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Title: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 07, 2010, 02:10:23 PM
Time to share your intellectual database. What have you read recently? Any books in particular that stood out?

The last couple of months I've read:

A brief history of Time by Stephen Hawking
Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt(just ordered Superfreakonomics, looking forward to it)
The Missionary position by Christopher Hitchens(a must read, both hilarious and pretty shocking at the same time although overwritten)
Stalin, the Red Tsar and his court by Simon Sebag M.(Buy it, read it)
A book dealing with science philosophy by an author I can't remember the name of
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku(an excellent read if you find theoretical physics fascinating, a little bit easier to grasp than say A brief history of time)
Einstein by Walter Isaacson
June 1941 by John Lukacs(interesting book about Hitler's motives for attacking Russia)
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins(must read, gives you a lot of insight into how animals and evolution in general work)
A huuuge 700 page book summarizing the world's history but can't remember the author(a little bit on the dry side but very educational at the same time)

etc
etc

Pretty much all of it deals with either science or history which I have a hard-on for right now. Obviously I'm reading this only while waiting for Nasser's epic piece of literature to come out, make no mistake  ;D
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 07, 2010, 02:12:05 PM
nerd













 ;D
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:12:15 PM
Time to share your intellectual database. What have you read recently? Any books in particular that stood out?

The last couple of months I've read:

A brief history of Time by Stephen Hawking
Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt(just ordered Superfreakonomics, looking forward to it)
The Missionary position by Christopher Hitchens(a must read, both hilarious and pretty shocking at the same time although overwritten)
Stalin, the Red Tsar and his court by Simon Sebag M.(Buy it, read it)
A book dealing with science philosophy by an author I can't remember the name of
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku(an excellent read if you find theoretical physics fascinating, a little bit easier to grasp than say A brief history of time)
Einstein by Walter Isaacson
June 1941 by John Lukacs(interesting book about Hitler's motives for attacking Russia)
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins(must read, gives you a lot of insight into how animals and evolution in general work)
A huuuge 700 page book summarizing the world's history but can't remember the author(a little bit on the dry side but very educational at the same time)

etc
etc

Pretty much all of it deals with either science or history which I have a hard-on for right now. Obviously I'm reading this only while waiting for Nasser's epic piece of literature to come out, make no mistake  ;D
Only one matters
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: disturbia on December 07, 2010, 02:14:05 PM
On the Road---Kerouac
Variety of Deepak Chopra Books
not much else at the moment
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 07, 2010, 02:16:20 PM
Disturbia, you should read Trout Fishing in America.
And anything by Charles Bukowski.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:18:15 PM
Romance of the Three Kingdoms (Very good book)
The Prince
Makes me Want To holler
Soledad brother
Manchild in the Promised Land
Monster
Autob of Malcolm X
Southern Storm William T Shermans March to the Sea
48 Laws of Power
Autob of Jim brown
Coldest Winter Ever
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 07, 2010, 02:26:52 PM
Option D, did you read this:  The Five Percenters: Islam, Hip Hop, and the Gods of New York?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Black people don't read. I was shocked i didn't see ebony magazine or Snoop Dawgs autobio :D
I have read the Auto Bio of snoop.. I remember he is a liar. Said he lost his virginity at 12 to 2 chicks at the same time
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: StickStickly on December 07, 2010, 02:29:34 PM
Oprah has a nice selection
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Dont-Make-a-Black-Woman-Take-off-Her-Earrings/Tyler-Perry/e/9781594489211
(http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/10760000/10764224.jpg)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:30:07 PM
Option D, did you read this:  The Five Percenters: Islam, Hip Hop, and the Gods of New York?


Havent read either of them...yet.. Im gonna look them up and see if i can get a deal.

I have read City of Quartz and Bastards of the Party. Both about LA.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 07, 2010, 02:30:28 PM
Fiction is Gay
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:31:55 PM
Fiction is Gay

As you can see all of mine are Non-fiction
Except for coldest winter ever.. i read it when i was 18
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 07, 2010, 02:34:01 PM
Just finished Tom Rachman's 'The Imperfectionists,' am presently reading John Valliant's 'The Tiger,' and have Adam Levin's 'The Instructions' in the on-deck circle.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
The outsiders..lmao
Things Fall apart
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 07, 2010, 02:38:08 PM
Havent read either of them...yet.. Im gonna look them up and see if i can get a deal.

I have read City of Quartz and Bastards of the Party. Both about LA.

Mal, that is one book.  It is interesting.  I'm a white guy, so I laugh when all of these young bucks are rapping/spitting about shit they don't even know about. 
Here is one inocuous example:  "Lookin' at my Rolie (Rolex), it's about that time".
They have no idea that this originally came from one of the most unsung MC's of all time:  Schooly D "Gucci Time".
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:42:56 PM
Mal, that is one book.  It is interesting.  I'm a white guy, so I laugh when all of these young bucks are rapping/spitting about shit they don't even know about. 
Here is one inocuous example:  "Lookin' at my Rolie (Rolex), it's about that time".
They have no idea that this originally came from one of the most unsung MC's of all time:  Schooly D "Gucci Time".

Schooly D

Thats the fool in jail for robbing a bank right
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
my bad.. that was Steady B and Cool c who are in jail...not Schooly D..
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 07, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
While "Glamorous Life" was a good song (especially for 7th grade), it cannot hold a candle to any of Schoolly D's library.

Cool C got busted robbing in Conshohocken, while I was in college, if I recally correctly.

The same year I saw the Pharcyde live (one of the greatest/under-rated albums of all rap time), with Souls of Mischief opening for them.

I met a lot of people on the hip-hop scene, and many respected me because I did not try to be "down" as other white kids did.  I looked at rap as individual educational pieces, that told a story (it should) of a life I did not know or could not comprehend, but needed to know if I were to be able to effectively communicate with those "from the streets"; that is to say those unlike me.

Unfortunately, rap has devolved into generation nothingness.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: devilsmile on December 07, 2010, 02:54:09 PM
Lovemonkey you actually read those books receantly, wtf :P

well i finnished my book "Luciferian withcraft" the Azal'ucel Edition, Satan speaks By Anton Lavey and satanic scriptures By Peter H. Gilmore

But since receantly I've become selfaware ( ::)), I don't need to read anything because all the answers are infront of me, but I've been thinking of buying books about goetia and sex magic etc for the lols.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Nirvana on December 07, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
 A bridge too far

Enemy at the Gates

The united methodists hymnal

the longest day.

