out of him that is it! I like breaking his balls because he is easy to piss off. thats all! do I agree with his cycles? not his first cycle reccomendations but he does know what it takes to be a pro. I has pro level knowledege but anybody could get that knowledge after alot of reserach and personal trial. fact is there is no proof GH15 is a pro.I do believe he could be a pro but have also been told he is not a pro. I think it is a pro and another guy behind the account. anyway Gh15 has made up lies about me so that I do not appreciate. I have never lied about anything, the kinds of narcotics I use I am open about because I only use 2 prescription drugs. I am a muslim I dont even drink, never lied about the kind of gear I like I am open about that ,what kind of HGH I like I am open about never have a lied about a thing! and I have never scammed a soul. I have given to people never have taken!

so watch your mouth before you throw my name in the mix. you and I have never had altercations.Never has GH15 pissed me off BESIDES when he makes shit up about me and I just laugh at that as well because that means I am pissing him off to the point he has to lie! I like breaking his balls and trying to piss him off. The guy listens to Addelle for christ sakes and thinks he's cool-lol. I have been honest about my height and weight and bf% I dont lie! I am honest and never fucked anybody over and never will. nobody will come out and say I lied or scammed them because I never have. I dont know about the other guys you mentioned I dont know them but leave my name out of it! Only time Gh15 pissies me off is when he lies about shit. but I mainly just try to break his balls he is an easy man to get a rise out of and he makes me laugh. thats why I like fucking with him. if he wants to make up lies about me thats fine but that just shows me he dosn't know much about me.hell he has been threatening me for like a year! nothing has happened his fallen fairy power is getting weak! Do I think he had anything to do with keeping victor martinez in the states for another 30 days like he claims I dont buy it for a minute but gh15 takes credit for that wich cracks me up. these are the things that I like about him he really thinks he is a powerfull guy with all these crazy government/homeland security connections he is delusional!

he had nothing to do with keeping victor in the states for 30 more days yet he took credit for it-LOL. thats the only thing I fucked with him about lately.For all I care he can keep shooting 2 amps of tren a day, 20IU's of HGH and Bumping  addele while he lifts light weights to get a pump so he can marvel at his 3 dimensional figure in the mirror while he figures out a way to get victor out of jail. I have better shit to do.I am a fearless man ask GH15 thats the one thing he is right about!


a good muslim follower is always fearing god! ,, you need to knwo this about your relegion ,,

and its 90 dyas not 30!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 02:54:14 AM
your full of shit! I have never posted on that board. I browse it but never have posted on it. I also have never lied or scammed anybody! Also I have never melted down over Gh15 I get a good laugh out of him that is it! I like breaking his balls because he is easy to piss off. thats all! do I agree with his cycles? not his first cycle reccomendations but he does know what it takes to be a pro. I has pro level knowledege but anybody could get that knowledge after alot of reserach and personal trial. fact is there is no proof GH15 is a pro.I do believe he could be a pro but have also been told he is not a pro. I think it is a pro and another guy behind the account. anyway Gh15 has made up lies about me so that I do not appreciate. I have never lied about anything, the kinds of narcotics I use I am open about because I only use 2 prescription drugs. I am a muslim I dont even drink, never lied about the kind of gear I like I am open about that ,what kind of HGH I like I am open about never have a lied about a thing! and I have never scammed a soul. I have given to people never have taken!

so watch your mouth before you throw my name in the mix. you and I have never had altercations.Never has GH15 pissed me off BESIDES when he makes shit up about me and I just laugh at that as well because that means I am pissing him off to the point he has to lie! I like breaking his balls and trying to piss him off. The guy listens to Addelle for christ sakes and thinks he's cool-lol. I have been honest about my height and weight and bf% I dont lie! I am honest and never fucked anybody over and never will. nobody will come out and say I lied or scammed them because I never have. I dont know about the other guys you mentioned I dont know them but leave my name out of it! Only time Gh15 pissies me off is when he lies about shit. but I mainly just try to break his balls he is an easy man to get a rise out of and he makes me laugh. thats why I like fucking with him. if he wants to make up lies about me thats fine but that just shows me he dosn't know much about me.hell he has been threatening me for like a year! nothing has happened his fallen fairy power is getting weak! Do I think he had anything to do with keeping victor martinez in the states for another 30 days like he claims I dont buy it for a minute but gh15 takes credit for that wich cracks me up. these are the things that I like about him he really thinks he is a powerfull guy with all these crazy government/homeland security connections he is delusional!

he had nothing to do with keeping victor in the states for 30 more days yet he took credit for it-LOL. thats the only thing I fucked with him about lately.For all I care he can keep shooting 2 amps of tren a day, 20IU's of HGH and Bumping  addele while he lifts light weights to get a pump so he can marvel at his 3 dimensional figure in the mirror while he figures out a way to get victor out of jail. I have better shit to do.I am a fearless man ask GH15 thats the one thing he is right about!


I never said you posted on that board, obviously you melted down so bad you cant read properly ::) i posted ''and WW from getbig''

Dont fucking threaten either you prick, what the fuck are you going to do?

go take your xanex you drug addicted kunt
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: calfzilla on November 20, 2011, 03:01:17 AM
Ron needs to speak in this thread.

Epic battle with gh15 showing his importance to the cult and owning.

gh15 speaks the truth, just some dont want to face the truth.

And how is biga threatening gh15 if none of us know who he is?  Like he said could be Dea.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: bber on November 20, 2011, 03:10:29 AM
You forgot the ratio of

1 gh15 post
10 ass-kissing 'wow i love u guys and it's not just the clomid speaking' posts

'not just the clomid speaking' LMAO!!!!!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 03:13:01 AM
ron doesnt need to speak ,, it is part of boardings ,, freedom of speech is something yuo dont have on biga boarding....in the thunderdome there is FREDOM OF SPEECH,, it is the only place in bodybuild where there is fredom of speach ...you know why i will tell you why ,, becuase the fella who administer this boarding,,his roots...he know what it is to not be able to have freedom of speech ....his pepole history,,germany world war 2 ...this is where there was no fredom of speach ,,  he knows exactly what it is,, this is why this is the only place where you can say your opinion with no fear! ,, there is some rules you cant break of racizm but he let most things go because he know how valuable is fredom of speech

so even what said here! is within catagory of fredom of speech,, but coruption is where freedom of speach doeant mater...thats where the root of all problem sits,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Moen on November 20, 2011, 03:14:15 AM
I like both boards as I'm sure several other people who I see posting regularly on both do as well. You have to be able to deduce correct from incorrect information for yourself and always keep in mind that where money is involved, so will be lies and scamming as a byproduct. It's just the same everywhere in real life as well.

I.e. the pro I've seen mentioned on here a few times: I (and as I'm sure again several of the other, a little more intelligent members) can assure you that what he lets out on the public board vs what he will tell you via private message, are almost inverse opposites. You can't expect someone trying to sell a product to be completely honest because then it won't sell now would it? The % of products out there being sold that are as good as their claims are rather limited I'm afraid  ;D (speaking about all consumer goods, not only supplements!)

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 03:30:40 AM
I like both boards as I'm sure several other people who I see posting regularly on both do as well. You have to be able to deduce correct from incorrect information for yourself and always keep in mind that where money is involved, so will be lies and scamming as a byproduct. It's just the same everywhere in real life as well.

I.e. the pro I've seen mentioned on here a few times: I (and as I'm sure again several of the other, a little more intelligent members) can assure you that what he lets out on the public board vs what he will tell you via private message, are almost inverse opposites. You can't expect someone trying to sell a product to be completely honest because then it won't sell now would it? The % of products out there being sold that are as good as their claims are rather limited I'm afraid  ;D (speaking about all consumer goods, not only supplements!)



do you know how manytime a month do i get request to suport ron paul? and push ron paul? i get it evrry week multiples times from everyone in the cult ,, can you push ron paul gh15 this gh15 that,, if you ever look into ron paul which i did you will see FREEDOM OF SPEECH is one of his main  ideas  ,, fredom to do whatever ! if you ask me and beg me to sponsor him financialy and to help bring him up...atleast make sure you live by what you say,, i told you i hate coruption

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2011, 03:37:52 AM
a good muslim follower is always fearing god! ,, you need to knwo this about your relegion ,,

and its 90 dyas not 30!

gh15 approved

ok 30 days /90 days you had nothing to do with it!your calls did not keep him from getting deported main thing I am trying to get across to everybody and anyone who believes you did have something to do with him being able to stay in the states is crazy. get it through your head your calls did nothing.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Papper on November 20, 2011, 03:51:39 AM
the only forum in history where my ENTIRE 1920x1080 browser window is covered in ads

Yes its atrocious

getbig best thing in the whole internet after facebook

I share this view. The less asskissing the better a forum is. Anonymity rules.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 03:54:49 AM
ok 30 days /90 days you had nothing to do with it!your calls did not keep him from getting deported main thing I am trying to get across to everybody and anyone who believes you did have something to do with him being able to stay in the states is crazy. get it through your head your calls did nothing.

wether i fail or no we will see in janurary,, i may fail you may be happy fella january,, but! atleast i try help

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 03:55:16 AM
Yes its atrocious

I share this view. The less asskissing the better a forum is. Anonymity rules.

Those banner ads cost $1000 per month, BigA is bringing in the $$$
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Theoak* on November 20, 2011, 03:56:25 AM
your full of shit! I have never posted on that board. I browse it but never have posted on it. I also have never lied or scammed anybody! Also I have never melted down over Gh15 I get a good laugh out of him that is it! I like breaking his balls because he is easy to piss off. thats all! do I agree with his cycles? not his first cycle reccomendations but he does know what it takes to be a pro. I has pro level knowledege but anybody could get that knowledge after alot of reserach and personal trial. fact is there is no proof GH15 is a pro.I do believe he could be a pro but have also been told he is not a pro. I think it is a pro and another guy behind the account. anyway Gh15 has made up lies about me so that I do not appreciate. I have never lied about anything, the kinds of narcotics I use I am open about because I only use 2 prescription drugs. I am a muslim I dont even drink, never lied about the kind of gear I like I am open about that ,what kind of HGH I like I am open about never have a lied about a thing! and I have never scammed a soul. I have given to people never have taken!

so watch your mouth before you throw my name in the mix. you and I have never had altercations.Never has GH15 pissed me off BESIDES when he makes shit up about me and I just laugh at that as well because that means I am pissing him off to the point he has to lie! I like breaking his balls and trying to piss him off. The guy listens to Addelle for christ sakes and thinks he's cool-lol. I have been honest about my height and weight and bf% I dont lie! I am honest and never fucked anybody over and never will. nobody will come out and say I lied or scammed them because I never have. I dont know about the other guys you mentioned I dont know them but leave my name out of it! Only time Gh15 pissies me off is when he lies about shit. but I mainly just try to break his balls he is an easy man to get a rise out of and he makes me laugh. thats why I like fucking with him. if he wants to make up lies about me thats fine but that just shows me he dosn't know much about me.hell he has been threatening me for like a year! nothing has happened his fallen fairy power is getting weak! Do I think he had anything to do with keeping victor martinez in the states for another 30 days like he claims I dont buy it for a minute but gh15 takes credit for that wich cracks me up. these are the things that I like about him he really thinks he is a powerfull guy with all these crazy government/homeland security connections he is delusional!

he had nothing to do with keeping victor in the states for 30 more days yet he took credit for it-LOL. thats the only thing I fucked with him about lately.For all I care he can keep shooting 2 amps of tren a day, 20IU's of HGH and Bumping  addele while he lifts light weights to get a pump so he can marvel at his 3 dimensional figure in the mirror while he figures out a way to get victor out of jail. I have better shit to do.I am a fearless man ask GH15 thats the one thing he is right about!


