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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/active-shooter-texas-school-live-b2086500.html
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for once i just want to see a non active shooter
like a leisurely shooter
they are just so damn active!
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for once i just want to see a non active shooter
like a leisurely shooter
they are just so damn active!
Hahah a leisurely shooter.
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I’m waiting for Vince Goodrum to report on it
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I’m waiting for Vince Goodrum to report on it
World star should report shortly.
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Just saw this on the news this is absolutely horrific. I wish I could torture this kid for years in my basement and he didn’t get killed. What kind of a pussy kills little kids. At least go to a ghetto and start a gun fight.
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What a sick fuck....should have let him live and hung him by his balls for the rest of his life.
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What a sick fuck....should have let him live and hung him by his balls for the rest of his life.
I don't think he had any
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He is obviously a Latino man identifying as a white man which makes him a white supremacist.
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latinos kills
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Wonder what BLM will say about this
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(https://i.postimg.cc/3rq92NjV/merr.gif)
True or False?
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhCWMJrW/FTjj-ZXJWYAAKAsj.jpg)
Same guy?
(https://i.postimg.cc/cH12LBPP/FTjk-Lo4-WUAEHR5j.jpg)
NYC subway....Meanwhile the media is playing up today's victim of this guy(below)as LGTB...
The media, mayorkas, garland, blinken..... have narratives that they want reality to fit...
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4fpTC79/FTjdoh-JXEAIIz8-D.jpg)
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Damn, 14 kids and 1 teacher dead.
According to Fox7 Austin, the deceased children are 2nd, 3rd and 4th graders between the ages of 7 and 9 years-old. Another 13 children were transported to the hospital.
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This world has just really gone insane.
Stories like this are hard to stomach. :-\
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(https://i.postimg.cc/cH12LBPP/FTjk-Lo4-WUAEHR5j.jpg)
Two hits. Me hitting you. You hitting the floor
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Two hits. Me hitting you. You hitting the floor
Breakfast Club.
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There will be a renewed push by the left to creat new gun laws that only affect.......... people who obey the law.
Meanwhile, also by the left, people who commit crimes with guns will not be held accountable. See shitbird that had his charges dropped after shooting a cop.
This is an unspeakable horror. Something meaningful must be done. Some one needs to send send a strongly worded tweet.
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ban mexicans
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There will be a renewed push by the left to creat new gun laws that only affect.......... people who obey the law.
Meanwhile, also by the left, people who commit crimes with guns will not be held accountable. See shitbird that had his charges dropped after shooting a cop.
This is an unspeakable horror. Something meaningful must be done. Some one needs to send send a strongly worded tweet.
They will advocate for the complete opposite of what should be done. Those kids had absolutely ZERO protection
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Sadly, there will be more mass shootings from those now 19 and under. Some won't get to it until they're older, but they've been permanently warped by our C-19 response. >:(
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Guy shot and killed his grandmother before heading to school. Word is the death toll is up to 21 now at the school. Dude is/was twisted.
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The authorities knew about him…nothing was done
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Sadly, there will be more mass shootings from those now 19 and under. Some won't get to it until they're older, but they've been permanently warped by our C-19 response. >:(
Sadly, I think you're on to something with this. On so many levels.
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Breakfast Club.
;D
Dude looks like Bender
(https://i.postimg.cc/cH12LBPP/FTjk-Lo4-WUAEHR5j.jpg)
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Sadly, I think you're on to something with this. On so many levels.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-next-pandemic-mental-illness-homelessness-buffalo-shooting-online-hospital-11652906894
The Next Pandemic: Mental Illness
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That is ending. They are everywhere—on the streets, in our homes, our schools and prisons. Emerging from the Covid-19 pandemic, America is overflowing with people suffering from a broad range of mental disturbance. Mental illness is the U.S.’s next pandemic.
At one extreme, Buffalo mass-murder suspect Payton Gendron is another case study in how the U.S. looks past this problem. As with Nikolas Cruz, the Parkland, Fla., mass murderer, it is being widely reported that Gendron was admitted to a hospital last year for mental evaluation, that “signals were missed,” etc. At Virginia Tech 15 years ago, “signals were missed” for a disturbed 23-year-old shooter who killed 32 people.
Signals aren’t missed. They are ignored, because there is no pragmatic understanding of what to do with the signals of mental illness. Instead, we divert into a largely irrelevant search for “motive.”
Note how official commentary about the Buffalo shooting is overwhelmingly political, with President Joe Biden and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul describing the attacks primarily as racism, and the media obsessing over “replacement theory.” Defaulting to recrimination puts us in our current political comfort zone, while the reality of Payton Gendron’s mental disturbance will fade—until next time.
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Now the fool is talking. After rambling about loss and prayer he launched into a tirade against the gun lobby and gun makers. Jackass.
Why doesn't he look at the sentencing record of Ketanji Brown? He knew she was weak on crime and appointed her anyway. Now he's blamming gun makers.
There are dozens of gun laws on the books now, currently, that arent being followed now by liberal judges in liberal districts.
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;D
Dude looks like Bender
(https://i.postimg.cc/cH12LBPP/FTjk-Lo4-WUAEHR5j.jpg)
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/36/590x/The-Breakfast-Club-john-bender-judd-nelson-1483071.jpg?r=1630100859007)
HAHAHHAHA Awesome!!!
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Two hits. Me hitting you. You hitting the floor
You would hit that? Outed :-X
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There are no good options.
1. "Gun control." Won't work. There are way too many guns already in private hands. Besides, South and Central America have, on paper, strict gun control -- and yet they still have very high (world-leading) rates of gun crime and murder.
2. Increasing security measures at schools. Which will make schools even more prisonlike and will further degrade the psyches of students, which may paradoxically result in more shootings.
3. Increasing "mental health" measures. Which, if they take it seriously, means that you probably won't be able to legally own a gun if you post here. I mean, come on. The fact that Matt posts here so regularly means that everybody here is already on some sort of watchlist. lol.
These shootings are just a reflection of how rotten American society has become. They're just a symptom of a greater disease.
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I will gladly kill tbombz if it meant all these kids can live again
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Why did Tacobender do this to those innocent kids?
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There will be a renewed push by the left to creat new gun laws that only affect.......... people who obey the law.
Meanwhile, also by the left, people who commit crimes with guns will not be held accountable. See shitbird that had his charges dropped after shooting a cop.
This is an unspeakable horror. Something meaningful must be done. Some one needs to send send a strongly worded tweet.
Right.
Vermont is an open carry state. They average a whopping 10 homicides per year, most by firearms.
Last year there were about 1,000 firearm homicides in Chicago, which has about three times the population of VT. Chicago has strict gun laws but not much to show for it in terms of reducing gun violence.
You can’t stop the determined and deranged – too many examples of unhinged jackballs doing whatever, breaking many laws, so they can to produce carnage.
There was an armed safety officer who exchanged fire with one of the Columbine shooters, saving who knows how many lives. Schools should welcome armed safety officers; schools that don’t will remain soft targets.
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He identified as a murderer.
Next we’ll have the articles telling us how murderers are good for climate control.
Now we wait for the spin and the manifesto of this grandma killer.
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You would hit that? Outed :-X
Thought that was off too after the skirt picture lol
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Texas elementary school shooting: Live from Uvalde, Texas
Eighteen children and three adults are dead after an active shooter was reported at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, according to authorities.
The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District told reporters that the shooter was near the campus and asked people to stay away from the area.
"There is an active shooter at Robb Elementary," the school district said in a tweet. "Law enforcement is on site. Your cooperation is needed at this time by not visiting the campus. As soon as more information is gathered it will be shared."
The shooting prompted the school to go into lockdown. Students there were transported to St Willie Delon Civic Centre where they will be reunited with their parents.
The shooter has died, according to Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
President Biden told the nation it was time to “turn this pain into action” and change gun laws following the shooting massacre.
“Why are we willing to live with this carnage?” he said at the White House. “Where in God’s name is our backbone, to have the courage to deal with this and stand up to the [gun] lobbies?”
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There are no good options.
1. "Gun control." Won't work. There are way too many guns already in private hands. Besides, South and Central America have, on paper, strict gun control -- and yet they still have very high (world-leading) rates of gun crime and murder.
”Gun Control” only benefits the criminals
2. Increasing security measures at schools. Which will make schools even more prisonlike and will further degrade the psyches of students, which may paradoxically result in more shootings.
This is complete BS
3. Increasing "mental health" measures. Which, if they take it seriously, means that you probably won't be able to legally own a gun if you post here. I mean, come on. The fact that Matt posts here so regularly means that everybody here is already on some sort of watchlist. lol.
Nope, wrong. We have a second amendment. You don’t punish law abiding citizens because someone is a criminal and mentally fucked up. On its face it doesn’t make sense
These shootings are just a reflection of how rotten American society has become. They're just a symptom of a greater disease.
Somewhat agree. Because of the lefts policies and brainwashing it’s going get worse. This kid was already an LGBTQ, killed his grandmother and like all mass shooters a coward because he went for soft targets
You slow it (because you’re never going to stop it) is by making schools hard targets by arming teachers, faculty, and whoever else is willing to do active shooter training. There are also PLENTY of retired cops, military and special forces who would be happy to serve. Things like this should be mandatory in every school district in the country. These fucking schools were given over $100bil in Chinavirus relief and it was hardly used. It doesn’t cost that much for each district to put these plans into place.
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If only the shooter's name were Sal Zimmerman. Then the NY Times could pursue the "white Hispanic" angle again.
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Diversity is our strength
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Wonder what BLM will say about this
Being that Latin gang members are killing black gang members at a ratio of 7:1, I wonder too
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Why doesn't he look at the sentencing record of Ketanji Brown
LOL, do you really think that's why she was a nominee? 4 options, and 2 eliminated out of the gate.
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Isnt it an amazing coincidence that school shootings return when the democrats are in charge???
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2 teenagers shooting up innocents in the span of a week. This one really stings. These kids barely had a taste of life. Sad.
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LOL, do you really think that's why she was a nominee? 4 options, and 2 eliminated out of the gate.
No I don't think that is why she was nominated.
Let me try to explain the poi t i was trying to make:
Biden immediately blamed the gun lobby and gun manufacturers
there will be talk of gun control and more gun laws
There are already dozens if not hundreds of gun laws in the books that are irrelevant because of a broken legal system and progressive judges.
Brown was an example of the type of judge i was talkibg. Apropos Biden nominated her.
She's just an example. Look at that Doyle asshole in New York for a better example.
In summary instead of looking at the gun lobby and legislating new laws.... why dont we start enforcing the laws that are already in place by holding judges accountable who continuously ignore sentencing guidelines.
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open carry in all 50 states. as usual the criminally insane have figured a loophole which is children and the elderly. armed teachers would have neutralized him.
this clown thought this church was safe.
the only issue with open carry across the board is white women who are afraid of their shadows. A lot of dumb bitches are going to shoot the wrong people.
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open carry in all 50 states. as usual the criminally insane have figured a loophole which is children and the elderly. armed teachers would have neutralized him.
this clown thought this church was safe.
the only issue with open carry across the board is white women who are afraid of their shadows. A lot of dumb bitches are going to shoot the wrong people.
I would never carry in even in an open carry state.
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God, just horrible, depressing stuff to wake up to and read about this morning. I feel homicidally protective of my young nephews and reading of this stuff just knocks the life out of me. I remember being a child and listening to the car radio with my mum when the Dunblane shooting happened over here in the UK.
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2 teenagers shooting up innocents in the span of a week. This one really stings. These kids barely had a taste of life. Sad.
The media needs to quit posting the shooter's name, manifestos, videos, demands, etc. This seems to cause clusters of shootings because these whackballs want notoriety.
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You slow it (because you’re never going to stop it) is by making schools hard targets by arming teachers, faculty, and whoever else is willing to do active shooter training. There are also PLENTY of retired cops, military and special forces who would be happy to serve. Things like this should be mandatory in every school district in the country. These fucking schools were given over $100bil in Chinavirus relief and it was hardly used. It doesn’t cost that much for each district to put these plans into place.
The police were in a gun fight with him prior to him entering the school. He was wearing body armor. Arming teachers would not have prevented this.
Also, the tranny part of the story is fake, started on 4chan. Those pics are of someone who does not live in Texas and is still very much alive.
And the stories about him being an illegal alien is also fake, as he was born in North Dakota.
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1529307752471969797
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God, just horrible, depressing stuff to wake up to and read about this morning. I feel homicidally protective of my young nephews and reading of this stuff just knocks the life out of me. I remember being a child and listening to the car radio with my mum when the Dunblane shooting happened over here in the UK.
Agreed. Tonight on my way to work my daughter was taking a nap. I kissed her on her head before I left. I walked out of her room with two eyeballs filled with tears. Part of it was how grateful and thankful I am that it hasn't hit my inner circle yet. The other part was how the parents in Texas won't have this luxury ever again. Fucking senseless. Infuriating. Depressing. Just should not be a part of our life and or culture in this country.
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You slow it (because you’re never going to stop it) is by making schools hard targets by arming teachers, faculty, and whoever else is willing to do active shooter training. There are also PLENTY of retired cops, military and special forces who would be happy to serve. Things like this should be mandatory in every school district in the country. These fucking schools were given over $100bil in Chinavirus relief and it was hardly used. It doesn’t cost that much for each district to put these plans into place.
American schools are going to become even more like prisons, with high walls, secure gates, and "papers please" type regulations. And then you'll be shocked when more kids grow up to be shooters and lunatics. Schools are already hardly distinguishable from prisons.
And what do you think that people mean when they say "increasing mental health screening?" Dude, this shooter apparently had no criminal history at all, and no obvious or outward mental health issues. What they'll want to do -- and indeed the only way it would work -- is dig in to your online history via your ISP, and want to find out if you've ever posted on /pol/ or in a Matt thread on GetBig. ;D
If you're a normie with a facebook account, cool. If you're a weirdo with 10,000 posts on GetBig, well... "Denied for mental health reasons."
You in particular should be VERY skeptical of "mental health" initiatives.
As for arming every adult in schools: I agree that it's probably the best option.
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American schools are going to become even more like prisons, with high walls, secure gates, and "papers please" type regulations. And then you'll be shocked when more kids grow up to be shooters and lunatics. Schools are already hardly distinguishable from prisons.
And what do you think that people mean when they say "increasing mental health screening?" Dude, this shooter apparently had no criminal history at all, and no obvious or outward mental health issues. What they'll want to do -- and indeed the only way it would work -- is dig in to your online history via your ISP, and want to find out if you've ever posted on /pol/ or in a Matt thread on GetBig. ;D
If you're a normie with a facebook account, cool. If you're a weirdo with 10,000 posts on GetBig, well... "Denied for mental health reasons."
You in particular should be VERY skeptical of "mental health" initiatives.
As for arming every adult in schools: I agree that it's probably the best option.
SHIT!!! I've got 19000 posts on Getbig.
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The police were in a gun fight with him prior to him entering the school. He was wearing body armor. Arming teachers would not have prevented this.
Headshots tend to come from behind. If the trained teacher was going to split his wig it would have happened from an area he walked past.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/3rq92NjV/merr.gif)
True or False?
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhCWMJrW/FTjj-ZXJWYAAKAsj.jpg)
Same guy?
(https://i.postimg.cc/cH12LBPP/FTjk-Lo4-WUAEHR5j.jpg)
NYC subway....Meanwhile the media is playing up today's victim of this guy(below)as LGTB...
The media, mayorkas, garland, blinken..... have narratives that they want reality to fit...
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4fpTC79/FTjdoh-JXEAIIz8-D.jpg)
that photo in the hall way is clearly photoshopped as he is about half the size of the door behind him when perspective dictates he should be bigger as he is closer; either that or he is a 2 foot midget
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Arming teachers is like putting a plaster on an arterial bleed.
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Arming teachers is like putting a plaster on an arterial bleed.
Most teachers are Leftists and would refuse. Better to just hire security.
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The police were in a gun fight with him prior to him entering the school. He was wearing body armor. Arming teachers would not have prevented this.
Also, the tranny part of the story is fake, started on 4chan. Those pics are of someone who does not live in Texas and is still very much alive.
And the stories about him being an illegal alien is also fake, as he was born in North Dakota.
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1529307752471969797
Oh shut the fuck up Tim. You degenerate liberals fucked this countries kids up. You weirdos can't even agree to not talk about gender and sexual orientation with 1st graders. Go get fucked you creep.
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Agreed. Tonight on my way to work my daughter was taking a nap. I kissed her on her head before I left. I walked out of her room with two eyeballs filled with tears. Part of it was how grateful and thankful I am that it hasn't hit my inner circle yet. The other part was how the parents in Texas won't have this luxury ever again. Fucking senseless. Infuriating. Depressing. Just should not be a part of our life and or culture in this country.
It sucks, man. Be well. At least reading poor Tim Fogarty getting fucking beasted on here as usual is making me laugh.
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American schools are going to become even more like prisons, with high walls, secure gates, and "papers please" type regulations. And then you'll be shocked when more kids grow up to be shooters and lunatics. Schools are already hardly distinguishable from prisons.
And what do you think that people mean when they say "increasing mental health screening?" Dude, this shooter apparently had no criminal history at all, and no obvious or outward mental health issues. What they'll want to do -- and indeed the only way it would work -- is dig in to your online history via your ISP, and want to find out if you've ever posted on /pol/ or in a Matt thread on GetBig. ;D
If you're a normie with a facebook account, cool. If you're a weirdo with 10,000 posts on GetBig, well... "Denied for mental health reasons."
You in particular should be VERY skeptical of "mental health" initiatives.
As for arming every adult in schools: I agree that it's probably the best option.
The best option is home schooling.
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These kinds of things never used to happen, what’s changed? Lack of a nuclear family, demographic changes, liberal ideology...
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There should be a comparable amount of armed officers at every school just like there is at every bank in Florida. We guard our money with guns our children are infinitely more valuable.
If two armed police were able to confront him outside, they should either be mortally wounded, dead, or they should resign in disgrace. Body armor would not protect you from a point blank shot in the face which is what those two officers should have charged him to attempt. Likely they stayed far away behind cover. BTW they also wear body armor.
Since I work closely with LEO, I can attest most school officers are the weakest, laziest, oldest, and least competent officers on the force. The assignments are generally considered “cake” and are sought out by the most cowardly people on the job. This needs to change. I can also attest these school officers are disproportionately WOMEN. We had the same shit happen here with our own “Broward Coward” officer at Parkland.
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Just to add, our school board takes about HALF our property taxes. They have a budget larger than our entire county government and all our cities. One armed cop protects 6 tellers in a bank there should be 5-10 officers at every school during school hours, standing right out front with cars running and lights on just as they do all day at road construction sites.
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There should be a comparable amount of armed officers at every school just like there is at every bank in Florida. We guard our money with guns our children are infinitely more valuable.
If two armed police were able to confront him outside, they should either be mortally wounded, dead, or they should resign in disgrace. Body armor would not protect you from a point blank shot in the face which is what those two officers should have charged him to attempt. Likely they stayed far away behind cover. BTW they also wear body armor.
Since I work closely with LEO, I can attest most school officers are the weakest, laziest, oldest, and least competent officers on the force. The assignments are generally considered “cake” and are sought out by the most cowardly people on the job. This needs to change. I can also attest these school officers are disproportionately WOMEN. We had the same shit happen here with our own “Broward Coward” officer at Parkland.
Brutal and true. I know a female Broward sheriff and she was “protecting” schools a couple of years ago
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There should be a comparable amount of armed officers at every school just like there is at every bank in Florida. We guard our money with guns our children are infinitely more valuable.
If two armed police were able to confront him outside, they should either be mortally wounded, dead, or they should resign in disgrace. Body armor would not protect you from a point blank shot in the face which is what those two officers should have charged him to attempt. Likely they stayed far away behind cover. BTW they also wear body armor.
Since I work closely with LEO, I can attest most school officers are the weakest, laziest, oldest, and least competent officers on the force. The assignments are generally considered “cake” and are sought out by the most cowardly people on the job. This needs to change. I can also attest these school officers are disproportionately WOMEN. We had the same shit happen here with our own “Broward Coward” officer at Parkland.
Why do you think that these high-school aged kids like to shoot up schools?
It's because the schools are the sickness. These schools breed despair, nihilism, and hatred. They already look very much like prisons. And you want to make them much worse?
Yeah, let's have high walls, topped with barbed wire, with armed and armored ex-SOF guards behind bullet-proof glass at every entrance. ::)
Just don't be surprised when the problem gets a lot worse.
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These kinds of things never used to happen, what’s changed? Lack of a nuclear family, demographic changes, liberal ideology...
All of the above, and more...
Libturds promote mental-illness like its "normal".
Men can get pregnant, women can have a caulk, there are no genders, fukking animals is A-OK, sniffing kids is acceptable, hate white-folks, violent criminals are A-OK, etc.
Then, someone with that mental illness commits a horrific crime, but its not there fault, its all Pubtards fault.
Libtards have erased law and order, this is the new norm...
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Why do you think that these high-school aged kids like to shoot up schools?
It's because the schools are the sickness. These schools breed despair, nihilism, and hatred. They already look very much like prisons. And you want to make them much worse?
Yeah, let's have high walls, topped with barbed wire, with armed and armored ex-SOF guards behind bullet-proof glass at every entrance. ::)
Just don't be surprised when the problem gets a lot worse.
Don’t be an idiot. Do road construction sites look like war zones? Did I suggest anywhere to build any wall or fence? No. Park 5 to 10 police cruisers in front of the school officers standing in plain sight armed would be an actual protective force without any of the shit you fear and mentioned.
Democrats love to say what you just parroted above. They act like it won’t work just to perpetuate the problem and use the continuing massacres to enact useless laws that only increase their power. Meanwhile solutions that would actually work like the one I suggested get marginalized. Weak minds like yours are far too common and Dems/RINOs take advantage of you. Smarten up.
Take my suggestion and posthumously put it at every school shooting and said shooting does not occur successfully. Period.
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Hey, gun control works so well in Chicago, right??? ::) ::) ::)
May to Date
Shot & Killed: 42
Shot & Wounded: 223
Total Shot: 265
Total Homicides: 44
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That Tranny man-porker does appear to be a different person possibly.
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Don’t be an idiot. Do road construction sites look like war zones? Did I suggest anywhere to build any wall or fence? No. Park 5 to 10 police cruisers in front of the school officers standing in plain sight armed would be an actual protective force without any of the shit you fear and mentioned.
A lot of towns hardly have 5-10 police cruisers in their entire force. You want all of that parked in front of each school?
The population of Uvalde is around 16,000. The police department has a grand total of 28 cops. What you're suggesting just isn't practical, for what should be obvious reasons. Think about it for a second.
Now you'll say, "uhh, j-just hire twice as many cops, problem solved!" lol. Enjoy the highest property tax rates in the world. In fact, I think that the USA already has some of the highest property tax rates in the world. At this point, taxes are already so high that even if you "own" your home, you're just renting it from the government.
Gun control obviously won't work. But turning schools into police barracks or panopticon prisons is equally retarded.
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monkeypox will get rid of them
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The police were in a gun fight with him prior to him entering the school. He was wearing body armor. Arming teachers would not have prevented this.
Also, the tranny part of the story is fake, started on 4chan. Those pics are of someone who does not live in Texas and is still very much alive.
And the stories about him being an illegal alien is also fake, as he was born in North Dakota.
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1529307752471969797
He entered the school with no one on the inside. I want to know what body armor he was supposedly using. A plate carry vest? Head gear? What? There’s always a shot to be taken body armor or not. It was tactical border patrol that eventually took him out. And yes, armed, trained staff could have medicated the killings. This is just flat out common sense.
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The authorities knew about him…nothing was done
Maybe because for being a minority, and hence a victim?
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American schools are going to become even more like prisons, with high walls, secure gates, and "papers please" type regulations. And then you'll be shocked when more kids grow up to be shooters and lunatics. Schools are already hardly distinguishable from prisons.
And what do you think that people mean when they say "increasing mental health screening?" Dude, this shooter apparently had no criminal history at all, and no obvious or outward mental health issues. What they'll want to do -- and indeed the only way it would work -- is dig in to your online history via your ISP, and want to find out if you've ever posted on /pol/ or in a Matt thread on GetBig. ;D
If you're a normie with a facebook account, cool. If you're a weirdo with 10,000 posts on GetBig, well... "Denied for mental health reasons."
You in particular should be VERY skeptical of "mental health" initiatives.
As for arming every adult in schools: I agree that it's probably the best option.
We had less restrictions with firearms when I was growing up and things like this rarely happened. It’s when you start putting on restrictions is when shit hits the fan. Like here, Texas has strict rules regarding firearms around school campuses (gun free zones 🙄) and no firearms within a 1000 ft of school property.
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Maybe because for being a minority, and hence a victim?
Bingo
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A lot of towns hardly have 5-10 police cruisers in their entire force. You want all of that parked in front of each school?
The population of Uvalde is around 16,000. The police department has a grand total of 28 cops. What you're suggesting just isn't practical, for what should be obvious reasons. Think about it for a second.
Now you'll say, "uhh, j-just hire twice as many cops, problem solved!" lol. Enjoy the highest property tax rates in the world. In fact, I think that the USA already has some of the highest property tax rates in the world. At this point, taxes are already so high that even if you "own" your home, you're just renting it from the government.
Gun control obviously won't work. But turning schools into police barracks or panopticon prisons is equally retarded.
Schools can pay for police. Cost of doing business. When education went the way of computers no one said “who’s gonna pay for all these laptops, desktops, and tablets?” did they? No just expanded the budget and paid for it. Most school boards have budgets rivaling their entire county government including police and fire services. They can do it without question they waste more money every year than the uniformed officers would cost.
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We had less restrictions with firearms when I was growing up and things like this rarely happened. It’s when you start putting on restrictions is when shit hits the fan. Like here, Texas has strict rules regarding firearms around school campuses (gun free zones 🙄) and no firearms within a 1000 ft of school property.
Truth. We actually cleaned my agriculture teachers hunting rifles in class when I was in high school.
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We had less restrictions with firearms when I was growing up and things like this rarely happened. It’s when you start putting on restrictions is when shit hits the fan. Like here, Texas has strict rules regarding firearms around school campuses (gun free zones 🙄) and no firearms within a 1000 ft of school property.
Plus, times are so much different than when we were kids. We went outside, played sports, lifted in neighbors' garages and basements, didnt really have video games, werent led around by a phone telling us how to act, etc.
If we acted up, we got our ass beat by our Dads, etc. Kids today are mentally damaged.
Kids today cry when their phone breaks down. Very weak mentally, physically, spiritually..
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Just about all public schools today have their own security force.
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He entered the school with no one on the inside. I want to know what body armor he was supposedly using. A plate carry vest? Head gear? What? There’s always a shot to be taken body armor or not. It was tactical border patrol that eventually took him out. And yes, armed, trained staff could have medicated the killings. This is just flat out common sense.
“The suspect did crash near a ditch nearby the school," Estrada said. "That’s where he exited his vehicle with what I believe was a rifle and that’s when he attempted to enter the school where he was engaged by law enforcement. Unfortunately, he was able to enter the premises and then from there that’s when he entered several classrooms and started shooting his firearm.”
Estrada went on to say the gunman was seen with a "long rifle and backpack." The gunman was also wearing body armor, Estrada said.
the guy was engaged by police outside of the school and took two shots and it didnt stop him. your proposed solution literally took place and failed.
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Schools can pay for police. Cost of doing business. When education went the way of computers no one said “who’s gonna pay for all these laptops, desktops, and tablets?” did they? No just expanded the budget and paid for it. Most school boards have budgets rivaling their entire county government including police and fire services. They can do it without question they waste more money every year than the uniformed officers would cost.
LOL. Totally retarded.
One cop's annual salary covers computers and tablets for an entire small town school, easy. (Especially considering that schools usually buy chromebooks and other cheap computers at bulk discount rates.) And that's to say nothing of pensions, the fact that you'd need a lot more than one guard, the fact that computers don't necessarily need to be replaced every year, etc.
Yeah, bro, let's just post 10 cops at every school. Let's triple the size of most small town police departments. What could go wrong?
America has a cultural/spiritual problem that won't be solved with "more security." Making schools more prisonlike is 99.99% likely to make the problem much worse, actually.
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America has a cultural/spiritual problem that won't be solved with "more security." Making schools more prisonlike is 99.99% likely to make the problem much worse, actually.
agree 100% w your posts ITT. school shootings are a symptom of a sick society with deeper issues, superficial interventions like gun control or armed security at schools are just bandaids concealing the wound
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LOL. Totally retarded.
One cop's annual salary covers computers and tablets for an entire small town school, easy. (Especially considering that schools usually buy chromebooks and other cheap computers at bulk discount rates.) And that's to say nothing of pensions, the fact that you'd need a lot more than one guard, the fact that computers don't necessarily need to be replaced every year, etc.
Yeah, bro, let's just post 10 cops at every school. Let's triple the size of most small town police departments. What could go wrong?
America has a cultural/spiritual problem that won't be solved with "more security." Making schools more prisonlike is 99.99% likely to make the problem much worse, actually.
You sir, are obviously ignorant. I work for the government. I am very aware of what the budgets are and how they are spent.
For instance, let’s take Duval county in Florida. Not the biggest but maybe top 10 in size in the state. They have an annual budget of 1.7 BILLION DOLLARS. Never mind the total budget for computers, they fucking OVERSPENT 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS on SOFTWARE alone. The total SOFTWARE budget was well north of 30 Million dollars. Not hardware, software.
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/education/2017/10/10/duval-school-budget-woes-178-million/15776063007/
In the same city it costs about 150k per uniformed officer. You could put 6 officers at every school for generously figuring $150 million.
That is under 9% of the current budget. Now you tell me are the kids worth about $1000 per student per year to have security?
So instead of posting comments about shit you have ZERO clue about you should try educating yourself.
People who think we don’t need more security at schools are fools. They could ban every gun from every law buying citizen in this nation, and these killings would continue. You cannot stop someone who is willing to die from attempting foolhardy shit like this.
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Just to compare, we spend almost 3 BILLION dollars a year to protect 11 people. 6 living Presidents and 5 living VPs. I think our kids are worth more than those old fucks.
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Schools can pay for police. Cost of doing business. When education went the way of computers no one said “who’s gonna pay for all these laptops, desktops, and tablets?” did they? No just expanded the budget and paid for it. Most school boards have budgets rivaling their entire county government including police and fire services. They can do it without question they waste more money every year than the uniformed officers would cost.
Hundreds of school districts throughout the country removed SROs and canceled their law enforcement contracts during all the defund the police bullshit.
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the guy was engaged by police outside of the school and took two shots and it didnt stop him. your proposed solution literally took place and failed.
If he was engaged outside of the school, how did a Border Patrol agent end up killing him? Did the cop that engaged him first just back off and hide?
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https://publicintegrity.org/education/criminalizing-kids/milwaukee-school-district-defunded-police-but-it-keeps-calling-them-back-in/
The Milwaukee Public Schools canceled its contract with the city police department in June 2020, but the policy change has not stopped staff from summoning officers to schools. In the first two months of the current school year, administrators at Milwaukee high schools called police more than 200 times
Q: Should the Milwaukee Public Schools reconsider its decision to remove school resource officers from campuses?
Susej Paura-Martinez:
Instead of spending money on police officers, we should hire more tutors, anger management therapists, people that will help kids not be angry. Police officers make the kids angry. So I feel we should hire more people that will help us, not police officers.