Jory. (better than True Grit.)

first few pages of the book of mormon
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Cableguy on December 07, 2010, 02:58:52 PM
Only one matters

Picked this up a few weeks ago at the Border's clearance rack for $3.50...:D
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Cableguy on December 07, 2010, 03:03:31 PM
On the Road---Kerouac
Variety of Deepak Chopra Books
not much else at the moment

Always wanted to read "On The Road". Guess I should! My friend always recommended it. And Deepak Chopra has been on my list as well. What book of his do you recommend most? I've been meaning to read "Ageless Body, Timeless Mind".
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
While "Glamorous Life" was a good song (especially for 7th grade), it cannot hold a candle to any of Schoolly D's library.

Cool C got busted robbing in Conshohocken, while I was in college, if I recally correctly.

The same year I saw the Pharcyde live (one of the greatest/under-rated albums of all rap time), with Souls of Mischief opening for them.

I met a lot of people on the hip-hop scene, and many respected me because I did not try to be "down" as other white kids did.  I looked at rap as individual educational pieces, that told a story (it should) of a life I did not know or could not comprehend, but needed to know if I were to be able to effectively communicate with those "from the streets"; that is to say those unlike me.

Unfortunately, rap has devolved into generation nothingness.
I think ill read more. I know Schooly D was Deep  i heard.. My friend say he was one of the originals
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 07, 2010, 03:13:47 PM
Mal, Schooly D was one of the originals for sure.  Check out "P.S.K."
For me, nobody was better than Kool G Rap and Big Daddy Kane, for that time era.
I love to read, and read/digested a lot more books while in law school, which may seem kind of odd.
I used to read while I was working at the gym, during slow hours (books on nutrition, bodybuilding and philosophy were the most often utilized subjects).
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Formerly_Owner76 on December 07, 2010, 05:00:21 PM
(http://twohandsworldshop.com/blog/images/180px-EverybodyPoopsBookCover.jpeg)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tweeter on December 07, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
Reading this right now...
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: PJim on December 07, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
Read The Stand by Stephen King.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Spike on December 07, 2010, 06:34:26 PM
(http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/zombie_survival_guide.jpg)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Nirvana on December 07, 2010, 06:36:36 PM
(http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/zombie_survival_guide.jpg)
it is a common misconception that zombies can run.  However, zombies move at a top speed of just over 3mph.



great book.  it is sure to come in handy one day
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Spike on December 07, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
it is a common misconception that zombies can run.  However, zombies move at a top speed of just over 3mph.



great book.  it is sure to come in handy one day

I rread it when i was stoned and found it in my parents basement

I just kept reading it on the airplane - it was interesting but it got to damn serious - I mean shit I thought haiti was full of zombies when I would get blazed real bad at one point in time
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Alexander D on December 07, 2010, 06:46:26 PM
Black people don't read. I was shocked i didn't see ebony magazine or Snoop Dawgs autobio :D


racist post reported... and sure we read. http://www.blacknews.com/
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: XFACTOR on December 07, 2010, 06:50:16 PM
Flat out awesome!  As far as authors Malcolm Gladwell is still my go to guy .  Love his stuff, but this is great

Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Overload on December 07, 2010, 07:01:41 PM
Just finished...

One flew over the cuckoo's nest

Billions and billions


8)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 07, 2010, 07:02:26 PM
currently reading: too good to be true (bernie madoff book)
just finished: diary - chuck palahniuk

i read more books in the last year and a half than i have my whole life i think.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Firemuscle on December 07, 2010, 07:50:33 PM
 Right now i'm reading Fahrenheit 451, so far it's great.

 Before that I read "The Prince". Also incredibly interesting.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: XFACTOR on December 07, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
currently reading: too good to be true (bernie madoff book)
just finished: diary - chuck palahniuk

i read more books in the last year and a half than i have my whole life i think.

How's Too Good to be True?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Firemuscle on December 07, 2010, 08:10:39 PM
PTPS by BDB

 Who's gimmick are you? Your little one or two word posts are really lame and pointless.

 You're just that guy in the corner of the room who says "yes" and "no" all day. Pointless.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: cephissus on December 07, 2010, 08:11:09 PM
Trying to get through Beyond Good and Evil right now.  I have a hard time reading these days though...
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: StickStickly on December 07, 2010, 09:00:40 PM

We read you stupid honkey crackah. http://www.blacknews.com/
Racist post reported... stop stirring drama  ::)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Firemuscle on December 07, 2010, 09:09:33 PM
Racist post reported... stop stirring drama  ::)

 I like the way you lick that ice cream.

 Are you gonna lick my asshole like that?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 07, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
Flat out awesome!  As far as authors Malcolm Gladwell is still my go to guy .  Love his stuff, but this is great



Aw you dick  ;D

I totally forgot about that one, now I have to buy that one too. I'll send you the bill!
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: kiwiol on December 07, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
Who's gimmick are you? Your little one or two word posts are really lame and pointless.

 You're just that guy in the corner of the room who says "yes" and "no" all day. Pointless.

BDB is a legend here. Watch your mouth, convict.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 07, 2010, 10:07:11 PM
"Pimpology:48 Laws To The Game"
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Tapeworm on December 07, 2010, 11:14:23 PM
Liking Bill Bryson's Shakespeare.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: basil on December 08, 2010, 12:34:41 AM
Time to share your intellectual database. What have you read recently? Any books in particular that stood out?

The last couple of months I've read:

A brief history of Time by Stephen Hawking
Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt(just ordered Superfreakonomics, looking forward to it)
The Missionary position by Christopher Hitchens(a must read, both hilarious and pretty shocking at the same time although overwritten)
Stalin, the Red Tsar and his court by Simon Sebag M.(Buy it, read it)
A book dealing with science philosophy by an author I can't remember the name of
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku(an excellent read if you find theoretical physics fascinating, a little bit easier to grasp than say A brief history of time)
Einstein by Walter Isaacson
June 1941 by John Lukacs(interesting book about Hitler's motives for attacking Russia)
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins(must read, gives you a lot of insight into how animals and evolution in general work)
A huuuge 700 page book summarizing the world's history but can't remember the author(a little bit on the dry side but very educational at the same time)

etc
etc

Pretty much all of it deals with either science or history which I have a hard-on for right now. Obviously I'm reading this only while waiting for Nasser's epic piece of literature to come out, make no mistake  ;D


You must be unemployed.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 08, 2010, 12:45:04 AM
"In Search of Goodpussy: Living Without Love" by Don Spears ;D

Brother West:Living and Loving Out Loud, A Memoir" by Cornell West

Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dyslexic on December 08, 2010, 01:11:16 AM
Crime Scene

Murder in Brentwood

What Cops Know

Law for Dummies

The Strategies of War (Robert Greene)

Fat Land

Fast Food Nation

Stairway to Heaven

The Secret story of Lucifer

Riddles (Aliester Crowley)

Philosophy 101

How to think about weird things: Critical thinking for New Age

Thus spoke Zarathustra: A book for none and all

The Matrix and Philosophy

The Anxiety Phobia workbook

Kinesiology of Exercise

The Templars and Assassins

Three Cups of Tea

The Sacred Romance


(this is just one stack next to my puter...)