As soon as I saw that you are muslim I stopped reading, thats fucking disgusting.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2011, 04:02:48 AM
I never said you posted on that board, obviously you melted down so bad you cant read properly ::) i posted ''and WW from getbig''

Dont fucking threaten either you prick, what the fuck are you going to do?

go take your xanex you drug addicted kunt

meltdown!First off I read what you said/ WW from getbig,why even toss my name in there? have I been aat war with Gh15 lately besides the victor martinez thing?My opinion he had nothing to do with victor not getting deported and you know I am right. I was just letting all of you know I dont hardly go to that site. I dont know the situation with these other mods. I have not threatened anybody this is the internet that would make me look like a internet tough guy wich I am not. I am not sure why you are mad at me. You and I have never had any altercations. xanax is hardly a drug it's a schedule 4 drug. hell marijuana is a schedule 1 drug. so how would that make me a druggie when I am using something way less classified than weed? I dont even think people who smoke weed are drug addicts. My point is your dead wrong I mess with Gh15 just to try to piss him off when he talks crazy calling himself god and how his fairy dust will get you in the end. makes me laugh! also the whole victor martinez thing is a riot him taking credit for victor still being in the states. thats a crock of shit! anyone who believes that is very gullible. see you know I take xanax because I admitted it I dont lie! I am muslim Gh15 and I dont fear anyone not even god. Im good with who I am. I am a honest man ask me a question and you get the truth. schmoe buster I don't know why you are angry at me when have we ever had beef? never. do I ever talk bad about you?No. I had respect for you but then you talk shit about me calling me a moron. sounds like the other mods on Pm are morons I dont consider myself a moron. I am alot smarter than you may think..just because I mess around in the gossip and opinion section here and there everybody does that. check where 90% of my 4,300 post are and they are in the steroid section where I am serious and dont bullshit around. Like I said i thought you were a decent guy why all of a sudden do you want to call me names and compare me to these other mods?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 04:06:35 AM
gh15, you should know better than to threaten me as you know that I am one of the very few that brings shit to real life, not just contained by the internet.

Your "elf"   ::) broke the board rules. He fucked up. Simple as that.


and what board rule did i break? I didnt read the "dont talk about gh15 rule" anywhere??
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 04:08:06 AM
Those banner ads cost $1000 per month, BigA is bringing in the $$$

the actual operation of boarding is a mater of lots of you do me this i do you this,, ,,favours,, it is good income,, but! i have few rules as gh15,,

i can not let fellas get sick on products,, there iwl be big big report im bringin out on insulina sold as humangrowth hormone ,, yes you hear this right ,, not on profesional muscle persay ,,but from some scambag so call new supliers,, yes insulina SOLD AS human growth hormone ,, and anti duretic sold as human growth hormone,, very sad storys of fellass who fell their kidnys hurt and think they are on legit gh ,, your ears will fall when you hear this ,, but it willcome out ,, felals who walk with girlfriend to see a show and cant walk becusd they complain their back is aching and hurting,, they are on hgh.... yes solwn everywhere with out actualy 3 dimentional growth,, comlainnign their back is hurting exactly under the ribs...both sides,, yes yes ,, INSULINA AND ANTI DIURETIC SOLD AS HGH,,

so on one hand i have markus from steroidcom that tell all bad things abotu china ghwhich ofcourse is not true sine both kigtropin and nordic gh are superb gh very hgih quality,, then i have the fellas on other bpardings pimping out insulina and anti diuretic as gh,,,thats what im sayign as in walking the line,, you have to know what you are doing ,, a gh15 cant be some kido ,, i have both side fighting for my attention ,, and yes the truth is that some gh from chin ais catastrophic but some gh from china is superb ,, and before gh15 no one knew a from b ,, now day it is much more clarified ,, things like that sometime are brushed in a boarding due to sells and profit ,, in the thunderdome its not....this is why everyone coime here,, this is why moment everyone open eyes in the morning they go read the bible ,,no balonie

gh15 approved

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: TrueGrit on November 20, 2011, 04:12:44 AM
5'6 and 320lbs. There is no way that can look good. No fucking way.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2011, 04:13:55 AM
sorry to hear about the ban. try to give some good advice and thats what you get very shitty board-IMO. I think they had a convicted child moleste get bustedr as a moderator back in 2005-2006. so you cant trust their mods after all. Big A's judgement is shit. and he is a spam salesman!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 04:16:22 AM
Just looking at his post and seeing the idiocy and contradictions

1- Yes to some it is, just like eating non stop and being obese is to you ::)

2- 5'6 320lbs, seriously doubt you eat healthy ::)

3- 5'6 320lbs, who are you going to live longer than ::)

4- 5'6 320lbs, so we should follow you? what do you look like? a melted pile of shit ::)

5- 5'6 320lbs, you look fat not big, you are not healthy and you do not eat wisely, a person who eats wisely is not 5'6 320lbs ::)

6- 5'6 320lbs, you dont say ::)

7- 5'6 320lbs, are you sure? ::) your physical state and lifestyle suggest not ::)

8- 5'6 320lbs, see point 3, ::)
Funny shit !  lol  ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2011, 04:23:12 AM
As soon as I saw that you are muslim I stopped reading, thats fucking disgusting.

why? I am actually what is called a 95%er. supreme allah
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: TrueGrit on November 20, 2011, 04:50:47 AM
BigChef BigChef is online now
Moderator / Kilo Klub Member
        
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Down Under
Posts: 3,515
Seriously gh15 is a carpet installer. Most of the bodybuilding forums has his IP and tracking him down. You be surprised what we have found. We are going to bring him down. The mods are joining forces across community. Stay tune.....


Wow, internet business = serious business. The MODS are joining forces!!!! Oh noes!!!!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 04:52:27 AM
LOL @ "carpet installer" !!  ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 04:55:59 AM
what's sad is biga is no doubt a follower of gh15, he doesn't want to admit it because he has his own circle of power over there and to admit it is to compromise his pull with all the people who have talked trash about gh15 who follow biga, if you kept quiet you could have just done what gh15 said quickly and no one would have said a thing... the guys who go around defending gh15 are not assholes, there would not have been thread after thread on your board rubbing it in your face that gh15 told you what to do. business is business, you should have treated it that way

Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: trapz101 on November 20, 2011, 05:14:55 AM
pm site is like shit worse than bb.com
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: madg on November 20, 2011, 05:19:03 AM
shame on u b-boy for go there and spoil the nice 'is all genetics ,give your money for snake oil plx' atmosphere...shame on u !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 05:23:42 AM
ok, i like da guy as much as anyone but i notice that he is now dominating the board and there are about 6 or 7 threads a day about him. lots of these "who is he" ones and lots of finger pointing. this is getting a bit stale. also, a lot of his posts are steroid related so why not have them on the steroid board?

maybe give him the gh15 board? so those people dat ONLY post about him and want to know about pro steroid cycles can have their daily fix of tren and HGH related posts.

like i say i like da guy so no need for his beta ass-lickers to attack me, i'm actually trying to give them more access 24/7 to his hole for rimming purposes!!!!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 05:24:03 AM
meltdown!First off I read what you said/ WW from getbig,why even toss my name in there? have I been aat war with Gh15 lately besides the victor martinez thing?My opinion he had nothing to do with victor not getting deported and you know I am right. I was just letting all of you know I dont hardly go to that site. I dont know the situation with these other mods. I have not threatened anybody this is the internet that would make me look like a internet tough guy wich I am not. I am not sure why you are mad at me. You and I have never had any altercations. xanax is hardly a drug it's a schedule 4 drug. hell marijuana is a schedule 1 drug. so how would that make me a druggie when I am using something way less classified than weed? I dont even think people who smoke weed are drug addicts. My point is your dead wrong I mess with Gh15 just to try to piss him off when he talks crazy calling himself god and how his fairy dust will get you in the end. makes me laugh! also the whole victor martinez thing is a riot him taking credit for victor still being in the states. thats a crock of shit! anyone who believes that is very gullible. see you know I take xanax because I admitted it I dont lie! I am muslim Gh15 and I dont fear anyone not even god. Im good with who I am. I am a honest man ask me a question and you get the truth. schmoe buster I don't know why you are angry at me when have we ever had beef? never. do I ever talk bad about you?No. I had respect for you but then you talk shit about me calling me a moron. sounds like the other mods on Pm are morons I dont consider myself a moron. I am alot smarter than you may think..just because I mess around in the gossip and opinion section here and there everybody does that. check where 90% of my 4,300 post are and they are in the steroid section where I am serious and dont bullshit around. Like I said i thought you were a decent guy why all of a sudden do you want to call me names and compare me to these other mods?

I was not comparing you to FatChef and Gayjin, i just mentioned your name as you seem to be so anti gh15

you told me to shut my mouth, i took that as i threat, we have the right to express opinions here freely so i expressed mine, if you agree or disagree with what i post thats your right

I have always been civil to you on the steroid board and respect your opinions on the subject
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 05:24:49 AM
Yes
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 05:26:06 AM
haha, gayer than writin an open letter to an internet forum cuz they hurt ur feelings. lolz.

Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Tito24 on November 20, 2011, 05:29:29 AM
(http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/4/85%20Yeah.%20Youre%20a%20Douchebag.jpg)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 05:32:16 AM
the actual operation of boarding is a mater of lots of you do me this i do you this,, ,,favours,, it is good income,, but! i have few rules as gh15,,

i can not let fellas get sick on products,, there iwl be big big report im bringin out on insulina sold as humangrowth hormone ,, yes you hear this right ,, not on profesional muscle persay ,,but from some scambag so call new supliers,, yes insulina SOLD AS human growth hormone ,, and anti duretic sold as human growth hormone,, very sad storys of fellass who fell their kidnys hurt and think they are on legit gh ,, your ears will fall when you hear this ,, but it willcome out ,, felals who walk with girlfriend to see a show and cant walk becusd they complain their back is aching and hurting,, they are on hgh.... yes solwn everywhere with out actualy 3 dimentional growth,, comlainnign their back is hurting exactly under the ribs...both sides,, yes yes ,, INSULINA AND ANTI DIURETIC SOLD AS HGH,,

so on one hand i have markus from steroidcom that tell all bad things abotu china ghwhich ofcourse is not true sine both kigtropin and nordic gh are superb gh very hgih quality,, then i have the fellas on other bpardings pimping out insulina and anti diuretic as gh,,,thats what im sayign as in walking the line,, you have to know what you are doing ,, a gh15 cant be some kido ,, i have both side fighting for my attention ,, and yes the truth is that some gh from chin ais catastrophic but some gh from china is superb ,, and before gh15 no one knew a from b ,, now day it is much more clarified ,, things like that sometime are brushed in a boarding due to sells and profit ,, in the thunderdome its not....this is why everyone coime here,, this is why moment everyone open eyes in the morning they go read the bible ,,no balonie

gh15 approved



Yes there are too many conflicts of interest on boardings like professionalmuscle, if a source pays the $1000 they will make sure no one posts bad things about the source even if the source is select scamming, the sources there ''sponsor'' some of the vet posters with gear (good quality gear) then that poster kisses the sources ass and raves about them in many posts so others think its good and buy from them, if someone posts a complaint about a source that is paying for ad space then they get banned, sure business is business but scamming is scamming.
There are good legit sources that advertise, only a few scumbags are scammers
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 05:34:37 AM
too much drug talk on da g and o these days. this stuff belongs on the steriod board.
Title: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 05:47:14 AM
Why does that fat fuck Alice have a board of his own but not our beloved God of hormones? Give him ultimate mod powers on that board so he can freely ban the haters while his pupils can ask him questions et cetera.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 05:50:46 AM
"swallowbatter" i already make this thread.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=402857.0

post in that and help Ron keep the clutter and multiple threads on the same topic down.
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 05:51:18 AM
Thanks, Alice.
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 05:52:47 AM
not him. it's been confirmed many times. funny tho that u kiss his ass when he uses the gh15 account  :-*
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: MikMaq on November 20, 2011, 05:53:21 AM
Why does that fat fuck Alice have a board of his own but not our beloved God of hormones? Give him ultimate mod powers on that board so he can freely ban the haters while his pupils can ask him questions et cetera.