Susej Paura-Martinez:
Police bring fear into the children, the Black children in our school buildings. There should be more tutors, not police officers. I feel we shouldn’t invest our money, millions of dollars into police officers when they’re not even going to do [anything] but make it worse.
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Police bring fear into the children, the Black children in our school buildings. There should be more tutors, not police officers. I feel we shouldn’t invest our money, millions of dollars into police officers when they’re not even going to do [anything] but make it worse.
Black kids are programmed that Cops are the enemies, thx to Libturd media and current admin.
Most are killed by cops while commiting violent crimes. Of course there have been some innocents affected (for every race).
Libz sure are brain-dead...
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Black kids are programmed that Cops are the enemies, thx to Libturd media and current admin.
Most are killed by cops while commiting violent crimes. Of course there have been some innocents affected (for every race).
Libz sure are brain-dead...
Most kids avoid being shot by cops by simply behaving themselves...
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Black kids are programmed that Cops are the enemies, thx to Libturd media and current admin.
Most are killed by cops while commiting violent crimes. Of course there have been some innocents affected (for every race).
Libz sure are brain-dead...
I do think that American police has a very quick finger on the trigger (Compared to most european countries). But maybe that's the price to pay for a multicultural/ethnic society.
Law/discipline must be enforced by force.
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Schools Taxpayers can pay for police. Cost of doing business. When education went the way of computers no one said “who’s gonna pay for all these laptops, desktops, and tablets?” did they? No just expanded the budget and paid for it. Most school boards have budgets rivaling their entire county government including police and fire services. They can do it without question they waste more money every year than the uniformed officers would cost.
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That Tranny man-porker does appear to be a different person possibly.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIF.CValChRQvYqfhxErGtyKww?w=256&h=192&c=7&r=0&o=5&pid=1.7)
Looks similar to the Night Stalker from the 1980's.
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These kinds of things never used to happen, what’s changed? Lack of a nuclear family, demographic changes, liberal ideology...
All of the above and policy
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the guy was engaged by police outside of the school and took two shots and it didnt stop him. your proposed solution literally took place and failed.
Where exactly in my statement was I wrong? Also, it’s being reported that there was a school resource officer that was in a gun fight with the shooter. The officer forced the shooter to drop his backpack full of ammo which gave him time for a tactical team to get there.
He shot kids locked in a class room.
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You sir, are obviously ignorant. I work for the government. I am very aware of what the budgets are and how they are spent.
For instance, let’s take Duval county in Florida. Not the biggest but maybe top 10 in size in the state. They have an annual budget of 1.7 BILLION DOLLARS. Never mind the total budget for computers, they fucking OVERSPENT 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS on SOFTWARE alone. The total SOFTWARE budget was well north of 30 Million dollars. Not hardware, software.
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/education/2017/10/10/duval-school-budget-woes-178-million/15776063007/
In the same city it costs about 150k per uniformed officer. You could put 6 officers at every school for generously figuring $150 million.
That is under 9% of the current budget. Now you tell me are the kids worth about $1000 per student per year to have security?
So instead of posting comments about shit you have ZERO clue about you should try educating yourself.
Holy shit this is retarded.
"Let's take Duval county in Florida"
Cherry pick much?
Duval county population: 1,000,000.
Now let's compare with Uvalde county. Population: 27,000.
Duval county is one of the largest counties in the United States. It's in the top 50. (Of 3006 in total.) Most of the nation's rural areas are nothing like it.
Duval County Public Schools is the 20th largest school district in the nation. Of course they have large budgets.
In Uvalde, however, the total annual budget is roughly as large as Duval county's software budget. It's about 30-40M.
There are 10 schools in Uvalde. Six officers at each (which is a completely dystopian notion) would cost the district another $30M at just $50,000 per year, per officer.
So you're basically asking them to double their entire operating budget, for something that might not work, and is actually very likely to make things worse. Great policy suggestion, bro.
Besides, this sort of thing would ultimately come out of your property taxes, which are already at an insanely high level.
Whatever the right solution is, it's certainly not "more armed guards in schools."
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Leftist stupidity from Paulina Porizkov:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd---4LOn2J/
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These kinds of things never used to happen, what’s changed? Lack of a nuclear family, demographic changes, liberal ideology...
The existence of social media.. FB, Instagram, etc
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The existence of social media.. FB, Instagram, etc
Columbine?
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Holy shit this is retarded.
"Let's take Duval county in Florida"
Cherry pick much?
Duval county population: 1,000,000.
Now let's compare with Uvalde county. Population: 27,000.
Duval county is one of the largest counties in the United States. It's in the top 50. (Of 3006 in total.) Most of the nation's rural areas are nothing like it.
Duval County Public Schools is the 20th largest school district in the nation. Of course they have large budgets.
In Uvalde, however, the total annual budget is roughly as large as Duval county's software budget. It's about 30-40M.
There are 10 schools in Uvalde. Six officers at each (which is a completely dystopian notion) would cost the district another $30M at just $50,000 per year, per officer.
So you're basically asking them to double their entire operating budget, for something that might not work, and is actually very likely to make things worse. Great policy suggestion, bro.
Besides, this sort of thing would ultimately come out of your property taxes, which are already at an insanely high level.
Whatever the right solution is, it's certainly not "more armed guards in schools."
Actually dipshit 60 officers at 50k is $3 million, or about 10% of their budget. Exactly the same percentage as the county I used dumbass. They wouldn’t even be using them all year, about 180 days a year the community would have those officers for a ton of other purposes outside of their school tasks.
Your school should’ve spent more money on mathematics.
Ironat your correction is exactly right, it would be the taxpayers paying for this. I completely understand but this is one expense I would fully support, Unlike the millions of dollars my local government wastes on bullshit. But I don’t disagree with you we would have to pay for this. I just feel it’s worth it and my son has already graduated so I would be paying for everyone else without complaint.
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You sir, are obviously ignorant. I work for the government. I am very aware of what the budgets are and how they are spent.
Are you one of those government employees sucking the tit of the tax payers?
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Actually dipshit 60 officers at 50k is $3 million, or about 10% of their budget. Exactly the same percentage as the county I used dumbass.
Your school should’ve spent more money on mathematics.
USA needs smaller government. Big, unaccountable government is why we have this:
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Are you one of those government employees sucking the tit of the tax payers?
I sure am, I risk my life and I have given three discs, several tendons and about a 200% increase in cancer risk in the service of my community. My salary when I started out was about $32,000 a year, I make more than that now but I’ve been doing it for over 20 years.
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Columbine?
To be fair, I don't know if this is true but...
I think he meant that they didn't happen in the 1950's / 1960's.
They seem to be happening more, but they don't happen often anyway.
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Unfortunately this stuff has been happening since the dawn of man. We just have a larger population and we no longer lock up the crazies they did up until the 1970s.
This is still the deadliest school massacre, happened in 1927. No guns were used.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1927-bombing-remains-americas-deadliest-school-massacre-180963355/
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Actually dipshit 60 officers at 50k is $3 million, or about 10% of their budget. Exactly the same percentage as the county I used dumbass. They wouldn’t even be using them all year, about 180 days a year the community would have those officers for a ton of other purposes outside of their school tasks.
Sounds wonderful. So a small town with 28 cops becomes a small town with 88 cops. What could possibly go wrong?
You wouldn't even be preventing school shootings. (You'd arguably be causing more, and hastening the degradation and deracination of American society.) You would get more speeding tickets, though. And you'd be paying for all of those extra salaries.
Real dog-brained proposal.
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To be fair, I don't know if this is true but...
I think he meant that they didn't happen in the 1950's / 1960's.
They seem to be happening more, but they don't happen often anyway.
It does seem to be a modern phenomenon. My guess is the emphasis on nihilism and atheism hasn't helped matters.
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I do think that American police has a very quick finger on the trigger (Compared to most european countries). But maybe that's the price to pay for a multicultural/ethnic society.
Law/discipline must be enforced by force.
You’d be surprised how few times shots are fired by police. Most go through their entire careers never firing a shot.
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You’d be surprised how few times shots are fired by police. Most go through their entire careers never firing a shot.
Every time a cop fires his weapon doesn't he have to go on leave while a whole investigation is ongoing?
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Every time a cop fires his weapon doesn't he have to go on leave while a whole investigation is ongoing?
Yes, no matter how “righteous” the shot was.
Cops know that firing their weapon has a strong chance of messing up the rest of their lives so they’ll only do so if there’s no other recourse.
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It does seem to be a modern phenomenon. My guess is the emphasis on nihilism and atheism hasn't helped matters.
Breakdown of the family is big. He killed his grandmother but I’ve yet to hear about the whereabouts of his parents.
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Last story I read claims he didn't engage any officers outside of the school. After the dust settles we'll see what the story is. Also it would appear that grandma survived the gunshot to the face and called the cops on him. Granny is a tough old bag for sure.
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Sounds wonderful. So a small town with 28 cops becomes a small town with 88 cops. What could possibly go wrong?
You wouldn't even be preventing school shootings. (You'd arguably be causing more, and hastening the degradation and deracination of American society.) You would get more speeding tickets, though. And you'd be paying for all of those extra salaries.
Real dog-brained proposal.
When you figure it out, enlighten us on how to prevent school shootings. Over 20k gun laws on the books and not one helped. This is one of the only options and since school districts received over $100bil in Chinavirus relief, money isn’t the issue. Schools are our most vulnerable targets because they’re soft targets.
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That Tranny man-porker does appear to be a different person possibly.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIF.CValChRQvYqfhxErGtyKww?w=256&h=192&c=7&r=0&o=5&pid=1.7)
Is this him?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTomJORWUAA02Ac?format=jpg&name=large)
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People are cracking up left, right and centre.
Too many living too-stressful lives with too much horseshit from corrupt governments.
Too much forced-diversity that does nothing but weakens communities, destroys the comfort of traditions and isolates individuals.
World is fucked.
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Holy shit this is retarded.
"Let's take Duval county in Florida"
Cherry pick much?
Duval county population: 1,000,000.
Now let's compare with Uvalde county. Population: 27,000.
Duval county is one of the largest counties in the United States. It's in the top 50. (Of 3006 in total.) Most of the nation's rural areas are nothing like it.
Duval County Public Schools is the 20th largest school district in the nation. Of course they have large budgets.
In Uvalde, however, the total annual budget is roughly as large as Duval county's software budget. It's about 30-40M.
There are 10 schools in Uvalde. Six officers at each (which is a completely dystopian notion) would cost the district another $30M at just $50,000 per year, per officer.
So you're basically asking them to double their entire operating budget, for something that might not work, and is actually very likely to make things worse. Great policy suggestion, bro.
Besides, this sort of thing would ultimately come out of your property taxes, which are already at an insanely high level.
Whatever the right solution is, it's certainly not "more armed guards in schools."
Its worth pointing out that this is like winning the lottery: the chances of this ever happening again in Uvalde school district is virtually zero. The children are gone. Putting cops in there now is really moot. There is almost 100% certainty that Uvalde wont ever have another active shooter.
Schools with School Resource Officers aren't likely to have an active shooter because the cops be more of a deterrent than an interdiction. A shooter would likely pick an easier target than a school with officers already present.
By nature an active shooter requires a large number of defenseless targets.
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You’d be surprised how few times shots are fired by police. Most go through their entire careers never firing a shot.
Every time a cop fires his weapon doesn't he have to go on leave while a whole investigation is ongoing?
You are both correct.
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I heard his grandmother was still alive in critical condition earlier.....I have been wrong before though.
How could anyone kill those poor innocent kids is beyond me, one was only eight years old....fucking wingnut.
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When you figure it out, enlighten us on how to prevent school shootings. Over 20k gun laws on the books and not one helped. This is one of the only options and since school districts received over $100bil in Chinavirus relief, money isn’t the issue. Schools are our most vulnerable targets because they’re soft targets.
Theaters are also soft targets. As are nursing homes, concerts, nightclubs, and many other places where people congregate. (See, e.g., the Pulse nightclub shooting, the Las Vegas shooting, the Paris concert shooting, etc.)
So why does this keep happening at schools? Because, as I mentioned previously, schools are prisonlike and breed despair, nihilism, and hatred. Making schools more prisonlike by enhancing obvious security measures isn't going to solve the problem. It'll probably make it worse.
"Let's have every small town triple its number of cops" is sheer lunacy.
Gun control isn't the answer, either, for obvious reasons.
There might be a technical solution. A ring of sensors around the school, hooked up to a 24/7 AI that does facial recognition and can identify objects like long guns, which itself is linked to a drone swarm that can be activated at a moment's notice. The swarm does not know fear, would not cower at the sound of gunshots, and could be armed with lethal/non-lethal compliance measures. This solution might be invisible when not in use, and it would only respond to live threats -- it wouldn't give you fucking speeding tickets.
The tech is probably not ready yet, though. The sensors and AI components are solved problems, but nobody has figured out how to weaponize drone swarms. Well, plenty of incentive right now, I suppose.
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Every time a cop fires his weapon doesn't he have to go on leave while a whole investigation is ongoing?
Yes, but TV cops don't have to.
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Schools with School Resource Officers aren't likely to have an active shooter because the cops be more of a deterrent than an interdiction. A shooter would likely pick an easier target than a school with officers already present.
There was a deputy/SRO on duty at Parkland. Didn't deter shit. Pissed his pants and went off somewhere to hide.
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Theaters are also soft targets. As are nursing homes, concerts, nightclubs, and many other places where people congregate. (See, e.g., the Pulse nightclub shooting, the Las Vegas shooting, the Paris concert shooting, etc.)
So why does this keep happening at schools?
Because the kids are less likely to fight back. There would be a sense of superiority over smaller children by the shooter vs going into a theatre/concert/etc where there is likely to be far more adults that these people would feel inferior to.
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You slow it (because you’re never going to stop it) is by making schools hard targets by arming teachers, faculty, and whoever else is willing to do active shooter training. There are also PLENTY of retired cops, military and special forces who would be happy to serve. Things like this should be mandatory in every school district in the country. These fucking schools were given over $100bil in Chinavirus relief and it was hardly used. It doesn’t cost that much for each district to put these plans into place.
Man, I own many guns and am all for self defense, but teachers shouldn’t have to arm themselves. The real problem is mentally ill people killing people with guns. We have to address that problem, although we won’t. Sadly, because we won’t address mental illness properly, I see the country having to surrender their guns before pushing back on the issues that cause these mass killings.
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although this is comedy, posted 16 years ago, everything he says is on point and sadly, still 100% relevant today.
until the gun culture of the USA changes this will keep happening over and over as it has been doing for years now mainly since Columbine but obviously before that too
If Sandy Hook didn't do anything to change the gun culture in the states nothing will.
and Ironically this was an an elementary school also. a lot of erie comparison between Sandy Hook and this.
so sad :'(
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There was a deputy/SRO on duty at Parkland. Didn't deter shit. Pissed his pants and went off somewhere to hide.
Even worse, 7 deputies arrived and remained outside taking no immediate action.
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Columbine?
And Virginia Tech in 2007. Slaughtered 32 and shot another 17 using two semiauto handguns and 10-round magazines. Both FB and Twitter were just a year old.
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Man, I own many guns and am all for self defense, but teachers shouldn’t have to arm themselves. The real problem is mentally ill people killing people with guns. We have to address that problem, although we won’t. Sadly, because we won’t address mental illness properly, I see the country having to surrender their guns before pushing back on the issues that cause these mass killings.
No, they shouldn't but this is what it's coming down too. The safe place for kids SHOULD be schools and the protectors during that time they're in school should be the teachers and administration. Sadly, those times are gone or at the very least, going.
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There was a deputy/SRO on duty at Parkland. Didn't deter shit. Pissed his pants and went off somewhere to hide.
You're missing my point. Its unlikely the parkland shooter knew there was an officer present. Visible police are a deterent.
Second the officers actions were highly mischaracterized by the media.
The response to an active shooter has undergone several changes over the years. At one time the prevailing training recommended officers wait to form a "pod" of at least three and ideally 5 officers before going alone to neutralize a threat.
After numerous studies showed that most activs shooters take their own lives when confronted by law enforcement the philosophy changed. Also when shooters did engage with police the police had a high su cess rate. So the new recommendation was first officer to arrive should challenge the threat immediately.
Go figure that no media ever webt out of their way to mention this. At the time he was following what had been widely accepted trai ing on the subject.
Easy to call someone a coward from the cheap seats bitch. When was the last time you ran directly at someone shooting an automatic weapon?
In any event your arguments fucking suck.
99:% of active shooters will choose to avoid conflict with police in favor of a more target rich environment and over 60% take their own lives rather than engage with law enforcement.
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No, they shouldn't but this is what it's coming down too. The safe place for kids SHOULD be schools and the protectors during that time they're in school should be the teachers and administration. Sadly, those times are gone or at the very least, going.
We need to change how we treat mental health in this country, not arm teachers or take away guns from law abiding citizens. This kid, the news say “had no history of mental illness”. What the fuck is that about? The kid was a tranny, and with cancel culture nobody wants to state the obvious. The kid is mentally fucked up to have those thoughts in his head. Probably got bullied bad too.
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Theaters are also soft targets. As are nursing homes, concerts, nightclubs, and many other places where people congregate. (See, e.g., the Pulse nightclub shooting, the Las Vegas shooting, the Paris concert shooting, etc.)
Not nearly as soft as schools, especially elementary schools, Nursing Homes, Night Clubs all have security in place, it comes down to training. The Vegas shooting, for whatever reason is still unsolved and the shooter used a sniper rifle with a high power scope from a high shooting point. You act like all shootings can be avoided, they can't but shootings in schools can be mitigated
So why does this keep happening at schools? Because, as I mentioned previously, schools are prisonlike and breed despair, nihilism, and hatred. Making schools more prisonlike by enhancing obvious security measures isn't going to solve the problem. It'll probably make it worse.
It happens in schools because, again, they are soft targets, "gun free zones" where the shooter knows firearms are not allowed with the exception of security if there is any. They are cowards
"Let's have every small town triple its number of cops" is sheer lunacy.
Gun control isn't the answer, either, for obvious reasons.
There might be a technical solution. A ring of sensors around the school, hooked up to a 24/7 AI that does facial recognition and can identify objects like long guns, which itself is linked to a drone swarm that can be activated at a moment's notice. The swarm does not know fear, would not cower at the sound of gunshots, and could be armed with lethal/non-lethal compliance measures. This solution might be invisible when not in use, and it would only respond to live threats -- it wouldn't give you fucking speeding tickets.
That won't stop anyone. If they want to get in they will find away. If anything it's added security and I'm not against it, but if the shooter gets in, they ONLY alternative before the cops, swat or tactical team gets there is too arm certain individuals within the school. PERIOD
The tech is probably not ready yet, though. The sensors and AI components are solved problems, but nobody has figured out how to weaponize drone swarms. Well, plenty of incentive right now, I suppose.
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We need to change how we treat mental health in this country, not arm teachers or take away guns from law abiding citizens. This kid, the news say “had no history of mental illness”. What the fuck is that about? The kid was a tranny, and with cancel culture nobody wants to state the obvious. The kid is mentally fucked up to have those thoughts in his head. Probably got bullied bad too.
This.
Fat acceptance is another huge problem in our society. It just kills us slower.
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You're missing my point. Its unlikely the parkland shooter knew there was an officer present. Visible police are a deterent.
Second the officers actions were highly mischaracterized by the media.
99:% of active shooters will choose to avoid conflict with police in favor of a more target rich environment and over 60% take their own lives rather than engage with law enforcement.
Source: My ass.
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We need to change how we treat mental health in this country, not arm teachers or take away guns from law abiding citizens. This kid, the news say “had no history of mental illness”. What the fuck is that about? The kid was a tranny, and with cancel culture nobody wants to state the obvious. The kid is mentally fucked up to have those thoughts in his head. Probably got bullied bad too.
This will probably be the dirty little secret. Hispanics along with blacks are the most homophobic groups.
He probably had enough being called “Maricon.”
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We need to change how we treat mental health in this country, not arm teachers or take away guns from law abiding citizens. This kid, the news say “had no history of mental illness”. What the fuck is that about? The kid was a tranny, and with cancel culture nobody wants to state the obvious. The kid is mentally fucked up to have those thoughts in his head. Probably got bullied bad too.
Problem is most shooters have been reported BEFORE anything happens. They get interviewed, they get evaluated, deemed having mental issues. The authorities already know about these people but nothing gets done until it's too late.
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You're missing my point. Its unlikely the parkland shooter knew there was an officer present. Visible police are a deterent.
Second the officers actions were highly mischaracterized by the media.
The response to an active shooter has undergone several changes over the years. At one time the prevailing training recommended officers wait to form a "pod" of at least three and ideally 5 officers before going alone to neutralize a threat.
After numerous studies showed that most activs shooters take their own lives when confronted by law enforcement the philosophy changed. Also when shooters did engage with police the police had a high su cess rate. So the new recommendation was first officer to arrive should challenge the threat immediately.
Go figure that no media ever webt out of their way to mention this. At the time he was following what had been widely accepted trai ing on the subject.
Easy to call someone a coward from the cheap seats bitch. When was the last time you ran directly at someone shooting an automatic weapon?
In any event your arguments fucking suck.
99:% of active shooters will choose to avoid conflict with police in favor of a more target rich environment and over 60% take their own lives rather than engage with law enforcement.
You are correct about most shooters either give up or kill themselves when confronted by an armed police officer. The coward comment though- I will say if the shoe fits wear it. I have trained in active shooter drills. Most cops I trained with I have no doubt would put their lives on the line and absolutely charge an armed shooter at a school without hesitation. That’s what they are paid for. The 343 firefighters that died in the trade center mostly KNEW they were likely going to die. They did not hesitate. Comes with the territory and I have the high ground in this statement as I have personally put my life at risk when confronted with doing something that might save a life.
The only way to stop school shootings is to place multiple armed officers standing outside the school all 180 days of the school year. I don’t care how low-percentage the probability is- you have a similar probability of your house catching fire but millions are spent in every community to have staffed fire apparatus 24/7 to protect inanimate structures. That’s right-you should know fire departments were started to protect insurance companies from paying for buildings. Not to protect your life.
Since I happen to know plenty of school teachers I can tell you pretty much every one agrees with me and would WELCOME the police presence outside.
The village idiot claiming small towns would have to double their force is talking out of his ass. Schools are run by counties not cities. Schools are in numbers relative to population-same as cops. Many of these assignments could also be paid overtime off duty in appropriate cases.
Anyone that thinks money is standing in the way is fooling themselves. The government can find money for absolutely anything if the politicians want it. 53 billion sent to Ukraine would cover half a million dollars for every public school in the US.
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Spot on!
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Spot on!
If you came on here to troll like you usually do, you can fuck right off
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If you came on here to troll like you usually do, you can fuck right off
Whatever man.
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Problem is most shooters have been reported BEFORE anything happens. They get interviewed, they get evaluated, deemed having mental issues. The authorities already know about these people but nothing gets done until it's too late.
I think where you and I differ here is, I believe mentally I’ll people forfeit their right to own or buy guns, and it sounds like you believe everybody deserves their second amendment right to bear arms/buy guns until their actions deem otherwise. Sometimes it’s too late. I do not think that just because we limit who’s allowed to buy guns, that it begins the process of outlawing guns for everyone.
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Spot on!
You’re a fucking idiot Oak/Howard/Prudence. That Facebook post makes no sense.
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I think where you and I differ here is, I believe mentally I’ll people forfeit their right to own or buy guns, and it sounds like you believe everybody deserves their second amendment right to bear arms/buy guns until their actions deem otherwise. Sometimes it’s too late. I do not think that just because we limit who’s allowed to buy guns, that it begins the process of outlawing guns for everyone.
You’re a fucking idiot Oak/Howard/Prudence. That Facebook post makes no sense.
We actually agree to a certain point. I’m for certain red flag laws as long as its warranted. Like I said, the shooters in almost all shootings were red flagged by authorities and nothing was done until it was too late.
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You’re a fucking idiot Oak/Howard/Prudence. That Facebook post makes no sense.
It makes MORE sense than being pro life AND pro guns.
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Spot on!
You left out the tweet where he apologized immediately.
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It’s called…..”common sense”.
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It’s called…..”common sense”.
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If you don’t think overall violence in the UK hasn’t gone up since you’re higher than a fucking kite. Fuck off
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It’s called…..”common sense”.
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Keep out of shit you know nothing about. You don’t like guns. Keep people from protecting themselves and families…got it. Fuck head
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If you don’t think overall violence in the UK hasn’t gone up since you’re higher than a fucking kite. Fuck off
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Keep out of shit you know nothing about. You don’t like guns. Keep people from protecting themselves and families…got it. Fuck head
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Keep out of shit you know nothing about. You don’t like guns. Keep people from protecting themselves and families…got it. Fuck head
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we have had the most immigration of any of those countries
sweden should be interesting to track though
germany too
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Keep out of shit you know nothing about. You don’t like guns. Keep people from protecting themselves and families…got it. Fuck head
The literature contradicts EVERYTHING you’ve just said.
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You dumb son of a bitch. This country has 330mil people
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The literature contradicts EVERYTHING you’ve just said.
Completely fucking irrelevant you twat
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I bet he’ll tell everyone that “Putin is a genius” too.
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I bet he’ll tell everyone that “Putin is a genius” too.
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Kill yourself
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Kill yourself
Gotta love these “pro life” supporters.
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The literature contradicts EVERYTHING you’ve just said.
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES dumbass. We have a CONSTITUTION. Don't compare US to the rest of the world. AND, stick to the subject please. Find another thread to discuss the murdering of innocent unborn life.
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Gotta love these “pro life” supporters.
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You’re the precise reason why liberals are hated in this country…and yours. You support Trudeau and that’s all we need to know
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Holy crap that was seriously a real tweet he made. I had to check it for myself. F’ing nuts.
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THIS IS THE UNITED STATES dumbass. We have a CONSTITUTION. Don't compare US to the rest of the world. AND, stick to the subject please. Find another thread to discuss the murdering of innocent unborn life.
I'd just like to point out that the constitution isn't infallible.
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Half of firearm deaths in the USA are suicides.
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“I'd just like to point out that the constitution isn't infallible” - Joe Biden
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Half of firearm deaths in the USA are suicides.
I could google it just as fast as I type this, but I thought it was more like 2/3.
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Did he really say that? And if so why do you view the constitution as infallible?
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Did he really say that? And if so why do you view the constitution as infallible?
Something like that. Infallible? Nothing is infallible which is why we have constitutional law and lawyers that decipher its interpretation. But somethings are, IMO are set in stone with no wiggle room such as the Second Amendment “Shall not be infringed”
When Biden said that he was referencing the Second Amendment
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THIS IS THE UNITED STATES dumbass. We have a CONSTITUTION. Don't compare US to the rest of the world. AND, stick to the subject please. Find another thread to discuss the murdering of innocent unborn life.
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What does the NRA have to do with this you fucktard?
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Half of firearm deaths in the USA are suicides.
Closer to 60%. :)
https://preventfirearmsuicide.efsgv.org/about-firearm-suicide/statistics/
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Cowards! >:(
https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683
Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school
UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.
“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.
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But somethings are, IMO are set in stone with no wiggle room such as the Second Amendment “Shall not be infringed”
What about the "well regulated" part?
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Last time Americans cared about other countries opinions?? :D :D
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What about the "well regulated" part?
Yep, that part too. Do you understand that part? Not being condescending, but do you?
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What about the "well regulated" part?
What about it?
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Did he really say that? And if so why do you view the constitution as infallible?
There is a method for changing the Constitution. Feel free to use it.
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Cowards! >:(
https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683
Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school
UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.
“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.
Also in the article: "Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw told reporters that 40 minutes to an hour elapsed from when Ramos opened fire on the school security officer to when the tactical team shot him, though a department spokesman said later that they could not give a solid estimate of how long the gunman was in the school or when he was killed."
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Spot on!
He's baaack!
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If it's not a gun issue but rather a mental health issue why would Gov. Abbott do this?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/abbott-calls-texas-school-shooting-232258543.html
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If it's not a gun issue but rather a mental health issue why would Gov. Abbott do this?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/abbott-calls-texas-school-shooting-232258543.html
Law abiding citizens w/ guns dont kill people. (Otherwise the half-billion legally owned guns in the US would have already taken out the population).
Law abiding citizens w/ airplanes dont fly 'em into towers.
Law abiding folks dont blow up building with trucks filled w/ fertilizer.
Calling it a "gun issue" is nonsense.
Guns have been around since who the fuck knows when. Ive owned for 40+ years, ive never shot anyone, never hunted/killed animals.
Knife murders are five-times higher than rifle-murders. Do we need to ban steak-knives?
People are the problem, not inanimate tools that they use for their crimes.
If there were no guns, this kvnt would have went in with molotov's and flame-throwers (that you can buy at garden centers to burn up garden-weeds).
This retard wasnt a law-abiding person like the 99.99% of legal gun owners are.
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Cops cowered in fear as children were murdered en masse, but don't worry - they had time to put up some yellow tape and keep parents from trying to save their children
Yes, here's what would solve the problem: Paying twice as many useless cops. ::)
Let's hope that next time they don't cower and scurry like rats when the shooting starts.
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These are the victims it's unfortunate they were killed however does anyone else notice anything odd? And they say replacement theory isn't real.
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These are the victims it's unfortunate they were killed however does anyone else notice anything odd? And they say replacement theory isn't real.
It's a rural Texas town about 60 miles to the Border, it's not surprising there's Mexicans.
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Cop Cowards! >:(
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Police waited to enter Texas school as shooter went on killing spree: witness
https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/police-waited-to-enter-texas-school-as-shooter-went-on-killing-spree/
“There was at least 40 lawmen armed to the teeth but didn’t do a darn thing [until] it was far too late,” Javier Cazares, the father of 10-year-old victim Jackie Cazares, told ABC News.
A witness who lived across the street from the elementary school, said onlookers begged officers outside the school to do something as bullets rang inside the building.
“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers who did not go inside, 24-year-old Juan Carranza said.
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Men of action!
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U.S. Border Patrol Chief Raul Ortiz said in a Wednesday interview with CNN that as soon as the Border Patrol officers arrived, “they didn’t hesitate.”
“They didn’t hesitate. They came up with a plan,” Ortiz told the outlet. “They entered that classroom and they took care of the situation as quickly as they possibly could.”
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Cop Cowards! >:(
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Police waited to enter Texas school as shooter went on killing spree: witness
https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/police-waited-to-enter-texas-school-as-shooter-went-on-killing-spree/
“There was at least 40 lawmen armed to the teeth but didn’t do a darn thing [until] it was far too late,” Javier Cazares, the father of 10-year-old victim Jackie Cazares, told ABC News.
A witness who lived across the street from the elementary school, said onlookers begged officers outside the school to do something as bullets rang inside the building.
“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers who did not go inside, 24-year-old Juan Carranza said.
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Men of action!
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U.S. Border Patrol Chief Raul Ortiz said in a Wednesday interview with CNN that as soon as the Border Patrol officers arrived, “they didn’t hesitate.”
“They didn’t hesitate. They came up with a plan,” Ortiz told the outlet. “They entered that classroom and they took care of the situation as quickly as they possibly could.”
Holy cow that’s nuts. When I first heard a border patrol agent took out the shooter I figured it was an agent that was the first on scene was nearby and heard shots so he was the first on scene, can’t believe police were there and border were the ones that took action inside.