I have every philosophy and metaphysics book you can imagine.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 08, 2010, 02:03:42 AM
The Matrix and Philosophy
I might want to read this...
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Tapeworm on December 08, 2010, 02:07:34 AM
I might want to read this...

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/plato.html
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Cyttorak on December 08, 2010, 02:11:30 AM
David M. Buss- The Evolution of Desire
Matt Ridley - The Red Queen, Sex & The Evolution Of Human Nature (1993)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 08, 2010, 02:15:11 AM
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/plato.html
ahhh, whetting my palate..


Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Tapeworm on December 08, 2010, 02:24:26 AM
ahhh, whetting my palate..




Starring Plato as Morpheus.  :D
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 08, 2010, 02:30:37 AM
Starring Plato as Morpheus.  :D
and his daughter as Bacchus ;)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Formerly_Owner76 on December 08, 2010, 02:39:01 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41R2V97JYEL._SS500_.jpg)


Product Description
Noted martial combat writer Bradley Steiner managed to penetrate the inner sanctum of the world's busiest assassination bureaus in compiling this terrifying guide to death-for-sale. Covers edged weapons, handguns, improvised weapons, the garrote and crossbow, poisons, unarmed killing techniques and dim-mak, as well as the attributes of the professional assassin. For information purposes only!

This review is from: Death Dealer's Manual (Paperback)
This book is very thorough in it's description of how to kill another human.. Unlike most other books in the same genre, it does NOT describe obscure and fancy methods, therefore is not especially thick, and it doesn't have to be either.. It's written almost 20 years ago, so please consider the developements in firearms, since the text on handguns doesn't apply 100% today.. It does however describe such things as the correct use of the garotte, which is often badly handled, or outright wrong. All in all, I think this is simply the best book in the genre..
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Tapeworm on December 08, 2010, 02:45:41 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41R2V97JYEL._SS500_.jpg)


Product Description
Noted martial combat writer Bradley Steiner managed to penetrate the inner sanctum of the world's busiest assassination bureaus in compiling this terrifying guide to death-for-sale. Covers edged weapons, handguns, improvised weapons, the garrote and crossbow, poisons, unarmed killing techniques and dim-mak, as well as the attributes of the professional assassin. For information purposes only!

This review is from: Death Dealer's Manual (Paperback)
This book is very thorough in it's description of how to kill another human.. Unlike most other books in the same genre, it does NOT describe obscure and fancy methods, therefore is not especially thick, and it doesn't have to be either.. It's written almost 20 years ago, so please consider the developements in firearms, since the text on handguns doesn't apply 100% today.. It does however describe such things as the correct use of the garotte, which is often badly handled, or outright wrong. All in all, I think this is simply the best book in the genre..

Settle down, Kurt Saxon.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: XFACTOR on December 08, 2010, 03:02:04 AM
Aw you dick  ;D

I totally forgot about that one, now I have to buy that one too. I'll send you the bill!

Amazing book!  I'm almost done.  Some really cool theory he's debating.  Good, especially when thinking about starting a family.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 08, 2010, 09:45:12 AM

You must be unemployed.

lol

I do have a job, I just like to read a lot.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 08, 2010, 10:08:37 AM
How's Too Good to be True?

i'm only about 1/4 of the way in, but it reads more like a crime novel than a financial book.  i guess that's kind of what happened.  i bought it just to see how the hell he pulled it off.

it's a good read, almost "Wall Street" like.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Swedish Viking on December 08, 2010, 10:59:24 AM
Just finishing 007 Dr. No right now.  The book is pretty good.  Anyone else read the Bond books?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 08, 2010, 11:21:46 AM
Currently reading Thomas Ligotti - The conspiracy against the human race - A Short Life of Horror
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 08, 2010, 11:38:09 AM
Just finishing 007 Dr. No right now.  The book is pretty good.  Anyone else read the Bond books?
When I was 12. Fleming had to know his market, as he's a terrible writer.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 08, 2010, 11:44:46 AM
When I was 12. Fleming had to know his market, as he's a terrible writer.
Yes,  very campy, or was it the fact that, that era was very naive? I mean, The Naked And The Dead was a good war novel, and Bush Baby was good as well.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: CalvinH on December 09, 2010, 08:40:39 AM
Anything by Stephen Hunter or Bernard Cornwell.

The Richard Sharpe series,the Starbuck chronicles, and the Saxon stories are all great 8)


....In England they made a series of the Sharpe books into tv shows but I've never seen them here in the states >:(
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: w8m8 on December 09, 2010, 08:48:46 AM
Anything by Stephen Hunter or Bernard Cornwell.

The Richard Sharpe series,the Starbuck chronicles, and the Saxon stories are all great 8)


....In England they made a series of the Sharpe books into tv shows but I've never seen them here in the states >:(


I think these are what you mean ?

 :)


st?p=AFC020498E67DD1D
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: CalvinH on December 09, 2010, 08:53:31 AM
I think these are what you mean ?

 :)


st?p=AFC020498E67DD1D



Tease >:(...I can't open Youtube from this computer!
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 11, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
Epic bump.

My updated list from the last couple of months:

-Europe at War by Norman Davies - a very sobering read about WWII

-Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond - should shut up some two-faced racists out there

-The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch - Fascinating but will probably require at least two more reads before it really sinks in

-Young Stalin by Simon Sebag M. - Amazing

-Billions & Billions and The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan - Very pleasant and informative read

-Hitler's Warriors by Guido Knopp

-Physics of the Future by Michio Kaku - Very fascinating although his books are starting to get very repetitive

-The FountainHead by Ayn Rand - I actually quite enjoyed reading it but the whole philosophy thing has not sunk in yet

-1984, Animal Farm and various essays by George Orwell - By far one of my most favorite authors

-The Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson - Don't remember most of it but I enjoyed it

-Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Jesus Papers by Michael Baigent - Although bordering on being nothing more but a conspiracy theory, the books do contain a lot of relevant facts

That's the ones I can think of right now.. there are surely more to come.

Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: stuntmovie on December 11, 2011, 06:31:06 PM
History of Philosophy by William Turner to learn what I missed in college while getting some needed sleep.