Thanks.
Gh15 creates the only on topic content on the fucking board.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 05:55:52 AM
Gh15 creates the only on topic content on the fucking board.
wrong; his advice is on-topic for the steriod board or the newly formed gh15 board.
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: claymore on November 20, 2011, 05:58:45 AM
"Ron, we want a gh15 board"...No we don't.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 05:58:52 AM
what a motherfucking kiss ass, there's not more threads about him today than other day, you simply got a glimpse of the power he has in no one's thread and now you think it's appropriate you start kissing ass. if you want to endear yourself to people with power, try to have a good memory because they'll let you kiss their ass but they wont forget your lack of integrity. you like him lol
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Tito24 on November 20, 2011, 05:59:38 AM
gh's family should post here as well
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 06:02:05 AM
what a motherfucking kiss ass, there's not more threads about him today than other day, you simply got a glimpse of the power he has in no one's thread and now you think it's appropriate you start kissing ass. if you want to endear yourself to people with power, try to have a good memory because they'll let you kiss their ass but they wont forget your lack of integrity. you like him lol
The internet is serious power. 
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 06:02:30 AM
what a motherfucking kiss ass, there's not more threads about him today than other day, you simply got a glimpse of the power he has in no one's thread and now you think it's appropriate you start kissing ass. if you want to endear yourself to people with power, try to have a good memory because they'll let you kiss their ass but they wont forget your lack of integrity. you like him lol

this sounds like a jumble of hurt butt. yes, i recognize da power of gh15 and it's ruining the g and o and needs it's own board so everyone is happy and u have a chance to eat the dingleberries from his HGH enlarged butthairs!
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 20, 2011, 06:04:40 AM
gh's family should post here as well
Yeah, his father gh14 and his son, gh16...
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 06:05:49 AM
"Ron, we want a gh15 board"...No we don't.

think about it, bro. the G and O goes back to normal and is free from drug addicts always discussing their drug protocols , and a million "who is gh15" threads and the people that suck his ass can post to their hearts contend about their hero without spamming the main board.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 06:07:44 AM
what do u mean goes back to, he's been around since before you registered
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 20, 2011, 06:07:54 AM
gh15 is like a terrific Oscar winning movie, but when you've seen it a dozen times you wanna watch something else...
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 06:10:47 AM
what do u mean goes back to, he's been around since before you registered

but he never dominted the board back then. he is not so much the problem but more so it is the ass-kisser betas that parrot the parrot. a gh15 board solves all problems and gives you worshippers more access to the ifbb pro that won't post his pro card.  8)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 06:14:56 AM
 ::)

Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 06:16:05 AM
gh15 is like a terrific Oscar winning movie, but when you've seen it a dozen times you wanna watch something else...

exactly. it's like watching "The Great Escape" at Christmas as Grandpa snores and u pretend Grandma didn't just fart.

comes a time when "HGH and tren very good, get u big" and "gh15 is alex and nasser from the trencave" "gh15 just posted a funny" runs its course.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Tito24 on November 20, 2011, 06:16:23 AM
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/nasser-office.png)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 06:16:41 AM
change the channel  ;)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Secret Stack on November 20, 2011, 06:16:55 AM
the g&o IS the gh15 board!

deal with it.

getbig.com 2011.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 06:18:02 AM
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/nasser-office.png)

insane traps and forearms.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 06:19:20 AM
the g&o IS the gh15 board!

deal with it.

getbig.com 2011.

NEWSFLASH: we're taking our board back.

deltaforce approved!!!
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: tendonitis on November 20, 2011, 06:22:48 AM
not him. it's been confirmed many times. funny tho that u kiss his ass when he uses the gh15 account  :-*

More lies from FatChazBono23.  Quit your crying and bitching about gh15 you fat french douche.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 06:24:53 AM
I for one am glad b-boy's been banned on cockmuscle.com, because now he'll post here more often. 8)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: tendonitis on November 20, 2011, 06:26:04 AM
NEWSFLASH: we're taking our board back.

deltaforce approved!!!

Chaz Gauthier can't even spell the name of his own gimmick right.
Don't be so jealous of gh15 you sterile fat fuck.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Tito24 on November 20, 2011, 06:28:07 AM
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/nasserOffice.jpg)
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: Tito24 on November 20, 2011, 06:30:09 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302932.0;attach=344393;image)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Secret Stack on November 20, 2011, 06:30:34 AM
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/nasserOffice.jpg)

take a picture of me while i type something.......on desktop  ???
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dr.chimps on November 20, 2011, 07:03:00 AM
320@5'6"!?  Now there's a guy who needs a breather between the bedroom and the toilet. Oh brother.   
Title: Re: Ron, we want a gh15 board
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 20, 2011, 07:06:29 AM
DeltaForce = one hell of a movie, but one hell of a shitty poster. :/
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 07:07:56 AM
320@5'6"!?  Now there's a guy who needs a breather between the bedroom and the toilet. Oh brother.   
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SunShinesfussfuss/Poster-TheySeeMeRollin.jpg)

Maybe not!  :)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 07:24:23 AM
nobody loses and everybody wins!!! the worshippers get a temple for their idolatry and the forum becomes Ron's again and a hive of multiple activities.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 07:29:08 AM
Chaz Gauthier can't even spell the name of his own gimmick right.
Don't be so jealous of gh15 you sterile fat fuck.

you won't believe me but i respect you; the things you have sacrificed in order to save the board from evil fatalex is astonishing.

no job for you - you have to wait for people you think are alex to post so you post the many saved alex pics you have on your hardrive.

no partner - sex is a luxury an alex-crazed person cannot afford to indulge in.

no money - how can one work and earn a fortune like alex23 when u have to be online in case he posts!

no home ownership - mom's basement is perfectly adequate as a base for alex23 monitoring and active stalking operations.

tendon, we salute u. to sacrifice ur life on the altar if k23 devotion is a mighty and noble act.  8)

Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: newmom on November 20, 2011, 07:29:31 AM
wonder what's in the harley box
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 07:31:25 AM
gh15 is da shit!!! he owns little tits right and left

FUCK THE OTHER BOARDS

if there was a big cage and board members teaming up to fight members from another boards, getbig would destroy these little tits, no mercy

look how they always talk about getbig and gh15, oh man i got banned from german boards because i just can't resist to say what i really think! and that's ok, censurship is for fags and 5 6 320lbs pieces of shit
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: newmom on November 20, 2011, 07:35:06 AM
LOL! @ 300 pounds at 5'6
anyone have any pics of this fat fuck big chef?
 

I legit LMAO
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: newmom on November 20, 2011, 07:36:09 AM
omg LMAO at joining forces..WTF
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: L.L on November 20, 2011, 07:41:08 AM
Big Chef is a fucking punk , full of envy because his fat ass never been in shape. He has his nose so far up BIG A's is not even funny. All mods there are on a power trip and physically look like shit.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Borracho on November 20, 2011, 07:41:42 AM
5'6 and 320lbs. There is no way that can look good. No fucking way.

(http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/134000/134345_fat_midget_stripper.jpg)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 20, 2011, 07:42:00 AM
 tendonitis , overlord warrior of the basement realm, just posted nasty informations towards me. i'm going to "do a no one" and write and open letter about how upset i am and ask my cyber-friends to gang up on the baddie, yeah, fuck yeah, cyber army power here we go. lemonade anybody?

after i've finished crying i'm going to invite my girlfriends over to eat a big box of candy and we will watch terms of endearment and fried green tomatoes together, laugh and cry, and talk about what brutes men are.


















MAN THE FUCK UP. FFS.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: el numero uno on November 20, 2011, 07:43:58 AM
WTF? 320 @ 5'6? He's a walking heart-attack.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 07:44:18 AM
delta force gets an A for effort lol, whatever he is trying to accomplish, he is trying hard, but it seems that he is confused between kissing ass and talking shit, pick one and go with it is my advice
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 07:51:02 AM

hahahaha at living longer :D


i could sniff 20gr kokaina a day and would live longer than that fat piece of mutated denny de vito cokchead
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: L.L on November 20, 2011, 07:52:20 AM
just started a thread over there called " face to a name"...calling out BIG CHEF ,RAJJIN  to post pics of what they look llike so we can believe in them ..got a feeling my ass will be banned..lol
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: newmom on November 20, 2011, 07:54:01 AM
hahahaha at living longer :D


i could sniff 20gr kokaina a day and would live longer than that fat piece of mutated denny de vito cokchead

hahahhaha LMAO
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 07:55:02 AM
just started a thread over there called " face to a name"...calling out BIG CHEF ,RAJJIN  to post pics of what they look llike so we can believe in them ..got a feeling my ass will be banned..lol
slinpimp banned from PM in 4....3.....2.....1  :'(
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: L.L on November 20, 2011, 07:58:34 AM
i dont give a damn...lol...I cant believe they banned you after all these years and how mcuh youve contributed to that site..damn ..PM isnt what it used to be...reason why a lot of people dont post there no more.




link.


http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80526-face-name.html
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 08:04:17 AM
i dont give a damn...lol...I cant believe they banned you after all these years and how mcuh youve contributed to that site..damn ..PM isnt what it used to be...reason why a lot of people dont post there no more.




link.


http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80526-face-name.html
I agree completely that it is not what it use to be..... wish i could read your thread but i can only go to the banned forum, hell in the banned forum i have talked more with BIG A than i have in the 9yrs I been on that board.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chaos on November 20, 2011, 08:23:07 AM
Lol @ crying about being banned on the internet. ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 08:28:32 AM
Lol @ crying about being banned on the internet. ;D
naw im crying more about censorship on the internet.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chaos on November 20, 2011, 08:30:24 AM
Getbig isn't censored like that....just sayin. :)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dustin on November 20, 2011, 08:30:46 AM
Pro Muscle is a shit board full of scammers and shills. Their mods are corrupt and protect scammers too.

I suggest that people don't do simply business with anyone from that site. There are some good sources but too many scammers to risk doing business there.

I don't engage in drama outside of a few flames back and fourth in good fun, but when people scam others and fuck with people in real life that's going way too far. Fuck that shit. At the end of the day, no one should be fucked with in real life. Stay safe, fellas.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: aesthetics on November 20, 2011, 08:32:16 AM
That board sux!!

Too damn "clicky"..............if you post something they don`t like,see ya` !  :(

the root word of what you are looking for is clique, for future reference
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Stavios on November 20, 2011, 08:41:37 AM
LOL at "mods are joining forces"  ;D

Who the fuck are these clowns  ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 08:45:12 AM
hahahahahahahha ich swear thank god i found back to getbig, nearly as entertaining as FB

modas joining forces hahaha are u ficking jedi knights or what u fat lying pieces of shit :D haha

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Stavios on November 20, 2011, 08:48:34 AM
That's why in the end, everybody always comes back to getbig.
freedom
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Tito24 on November 20, 2011, 08:49:04 AM
That's why in the end, everybody always comes back to getbig.
freedom

hi ron
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 08:49:26 AM
tendonitis , overlord warrior of the basement realm, just posted nasty informations towards me. i'm going to "do a no one" and write and open letter about how upset i am and ask my cyber-friends to gang up on the baddie, yeah, fuck yeah, cyber army power here we go. lemonade anybody?

after i've finished crying i'm going to invite my girlfriends over to eat a big box of candy and we will watch terms of endearment and fried green tomatoes together, laugh and cry, and talk about what brutes men are.


















