With proper Diet, No Cardio Needed

[CalvinH]

This thread should be a conversation between two new joiners janitors at the gym, while they work in sets of barbell curls in the squat rack and sip on their second lucozade of the hour.

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[dr.chimps]

This thread should be a conversation between two new joiners at the gym, while they work in sets of barbell curls in the squat rack and sip on their second lucozade of the hour.

Ha! Total Brit crap. Reminds me to get another lemon squash. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

Fuck Cardio.  Who needs a healthy heart anyways 

[Coach is Back!]

Fuck Cardio.  Who needs a healthy heart anyways 

Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.

[YngiweRhoads]

Calorie restriction and weight training is all that's needed to get ripped at any age.

[Shockwave]

Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.

really? Thats intredasting to me.

[Coach is Back!]

Calorie restriction and weight training is all that's needed to get ripped at any age.

It's not just calorie restriction. That would be too easy. 2000 calories of snickers bars isn't equivalent to 2000k of chicken, beef, fish, eggs, veggies, fruits, etc....

[Icelord]

Also: creating a 500 calorie deficit through diet and the same through cardio isn't the same for fat-burning.

[El Diablo Blanco]

two things are needed if avoiding cardio, well maybe 3.

1.  Lower calorie intake than daily requirements
2.  Time, lots of time
3. If needed is some supplements, ECA, T3 etc...

[Icelord]

two things are needed if avoiding cardio, well maybe 3.

1.  Lower calorie intake than daily requirements
2.  Time, lots of time
3. If needed is some supplements, ECA, T3 etc...

In most cases, simply dieting at a deficit and lift weights isn't enough to achieve the kind of conditioning galeniko or neptune showed in their pictures. Again, naturally high thyroid activity will be the key here for those who can ignore cardio and have a hardbody. But the corollary is those types of people also find their ability to gain and maintain muscle naturally is extremely limited, which gives them that characteristic flat, undefined lean look we associate with pure ectomorphs. For everyone else, you'll hit a plateau, which is usually in the 12-15% range. To get below that, it takes pharmaceutical supplementation that forces the body to burn supplemental fat reserves, or it takes cardio on top of the dieting/training. It's not really a secret, being and staying lean requires a full-time commitment. Like gal said, his lines disappear and reappear based on something as basic as a salted meal.

[ProudVirgin69]

Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.

Haha no it doesn't.  There's no substitute for steady-state cardio in terms of heart health.  For fat loss, I'll agree, it's not strictly necessary

But any cardiologist will tell you you're wrong.....and I'm sure you're gonna respond saying that you know better than them

[BikiniSlut]

Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.

Oh brother what a vague statement.

One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.

You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.

Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.

[stavios]

I prefer eating  lof of protein,carbs and low fat with having a lot of cheat meals and training as often as I can twice a day

I don't even feel like I am dieting as 2 days per week I eat whatever the fuck I want

I get as lean as when I watched what I ate more and trained only once a day

[Coach is Back!]

Oh brother what a vague statement.

One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.

You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.

Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.

No it wouldn't.. See "aerobic energy system". Get back to me on that.

[ProudVirgin69]

Oh brother what a vague statement.

One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.

You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.

Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.

Are you saying that getting your medical advice from "The Coach" may be ill-advised?

[Coach is Back!]

Oh brother what a vague statement.

One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.

You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.

Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.

No, that's not what I meant at all. Are you saying when you weight train, you're not working out the heart? Just want to be clear on that.

[dyslexic]

Why do these threads always turn into Guru type "I know best" threads?



If one size fit all, why isn't there just one size made?

[Coach is Back!]

Why do these threads always turn into Guru type "I know best" threads?



If one size fit all, why isn't there just one size made?

Not a guru. I spend a lot of time on research. Plus, I've been doing this forever.

[Neptune100]

5'10-210-natural at around 10% bodyfat. In your face. Not the best definitely not the worst. Low carbs all day.

[FermiDirac]

Skipping the cardio and calling oneself an athlete goes hand in hand. 

[Neptune100]

5'10-210-natural at around 10% bodyfat. In your face. Not the best definitely not the worst. Low carbs all day.

Low carbs, little cardio, whereas lots of people waste hours and hours at gym doing cardio to cut, no calorie deficit, and best part is I grow well from this.

[Cleanest Natural]

good build.. neprune

i am an advocate of cardio but in a non hamster way..playing sports a few hours a week