Damcing Wu Li Masters by Gary Zukav– Continuous reading until I get a better  understanding of it.

The Hunger Games because a good number of people have recommended it.

The Hobbit due to friends currently working on the production in NZ …. Actually two films.

Plus I've read a good number of those books previously mentioned.

Four books I'll always remember which most GetBiggers may have never even heard of ...

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn

The Carpetbaggers

Gone With the Wind

Battlecry.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: YngiweRhoads on December 11, 2011, 06:46:43 PM
Time to share your intellectual database. What have you read recently? Any books in particular that stood out?

The last couple of months I've read:

A brief history of Time by Stephen Hawking
Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt(just ordered Superfreakonomics, looking forward to it)
The Missionary position by Christopher Hitchens(a must read, both hilarious and pretty shocking at the same time although overwritten)
Stalin, the Red Tsar and his court by Simon Sebag M.(Buy it, read it)
A book dealing with science philosophy by an author I can't remember the name of
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku(an excellent read if you find theoretical physics fascinating, a little bit easier to grasp than say A brief history of time)
Einstein by Walter Isaacson
June 1941 by John Lukacs(interesting book about Hitler's motives for attacking Russia)
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins(must read, gives you a lot of insight into how animals and evolution in general work)
A huuuge 700 page book summarizing the world's history but can't remember the author(a little bit on the dry side but very educational at the same time)

etc
etc

Pretty much all of it deals with either science or history which I have a hard-on for right now. Obviously I'm reading this only while waiting for Nasser's epic piece of literature to come out, make no mistake  ;D

We have very similar tastes.

I've read a few most of what you've mentioned. Save for the ambiguous titles lol
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: aesthetics on December 11, 2011, 07:14:10 PM
Time to share your intellectual database. What have you read recently? Any books in particular that stood out?

The last couple of months I've read:

A brief history of Time by Stephen Hawking
Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt(just ordered Superfreakonomics, looking forward to it)
The Missionary position by Christopher Hitchens(a must read, both hilarious and pretty shocking at the same time although overwritten)
Stalin, the Red Tsar and his court by Simon Sebag M.(Buy it, read it)
A book dealing with science philosophy by an author I can't remember the name of
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku(an excellent read if you find theoretical physics fascinating, a little bit easier to grasp than say A brief history of time)
Einstein by Walter Isaacson
June 1941 by John Lukacs(interesting book about Hitler's motives for attacking Russia)
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins(must read, gives you a lot of insight into how animals and evolution in general work)
A huuuge 700 page book summarizing the world's history but can't remember the author(a little bit on the dry side but very educational at the same time)

etc
etc

Pretty much all of it deals with either science or history which I have a hard-on for right now. Obviously I'm reading this only while waiting for Nasser's epic piece of literature to come out, make no mistake  ;D

all of those books suck dick   :D

better list of authors:

mishima
nietzsche
deleuze & guattari
kierkegaard is pretty good too if you interpret god for what god really is in society, which is the authorial intent, imo

zizek makes for a good and interesting read, nothing that is groundbreaking that will make you say "holy shit" like with other good authors but he's fun to read and listen to nonetheless
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 11, 2011, 07:33:06 PM
i started reading "romantic economist" but got bored with it very quickly.


i used to like reading philosophy but its gone to shit over the past few hundred years and i havent found any decent stuff for a while.. got into theology a bit and read several books by paul tillich... hes pretty good. probably going to go back into political philosophy if i can find some decent stuff. ..might just have to write some of my own..   :P






nietzsche


:-\
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: SF1900 on December 11, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
all of those books suck dick   :D

better list of authors:

mishima
nietzsche
deleuze & guattari
kierkegaard is pretty good too if you interpret god for what god really is in society, which is the authorial intent, imo

zizek makes for a good and interesting read, nothing that is groundbreaking that will make you say "holy shit" like with other good authors but he's fun to read and listen to nonetheless


nietzsche, nice
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 11, 2011, 07:51:47 PM
nietzsche was a pathetic excuse of a man, a cynical, negative, depressing schmuck who couldnt string together a paragraph without committing some kind of logical fallacy.  died a woman hating virgin whose opinion of the gender was formed solely on his experiences with his sister and whatever harsh rejections he suffered as a result of his awkward patheticness.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: rotaryfan on December 11, 2011, 08:49:10 PM
The Stand - Steven King
Get Laid or Die Trying - Jeff Allen    its totally ridiculous and funny as hell. im sure Getbig would approve

The Dome- by steven king, only a couple hundred pages in so far, but its not bad

agreed, Nietzsche was a lunatic and has never said anything credible. its amazing that he was paid to write. He is just an incomprehensible loser.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: aesthetics on December 11, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
nietzsche was a pathetic excuse of a man, a cynical, negative, depressing schmuck who couldnt string together a paragraph without committing some kind of logical fallacy.  died a woman hating virgin whose opinion of the gender was formed solely on his experiences with his sister and whatever harsh rejections he suffered as a result of his awkward patheticness.

thats true but his writing was still amazing

twilight of the idol and thus spoke zarathrustra were really fucking good. also check out the parable of the madman and tell me you don't say "damn" multiple times while reading this

Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"---As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?---Thus they yelled and laughed

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him---you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars---and yet they have done it themselves.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Spicoli on December 12, 2011, 03:28:50 AM
Alot of Milton Erickson and Joe Dispenza lately.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: juicyjay on December 12, 2011, 09:30:27 AM
A Brief History of Time by Hawking is pure gold. I love his recent conclusion that god was not needed to crete the universe, and he can prove it lol. Religious people went nutssssssss. Aside from that, i've been reading The Complete Works of Edgar Allen Poe, and The Rum Diary by my favorite writer of all time, Hunter S. Thompson.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2011, 09:36:35 AM
Will Self's 'Walking to Hollywood.' Here's an author that's really not for everybody. 
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: wes on December 12, 2011, 09:41:24 AM
Settle down, Kurt Saxon.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41R2V97JYEL._SS500_.jpg)


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This review is from: Death Dealer's Manual (Paperback)
This book is very thorough in it's description of how to kill another human.. Unlike most other books in the same genre, it does NOT describe obscure and fancy methods, therefore is not especially thick, and it doesn't have to be either.. It's written almost 20 years ago, so please consider the developements in firearms, since the text on handguns doesn't apply 100% today.. It does however describe such things as the correct use of the garotte, which is often badly handled, or outright wrong. All in all, I think this is simply the best book in the genre..