MAN THE FUCK UP. FFS.

heyalexchazzbono28 why not go off yourself already?  your not missed here or wanted. maybe shoot nasser a few hundred to come over and watch football with you this afternoon so you can pretend you have a friend you socially stunted fuck.

isnt there a large ebony women from craigslist you should be wresting somewhere?

beat it, fatboy.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chaos on November 20, 2011, 08:49:47 AM
Iranianneck....are you high?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 08:51:47 AM
Iranianneck....are you high?

just one haze joint brother :D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: el numero uno on November 20, 2011, 08:57:45 AM
hi ron

 ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 20, 2011, 08:58:48 AM
I've had no problem with the PM mods ever, though yesterday I did a post about that bitch Massive Vagina on the gh15 thread.
My post disappeared. Massive Vagina comes on complaining about anonymous "gurus" like gh15, yet he has no clear pics of himself anywhere. Just one tiny ass avatar, same one he's had for more than a decade. Only thing you can tell is that there's some muscle but legs look like 15% bodyfat sausages and he's parading it on-stage.

If you're going to complain about forum posters being anonymous you better put up some real pics and a name, no? This guy is the epitome of an anonymous internet guru who posts about his 200mg a week cycles while putting sub-200lb kids on multi-gram stacks in real life.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=385567.75
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 09:03:47 AM
and what board rule did i break? I didnt read the "dont talk about gh15 rule" anywhere??

you didnt break any rule- thats part of the problem- over moderation and over censorship of that board, not that i care i lost interest in that board a long time ago. all that brought me back to it was your post cause i knew what would happen- that thread would eventually get locked down-  and i wanted to see if i would be right.

everyone likes to bash on GB. say its a bunch of kids blah blah blah- most of the time its those who dont have the balls to post here saying it. i can guarantee GB is the most visited bbing board online and i wouldnt hesitate to say there are probably a lot more guys who post here with pro potential than any other board, including promuscle- so to bigchef and rajjin- suck a big dick. they think they've got the keys to the magic kingdom over there 'were the best cause we've got the biggest members' lol what a couple of simple minded children.

why is promuscle so heavily moderated? what about scamming source protection? i have heard there are sources there that have ripped people off, or do and then people get banned when it happens for complaining. is this true or bullshit?

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Stavios on November 20, 2011, 09:04:20 AM
hi ron
hi mars, this is your fearless leader Ron speaking.
I am proud of your work
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dustin on November 20, 2011, 09:05:19 AM
I've had no problem with the PM mods ever, though yesterday I did a post about that bitch Massive Vagina on the gh15 thread.
My post disappeared. Massive Vagina comes on complaining about anonymous "gurus" like gh15, yet he has no clear pics of himself anywhere. Just one tiny ass avatar, same one he's had for more than a decade. Only thing you can tell is that there's some muscle but legs look like 15% bodyfat sausages and he's parading it on-stage.

If you're going to complain about forum posters being anonymous you better put up some real pics and a name, no? This guy is the epitome of an anonymous internet guru who posts about his 200mg a week cycles while putting sub-200lb kids on multi-gram stacks in real life.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=385567.75


No kidding. They freak out at Danta's board if gear is mentioned. If they do mention anything it's 200mg of test cyp every blue moon, a couple clomid and a shot of HCG during their very frequently recommended off periods, then a thimble of another test ester 6 months later. A tablet of anavar or t-bol every couple of weeks may be recommended for off season training too. ::)

I saw a few cycles back in the day from some Massive Va-Gee and Skip trainees and it was ridiculous. Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates doses all the way  for kids competing in local shows. I thought it was nothing more than slander at the time, but now I can see that they were serious cycles and doses.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dyslexic on November 20, 2011, 09:13:37 AM
you didnt break any rule- thats part of the problem- over moderation and over censorship of that board, not that i care i lost interest in that board a long time ago. all that brought me back to it was your post cause i knew what would happen- that thread would eventually get locked down-  and i wanted to see if i would be right.

everyone likes to bash on GB. say its a bunch of kids blah blah blah- most of the time its those who dont have the balls to post here saying it. i can guarantee GB is the most visited bbing board online and i wouldnt hesitate to say there are probably a lot more guys who post here with pro potential than any other board, including promuscle- so to bigchef and rajjin- suck a big dick. they think they've got the keys to the magic kingdom over there 'were the best cause we've got the biggest members' lol what a couple of simple minded children.

why is promuscle so heavily moderated? what about scamming source protection? i have heard there are sources there that have ripped people off, or do and then people get banned when it happens for complaining. is this true or bullshit?




I know that when I mention the fact that I believe there are a lot of "kids" here, I don't believe they are posting much, if at all. I think they are just highly impressionable and that is what bothers me when the *truth* gets so skewed.


Yeah, we can all be assholes and imbeciles, but I just want to clarify  what I mean when I say there are a bunch of kids here.


And I am not saying that the kids don't post, I just believe that there is a lot of perusing and their little heads are like sponges. They believe everything they read and they probably love the WYHI threads...


Who knows?


I know this place attracts a lot of attention for various reasons.. some good, some bad, some obnoxious and some just plain insane. It is something that none of the other boards offers, and if they did, it would take them a lifetime to build up to the reputation that this board has, which, in my mind would be interesting to hear on the topic of "popular opinion"
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 09:13:43 AM
the root word of what you are looking for is clique, for future reference

I knew that genious!!
 ::)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: aesthetics on November 20, 2011, 09:17:05 AM
I knew that genious!!
 ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: jude2 on November 20, 2011, 10:07:21 AM
yesterday if not mistake ,, big a got leter from oneof my elfs,, that leter was very clear,, VERY CLEAR,, i got this copy of the letter to me early today ,, now as i told you before my elfs are very impoortent to me,, my top elfs are UNTOUCHABLE ,, you touch them you lose more than your boarding,, i make it clear here very clear here first i dotn know if my elf want to be there he just say he ban there ,, i dont folow what go there but i got detail explanation from my elfs on there,, and i have few elfs there ,, they explain situation with moderator name chef,, the top elf wrote he say to biga ,, so now since i got detail explanation and I TOLD YOU that if something get to me it is too late to retract,, i tell it here very clear,, I GIVE A WEEK! FOR my top elf to get back on the boarding,, top elf tarzan on profesional muscles boarding,, i dont care if he want it or not ,,  I WANT IT ,, or get the moderator out of moderator position ,, this is to th eadministator of site of profesional muscle,, big a

the description i got is of coruption from all my elfs there,,

if this doesnt happen and my top elf doesnt get back out of the ban and again i doesnt care if he want to be there or not I WANT HIM TO BE THERE NOW! ,, if he doesnt get out ban and coruption not go away ,, there wil be hell to pay

i will out every selective scam oneby one i will analize direct product from bad suppliers there including ,,i will make sure this boarding has no credability in regard to sources ,, for not to forget! it is money that run the boarding ,, money that come from bodybuilders,,its not enough to have a boarding  friends you need clients and customers to buy for the sponsor to pay money for his slot on boarding,,

read this posting carfuly ,, you want to comply with what i said here one way or another,, this is serious

gh15 approved
If this is true and PM goes down than we must all beleive in gh15. It proves he has the power he claims. IF nothing happens then he is fake.  This shit is getting golden. Phil H must be shitting on himself right now.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chaos on November 20, 2011, 10:13:15 AM
Lmao....boards come and go, most that post there have already said people have stopped posting due to censorship....six months from now when just 3 guys are posting there, gh15 will come running in....."See wut I did? Gh15 maid these boarding deesapear....blah blah blah...."

Lol!! ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: bike nut on November 20, 2011, 10:40:51 AM
gh23 would have had that board shut down sooner, but many of his elves were on loan to Santa for the Christmas season.

Internets is serious bidness.
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
exactly. it's like watching "The Great Escape" at Christmas as Grandpa snores and u pretend Grandma didn't just fart.


L O L
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
...goes down? fake?  ::)
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: BiGHer on November 20, 2011, 10:56:21 AM
Listen, whether it's in the G&O section or they give gh15 his own board here on getbig, I don't care.  The info he gives is gold and its free.  If you don't like his info then just don't read it.  I can see why you'd be frustrated about his presence dominating a lot of threads, but think about how much traffic he brings to getbig.  I'd love to see the fluctuation in #'s of the site traffic each time he starts a new thread about a pro protocol or answers a good PM question.

If he releases phase 4 which many have been waiting on, I'd love to see how many views that gets lol.  gh15 is in a big way, a cornerstone of getbig.  Love him, hate him, it don't matter.  People read his stuff... period.  Doesn't matter if it's Nasser or my grandmother's dog who recently past away.  If you are looking for a laid out path to becoming an IFBB pro, he gives it to you... FREE.

People need to not worry about who he is or where he posts... just that he posts and keeps posting. 
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: Wiggs on November 20, 2011, 11:01:44 AM
Listen, whether it's in the G&O section or they give gh15 his own board here on getbig, I don't care.  The info he gives is gold and its free.  If you don't like his info then just don't read it.  I can see why you'd be frustrated about his presence dominating a lot of threads, but think about how much traffic he brings to getbig.  I'd love to see the fluctuation in #'s of the site traffic each time he starts a new thread about a pro protocol or answers a good PM question.

If he releases phase 4 which many have been waiting on, I'd love to see how many views that gets lol.  gh15 is in a big way, a cornerstone of getbig.  Love him, hate him, it don't matter.  People read his stuff... period.  Doesn't matter if it's Nasser or my grandmother's dog who recently past away.  If you are looking for a laid out path to becoming an IFBB pro, he gives it to you... FREE.

People need to not worry about who he is or where he posts... just that he posts and keeps posting. 

Good post.  He's delusional as fuck about life but he knows his hormones.  He's the Ron Paul of bodybuilding upsetting the status quo.lol
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
If this is true and PM goes down than we must all beleive in gh15. It proves he has the power he claims. IF nothing happens then he is fake.  This shit is getting golden. Phil H must be shitting on himself right now.

you cant bring down a boarding when so much money is involve,, you have many good supliers ,, many fellas i know that are goo decent fellas,, as i say before i like big a overall ,, it is the inability to control some moderate who are power freak that the problem,,with boarding it is all who give money and i giv you this you give me that,, what i did till i heard the situation was always think of biga as the good fella so i would just let many rumor skip ,, i woudnt go into things,, i would just let it flow...because i like the fella and that he shed truth about bodybuild,,

when you look in the sitution eventhouhg i cant read iti all because it wont let me over there as i say you can only read few pages then it block it unless register,,but when you look in tth eistuation ,,there are fellas in high position there as moderato that work base on hate,,they have nothign to di with bodybuild WHILE BIG A is bodybuildr and has to do with bodybuild,,some moderate there i know re good like the arms fella if not mistake and few others,, they are profesional but some are just not meant to be moderte and corupt ..yet again as i said boarding in general is you do somethign for me and i do something for you ,,veyr few are like kerius that when say somethign it is the end no argument and work with honesty and integrity ,, very few like that

a boarding will alwys exist as long as you have fellas who are willing to buy ,, the only way to close shop is when operation like ord came and fellas were too all over the place before hand and got warnings,,

rule number 1 ,, administrator of boarding never treaten anyone and alays act in tact and cary his boarding name with pride,, that men listen to all comlains and know how to throw out moderate who are corupt

rule number 2,, moderare atleast look somewhat built,, some decent shape and with large expericne with bodybuild

rule number 3....NO NEWS LETTERS INTO MAILINGS

rule number 4,, never fuck fellas up the ass because some fellas can get very sick from using bad products that is nto what it say it is and then when someone get very sick it may destroy a boarding


this is the tules of boarding operation abc

 
i never say i destroy boarding ,, i say i can bring to light informations that i never do because of felllas i feel are are true bodybuild and i give benefit of doubt,, but! i also never talk about narcotic in bodybuild and pain killer...doesnt mean if i dotn talk abotu it that its not there,, i never talk about how to add insuklina with exact doses....doesnt mean it is nto there

gh15 approved
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 11:18:13 AM
Lmao....boards come and go, most that post there have already said people have stopped posting due to censorship....six months from now when just 3 guys are posting there, gh15 will come running in....."See wut I did? Gh15 maid these boarding deesapear....blah blah blah...."