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You are correct about most shooters either give up or kill themselves when confronted by an armed police officer. The coward comment though- I will say if the shoe fits wear it. I have trained in active shooter drills. Most cops I trained with I have no doubt would put their lives on the line and absolutely charge an armed shooter at a school without hesitation. That’s what they are paid for. The 343 firefighters that died in the trade center mostly KNEW they were likely going to die. They did not hesitate. Comes with the territory and I have the high ground in this statement as I have personally put my life at risk when confronted with doing something that might save a life.
The only way to stop school shootings is to place multiple armed officers standing outside the school all 180 days of the school year. I don’t care how low-percentage the probability is- you have a similar probability of your house catching fire but millions are spent in every community to have staffed fire apparatus 24/7 to protect inanimate structures. That’s right-you should know fire departments were started to protect insurance companies from paying for buildings. Not to protect your life.
Since I happen to know plenty of school teachers I can tell you pretty much every one agrees with me and would WELCOME the police presence outside.
The village idiot claiming small towns would have to double their force is talking out of his ass. Schools are run by counties not cities. Schools are in numbers relative to population-same as cops. Many of these assignments could also be paid overtime off duty in appropriate cases.
Anyone that thinks money is standing in the way is fooling themselves. The government can find money for absolutely anything if the politicians want it. 53 billion sent to Ukraine would cover half a million dollars for every public school in the US.
Depends on the state.
Where I live each town pays for its own schools.
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Video of them holding up the parents, there's some argument of when this was taken, but it was close to the time it actually happened. Around 4:30 ish you can hear them arguing that the shooting is still going on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Usedtobebrewer/status/1529650911135551489 .
Around 1:30 in this a police spokesman says that cops went in to get their own children.
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Video of them holding up the parents, there's some argument of when this was taken, but it was close to the time it actually happened. Around 4:30 ish you can hear them arguing that the shooting is still going on.
Around 1:30 in this a police spokesman says that cops went in to get their own children.
They were just being tactical, bro. They knew, from their intensive training, that if the shooter used up all of his ammo on children, they'd have a better chance of taking the threat out and returning home to their families.
What we really need is more cops to set up a tighter defensive perimeter!
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I dont know how many of you badasses have been in a gun fight. But a lot of you sound like you're 10 feet tall and bullet proof. Lol.
The hardest talkers here don't know shit and have NEVER faced a man shooting at you.
Yeah tactics are stupid. What we need is 100 cops running in there creating crossfire and friendly fire.
Im sure all of you have the situational awareness to immediately summarize and evaluate a threat. Identify the nature of a tgreat, formulate and implement a plan within seconds. God damn.
If only a few getbiggers were there....
Heres a clue shit head Stefaggo: almost all active shooters that didn't surrender were stopped by a gun. And almost all those guns were fired by cops.
Here the cops Engaged with him before he went into the school and one was shot in the head. I suppose hes a coward too?
They don't always get it right. It actually takes some figuring out to do something before you do it. But to immediately label them as all cowards is fucking disgusting.
Let me tell you- since you clearly don't know- it goes against every fiber in your body to run toward someone who is shooting at automatic weapon. You have to overpower your instincts to self preserve and despite that move in the direction of danger.
I bet you would shit yourself at the SOUND of automatic gun fire. It rings different and rattles your core the very action of it is violent even when it doesn't tear a person apart.
Yeah cops are cowards. Except for the cop that ran in and killed this fucker.
Yeah the media lies all tge time except when they're crucifying cops. Then its all truth.
Yeah even president fuckface was 'gonna make the border patrol agents pay' for lassoing and whipping aliens running across the border. Nobody ever retracted that story even though it was bullshit.
Half of you believe whatever the fuck you want and dont truly know fuck all and have never DONE fuck all especially take down an armed psychopath.
Im sure Stefaggo is a real beast with real world experience. He balks and the concept of training, tacticss. You know jackshit about what to do with an active shooter, versus a barricaded gunman versus a hostage situation. But im sure you would know EXACTLY and INSTANTLY what to do if you were there.
This is the story now? So even when its law enforcement that ends this fucker the story is now: cops are cowards.
When a piece of shit dies of a drug overdose the cops are murderers and locked up for life.
Some piece of shit shoots a cop and is let go?
There has been an all out attack on cops by the libfuck media for years. And the spin here, that these cops are cowards is sickening. That any of you believe it, on its face no less is mind boggling.
Ok. Let me ask this parent that just lost the most precious thing in the world how they feel about this.
You pick and choose what you want to believe. I suggest you actually try thinking for yourself for once on your fucking life.
I hope none of you honestly believe that while the incident was ongoing that cops ran in. Got there own children. Left the rest behind. While the shooting was going on. They may have been allowed to remove their children prior to other parents. But not WHILE the shooting was going on.
*and quite honestly if my children was in that school I would have no hesitation about saving them first and fucking foremost above any other person there. I wouldn't give it a second fucking thought and I would never ever be ashamed of it and I wouldn't let anyone or anything stand in my way. Badge. No badge. Anything. If its between my kid and anyone else you better fucking believe id put my kid first. If you wouldn't you're either a liar or a complete sack of shit.
And Stephano you're a bitch.
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Sorry no you dont get to spend 10 minutes discussing your options outside with a dozen other armed officers while kids are being shot in a school you go in immediately no excuse
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Sorry no you dont get to spend 10 minutes discussing your options outside with a dozen other armed officers while kids are being shot in a school you go in immediately no excuse
You didn't read a fucking word i wrote. Before he even went into the school the cops got into a shootout with him. One of the first victims was a cop who was shot in the head.
But their cowards. Headshot. Nonsense. Flesh wound. Shake it off.
No one was standing around discussing options you fucking retard and thats not what I said.
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Uvaldes finest
https://mobile.twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1529652093354536961
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Uvaldes finest
https://mobile.twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1529652093354536961
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What do you think this video shows exactly?
A bunch of cops trying to sort through the chaos.
While a bunch of emotional and irrational- understably so- parents add to the chaos.
Yeah no need to document anything. No need to do a role call or a head count no need to preserve evidence
There could be IEDs or a second shooter like Columbine but thats ok. No need to figure that shit out. Let the parents run through the fucking s hool.
Yep. Cowardly incompetent cops. All of them. Especially the one that was shot in the head. And the border patrol who killed the shooter. Both losers just harrassing grieving parents.
Jesus fucking christ.
Because twitter said so.
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“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.
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https://media.local10.com/document_dev/2018/07/11/MSD%20students%20Vs.%20Broward%20County_1531323754856_12351849_ver1.0.pdf
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
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Law abiding citizens w/ guns dont kill people. (Otherwise the half-billion legally owned guns in the US would have already taken out the population).
Law abiding citizens w/ airplanes dont fly 'em into towers.
Law abiding folks dont blow up building with trucks filled w/ fertilizer.
Calling it a "gun issue" is nonsense.
Guns have been around since who the fuck knows when. Ive owned for 40+ years, ive never shot anyone, never hunted/killed animals.
Knife murders are five-times higher than rifle-murders. Do we need to ban steak-knives?
People are the problem, not inanimate tools that they use for their crimes.
If there were no guns, this kvnt would have went in with molotov's and flame-throwers (that you can buy at garden centers to burn up garden-weeds).
This retard wasnt a law-abiding person like the 99.99% of legal gun owners are.
Correct, right track here.
Availability of firearms has been the situation in the USA for a long, long, long time. Pistols, shotguns, bolt-action and semi-auto rifles to name a few, all available in the past w even less barriers/infringements to purchase and keep. School shootings such as this are a more recent phenomenon...
What has changed since 1950? That's the question.
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These are the victims it's unfortunate they were killed however does anyone else notice anything odd? And they say replacement theory isn't real.
south Texas hasn't really been white majority since its independence but uvalde did vote for Trump
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I dont know how many of you badasses have been in a gun fight. But a lot of you sound like you're 10 feet tall and bullet proof. Lol.
The hardest talkers here don't know shit and have NEVER faced a man shooting at you.
Yeah tactics are stupid. What we need is 100 cops running in there creating crossfire and friendly fire.
Im sure all of you have the situational awareness to immediately summarize and evaluate a threat. Identify the nature of a tgreat, formulate and implement a plan within seconds. God damn.
If only a few getbiggers were there....
Heres a clue shit head Stefaggo: almost all active shooters that didn't surrender were stopped by a gun. And almost all those guns were fired by cops.
Here the cops Engaged with him before he went into the school and one was shot in the head. I suppose hes a coward too?
They don't always get it right. It actually takes some figuring out to do something before you do it. But to immediately label them as all cowards is fucking disgusting.
Let me tell you- since you clearly don't know- it goes against every fiber in your body to run toward someone who is shooting at automatic weapon. You have to overpower your instincts to self preserve and despite that move in the direction of danger.
I bet you would shit yourself at the SOUND of automatic gun fire. It rings different and rattles your core the very action of it is violent even when it doesn't tear a person apart.
Yeah cops are cowards. Except for the cop that ran in and killed this fucker.
Yeah the media lies all tge time except when they're crucifying cops. Then its all truth.
Yeah even president fuckface was 'gonna make the border patrol agents pay' for lassoing and whipping aliens running across the border. Nobody ever retracted that story even though it was bullshit.
Half of you believe whatever the fuck you want and dont truly know fuck all and have never DONE fuck all especially take down an armed psychopath.
Im sure Stefaggo is a real beast with real world experience. He balks and the concept of training, tacticss. You know jackshit about what to do with an active shooter, versus a barricaded gunman versus a hostage situation. But im sure you would know EXACTLY and INSTANTLY what to do if you were there.
This is the story now? So even when its law enforcement that ends this fucker the story is now: cops are cowards.
When a piece of shit dies of a drug overdose the cops are murderers and locked up for life.
Some piece of shit shoots a cop and is let go?
There has been an all out attack on cops by the libfuck media for years. And the spin here, that these cops are cowards is sickening. That any of you believe it, on its face no less is mind boggling.
Ok. Let me ask this parent that just lost the most precious thing in the world how they feel about this.
You pick and choose what you want to believe. I suggest you actually try thinking for yourself for once on your fucking life.
I hope none of you honestly believe that while the incident was ongoing that cops ran in. Got there own children. Left the rest behind. While the shooting was going on. They may have been allowed to remove their children prior to other parents. But not WHILE the shooting was going on.
*and quite honestly if my children was in that school I would have no hesitation about saving them first and fucking foremost above any other person there. I wouldn't give it a second fucking thought and I would never ever be ashamed of it and I wouldn't let anyone or anything stand in my way. Badge. No badge. Anything. If its between my kid and anyone else you better fucking believe id put my kid first. If you wouldn't you're either a liar or a complete sack of shit.
And Stephano you're a bitch.
A cop didn't kill him. A border patrol agent did.
The cops were standing around playing with their dicks.
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“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.
Back the blue
https://media.local10.com/document_dev/2018/07/11/MSD%20students%20Vs.%20Broward%20County_1531323754856_12351849_ver1.0.pdf
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
Yep.
Those cops were there because... they didn't have to do anything?
Most of the cops probably just like looking at dead kids and grieving parents. They weren't actually doing anything. Certainly not taking any kind of action.
The cop who was shot in the head? Same. He wasn't trying to protect shit.
The cop that took out the shooter? He was probably looking for an opportunity to kill a Hispanic. He wasn't compelled to take any action.
Lazy fuckin good for nothing cops. The one shot in the head will probably get a nice paid vacation too i bet.
Yeah just standing around, cowardly, not doing a fucking thing.
I wish a cadre of getbiggers would've deployed to Uvalde. Between the legal experts and bonafidr badasses they would've made mince meat of the shooter and then ate the. Cops for dessert.
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A cop didn't kill him. A border patrol agent did.
The cops were standing around playing with their dicks.
No shit sherlock.
Wtf do you think a border patrol agent is?
You know what a state trooper is? A cop.
A county deputy? A cop
A city police officer? A cop.
Yeah. It wasnt the cops. It wasn't law enforcement it was a border patrol agent. We all know the vast difference in carachter and courage and intelligence of a border patrol agent as opposed to all other forms of law enforcement.!
Fucking Clarence Darrow.
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So, we are debating the definition of a cop?
The 40 inept chickenshit local cops and troopers who played with their dicks until a REAL cop showed up.
Is that how the Army works compared to the Marines?
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What do you think this video shows exactly?
A bunch of cops trying to sort through the chaos.
While a bunch of emotional and irrational- understably so- parents add to the chaos.
Yeah no need to document anything. No need to do a role call or a head count no need to preserve evidence
There could be IEDs or a second shooter like Columbine but thats ok. No need to figure that shit out. Let the parents run through the fucking s hool.
Yep. Cowardly incompetent cops. All of them. Especially the one that was shot in the head. And the border patrol who killed the shooter. Both losers just harrassing grieving parents.
Jesus fucking christ.
Because twitter said so.
Most schools in Texas that I know of participate in active shooter drills on the weekend, how often I don’t know. But they go through plans and procedures in a shooting situation. One of the rules is you don’t ask the kids or teachers to open doors to come out and you don’t ask who needs help. An officer either identifies the location of the shooter to engage or begins to sweep while all teachers never open a door unless the door is opened by a key.
Sounds like procedures need to be followed and more procedures developed. It’s not a hostage situation it’s an action e shooter situation.
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https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683
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Law abiding citizens w/ guns dont kill people. (Otherwise the half-billion legally owned guns in the US would have already taken out the population).
Law abiding citizens w/ airplanes dont fly 'em into towers.
Law abiding folks dont blow up building with trucks filled w/ fertilizer.
Calling it a "gun issue" is nonsense.
Guns have been around since who the fuck knows when. Ive owned for 40+ years, ive never shot anyone, never hunted/killed animals.
Knife murders are five-times higher than rifle-murders. Do we need to ban steak-knives?
People are the problem, not inanimate tools that they use for their crimes.
If there were no guns, this kvnt would have went in with molotov's and flame-throwers (that you can buy at garden centers to burn up garden-weeds).
This retard wasnt a law-abiding person like the 99.99% of legal gun owners are.
Since it's not a gun issue, why did the governor slash 210 million from the budget that impacts mental health?
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These are the victims it's unfortunate they were killed however does anyone else notice anything odd? And they say replacement theory isn't real.
Replacement theory isn't real. Are you geographically retarded?
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Not even going to chime in until we get the full explanation and, if anyone gave a stand down order
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Not even going to chime in until we get the full explanation and, if anyone gave a stand down order
Probably all standing around waiting for orders.
Dealing with a mass shooter by committee.
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Probably all standing around waiting for orders.
Dealing with a mass shooter by committee.
My only speculation is and this is just my opinion, they didn’t know exactly which room(s) he was barricaded in, possibly getting a layout of the school, entrances, exits, hallways and CQB plans, how many men to use in a CQB.
Hallways, room entrances are also known as “fatal funnels” meaning those are the most vulnerable areas for teams to go into.
Again, this is just my opinion trying to give them the benefit of the doubt
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:D
(https://i.postimg.cc/8Ph5zBTD/FTsvc-YAVUAANS-Q.jpg)
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Except the run by Democrats part is ignoring the demographics. It wouldn't be as pronounced, however, with Republicans.
Not dissimilar to the ben shapiro, dennis prager, levine, levin... owned "conservative" outlets having conservatives shifting blame onto AOC, "the squad", or the 3 inert muslims in congress while ignoring the commie elephant in America that's molding America to their anti-White image when it's Biden(not really, he's braindead), aided by Blinken, Mayorkas, Yellen, Garland, Pelosi, Shumer, Nadler, Warren, RINOS like Cheney, etc... the movie industry, every institution,... that are kind of behind it all.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dyp3PSvH/FTpi-FXr-Xw-AADAm-A.png)
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Dems don’t want solutions…fuckers keep lying. These pieces of shit LIVE for shootings like this
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schumer-blocks-senate-gop-school-safety-bill-angering-republicans
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Since it's not a gun issue, why did the governor slash 210 million from the budget that impacts mental health?
Who said governers know what the fuck their doing? Means nothing...
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Hahahahaha, hold up...
So these cowards grow fat on tax dollars, and then when shit gets real they have the gall to hold parents back from storming the school to save their children. They just stand there, pissing their pants in fear, waiting for a breach team from the border patrol to come in and kill him.
Now "Beakdoctor" is melting down.
Y- you don't have all the facts!
T-the reports are fake. They're out of context!
The videos are fake, too. T-they're also CGI!
Six gorillion police officers engaged the shooter bravely and got shot in the head!
Maybe it's real and they're all cowards but you... y-you're a homo!
All schools need Military Police, a mechanized infantry platoon, and CIA, for the safety of the children!
lol.
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Hahahahaha, hold up...
So these cowards grow fat on tax dollars, and then when shit gets real they have the gall to hold parents back from storming the school to save their children. They just stand there, pissing their pants in fear, waiting for a breach team from the border patrol to come in and kill him.
Now "Beakdoctor" is melting down.
lol.
Are you anti-gun?
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Are you anti-gun?
No. I fully support civilian ownership of guns. I'd even loosen current restrictions.
The cops are just predictably useless, and it's even quite likely that they did more harm than good in this instance. Armed parents could have taken the lone shooter out. Instead, the worthless cowards kept the shooter "contained" for a good long time -- in a room full of targets.
But, sure, more cops are the answer. ::)
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It's all good now.
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Meghan Markle visits Uvalde to lay roses at Texas school shooting memorial
https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/meghan-markle-visits-texas-shooting-memorial-to-lay-wreath/
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/markle-1.jpg?quality=75&strip=all)
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Fuck if true
https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/26/joe-irma-garcia-husband-teacher-killed-school-shooting-dies-heart-attack-twitter/
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Chickenshit cops. >:(
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Distressing videos show parents begging cops to stop Texas school shooting
https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/videos-show-parents-begging-cops-to-stop-texas-school-shooting/
Harrowing videos captured the heartbreaking wails of parents begging cops to “Go protect the kids!” during the Texas school shooting — with some suggesting they “just rush” the school themselves.
Another clip caught even more angry parents confronting officers standing around outside, with the livestreamer saying that it had “already been about an hour and they still can’t get the kids all out.”
“That’s f—ing crazy, bro — they’re standing all outside [and] there’s f—ing kids in there still, man,” he said.
One mom yelled at an officer, “You’re scared of getting shot? I’ll go in without a vest — I will!”
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Chickenshit cops. >:(
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Distressing videos show parents begging cops to stop Texas school shooting
https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/videos-show-parents-begging-cops-to-stop-texas-school-shooting/
Harrowing videos captured the heartbreaking wails of parents begging cops to “Go protect the kids!” during the Texas school shooting — with some suggesting they “just rush” the school themselves.
Another clip caught even more angry parents confronting officers standing around outside, with the livestreamer saying that it had “already been about an hour and they still can’t get the kids all out.”
“That’s f—ing crazy, bro — they’re standing all outside [and] there’s f—ing kids in there still, man,” he said.
One mom yelled at an officer, “You’re scared of getting shot? I’ll go in without a vest — I will!”
Cops cuffed (and apparently also tazed) parents trying to get into the school to get their kids, while cops who had kids in there went and got their kids out lmao
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Anyone listen to the press conference today? There was NO school resource officer as first reported
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/26/shock-dps-reveals-uvalde-shooter-entered-thru-unlocked-door-no-school-police-officer/
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/26/shock-dps-reveals-uvalde-shooter-entered-thru-unlocked-door-no-school-police-officer/
Did you see this part from the article you posted?
"Escalon added that local police responded sixteen minutes after the crash, at 11:44 a.m., and entered the building, but retreated after an exchange of gunfire in which some officers were apparently wounded. Law enforcement then waited outside the building for an hour."
From another article:
It then took an hour for specialized SWAT teams to arrive. At 1.06pm, the incident was declared over after Ramos was shot dead.
In the meantime, 150 cops were gathering outside. Some of them were filmed pinning parents to the floor and some were even placed in handcuffs, according to witnesses.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1529808809719480320
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Did you see this part from the article you posted?
From another article:
I heard the presser today. I just wanted to post an article from the presser
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https://mobile.twitter.com/im_carney/status/1529538242642575361
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Just another day in America.
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Anyone listen to the press conference today? There was NO school resource officer as first reported
And they doors were unlocked, wtf!
Pretty sad to realize shooting was happening while cops held parents back.
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This isn’t a gun problem or a gun control problem. This basically started with Columbine. What’s culture changes has this country gone through since?
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And they doors were unlocked, wtf!
Pretty sad to realize shooting was happening while cops held parents back.
Absolutely horrible. What this community is going through is unimaginable
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I dont know how many of you badasses have been in a gun fight. But a lot of you sound like you're 10 feet tall and bullet proof. Lol.
The hardest talkers here don't know shit and have NEVER faced a man shooting at you.
Yeah tactics are stupid. What we need is 100 cops running in there creating crossfire and friendly fire.
Im sure all of you have the situational awareness to immediately summarize and evaluate a threat. Identify the nature of a tgreat, formulate and implement a plan within seconds. God damn.
If only a few getbiggers were there....
Heres a clue shit head Stefaggo: almost all active shooters that didn't surrender were stopped by a gun. And almost all those guns were fired by cops.
Here the cops Engaged with him before he went into the school and one was shot in the head. I suppose hes a coward too?
They don't always get it right. It actually takes some figuring out to do something before you do it. But to immediately label them as all cowards is fucking disgusting.
Let me tell you- since you clearly don't know- it goes against every fiber in your body to run toward someone who is shooting at automatic weapon. You have to overpower your instincts to self preserve and despite that move in the direction of danger.
I bet you would shit yourself at the SOUND of automatic gun fire. It rings different and rattles your core the very action of it is violent even when it doesn't tear a person apart.
Yeah cops are cowards. Except for the cop that ran in and killed this fucker.
Yeah the media lies all tge time except when they're crucifying cops. Then its all truth.
Yeah even president fuckface was 'gonna make the border patrol agents pay' for lassoing and whipping aliens running across the border. Nobody ever retracted that story even though it was bullshit.
Half of you believe whatever the fuck you want and dont truly know fuck all and have never DONE fuck all especially take down an armed psychopath.
Im sure Stefaggo is a real beast with real world experience. He balks and the concept of training, tacticss. You know jackshit about what to do with an active shooter, versus a barricaded gunman versus a hostage situation. But im sure you would know EXACTLY and INSTANTLY what to do if you were there.
This is the story now? So even when its law enforcement that ends this fucker the story is now: cops are cowards.
When a piece of shit dies of a drug overdose the cops are murderers and locked up for life.
Some piece of shit shoots a cop and is let go?
There has been an all out attack on cops by the libfuck media for years. And the spin here, that these cops are cowards is sickening. That any of you believe it, on its face no less is mind boggling.
Ok. Let me ask this parent that just lost the most precious thing in the world how they feel about this.
You pick and choose what you want to believe. I suggest you actually try thinking for yourself for once on your fucking life.
I hope none of you honestly believe that while the incident was ongoing that cops ran in. Got there own children. Left the rest behind. While the shooting was going on. They may have been allowed to remove their children prior to other parents. But not WHILE the shooting was going on.
*and quite honestly if my children was in that school I would have no hesitation about saving them first and fucking foremost above any other person there. I wouldn't give it a second fucking thought and I would never ever be ashamed of it and I wouldn't let anyone or anything stand in my way. Badge. No badge. Anything. If its between my kid and anyone else you better fucking believe id put my kid first. If you wouldn't you're either a liar or a complete sack of shit.
And Stephano you're a bitch.
Much of your points are predicated on the shooter having an automatic weapon. He had a semiautomatic rifle. BTW, you can fire a Glock 17 just as fast as you can fire a semiautomatic rifle.
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This isn’t a gun problem or a gun control problem. This basically started with Columbine. What’s culture changes has this country gone through since?
Social media and video games.
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Social media and video games.
And it’s really as simple as that!!!
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And it’s really as simple as that!!!
Serious question. Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition? It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well. Please everyone keep your pants on. I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.
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Serious question. Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition? It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well. Please everyone keep your pants on. I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.
We have 18 year olds in the military….
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We have 18 year olds in the military….
That's a legit point but they are also vetted and trained.
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social media... all about attention whoring and acceptance.... if you have only a few followers/friends/likes etc... might as well get attention by posting guns and threats and going loco ... he had his "look at me" moment and earned some lead... unfortunately he earned it and hour too late.
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Serious question. Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition? It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well. Please everyone keep your pants on. I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.
Not an "assault rifle," not a "weapon of war."
Our military doesn't go into battle with semiautomatic rifles.
Virginia Tech shooter slaughtered 32 and shot another 19 using two semiauto handguns and 10-round magazines.
TX phukker probably thought his rifle was sexy, but he could've used a handgun instead.
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Not an "assault rifle," not a "weapon of war."
Our military doesn't go into battle with semiautomatic rifles.
Virginia Tech shooter slaughtered 32 and shot another 19 using two semiauto handguns and 10-round magazines.
TX phukker probably thought his rifle was sexy, but he could've used a handgun instead.
Not gonna play word games with you. I guess we just get used to school shootings as if they were seasonal storms.
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Most Americans are angry about these attacks and want them to stop, but we are asking the wrong questions. When you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers.
The government and the police can do fuck-all to prevent things like this. We have a mental, spiritual, and cultural crisis in the United States.
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Most Americans are angry about these attacks and want them to stop, but we are asking the wrong questions. When you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers.
The government and the police can do fuck-all to prevent things like this. We have a mental, spiritual, and cultural crisis in the United States.
I don't necessarily disagree with you but Canada and Europe have the same issues and don't have the same, constant slaughters that we have.
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Not gonna play word games with you. I guess we just get used to school shootings as if they were seasonal storms.
You can’t stop it but you can mitigate it. One side wants more gun control and the other side wants armed security and or faculty within the school grounds. Which makes more sense?
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I don't necessarily disagree with you but Canada and Europe have the same issues and don't have the same, constant slaughters that we have.
They have their own problems with violence plus you’re talking about a significantly lower population
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Not gonna play word games with you. I guess we just get used to school shootings as if they were seasonal storms.
Dude, sloppy language muddies the discussion, debate, and dialogue.
We're not discussing something complicated like particle physics or Coltrane changes. I just saw an online paper use the term “magazine clip” regarding the TX shootings. That’s like saying “automatic manual transmission.” ::)
For years people erroneously thought that the AR in AR15 meant assault rifle or army rifle, and 10 years from now folks will still believe it.
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That's a legit point but they are also vetted and trained.
Bullshit. Look at the umber of gangbangers in the military.
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Serious question. Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition? It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well. Please everyone keep your pants on. I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.
Yes. It's called Americas rifle for a reason. Of the hundreds of thousands of those rifles in citizens hands, what percentage are used nefariously? And there is no such thing as an assault rifle, that's another made up media term used to scare people that don't know and refuse to learn.
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Dude, sloppy language muddies the discussion, debate, and dialogue.
We're not discussing something complicated like particle physics or Coltrane changes. I just saw an online paper use the term “magazine clip” regarding the TX shootings. That’s like saying “automatic manual transmission.” ::)
For years people erroneously thought that the AR in AR15 meant assault rifle or army rifle, and 10 years from now folks will still believe it.
who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine". Insignificant to the discussion at hand.
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who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine". Insignificant to the discussion at hand.
Knowledge of what you're discussing = insignificant...gotcha ::)
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Always interesting to step back and see everyone’s response to these coordinated media events.
The rulers are puppeteers to the low IQ, emotionally disturbed, and indoctrinated masses.
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Think about the social pressures now. Friend lists, likes, followers, etc., plus pictures of who’s doing what with who and where. Kids and teens aren’t allowed to be teens, picking on someone isn’t the same as 25 years ago where, ok you got picked on or teased and then school is out and it stop….it’s exaggerated and prolonged and the kids that don’t fit in are reminded all the time at home with social media.
Video games just adds to a picked on teen’s distraction and outlet to escape to the point that game is maybe seen as there outlet in real life.
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We need to start addressing the root cause like I said before. However, we also need to harden up our schools which will cost a bit of money but it can be done.
We spend money on what's important to us. We need to start protecting our children like we protect our money. I've worked at some big and small businesses over the years and they would do their deposits every day, sometimes as little as $300 in cash. This money needed to go to the bank. Guess what, several armed men came to pick the $300 cash deposit up and they arrived in a fucking armored car. Also, our government just decided to send 40 billion dollars to Ukraine. We can protect our schools, thus far we have chosen not to.
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the more information that comes out about Uvalde police the worse they look:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161?mod=e2tw
Department of Public Safety officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said.
Ramos shot his grandmother Tuesday morning and drove her truck to Robb Elementary School, crashing the vehicle into a nearby ditch at 11:28 a.m., according to the timeline laid out by Mr. Escalon. He then began shooting at people at a funeral home across the street, prompting a 911 call reporting a gunman at the school at 11:30. Ramos climbed a chain-link fence about 8 feet high onto school grounds and began firing before walking inside, unimpeded, at 11:40. The first police arrived on the scene at 11:44 and exchanged gunfire with Ramos, who locked himself in a fourth-grade classroom. There, he killed the students and teachers.
A Border Patrol tactical team went into the school an hour later, around 12:40 p.m., and was able to get into the classroom and kill Ramos, Mr. Escalon said.
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NEW: Texas law enforcement officials at a press conference say they believe that all the children that were shot and killed in Uvalde, TX were shot by Salvador Ramos and not anyone else [i.e. law enforcement].
its gonna turn out that the cops went cowboy and ended up shooting the kids
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the more information that comes out about Uvalde police the worse they look:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161?mod=e2tw
How is this possible? I thought they said he was confronted and shot (or shot at) the school police guy?
I also read he said something in Facebook messenger chat along the lines of "why is the school still open?" But this was like an hour or two before the event. What does that mean?
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who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine". Insignificant to the discussion at hand.
It’s not insignificant, it’s important to be accurate when describing a firearm or parts of a firearm. You have fucking moron leftists that are literally trying to politicize guns when In fact most of these idiots have never shot one let along speak with expertise on one. Biden and that fucking moron Shiela Jackson Lee come to mind
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It’s not insignificant, it’s important to be accurate when describing a firearm or parts of a firearm. You have fucking moron leftists that are literally trying to politicize guns when In fact most of these idiots have never shot one let along speak with expertise on one. Biden and that fucking moron Shiela Jackson Lee come to mind
Regarding the weapon and ammo used by the scumbag in Texas. Should any 18 year old be able to walk in to any store that sells them and buy them?
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Serious question. Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition? It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well. Please everyone keep your pants on. I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.
This is a very difficult situation for me. I grew up in the country and have been shooting guns since i was 6 years old. The way i was raised it was unheard of for anyone to disrespect a gun or use them in a negative way. Country dudes would beat the shit out of each other, but never pull a gun. Most of our dad's didn't even lock up their guns, my dad had a dozen rifles and shotguns in his closet, boxes of ammo on the top shelf. Nobody EVER dreamed of even touching them.
I think times have changed. As a red blooded American and far right leaning Libertarian, i believe in freedom of just about everything. But the subject of access to guns does bother me.
Should it be more difficult to buy a firearm? I think so.
I've met so many fucked up people who did terrible things in my life. I've known guys who have shot people and my best friend from High School robbed a bank, ran from cops, shot at cops and was arrested after he ran out of ammo. This guy was the quietest and nerdy guy around. But he met some bad people and a few years later became a bad person.