I had no clue that Bradley J. Steiner wrote anything but books on weight training.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 12, 2011, 03:53:07 PM
A Brief History of Time by Hawking is pure gold. I love his recent conclusion that god was not needed to crete the universe, and he can prove it lol. Religious people went nutssssssss.
because he is a fucking moron who doesnt even understand the basic concepts in his own field of expertise.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Raymondo on December 12, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
because he is a fucking moron who doesnt even understand the basic concepts in his own field of expertise.

it seems you need to come to england and have a long talk with him to relieve him of his delusions
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 12, 2011, 04:07:41 PM
it seems you need to come to england and have a long talk with him to relieve him of his delusions
im quite sure he would backpeddle on some of his more egregious statements once i verbally bitch slapped him a little bit
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Raymondo on December 12, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
im quite sure he would backpeddle on some of his more egregious statements once i verbally bitch slapped him a little bit

I can only imagine, someone like Hawking is nowhere near remotely of your intellectual caliber.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Spicoli on December 12, 2011, 11:23:00 PM
The wisest man I the one who admits he knows nothing.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 13, 2011, 08:10:20 AM
because he is a fucking moron who doesnt even understand the basic concepts in his own field of expertise.

Please elaborate. I'm not arguing for or against your position. I'm just curios.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Mr. Magoo on December 13, 2011, 08:13:52 AM
The wisest man I the one who admits he knows nothing.

oh brother, I see you read your first Plato dialogue

what are you, 12?

 ::)
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: CalvinH on December 13, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Andy McNab...he's an ex SAS soldier that has a fictional series on an ex-soldier out.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Mr. Magoo on December 13, 2011, 08:24:38 AM
Fuck I don't know what books I've read lately, I read 1-2 per week

About to finish up the revised edition (to compare to original) of A Theory of Justice by John Rawls

last books include: White Noise (fiction), John Christman's Social and Political Philosophy book, as well as Jonathan Wolff's political philosophy book, a logic book, some John Stuart Mill (On liberty, subjection of women, utilitarianism, reread these from before), published lectures of John Rawls, etc

About to start (over the next 2-3 weeks) AC Grayling's intro to logic book, Sovereign Virtue by Dworkin (egalitarianism), some essays by Gerry Cohen, Law's Empire, and some HLA Hart as well as commentary of him and Dworkin's arguments against each other
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 13, 2011, 08:34:02 AM
Please elaborate. I'm not arguing for or against your position. I'm just curios.
"asking what happened before the big bang is like asking whats north of the north pole" .. one of his many moronic statements
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 13, 2011, 08:39:21 AM
"asking what happened before the big bang is like asking whats north of the north pole" .. one of his many moronic statements

Gotcha.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 13, 2011, 08:41:14 AM
Gotcha.
are you still believing in massless particles?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 13, 2011, 09:57:43 AM
are you still believing in massless particles?

Yes. Please tell me where you find mass in this equation describing the total energy of a photon:

E=hc/λ

I'll be delighted to hear your answer.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: johnnynoname on December 13, 2011, 10:12:39 AM
I'm reading a book about the all black guys tbombz has banged





It's a long book
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 13, 2011, 10:38:09 AM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2zhjvcx.jpg)
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 13, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
Just got about 15 new books the other day. Eleven Madison Park has been the only one I've been reading of the bunch so far and it's terrific!
Well, you must have looked over 000's of cookbooks in your time. What makes this one worth noting?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: kiwiol on December 13, 2011, 12:30:05 PM
I can only imagine, someone like Hawking is nowhere near remotely of your intellectual caliber.

tbombz is the biggest expert in the world...on black holes.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 13, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
tbombz is the biggest expert in the world...on black holes.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Spicoli on December 13, 2011, 01:02:32 PM
oh brother, I see you read your first Plato dialogue

what are you, 12?

 ::)

I wish. Then I would be much closer to my girlfriends age.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 13, 2011, 07:17:38 PM
Yes. Please tell me where you find mass in this equation describing the total energy of a photon:

E=hc/λ

I'll be delighted to hear your answer.
this should be common sense and easily understood,  a "massless" anything is by definition impossible.

 photons mass can not be measured.... with current technology.... 

but photons absolutely have mass.. they have, or more accurately, ARE energy...

and energy=mass and mass=energy...   
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: apply85 on December 13, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
i dont read books, a good estimate for how many books ive read my whole life is 30
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: aesthetics on December 13, 2011, 07:57:49 PM
"asking what happened before the big bang is like asking whats north of the north pole" .. one of his many moronic statements

thats a legitimate question to ask from a philosophical and metaphysical point of view
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 14, 2011, 01:51:07 AM
this should be common sense and easily understood,  a "massless" anything is by definition impossible.

 photons mass can not be measured.... with current technology.... 

but photons absolutely have mass.. they have, or more accurately, ARE energy...

and energy=mass and mass=energy...   

What is it with your obsession with mass? You know next to nothing about particle physics but you still claim to know something that for example Stephen Hawking does not. A photon is a very bizarre thing in many aspects since it automatically travels at the speed of light and is at the same time a neutral particle/wave that is not affected by any magnetic or electromagnetic fields whatsoever. There's nothing to currently suggest that it has mass.

Energy equals mass only when there is any mass to be had as in the theory of relativity and it's described by the famous formula E=mc^2. An objects/particles total mass is also given by
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/3/c/63c2f2f10e83e1067c19e77e81e94ab5.png)
where you can clearly see(if you know basic math and physics) that if you get really close to the speed of light you'd require an infinite amount of energy to travel any faster and hence your relativistic mass increases.

This does not apply to photons however as described by E=hc/λ. It's energy only depends on it's frequency! Get this into your head!
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: paradoxno1 on December 14, 2011, 02:43:59 AM
Have you seen the world's shortest books?:
Jewish Business Ethics.
Italian War Heroes.
Negroes I Have Met While Yachting.
Aboriginal Hygiene Hints.
Adolf Hitler's Kosher Recipes.
Muslim Pork Dishes.
Great Women Drivers of Today.
The Complete Guide to Catholic Sex.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: kiwiol on December 14, 2011, 03:01:12 AM
What is it with your obsession with mass? You know next to nothing about particle physics but you still claim to know something that for example Stephen Hawking does not. A photon is a very bizarre thing in many aspects since it automatically travels at the speed of light and is at the same time a neutral particle/wave that is not affected by any magnetic or electromagnetic fields whatsoever. There's nothing to currently suggest that it has mass.

Energy equals mass only when there is any mass to be had as in the theory of relativity and it's described by the famous formula E=mc^2. An objects/particles total mass is also given by
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/3/c/63c2f2f10e83e1067c19e77e81e94ab5.png)
where you can clearly see(if you know basic math and physics) that if you get really close to the speed of light you'd require an infinite amount of energy to travel any faster and hence your relativistic mass increases.