Lol!! ;D

no,, some dont get what i say ,,

im ok with boarding!! ,, i wan bodybuild information all over,, I LOVE BODYBUILD ,, when you are all look for information about something what you do? you go to search and put in the word or brand of gh ....and then you look for the results on all boarding you can find so you kjnwo what to get ,, correct? the more bparding there is the better,, i dont have time to go on every boparding and read what say about me,, but some fellas are hateful and corupt,, they do it just because they like to be center of the world and dont acccpet facts of reality,,coruption is what brought ORD !!!! coruption is what brought operation raw deal onto the cult of bodyhbuild,,


gh15 approved
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: bishamonten on November 20, 2011, 11:40:00 AM
Dont forget the ''pro's only need 400mg of Test and 4iu of GH, the rest is genetics'' posts ::)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 11:47:02 AM
GH15...been lurking here for years...and this could be my first post, as I just enjoy the banter and knowledge that is slung around here.  PM would be considered my home fort...

Gotta say...I've got a lot of respect for the T-Dome, and your recent posts I really do agree with what you've shared.  With that said, with the respect that I have for everyone one here, I carry the same respect to my brothers and sister at PM. 

In a big family, there are members you get along with, and others you just learn to ignore...and same goes here.

Are the mods at PM control freaks?  Depends on how you look it...some would so, others would say they are only trying to reduce the drama and just keep things to a point where you can have debate without it getting out of control.

BBoy knows, at least I hope, I've got nothing but huge respect for him and although none of us will agree on everything...you can still have fun and have respect for the others position. 

I hope to start posting here more often...The Dome ain't a place for the weak of heart...so I will fit right in...thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts.

Flame on... asbestos suit ready!  :P
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: futurefreak on November 20, 2011, 11:48:34 AM
got me a three day ban at professionalmuscle just for talking about him...LOL

new pm board rule... all gh15 references or post will be deleted  :o

PEOPLE REALLY DO FEAR GOD!!

I was pissed they locked that thread........they could lose lots of people using their "mod" powers like this.......thought it was a "hardcore" board..not so sure anymore
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
^^^ homosexual
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Borracho on November 20, 2011, 11:49:41 AM
GH15...been lurking here for years...and this could be my first post, as I just enjoy the banter and knowledge that is slung around here.  PM would be considered my home fort...

Gotta say...I've got a lot of respect for the T-Dome, and your recent posts I really do agree with what you've shared.  With that said, with the respect that I have for everyone one here, I carry the same respect to my brothers and sister at PM. 

In a big family, there are members you get along with, and others you just learn to ignore...and same goes here.

Are the mods at PM control freaks?  Depends on how you look it...some would so, others would say they are only trying to reduce the drama and just keep things to a point where you can have debate without it getting out of control.

BBoy knows, at least I hope, I've got nothing but huge respect for him and although none of us will agree on everything...you can still have fun and have respect for the others position. 

I hope to start posting here more often...The Dome ain't a place for the weak of heart...so I will fit right in...thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts.

Flame on... asbestos suit ready!  :P

What is your exact location??
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Wiggs on November 20, 2011, 11:50:47 AM
That board has sucked for years.  I quit going back in 08.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
do u even lift
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Wiggs on November 20, 2011, 11:56:21 AM
GH15...been lurking here for years...and this could be my first post, as I just enjoy the banter and knowledge that is slung around here.  PM would be considered my home fort...

Gotta say...I've got a lot of respect for the T-Dome, and your recent posts I really do agree with what you've shared.  With that said, with the respect that I have for everyone one here, I carry the same respect to my brothers and sister at PM. 

In a big family, there are members you get along with, and others you just learn to ignore...and same goes here.

Are the mods at PM control freaks?  Depends on how you look it...some would so, others would say they are only trying to reduce the drama and just keep things to a point where you can have debate without it getting out of control.

BBoy knows, at least I hope, I've got nothing but huge respect for him and although none of us will agree on everything...you can still have fun and have respect for the others position. 

I hope to start posting here more often...The Dome ain't a place for the weak of heart...so I will fit right in...thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts.

Flame on... asbestos suit ready!  :P

Fuck off asshole...
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 11:56:39 AM
Good decision on your part, Wiggs. :)

How has your day been?
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Wiggs on November 20, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
Good decision on your part, Wiggs. :)

How has your day been?

Lol...Stop dude. It's ok...I'll post the cycles.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 12:08:35 PM
It seems whenever there was a GH15 thread start...the thread would blow up with heavy traffic, and I'm sure the daily census would go through the roof.  Then, for one reason or another, the threads would take a twist, and would get locked up.

Not sure the reasons why it happened to the BBoy thread...I thought it was going along fine, until pic demands were made and the shit starting flying.

What happens in those situations...is people will leave and head over here to see what the hell is going on etc.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 12:10:22 PM
I'd give my exact location...but my concern all you would want to do is spend your time sucking my cock...don't roll that way gay blade.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
do u even lift

I suppose you could ask your mom...was lifting her ass and tossing her around last night...she had no complaints...
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
Fuck off asshole...

X2
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: flinstones1 on November 20, 2011, 12:12:30 PM
the actual operation of boarding is a mater of lots of you do me this i do you this,, ,,favours,, it is good income,, but! i have few rules as gh15,,

i can not let fellas get sick on products,, there iwl be big big report im bringin out on insulina sold as humangrowth hormone ,, yes you hear this right ,, not on profesional muscle persay ,,but from some scambag so call new supliers,, yes insulina SOLD AS human growth hormone ,, and anti duretic sold as human growth hormone,, very sad storys of fellass who fell their kidnys hurt and think they are on legit gh ,, your ears will fall when you hear this ,, but it willcome out ,, felals who walk with girlfriend to see a show and cant walk becusd they complain their back is aching and hurting,, they are on hgh.... yes solwn everywhere with out actualy 3 dimentional growth,, comlainnign their back is hurting exactly under the ribs...both sides,, yes yes ,, INSULINA AND ANTI DIURETIC SOLD AS HGH,,

so on one hand i have markus from steroidcom that tell all bad things abotu china ghwhich ofcourse is not true sine both kigtropin and nordic gh are superb gh very hgih quality,, then i have the fellas on other bpardings pimping out insulina and anti diuretic as gh,,,thats what im sayign as in walking the line,, you have to know what you are doing ,, a gh15 cant be some kido ,, i have both side fighting for my attention ,, and yes the truth is that some gh from chin ais catastrophic but some gh from china is superb ,, and before gh15 no one knew a from b ,, now day it is much more clarified ,, things like that sometime are brushed in a boarding due to sells and profit ,, in the thunderdome its not....this is why everyone coime here,, this is why moment everyone open eyes in the morning they go read the bible ,,no balonie

gh15 approved


[/quote
rediculous. Insulin in vials of gh i :o Do these guys have a death wish?  jesus christ
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Borracho on November 20, 2011, 12:13:37 PM
I'd give my exact location...but my concern all you would want to do is spend your time sucking my cock...don't roll that way gay blade.

quite an imagination you got there
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 12:14:01 PM
Fuck off asshole...

Hey bro...thanks for nice welcome...i plan to be around for awhile...got more bitch?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: apply85 on November 20, 2011, 12:15:08 PM
lol see I called it
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 12:16:27 PM
quite an imagination you got there

Yep...I had a troubled youth...priests and uncles...
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
Yep...I had a troubled youth...priests and uncles...

Another closet case ::) go back to queermuscle.com and suck on Fatchef titties, you bitch twink
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 12:20:54 PM
Hey bro...thanks for nice welcome...i plan to be around for awhile...got more bitch?


you'll fit right ln here.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 12:22:45 PM
Lol...Stop dude. It's ok...I'll post the cycles.


LOL @ you two retards

:D
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
i know when i was 13 i startet at musclemayham haha got banned within 6 months :D

getbig is my home
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 20, 2011, 12:27:23 PM
I had 100+ accounts banned on bb.com for talking about hormones
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 20, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
I just ripped BigChef a new asshole in the banned forum over there. I didn't even see this thread when I did that. Good to see that idiot is being exposed. The problem with site is everyone hates the mods but they ban people so easily that any little shot and they are gone. Pathetic
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 12:29:41 PM
ironneck is quite the legend in the netz
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 12:29:49 PM

i just took a peek over there. to see the word 'banned' under your name is a goddamn shame dude.

thats like the worse stigma ever reserved for scammers, shit disturbers and spammers.

so not fucking cool. at all.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 20, 2011, 12:30:20 PM
bboy I can't believe those fucks have the audacity to bash you and try to tell you that you are in the wrong in that banned forum thread. Seriously you are above them. You are basically an ifbb pro (future for sure). They need to de-mod every moderator on that site and appoint guys who aren't power hungry fuckbags. At least WhiteWidow on this forum, like him or not, isn't a ban happy mod and actually acts like a normal member.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 12:30:52 PM
Lol...Stop dude. It's ok...I'll post the cycles.

LOL @ you two retards

:D


;D ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
I just ripped BigChef a new asshole in the banned forum over there. I didn't even see this thread when I did that. Good to see that idiot is being exposed. The problem with site is everyone hates the mods but they ban people so easily that any little shot and they are gone. Pathetic

Can you cut and paste your post in the banned forum here?, so we can have even more of a laugh at Fatchef
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 12:34:25 PM
bboy I can't believe those fucks have the audacity to bash you and try to tell you that you are in the wrong in that banned forum thread. Seriously you are above them. You are basically an ifbb pro (future for sure). They need to de-mod every moderator on that site and appoint guys who aren't power hungry fuckbags. At least WhiteWidow on this forum, like him or not, isn't a ban happy mod and actually acts like a normal member.

you right,,he actualy prove himself as quite good moderat on that boarding which left me with no much amunition so i droped talking about it,, from what i read there he is alwys talk to the point which shwo he knows his hormones and actualy love bodybuild and not do it for drama

gh15 approved
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: nspaletta on November 20, 2011, 12:35:23 PM
I was pissed they locked that thread........they could lose lots of people using their "mod" powers like this.......thought it was a "hardcore" board..not so sure anymore

Ya bro that board is definitely gone lose some members with these ban happy mods running around. But thats cool...getbig is a true hardcore board  8)
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 12:37:54 PM
why even post on other boards?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Ironraider on November 20, 2011, 12:38:07 PM
AMD...did you get a perm ban thrown on or a temp??
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: War-Horse on November 20, 2011, 12:41:48 PM
why even post on other boards?