I think that this subject is very difficult for many, and it is for me. While i own more firearms (and other goodies) than i'd care to admit, 90% of them are for hunting or sport shooting. At the end of the day it isn't people like me and Coach committing these crimes.
But what are the limits of regulation? I'm against regulation of everything. But this is for people like me and others, who have never crossed any lines and follow the rules. In my entire life, even while under the influence of acid/alcohol/whatever, i've never once even "thought" about doing something dangerous with a gun, they are not toys. I used to carry a gun 24/7 when i lived in Houston and it wasn't because of people like Coach, it's the pieces of shit who have no soul. I've seen shootouts and i've had my life threatened before.
So how do we regulate the shit stains? This to me is so complex and i know that any further regulation will hurt people like me before it hurts the bad guy. Shit, i can buy an AK-47 from Mexico that has no numbers for a few hundred dollars. I can buy it this weekend if i want to. You just need to know the right guy and trust me they are very easy to find.
I won't give an answer to how "I" believe it should work, as i am very conflicted. Felons can't own a firearm, but they all have them and continue to use them for bad deeds.
Do we trust the government to have the "ability" to even regulate them? They seem to suck at regulating everything else.
What regulation has worked? How has the war on drugs worked out?
I won't comment on the Cops actions, they have rules to follow. Having the parents rush in there would have absolutely made things worse. But if my kid was in there, i'd be sneaking in that fucking school like John Rambo, quietly and quickly. I would have a serious hard time not going in, as i probably have more training than those Cops on scene.
In NM the Dick's don't sell any type of firearm or ammunition. ;D
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This is a very difficult situation for me. I grew up in the country and have been shooting guns since i was 6 years old. The way i was raised it was unheard of for anyone to disrespect a gun or use them in a negative way. Country dudes would beat the shit out of each other, but never pull a gun. Most of our dad's didn't even lock up their guns, my dad had a dozen rifles and shotguns in his closet, boxes of ammo on the top shelf. Nobody EVER dreamed of even touching them.
I think times have changed. As a red blooded American and far right leaning Libertarian, i believe in freedom of just about everything. But the subject of access to guns does bother me.
Should it be more difficult to buy a firearm? I think so.
I've met so many fucked up people who did terrible things in my life. I've known guys who have shot people and my best friend from High School robbed a bank, ran from cops, shot at cops and was arrested after he ran out of ammo. This guy was the quietest and nerdy guy around. But he met some bad people and a few years later became a bad person.
I think that this subject is very difficult for many, and it is for me. While i own more firearms (and other goodies) than i'd care to admit, 90% of them are for hunting or sport shooting. At the end of the day it isn't people like me and Coach committing these crimes.
But what are the limits of regulation? I'm against regulation of everything. But this is for people like me and others, who have never crossed any lines and follow the rules. In my entire life, even while under the influence of acid/alcohol/whatever, i've never once even "thought" about doing something dangerous with a gun, they are not toys. I used to carry a gun 24/7 when i lived in Houston and it wasn't because of people like Coach, it's the pieces of shit who have no soul. I've seen shootouts and i've had my life threatened before.
So how do we regulate the shit stains? This to me is so complex and i know that any further regulation will hurt people like me before it hurts the bad guy. Shit, i can buy an AK-47 from Mexico that has no numbers for a few hundred dollars. I can buy it this weekend if i want to. You just need to know the right guy and trust me they are very easy to find.
I won't give an answer to how "I" believe it should work, as i am very conflicted. Felons can't own a firearm, but they all have them and continue to use them for bad deeds.
Do we trust the government to have the "ability" to even regulate them? They seem to suck at regulating everything else.
What regulation has worked? How has the war on drugs worked out?
I won't comment on the Cops actions, they have rules to follow. Having the parents rush in there would have absolutely made things worse. But if my kid was in there, i'd be sneaking in that fucking school like John Rambo, quietly and quickly. I would have a serious hard time not going in, as i probably have more training than those Cops on scene.
In NM the Dick's don't sell any type of firearm or ammunition. ;D
did not read
cliffs notes?
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Regarding the weapon and ammo used by the scumbag in Texas. Should any 18 year old be able to walk in to any store that sells them and buy them?
Yes. They can get married, serve in the military (and be required to register for the draft), and vote. They've been driving a car since 16 (if not earlier). As stated above, the Virginia Tech shooter who killed 32 people used two hand guns. He was 23 and in college already for several years.
Would 21 matter? 25? 30?
As to "any 18 year old," remember it is already illegal for an 18 yr old felon, fugitive, alien, user or addict of controlled substances, or who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution; or subject to a domestic violence restraining order; or been convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence offense to buy a gun.
Perhaps those categories could be somehow expanded without limiting a law abiding 18 year old's ability to protect himself or his family, but it doesn't seem like any such expansion would have helped here where all the red flags were clearly ignored for years.
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Regarding the weapon and ammo used by the scumbag in Texas. Should any 18 year old be able to walk in to any store that sells them and buy them?
Yes, the Second Amendment allows it with contingencies from state to state. if you’re referring to Texas, an 18 year old can purchase a long gun but not a pistol until he/she is 21. The law regarding the purchase of a long gun at 18 in Texas has been around for more than 60 years with little to no problems.
https://guides.sll.texas.gov/gun-laws/background-checks
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I read a post by a gentleman who was outraged about the school shooting, and expressed anxiety about his own elementary school age son's safety (guy's a liberal) and he goes on a rant and says that this doesn't happen in other countries and why do we allow it to happen here In USA guns etc etc.
I'm like - then why do you take that risk every day with your son's life? Are you crazy? Why don't you move to one of these other countries where you can feel safer?
He obviously would not risk his son's life if he felt there was a true danger, it goes without saying.
What is it with these people?
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If only there were some way that the government could identify the violent people and lock them up before they committed the crime. Sound good?
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/blood-hands-democrats-introduced-bill-get-police-schools-despite-slaughtered-children-video/
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If only there were some way that the government could identify the violent people and lock them up before they committed the crime. Sound good?
Like the movie minority report
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This is a very difficult situation for me. I grew up in the country and have been shooting guns since i was 6 years old. The way i was raised it was unheard of for anyone to disrespect a gun or use them in a negative way. Country dudes would beat the shit out of each other, but never pull a gun. Most of our dad's didn't even lock up their guns, my dad had a dozen rifles and shotguns in his closet, boxes of ammo on the top shelf. Nobody EVER dreamed of even touching them.
I think times have changed. As a red blooded American and far right leaning Libertarian, i believe in freedom of just about everything. But the subject of access to guns does bother me.
Should it be more difficult to buy a firearm? I think so.
I've met so many fucked up people who did terrible things in my life. I've known guys who have shot people and my best friend from High School robbed a bank, ran from cops, shot at cops and was arrested after he ran out of ammo. This guy was the quietest and nerdy guy around. But he met some bad people and a few years later became a bad person.
I think that this subject is very difficult for many, and it is for me. While i own more firearms (and other goodies) than i'd care to admit, 90% of them are for hunting or sport shooting. At the end of the day it isn't people like me and Coach committing these crimes.
But what are the limits of regulation? I'm against regulation of everything. But this is for people like me and others, who have never crossed any lines and follow the rules. In my entire life, even while under the influence of acid/alcohol/whatever, i've never once even "thought" about doing something dangerous with a gun, they are not toys. I used to carry a gun 24/7 when i lived in Houston and it wasn't because of people like Coach, it's the pieces of shit who have no soul. I've seen shootouts and i've had my life threatened before.
So how do we regulate the shit stains? This to me is so complex and i know that any further regulation will hurt people like me before it hurts the bad guy. Shit, i can buy an AK-47 from Mexico that has no numbers for a few hundred dollars. I can buy it this weekend if i want to. You just need to know the right guy and trust me they are very easy to find.
I won't give an answer to how "I" believe it should work, as i am very conflicted. Felons can't own a firearm, but they all have them and continue to use them for bad deeds.
Do we trust the government to have the "ability" to even regulate them? They seem to suck at regulating everything else.
What regulation has worked? How has the war on drugs worked out?
I won't comment on the Cops actions, they have rules to follow. Having the parents rush in there would have absolutely made things worse. But if my kid was in there, i'd be sneaking in that fucking school like John Rambo, quietly and quickly. I would have a serious hard time not going in, as i probably have more training than those Cops on scene.
In NM the Dick's don't sell any type of firearm or ammunition. ;D
As usual you provide a thoughtful and well reasoned response. I appreciate that as well as you not attacking me or getting hysterical. Thank you.
The war on drugs is a fucking joke. That is more about incarcerating people than it is regulation.
I think the FDA does some good work. We have a pretty safe food and water supply. Flint, Michigan not withstanding.
I think the FAA does a pretty good job (9/11 not withstanding) of keeping us safe.
I think our system for how one can obtain a drivers license is for the most part pretty fair and reasonable. I think a similar approach to guns could work. Maybe if you are between 18 and 21 you have to go through a set number of safety classes, competency exams and have some restrictions. Once you are 21 and can prove that you are competent and pass a reasonable exam then you are good to go. Is anything going to make it go away entirely? No. But if something like this or anything for that matter can slow it down, save some lives, then I am all for it. I've see recent studies that indicate boys brains aren't fully developed til around age 25. Someone who does fucked up things at 18 may not do them at 21, 25, etc.
Why is it that I always hear Republicans suggest it's a mental health issue? I happen to agree that mental health plays a huge role. My problem is that Gov. Abbott in true Republican form slashed a couple hundred million from the budget that supported mental health. We can't have it both ways, right?
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you dont sacrifice the majority
for the minority
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As usual you provide a thoughtful and well reasoned response. I appreciate that as well as you not attacking me or getting hysterical. Thank you.
The war on drugs is a fucking joke. That is more about incarcerating people than it is regulation.
I think the FDA does some good work. We have a pretty safe food and water supply. Flint, Michigan not withstanding.
I think the FAA does a pretty good job (9/11 not withstanding) of keeping us safe.
I think our system for how one can obtain a drivers license is for the most part pretty fair and reasonable. I think a similar approach to guns could work. Maybe if you are between 18 and 21 you have to go through a set number of safety classes, competency exams and have some restrictions. Once you are 21 and can prove that you are competent and pass a reasonable exam then you are good to go. Is anything going to make it go away entirely? No. But if something like this or anything for that matter can slow it down, save some lives, then I am all for it. I've see recent studies that indicate boys brains aren't fully developed til around age 25. Someone who does fucked up things at 18 may not do them at 21, 25, etc.
Why is it that I always hear Republicans suggest it's a mental health issue? I happen to agree that mental health plays a huge role. My problem is that Gov. Abbott in true Republican form slashed a couple hundred million from the budget that supported mental health. We can't have it both ways, right?
Read the article I posted above
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/democratic-hypocrite-chuck-schumer-blocks-school-safety-legislation-texas-shooting/
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There are 400 million guns in the US. You might as well be proposing force fields or teleportation of police officers.
Regulate everything except the drugs and depravity pushed by liberals. You liars locked down society and closed schools for 2 years now the mental health issues are rampant. 105,000 drug ODs last year and it keeps going up.
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Read the article I posted above
I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. I wish we didn't have any reason to even think there is a need for police or armed guards at our schools. I also wish that the relationship between the black community and police was as at least as good as it is with other communities. I think we as a country should tackle both issues along with firearm safety. I did finally read your article. It seems pretty cut and dry but like you have credibility issues with CNN and other main stream news outlets, I have the same issues with Gateway Pundit and the like.
Defund the police was a fucking retarded slogan. I think it should be re-funded at a higher level with more specialty divisions as well. I think having a police presence in schools could be a wonderful opportunity for police to get to know black children and where they come from and in turn send these kids out into the world with a much more positive view of law enforcement. Community policing would help too.
At the end of the day an all hands on deck approach is the only way to get things done. To get this country from being an embarrassment as to how violent we appear to the rest of the world. I don't have all the answers but I'm willing to try anything at this point so that some day a week, month or hopefully years go by without seeing horrific carnage like this week.
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There are 400 million guns in the US. You might as well be proposing force fields or teleportation of police officers.
Regulate everything except the drugs and depravity pushed by liberals. You liars locked down society and closed schools for 2 years now the mental health issues are rampant. 105,000 drug ODs last year and it keeps going up.
You sound more interested in name calling and fighting than solving problems. Unfortunately, that won't save lives and will continue to make people of good will on both sides appear farther and farther apart.
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You sound more interested in name calling and fighting than solving problems. Unfortunately, that won't save lives and will continue to make people of good will on both sides appear farther and farther apart.
You don't want to solve the problem, you want to feel good by pretending to do something that won't work.
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You don't want to solve the problem, you want to feel good by pretending to do something that won't work.
That's fair. Seeing children slaughtered and families/communities devastated is worth it to me as long as I feel I'm right. Keep proving my point.
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That's fair. Seeing children slaughtered and families/communities devastated is worth it to me as long as I feel I'm right. Keep proving my point.
How much mental health counseling could have been bought by the tens of billions wasted on the unnecessary Covid lockdowns and school closures? Or the border lawlessness leading to a flood of drugs and ODs? Guns have been around forever. Keep pushing the leftist bullshit that is wrecking the country.
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My only speculation is and this is just my opinion, they didn’t know exactly which room(s) he was barricaded in, possibly getting a layout of the school, entrances, exits, hallways and CQB plans, how many men to use in a CQB.
Hallways, room entrances are also known as “fatal funnels” meaning those are the most vulnerable areas for teams to go into.
Again, this is just my opinion trying to give them the benefit of the doubt
Even references the “fatal funnel”
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I read a post by a gentleman who was outraged about the school shooting, and expressed anxiety about his own elementary school age son's safety (guy's a liberal) and he goes on a rant and says that this doesn't happen in other countries and why do we allow it to happen here In USA guns etc etc.
I'm like - then why do you take that risk every day with your son's life? Are you crazy? Why don't you move to one of these other countries where you can feel safer?
He obviously would not risk his son's life if he felt there was a true danger, it goes without saying.
What is it with these people?
Yes, he should move somewhere safe, like Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, or the Ukraine.
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https://www.fbi.gov/about/partnerships/office-of-partner-engagement/active-shooter-incidents-graphics
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There's no way I couldn't post this here
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Even references the “fatal funnel”
Coach, this is pathetic. The cops -- who are not your friends, by the way -- fucked up bigtime. They are sniveling cowards. Period.
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who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine". Insignificant to the discussion at hand.
One of my cousins is a retired FDNY Lieutenant. He once gave me a tour of his house (station) and showed me a bunch of equipment on the trucks and described them and their uses in detail.
The subject of guns arose and he essentially put his fingers in his ears and said, “I can’t hear you,” because he was so anti-gun. A most curious elision.
If the differences between an assault rifle and a semiautomatic rifle (or semiautomatic handgun, for that matter) mean nothing, so be it.
Some people just don’t wanna know.
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Sorry no you dont get to spend 10 minutes discussing your options outside with a dozen other armed officers while kids are being shot in a school you go in immediately no excuse
FUCK THE POLICE
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Coach, this is pathetic. The cops -- who are not your friends, by the way -- fucked up bigtime. They are sniveling cowards. Period.
yes disappointing to see Coach so horny for the Boys in Blue
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You aren't going to stop it. Most of these people are trying to prove a point/agenda, and almost all of them are willing to die for the cause.
Unless you have airport type security to get in to a school, then completely lock the school down once in session, these things will still happen.
Guns have nothing to do with it. It's the mental state of these people that are willing to murder for no reason. These are the new age serial killers and mass Murderors.
Nothing will stop someone from killing or attempting to kill, if they are motivated enough.
You could stab a teacher in the neck with a sharpened pencil. As a society we are getting desensitized to death.
When I was a kid, I remember that VHS tape series called 'Faces Of Death" was as taboo as you could get. Now, you can go watch a video of your favorite rapper getting gunned down in the street, or a poor lady getting a Call Of Duty style headshot in front of a supermarket.
The war zone has been brought to our doorsteps.
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Yes, he should move somewhere safe, like Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, or the Ukraine.
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My point is, if he "knows" it is not safe for his kid to go to school in the USA, and he knows other countries that are statistically safer, and his kid gets shot at school, then isn't he complicit in the crime? He didn't protect his kid! He willingly sent him into a dangerous situation.
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Whoa
https://notthebee.com/article/the-uvalde-shooter-let-off-shots-outside-the-school-for-12-minutes-before-entering (https://notthebee.com/article/the-uvalde-shooter-let-off-shots-outside-the-school-for-12-minutes-before-entering)
That school was stupid.
Shooter shooting outside for 12 minutes before entering the unlocked school door.
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You aren't going to stop it. Most of these people ate trying to prove a point/agenda, and almost all of them are willing to die for the cause.
Unless you have airport type security to get in to a school, then completely lock the school down once in session, these things will still happen.
Guns have nothing to do with it. It's the mental state of these people that are willing to murder for no reason. These are the new age serial killers and mass Murderors.
Nothing will stop someone from killing or attempting to kill, if they are motivated enough.
You could stab a teacher in the neck with a sharpened pencil. As a society we are getting desensitized to death.
When I was a kid, I remember that VHS tape series called 'Faces Of Death" was as taboo as you could get. Now, you can go watch a video of your favorite rapper getting gunned down in the street, or a poor lady getting a Call Of Duty style headshot in front of a supermarket.
The war zone has been brought to our doorsteps.
Exactly this...
I get it, most people want to blame the gun. I dont hear too much in the news about how fucked up society has become.
Actually, they try to promote mental-illness people as "normal" (Trannies, non-genders, pregnant men, etc).
Of course the tool being used (gun) is part of this, but as said, if no such thing, they would torch the school with all inside, molotovs, etc. (Trucks w/ fertilizer, bombs, etc).
I fully support strict background checks and other methods, but bad-guys will get illegal guns when they can.
Also, how many times have background checks failed? Many, dumb-ass humans making mistakes, cutting corners, etc.
People and society are the problem. The media, the woke-left trying to promote mental illness as something else (normal) they can take some blame here.
Many mass shooters are on depression drugs, SSRI's, etc. Big pharma and corrupt system can also take some blame.
There can be a lot to point at, however libz always go right to the tools being used, not the retard who used them, and the reason. (Mentally deranged fuck-ups).
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Officers waited for back-up during Texas school shooting because ‘they could’ve been shot’: lieutenant
https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/texas-cops-feared-getting-shot-during-uvalde-school-shooting-lieutenant/
A Texas state police official said officers outside the Uvalde school where a gunman slaughtered 19 fourth-graders and two teachers Tuesday waited for backup to engage the shooter because they feared “they could’ve been shot.”
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Officers waited for back-up during Texas school shooting because ‘they could’ve been shot’: lieutenant
https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/texas-cops-feared-getting-shot-during-uvalde-school-shooting-lieutenant/
A Texas state police official said officers outside the Uvalde school where a gunman slaughtered 19 fourth-graders and two teachers Tuesday waited for backup to engage the shooter because they feared “they could’ve been shot.”
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If true, then I don't agree with that. It's what they signed up for, and an elementary school is the single most important time to risk being shot to save kids.
This is also why I think cops should always have a partner. It's become too dangerous for lone cops to be in any situation alone.
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If true, then I don't agree with that. It's what they signed up for, and an elementary school is the single most important time to risk being shot to save kids.
This is also why I think cops should always have a partner. It's become too dangerous for lone cops to be in any situation alone.
it's also why the "put more cops in schools!" argument is silly. We had half a dozen or more kitted out cops on site and they failed to intervene. Fucking CBP had to save the day lol
Whats the point of these bloated police budgets, body armor, and fancy rifles if when it becomes time to use them, they just stand around? That money would have been better spent elsewhere, as it clearly failed to make a positive difference here.
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But Dems say no one needs guns...
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Coach, this is pathetic. The cops -- who are not your friends, by the way -- fucked up bigtime. They are sniveling cowards. Period.
Shut up asshole.
Ive never seen so many useless ignorant pieces of shit chime in on one thread that they know absolutely nothing about.
Stefaggo obviously an ignorant ho with a smelly twat but some of you other assholes are a true disappointment.
One of the cops lost his wife and his child in the school shooting. I suppose he was playing with his dick when they were getting murdered.
The cop who was shot in the head? A true sniveling coward. Also probably playing with his dick.
The cop who shot the gunmen? Yep. Playing with his dick. You guessed it. Total fucki g coward.
If only any of these men were brave enough to post on getbig.
LOL. You are such a dumb fucking girl.
All of your theories about the cops being coward are bullshit and have been thoroughly debunked. You're spreading disgusting rumours that you hezrd on twitter.
Your contributions here are nothing more than vile gossip.
Just like a bitch to gossip about shit he hesrd on twitter. You bitch ass motherfuckers offering your nonsensical tripe about these 'snivelinv cowards playing with their dicks' yall dont have an ounce of courage and would never ever do jack shit if put in anykind of situation that threatened anyone.
I hope the kind of pain these people are feeling comes to you someday. The cop who lost his wife and kid in the school and theirs cocksuckers like stefaggo just spewing stupidity into the world. I hope one day when the absolute weight of the world is on your shoulders and you are litteraly on the edge I hope some asshole you dont know, never met, comes along and pushes you over.
The irony of a keyboard gossiping bitch callinv these cops cowards. LOL. Alot of bitches in this thread that wouldnt do a fucking thing.
LOL. Fucking A. Ive seen it all. Guys typing on their keyboards calling guy taking gunfire cowards.
You know who's stopped about 75% of school shooting s? Ill give you a hint: you call them sniveling cowards. YeH the cops do. In fact with a few small exceptions , very rare instances, its always the cops that kill the fucker, capture the fucker, or track the fucker down in the rare occasions they stop shooting and lesve.
Who tge fuck else do you think responds to school shootings?
Oh let .me guess. Wait a minute. Still thinking. Who other than police deal with these things? Ill wait.......we should start sending bodybuilders in. Everyone knows how brave you have to be to yank a thong up your asd and prance on stage.
Ill wait for you to tell who the fuck else ends these shootings?
This other idiot going on about bloated police budgets. Whst fucking year do you think this is? Hahaha lol. Most major police departments have been defunded. And the results have been disasterous. What, were you living under a rock the past 2 years? LOL. You musf think its 1996.
The ammount of information a available about what a really really bad decision to cut police was is so abundantly clear. Places. Like Portland where the homicide rate is up 300:. Lol!
Yeah. Take cops out of schools because for the next school shooter we'll send in.....uh. who? Even though you dont want to hear it , it was still the cops that ended this and the fact is no one else will and as of now theres no plan B. Jackass.
Do me a favor and think just a little bit before you spew your ignorance onto a keyboard.
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Shut up asshole.
Ive never seen so many useless ignorant pieces of shit chime in on one thread that they know absolutely nothing about.
Stefaggo obviously an ignorant ho with a smelly twat but some of you other assholes are a true disappointment.
One of the cops lost his wife and his child in the school shooting. I suppose he was playing with his dick when they were getting murdered.
The cop who was shot in the head? A true sniveling coward. Also probably playing with his dick.
The cop who shot the gunmen? Yep. Playing with his dick. You guessed it. Total fucki g coward.
If only any of these men were brave enough to post on getbig.
LOL. You are such a dumb fucking girl.
All of your theories about the cops being coward are bullshit and have been thoroughly debunked. You're spreading disgusting rumours that you hezrd on twitter.
Your contributions here are nothing more than vile gossip.
Just like a bitch to gossip about shit he hesrd on twitter. You bitch ass motherfuckers offering your nonsensical tripe about these 'snivelinv cowards playing with their dicks' yall dont have an ounce of courage and would never ever do jack shit if put in anykind of situation that threatened anyone.
I hope the kind of pain these people are feeling comes to you someday. The cop who lost his wife and kid in the school and theirs cocksuckers like stefaggo just spewing stupidity into the world. I hope one day when the absolute weight of the world is on your shoulders and you are litteraly on the edge I hope some asshole you dont know, never met, comes along and pushes you over.
The irony of a keyboard gossiping bitch callinv these cops cowards. LOL. Alot of bitches in this thread that wouldnt do a fucking thing.
LOL. Fucking A. Ive seen it all. Guys typing on their keyboards calling guy taking gunfire cowards.
You know who's stopped about 75% of school shooting s? Ill give you a hint: you call them sniveling cowards. YeH the cops do. In fact with a few small exceptions , very rare instances, its always the cops that kill the fucker, capture the fucker, or track the fucker down in the rare occasions they stop shooting and lesve.
Who tge fuck else do you think responds to school shootings?
Oh let .me guess. Wait a minute. Still thinking. Who other than police deal with these things? Ill wait.......we should start sending bodybuilders in. Everyone knows how brave you have to be to yank a thong up your asd and prance on stage.
Ill wait for you to tell who the fuck else ends these shootings?
This other idiot going on about bloated police budgets. Whst fucking year do you think this is? Hahaha lol. Most major police departments have been defunded. And the results have been disasterous. What, were you living under a rock the past 2 years? LOL. You musf think its 1996.
The ammount of information a available about what a really really bad decision to cut police was is so abundantly clear. Places. Like Portland where the homicide rate is up 300:. Lol!
Yeah. Take cops out of schools because for the next school shooter we'll send in.....uh. who? Even though you dont want to hear it , it was still the cops that ended this and the fact is no one else will and as of now theres no plan B. Jackass.
Do me a favor and think just a little bit before you spew your ignorance onto a keyboard.
I tend to ignore cop haters like Stephano, etc
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We're not saying all cops are cowards...just these 40 cops who stood around for an hour+ wearing all the fancy guns and body armor playing with their dicks, waiting for REAL MEN to show up and save the kids.
So, Beak, are you a cop? If so I hope you wouldn't have stood around playing with your dick for an hour, handcuffing parents, like those cops in Uvalde did.
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I tend to ignore cop haters like Stephano, etc
Coach,
With all your pretend-commando-end-of-world training I hope you wouldn't have stood around for an hour playing with your dick while the kids were shot.
You could be a pretend-cop like Elvis, Lou Ferrigno or Steven Seagal.
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I used to do a lot of CQB, Coach. Done it on live operations - all the cool, movie-type stuff of sneaking up when it's dark, etc. It's not hard. You could even teach a Getbigger to do it. Yes, fatal funnels and all these buzzwords are relevant when you're first explaining concepts, but all it means is to be aware of running head-on into an entrance and getting gunned down. What are the fundamentals of CQB? Speed, surprise, and violence of action. Or, at least it was back when I did it.
Along with regular training we go twice a month on the weekends. Where we train live fire is set up with shoot houses. We will do 2, 3 and 5 man teams, flashbangs, smoke, etc. Our instructors are former Seals, Rangers, Special Ops and Swat Commanders. Been doing this consistently 3-5 days week for about the last 4 years. It’s one of those useful hobbies. That being said, I posted the video to I guess back one of my original posts. They should have entered sooner but from what I understand the closest tactical team (with equipment) was about an hour away. You probably know as well as I a regular patrol cop isn’t trained for this, usually the extent of their training after the Academy then hired on is a qualification shoot from 25 and 50 yards out every 6-12mos
You don't gather around whiteboards when kids are being shot. You get in a stack, if possible, and you go in. Especially in an active-shooter situation at a school - I'm not expecting to go up against Billy The Kid. I'm sure you agree. Still, I don't know what happened on the ground or what the situation was regarding the police that day as I've not read up on it and I'm not interested to. it's just a shit, tragic event. I'm merely venting my own opinion.
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Coach,
With all your pretend-commando-end-of-world training I hope you wouldn't have stood around for an hour playing with your dick while the kids were shot.
You could be a pretend-cop like Elvis, Lou Ferrigno or Steven Seagal.
I work in a school. No I wouldn’t hesitate. Not sure why you would call it “pretend” most out there can shoot a gun but they can’t SHOOT a gun if that makes sense. Sounds like I’m pissing some people off. I don’t apologize for this. I chose to start training like this to protect my family.
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I work in a school. No I wouldn’t hesitate. Not sure why you would call it “pretend” most out there can shoot a gun but they can’t SHOOT a gun if that makes sense. Sounds like I’m pissing some people off. I don’t apologize for this. I chose to start training like this to protect my family. How do you protect yours?
Not by walking carrying a sidearm in my gymbag. I don't live in Dodge City in the 1870s.
Like I said before, I used to carry on my job for years.
Are you a school security guard?
Hmm... Carrying a gun to the gym in your gym bag, practicing in shoot-houses, shooting 500 rounds a month at a range, etc.
Are you going on covert missions with the Navy Seals? Did they invite you to go along on the next mission?
Just creates paranoia in your mind.
Do you look around constantly in case someone might attack you and you have to shoot them? Can you quick draw fast enough?
How about a ankle holster for backup? Do you have one? I wore one.
You never know the perp might wrestle your primary away and you need that backup.
An extra pump shotgun for your car wouldn't hurt. Extra clips for an extended shootout.
Tactical knife. Be prepared!
Don't forget to learn unarmed self-defense. Quick and brutal techniques are best.
Keep your guns locked up so your kids don't get at them. Unfortunately, then you can't get at them either.
A relative of mine was a cop, kept his service revolver in the closet. His son killed himself with it. Very bad.
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Not by walking carrying a sidearm in my gymbag. I don't live in Dodge City in the 1870s.
Like I said before, I used to carry on my job for years.
Are you a school security guard?
Hmm... Carrying a gun to the gym in your gym bag, practicing in shoot-houses, shooting 500 rounds a month at a range, etc.
Are you going on covert missions with the Navy Seals? Did they invite you to go along on the next mission?
Just creates paranoia in your mind.
Do you look around constantly in case someone might attack you and you have to shoot them? Can you quick draw fast enough?
How about a ankle holster for backup? Do you have one? I wore one.
You never know the perp might wrestle your primary away and you need that backup.
An extra pump shotgun for your car wouldn't hurt. Extra clips for an extended shootout.
Tactical knife. Be prepared!
Don't forget to learn unarmed self-defense. Quick and brutal techniques are best.
Keep your guns locked up so your kids don't get at them. Unfortunately, then you can't get at them either.
A relative of mine was a cop, kept his service revolver in the closet. His son killed himself with it. Very bad.
No, I’m a coach. And it’s not being paranoid it’s being prepared. Most people don’t know what do if someone breaks in their home let alone in public
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They are not sending us their best
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Coach, I believe your intentions are both sincere and your heart is in the right place.
There is a lot of ignorance being posted on here, and I’m gonna start this post out by saying I fully support the police and the job that they do. The cowards that I called out, which it may or may not flesh out to be true, are the two people who supposedly engage this kid before he entered the school.
The rest of the cops were following their departments ill-advised procedures. The sheriff should be had to blame for that.
I think the main problem is, people have expectations of the police that are not based in the facts. Police exist to catch criminals, either in the act or after they have committed a crime. They are not there to prevent people from doing crimes. To do that, we would all have to give up our freedoms. As well as our rights to due process.
The reality is, in a free society, the only person that is ultimately responsible for your moment to moment personal safety- is YOU. This is why the second amendment was so important in a free society. The police are not going to be hanging out in your living room waiting for someone to kick in your front door and murder your family. That’s your job. And to do your job you should be allowed to possess the proper tools.