This does not apply to photons however as described by E=hc/λ. It's energy only depends on it's frequency! Get this into your head!

He has the same approach towards physics that Johnny Falcon has towards medicine/physiology - have very little knowledge of the fundamental concepts and then try to explain phenomenon using a simplistic, illiterate approach that involves rationalization using non-scientific arguments, while expressing contempt for experts who've actually studied and developed theories in the field.

You won't get any scientific rebuttal from tbombz regarding the mass energy equation, just an oversimplified, illogical argument that's a mixture of metaphor, metaphysics and semantics, like, "If it has no mass, how can it exist?"
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 14, 2011, 04:33:48 AM
He has the same approach towards physics that Johnny Falcon has towards medicine/physiology - have very little knowledge of the fundamental concepts and then try to explain phenomenon using a simplistic, illiterate approach that involves rationalization using non-scientific arguments, while expressing contempt for experts who've actually studied and developed theories in the field.

You won't get any scientific rebuttal from tbombz regarding the mass energy equation, just an oversimplified, illogical argument that's a mixture of metaphor, metaphysics and semantics, like, "If it has no mass, how can it exist?"
    :)
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 14, 2011, 04:53:54 AM
Have you seen the world's shortest books?:
Jewish Business Ethics.
Italian War Heroes.
Negroes I Have Met While Yachting.
Aboriginal Hygiene Hints.
Adolf Hitler's Kosher Recipes.
Muslim Pork Dishes.
Great Women Drivers of Today.
The Complete Guide to Catholic Sex.

German humor...
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Swlabr on December 14, 2011, 05:19:49 AM
because he is a fucking moron who doesnt even understand the basic concepts in his own field of expertise.

hahahahahahhahaa

I like you, you're a good guy at heart but so delusional it hurts.

brb teaching one of the world's most respected experts in his field about HIS OWN FIELD

ahahahahahah
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2011, 05:23:23 AM
Time to share your intellectual database. What have you read recently? Any books in particular that stood out?

The last couple of months I've read:

A brief history of Time by Stephen Hawking
Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt(just ordered Superfreakonomics, looking forward to it)
The Missionary position by Christopher Hitchens(a must read, both hilarious and pretty shocking at the same time although overwritten)
Stalin, the Red Tsar and his court by Simon Sebag M.(Buy it, read it)
A book dealing with science philosophy by an author I can't remember the name of
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku(an excellent read if you find theoretical physics fascinating, a little bit easier to grasp than say A brief history of time)
Einstein by Walter Isaacson
June 1941 by John Lukacs(interesting book about Hitler's motives for attacking Russia)
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins(must read, gives you a lot of insight into how animals and evolution in general work)
A huuuge 700 page book summarizing the world's history but can't remember the author(a little bit on the dry side but very educational at the same time)

etc
etc

Pretty much all of it deals with either science or history which I have a hard-on for right now. Obviously I'm reading this only while waiting for Nasser's epic piece of literature to come out, make no mistake  ;D
What, you have read all those books and yet you are still dumb enough to post here.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Swlabr on December 14, 2011, 05:24:09 AM
Currently reading Stewart's 'Calculus'. Great book, one of my favourites.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Overload on December 14, 2011, 03:19:39 PM
this should be common sense and easily understood,  a "massless" anything is by definition impossible.

 photons mass can not be measured.... with current technology.... 

but photons absolutely have mass.. they have, or more accurately, ARE energy...

and energy=mass and mass=energy...   

Take some courses in real Science and come back.

I like the fact that you think outside of the box, but you simply cannot debate something like this without the fundamental knowledge of Science and advanced Math.  I used to think the same, but after years of Engineering, Science and Math classes, i was quite humbled.

Study some Astronomy or Astrophysics and come back and debate then.


8)
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: apply85 on December 14, 2011, 03:20:42 PM
what pretentions, and you wish you could come up with even one incomplete thought that i come up with
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Overload on December 14, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
I'm currently reading.

-The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search for God

by the late Carl Sagan.



8)
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: BIG ACH on December 14, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
One of my favorite series of books is the vampire chronicles by Anne Rice, been a while but I want to read more of them soon.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: arce1988 on December 14, 2011, 03:53:16 PM
The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 14, 2011, 06:07:17 PM
What is it with your obsession with mass? You know next to nothing about particle physics but you still claim to know something that for example Stephen Hawking does not. A photon is a very bizarre thing in many aspects since it automatically travels at the speed of light and is at the same time a neutral particle/wave that is not affected by any magnetic or electromagnetic fields whatsoever. There's nothing to currently suggest that it has mass.

Energy equals mass only when there is any mass to be had as in the theory of relativity and it's described by the famous formula E=mc^2. An objects/particles total mass is also given by
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/3/c/63c2f2f10e83e1067c19e77e81e94ab5.png)
where you can clearly see(if you know basic math and physics) that if you get really close to the speed of light you'd require an infinite amount of energy to travel any faster and hence your relativistic mass increases.

This does not apply to photons however as described by E=hc/λ. It's energy only depends on it's frequency! Get this into your head!

first let me point out that your statement about requiring an infinite amount of energy to moce faster than the speed of light is extremely moronic.  if its possible to go faster, there is a quantity of energy that will make it happen. if its not possible, then not even an "infinite amount of energy" could make it happen.

secondly, a photon is energy. a tiny glowing little piece of power, if you will. think of a ray of sun light divided up into a million pieces. that little golden bit of energy. get it very very small. thats, basically, what a photon is.  now.. that little glowing piece of energy... does it take up space?  if it takes up space, it has mass.  AND if its going at the speed of light it has built up a wicked amount of kinetic energy that adds to its mass making it quite a massive object.

Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 14, 2011, 06:08:29 PM
"If it has no mass, how can it exist?"
can 1+1=3 ?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: King Shizzo on December 14, 2011, 06:17:44 PM
What is it with your obsession with mass? You know next to nothing about particle physics but you still claim to know something that for example Stephen Hawking does not. A photon is a very bizarre thing in many aspects since it automatically travels at the speed of light and is at the same time a neutral particle/wave that is not affected by any magnetic or electromagnetic fields whatsoever. There's nothing to currently suggest that it has mass.

Energy equals mass only when there is any mass to be had as in the theory of relativity and it's described by the famous formula E=mc^2. An objects/particles total mass is also given by
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/3/c/63c2f2f10e83e1067c19e77e81e94ab5.png)
where you can clearly see(if you know basic math and physics) that if you get really close to the speed of light you'd require an infinite amount of energy to travel any faster and hence your relativistic mass increases.