Exactly. 8)
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 12:43:34 PM

Exactly. 8)

i like to say what i want, it's just the netz so

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_P9iTB2mmEPQ/TE18U64MtuI/AAAAAAAABxc/e2LQyXqFFOM/s1600/batman-dark-knight-joker.jpg)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
I just ripped BigChef a new asshole in the banned forum over there. I didn't even see this thread when I did that. Good to see that idiot is being exposed. The problem with site is everyone hates the mods but they ban people so easily that any little shot and they are gone. Pathetic
LOL i read it, the banned forum can be lots of fun huh??  ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Hulkotron on November 20, 2011, 01:09:43 PM
I have an open letter for "Professional Muscle": fuck you
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: j3di3 on November 20, 2011, 01:24:48 PM
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/nasserOffice.jpg)
someone photoshop getbig onto the screen
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 20, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
Lmao....boards come and go, most that post there have already said people have stopped posting due to censorship....six months from now when just 3 guys are posting there, gh15 will come running in....."See wut I did? Gh15 maid these boarding deesapear....blah blah blah...."

Lol!! ;D

Tell me about it >:(

http://momentumperform.proboards.com/index.cgi
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 01:43:35 PM
but he never dominted the board back then. he is not so much the problem but more so it is the ass-kisser betas that parrot the parrot. a gh15 board solves all problems and gives you worshippers more access to the ifbb pro that won't post his pro card.  8)

fuck off alice you dumpy bitch. you've done nothing but try to ruin this board. squadfather no longer posts here cause of you, you started your own beta male board in an attempt to steal members from here. you're the worse thing that's ever happened to GB.

all your 'advise' is yet another failed attempt at killing this place.  

kill yourself already. seriously. not like anyone would miss you. except for maybe your mommy  
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 20, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
AMD...did you get a perm ban thrown on or a temp??

perm. I stopped posting there for 3 weeks because I was sick of the garbage. I said exactly that on getbig and I got a perma ban on pro muscle for a post on getbig ::)

so yesterday I made a new username on there because I felt like posting there for some reason (yea yea I felt like coming back for some reason. stupid me). And of course, I couldn't help myself but to say something that got me banned again. Then raajin says post-ban (of the new username) that I am hiding under a new name instead of posting on my old name (even though the AMD username is perma banned on there. strong logic)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 20, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
Can you cut and paste your post in the banned forum here?, so we can have even more of a laugh at Fatchef

ok this is a thread in the banned forum that no one can see unless they are banned from pro muscle (which means many of us)

I bolded his quotes. here are some gems from the walking heart attack chef himself

Trying to give bboy a lesson on life
"You really dont get it brad. You need to fix up your ego sunshine. You lost your sponsorship. What else eh? You were warned by BigA. You really think you are a Pro. However I have a problem with gh15. We have always deleted bullshit guru's on this forum. Does BigA hide his name? Phil? They speak the truth. Tell me why does this bullshit gh15 hide? Is he scared? There is the same info on this forum set up by BigA himself not gh15. I dont like your sarcasm brad. It pissed me off! "

Now he is getting sensitive. talking about balls at the end but I think he would rather lick them
"I knew it would pissed you off and it shows your true colours. You are such a little fucking girl brad. I dont give a flying fuck who you are. Because of your ego do you need special treatment. You started the shit bout me on the open forum but never take it in private. That is pretty fucking immature. I apologised to you in the 1st place because I got more fucking balls than you. I will lift your ban within the 3 day. "

this is me coming to bboy's defense because I couldn't believe the shit I was reading
"bboy, don't let these guys get to you. Clearly everyone in that thread was on your side. Don't let a guy like bigchef bully you and deny you from your freedom of speech. I'd suggest ignoring these guys and do you. Believe me, these guys speak for themselves only. Everyone else has your back. I got banned for mentioning that the mods in that thread went to extremes just to bash gh15. I am obviously going to get a life ban for this post, but it was worth it. I don't know why BigA is letting a guy like bigchef ruin a great forum by twisting everything"

Here is the chef from Dunkin Donuts again responding to me. Saying I am hiding under another name even though my real name was perm banned
"Why do you have 2 names? Alphamale...Why you hiding under another fucking name? Does gh15 inspired you??? Hiding your identity and you are talking shit. You dont know why I banned brad, because of his trashy mouth that gets himself to trouble. So I take it like a man and copped the fucking criticism for banning brad. I even put mygod damn ass on the line and send countless hours of my time to clean up the forum. I do this for BigA. If I was wrong he would tell me. I wont back down. Sigh!"

My response to flubber
"I am not hiding from anything. You banned my other name (even though I hadn't posted for 3 weeks ) so it's not like I could go ahead and log in under that one. You are a joke. If your name wasn't in bold, no one would take your shit. You think you have a right to give people psychology lessons whenever you get pissed off as if they are the problem. Clearly you are the one with issues, not them. You have so many personality flaws, it is scary. Nothing but a power hungry jerkoff.

Putting your ass on the line? haha good one. No member would ever say anything to you because they know you will ban them immediately if they do. You really think anyone respects you? If they say they do, it's because they don't want to get banned. People kiss your ass simply for the fact your name is in bold.

I will tell you how to put your ass on the line. Give up mod status and be a regular member. Then don't come crying to me when you realize everyone hates you. Do you not realize 90% of the members can't find any faults to what gh15 says? I mean shit, I don't want to sound like a fucking ass worshipper here but the guy knows his shit. Banning people for saying something good about him is pathetic. How about you start following his advice and see what happens? Or better yet, follow mine and gtfo "

that's it so far. I kind of feel I was almost too nice. I wish I had read that he was a 350lb fatass talking about health prior to posting that. I would have been a lot more harsh
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 20, 2011, 02:07:03 PM
Somebody must have a pic of this bigchef guy?
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 20, 2011, 02:10:02 PM
5'6 320?? I'm 5'6 220 and feel like shit if I go above that!
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 20, 2011, 02:11:14 PM
why even post on other boards?

you are so right. god dam forum addictions. better than narcotics addiction I guess
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 02:20:19 PM
5'6 320?? I'm 5'6 220 and feel like shit if I go above that!
man i really hope that chef made a typo when he typed that, fuck im 5'5 240 and i feel like im about to bust and thats with an assload of muscle, I can't even comprehend what 320 must feel or look like...dayuuuuuuummmmm
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 02:27:27 PM
man i really hope that chef made a typo when he typed that, fuck im 5'5 240 and i feel like im about to bust and thats with an assload of muscle, I can't even comprehend what 320 must feel or look like...dayuuuuuuummmmm
5'6',and 320.......what a visual !!

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 20, 2011, 03:17:37 PM
5'6',and 320.......what a visual !!


all lbas pepto pro and phils peptides with 400mg of alin stealth test. OH ya and true protein bromalin to be 320 at 5'6 you have to have a good digestive system.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 20, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
but in all fairness chef doesnt only work as a internet mod he also is the santa and the local mall during the holidays.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: L.L on November 20, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
the deleted my face to name thread..I guess RAJJIN and BigChef didnt want to post  what they look like
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: TrueGrit on November 20, 2011, 03:56:08 PM
man i really hope that chef made a typo when he typed that, fuck im 5'5 240 and i feel like im about to bust and thats with an assload of muscle, I can't even comprehend what 320 must feel or look like...dayuuuuuuummmmm

Nope. The guy is saying the same on this board in 2009..

Hopefully, I see how I go first and will go into Sydney Comps!
I am 5'6 320 pounds off season type.


http://www.musclediscussion.com/intro-forum/2431-bigchef-pm.html
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dr.chimps on November 20, 2011, 04:24:54 PM
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What a bunch of homos.    ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Xerxes on November 20, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
 ???
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: OTHstrong on November 20, 2011, 04:49:22 PM
Hey bro...thanks for nice welcome...i plan to be around for awhile...got more bitch?
Trust me brother you won't make a hundred posts here, let's start with your name, shall we, what exactly does it mean?, serious question, are you gay, only a few post and your already talking about sucking dick. Do you agree with what those monkeys over there did to B-boy? well isn't that shame, for that alone you will be raped here, every post you make we will take it to you, you will be getbig approved when you cancel your account over at PM until then fuck off. bitch :'(
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 04:54:51 PM
Trust me brother you won't make a hundred posts here, let's start with your name, shall we, what exactly does it mean?, serious question, are you gay, only a few post and your already talking about sucking dick. Do you agree with what those monkeys over there did to B-boy? well isn't that shame, for that alone you will be raped here, every post you make we will take it to you, you will be getbig approved when you cancel your account over at PM until then fuck off. bitch :'(

:D
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 05:31:49 PM
you are so right. god dam forum addictions. better than narcotics addiction I guess

no way narcotics are way better :D
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: jude2 on November 20, 2011, 07:32:55 PM
The PM board was dying and all this has really helped them get more hits.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: napaulm on November 20, 2011, 07:39:42 PM
i just joined here a few days ago, after lookin up gh15 that bboy mentioned. love that guy's posts.
i got banned from promuscle for calling out phil hernon and his asshole attitude towards members.  that the mods let happen. in fact, they banned people like me who dared question his products and his hissy fit attacks. money talks there, for sure.
been readiin threads here, decided to make this my main info/fun board.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: pellius on November 20, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
Ha, this is stupid post brother, have you heard of the Art of war, "to know yourself and not know your enemy in 50 battles you will be victorious and in 50 battles you will be in peril" That is you, and "to know your yourself and to know your enemy" 100 battles you will be victorious. That is gh15
 You are fighting a battle you can't win cause you are saying you wil bring it to a guy you don't know and can't find out who he is and he know who you are and has elfs that can do his dirty work, you do the math, and look at my previous post I have been bashing gh15 like crazy so I am not defending him, I am just letting you know how stupid you sound, hope this helps,

The Sun Tzu approved  ;D

Good post. Read Sun Tzu eons ago.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: pellius on November 20, 2011, 07:53:34 PM
i dont give a damn...lol...I cant believe they banned you after all these years and how mcuh youve contributed to that site..damn ..PM isnt what it used to be...reason why a lot of people dont post there no more.




link.


http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80526-face-name.html

Thread deleted
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: no one on November 20, 2011, 08:26:43 PM
i just joined here a few days ago, after lookin up gh15 that bboy mentioned. love that guy's posts.
i got banned from promuscle for calling out phil hernon and his asshole attitude towards members.  that the mods let happen. in fact, they banned people like me who dared question his products and his hissy fit attacks. money talks there, for sure.
been readiin threads here, decided to make this my main info/fun board.

thanks for your biography.  ::)

welcome to the thunderdome bitch
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 08:34:06 PM
ok this is a thread in the banned forum that no one can see unless they are banned from pro muscle (which means many of us)

I bolded his quotes. here are some gems from the walking heart attack chef himself

Trying to give bboy a lesson on life
"You really dont get it brad. You need to fix up your ego sunshine. You lost your sponsorship. What else eh? You were warned by BigA. You really think you are a Pro. However I have a problem with gh15. We have always deleted bullshit guru's on this forum. Does BigA hide his name? Phil? They speak the truth. Tell me why does this bullshit gh15 hide? Is he scared? There is the same info on this forum set up by BigA himself not gh15. I dont like your sarcasm brad. It pissed me off! "

Now he is getting sensitive. talking about balls at the end but I think he would rather lick them
"I knew it would pissed you off and it shows your true colours. You are such a little fucking girl brad. I dont give a flying fuck who you are. Because of your ego do you need special treatment. You started the shit bout me on the open forum but never take it in private. That is pretty fucking immature. I apologised to you in the 1st place because I got more fucking balls than you. I will lift your ban within the 3 day. "

this is me coming to bboy's defense because I couldn't believe the shit I was reading
"bboy, don't let these guys get to you. Clearly everyone in that thread was on your side. Don't let a guy like bigchef bully you and deny you from your freedom of speech. I'd suggest ignoring these guys and do you. Believe me, these guys speak for themselves only. Everyone else has your back. I got banned for mentioning that the mods in that thread went to extremes just to bash gh15. I am obviously going to get a life ban for this post, but it was worth it. I don't know why BigA is letting a guy like bigchef ruin a great forum by twisting everything"

Here is the chef from Dunkin Donuts again responding to me. Saying I am hiding under another name even though my real name was perm banned
"Why do you have 2 names? Alphamale...Why you hiding under another fucking name? Does gh15 inspired you??? Hiding your identity and you are talking shit. You dont know why I banned brad, because of his trashy mouth that gets himself to trouble. So I take it like a man and copped the fucking criticism for banning brad. I even put mygod damn ass on the line and send countless hours of my time to clean up the forum. I do this for BigA. If I was wrong he would tell me. I wont back down. Sigh!"