Guns are tools. Period. Automobiles are tools as well, and we are perfectly fine with allowing 60 to 70,000 people a year be killed on the highways (almost all of which are not suicides by the way). No one is politicking to remove your rights to travel in your vehicle as you see fit. No one has fitted cars with a device that forces you to drive the speed limit everywhere you go. There is a certain acceptance of the fact that some people are gonna die so that we can all be free to drive around the country as we see fit. There are a lot more guns in this country than there are cars on the road at any given point in time. Because we are free, and they cannot take away your rights until you have proven that you no longer deserve them, criminals will always be allowed to flourish in a free society right up to the point that they commit their crimes. This is just a fact that cannot be changed, ignored, or denied.
Since no one will ever be able to predict when someone will go suicidal and attempt to bring harm upon a school, the only way to stop schools from being shot up is to put security measures in place that would forcibly halt said perpetrator in his tracks as he attempted to do it. I believe many in our government are perfectly happy with this being nonexistent so they can use tragedies to gain power and take away rights from the masses. As you can see from this thread, there are plenty of Americans that would gladly lay down their freedoms just to be falsely told that they have some sense of security.
That’s not what America was founded on, and that’s not what Americans expect in their day-to-day lives. The police will never be able to protect you, but they will hopefully hunt down and bring justice to the person who kills you and your family. That’s the most you should ever expect for the police force in a free society.
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Not by walking carrying a sidearm in my gymbag. I don't live in Dodge City in the 1870s.
Like I said before, I used to carry on my job for years.
Are you a school security guard?
Hmm... Carrying a gun to the gym in your gym bag, practicing in shoot-houses, shooting 500 rounds a month at a range, etc.
Are you going on covert missions with the Navy Seals? Did they invite you to go along on the next mission?
Just creates paranoia in your mind.
Do you look around constantly in case someone might attack you and you have to shoot them? Can you quick draw fast enough?
How about a ankle holster for backup? Do you have one? I wore one.
You never know the perp might wrestle your primary away and you need that backup.
An extra pump shotgun for your car wouldn't hurt. Extra clips for an extended shootout.
Tactical knife. Be prepared!
Don't forget to learn unarmed self-defense. Quick and brutal techniques are best.
Keep your guns locked up so your kids don't get at them. Unfortunately, then you can't get at them either.
A relative of mine was a cop, kept his service revolver in the closet. His son killed himself with it. Very bad.
great postings. everyone thinks they are making their family safer by keeping a gun in the household but the odds do not support it
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Coach, I believe your intentions are both sincere and your heart is in the right place.
There is a lot of ignorance being posted on here, and I’m gonna start this post out by saying I fully support the police and the job that they do. The cowards that I called out, which it may or may not flesh out to be true, are the two people who supposedly engage this kid before he entered the school.
The rest of the cops were following their departments ill-advised procedures. The sheriff should be had to blame for that.
I think the main problem is, people have expectations of the police that are not based in the facts. Police exist to catch criminals, either in the act or after they have committed a crime. They are not there to prevent people from doing crimes. To do that, we would all have to give up our freedoms. As well as our rights to due process.
The reality is, in a free society, the only person that is ultimately responsible for your moment to moment personal safety- is YOU. This is why the second amendment was so important in a free society. The police are not going to be hanging out in your living room waiting for someone to kick in your front door and murder your family. That’s your job. And to do your job you should be allowed to possess the proper tools.
Guns are tools. Period. Automobiles are tools as well, and we are perfectly fine with allowing 60 to 70,000 people a year be killed on the highways (almost all of which are not suicides by the way). No one is politicking to remove your rights to travel in your vehicle as you see fit. No one has fitted cars with a device that forces you to drive the speed limit everywhere you go. There is a certain acceptance of the fact that some people are gonna die so that we can all be free to drive around the country as we see fit. There are a lot more guns in this country than there are cars on the road at any given point in time. Because we are free, and they cannot take away your rights until you have proven that you no longer deserve them, criminals will always be allowed to flourish in a free society right up to the point that they commit their crimes. This is just a fact that cannot be changed, ignored, or denied.
Since no one will ever be able to predict when someone will go suicidal and attempt to bring harm upon a school, the only way to stop schools from being shot up is to put security measures in place that would forcibly halt said perpetrator in his tracks as he attempted to do it. I believe many in our government are perfectly happy with this being nonexistent so they can use tragedies to gain power and take away rights from the masses. As you can see from this thread, there are plenty of Americans that would gladly lay down their freedoms just to be falsely told that they have some sense of security.
That’s not what America was founded on, and that’s not what Americans expect in their day-to-day lives. The police will never be able to protect you, but they will hopefully hunt down and bring justice to the person who kills you and your family. That’s the most you should ever expect for the police force in a free society.
This is a great post
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Sounds wonderful. So a small town with 28 cops becomes a small town with 88 cops. What could possibly go wrong?
You wouldn't even be preventing school shootings. (You'd arguably be causing more, and hastening the degradation and deracination of American society.) You would get more speeding tickets, though. And you'd be paying for all of those extra salaries.
Real dog-brained proposal.
Can I just applaud your judiciously employed vocabulary here - very nice work 8)
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/two-school-districts-st-louis-area-train-arm-teachers-prevent-possible-mass-shooting-attack/
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I used to do a lot of CQB, Coach. Done it on live operations - all the cool, movie-type stuff of sneaking up when it's dark, etc. It's not hard. You could even teach a Getbigger to do it. Yes, fatal funnels and all these buzzwords are relevant when you're first explaining concepts, but all it means is to be aware of running head-on into an entrance and getting gunned down. What are the fundamentals of CQB? Speed, surprise, and violence of action. Or, at least it was back when I did it.
You don't gather around whiteboards when kids are being shot. You get in a stack, if possible, and you go in. Especially in an active-shooter situation at a school - I'm not expecting to go up against Billy The Kid. I'm sure you agree. Still, I don't know what happened on the ground or what the situation was regarding the police that day as I've not read up on it and I'm not interested to. it's just a shit, tragic event. I'm merely venting my own opinion.
You can't tell an armchair commando like Qoach anything when it comes to stuff like this. He has already ran the pretend scenario over and over in his empty head on how he would have done things as a one man Rambo army. ::)
The cops fucked up. Worrying about what kind of weapon it is or is not is pointless when kids are being killed.
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I was busting on Coach a bit. Sorry about that, Coach.
Coach is one of the good guys and didn't deserve it.
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We're not saying all cops are cowards...just these 40 cops who stood around for an hour+ wearing all the fancy guns and body armor playing with their dicks, waiting for REAL MEN to show up and save the kids.
So, Beak, are you a cop? If so I hope you wouldn't have stood around playing with your dick for an hour, handcuffing parents, like those cops in Uvalde did.
No just a reasonable person with common sense. Theres a big difference between what you think you know from your computer screen and what actually happened. Abd actually being there.
Ive been in some shit. And i dont pass judgement on those who were actually there. I thought this is a lesson people here understood. But the selectivity of when the news or joe fucking blow on twitter is credible vs. Bullshit is not objective at all its subjective depending on what media you wish to hear. But the media doesn't Know what happened either. How many times has the story already morphed? Their all vying for the quickest most sensationalized story. And you gobble it up what is spit out.
You weren't there and you don't know. But you're awfully fucking quick to pass judgment. The most damning kind of judgement.
Yesterday you didn't know that of the cops there not only lost his wife but his child in the shooting and your appraisal of the cops were that they're cowards standing around in a circle jerk.
The filth and accusations about cowardice is fucking disgusting.
Reminds me of hippies spitting on vietnam vets. You just dont even know what the fuck you're talking about.
And if i tried to explain it you wouldn't believe it and if you did believe it you wouldn't understand it.
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Beak,
Apparently you haven't watched or read the first person accounts of the parents who watched the cops playing with their dicks.
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You can't tell an armchair commando like Qoach anything when it comes to stuff like this. He has already ran the pretend scenario over and over in his empty head on how he would have done things as a one man Rambo army. ::)
The cops fucked up. Worrying about what kind of weapon it is or is not is pointless when kids are being killed.
Start here
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Beak,
Apparently you haven't watched or read the first person accounts of the parents who watched the cops playing with their dicks.
They’re now saying that they didn’t break down the door because they thought the gunman was alone and not a danger.
CYA
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Start here
You here :
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You here :
Sticking your nose into more things you know absolutely nothing about makes you look more of an ass. But since you’re a hiding coward it doesn’t matter
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https://zeroeyes.com/do-gun-free-zones-make-us-safer/
According to a study from the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC), 89% of mass shootings between 1988 and 2019 occurred in gun-free zones. This evidence seems to suggest that gun-free zones just don’t work to keep people safe.
Why would that be? Simple. Because shooters look for easy targets. Most shooters don’t act on impulse. According to the FBI’s Study of Pre-Attack Behaviors of Active Shooters in the United States between 2000-2013, 88% of mass shootings are planned – it’s essentially premeditated murder. And in their planning, these bad actors look for easy targets where they can do maximum damage in the least amount of time.
When you put out a big sign that says “Gun-Free Zone,” this tells potential shooters that there will be no one in the area to stop them from killing as many people as they want. They know there will be no resistance.
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Obama forgets to grieve for all the civilians he murdered.
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Crims gonna crim:
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Sticking your nose into more things you know absolutely nothing about makes you look more of an ass. But since you’re a hiding coward it doesn’t matter
If you had been in charge of the response, you would still be out in the parking lot trying to beat him by posting from shit from Infowars or OAN.
Your response to this, or anything involving actual action is to attack it from the internet trenches.
You would have fucked up worse than the cops did.
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Emotions are understandably high.
Anyone surprised by someone being angered from watching this incident unfold knows nothing about human nature. I think it would be wise to allow everyone a little bit of lenience in their reactions.
Anyone who mocks a person that trains in effective gun use, is displaying extreme ignorance. Owning a gun and not training to become proficient with it is probably the worst thing you can do. You would be better off not owning a weapon at all. Since we live in houses, it’s not a bad idea to train in houses. If you live in a city, it would be good to be proficient in a firearm in a urban environment.
It is difficult for someone who has a reasonable amount of knowledge about firearms, to listen to people who obviously know nothing about them profess how they believe they should be regulated or handled. If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, you should speak from a position of knowledge.
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This has nothing to do with guns. People kill people not guns. Acts like this will continue far into the future.
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As usual you provide a thoughtful and well reasoned response. I appreciate that as well as you not attacking me or getting hysterical. Thank you.
The war on drugs is a fucking joke. That is more about incarcerating people than it is regulation.
I think the FDA does some good work. We have a pretty safe food and water supply. Flint, Michigan not withstanding.
I think the FAA does a pretty good job (9/11 not withstanding) of keeping us safe.
I think our system for how one can obtain a drivers license is for the most part pretty fair and reasonable. I think a similar approach to guns could work. Maybe if you are between 18 and 21 you have to go through a set number of safety classes, competency exams and have some restrictions. Once you are 21 and can prove that you are competent and pass a reasonable exam then you are good to go. Is anything going to make it go away entirely? No. But if something like this or anything for that matter can slow it down, save some lives, then I am all for it. I've see recent studies that indicate boys brains aren't fully developed til around age 25. Someone who does fucked up things at 18 may not do them at 21, 25, etc.
Why is it that I always hear Republicans suggest it's a mental health issue? I happen to agree that mental health plays a huge role. My problem is that Gov. Abbott in true Republican form slashed a couple hundred million from the budget that supported mental health. We can't have it both ways, right?
No worries my dude!
I'm always open for a gentlemen's debate.
I used the War on Drugs as an example because that's how i see this playing out. The FAA/FDA and many other government programs have their ups and downs, but to be fair i don't think they are an example of what i have in mind. They are going to retroactively regulate guns, or at least that's what people want, and i don't see that happening. It's impossible for them to backtrack, but i do believe that having a better training program will help, yet not much.
When i started hunting i had to take a Hunter's Safety Course before i could get a hunting license, as i was only 14 years old. You learn a lot from programs like this and believe proper training helps. I have a LTC in three different states and have spent most of my life around firearms in one way or another.
I know a lot of people who don't have a valid DL. I've been in a car accident 3 times in the last 10 years with people who didn't have a DL or insurance, one of the guys was in his 50's and had never had a DL. So again i don't think some government regulation is really going to help. But i will agree with you more or less.
The problem i have is that added training/regulations will not change the bad guys from doing bad things. Guns are pretty much banned in Mexico and it is heavily enforced, yet you have guys rolling around with all kinds of guns because Cartels don't follow the rules. Same thing IMO applies here, i don't understand how more regulations is going to prevent bad people from doing these things, it will make firearms harder to obtain, which may give the crazy person some time to change his mind. But if someone wants to shoot up a school, they are going to do it.
I do think having better training and tracking of firearms is a good idea. But the fatal flaw is how far are we wanting the government to have control? Once they gain an inch, they will take a mile. So for me it's conflicting because i don't want any of our freedoms taken away, regardless of a school getting shot up or not.
My thought is that we should have better security. Think about everywhere you go, there are armed security or off-duty Cops. Walmart even has City PD sitting out front where i live. Dispensaries too, banks, colleges, etc. All these places typically have armed security. The local Mall here has like 5 City PD that drive around and walk through the Mall at all times. The parking lot there is considered one of the safest places to leave a vehicle, so they sectioned off an area to use for car pooling.
Why not schools?
Better yet, WE the people should take control of our children's lives. Volunteer to sit out front of your child's school once a week and have a schedule with other people. We had this in Texas back in the 80's. Country folks would take matters into their own hands. Now this creates complicated logistics too, as you don't want you local Karen/Kyle sitting in front of a school causing problems. There can easily be a school program to have this implemented in a matter of weeks/months. I'm not talking about having these volunteers armed to the teeth, just having a presence and radios for communication. Something weird happens you can lock down an entire school in less than a minute or two.
The best prevention is NOT allowing them access inside the school. The exact same way they handled Covid. Pretty much all businesses here had people standing at the entrance to check your temp and force you to use hand sanitizer. Many places had Cops there too in order enforce masks. The local University here had Cops standing at all entrances to events for months, if you didn't have a mask they escorted you out.
Having parents or security present is a huge deterrent in crime. But again, this will still not stop these things from happening.
There was a guy yesterday in Texas, a big swole (BBing related) kneegrow, standing at the entrance to his child's school, he wasn't armed, but his presence is enough to make people think twice. Imagine if all of our schools had 4-5 volunteers per day monitoring the campus.
Why aren't are schools being protected? That is THE fastest AND easiest way to help prevent this. The government give billions of money to foreign countries for stupid things. Why not protect our kids?
Where i live and have lived in the past, we have a local group of people that take turns driving around the neighborhood during the day and night, looking for suspicious activity. These civilian watch programs work amazing with real results. Sometimes the best defense is just the presence of humans, even if they are not armed.
But at the end of the day, these things will always happen, it will never stop. You can ban guns 100% and it won't stop anything like this from happening.
As far as Gov Abbott, i was born in Texas and lived there most of my life. I think he has done some good things, but i have no idea why he slashed the mental health budget. So i can't comment on that.
My personal opinion is that America has become more comfortable with violence, movies, video games, etc. A lot of younger people don't value life as much as we did 50+ years ago. I think it's a very deeply rooted issue that has no real answer.
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They’re now saying that they didn’t break down the door because they thought the gunman was alone and not a danger.
CYA
WHOA WHOA WHOA, it was a HIGH RISK ENVIRONMENT. They needed their HIGH RISK TEAMS to approach!
Back the blue bud.
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Top Texas cop admits cops botched Uvalde school response: ‘Wrong decision, period’
https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/texas-school-shooter-got-in-through-door-propped-open-by-teacher/
“With the benefit of hindsight, where I’m sitting now, of course it was not the right decision, it was the wrong decision, period,” McCraw said.
“There was no excuse for that.”
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Beak,
Apparently you haven't watched or read the first person accounts of the parents who watched the cops playing with their dicks.
Yep. And you know what. Sticking a microphone in some ones face minutes after their baby was senselessly slaughtered is guaranteed to get you a rational, well thought out, objective response.
If i lost my child under those circumstances and a news reporter asked me how i felt id probably shove their microphone up their asshole. And i certainly wouldn't stand around talk about what a great job the cops did. Id probably lash out at everybody. If i lost my children under any circumstances, violence, accident, medical, poor health, Id be fucking beyond reasonable and id want someone, anyone, to pay- with blood if necessary. Including the people who showed up to help.
Last I checked none of those parents are on this forum. Just a bunch of keyboard, know it all, warriors, saving lives and taking down gunmen from their computer monitor.
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Yep. And you know what. Sticking a microphone in some ones face minutes after their baby was senselessly slaughtered is guaranteed to get you a rational, well thought out, objective response.
If i lost my child under those circumstances and a news reporter asked me how i felt id probably shove their microphone up their asshole. And i certainly wouldn't stand around talk about what a great job the cops did. Id probably lash out at everybody. If i lost my children under any circumstances, violence, accident, medical, poor health, Id be fucking beyond reasonable and id want someone, anyone, to pay- with blood if necessary. Including the people who showed up to help.
Last I checked none of those parents are on this forum. Just a bunch of keyboard, know it all, warriors, passing judgement from their computer monitor.
You have lost his debate bigtime, Beak.
Be a man and admit defeat.
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You have lost his debate bigtime, Beak.
Be a man and admit defeat.
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Nat, Your entire position comes from the standpoint of what you don't know. What you don't understand. Not some expertise, experience or technical knowledge but what you don't know. There is no debate. There's what actually happened and how these things play out. Then there's the vast world of difference between that reality of it and the assumptions of people who weren't there yet have a matter of fact opinion about it.
Hindsight is a cognitive bias that leads people to think that conditions were somehow more favorable in retrospect than they were at the time decisions were made and steps were taken.
Can we agree that a cop was shot in the head going in to challenge this guy.
Can we agree that it was a cop (border patrol agent- i know you like to be technical there) killed this guy.
Can we agree that at least one of those cops had family in the school. And at least one of those cops lost family in thzt school.
My interpretation is those cops showed up. Probably shit themselves. Some were maybe scared, some maybe froze, the vast majority of them tried to orient themselves to where the shots are comming from
(Which can be difficult because of the echo effect of the shooting. As sound travels it bounces off of walls and hall ways if shots are fired in a building. If you've been there you know)
Tried to do whatever they could Until they got to the shooter. First cop in takes a round to his dome. They're probably at a pinchpoint like a doorway so its actually limiting how many cops can challenge the shooter. At a point its counterproductive to have 40 cops standing at a doorway so Its likely that while theres a number of cops inside trying to stop this guy theres a bunch outside as well. So panick stricken parents outside are thinking 'why tge fuck aren't you inside!' Now, Those parents do have to be stopped from going in otherwise they'll be killed too. They're actually contributing to the chaos. So theres alot going on. Different pieces and most of those cops did what they could with what they knew and the weapons they had. Could they have done better? Maybe. Could the shooter have killed more people if not for the cops? Yes.
Your interpretation is: those cops are cowards playing with their dicks.
Pardon me for trying to get you think a little bit.
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Nat, Your entire position comes from the standpoint of what you don't know. What you don't understand. Not some expertise, experience or technical knowledge but what you don't know. There is no debate. There's what actually happened and how these things play out. Then there's the vast world of difference between that reality of it and the assumptions of people who weren't there yet have a matter of fact opinion about it.
Hindsight is a cognitive bias that leads people to think that conditions were somehow more favorable in retrospect than they were at the time decisions were made and steps were taken.
Can we agree that a cop was shot in the head going in to challenge this guy.
Can we agree that it was a cop (border patrol agent- i know you like to be technical there) killed this guy.
Can we agree that at least one of those cops had family in the school. And at least one of those cops lost family in thzt school.
My interpretation is those cops showed up. Probably shit themselves. Some were maybe scared, some maybe froze, the vast majority of them tried to orient themselves to where the shots are comming from
(Which can be difficult because of the echo effect of the shooting. As sound travels it bounces off of walls and hall ways if shots are fired in a building. If you've been there you know)
Tried to do whatever they could Until they got to the shooter. First cop in takes a round to his dome. They're probably at a pinchpoint like a doorway so its actually limiting how many cops can challenge the shooter. At a point its counterproductive to have 40 cops standing at a doorway so Its likely that while theres a number of cops inside trying to stop this guy theres a bunch outside as well. So panick stricken parents outside are thinking 'why tge fuck aren't you inside!' Now, Those parents do have to be stopped from going in otherwise they'll be killed too. They're actually contributing to the chaos. So theres alot going on. Different pieces and most of those cops did what they could with what they knew and the weapons they had. Could they have done better? Maybe. Could the shooter have killed more people if not for the cops? Yes.
Your interpretation is: those cops are cowards playing with their dicks.
Pardon me for trying to get you think a little bit.
Hahaha, at this point, this guy has got to be joking.
Beak, lemme ask you this: Are you a parody account?
T-they weren't cowards! They stood outside the school for an hour, cuffing and tazing parents, because there were echoes in the hallway and they couldn't figure out where the shooter was!
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Hahaha, at this point, this guy has got to be joking.
Beak, lemme ask you this: Are you a parody account?
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Stephanie, you're just a stupid ho, a special kind of small minded and petty. So blissfully free of the ravages of intelligent thought. Be gone bitch
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Police officers have no obligation to protect you......even if they are present and witness someone trying to murder you. They are allowed to just watch it happen.
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Police officers have no obligation to protect you......even if they are present and witness someone trying to murder you. They are allowed to just watch it happen.
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That's why you protect your family and yourself.
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That's why you protect your family and yourself.
True. Unless you’re in custody. If you’re a mental patient, arrested, in custody, there is a duty.
No duty to protect kids in school either since the law is weird in that they are in the custodial control of the school…yet it’s against the law if you don’t send your kid to school.
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That's why you protect your family and yourself.
Unless someone is in the process of smoking your kid at their school. Then the police will handcuff you if you attempt to save your child.
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Police officers have no obligation to protect you......even if they are present and witness someone trying to murder you. They are allowed to just watch it happen.
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At the start of the Rodney King riots in April 1992, the LAPD were overwhelmed near the flashpoint and retreated. “To protect and serve” meant nothing for several days. The National Guard and Marines had to take over.
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Never mind that the 2nd Amendment exists to protect the people from an oppressive authoritarian government. It's much bigger than just deer hunting and protecting yourself from your local gang of of street thugs.
All of a sudden I'm supposed to abandon my God-given and constitutionally protected rights because of Beto O'Rourke, Steve Kerr and their fake tears.
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Unless someone is in the process of smoking your kid at their school. Then the police will handcuff you if you attempt to save your child.
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I'm just saying in general.
I'd rather worry about legal fees than a funeral.
I wonder what would have happened if a civilian went full Rambo and cleared the school himself, without incident.
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I'm just saying in general.
I'd rather worry about legal fees than a funeral.
I wonder what would have happened if a civilian went full Rambo and cleared the school himself, without incident.
I'm with you 100%. I'm just pointing out that we continue to live in clown world.
If one of the dads cleared a school, neutralized the threat, and saved a bunch of kids lives I have no doubt that the authorities would still try to charge him with a crime.
Public outrage might be enough to get the charges dropped but probably not.
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I'm with you 100%. I'm just pointing out that we continue to live in clown world.
If one of the dads cleared a school, neutralized the threat, and saved a bunch of kids lives I have no doubt that the authorities would still try to charge him with a crime.
Public outrage might be enough to get the charges dropped but probably not.
This. They'd hate it if someone who is not a cop managed to do that and make the cops look even more cowardly and incompetent.
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make the cops look even more cowardly and incompetent.
they are doing pretty good job on their own
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That's why you protect your family and yourself.
Sounds cliché but this is why you're your own first responder
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Coach, I believe your intentions are both sincere and your heart is in the right place.
There is a lot of ignorance being posted on here, and I’m gonna start this post out by saying I fully support the police and the job that they do. The cowards that I called out, which it may or may not flesh out to be true, are the two people who supposedly engage this kid before he entered the school.
The rest of the cops were following their departments ill-advised procedures. The sheriff should be had to blame for that.
I think the main problem is, people have expectations of the police that are not based in the facts. Police exist to catch criminals, either in the act or after they have committed a crime. They are not there to prevent people from doing crimes. To do that, we would all have to give up our freedoms. As well as our rights to due process.
The reality is, in a free society, the only person that is ultimately responsible for your moment to moment personal safety- is YOU. This is why the second amendment was so important in a free society. The police are not going to be hanging out in your living room waiting for someone to kick in your front door and murder your family. That’s your job. And to do your job you should be allowed to possess the proper tools.
Guns are tools. Period. Automobiles are tools as well, and we are perfectly fine with allowing 60 to 70,000 people a year be killed on the highways (almost all of which are not suicides by the way). No one is politicking to remove your rights to travel in your vehicle as you see fit. No one has fitted cars with a device that forces you to drive the speed limit everywhere you go. There is a certain acceptance of the fact that some people are gonna die so that we can all be free to drive around the country as we see fit. There are a lot more guns in this country than there are cars on the road at any given point in time. Because we are free, and they cannot take away your rights until you have proven that you no longer deserve them, criminals will always be allowed to flourish in a free society right up to the point that they commit their crimes. This is just a fact that cannot be changed, ignored, or denied.
Since no one will ever be able to predict when someone will go suicidal and attempt to bring harm upon a school, the only way to stop schools from being shot up is to put security measures in place that would forcibly halt said perpetrator in his tracks as he attempted to do it. I believe many in our government are perfectly happy with this being nonexistent so they can use tragedies to gain power and take away rights from the masses. As you can see from this thread, there are plenty of Americans that would gladly lay down their freedoms just to be falsely told that they have some sense of security.
That’s not what America was founded on, and that’s not what Americans expect in their day-to-day lives. The police will never be able to protect you, but they will hopefully hunt down and bring justice to the person who kills you and your family. That’s the most you should ever expect for the police force in a free society.
Excellent post on the reality of a free society. The closeted and not so closeted Totalitarians here do not care about the free society principles you elucidate. Top notch!
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“Uvalde terrorist had newest iPhone, nice truck, expensive guns. But absent parents.”
https://twitter.com/cernovich/status/1530334847973019648?s=21&t=cDfxc9vz_R2mMC9X2NZe6A
$5,000 in rifles a $70,000 truck and of course what would an 18 year old do without body armor?
The lefties live in an idiotic dream world easily controlled, because at the end of the day that what they like.
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This is a lie. Proves once again you’re a fucking moron
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ChOak stinking up this thread even though he advocated for the unnecessary lockdown of millions of kids leading to massive mental illness problems (besides his own).
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This is a lie. Proves once again you’re a fucking moron
……and Coach gets owned again!
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……and Coach gets owned again!
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Lie.
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……and Coach gets owned again!
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Hey fuckface. I watch the entire conference live. It was stated that over 25% in attendance were carrying. Texas is a Constitutional Carry state in addition. More if your ignorance
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So true.
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Makes no sense. ???
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Here is leftist Ethan Klein openly talking about bombing the NRA convention.
Terrorist much?
When your genocidal parents brainwash you into believing all other tribes have inferior souls.
https://twitter.com/realDaveReilly/status/1530401983139434496 (https://twitter.com/realDaveReilly/status/1530401983139434496)
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The “future of America” according to Trump.
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So true.
Oak you always pop up like a bad penny. I guess you miss the beating you took on the covid jab and now want to lose about gun control?
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Oak you always pop up like a bad penny. I guess you miss the beating you took on the covid jab and now want to lose about gun control?
LOL
I must have missed that “beating”.
Not much to debate about gun control.
Every person with half a brain knows guns should be banned.
This will never happen of course because ALL of the politicians have been paid off by the NRA.
Hope this helps.
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"guns should be banned" - ChOak, speaking for all Totalitarian Leftists.
There you go.
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LOL
I must have missed that “beating”.
Not much to debate about gun control.
Every person with half a brain knows guns should be banned.
This will never happen of course because ALL of the politicians have been paid off by the NRA.
Hope this helps.
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Problem is you ban guns in the states now and you are not really banning guns, just stopping law abidding citizenry owning guns. There will still be 250 million guns out there for the non law abidding to have and terrorize people with. Also, you got smashed on covid go reread the threads, it's funny to see you getting skull fucked from all angles.
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Problem is you ban guns in the states now and you are not really banning guns, just stopping law abidding citizenry owning guns. There will still be 250 million guns out there for the non law abidding to have and terrorize people with. Also, you got smashed on covid go reread the threads, it's funny to see you getting skull fucked from all angles.
Doesn’t believe in banning guns because it takes away people freedoms plus “people will use them anyways”.
Wants to ban abortion.
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Problem is you ban guns in the states now and you are not really banning guns, just stopping law abidding citizenry owning guns. There will still be 250 million guns out there for the non law abidding to have and terrorize people with. Also, you got smashed on covid go reread the threads, it's funny to see you getting skull fucked from all angles.
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Problem is you ban guns in the states now and you are not really banning guns, just stopping law abidding citizenry owning guns. There will still be 250 million guns out there for the non law abidding to have and terrorize people with. Also, you got smashed on covid go reread the threads, it's funny to see you getting skull fucked from all angles.
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Problem is you ban guns in the states now and you are not really banning guns, just stopping law abidding citizenry owning guns. There will still be 250 million guns out there for the non law abidding to have and terrorize people with. Also, you got smashed on covid go reread the threads, it's funny to see you getting skull fucked from all angles.
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Problem is you ban guns in the states now and you are not really banning guns, just stopping law abidding citizenry owning guns. There will still be 250 million guns out there for the non law abidding to have and terrorize people with. Also, you got smashed on covid go reread the threads, it's funny to see you getting skull fucked from all angles.
There must be over one billion guns in the hands of Americans. I know guys with dozens… some guys have over one hundred guns. Guns are everywhere in America.
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Is it really that hard to google the first words of the shit you post to make sure it isn't made up? ::)
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There wasn't any prior either you dumb shit.
Banning and eradicating something 20 years ago on an island is completely different than accomplishing that now. Just fucking think!
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One is a matter of intent. Or can't you see that.
Fucking NRA doesn't have anything to do with abortions
Nor did it have anything at all to do with these shootings.
They're just a lobby.
Its like blaming the UAW for drunk driving deaths. Banning the big 3 from making cars.
Your argument is 100% nonsensical.
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You fucking jack ass cracker.
There's a law against Murder.
Are you aware of that?
Let me get this straight:
Someone who's willing to ignore the consequences of breaking the laws against murder is going to be deterred by an administrative law against owning a gun?
Since you're a fucking simp I'll answer for you. No. It won't
What will happen is all the law abiding citizens will comply with the law and disarm.
While people with no compunction about committing murder will conti ue to illegally obtain guns.
And when the next mass shooting happens the law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
Its fucking simple logic.
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There must be over one billion guns in the hands of Americans. I know guys with dozens… some guys have over one hundred guns. Guns are everywhere in America.
To confiscate all the guns, people like TrOak (the Troll Oak) would kick down your door, search your underwear and throw you and you family in camps. He's a scumbag fascist totalitarian commie.
Also, just a plain troll who should be banned. That's clearly why he's coming into this thread.
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One is a matter of intent. Or can't you see that.
Fucking NRA doesn't have anything to do with abortions
Nor did it have anything at all to do with these shootings.
They're just a lobby.
Its like blaming the UAW for drunk driving deaths. Banning the big 3 from making cars.
Your argument is 100% nonsensical.
What you’re saying makes perfect sense.
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Lmfao. Right on. Hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds.
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The Washington Post's Marc Fisher is spreading lies about AR-15s being invented by "nazis".