This does not apply to photons however as described by E=hc/λ. It's energy only depends on it's frequency! Get this into your head!
Wtf is this drivel?  Where's the vagina pics?
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: stuntmovie on December 14, 2011, 06:26:16 PM
3/4 of the way through THE HUNGER GAME.

Nowhere near a book for intellectuals such as mentioned above but entertaining nonetheless and it appears that Hollywood has a lot of confidence in it's financial  success next year.

Basically it a story in which the post  Armageddon central government forces 12 of its colonies to submit one male and one female between the ages of 12 to 18 each year to fight to the death until the last individual is standing.

This is enforced as a form of punishment after those colonies start a war against the central government and lose.

I understand that it's currently a major seller.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: stuntmovie on December 14, 2011, 06:28:54 PM
Monkey, How did you write that formula ?
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2011, 12:45:41 AM
What is it with your obsession with mass? You know next to nothing about particle physics but you still claim to know something that for example Stephen Hawking does not. A photon is a very bizarre thing in many aspects since it automatically travels at the speed of light and is at the same time a neutral particle/wave that is not affected by any magnetic or electromagnetic fields whatsoever. There's nothing to currently suggest that it has mass.

Energy equals mass only when there is any mass to be had as in the theory of relativity and it's described by the famous formula E=mc^2. An objects/particles total mass is also given by
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/3/c/63c2f2f10e83e1067c19e77e81e94ab5.png)
where you can clearly see(if you know basic math and physics) that if you get really close to the speed of light you'd require an infinite amount of energy to travel any faster and hence your relativistic mass increases.

This does not apply to photons however as described by E=hc/λ. It's energy only depends on it's frequency! Get this into your head!
Was reading this and thought of your discourse with Tbombz

http://www.parabola.org/seeing-table-of-contents (http://www.parabola.org/seeing-table-of-contents)
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 01:22:26 AM
first let me point out that your statement about requiring an infinite amount of energy to moce faster than the speed of light is extremely moronic.  if its possible to go faster, there is a quantity of energy that will make it happen. if its not possible, then not even an "infinite amount of energy" could make it happen.

secondly, a photon is energy. a tiny glowing little piece of power, if you will. think of a ray of sun light divided up into a million pieces. that little golden bit of energy. get it very very small. thats, basically, what a photon is.  now.. that little glowing piece of energy... does it take up space?  if it takes up space, it has mass.  AND if its going at the speed of light it has built up a wicked amount of kinetic energy that adds to its mass making it quite a massive object.



Are you trolling?

With this kind of nonsense for a response you have to be joking surely.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 01:27:03 AM
He has the same approach towards physics that Johnny Falcon has towards medicine/physiology - have very little knowledge of the fundamental concepts and then try to explain phenomenon using a simplistic, illiterate approach that involves rationalization using non-scientific arguments, while expressing contempt for experts who've actually studied and developed theories in the field.

You won't get any scientific rebuttal from tbombz regarding the mass energy equation, just an oversimplified, illogical argument that's a mixture of metaphor, metaphysics and semantics, like, "If it has no mass, how can it exist?"

I get what you're saying and if it had been anyone else besides tbombz spewing this nonsense I would have been absolutely convinced he was trolling by now. But the sad thing is that I think he's being genuine here and I simply can not wrap my mind around it. I just can't let go of it. His arrogance and ignorance is simply awe-inspiring.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: kiwiol on December 15, 2011, 02:50:10 AM
Are you trolling?

With this kind of nonsense for a response you have to joking surely.

The defense rests.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2011, 04:21:29 AM
The defense rests.
Judgement: Banishment to Retard Island.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Mr. Magoo on December 15, 2011, 05:03:35 AM
Tbombz:


Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Swlabr on December 15, 2011, 05:41:53 AM
I don't even... how can someone be so delusional? Dude, you don't even know basic mathematics, how can you call anything 'moronic'?
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 15, 2011, 08:21:15 AM
Coach John Woodens Pyramid of Success for about the fifth time. Great inspiration!
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 15, 2011, 12:38:13 PM
Are you trolling?

With this kind of nonsense for a response you have to be joking surely.
im not going to get into a scientific debate because i am not an expert on the science. in the last thread we talked about this i quoted someone else who was more informed than I who explained that indeed photons have mass, just immeasurable mass. 

It is not that a photon has no mass. A photon has no “rest-mass” but it does have a unified entity called “mass-energy”, which has the same properties as rest mass does, as far as gravitation is concerned.

Consider a pair of electron and positron. They have rest mass, which other masses surrounding them can feel and react to. If this pair of electron and positron were to collide each other and turn themselves into photons, their previous rest mass did not just simply vanish but became mass-energy of the photons. The surrounding masses would still feel the gravitational effect of “mass-energy” of the photons as if it still were rest mass of a pair of electron and positron.

What is meant by the sentence “A photon has no rest-mass” is that there is no frame in which a photon appears at rest. So, it’s impossible to talk about rest-mass of a photon. A photon can only travel at a speed of light and what is measurable is only its mass-energy quantity.



but this kind of talk is unnecessary.

this is basic, common sense.  if soemthing exists, it takes up space. if something takes up space, it has mass.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 15, 2011, 12:39:16 PM
His arrogance and ignorance is simply awe-inspiring.
the arrogance of the scientists of the last century is what is awe-inspiring.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 12:47:57 PM
im not going to get into a scientific debate because i am not an expert on the science. in the last thread we talked about this i quoted someone else who was more informed than I who explained that indeed photons have mass, just immeasurable mass.  

It is not that a photon has no mass. A photon has no “rest-mass” but it does have a unified entity called “mass-energy”, which has the same properties as rest mass does, as far as gravitation is concerned.

Consider a pair of electron and positron. They have rest mass, which other masses surrounding them can feel and react to. If this pair of electron and positron were to collide each other and turn themselves into photons, their previous rest mass did not just simply vanish but became mass-energy of the photons. The surrounding masses would still feel the gravitational effect of “mass-energy” of the photons as if it still were rest mass of a pair of electron and positron.

What is meant by the sentence “A photon has no rest-mass” is that there is no frame in which a photon appears at rest. So, it’s impossible to talk about rest-mass of a photon. A photon can only travel at a speed of light and what is measurable is only its mass-energy quantity.



but this kind of talk is unnecessary.

this is basic, common sense.  if soemthing exists, it takes up space. if something takes up space, it has mass.