My response to flubber
"I am not hiding from anything. You banned my other name (even though I hadn't posted for 3 weeks ) so it's not like I could go ahead and log in under that one. You are a joke. If your name wasn't in bold, no one would take your shit. You think you have a right to give people psychology lessons whenever you get pissed off as if they are the problem. Clearly you are the one with issues, not them. You have so many personality flaws, it is scary. Nothing but a power hungry jerkoff.

Putting your ass on the line? haha good one. No member would ever say anything to you because they know you will ban them immediately if they do. You really think anyone respects you? If they say they do, it's because they don't want to get banned. People kiss your ass simply for the fact your name is in bold.

I will tell you how to put your ass on the line. Give up mod status and be a regular member. Then don't come crying to me when you realize everyone hates you. Do you not realize 90% of the members can't find any faults to what gh15 says? I mean shit, I don't want to sound like a fucking ass worshipper here but the guy knows his shit. Banning people for saying something good about him is pathetic. How about you start following his advice and see what happens? Or better yet, follow mine and gtfo "

that's it so far. I kind of feel I was almost too nice. I wish I had read that he was a 350lb fatass talking about health prior to posting that. I would have been a lot more harsh

LOL, what a pussy he is, he talks about people hiding under gimmick names but does he post his real name and pic? the guy is a deluded fat hypocrite, all those donuts must have caused a huge sugar high that rotted what pea size brain he had.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
i just joined here a few days ago, after lookin up gh15 that bboy mentioned. love that guy's posts.
i got banned from promuscle for calling out phil hernon and his asshole attitude towards members.  that the mods let happen. in fact, they banned people like me who dared question his products and his hissy fit attacks. money talks there, for sure.
been readiin threads here, decided to make this my main info/fun board.

you mirin, brah?
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
why even post on other boards?

X2
What's the extra value of other boards, compared with GB? To get protection against "evil" people, who speak their mind out?  ::)
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: jude2 on November 20, 2011, 08:47:20 PM
i just joined here a few days ago, after lookin up gh15 that bboy mentioned. love that guy's posts.
i got banned from promuscle for calling out phil hernon and his asshole attitude towards members.  that the mods let happen. in fact, they banned people like me who dared question his products and his hissy fit attacks. money talks there, for sure.
been readiin threads here, decided to make this my main info/fun board.
Welcome. You can call Phil out all day here.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 20, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
Welcome. You can call Phil out all day here.


We encourage it, actually !!!
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 20, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
X2
What's the extra value of other boards, compared with GB? To get protection against "evil" people, who speak their mind out?  ::)
O SHIT, i almost spit crystal light all over my screen.... people really fear the thunderdome!!!!
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
O SHIT, i almost spit crystal light all over my screen.... people really fear the thunderdome!!!!

I was never a member of that board, but based on what I saw they seem fucking hypocrite folks with all those banners, LOL.

I wonder what's the main reason why they're so against the person behind GH15. Is it simply a conflict of interest? For example, GH15 always strongly discourage buying gear online.

GH, please speak up on this
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: jude2 on November 20, 2011, 09:14:08 PM
O SHIT, i almost spit crystal light all over my screen.... people really fear the thunderdome!!!!
The fear is a fact.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 09:17:54 PM
I was never a member of that board, but based on what I saw they seem fucking hypocrite folks with all those banners, LOL.

I wonder what's the main reason why they're so against the person behind GH15. Is it simply a conflict of interest? For example, GH15 always strongly discourage buying gear online.

GH, please speak up on this

no friend,, i never say not buy on internet...i say not buy from selective scam and from scam,, 99% of all bodybuild get their compounds on internet,, safest way ,, can never get in trouble unles dumb and sign ,, need to have actualy evidence of you doing business and RECVING package and sign for it ofr you to be in trouble and! no one care about small personel order in the real world ,, the ones who supervize only care about narcotics dealing and about mega dealing ,, never about you the little fella who buy 12 ampoles,,

what im against is buying in gymnasium WHERE ALL HELL CAN BREKA LOOSE,, where you get prices rocket high,, where they buy from internet themselve to sell to you ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2011, 09:23:44 PM
OK, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: SamsonD on November 20, 2011, 10:19:31 PM
You know what sickens me the most over there?  The fact that they(the mods and danta) keep saying gh15 is a gimmick, no one knows who he is, etc etc, but no one knows who the fuck they are either!  For all I know Jello is  a fucking 150lb twink with branch warren for his avi.  Apparently chef is a morbidly obese midget.  It's the pot calling the fucking kettle black.  We are supposed to praise and worship everything they say over there despite not knowing a damn thing about them, but bring up gh15 and all holy hell breaks loose.

I brought this up in bboys thread before it got locked and jello called me ignorant and said I shouldn't comment on things I don't know about...  WTF?  As already mentioned here, that fucking site has more ads for "sponsors" than any other on the web.  But don't talk about "high" dosages from "made up" gurus or you get banned, or your posts deleted.

You SURELY cannot bad mouth a sponsor over there.  Get bunk gear?  Slow ass TA or never arrived?  Too bad so sad unless it happens for a long ass time and then the banner gets pulled with no notice or warning to anyone.  Just all of a sudden gone, untill someone asks in the ONE thread related to that subject.  Oh yeah, so and so labs?  They were sending everyone bunk gear so we pulled their banner(after their ad dollars were out).  Sorry we didn't warn you...

Christ they just had that fiasco with PL, the dude who never sent any body anything, and then they let him or one of his partners back on as parsifail or whatever and THE SAME SHIT HAPPENS!  But hey let's fucking ban bboy for talking about gh15...
Utter fucking nonsense.  Sorry for the rant.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: The.Giant on November 20, 2011, 10:34:11 PM
PM's a fucking scam owned site. Pushing Sythetek products which are just oil and B12 with a crazy mark up.

"OMG I BOUGHT SYNTHELAMINE AND NOW I'm 300 lbs with abs!. Best $100 ever!!! Much better then regular B12 for 1/10th the price! "  ::)
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: diamondcut on November 20, 2011, 11:19:05 PM
is alin a scammer?

i was a somewhat regular at pm under another handle but i think i like this board more

i just got a 3 day ban for defending bboy in his "some thoughts" thread!!! LOL! and my post was deleted!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 11:48:48 PM
I'd pay to see this 5'6", 320 lb waste of air talk shit to b-boy's face in real life. ;D
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: The.Giant on November 21, 2011, 04:21:18 AM
ProMuscle is way easier to browse once you add the following to your AdBlock filter.

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Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: whitewidow on November 21, 2011, 04:41:21 AM
I was not comparing you to FatChef and Gayjin, i just mentioned your name as you seem to be so anti gh15

you told me to shut my mouth, i took that as i threat, we have the right to express opinions here freely so i expressed mine, if you agree or disagree with what i post thats your right

I have always been civil to you on the steroid board and respect your opinions on the subject

I just dont think my name shoulds of been mentioned. I am not anti Gh15 nor am I a GH15 follower. He is just another member to me. I have to give the guy some props he has 100's of mean ass bodybuilders listening to addelle . Gh15 could sell you your own shoes. I respect that. he could make a supplier sell-out if he gives them a big bump. thats power. I just like messing with the guy when he makes ludacris claims every once in awhile.  I have never disrespected you so do not disrespect me by putting my name in the same sentence with those other mods. I have never locked or errased anything Gh15 has said. even though I dont agree with some of what he says. but thats mainly the first cycle reccomendations. GH15 is for the hardcore bodybuilder only-IMO. sorry you took my post as a threat, but you obviously dont know I dont take things very serious. I actually think things are amusing. nothing bothers me.I try to be on good terms with everybody and have never done any member wrong. just didn't see why you would put my name in the same sentence as those PM mods. especially when I have never ever said anything negative about you.  just to let you know Gh15 does not bother me I actually think he is real entertainment even when he is threatening me.I laugh. this is the internet ow could anybody take a threat serious?
Title: Re: Shud there be a gh15 board on Getbig?
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 21, 2011, 05:26:14 AM
fuck off alice you dumpy bitch. you've done nothing but try to ruin this board. squadfather no longer posts here cause of you, you started your own beta male board in an attempt to steal members from here. you're the worse thing that's ever happened to GB.

all your 'advise' is yet another failed attempt at killing this place.  

kill yourself already. seriously. not like anyone would miss you. except for maybe your mommy  

haha, you Spock-eared guido hypocrite,,,, you're the one dat posted his address and phone number on the g and o and got TO'ed for six months cuz of it. lolz. I have a long memory. i think i even stuck up for u when u were crying about being timeoutted for posting the trailboy's details. 

Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 21, 2011, 05:31:17 AM
can't believe there isn't a pic floating around of this Lee-Priest-a-like pocket rocket at 5'6 ans 320lbs.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 05:42:42 AM
can't believe there isn't a pic floating around of this Lee-Priest-a-like pocket rocket at 5'6 ans 320lbs.
I found him in all his glory on another forums pics section!!

(http://aakashdhanuka.blog.com/files/2011/07/fat_baby.jpg)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The.Giant on November 21, 2011, 05:48:00 AM
can't believe there isn't a pic floating around of this Lee-Priest-a-like pocket rocket at 5'6 ans 320lbs.

(http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/134000/134345_fat_midget_stripper.jpg)
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dustin on November 21, 2011, 06:25:36 AM
I found him in all his glory on another forums pics section!!

(http://aakashdhanuka.blog.com/files/2011/07/fat_baby.jpg)

Looks to be around the higher single digit bf range. All the way stud.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 06:27:41 AM
Looks to be around the higher single digit bf range. All the way stud.
And still hasn`t maxed out his frame!!

Wait until he hits the 350 mark,then he will be unstoppable.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dustin on November 21, 2011, 06:33:45 AM
And still hasn`t maxed out his frame!!

Wait until he hits the 350 mark,then he will be unstoppable.

;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: dr.chimps on November 21, 2011, 06:40:04 AM
And still hasn`t maxed out his frame!!

Wait until he hits the 350 mark,then he will be unstoppable.
I'll wager his heart will not be unstoppable.   
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 06:48:47 AM
I'll wager his heart will not be unstoppable.    
You`d win the wager.

In reality,the fucking guy truly can`t look much better than these pics at 5'6" at 320 and not having trained in a good while.

No puke smiley needed for the visual!!  :(
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: b-boy on November 21, 2011, 06:57:14 AM
I'll wager his heart will not be unstoppable.   
x2  :-X
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: wild willie on November 21, 2011, 07:08:03 AM
That board sux!!

Too damn "clicky"..............if you post something they don`t like,see ya` !  :(
X2.....Those fools over there think that synthol is the way to go.....I was turned off big time @ professionalmuscle.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: simon on November 21, 2011, 07:19:05 AM
I was a member,even featured member of the month there years ago under a different board name.  I asked to be deleted from the board after I saw some seriously shady shit going on.  It was a decent place back in the day.  Bboy, jethro, mainevent, tpfu, vander.  We had fun for awhile.  It's all about $$$$$ there, nothing else.
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: ppp on November 21, 2011, 07:20:48 AM
I'd pay to see this 5'6", 320 lb waste of air talk shit to b-boy's face in real life. ;D

This is my favorite:

"LoL I have dealed with lot of tough personalities in the kitchen over the last 22 years. It has made me tough. Look at Gordon Ramsey, tough bitch too. Being a Chef is mentally tough. I dont tolerate shit but thats me. I do have a heart but I speak my mind. I love this place. I know i can be an asshole at times. BigA has done alot for me. I try my best, thats all I can say."