This is the same type of scumbag that said "nazis" made Jewish lampshades and soap in WW2, something every Jewish organization now admits never happened but used to spread as truth in order to smear all European people.
"Many supporters of the Second Amendment were quick to call out Mr. Fisher, and it was noted that the AR-15 was invented not by Nazi Germany but by Eugene Stoner, an American World War II veteran, at the Armalite Company, which was only founded after the war ended."
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Marc Fisher is a monster. He's sick.
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LOL
I must have missed that “beating”.
Not much to debate about gun control.
Every person with ONLY half a brain knows guns should be banned.
This will never happen of course because ALL of the politicians have been paid off by the NRA.
Hope this helps.
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People with zero brains give up their guns (Aussie) then get bullied by tyrannical govt.
Fuck off Oak..
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People with zero brains give up their guns (Aussie) then get bullied by tyrannical govt.
Fuck off Oak..
Great point!
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That's why you protect your family and yourself.
that doesnt mean you wont face potential legal consequences in doing so, regardless if the government is leftist or conservative
I would do the same as you buts its fucked up one can end up in prison or get killed by law enforcement
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I believe in 2nd ammendment
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After all of this backlash, anybody think one or two of the cops that did nothing will kill themselves?
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After all of this backlash, anybody think one or two of the cops that did nothing will kill themselves?
Did any of the cowards from Broward kill themselves? Some of them that got fired even got reinstated with back pay and benefits because of the cop union.
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You fucking jack ass cracker.
There's a law against Murder.
Are you aware of that?
Let me get this straight:
Someone who's willing to ignore the consequences of breaking the laws against murder is going to be deterred by an administrative law against owning a gun?
Since you're a fucking simp I'll answer for you. No. It won't
What will happen is all the law abiding citizens will comply with the law and disarm.
While people with no compunction about committing murder will conti ue to illegally obtain guns.
And when the next mass shooting happens the law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
Its fucking simple logic.
I tried to explain this to his bitch ass but he didn't understand and posted a lame pic that had nothing to do with what I said. You get more sense out of marty champions than oak.
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I tried to explain this to his bitch ass but he didn't understand and posted a lame pic that had nothing to do with what I said. You get more sense out of marty champions than oak.
oaks brain is wired differently, like a 1-watt bulb, he doesnt get common sense. He just supports the current thing...
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oaks brain is wired differently, like a 1-watt bulb, he doesnt get common sense. He just supports the current thing...
I am all for free speech and don't think oak should be banned just makes me aware of the level of stupidity possible in some human beings. Those pics of the robots having the different 'latest' chip inserted are so accurate for wackos like him.
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EVERY NRA member this weekend: “If Americans had more guns none of this would be happening.”
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EVERY NRA member this weekend: “If Americans had more guns none of this would be happening.”
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EVERY Democrat this weekend: "If we pass more laws and take guns away from law abiding citizens none of this would be happening."
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https://www.city-journal.org/school-shootings-horrific-but-statistically-rare
"“Why are we willing to live with this carnage?” Biden asked in his speech after the Uvalde killings, portraying them as the continuation of a decade of ceaseless slaughter by citing the “900 incidents of gunfire” on school grounds since 2012. But few students died in these incidents, which typically occurred outside the school building and often involved non-students going there after school hours. When Fox totals the number of students killed by any sort of gunfire at school in the past decade, including the victims in Uvalde, it works out to 10 deaths per year—among more than 50 million students. “Hundreds of children die every year in drowning accidents,” he says. “We need lifeguards at pools more than armed guards at schools.”"
Ban ChOak not guns.
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oaks brain is wired differently, like a 1-watt bulb, he doesnt get common sense. He just supports the current thing...
Hahahhaha. Excellent.
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You fucking jack ass cracker.
There's a law against Murder.
Are you aware of that?
Let me get this straight:
Someone who's willing to ignore the consequences of breaking the laws against murder is going to be deterred by an administrative law against owning a gun?
Libs always think the answer is more regulation and laws. We have the biggest government in the history of the world but that’s not enough.
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EVERY Democrat this weekend: "If we pass more laws and take guns away from law abiding citizens none of this would be happening."
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Every democrat this weekend seemingly forgetting that there are laws against murdering people thinking that creating a law against possessing a gun will fix the problem.
The democrats think they can fix everything by creating a new law. Only when those laws are broken they're the first to fault "the system: and hand out joke sentencing and talk about reform instead of punishment.
Black kid shoots a cop? Eh no big deal. Give him a 500 dollar bond then drop the charges. And dont hold the kid or the judge accountable.
This school shooting is a disgusting tragedy BUT what 20 to 30 people were killed or injured? A mass shooting is a statistical anomaly.
That many people will be killed in Chicago this week and every week for this entire year. Same for the past 40 years. Every fucking week. And no democrats give a flying fuck about changing or enforcing gun laws there.
Disgusting hypocrites.
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"Journalists are similarly deceptive when they call Uvalde the 27th “school shooting” of this year, or classify the spree in Buffalo as one of the hundreds of “mass shootings” in America annually. But these “mass shootings” typically don’t result in more than one death, if that, and the ones with multiple fatalities typically involve family disputes at home, gang conflict, or other criminal activity like drug dealing or robbery. They’re not random attacks like that in Buffalo, which meets Fox’s criteria for a “mass public shooting”: one in a public place with at least four fatalities and not related to domestic violence, gang conflict, or other crimes. On average, a half dozen of these occur annually. Mass public shootings at schools are much rarer: a total of 12 in the past 34 years."
Lying scumbag "journalists" use a fake news deliberately deceptive definition of "mass public shooting".
Read it: https://www.city-journal.org/school-shootings-horrific-but-statistically-rare
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"Journalists are similarly deceptive when they call Uvalde the 27th “school shooting” of this year, or classify the spree in Buffalo as one of the hundreds of “mass shootings” in America annually. But these “mass shootings” typically don’t result in more than one death, if that, and the ones with multiple fatalities typically involve family disputes at home, gang conflict, or other criminal activity like drug dealing or robbery. They’re not random attacks like that in Buffalo, which meets Fox’s criteria for a “mass public shooting”: one in a public place with at least four fatalities and not related to domestic violence, gang conflict, or other crimes. On average, a half dozen of these occur annually. Mass public shootings at schools are much rarer: a total of 12 in the past 34 years."
Lying scumbag "journalists" use a fake news deliberately deceptive definition of "mass public shooting".
Read it: https://www.city-journal.org/school-shootings-horrific-but-statistically-rare
What you say? The media lie? No way.
The media only lies if its something that is contrary to what I believe.
If its something that affirms my beliefs then its true. Every time.
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Forks don't make people fat
Pencils don't misspell words
Guns don't commit murder
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"Journalists are similarly deceptive when they call Uvalde the 27th “school shooting” of this year, or classify the spree in Buffalo as one of the hundreds of “mass shootings” in America annually. But these “mass shootings” typically don’t result in more than one death, if that, and the ones with multiple fatalities typically involve family disputes at home, gang conflict, or other criminal activity like drug dealing or robbery. They’re not random attacks like that in Buffalo, which meets Fox’s criteria for a “mass public shooting”: one in a public place with at least four fatalities and not related to domestic violence, gang conflict, or other crimes. On average, a half dozen of these occur annually. Mass public shootings at schools are much rarer: a total of 12 in the past 34 years."
Lying scumbag "journalists" use a fake news deliberately deceptive definition of "mass public shooting".
Read it: https://www.city-journal.org/school-shootings-horrific-but-statistically-rare
Not just Fox News, but also far-left mag Mother Jones uses that definition.
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More gun laws aren’t going to cure mental illness. That being said those were some slack ass cops. I’ve never seen a fireman standing outside a burning building because they were too scared to in. I guess that’s why there isn’t any Fuck The Fire Department songs out.
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Forks don't make people fat
Pencils don't misspell words
Guns don't commit murder
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Police worked hard to avoid parents from save their kids.
https://sports.yahoo.com/mother-handcuffed-outside-texas-school-202952406.html
Meanwhile:
https://www.yourtango.com/news/uvalde-police-officer-admits-cops-saved-their-kids-robb-elementary-before-stopping-shooter
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And Trump doing his little dance after giving his oh so so heartfelt little speech at the N.R.A. convention!
what a sick sociopath fuck!!...
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And Trump doing his little dance after giving his oh so so heartfelt little speech at the N.R.A. convention!
what a sick sociopath fuck!!...
Why does that make him a sociopath?
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beakdoctor.... dancing after a alleged somber event and remembrance of 21 people murdered!....
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This is what I've seen and read. I'm so paranoid about propaganda and misinformation that I'm not declaring it to be irrefutable fact yet, but I think this is what happened.
Local cops were allegedly on the scene for between 45 minutes to a fucking hour while the killer was in the school with the children. They spent more energy restraining the parents than they did stopping the massacre.
At a certain point an off-duty member of another law enforcement agency (border patrol I think) put his kit on and went to work. He engaged the killer and put his lights out. Took a round in the head but it was just a flesh wound. The dude looked like a Chuck Norris stunt double. May God bless him.
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And Trump doing his little dance after giving his oh so so heartfelt little speech at the N.R.A. convention!
what a sick sociopath fuck!!...
How about we talk about Robert Francis O’Roark and Obama…fuck, let’s go balls out and talk about the entire lefts fake narrative. You’re approaching OAK territory “Tom”
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beakdoctor.... dancing after a alleged somber event and remembrance of 21 people murdered!....
One has nothing to do with the other. Two totally unrelated events. You make it sound like he was dancing because of the tragedy.
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Can someone pleae just shoot OAK in his brainless head....the guy has to be trolling no one could be as fucked up as he is.....I HOPE.
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beakdoctor.... dancing after a alleged somber event and remembrance of 21 people murdered!....
Libturd alert, TDS libturd alert, wooo, woo, woo, wooo...
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This is a result of the Leftist Progs winning in the culture war.
Society, culture, morality, the family unit....all shattered.
This is the end result.
Have Fun.
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COME ON GYM-RAT! no matter what political party or political spectrum ANYONE IS AT....NO ONE, including a former president of any party, should be up there on a stage and dancing at such a somber and respectful moment!!!!!
It's called integrity, character, decency and empathy!..
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How about we require all people who have grades in the bottom 50%, drop out of high school, no dad present in the home, and a mom on drugs to speak to the cops or pass a test or register before they can buy a gun until they are 30? Maybe turn their cellphone over for a quick search too?
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COME ON GYM-RAT! no matter what political party or political spectrum ANYONE IS AT....NO ONE, including a former president of any party, should be up there on a stage and dancing at such a somber and respectful moment!!!!!
It's called integrity, character, decency and empathy!..
How about all the murders that take place every day in Chicago?? Please don’t pretend that that you care about the victims of gun violence in Chicago. Many people will die there today, and you won’t give a fuck.
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Royalty: 1) how does this change the fact that trump was dancing (which in itself is ridiculous for a former president to be doing on stage at a "important' event) in what is supposed to be serious contemplative moment...We are not talking about me or you, we are talking about a former president acting this way after a supposedly somber reflective speech...
2) chicago deaths are black on black crime and gangs....if they are bad people, yeah we shouldn't care all that much. How does this compare to innocent children being gunned down again??
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How about we require all people who have grades in the bottom 50%, drop out of high school, no dad present in the home, and a mom on drugs to speak to the cops or pass a test or register before they can buy a gun until they are 30? Maybe turn their cellphone over for a quick search too?
Or substitute "have been under psychiatric treatment or prescribed psychiatric meds for more than 6 months" for any of the factors above also.
There's your solution, but since it doesn't involve banning scary guns and doesn't whip up democrat votes nothing will happen, just like Sandy Hook.
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Tom/oak one in the same ???
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I'm kinda glad Howard came in here stinking up this thread also. The massive lies and manipulation on the gun statistics are very well established. Maybe it will make people realize that they did the same shit with Covid. Cherry-picking, suppressing, lying, censoring and bullying into a bullshit "consensus" (that by the way, killed and hurt far far more kids than any school shooter).
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Ideally nobody would have guns, not government either, but you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube so focus on other ways to prevent this stuff.
All of the other countries w little/no gun crime have universal health and mental health care, wonder if that’s related ?? ::)
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Ideally nobody would have guns, not government either, but you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube so focus on other ways to prevent this stuff.
All of the other countries w little/no gun crime have universal health and mental health care, wonder if that’s related ?? ::)
I don't know, do the countries with universal mental health care put people in institutional settings like we used to here before whenever it was in the 70s or 80s when it seems like they pushed them all out and all the homelessness started? Because the types of treatment we have now doesn't seem to be working at all.
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I don't know, do the countries with universal mental health care put people in institutional settings like we used to here before whenever it was in the 70s or 80s when it seems like they pushed them all out and all the homelessness started? Because the types of treatment we have now doesn't seem to be working at all.
"Uhhh, doctor, this guy doesn't have Instagram or Tik Tok profiles. He has a Facebook profile, but it hasn't been accessed since 2010. This raises major red flags.
"What's this? It says here that he has 11,000 posts on a site called GetBig, and spends eight hours per week spewing racial hatred on 4chan /pol/?
"I think that he's a clear and present danger. Can you sign off on the institutionalization order?"
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But is that a yes or a no? Do the European countries or other civilized paradises institutionalize people more? If it's free I would think so.
And I'm not advocating everyone who receives mental health treatment be institutionalized, far from it. But right now we have the obviously very seriously mentally ill sleeping and shitting on the streets. It's inhumane and evil and unChristian. And it's much worse since the Covid scam was pushed.
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Texas authorities told a mother of a Uvalde victim that her daughter may have lived if police acted sooner, local state senator says
Texas authorities told the mother of one Uvalde school shooting victim that her daughter may have survived if police entered the classroom sooner, a Texas state senator said on Sunday.
State Sen. Ronald Gutierrez, a Democrat who represents Uvalde, told CNN's "State of the Union" about the slain child, who was one of 19 school children and two teachers to be killed by the 18-year-old gunman on March 24.
"Mom told me that her child had been shot by one bullet through the back, through the kidney area," Gutierrez told CNN. "The first responder that they eventually talked to said that their child likely bled out. In that span of 30 or 40 minutes extra, that little girl might have lived."
In at least 12 instances, police have changed the narrative of how law enforcement reacted to the shooting.
"I have asked (the Department of Public Safety) at what point each one of their officers arrived. At what point does the local police take operational control, or should they? At what point does the next superior power, DPS, take operational control, or should they? And, lastly, the federal government, they waited some as well," Gutierrez said.
Local authorities initially claimed they responded "within minutes" to the shooting. By Wednesday, officials said roughly 40 minutes to an hour passed between the time the shooter entered the premises and when he was shot and killed by a Border Patrol agent. Authorities now say the gunman's rampage within the school lasted a total of 78 minutes.
https://www.insider.com/uvalde-mom-told-her-daughter-lived-if-police-acted-sooner-2022-5
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where are the bootlicking getbiggers defending the coward cops??
Federal agents who went to Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday to confront a gunman who killed 19 children were told by local police to wait and not enter the school — and then decided after about half an hour to ignore that initial guidance and find the shooter, say two senior federal law enforcement officials.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-agents-entered-uvalde-school-kill-gunman-local-police-initiall-rcna30941
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where are the bootlicking getbiggers defending the coward cops??
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-agents-entered-uvalde-school-kill-gunman-local-police-initiall-rcna30941
I dont lick boots asshole.
I also wasn't there. You and others have believed every different version of this that has been reported. You weren't there and you dont know but that doesn't stop you from jumping to the worst possible conclusions and rushing to the harshest judgement.
Making a bad decision or mishandling it is not the same thing as cowardice. You dont even know 1/4 of what happened only what you've seen on your idiot box. How apropos considering your a fucking idiot.
Yeah. Next time just stand down and let the parents run in to the school. See how much worse shit would've been. The parents complicated the situation a hundred fold.
Youve been accusing the Uvalde police of arresting and tasing parents. That was the marshals. Just one of the many things you dont know.
Two cops were shot going in for this guy. They're cowards too. Let me guess you eat lead for breakfsst 'Proud Virgin' just a flesh wound. Shake it off coward.
You know who's screaming real loud about these cops being cowards every radical leftist tranny and junkie. So you're in good company.
Think about this one of those cops wife and kids were killed in that building and you're spewing ignorance and vile stupidity about him. Fuck you. From the bottom of my heart you're a real piece of shit and id love to knock your dick in the dirt, if you have one virgin loser.
This story everyone is telling about the border agent running past the uvalde police and endi g it is bullshit. An entire tacticsl team of boarder agents went in after they got a shield. They needed a shield because the first cops that went were shot.
You think its so wasy and you don't know shit. The irony of some guy sitting behind a keyboard calling cops taking gunfire cowards. Keep reading and believing everything you find on the internet. You'll have better luck trying to find your dick.
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I dont lick boots asshole.
I also wasn't there. You and others have believed every different version of this that has been reported. You weren't there and you dont know but that doesn't stop you from jumping to the worst possible conclusions and rushing to the harshest judgement.
Making a bad decision or mishandling it is not the same thing as cowardice. You dont even know 1/4 of what happened only what you've seen on your idiot box. How apropos considering your a fucking idiot.
Yeah. Next time just stand down and let the parents run in to the school. See how much worse shit would've been. The parents complicated the situation a hundred fold.
Youve been accusing the Uvalde police of arresting and tasing parents. That was the marshals. Just one of the many things you dont know.
Two cops were shot going in for this guy. They're cowards too. Let me guess you eat lead for breakfsst 'Proud Virgin' just a flesh wound. Shake it off coward.
You know who's screaming real loud about these cops being cowards every radical leftist tranny and junkie. So you're in good company.
Think about this one of those cops wife and kids were killed in that building and you're spewing ignorance and vile stupidity about him. Fuck you. From the bottom of my heart you're a real piece of shit and id love to knock your dick in the dirt, if you have one virgin loser.
This story everyone is telling about the border agent running past the uvalde police and endi g it is bullshit. An entire tacticsl team of boarder agents went in after they got a shield. They needed a shield because the first cops that went were shot.
You think its so wasy and you don't know shit. The irony of some guy sitting behind a keyboard calling cops taking gunfire cowards. Keep reading and believing everything you find on the internet. You'll have better luck trying to find your dick.
You’re supporting the Uvalde police?
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Beakdoctor is extremely vested in defending the police and their lack of action while children were executed.
Why do you hate kids, beak?
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This is a result of the Leftist Progs winning in the culture war.
Society, culture, morality, the family unit....all shattered.
This is the end result.
Have Fun.
It’s going to backfire. It ALWAYS does. The only places than buy into this culture war BS are in the Dem ran states, cities, counties and school districts.
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Haven’t been following in this thread that much since kinda early on but glancing through and seeing who’s comparing other countries to us…..personally I couldn’t give a shit about other countries or how their laws are set up or what their stats are. It’s irrelevant. We need to stop doing debt like that and concentrate on those who knows what the solutions are but refuse to make it happen. Those people need to go!
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The leftist seeks totalitarianism and seven-figure body counts while pretending to care about the children that many of them are now willing to kill even minutes before and after their births.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpvWv9JH/FT3w-L-GWAAEz-R7c.jpg)
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Two cops were shot going in for this guy. They're cowards too. Let me guess you eat lead for breakfsst 'Proud Virgin' just a flesh wound. Shake it off coward.
That literally is the fucking job.. Its like being soldier. You run straight into enemy fire and if you die you die. Every single cop there should have been shot trying to get to the kids and eliminate that psycho. That is why the government forcefully steals money from our paychecks and tax everything from underwear to bottled drinking water to fund their bloated pensions and overtime. It is the reason society holds them in such high esteem because we believe they have made the extremely difficult decision to willingly lay down their lives in service of the greater good, defending the defenseless.
Nobody is drafting them. They volunteer for the job.
They stood around while little children were being executed and bleeding out. Anybody even putting up a defense for those craven pieces of shit is just as bad in my opinion. Actually worse.
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That literally is the fucking job.. Its like being soldier. You run straight into enemy fire and if you die you die. Every single cop there should have been shot trying to get to the kids and eliminate that psycho. That is why the government forcefully steals money from our paychecks and tax everything from underwear to bottled drinking water to fund their bloated pensions and overtime. It is the reason society holds them in such high esteem because we believe they have made the extremely difficult decision to willingly lay down their lives in service of the greater good, defending the defenseless.
Nobody is drafting them. They volunteer for the job.
They stood around while little children were being executed and bleeding out. Anybody even putting up a defense for those craven pieces of shit is just as bad in my opinion. Actually worse.
That "literally" is not their job. They're not bodyguards or soldiers. It is a potential hazard of their job.
But for arguments sake. They got shot because it's their job. So somehow that maes them cowards?
Just try thinking before you speak. A little bit of 2nd and 3rd order thinking. Don't just say the first thing that pops into your mind.
Your taxes are forcefully taken? What do you live in Colonial America. The red coats been to your door lately?
Society holds them in high esteem? What society do you live in?
Now go look up the definition of "literally"
The out and out stupidity of some of the people in this thread is staggering.
What do you know about confrontation management?
Maybe you got into a fight in high school? Maybe you took some tae kwon do classes. Maybe you know from whst you've seen in the movies. Maybe some one cut you off in line at the grocery store and you thought about saying something ..
When was the last time you heard a shot fired in anger? When was the last time you saw somebodys head come apart from high caliber ballistics? When was the last time the person standing next to you was dropped from gunfire?
You weren't there, you don't know other than what you've heard the media tell you. The media wasn't there either.
I don't know exactly how it happened but I know enough to know that. All you other assholes got it all sorted out from behind your computer screen. you all think you know something and you don't know shit.
I mean a prime example of dunning-krueger. You think you know everything precisely because you dont know anything. You haven't the faintest concept.
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And "Pragress's" tweet sounds like a threat.
(https://i.postimg.cc/W15VG3k5/FT-c7-ZTWQAswuji.jpg)
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Beakdoctor is extremely vested in defending the police and their lack of action while children were executed.
Why do you hate kids, beak?
He's a "Back The Blue" parody/troll account. It's now obvious that his objective is to make you think that cops and their supporters are literally retarded.
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That "literally" is not their job. They're not bodyguards or soldiers. It is a potential hazard of their job.
But for arguments sake. They got shot because it's their job. So somehow that maes them cowards?
Just try thinking before you speak. A little bit of 2nd and 3rd order thinking. Don't just say the first thing that pops into your mind.
Your taxes are forcefully taken? What do you live in Colonial America. The red coats been to your door lately?
Society holds them in high esteem? What society do you live in?
Now go look up the definition of "literally"
The out and out stupidity of some of the people in this thread is staggering.
What do you know about confrontation management?
Maybe you got into a fight in high school? Maybe you took some tae kwon do classes. Maybe you know from whst you've seen in the movies. Maybe some one cut you off in line at the grocery store and you thought about saying something ..
When was the last time you heard a shot fired in anger? When was the last time you saw somebodys head come apart from high caliber ballistics? When was the last time the person standing next to you was dropped from gunfire?
You weren't there, you don't know other than what you've heard the media tell you. The media wasn't there either.
I don't know exactly how it happened but I know enough to know that. All you other assholes got it all sorted out from behind your computer screen. you all think you know something and you don't know shit.
I mean a prime example of dunning-krueger. You think you know everything precisely because you dont know anything. You haven't the faintest concept.
So, what is their job, if not to protect society? I know cops don’t have a constitutional right to protect the public. So, what exactly is the point of their job? To catch the killer after the fact? If that is the case, it seems like utterly wasteful. We need cops to protect the public and run into harms way. Although, that is literally not their job description, it should be.
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So, what is their job, if not to protect society? I know cops don’t have a constitutional right to protect the public. So, what exactly is the point of their job? To catch the killer after the fact? If that is the case, it seems like utterly wasteful. We need cops to protect the public and run into harms way. Although, that is literally not their job description, it should be.
So, they did kill Ramos. They did go into harms way. They did go into gunfire. Thats how 2 were shot.
This story about the rambo border patrol agent running in past everyone else and killing the guy is horseshit. Border patrol was there for a long time before they were able to kill him. So after an hour the cowardice clock ran out and then they decided to go kill him? Or maybe its just not that simple.or maybe theirs other factors.
Try being objective here and not immediately embracing the coward narrative.
The coward narrative comes from everybody having an extremley emotional response, jumping to a conclusion based on a fraction of the total information then applying a hindsight bias. Call it playing devils advocate if you want. But i dont believe anything i hear (especially anything that has an obvious media slant) and only half of what I see.
If you didn't learn that lesson in the past. 2 years I don't know what else to tell you.
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So, they did kill Ramos. They did go into harms way. They did go into gunfire. Thats how 2 were shot.
This story about the rambo border patrol agent running in past everyone else and killing the guy is horseshit. Border patrol was there for a long time before they were able to kill him. So after an hour the cowardice clock ran out and then they decided to go kill him? Or maybe its just not that simple.or maybe theirs other factors.
Try being objective here and not immediately embracing the coward narrative.
The coward narrative comes from everybody having an extremley emotional response, jumping to a conclusion based on a fraction of the total information then applying a hindsight bias. Call it playing devils advocate if you want. But i dont believe anything i hear (especially anything that has an obvious media slant) and only half of what I see.
If you didn't learn that lesson in the past. 2 years I don't know what else to tell you.
Why do you hate kids?
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So, they did kill Ramos. They did go into harms way. They did go into gunfire. Thats how 2 were shot.
This story about the rambo border patrol agent running in past everyone else and killing the guy is horseshit. Border patrol was there for a long time before they were able to kill him. So after an hour the cowardice clock ran out and then they decided to go kill him? Or maybe its just not that simple.or maybe theirs other factors.
Try being objective here and not immediately embracing the coward narrative.
The coward narrative comes from everybody having an extremley emotional response, jumping to a conclusion based on a fraction of the total information then applying a hindsight bias. Call it playing devils advocate if you want. But i dont believe anything i hear (especially anything that has an obvious media slant) and only half of what I see.
If you didn't learn that lesson in the past. 2 years I don't know what else to tell you.
Why do you think the cops waited outside while children were killed?
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Why do you hate kids?
Yeah. Ok. I'm going to assume you're joking.
Children are about the only thing in this world I still care about. I can't dignify such an assnine question-quasi-statement with anything else.
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Yeah. Ok. I'm going to assume you're joking.
Children are about the only thing in this world I still care about. I can't dignify such an assnine question-quasi-statement with anything else.
It doesn't appear that way. Your vehement defense of these cops standing around while kids were slaughtered makes it seem like you hate kids.
Is it safe to assume you know one of the cops that were there or are related to one?
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Uvalde FAILURE is shattering citizens' trust in POLICE:
https://www.brighteon.com/0e305165-13ca-4aaa-87b4-a10da9dcd57e
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Leftist MSM happy to push "mass shooting" lies when it's almost all scumbag criminals in shitty inner city areas responsible for those stats. They don't acquire their guns legally. But they deliberately and deceptively pump up a false narrative.
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Shitty police chief (He has more stars than officers under his command) has now been sworn in (behind closed doors) as a city councilman?
Also, the story here is changing by the minute.
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Ban knives to prevent unprovoked broad daylight stabbings.
Always restrict good people's rights while ignoring the massive mental health crisis that the new ruling class is rapidly creating by design.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/girl-16-stabbed-in-apparent-unprovoked-attack-in-nyc/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow (https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/girl-16-stabbed-in-apparent-unprovoked-attack-in-nyc/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdYhx3ZK/FUK0-Hbn-Xw-AQb-IUD.jpg)
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Ban knives to prevent unprovoked broad daylight stabbings.
Always restrict good people's rights while ignoring the massive mental health crisis that the new ruling class is rapidly creating by design.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/girl-16-stabbed-in-apparent-unprovoked-attack-in-nyc/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow (https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/girl-16-stabbed-in-apparent-unprovoked-attack-in-nyc/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdYhx3ZK/FUK0-Hbn-Xw-AQb-IUD.jpg)
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Cops are still looking for the suspect, described as a man with a medium complexion, weighing about 150 pounds with a thin build, black hair and goatee, authorities said
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Cops are still looking for the suspect, described as a man with a medium complexion, weighing about 150 pounds with a thin build, black hair and goatee, authorities said
Although the trend is to leave "Black" out of suspect descriptions, they are, in effect, making "Black" a foregone conclusion in relation to criminality. It's now just down to exactly what shade of Black the perpetrator is, in this case, "medium" Black.
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Vince G. would be described as dark complected.
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ban chocolates
https://www.foxnews.com/us/sacramento-mass-shooting-suspect-mtula-payton
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/1862/1048/Smiley-Dandrae-Martin.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
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ban chocolates
https://www.foxnews.com/us/sacramento-mass-shooting-suspect-mtula-payton
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/1862/1048/Smiley-Dandrae-Martin.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
The gentleman on the left seems unaware that he has dog excrement in his hair.
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De-evolution appears real.
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98% of Americans are now "Indians" to the self-chosen class that now runs America in a similar way to the Russian people who were overthrown by the mass murderers who took over Russia last century. It never ends well when you're ruled by "infallible" people that believe they have a biblical mandate to enslave you and take your wealth, before removing you from existence and blotting out any memory that you ever existed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mkm2Qcz7/FUMIIAIWYAMWDc-H.png)
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98% of Americans are now "Indians" to the self-chosen class that now runs America in a similar way to the Russian people who were overthrown by the mass murderers who took over Russia last century. It never ends well when you're ruled by "infallible" people that believe they have a biblical mandate to enslave you and take your wealth, before removing you from existence and blotting out any memory that you ever existed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mkm2Qcz7/FUMIIAIWYAMWDc-H.png)
The more things change....
What has happened in Canada over the past two years should be a wake up call but unbelievably enough many think it's a good idea.
People's sense of self preservation has been eliminated.... de-evolution indeed.
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Although the trend is to leave "Black" out of suspect descriptions, they are, in effect, making "Black" a foregone conclusion in relation to criminality. It's now just down to exactly what shade of Black the perpetrator is, in this case, "medium" Black.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/33/f0/a733f0f06e4bdb9a740d19039fd2d002.jpg)
The attacker was descrbed as a "Tortilla" male
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Colion Noir: Canada Freezing Handgun Ownership Proves America's Gun Confiscation Trajectory
Remember all those twats here that kept saying "Nobody wants to take your guns" ???
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The attacker was descrbed as a "Tortilla" male
People really need to study this chart because somebody may be on the lookout for a "Peanut" when the suspect is actually a "Tortilla".
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Ain't nothin' but a peanut.
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This:
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The Tusla shooter
Merrick Garland is frustrated.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvyRL9BR/FUQj-Oi-TWQAE4-DEi.png)
A pathetic but methodical little boy who acts calm and genteel but has a life mission to oppress.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQLjc0sx/merrick-garland-joe-biden.jpg)
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This gal just destroyed libs, Pervy Joe the Pant-Shitter CCP puppet commie traitor, and called Hunter crack-head, how epic.
And nice cannon-balls on this gal...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1532474602210877452
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Dope wants to pass more laws for us but his crackhead son outright lied 4473 and was never charged. Fuck him
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This gal just destroyed libs, Pervy Joe the Pant-Shitter CCP puppet commie traitor, and called Hunter crack-head, how epic.
And nice cannon-balls on this gal...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1532474602210877452
brutal because its true
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Dem logic
Create more laws.