Wanna play the copy and paste game huh? Let's do it

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/960731.html (http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/960731.html)

"The Question

(Submitted July 31, 1996)
Do photons have mass? Because the equations E=mc2, and E=hf, imply that m=hf/c2 . Is it so?

The Answer

No, photons do not have mass, but they do have momentum. The proper, general equation to use is E2 = m2c4 + p2c2 So in the case of a photon, m=0 so E = pc or p = E/c. On the other hand, for a particle with mass m at rest (i.e., p = 0), you get back the famous E = mc2.
This equation often enters theoretical work in X-ray and Gamma-ray astrophysics, for example in Compton scattering where photons are treated as particles colliding with electrons.

Andy Ptak"


http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/index.html?quid=240 (http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/index.html?quid=240)

Do photons have mass? If not, then how does gravity affect light (i.e. Black holes)?

Photons, the tiny packets that make up light, do not have mass. However, they do have momentum, even though we learn in physics class that an object's momentum is proportional to its mass. Scientists discovered that a photon's momentum is proportional to its frequency - a property that we usually use to describe things like sound waves. So how can this "particle" have no mass (a property of particles), and yet have a frequency (a property of waves)?
Countless experiments have led scientists to conclude that light is neither a wave nor a particle, but that it is actually both! This is called the wave-particle duality of light: one experiment will show that light is made of particle-like bundles of energy, while another will show light splitting and recombining like wave-fronts in water.

But if light has no mass, then how is the pull of gravity from a black hole so strong that light can't escape? Einstein figured this out with a thought experiment (a favorite past time of great thinkers), and detailed the answer in his theory of general relativity.

Imagine you are in a transparent elevator and your friend is outside aiming a flashlight into your eyes. Annoyed, you press the second floor button. If your friend doesn't move the flashlight, you'll see the light move from your eyes, down your chest, and then past your feet as you accelerate away. From your point of view in the elevator, the light "bent" as you accelerated. So what does this have to do with gravity? In short, Einstein's principle of equivalence states that there is no difference between being accelerated and being pulled by gravity. So if an acceleration "bent" light, then so should gravity - and this is what experiments show! It's usually only seen with massive objects that have very strong gravitational pulls like the Sun and black holes, but scientists have documented this phenomenon and Einstein's theories have been proven extremely accurate.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 12:50:26 PM
the arrogance of the scientists of the last century is what is awe-inspiring.

How can you say that when you know absolutely nothing about the things they do research on? Were they all wrong? What the hell do you think you're typing on right now?
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 15, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
what you copy and pasted didnt address what i copy and pasted.

  in fact it doesnt nothing to refute it at all.

if one were to read both copy and pastes,  they would still understand that a photon is only "massless" because its never at rest and therefore its rest-mass is immeasurable.

but it indeed has "mass-energy", which is the same thing as just plain "mass".




Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 15, 2011, 01:00:37 PM
How can you say that when you know absolutely nothing about the things they do research on? Were they all wrong? What the hell do you think you're typing on right now?
basic, common sense my friend.  the principles of logic applied to physics and the history of time.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 01:02:37 PM
what you copy and pasted didnt address what i copy and pasted.

  in fact it doesnt nothing to refute it at all.

if one were to read both copy and pastes,  they would still understand that a photon is only "massless" because its never at rest and therefore its rest-mass is immeasurable.

but it indeed has "mass-energy", which is the same thing as just plain "mass".



This is where you're wrong and it also seems that whoever typed that quote is also wrong/misguided. It's a common misconception to apply the E=mc^2 formula to photons and therefore think they have mass.

Quote
But photons have energy. By E=mc2, doesn't this mean that they have A mass?

The equation above was derived from this expression:

E2=(pc)2+(m0c2)2


A photon can still have zero invariant mass (m0), and can still have energy. There's nothing inconsistent here. All of the photon's energy is in the term pc. Some people would say that this is the photon's "inertial mass", since it is similar to the inertia that one feels when trying to stop a moving mass. This may or may not be useful to consider. However, it certainly should not be confused with the concept of the ordinary mass that most people are familiar with.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
basic, common sense my friend.  the principles of logic applied to physics and the history of time.

There's absolutely no way you're not trolling at this point.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
basic, common sense my friend.  the principles of logic applied to physics and the history of time.
Might as well drop out now, bombz. It's obvious you know it all. A(ny) degree would just be superfluous at this point.
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 15, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
This is where you're wrong and it also seems that whoever typed that quote is also wrong/misguided. It's a common misconception to apply the E=mc^2 formula to photons and therefore think they have mass.

no, he wasnt wrong.

If this pair of electron and positron were to collide each other and turn themselves into photons, their previous rest mass did not just simply vanish but became mass-energy of the photons.

this is basic. niether mass nor energy is ever destroyed.

 again, if something exists it takes up space. if something takes up space, it has mass.
  

i will  suggest to you though.. if you consider the idea of energy as not existing at all in physical terms.. but only in a supernatural "ghostly" manner..  like a spirit which can be seen but is transparant, permeable, and not physical... then its possible for it to exist and not have any physical mass..
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: tbombz on December 15, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
Might as well drop out now, bombz. It's obvious you know it all. A(ny) degree would just be superfluous at this point.
chimps, use your head a little bit, if you read my posts its obvious im not being arrogant, i wont even attempt to dicsuss complex scientific issues because i am unable to do so. i stay in the realm of basic concepts and logical deduction. 
Title: Re: The Book Thread (cool people need not apply)
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2011, 01:26:06 PM
no, he wasnt wrong.

If this pair of electron and positron were to collide each other and turn themselves into photons, their previous rest mass did not just simply vanish but became mass-energy of the photons.

this is basic. niether mass nor energy is ever destroyed.

 again, if something exists it takes up space. if something takes up space, it has mass.
  

i will  suggest to you though.. if you consider the idea of energy as not existing at all in physical terms.. but only in a supernatural "ghostly" manner..  like a spirit which can be seen but is transparant, permeable, and not physical... then its possible for it to exist and not have any physical mass..

You're making the exact same mistake again. Photons have momentum-energy and not mass-energy.

Btw, for someone ripping modern science apart to its core you sure do like to use the results of it to try and prove a misguided point. You can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: The book thread(cool people need not apply)
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2011, 01:32:33 PM
chimps, use your head a little bit, if you read my posts its obvious im not being arrogant, i wont even attempt to dicsuss complex scientific issues because i am unable to do so. i stay in the realm of basic concepts and logical deduction. 
That's all right. I've met a goodly number of bar-stool prophets in my time. They never really accomplish anything, but, boyo, they do know how to talk a good game. Usually flamed out by 40, and dead by 50, so ya got that to look forward to.   :-\