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 21, 2011, 07:25:21 AM
can't believe there isn't a pic floating around of this Lee-Priest-a-like pocket rocket at 5'6 ans 320lbs.
You're a fat piece of shit too alex
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 21, 2011, 07:40:07 AM
I'd pay to see this 5'6", 320 lb waste of air talk shit to b-boy's face in real life. ;D

The fat midget wouldnt say shit

Bboy = real bodybuilder, pro in waiting, honest fella, helps others

Fatchef = insecure, micro penis, obese, internet nazi using his mod position to feel special, delusional liar scumbag ::)

Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 08:00:19 AM
I was a member,even featured member of the month there years ago under a different board name.  I asked to be deleted from the board after I saw some seriously shady shit going on.  It was a decent place back in the day.  Bboy, jethro, mainevent, tpfu, vander.  We had fun for awhile.  It's all about $$$$$ there, nothing else.

Wow, did they actually delete you?  This isn't the first time bboy has had issues, he actually DELETED his thread over there once and the mods PUT IT BACK UP!
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 21, 2011, 08:04:36 AM
The fat midget wouldnt say shit

Bboy = real bodybuilder, pro in waiting, honest fella, helps others

Fatchef = insecure, micro penis, obese, internet nazi using his mod position to feel special, delusional liar scumbag ::)



yup. this about sums it up. I wish Raajin wouldn't fly under the radar here though. He is an equally horrible moderator
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 21, 2011, 08:06:51 AM
I was a member,even featured member of the month there years ago under a different board name.  I asked to be deleted from the board after I saw some seriously shady shit going on.  It was a decent place back in the day.  Bboy, jethro, mainevent, tpfu, vander.  We had fun for awhile.  It's all about $$$$$ there, nothing else.

what kind of shady stuff? One thing that is shady other than the alin thing, is that Biogen has been a sponsor there for a long time even though 9/10 people claim their gear is bunk

and don't even get me started on LBA's
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Man of Steel on November 21, 2011, 08:22:55 AM
AHAHAHAHAH!!!  bodybuilding
Title: Re: an open letter to the members of professionalmuscle, bboy, and gh15
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 21, 2011, 08:32:51 AM
yup. this about sums it up. I wish Raajin wouldn't fly under the radar here though. He is an equally horrible moderator

He needs to be outed also
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 21, 2011, 09:59:06 AM
what kind of shady stuff? One thing that is shady other than the alin thing, is that Biogen has been a sponsor there for a long time even though 9/10 people claim their gear is bunk

and don't even get me started on LBA's
what kinda shady stuff the talk about how you have to eat 7,000 calories and preaching low doses the peptide boy gangster. It just a comedy of misinformation I actually observed your posts over there for a while. Your a very intelligent person question why about stuff.  You will go far dont belive anything them fuckers tell you I doubt osirs is on only a gram remember he cant be on a lot because hes trying to sell they peptides.  I could go on and on magnum,bboy and buselmo are the only truthful posters there there are a few others but they are the main ones. It made me sick when they ran down juanb or what ever his name was. ANd the biggest fuck up of them all massiveg he is picturless. He preaches low doses he used to talk about using like 5 and 6 grams fucking liar. He made a cycle for someone here that would scare gh15lol
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 21, 2011, 10:03:09 AM
actually the ads are the only reason to get on there lol they should shut down the form and just run ads lol
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 10:17:00 AM
what kinda shady stuff the talk about how you have to eat 7,000 calories and preaching low doses the peptide boy gangster. It just a comedy of misinformation I actually observed your posts over there for a while. Your a very intelligent person question why about stuff.  You will go far dont belive anything them fuckers tell you I doubt osirs is on only a gram remember he cant be on a lot because hes trying to sell they peptides.  I could go on and on magnum,bboy and buselmo are the only truthful posters there there are a few others but they are the main ones. It made me sick when they ran down juanb or what ever his name was. ANd the biggest fuck up of them all massiveg he is picturless. He preaches low doses he used to talk about using like 5 and 6 grams fucking liar. He made a cycle for someone here that would scare gh15lol

Quoted for fucking truth man.  There is like a handful of people over there that have anything of value to say.  They are succesfully running them all off now.  Ban bboy, buselmo has had enough and he's out, magnum barely posts, killer stack barely posts and on and on.  It's agenda after agenda after agenda.  I'm over it.  Don't even get me started on fucking Osiris the peptide pimp.  Don't get me wrong, he's a big dude and way better than me at the moment.  But have you guys looked at any of his logs?  He is running like 20 compounds when you count all the peps and the dude looks the SAME as he did a year ago?  Maybe it's the crappy cell phone pics, but I just don't see the change.  He looks good like I said, but he is running in fucking place...
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 21, 2011, 10:29:39 AM
what kinda shady stuff the talk about how you have to eat 7,000 calories and preaching low doses the peptide boy gangster. It just a comedy of misinformation I actually observed your posts over there for a while. Your a very intelligent person question why about stuff.  You will go far dont belive anything them fuckers tell you I doubt osirs is on only a gram remember he cant be on a lot because hes trying to sell they peptides.  I could go on and on magnum,bboy and buselmo are the only truthful posters there there are a few others but they are the main ones. It made me sick when they ran down juanb or what ever his name was. ANd the biggest fuck up of them all massiveg he is picturless. He preaches low doses he used to talk about using like 5 and 6 grams fucking liar. He made a cycle for someone here that would scare gh15lol

Thanks I appreciate it. You are spot on with every word you posted. I am surprised Buselmo gets a lot of respect there to be honest since he goes against the grain and makes more sense than anyone. Very refreshing to see him post after a sea of nonsense sometimes.

Magnum is the best and most honest poster on that site, hands down

Osiris I was actually cool with at one point believe it or not. Then he decided to call me out countless times in the open forum and got personal. wtf kind of move is that? I have very strong opinions on that but I don't want to go there. I'll leave it at that. And yes he preaches lower doses yet he is on more peptides than you could even imagine as well as slin. He used to use higher doses at one point and lost muscle. Now he is using slightly lower and going peptide crazy and muscle memory is bringing back his lost mass. I doubt he would be as big as he is on his current dosing regimen if he didn't have the muscle memory in his favor. Anyways, I'll stop talking about him.

the main downside to being banned there is losing access to the sponsors forum
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 21, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Thanks I appreciate it. You are spot on with every word you posted. I am surprised Buselmo gets a lot of respect there to be honest since he goes against the grain and makes more sense than anyone. Very refreshing to see him post after a sea of nonsense sometimes.

Magnum is the best and most honest poster on that site, hands down

Osiris I was actually cool with at one point believe it or not. Then he decided to call me out countless times in the open forum and got personal. wtf kind of move is that? I have very strong opinions on that but I don't want to go there. I'll leave it at that. And yes he preaches lower doses yet he is on more peptides than you could even imagine as well as slin. He used to use higher doses at one point and lost muscle. Now he is using slightly lower and going peptide crazy and muscle memory is bringing back his lost mass. I doubt he would be as big as he is on his current dosing regimen if he didn't have the muscle memory in his favor. Anyways, I'll stop talking about him.

the main downside to being banned there is losing access to the sponsors forum
make a new profile under a differetn name and lay low and just help a newbie every now and then to build a post count. geno tec dont care lol YOU dont even really have to talk just view the sponsers also outlaw muscle. I  banned for getting on drunk
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 10:59:34 AM
Alpha the best sponsors from there don't even say much, they have a low profile.  TNT, Univet, Geno.
Me personally, I'm going with nordic from here on out.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: chess315 on November 21, 2011, 11:09:56 AM
I dont have nordics private. I truely dont even really know why I get on these forms dont have a job lol I dont even seriously bodybuild I just take a little test and lift weights. I am going to get some gh soon when I get a chance though just for shits and giggles. I tried one of these gh15 cycles I think IM just going back to test buy 100grams and take what you want for a yr. I get real good result of just a gram or little over test but my goals are just to still look good enough at 34 to pick up 20yos.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'
Post by: Swlabr on November 21, 2011, 12:31:36 PM
For fuck's sake, why was this thread merged? ::)
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 21, 2011, 12:33:07 PM
make a new profile under a differetn name and lay low and just help a newbie every now and then to build a post count. geno tec dont care lol YOU dont even really have to talk just view the sponsers also outlaw muscle. I  banned for getting on drunk

I did and I got banned after the first hour lol. I am unbanned under this username now though.

yup genotec has been my source. my current prop/tren run is his gear. I went with him due to cost initially
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 21, 2011, 12:34:37 PM
Alpha the best sponsors from there don't even say much, they have a low profile.  TNT, Univet, Geno.
Me personally, I'm going with nordic from here on out.

I tend to agree. lots of gear squad pimping but spartan is part of gear squad and I heard his source was very good.

I want to use nordic next time but his site has been down for a month and a half or something. Does he have another site now?
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: aesthetics on November 21, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
Alpha the best sponsors from there don't even say much, they have a low profile.  TNT, Univet, Geno.
Me personally, I'm going with nordic from here on out.

those are not even close to being the "best" not by a mile
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: nosleep on November 22, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
Alpha the best sponsors from there don't even say much, they have a low profile.  TNT, Univet, Geno.
Me personally, I'm going with nordic from here on out.

EVERYONE ON THAT SITE IS FUCKING AFFLIATED.

EVERY SINGLE ONE. OSIRIS WAS USING ALL THOSE ERGO PEPTIDES WITH HIS FUCKING HOMO EROTIC LOG AND SHIT, THEN MAGICALLY GETS SPONSORED ONE DAY? BLOW ME ERGOPEP. I MAY BE YOUNG BUT YOU CANT FOOL ME.

BUSELMO..HONEST.
BBOY...HONEST.
BIG A......HONEST.
MAGNUM...HONEST.
JOHNNYSMILES....HONEST.
Title: Re: that damn gh15
Post by: flinstones1 on November 22, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
I dont have nordics private. I truely dont even really know why I get on these forms dont have a job lol I dont even seriously bodybuild I just take a little test and lift weights. I am going to get some gh soon when I get a chance though just for shits and giggles. I tried one of these gh15 cycles I think IM just going back to test buy 100grams and take what you want for a yr. I get real good result of just a gram or little over test but my goals are just to still look good enough at 34 to pick up 20yos.

Know how you feel bro...no job here either. The other day I  went from restaurant to restaurant today filling in application after application looking for a job , starting to get desperate at this point.   I would take a dishwashing job at this point swear to fucking gawd..    my parents are pretty damn well off ..but only agreed to support me if I enrolled in school and got an education, but I didn't so I'm on my own. That's te thing with Jewish parents they will help you but only if you work hard in your studies. Gotta say The real world is a dark place, glad I found out early on.
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: j_mtl on November 28, 2011, 06:16:42 PM
LOL at Howard's way of thinking

"You can go far in bodybuilding without using a lot of drugs"
"Take myself for example, I never won anything worth mentionning but I never took a lot of drugs"

 ;D

lol at you howard, you know nothing about nothing,,, now shut up and go read yout muscle and fitness ::)
Title: Re: GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his advice
Post by: Howard on November 29, 2011, 02:53:39 PM
lol at you howard, you know nothing about nothing,,, now shut up and go read yout muscle and fitness ::)
That's me ,a big know nothing about bodybuilding or science.
I'm sorry I don't have the same education or extensive contest experience that most here at getbig have.