Promote and appoint Judges and D.A.'s that drop charges and ignore minimum sentencing guidelines.
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Recall Gascon!!
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And nice cannon-balls on this gal...
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/K.YvY777Gl7VU7y0iNFjXA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTQ4MA--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/5ZKBjvQnGREuW95xlTdkMw--~B/aD0yNjIzO3c9MzQ5NDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/fbd7bda2095008ea10da8490702526a4)
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Ban knives to prevent unprovoked broad daylight stabbings.
Always restrict good people's rights while ignoring the massive mental health crisis that the new ruling class is rapidly creating by design.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/girl-16-stabbed-in-apparent-unprovoked-attack-in-nyc/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow (https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/girl-16-stabbed-in-apparent-unprovoked-attack-in-nyc/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)
Awful business. That poor girl
Luckily it appears to have been just a flesh wound - not sure why...?
(http://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/teen-stabbed-025.jpg?quality=75&strip=all)
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At first meeting since massacre, Uvalde school board takes no action on police chief
The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District board took no action Friday evening against its embattled police chief, Pete Arredondo, in a special board meeting called in response to last week’s mass shooting at Robb Elementary School.
As incident commander, Arredondo made the decision to wait more than an hour for backup instead of ordering officers at the scene to immediately confront the shooter who killed 19 students and two teachers. The head of the state police later said this was the “wrong decision, period.”
Many residents had called on Arredondo to quit or be sacked, saying decisive action could have potentially saved lives. Although the agenda for Friday’s meeting allowed the board to terminate Arredondo, the board declined to do so.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/03/uvalde-shooting-school-board-arredondo/
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That’s interesting.
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99.9 of blacks need to be concerned about that 19.8. it's not like whitey is biting the dust in Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, and a few other hot spots.
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That’s interesting.
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You dumbfuck Hawaui is one of the smallest states AND among those with the lowest populations at just over a million people. Fuck you and shove your idiotic memes up your prolapsed anus.
If you're going to contribute try something relevant and thought provoking instead of regurgitating banal and misleading memes that are factually inaccurate.
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You dumbfuck Hawaui is one of the smallest states AND among those with the lowest populations at just over a million people. Fuck you and shove your idiotic memes up your prolapsed anus.
Wow.
Clearly you don’t understand what “rate” means.
It’s no wonder you don’t understand gun control and think more guns means less murders.
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Wow.
Clearly you don’t understand what “rate” means.
It’s no wonder you don’t understand gun control and think more guns means less murders.
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Despite being among the smallest it has the 13th highest murder rate shit for brains. Your guns stats are cherry picked.
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Wow.
Clearly you don’t understand what “rate” means.
It’s no wonder you don’t understand gun control and think more guns means less murders.
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You also suck, like bhank, you both suck as human beings for different reasons, but still suck.
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Here's something that makes sense to Oaklet:
A crime happens in the United States. In this case an Active shooter at a school. Statistically you have about the same odds as being struck by lightning.
In response to this crime in an entirely different country that statistically has even less of a chance of this type of event happening, the ruling CZAR Truedeau decides to freeze the sale of handguns and ban toys that look like guns
Oaklet, does that make sense to you?
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Here's something that makes sense to Oaklet:
A crime happens in the United States. In this case an Active shooter at a school. Statistically you have about the same odds as being struck by lightning.
In response to this crime in an entirely different country that statistically has even less of a chance of this type of event happening, the ruling CZAR Truedeau decides to freeze the sale of handguns and ban toys that look like guns
Oaklet, does that make sense to you?
Your laws make MUCH more sense.
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Here's something that makes sense to Oaklet:
A crime happens in the United States. In this case an Active shooter at a school. Statistically you have about the same odds as being struck by lightning.
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You know, depending on whose counting, outlets change the definition of mass shooting based on the narrative you child.
First of all at issue is active shooters and mass shooters. 2nd of all last year nobody would include a shootout involving 4 chicago gang bangers as a mass shooting but now, in order to strengthen the narrative, anything and everything that could possibly meet the definition is included in the stats you quote. Same goes for school shootings. In Detroit some 13 year old 9th grader shoots a rival gang member on school property isnt what typically counts for a school shooting in the context we're discussing. But most assuredly are counted in your post.
Active shooters / mass shooters are random. The victims are unrelated to the shooters motive. Now including every gangster, ex con, 40 year old adolescents and trustee of modern chemistry that shoots a couple of rival assholes or whose motive is robbery does not capture the probability of an active shooter.
Jesus christ. Having to explain this to you. You post like a school girl. Using a Ukraine flag as your avatar, running in fear of covid, wrapping your dick in a kn95 mask, Cutting and pasting every colorful infographic on gun violence or meme that you find on Pinterest. Lol. You fucking child. You simp.
Grow up and open your eyes to the real world.
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Your laws make MUCH more sense.
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Kinder eggs are banned?
They are literally sold everywhere and don’t even check id’s.
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Kinder eggs are banned?
They are literally sold everywhere and don’t even check id’s.
yeah but they have crappy toys. the real ones had little lego things in them, but american children are too dumb to not choke on them
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Grow up and open your eyes to the real world.
Oak has zero brains or logic, and is afraid of his own shadow. Posting lib-created meme's like they are some sort of fact, just proves that.
Not much happening in the cranial dept. His missing junk shows there's not much happening below the belt either. Only those with zero-balls are that scared.
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Kinder eggs are banned?
They are literally sold everywhere and don’t even check id’s.
They are banned with the toy inside of them.
The US government thought they were dangerous because they pose a coking hazard.
But guns are ok?
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They are banned with the toy inside of them.
The US government thought they were dangerous because they pose a coking hazard.
But guns are ok?
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No they aren't. When they were banned....it was 1938, a few years after automatic weapons were regulated for the general public.
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No they aren't. When they were banned....it was 1938, a few years after automatic weapons were regulated for the general public.
We are both correct.
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yeah but they have crappy toys. the real ones had little lego things in them, but american children are too dumb to not choke on them
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You know, depending on whose counting, outlets change the definition of mass shooting based on the narrative you child.
First of all at issue is active shooters and mass shooters. 2nd of all last year nobody would include a shootout involving 4 chicago gang bangers as a mass shooting but now, in order to strengthen the narrative, anything and everything that could possibly meet the definition is included in the stats you quote. Same goes for school shootings. In Detroit some 13 year old 9th grader shoots a rival gang member on school property isnt what typically counts for a school shooting in the context we're discussing. But most assuredly are counted in your post.
Active shooters / mass shooters are random. The victims are unrelated to the shooters motive. Now including every gangster, ex con, 40 year old adolescents and trustee of modern chemistry that shoots a couple of rival assholes or whose motive is robbery does not capture the probability of an active shooter.
Jesus christ. Having to explain this to you. You post like a school girl. Using a Ukraine flag as your avatar, running in fear of covid, wrapping your dick in a kn95 mask, Cutting and pasting every colorful infographic on gun violence or meme that you find on Pinterest. Lol. You fucking child. You simp.
Grow up and open your eyes to the real world.
Another mass shooting as we speak.
240th mass shooting this year.
How long will you PRETEND that US mass shootings aren’t real?
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By Jason Riley - WSJ
Perception Diverges From Reality on Mass School Shootings
Gun-control advocates want you to think that tragedies like Uvalde are more common than they are.
Saturation media coverage of such terrifying events as the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, can leave some people with the impression that these things occur far more often than they do. Three years ago, on the 20th anniversary of the Columbine High School shooting in Littleton, Colo., the New York Times published an article noting that public perceptions of school safety are largely at odds with what the data show.
“The unique horror of mass shootings,” the Times reported, “means they occupy a central place in parents’ fears, and in the nation’s political debate about gun access and school safety, even though they remain rare.” Most gun-related deaths—54% in 2020—are suicides. Mass shooting casualties are less than 1% of all gun deaths, and there have been 13 mass school shootings since 1966. These data points are cold comfort to those mourning the shooting victims in Uvalde, but they ought to inform any public policy response under consideration.
There are an estimated 400 million guns in circulation in the U.S., which leads gun-control advocates to conclude that school shootings are an inevitable outcome of having so many guns around. Correlation is not causation, however, and research has failed to find a causal relationship between changes in gun-ownership rates and changes in the level of school violence involving firearms. A recent analysis of the Rand Corporation’s firearms database by the University of Oklahoma’s Daniel Hamlin found significant increases and decreases in school gun incidents during periods when gun-ownership rates remained relatively stable.
Gun violence that occurs away from school settings tells a similar story. Gun-ownership rates in rural areas are higher than in urban areas, yet our cities tend to be far more violent. Whites own firearms at much higher rates than blacks or Hispanics, yet gun violence among the latter two groups is much more commonplace. Moreover, proponents of additional gun laws ignore that shootings continue to plague places such as Chicago, which already has some of the country’s most severe gun restrictions. How passing more gun regulations, or taking guns away from the law-abiding, will deter criminals is a question they can’t answer.
Gun-control advocates in the U.S. like to make selective comparisons with other countries, such as Japan, where both gun ownership and gun crimes are lower than in the U.S. But lower levels of gun possession don’t necessarily translate into lower levels of violent crime. Gun ownership rates in Switzerland and Austria, for example, are significantly higher than in Germany, even though the Swiss and the Austrians have lower murder rates than the Germans. Likewise, Russia and Mexico have stronger gun-control laws than we do as well as higher homicide rates.
In the two decades leading up to the pandemic, legal gun sales in the U.S. rose while violent crime declined. Covid-19 no doubt helped to reverse crime trends, but the pandemic can’t explain everything. Anti-police sentiment had already been growing in the wake of fatal high-profile encounters between police and black suspects. With the blessing of progressive Democrats and most media outlets, activists have tried to reduce police resources and scapegoat law-enforcement for social inequality.
Ironically, the same people who agitate for additional gun restrictions have worked to undermine the police officers tasked with enforcing any new gun laws, and they have praised the district attorneys in San Francisco, Philadelphia, New York and elsewhere who vow not to prosecute repeat offenders.
Low-income blacks are the most frequent victims of violent crime in this country. When you diminish the quality of policing in their communities, you’re not helping matters. And gun restrictions that make it more difficult for law-abiding blacks to defend themselves and their families can only make a bad situation even worse.
Sensational killings—particularly those that occur during an election year in a deeply divided nation—are bound to be exploited by political partisans. But if policy makers want to do something constructive in response to what happened in Uvalde, they might first make sure they’re not barking up the wrong tree. In a nation with as many firearms as this one, and where gun possession is part of our tradition and protected by the Constitution, forced confiscation or voluntary disarmament are both impractical.
Deterrence is the more realistic option. Misbehaving students can be suspended and expelled if necessary. Mental-health services can be improved. Armed security guards can be employed. No one thinks turning schools into fortresses is ideal, but turning schools into gun-free zones can make them a magnet for mass shooters. When you’re worried about someone shooting back, sometimes you think twice about taking the first shot.
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Another mass shooting as we speak.
240th mass shooting this year.
How long will you PRETEND that US mass shootings aren’t real?
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If you exclude the black community there really arent that many
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By Jason Riley - WSJ
Deterrence is the more realistic option. Misbehaving students can be suspended and expelled if necessary. Mental-health services can be improved. Armed security guards can be employed. No one thinks turning schools into fortresses is ideal, but turning schools into gun-free zones can make them a magnet for mass shooters. When you’re worried about someone shooting back, sometimes you think twice about taking the first shot.
After two recent school shootings where armed officers failed to intervene, why are people still advocating for this?
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They are banned with the toy inside of them.
The US government thought they were dangerous because they pose a coking hazard.
But guns are ok?
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Banned where? I literally just bought one from Target this morning. They had boxes of these at every checkout. They have a spoon and a toy. I ate both.
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After two recent school shootings where armed officers failed to intervene, why are people still advocating for this?
The police did intervene. You may not like it. But who else killed Ramos? You like this police are cowards narrative. There were a lot of errors, almost all on the shoulders of the incident commander. But cowardice wasn't one of them.
Hey, let me fill you in on a secret.... the same assholes that convinced you these cops were cowards are the same assholes trying to convince you that you're brave if you cut off your dick. Lol!
What other school shooting are you talking about? Parkland? Who the hell else intervened? A single officer captured as he made his getaway into the surrounding neighborhood.
You can immediately pass your judgement without knowing the facts. Or you can wait for the luxuray of having all the facts and criticize using 20/20 hindsight- something the cops didn't have in real life time. Eitherway its a no win scenario.
Have it your way.
Cops running in to kill ramos taking fire and getting shot = coward
Cut of your own dick and identify as a female = brave
Hahaha!lol!! Lets send in the trannies. Theyre so fucking brave!
The year is 2022 shame on you for buying into it.
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They are banned with the toy inside of them.
The US government thought they were dangerous because they pose a coking hazard.
But guns are ok?
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Mass shootings are most definitely a problem a real big fucking problem. But a rare problem.
Chicago has gun violence every single day of tge week. Its motivated by gangs, drugs and in some instances robberies.
Some of those fit the minimal technical definition of a mass shooting but are not mass shootings. New York, Detroit, Miami, Oakland and many others all the same. When its young black kids killing each otger no one gives a fuck.
But now it helps to include those stats in creating the stats you're citing. In one instance you have no problem avoiding gun violence if you stay out of the wrong neighborhoods, doint join gangs, dont sell dope etc...
In tge other circumstances its totally random.
Ill quote mark twain (since you can't think for yourself and rely on stats without context) " there are lies, damn lies and statistics."
Now, to this other idiotic comparison you keep trying to make about kinder joys being banned for children but guns are ok?
No numbnuts, guns are not ok for children. With obvious exceptions for hunting with a responsible adult custodian, guns are not legal for children.
Please stop cut and pasting inaccurate stats and try thinking for yourself.
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Disgusting cops. >:(
'I'm going in there!': Uvalde mother handcuffed by cops describes running into school during shooting, says police tried to silence her from telling her story
"And he said, 'Well, we're gonna have to arrest you because you're being very uncooperative,'" the Uvalde mother explained. "I said, 'Well, you're gonna have to arrest me because I'm going in there. And I'm telling you right now, I don't see none of y'all in there. Y'all are standing with snipers and y'all are far away. If y'all don't go to go in there, I'm going in there.' He immediately put me in cuffs."
Immediately after the handcuffs were removed from Gomez, she sprinted toward the school. She got her one son out of his classroom.
The courageous mother then ran to get her second child, but was stopped by police.
She explained, "So I start yelling and I'm being uncooperative, and I'm like, 'Well, y'all ain't doing s**t! What are y'all doing? Y'all ain't doing s**t!.'"
Gomez said the teacher wouldn't open the door to the classroom where her son was and she was escorted out by police. However, Gomez ran back when she saw that her son's classroom was being evacuated.
"There was not one officer inside the school when I ran to my second son's classroom," Gomez exclaimed.
Gomez said she heard gunshots being fired during the evacuation and that it was still an active shooting situation.
"They could have saved many more lives," Gomez said as she broke into tears. "They could have gone into that classroom – and maybe two or three would have been gone – but they could have saved the whole class. They could have done something."
"If anything, they were being more aggressive on us parents that were willing to go in there," Gomez said of Ulvade police.
She told a police officer, "If anything, I need you to go in there with me to go protect my kids."
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ThE PoLeEs ArE sO BrAvE ::)
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Disgusting cops. >:(
'I'm going in there!': Uvalde mother handcuffed by cops describes running into school during shooting, says police tried to silence her from telling her story
"And he said, 'Well, we're gonna have to arrest you because you're being very uncooperative,'" the Uvalde mother explained. "I said, 'Well, you're gonna have to arrest me because I'm going in there. And I'm telling you right now, I don't see none of y'all in there. Y'all are standing with snipers and y'all are far away. If y'all don't go to go in there, I'm going in there.' He immediately put me in cuffs."
Immediately after the handcuffs were removed from Gomez, she sprinted toward the school. She got her one son out of his classroom.
The courageous mother then ran to get her second child, but was stopped by police.
She explained, "So I start yelling and I'm being uncooperative, and I'm like, 'Well, y'all ain't doing s**t! What are y'all doing? Y'all ain't doing s**t!.'"
Gomez said the teacher wouldn't open the door to the classroom where her son was and she was escorted out by police. However, Gomez ran back when she saw that her son's classroom was being evacuated.
"There was not one officer inside the school when I ran to my second son's classroom," Gomez exclaimed.
Gomez said she heard gunshots being fired during the evacuation and that it was still an active shooting situation.
"They could have saved many more lives," Gomez said as she broke into tears. "They could have gone into that classroom – and maybe two or three would have been gone – but they could have saved the whole class. They could have done something."
"If anything, they were being more aggressive on us parents that were willing to go in there," Gomez said of Ulvade police.
She told a police officer, "If anything, I need you to go in there with me to go protect my kids."
Disgusting? Ok.
Is it possible to consider that the two things are mutually exclusive.
She was right to run after her children. Any parent worth a shit would.
Police had to stop her. She could've gotten herself killed or caused more deaths by drawing gunfire from Ramos to other classrooms. They cannot let a crowd of parents run through tge school and expect to have any kind of command. Or gain any kind of control.
These two concepts, both having merit, is difficult for you to understand.
Its also apparent you're not actually considering any points im making. You're ignoring the laborous process of thought and conceptualizing the reality of this event in favor of the instant gratitude of l spewing rhetoric about the cops with labels of cowardice and disgusting. Dont expend any effort on critical thought, its not your strong point.
At the start of this You bought into the bullshit about the first bortac cop running in rambo style and executing ramos. Well that turned out to be fiction. But its something you read and believed. So you made a mistake. You believed something that wasn't correct. The IC here made a mistake he thought it transitioned to a barricaded gunman. Which involves different tactics than an active shooter.... Yet you cant understand this? You j,ust like me or anyone , is not infallible. But rather than consider how errors could be made its easier just to make accusations of cowardice.?
And
Chaos, dont ever question me about children ever again.
You're a mod right? You didn't lift a fucking finger when some asshole on here was threatening Bhanks kids.
I don't chime in o. Every topic on this forum. Tgeres a ton of shit I don't know anything about. But if any of you actually read anything ive posted in this thread you might eventually come to the conclusion that I have a level of expertise in this particular field and you might hesitate for a second to consider what im trying to explain.
Ive spent time thinking about my responses trying to lay out thoughtful responses to give you food for thought. But ive clearly been waisting my time. Ive grossly over estimated your petential for civic debate and intelligent discourse. Trying to give perspective to people who lack it and just immediately respond with your own Disgusting, gross hyperbole.
So Ill save myself any more time on this.
You wonder why this (shooting in uvalde) is a problem. Well this thread is a perfect example.The Country's divided and even otherwise reasonable people are unwilling or just lack the intellectual capacity to even consider a well reasoned contrary argument and favor cheap sensational rhetoric.
Fair enough.
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Disgusting? Ok.
Is it possible to consider that the two things are mutually exclusive.
She was right to run after her children. Any parent worth a shit would.
Police had to stop her. She could've gotten herself killed or caused more deaths by drawing gunfire from Ramos to other classrooms. They cannot let a crowd of parents run through tge school and expect to have any kind of command. Or gain any kind of control.
These two concepts, both having merit, is difficult for you to understand.
Its also apparent you're not actually considering any points im making. You're ignoring the laborous process of thought and conceptualizing the reality of this event in favor of the instant gratitude of l spewing rhetoric about the cops with labels of cowardice and disgusting. Dont expend any effort on critical thought, its not your strong point.
At the start of this You bought into the bullshit about the first bortac cop running in rambo style and executing ramos. Well that turned out to be fiction. But its something you read and believed. So you made a mistake. You believed something that wasn't correct. The IC here made a mistake he thought it transitioned to a barricaded gunman. Which involves different tactics than an active shooter.... Yet you cant understand this? You j,ust like me or anyone , is not infallible. But rather than consider how errors could be made its easier just to make accusations of cowardice.?
And
Chaos, dont ever question me about children ever again.
You're a mod right? You didn't lift a fucking finger when some asshole on here was threatening Bhanks kids.
I don't chime in o. Every topic on this forum. Tgeres a ton of shit I don't know anything about. But if any of you actually read anything ive posted in this thread you might eventually come to the conclusion that I have a level of expertise in this particular field and you might hesitate for a second to consider what im trying to explain.
Ive spent time thinking about my responses trying to lay out thoughtful responses to give you food for thought. But ive clearly been waisting my time. Ive grossly over estimated your petential for civic debate and intelligent discourse. Trying to give perspective to people who lack it and just immediately respond with your own Disgusting, gross hyperbole.
So Ill save myself any more time on this.
You wonder why this (shooting in uvalde) is a problem. Well this thread is a perfect example.The Country's divided and even otherwise reasonable people are unwilling or just lack the intellectual capacity to even consider a well reasoned contrary argument and favor cheap sensational rhetoric.
Fair enough.
There is no argument when you’re using failed logic in your reasoning. The police used logic that was wrong. They did not chase after the shooter and acted under the false logic that the situation was a hostage situation not an active shooter situation while gunshots were still ringing out. Thus, the parents were using the correct reasoning, which is a child’s life is worth more than an adult’s life and you take more risks to save a child.
The logic of the parents wasn’t just based out of emotion but parental instinct. The same parental instinct of rushing and fighting to get in the building to save lives no matter the consequences is the same instinct that is now seen as lost in police from failed training and picking bottom of the barrel applicants for police services.
The mother told her story and was told by the police to not tell her story - thus she should seek the services of a constitutional law attorney as they were attempting to infringe on her speech.
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Disgusting? Ok.
Is it possible to consider that the two things are mutually exclusive.
She was right to run after her children. Any parent worth a shit would.
Police had to stop her. She could've gotten herself killed or caused more deaths by drawing gunfire from Ramos to other classrooms. They cannot let a crowd of parents run through tge school and expect to have any kind of command. Or gain any kind of control.
These two concepts, both having merit, is difficult for you to understand.
Its also apparent you're not actually considering any points im making. You're ignoring the laborous process of thought and conceptualizing the reality of this event in favor of the instant gratitude of l spewing rhetoric about the cops with labels of cowardice and disgusting. Dont expend any effort on critical thought, its not your strong point.
At the start of this You bought into the bullshit about the first bortac cop running in rambo style and executing ramos. Well that turned out to be fiction. But its something you read and believed. So you made a mistake. You believed something that wasn't correct. The IC here made a mistake he thought it transitioned to a barricaded gunman. Which involves different tactics than an active shooter.... Yet you cant understand this? You j,ust like me or anyone , is not infallible. But rather than consider how errors could be made its easier just to make accusations of cowardice.?
And
Chaos, dont ever question me about children ever again.
You're a mod right? You didn't lift a fucking finger when some asshole on here was threatening Bhanks kids.
I don't chime in o. Every topic on this forum. Tgeres a ton of shit I don't know anything about. But if any of you actually read anything ive posted in this thread you might eventually come to the conclusion that I have a level of expertise in this particular field and you might hesitate for a second to consider what im trying to explain.
Ive spent time thinking about my responses trying to lay out thoughtful responses to give you food for thought. But ive clearly been waisting my time. Ive grossly over estimated your petential for civic debate and intelligent discourse. Trying to give perspective to people who lack it and just immediately respond with your own Disgusting, gross hyperbole.
So Ill save myself any more time on this.
You wonder why this (shooting in uvalde) is a problem. Well this thread is a perfect example.The Country's divided and even otherwise reasonable people are unwilling or just lack the intellectual capacity to even consider a well reasoned contrary argument and favor cheap sensational rhetoric.
Fair enough.
#1 Chaos will question you about children whenever he wants. You're the one defending cowards that stood around while kids were executed. But we'll get to that.
#2 bhank's kid is in no danger, have people said some disgusting and ridiculous stuff? Absolutely! Has bhank reported any of it or asked any mods to delete any of it? No. Not from what I've seen.
#3 bhank was repeatedly told not to post his personal info here and he mocked those people and openly invited the drama and bullshit, over and over again. He relishes the drama. If he didn't want all that bullshit to follow him, then he could have easily put some effort into keeping himself a tad bit more anonymous instead of plastering himself and his life all over getbig acting like some sort of untouchable god.
#4 As far as you go, now claiming some sort of "level of expertise in this particular field", yet repeatedly you have denied being involved with any sort of LE. So either you're full of shit and you are some sort of LE or you're full of shit and you're making observations about the situation that unfolded just like the rest of it. Which is it? If you want to have some sort of rational civic debate or intellectual discourse, then maybe you need to explain how and why you think your opinion of the situation should hold more weight than the rest of ours?
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There is no argument when you’re using failed logic in your reasoning. The police used logic that was wrong. They did not chase after the shooter and acted under the false logic that the situation was a hostage situation not an active shooter situation while gunshots were still ringing out. Thus, the parents were using the correct reasoning, which is a child’s life is worth more than an adult’s life and you take more risks to save a child.
The logic of the parents wasn’t just based out of emotion but parental instinct. The same parental instinct of rushing and fighting to get in the building to save lives no matter the consequences is the same instinct that is now seen as lost in police from failed training and picking bottom of the barrel applicants for police services.
The mother told her story and was told by the police to not tell her story - thus she should seek the services of a constitutional law attorney as they were attempting to infringe on her speech.
OK. False logic. Im not applying false logic but you could be correct that the cops did. BUT:That's still not the same thing as cowardice. Which is my argument. That is my only point. There are a number of errors that tye police made. Cowardice isn't one of them.
I don't necessarily know if it was false logic. But I have no idea why the IC thought it transitioned to a barricaded gunman. I don't have enough information to understand that decision. It very well could be false logic. It could be a lack of communication. I heard something about him not having a radio? Which, if true, is totally unforgivable under these circumstances. He should've never stepped into the role of the incident commander if he didn't have the basic equipment to take a leadership role. If that's true, he needs to take responsibility and admit this then resign.
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#1 Chaos will question you about children whenever he wants. You're the one defending cowards that stood around while kids were executed. But we'll get to that.
#2 bhank's kid is in no danger, have people said some disgusting and ridiculous stuff? Absolutely! Has bhank reported any of it or asked any mods to delete any of it? No. Not from what I've seen.
#3 bhank was repeatedly told not to post his personal info here and he mocked those people and openly invited the drama and bullshit, over and over again. He relishes the drama. If he didn't want all that bullshit to follow him, then he could have easily put some effort into keeping himself a tad bit more anonymous instead of plastering himself and his life all over getbig acting like some sort of untouchable god.
#4 As far as you go, now claiming some sort of "level of expertise in this particular field", yet repeatedly you have denied being involved with any sort of LE. So either you're full of shit and you are some sort of LE or you're full of shit and you're making observations about the situation that unfolded just like the rest of it. Which is it? If you want to have some sort of rational civic debate or intellectual discourse, then maybe you need to explain how and why you think your opinion of the situation should hold more weight than the rest of ours?
Fyi
I Didn't read any of this shit.
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Fyi
I Didn't read any of this shit.
Typical liberal.
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chaos
is a c unt
blabs in every thread knowing jack sbout anything
and bhanks is
your untouchable god
he proves it daily
you nobody of a nobody
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I bet a gun costs less too.
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why does it bother you people buy and possess guns?
it doesnt bother me you support abortions
yet you are cool with death by doctor
just not guns
hmmm
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why does it bother you people buy and possess guns?
it doesnt bother me you support abortions
yet you are cool with death by doctor
just not guns
hmmm
Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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But you’re fine with millions murdered before they start school because abortions are legal?
Oak there is not anyone who’s comfortable with what happened. It’s the absolutely horrific.
But let’s have a real discussion about what can be done. Whether you like it or not Guns aren’t going anywhere.
I think most would agree that we can use better background checks, requirements and maybe even a new age restriction. Unfortunately America was settled and has its whole history based on gun violence. If we’re going to fault our country for the systemic issues that are a part of its foundation we need to realize there are many that are deeply rooted and part of our core foundation.
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But you’re fine with millions murdered before they start school because abortions are legal?
Oak there is not anyone who’s comfortable with what happened. It’s the absolutely horrific.
But let’s have a real discussion about what can be done. Whether you like it or not Guns aren’t going anywhere.
I think most would agree that we can use better background checks, requirements and maybe even a new age restriction. Unfortunately America was settled and has its whole history based on gun violence. If we’re going to fault our country for the systemic issues that are a part of its foundation we need to realize there are many that are deeply rooted and part of our core foundation.
I don’t think I’ll ever understand the uniquely American stance of Pro Life AND Pro Gun.
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But you’re fine with millions murdered before they start school because abortions are legal?
Oak there is not anyone who’s comfortable with what happened. It’s the absolutely horrific.
But let’s have a real discussion about what can be done. Whether you like it or not Guns aren’t going anywhere.
I think most would agree that we can use better background checks, requirements and maybe even a new age restriction. Unfortunately America was settled and has its whole history based on gun violence. If we’re going to fault our country for the systemic issues that are a part of its foundation we need to realize there are many that are deeply rooted and part of our core foundation.
Oak is also happy when people die of covid.
He made dozens and dozens of posts gloating over people dying of covid simply because they held different views then him. Laughing emojis, laughing to tears emojis etc...
Virtue signaling sack of utter shit.
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Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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thousands?
due tell
math isnt for you is it?
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I don’t think I’ll ever understand the uniquely American stance of Pro Life AND Pro Gun.
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america exists only
because of guns
are you european?
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america exists only
because of guns
are you european?
he said he was Ukranian
He might slip up though.
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Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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You’re seeing innocent school children being murdered by the thousands? When and where is this exactly?
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america exists only
because of guns
are you european?
Born in Canada.
Ukrainian heritage.
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You’re seeing innocent school children being murdered by the thousands? When and where is this exactly?
The US of course.
Where else?
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The US of course.
Where else?
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In school shootings?
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In school shootings?
Are you asking if children in the US have been shot to death in schools?
Instead of asking me ridiculous questions why don’t you just post exactly what your point is?
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Are you asking if children in the US have been shot to death in schools?
Instead of asking me ridiculous questions why don’t you just post exactly what your point is?
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My point is your claim of “thousands” isn’t accurate if we’re talking about children murdered in school shootings.
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My point is your claim of “thousands” isn’t accurate if we’re talking about children deaths in school shootings.
I don’t believe I claimed that.
How many children have been shot to death IN schools?
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My point is your claim of “thousands” isn’t accurate if we’re talking about children murdered in school shootings.
I don’t believe I claimed that.
How many children have been shot to death IN schools?
You didn't? ??? This is a thread about a school shooting. There are thousand of school children murdered in gun-restricted countries as well. What's your point?
You’re seeing innocent school children being murdered by the thousands? When and where is this exactly?
The US of course.
Where else?
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Sensationalistic blanket statement of peace....
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Everyone still feeding the Joak troll.
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You didn't? ??? This is a thread about a school shooting. There are thousand of school children murdered in gun-restricted countries as well. What's your point?
Sensationalistic blanket statement of peace....
My point is the US has an EXTREME gun violence problem but they are too stupid to realize it.
Hope this helps.
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Are you asking if children in the US have been shot to death in schools?
Instead of asking me ridiculous questions why don’t you just post exactly what your point is?
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the onus is on you genius
you made the statement of thousands of kids being shot in american schools
you might be as dumb as melvin
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the onus is on you genius
you made the statement of thousands of kids being shot in american schools
you might be as dumb as melvin
Oh really?
Post where I made that statement. (I will also accept an apology).
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My point is the US has an EXTREME gun violence problem but they are too stupid to realize it.
Hope this helps.
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There are 169 kids dead from mass shootings at schools since Columbine 23 years ago, but that won't stop you from sensationalizing about "thousands" being murdered
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There are 169 kids dead from mass shootings at schools since Columbine 23 years ago, but that won't stop you from sensationalizing about "thousands" being murdered
Oh ONLY 169 dead children.
That’s nothing.
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FYI....there should be NO dead children!
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My point is the US has an EXTREME gun violence problem but they are too stupid to realize it.
Hope this helps.
Should probably worry about your own shitty commie-cuntry, hope that helps... ::) ::)
Libtardism spreading afar...
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Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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is this guy mentally stunted?
wtf
he cant remember what he said?
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Oh really?
Post where I made that statement. (I will also accept an apology).
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dumb as fuck
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Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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your either dumb as fuck or to lazy to read what you said
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is this guy mentally stunted?
wtf
he cant remember what he said?
LOL
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you gonna ask everyone " show me where i said that"
some more?
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Oh ONLY 169 dead children.
That’s nothing.
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FYI....there should be NO dead children!
Tell that to this kid.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/student-fatally-shot-inside-toronto-high-school-1.5780952
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hey oak
you gonna asl us to show you again?
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hey oak
you gonna asl us to show you again?
LOL
Again?
Still waiting for you to show me the first time where I said that.
Bet you can’t.
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Oh ONLY 169 dead children.
That’s nothing.
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FYI....there should be NO dead children!
Oh brother! Nobody thinks children should die. Do you think the Osaka school massacre was okay because it didn’t involve a gun?
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Call me crazy!
I don’t like seeing thousands of innocent school children murdered.
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are you fucking serious?
showing you again
i think your just a fucking troll
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are you fucking serious?
showing you again
i think your just a fucking troll
So much for there being no gun violence problem against US school children.
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So much for there being no gun violence problem against US school children.
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Gotta love how they group in teens. So teenage hoodrats running around the south side of gun-strict Chicago shooting it up and getting shot are lumped in with innocent school children. Makes sense for a liberal I guess…..
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So much for my stats being “wrong”.
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So much for my stats being “wrong”.
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Brutal headline reader. Speaking of stats, the next time you’re using a knife to cut your estrogen-boosting tofu, realize that they are used to murder about 1200 more people every year in the US than rifles do. Nothing to see here! Ban all knives! Every human life is precious!
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Brutal headline reader. Speaking of stats, the next time you’re using a knife to cut your estrogen-boosting tofu, realize that they are used to murder about 1200 more people every year in the US than rifles do. Nothing to see here! Ban all knives! Every human life is precious!
“Children aren’t affected by guns”.
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Brutal headline reader. Speaking of stats, the next time you’re using a knife to cut your estrogen-boosting tofu, realize that they are used to murder about 1200 more people every year in the US than rifles do. Nothing to see here! Ban all knives! Every human life is precious!
…..because knives are the real problem.
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So much for Americans not being “idiots”.
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…..because knives are the real problem.
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It’s 25% of that according to the FBI but okay. Whatever you want to believe.
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Six years old seems like a good age to start using a gun.
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We can get rid of all of our guns because we have the cops to protect us. The cops in Uvalde Texas waited 75 minutes before taking out the shooter while parents were running in and grabbing their kids. Trust the cops and government to protect us. ::)
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Stuff happens all over:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-61697409
Oak will be moving to Africa to protest guns and ammo. ::)
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We can get rid of all of our guns because we have the cops to protect us. The cops in Uvalde Texas waited 75 minutes before taking out the shooter while parents were running in and grabbing their kids. Trust the cops and government to protect us. ::)
True.
But with proper gun control.
The shooter would not have had a gun in the first place.
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True.
But with proper gun control.
The shooter would not have had a gun in the first place.
Yeah, they would, you know there illegal ways to get guns? Killers dont follow gun-control laws?
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Yeah, they would, you know there illegal ways to get guns? Killers dont follow gun-control laws?
did you see that school shooter? where would that dweeb have gotten an illegal gun?
Career criminals/felons, that's a different story
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True.
But with proper gun control.
The shooter would not have had a gun in the first place.
Yeah, because all of those gangs in Chicago and LA got their guns the proper way.
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Thank god for legal guns for self defense...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-woman-70-shoots-kills-home-intruder
https://1010wcsi.com/fox-news/detroit-homeowner-shoots-kills-armed-suspect-he-says-pulled-out-gun-i-had-to-defend-myself/
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Waiting for Ukraine to send us $40,000,000,000 to help our children.
Please let me know when the money arrives. Thank you.
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Waiting for Ukraine to send us $40,000,000,000 to help our children.
Please let me know when the money arrives. Thank you.
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With the US's new Blinken/Mayorkas/Garland/Yellen.... government, Zelensky feels comfortable enough to call the shots in America.
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DVDs?
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According to Steinbergian logic, at this time, child porn should not be restricted.
How are people like Neil Steinberg not as bad as Muslim terrorists....
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According to Steinbergian logic, at this time, child porn should not be restricted.
How are people like Neil Steinberg not as bad as Muslim terrorists....
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Sounds like the Steinberg fella has some very guilty and disgusting secrets.
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According to Steinbergian logic, at this time, child porn should not be restricted.
How are people like Neil Steinberg not as bad as Muslim terrorists....
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Ball peen hammer.
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Good guy w/ gun executes thug/criminal. I think a couple years old, but nice to see.
https://twitter.com/Hey_Jen3/status/1534691710390902785?s=20&t=hYHQAjHWYfWou75cyVWa_w
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According to Steinbergian logic, at this time, child porn should not be restricted.
How are people like Neil Steinberg not as bad as Muslim terrorists....
(https://i.postimg.cc/KzT62vfg/FUv-Wwz5-WQAAOy-P4.jpg)
We will be seeing Neil sitting down and having a talk with Chris Hansen soon.
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We will be seeing Neil sitting down and having a talk with Chris Hansen soon.
What a fucking idiotic thing for this Neil fuckface to put out there.
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Insights from the third world.
In Brazil is very dificult to buy a gun, you have to jump through lots and lots of hoops and spend lots of money in taxes, classes, documents to prove you are not a criminal, or even suspect. Also to prove you dont have trouble with your taxes. Also psychological tests. After 5 years you need to do everything again.
After you do all that, you receive a document saying that you can on a certain day take the gun from the gun store to your house, and from your house that gun cannot exit.
CCWs are next to impossible unless you are very rich, police officer or friends with politicians.
The guns in Brazil cost at least 5 times more than in US due to government over taxation.
There are several limitations of types of calibers and the number of guns you can have. I think its between 2 and 4.
The criminals are free to have any caliber and amount of guns they want expecialy in the favelas (slums).
Every brazilian house that is not inside a gatted community will have walls, barbed wire or spear points over fences and bars at every window.
Criminals are not afraid of invading homes, torture, kidnap and rape people, because the government guarantees their safety by keeping the tax paying population defenseless.
I see some "first world" countries going down this way and i think its not a good idea.
Example of a party in a brazilian slum with criminals showing their guns:
PS. If you are a tax paying citizen in Brazil you cannot have anything close to a AR-15 semi auto. maybe a 22 lr semi auto with 5 shots or a shotgun at max to keep inside your house only.
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Gun laws will stop shootings like prohibition stopped drinking.
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Un-fuckin’-believable.
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Insights from the third world.
In Brazil is very dificult to buy a gun, you have to jump through lots and lots of hoops and spend lots of money in taxes, classes, documents to prove you are not a criminal, or even suspect. Also to prove you dont have trouble with your taxes. Also psychological tests. After 5 years you need to do everything again.
After you do all that, you receive a document saying that you can on a certain day take the gun from the gun store to your house, and from your house that gun cannot exit.
CCWs are next to impossible unless you are very rich, police officer or friends with politicians.
The guns in Brazil cost at least 5 times more than in US due to government over taxation.
There are several limitations of types of calibers and the number of guns you can have. I think its between 2 and 4.
The criminals are free to have any caliber and amount of guns they want expecialy in the favelas (slums).
Every brazilian house that is not inside a gatted community will have walls, barbed wire or spear points over fences and bars at every window.
Criminals are not afraid of invading homes, torture, kidnap and rape people, because the government guarantees their safety by keeping the tax paying population defenseless.
I see some "first world" countries going down this way and i think its not a good idea.
Example of a party in a brazilian slum with criminals showing their guns:
PS. If you are a tax paying citizen in Brazil you cannot have anything close to a AR-15 semi auto. maybe a 22 lr semi auto with 5 shots or a shotgun at max to keep inside your house only.
Similar deal in Mexico.
That's what most people do not understand.
We cannot retroactively remove the guns.
All we can do is regulate "future" sales and implement more strict regs and laws. Which the bad guys do not follow.
Only the law abiding citizens follow regs and laws.
It's illegal to carry a firearm on a school campus.
Did that stop this from happening?
This will be the war on drugs 2.0, with a similar result.
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This will be the war on drugs 2.0, with a similar result.
An epic fail, and now they hand out crack-pipes and say "be proud of your "cleaner" illegal drug use"... ::)
Libturdz, dumbest on the planet...
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Take away American's ability to defend themselves and give it to a foreign country. Great logic, Spock.
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Sulu, another dumb, gay libtard...
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Sulu, another dumb, gay libtard...
I love own AR-15 is a buzz word for "assault" rifle.
Do they know how many rifles there are other than an AR? ;D
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I love own AR-15 is a buzz word for "assault" rifle.
Do they know how many rifles there are other than an AR? ;D
A pellet gun is an assault rifle to the Left.
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
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I love own AR-15 is a buzz word for "assault" rifle.
Do they know how many rifles there are other than an AR? ;D
The AWB really was a huge own goal for Democrats. It turned the AR from an unpopular weapon into a symbol for guns rights activists, galvanizing the movement at large. And w hardly any effect on violence.
All talk, no meaningful results - the platonic ideal of liberal policy
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The AWB really was a huge own goal for Democrats. It turned the AR from an unpopular weapon into a symbol for guns rights activists, galvanizing the movement at large. And w hardly any effect on violence.
All talk, no meaningful results - the platonic ideal of liberal policy
CA is a perfect example, every time they threaten to take more handguns off the roster, gun sales go through the roof. Every time the government starts talking about banning AR's, sales go through the roof. Canada is trying to ban handguns, people are standing in line to buy them. The government is the best gun salesman ever!
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Sulu, another dumb, gay libtard...
Sulu's analogies are on a George Takei scale of nonsensical.
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Time to get your heads out of the sand America!
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Time to get your heads out of the sand America!
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I guess you didn't get the memo? They just past some bipartisan " gun safety deal " which will do absolutely NOTHING to prevent these types of circumstances , remember that when the next one happens and you're calling for more useless feel good legislation which will do nothing
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The US has THOUSANDS of rules in place to limit car accidents but NO gun control?
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I guess you didn't get the memo? They just past some bipartisan " gun safety deal " which will do absolutely NOTHING to prevent these types of circumstances , remember that when the next one happens and you're calling for more useless feel good legislation which will do nothing
As a start the US could adopt laws that countries without gun problems have.
It’s not rocket science.
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As a start the US could adopt laws that countries without gun problems have.
It’s not rocket science.
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False equivocation , you cannot compare the USA to any other country in this regard. Anymore logical fallacies?
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90% of Americans want MORE gun control!
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False equivocation , you cannot compare the USA to any other country in this regard. Anymore logical fallacies?
Of course you can.
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90% of Americans want MORE gun control!
That number is clearly not accurate and that would mean something if we were a democracy. Any other nonsense you need corrected?
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Of course you can.
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Well , you can , but you're not bright. They just passed more ' gun control ' What will your excuse be when it happens again? We need more , more gun control? A bunch of idiots demand it? ??? ::)
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That number is clearly not accurate and that would mean something if we were a democracy. Any other nonsense you need corrected?
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Well , you can , but you're not bright. They just passed more ' gun control ' What will your excuse be when it happens again? We need more , more gun control? A bunch of idiots demand it? ??? ::)
If more gun control (like most developed Countries have) isn’t the answer.
What is?
How does the US stop school shootings and mass shootings?
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They also need to stop letting violent offenders off so easily, and letting scumbags out of jail because of overcrowding.....who cares, it`s fucking prison it`s not supposed to be a four star hotel.....let them rot in there as opposed to getting off easy and hitting the streets again armed and dangerous and preying on innocent people.
They should reopen sanitariums also.....too many nutballs out on the street when back in the day they would have been getting their daily dose of shock therapy instead of flipping out and shooting people and places to smithereens.
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What would this accomplish? Stop regurgitating anti-gun memes and answer the question. Uvalde shooter purchased his firearms legally and passed a background check. So much for that law being a solution. next....
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What would this accomplish? Stop regurgitating anti-gun memes and answer the question. Uvalde shooter purchased his firearms legally and passed a background check. So much for that law being a solution. next....
That’s my point. The US needs stricter gun laws.
What he did legally in the US would not have been legal in most developed countries.
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That’s my point. The US needs stricter gun laws.
What he did legally in the US would not have been legal in most developed countries.
Owning a gun isn't illegal , murdering people with it is. See how that works? if we magically made every firearm in the United States disappear you think mass killings would stop? This lunatic could've just as easily ran down 20 kids crossing the cross walk with a car , ban cars? ban gasoline? So just as long as they're not shot that's all that matters? ::) next....
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Owning a gun isn't illegal , murdering people with it is. See how that works? if we magically made every firearm in the United States disappear you think mass killings would stop? This lunatic could've just as easily ran down 20 kids crossing the cross walk with a car , ban cars? ban gasoline? So just as long as they're not shot that's all that matters? ::) next....
If murder was legal mass shootings would sore. (See how that works).
While stricter gun laws wouldn’t prevent EVERY murder they would be greatly reduced.
The data on this is overwhelming.
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If more gun control (like most developed Countries have) isn’t the answer.
What is?
How does the US stop school shootings and mass shootings?
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You CANNOT stop mass shootings anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. " Evil falls suddenly , who can say when it falls? " Remove guns from the equation and you get people running people over , bombs , fires , etc
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You CANNOT stop mass shootings anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. " Evil falls suddenly , who can say when it falls? " Remove guns from the equation and you get people running people over , bombs , fires , etc
Other counties are doing it.
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Made no difference. I think it wasnt renewed by Bush Jr. rather than over-turned / lifted. Same result, nothing changed...
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If murder was legal mass shootings would sore. (See how that works).
While stricter gun laws wouldn’t prevent EVERY murder they would be greatly reduced.
The data on this is overwhelming.
Sore? ??? soar? WTF now you're just trolling with this nonsense. Your fake data? Where the murder rates went down when there was an Assault weapons ban , that NEVER banned assault weapons , that data? One of these is legally a " Assault weapon " ( Using their retarded logic ) and one is NOT legally an assault weapon , still waiting for you to tell me which-is-which ;) and how the ban greatly reduced it?
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Other counties are doing it.
Again False equivocation , and do you realize the US has more people ( and guns ) compared to ALL of the countries combined ;)
Oh yeah it's working out well , Nice truck attack 87 killed 450+ injured , no mass shooting in the US comes close to that
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90% of Americans want MORE gun control!
Liar. Your lies are about rubbing my last nerve.
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March 2010
Main article: Nanping school massacre
On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生)[7] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping,[8] Fujian province;[9] The attack was widely reported in Chinese media (called 南平实验小学重大凶杀案),[7] sparking fears of copycat crimes.[9] Following a quick trial, Zheng Minsheng was executed about one month later on April 28.[8] Media reported a history of mental health issues, but police stated that Zheng had no history of mental illness, contradicting earlier reports. Zheng said that he performed the attack after being turned down by a girl and suffering "unfair treatment" from the girl's wealthy family.
April 2010
On April 13, a mentally ill man went on a stabbing rampage at Xizhen Primary School in Xichang, southern Guangxi, killing an eight-year-old boy and an 80-year-old woman passerby. It was the second random attack on schoolchildren in the mainland in three weeks. Also injured were five people - two boys, aged seven and 12, a seven-year-old girl and a couple in their 30s. The knife-wielding suspect, Yang Jiaqin, aged 40, was detained.[10]
On April 28, just a few hours after the execution of Zheng Minsheng in neighboring Fujian Province,[11] in Leizhou,[12] Guangdong another knife-wielding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 (陈康炳)[13] at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher.[9] Chen Kangbing had been a teacher at a different primary school in Leizhou, but was on sick leave due to mental illness[13] He was sentenced to death by a court in Zhanjiang in June.[14]
On April 29 in Taixing,[8] Jiangsu, unemployed 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan went to Zhongxin Kindergarten[15] and stabbed 28 students and two teachers after stabbing the security guard;[9] most of the Taixing students were 4 years old.[16] The attack was the second in China in just two days.
On April 30, Wang Yonglai used a hammer to cause head injury to preschool children in Weifang,[8] Shandong, then used gasoline to commit suicide by self-immolation.[9]
May 2010
An attacker named Wu Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010;[8] early reports were removed from the internet in China, for fear that mass coverage of such violence could provoke copycat attacks.[8][17] The attacker later committed suicide at his house; he was the landlord of the school,[18] Shengshui Temple private kindergarten, and had been involved in an ongoing dispute with the school administrator about when the school would move out of the building.[18]
On May 18, 2010 at Hainan Institute of Science and Technology (海南科技职业学院), a vocational college in Haikou, Hainan, more than 10 men[19] charged into a dormitory wielding knives around 2:30 am;[20] after attacking the security guard and disabling security cameras, 9 students were injured, 1 seriously.[20] The local men attacked the dorm in an act of revenge and retaliation against college students following conflict the previous day at an off-campus food stall in which 4 students were injured, for a total of 13.[21]
August 2010
Main article: zh:2010年山东淄博幼儿园血案
On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang (方建堂) slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing three children and a teacher at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province. Of the injured, 3 other children and 4 teachers were taken to the hospital. After being caught Fang confessed to the crime. There was no known motive.[22] Since the start of the year, a total of 27 people had died and at least 80 were injured in various knife attacks.
August 2011
Eight children, between the ages of three and five,[23] were hurt in Minhang District, Shanghai when an employee at a child-care centre for migrant workers slashed the children with a box-cutter.[24] The woman had worked there for years, but was thought to have psychiatric problems.
September 2011
In September 2011, a young girl and three adults taking their children to nursery school were killed in Gongyi,[25] Henan by 30-year-old Wang Hongbin with an axe.[26] Another child and an adult were seriously wounded but survived.[27] The suspect is a local farmer who is suspected of being mentally ill.[28]
September 2012
On 21 September 2012, three children died and 13 more were injured after a suspected mental patient allegedly broke into a nursery in the Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region and attacked students with a knife. The suspect, Wu Yechang, aged 25, was caught on-site by police officers, who rushed to the nursery after receiving emergency calls.[29]
December 2012
Main article: Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing
On 14 December 2012, a 36-year-old villager in the village of Chenpeng, Henan Province, stabbed 23 children and an elderly woman at the village's primary school as children were arriving for classes.[30] The attacker was restrained at the school, and later arrested.[31] All of the victims survived and were treated at three hospitals, though some were reportedly seriously injured, with fingers or ears cut off, and had to be transferred to larger hospitals for specialized care.[32]
March 2013
A knife-wielding attacker has killed two relatives and then slashed 11 people, including six children, outside a school in China's commercial hub of Shanghai. The man, whose surname was given as Zang, killed his sister and his sister's mother-in-law at their home in a family dispute over money on Wednesday, the Shanghai Daily newspaper said. Zang then attacked parents and children outside an elementary school in the suburban district of Fengxian just as classes were let out, it said.[33]
Two boys have died after they were beaten by a member of staff at a primary school in southern China, state media report. The boys, who attended a private school in Yulin City, in the Guangxi Zhuang region, died later in hospital, Xinhua news agency says.[34]
September 2013
Two adults were killed outside Balijie Primary School, and 44 others were injured after a homemade explosive detonated. Most of the injured were schoolchildren. One of those killed is the bomber, who was riding his motorcycle during the explosion.[35][36][37]
May 2014
A man armed with a meat-cleaver slashed eight children on a playground. Eight students were injured; one was seriously injured and seven others sustained minor injuries. A 35-year-old man was arrested.[38][39]
September 2014
A man stabbed three children to death at a primary school in central China and then committed suicide by jumping off a building, state media reported. The attacker, identified by his surname Chen, broke into Dongfang Primary School in Hubei province around 10:20 a.m, Xinhua news agency said, citing the local government. Wielding a knife, the man stabbed eight students and a teacher before he took his own life, the report said.[40]
February 2016
A man in southern China stabbed 10 schoolchildren before killing himself Monday morning, state-run media reported. All of the children survived and were hospitalized, the state-run Xinhua news agency reported. The incident took place in Haikou, the capital city of the southern island province of Hainan. The motive for the attack remains unclear.[41]
September 2016
Four children were stabbed to death as they were walking to their school. A 56-year-old suspect is wanted.[42]
November 2016
Around 11:40 a.m. 58-year-old Lei Mingyue entered an after-school care center in Hantai District and attacked students lining up for lunch with an axe. After wounding seven female students from Beiguan Primary School he fled the premises, injuring two passersby during his escape. He was later arrested by police and stated he carried out the attack as revenge on society after he was arrested twice for theft.[43][44][45]
May 2017
A driver angry over the loss of overtime pay set fire to his school bus in the eastern city of Weihai, killing 13 people, including 11 children from China and South Korea. The driver bought gasoline which he ignited while the bus was travelling through a tunnel in the coastal city that is home to many South Korea businesses. Police determined that the fire started on the floor of the bus next to the driver's seat, where the cap to a cigarette lighter and gasoline residue were found. All 13 people aboard the bus were killed, including the driver himself and a teacher.[46]
June 2017
Main article: 2017 Xuzhou kindergarten bombing
On 15 June 2017, a bombing at a kindergarten in Feng County, Xuzhou, Jiangsu province, east China, killed at least eight people and injured 65 others. The perpetrator, 22-year-old Xu Taoran, died in the blast. Subsequent investigation revealed that Xu was mentally ill and obsessed with death and destruction.[47] The blast occurred at the entrance of the kindergarten, while children were leaving school. Two people died on the spot, and five succumbed to injuries at the hospital. Nine remained in critical condition in the aftermath.[48] Due to the shattering bomb parts, over 60 people were injured and needed medical attention.
April 2018
Main article: zh:米脂县砍人事件
The death toll has risen to nine in Friday's stabbing attack outside a middle school in northwestern China allegedly carried out by a former pupil seeking revenge for having been bullied. The Mizhi county government in Shaanxi province reported that another 10 people have been hospitalized with injuries resulting from the rampage outside the No. 3 Middle School in the rural area that took place as classes were being dismissed for the evening.[49]
June 2018
Main article: 2018 knife murders at Pubei Road, Shanghai
On June 28, outside Shanghai World Foreign Language Primary School, one of the best private elementary schools in the city, a man attacked three schoolboys and a mother with a kitchen knife, fatally wounding two boys and injuring the others. According to a statement from the Shanghai police, posted on its Weibo account, the attacker, 29, was caught by pedestrians at the scene. Unemployed, he arrived in Shanghai in early June but failed to find a job. To “take revenge on society,” he decided to commit the crime, the man told the police.[50]
October 2018
A knife-wielding assailant injured 14 children at a kindergarten in the western Chinese city of Chongqing on Friday morning, police reported. The attacker, a 39-year-old woman, was taken into custody. No motive for the assault was immediately publicized.[51]
January 2019
A 49-year-old man has been arrested after attacking 20 children at a primary school in Beijing with a hammer. The Xicheng district government said in a post on its Weibo account three of the children suffered heavy injuries and were in a stable condition. There were no reports of any deaths.[52]
March 2019
On the afternoon of March 14, 2019, a man attacked students near the Guanghuadao Primary School and 17 students were injured[53]
September 2019
An attacker killed eight students and injured two others at an elementary school in central China on the first day of the new semester, police said Tuesday. The attack occurred around 8 a.m. Monday in Chaoyangpo village of Enshi city in Hubei province, Enshi police said in a statement. The suspect was a 40-year-old man surnamed Yu. How the children were attacked was not disclosed and the motive for the attack was unclear. According to the Guangzhou-based Southern Weekly, which cited staff from Hubei prison, the suspect was released last June after serving his sentence for attempted murder.[54]
November 2019
More than 50 people, almost all of them young children, were hospitalized in southwest China on Tuesday after a man broke into a kindergarten and sprayed them with a corrosive chemical as “revenge on society.” Fifty-one children and three teachers were injured in the attack in Kaiyuan, in Yunnan province, local authorities said. Two were seriously injured, but their injuries were not life-threatening, according to a report from Xinhua news agency.[55]
June 2020
39 people (37 students and two adults) are injured in a knife attack at a primary school. The students suffered mild injuries; two adults suffered more severe injuries.[56]
December 2020
Main article: Kaiyuan stabbing attack
On December 27, 2020, seven people were killed and seven others injured during a mass stabbing attack outside a school in Kaiyuan, in the Liaoning province. As the school was closed at the time of the incident, no students or teachers were hurt. The victims were all passersby, mainly middle-aged or elderly women. The attacker then stabbed and wounded a policeman before being arrested.[57]
April 2021
On April 29, 2021, a knife-wielding man broke into a school killing two children and wounding 16 others. The mass stabbing occurred in Beiliu, a city in the Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region of southern China. A man with the surname Zeng, aged 24, was apprehended by police. Authorities didn't confirm a motive for the attack, but Hong Kong news outlets, including Oriental Daily and Apple Daily, reported that the suspect was going through a divorce and his wife worked at the school.[58]
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Ban Chinese knives.
It was the knives and not the violent/crazed attackers... ::)
Libturdz ::) ??? ::)
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Time to get your heads out of the sand America!
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Ah, yes. The effective technique used by embarrassed Biden voters. Keep putting your head in the sand, OAF.
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It’s not rocket science.
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compare the percentage BLACK people in those countries with the gun violence and let me know what you see
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"stunning police incompetence that bordered on cowardice"
DPS Director Steve McCraw says officers in Uvalde could have taken down gunman within 3 minutes had commander not hesitated
Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw told a state Senate committee Tuesday that the law enforcement response to the Uvalde school shooting was an "abject failure" and police could have stopped the shooter at Robb Elementary School three minutes after arriving were it not for the indecisiveness of the on-scene commander, who placed the lives of officers before those of children.
McCraw said the inexplicable conduct by Uvalde school district police Chief Pete Arredondo was antithetical to two decades of police training since the Columbine High School massacre, which dictates that officers confront active shooters as quickly as possible.
“The officers had weapons; the children had none,” McCraw said. “The officers had body armor; the children had none. The officers had training; the subject had none. One hour, 14 minutes and 8 seconds. That’s how long children waited, and the teachers waited, in Room 111 to be rescued.”
The revelations detailed by McCraw completed a remarkable shift in the police response narrative state officials have given since the May 24 shooting. Twenty-seven days after Gov. Greg Abbott said the shooting “could have been worse” but for officers who showed “amazing courage by running toward gunfire,” his state police director described stunning police incompetence that bordered on cowardice.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/21/texas-dps-mccraw-uvalde-school-shooting/
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Another job well done by the boys in blue
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zXAb4UyKt90
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Another job well done by the boys in blue
Hey bro, their lives were at risk. Don't you want them to get home to their families? They were just being tactical. Back da blue.
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Is OAK still trying to make the fake case for more “gun control” and/or confiscation? I haven’t been keeping up in this thread
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Is OAK still trying to make the fake case for more “gun control” and/or confiscation? I haven’t been keeping up in this thread
Oak and Straw are off in Ukraine, doing battle...
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https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/06/21/officer-husband-of-slain-uvalde-teacher-was-detained-had-gun-taken-away-after-trying-to-save-wife/
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(https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1656393377804.jpg)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10956399/Mom-saved-sons-Uvalde-gunman-claims-harassed-police.html
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Hey bro, their lives were at risk. Don't you want them to get home to their families? They were just being tactical. Back da blue.
I hate the whole “we want to go home to our families at night” line.
When you become a cop, don’t you automatically sign up for the potential about not going home to your family at night?
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I hate the whole “we want to go home to our families at night” line.
When you become a cop, don’t you automatically sign up for the potential about not going home to your family at night?
COVID has been, by far, the leading killer of police for the past two years. If they cared about coming home to their families, maybe they should start there.
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I hate the whole “we want to go home to our families at night” line.
When you become a cop, don’t you automatically sign up for the potential about not going home to your family at night?
Thats a bullshit line they throw around.
What happened to "To Protect and to Serve"? They didnt protect on that Fuster-Cluck...
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Thats a bullshit line they throw around.
What happened to "To Protect and to Serve"? They didnt protect on that Fuster-Cluck...
Nothing happened to it, it`s just a catch phrase to manipulate stupid people into believing something that isn`t true. Much like the terms, "weapons of war", "high capacity", "don`t say gay" etc...
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Thats a bullshit line they throw around.
What happened to "To Protect and to Serve"? They didnt protect on that Fuster-Cluck...
The courts have ruled that cops have no duty to protect you.
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I respect police officers and most do their jobs admirably. While I want for them to return to their families at night, they know what they signed up for and even then, it is only the 22nd most dangerous job in the United States.
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I respect police officers and most do their jobs admirably. While I want for them to return to their families at night, they know what they signed up for and even then, it is only the 22nd most dangerous job in the United States.
even the 'good' officers will close ranks around the bad ones so no, they're presumed to be scumbags until proven otherwise
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even the 'good' officers will close ranks around the bad ones so no, they're presumed to be scumbags until proven otherwise
Yes. I agree with you 100%. I always say if they police themselves, the way people view them as a whole will change.
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Another hit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeS_0NQUZs
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I don’t think I’ll ever understand the uniquely American stance of Pro Life AND Pro Gun.
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What’s to understand? One is considered a right to murder one is illegal.
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Gee…you think?
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Gee…you think?
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You're definitely the King of Posting Stupid shit. Cuntgratulations.
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The hand sanitizer cracks me up.
These guys were extremely incompetent.
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The hand sanitizer cracks me up.
These guys were extremely incompetent.
I know right!
They're like the cops from the Simpsons.
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(https://c.tenor.com/PwT-vc3pSdsAAAAd/the-simpsons-chief-wiggum.gif)
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Gee…you think?
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You’ve gotta a big mouth for someone who lives in a country that has extensively slashed their military budget for the last 20+ years
Canada wouldn’t even be able to defend itself from a country as small as Iraq
And guess who would be there to bail you out….
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You’ve gotta a big mouth for someone who lives in a country that has extensively slashed their military budget for the last 20+ years
Canada wouldn’t even be able to defend itself from a country as small as Iraq
And guess who would be there to bail you out….
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The US spent 20 years in Iraq and accomplish NOTHING.
The entire world knows this.
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The US spent 20 years in Iraq and accomplish NOTHING.
The entire world knows this.
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I'm starting to become a fan of your work Oak. ;D
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The US spent 20 years in Iraq and accomplish NOTHING.
The entire world knows this.
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As opposed to your country that does nothing while other people in the world are being harmed
Are you and overload docking yet?
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I'm starting to become a fan of your work Oak. ;D
Thanks man!
Are we becoming friends?
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Thanks man!
Are we becoming friends?
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Maybe one day we will get there Oak.
Baby steps. ;D
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Maybe one day we will get there Oak.
Baby steps. ;D
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