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http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/obamas-lies-have-led-to-global-mistrust
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it's a shame. The world totally trusted the USA all the way thru 2008.
Everything changed in 2009, and it's very sad. I wish we could go back to 6 years ago when the world trusted and loved the USA. Obama's foreign policy is just SO different from what we had with Bush.
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it's a shame. The world totally trusted the USA all the way thru 2008.
Everything changed in 2009, and it's very sad. I wish we could go back to 6 years ago when the world trusted and loved the USA. Obama's foreign policy is just SO different from what we had with Bush.
HAHAHAHA
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Yes it is worse - name one alliance stronger today than when that ghetto skell you voted for 2x took office
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it's a shame. The world totally trusted the USA all the way thru 2008.
Everything changed in 2009, and it's very sad. I wish we could go back to 6 years ago when the world trusted and loved the USA. Obama's foreign policy is just SO different from what we had with Bush.
it did change - Obama's lies have made many previous allies no longer trust us and now disdain this country. You voted for this drug abusing commie - own it
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The ownage of ghetto dwellers continues....
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Funny - you cant refute the article so you attack me. Face it homo - the pos you voted for 2x over made an even bigger mess of things than W could have in a million years.
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Funny - you cant refute the article so you attack me. Face it homo - the pos you voted for 2x over made an even bigger mess of things than W could have in a million years.
you used two figures here. "2x" and "a million years".
Are these estimates, or exact figures?
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you used two figures here. "2x" and "a million years".
Are these estimates, or exact figures?
You can't expect exact figures in delusional rants you know.
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You can't expect exact figures in delusional rants you know.
I disagree with 17.345% of what you said here.
Obama is ten zillion times worse than (Stalin + Mussolini - Ghandi) * Hitler^infinity
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I disagree with 17.345% of what you said here.
Obama is ten zillion times worse than (Stalin + Mussolini - Ghandi) * Hitler^infinity
His next course of action = make a post completely off topic and irrelevant to any discussion taking place.
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His next course of action = make a post completely off topic and irrelevant to any discussion taking place.
The article is the discussion Mr. Low-T - which you avoid like the plague because you cant explain why you voted for this asshole and still worship him.
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The article is the discussion Mr. Low-T - which you avoid like the plague because you cant explain why you voted for this asshole and still worship him.
The article is a fluff piece Mr Closet Fag - which you just stumbled upon in the throes of Jungle Fever so you could whine about it on here.
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You take trust to mean, allies and friends....no it means if we say there is a "red line' the next thing you hear is a fucking B 52 strike. If you threaten Putin....the next thing you see is the Ranger Regiment dropping on the Kremlin....this guy is a pussy. He made things worse. The world knows Obama is weak and now we're all seeing it. They were scared of Bush...they were scared of hell at the thought of McCain.
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That part is definitetly true, the world definitely sees Obama for the limp wristed liberal sissy he is, and act accordingly ;D
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Heck even Mobacca does not trust him any more - the world is after all his lies and crimes?
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You don't have to kill people and bomb shit to be tough...just do exactly what you say you're gonna do. He started with apologizing, then dithered in Afghanistan. Didn't care about Iraq, waffled on Iran and then couldn't really make sanctions stick. The snowball really began moving in Libya with the French taking the lead...with some Egypt and getting buddy buddy with the losing team after selling out an ally....then Syria...a little NK bullshit....no win situation but still.....continuing to whine about Israel and sending that idiot Kerry around. Then you roll right into the Ukraine. Nobody trusts him. He's fucked over the Poles. The Japs and Taiwanese are very concerned. The Chinese are salivating over Asia and the Philippines. Hell, nothing like distracting your populace as the economic bubble bursts like a little south china sea adventurism. He sucks.....you all know he sucks. Stop defending him...240 stop playing both sides....
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There is not one single thing any Obama fangirl like lurker or straw can point to that is better off w the Obama forign policy. He is a disaster.
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Epic crybaby meltdown
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Epic crybaby meltdown
Nice way to refute HH6 post Test-challenged limp wrist
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Poor baby... Jungle Fever getting to you today?
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Epic crybaby meltdown
That picture is so dumb. The only reason ' we still have our guns' is that our side fought tooth and nail to barely defeat his legislation. He did, in fact, make a massive push for gun control, just like conservatives had said he would for years. They were right, the libs repeating 'oh hes not gonna go after your guns' were proven dead wrong, as he ended up doing just that.
The rest of the 'points' on that list are silly crap that wasnt really serious or genuine in the first place.
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That picture is so dumb. The only reason ' we still have our guns' is that our side fought tooth and nail to barely defeat his legislation. He did, in fact, make a massive push for gun control, just like conservatives had said he would for years. They were right, the libs repeating 'oh hes not gonna go after your guns' were proven dead wrong, as he ended up doing just that.
The rest of the 'points' on that list are silly crap that wasnt really serious or genuine in the first place.
Tell it to the people who kept crying over it. Then you will have a true experience with "dumb".
But not quite as dumb as the idiot that claimed cities would burn, docs would walk off their jobs and start riots and looting in the streets and Obama would resign.
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That picture is so dumb. The only reason ' we still have our guns' is that our side fought tooth and nail to barely defeat his legislation.
I know obama would LOVE to take our guns.
But there never was any legislation to fight. There was a bunch of TALK to get everyone riled up, to bring in donations... but House Dems never intro'd a bill... there never was legislation to fight, right?
When we look at the bottom line - We lived under the shitty Brady Bill for 3+ years under Bush (created by clinton), and Bush said he would have extended it if he could. We have lived under any kind of Brady-like limitations for ZERO days under Obama. As much as he WANTS to take our guns - there's no arguing this: Americans suffered MORE gun restriction on hi-caps and "assault weapons" under Bush than under Obama. It cannot be argued. bush could have vetoed that shit on day one, but didn't. Let it ride as long as he could. Obama could have enacted some kind of bullshit exec order to give us something like the brady bill - but didn't.
Americans had MORE gun rights under Obama than Bush or CLinton. Crazy, but true.
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it's a shame. The world totally trusted the USA all the way thru 2008.
Everything changed in 2009, and it's very sad. I wish we could go back to 6 years ago when the world trusted and loved the USA. Obama's foreign policy is just SO different from what we had with Bush.
Check you out, ...aren't you the sarcastic one! ;D
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I know obama would LOVE to take our guns.
But there never was any legislation to fight. There was a bunch of TALK to get everyone riled up, to bring in donations... but House Dems never intro'd a bill... there never was legislation to fight, right?
When we look at the bottom line - We lived under the shitty Brady Bill for 3+ years under Bush (created by clinton), and Bush said he would have extended it if he could. We have lived under any kind of Brady-like limitations for ZERO days under Obama. As much as he WANTS to take our guns - there's no arguing this: Americans suffered MORE gun restriction on hi-caps and "assault weapons" under Bush than under Obama. It cannot be argued. bush could have vetoed that shit on day one, but didn't. Let it ride as long as he could. Obama could have enacted some kind of bullshit exec order to give us something like the brady bill - but didn't.
Americans had MORE gun rights under Obama than Bush or CLinton. Crazy, but true.
Of course there was no legislation to take any guns. This is just a crying point they have to stick with in order to justify their whining.
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Of course there was no legislation to take any guns. This is just a crying point they have to stick with in order to justify their whining.
Talk about delusions - Obama tried remember and it failed
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Of course there was no legislation to take any guns. This is just a crying point they have to stick with in order to justify their whining.
Complete bullshit.
Your side is mocking conservatives saying 'you still have your guns' as if obama being anti-gun was all just lies.
Conservatives warned for years obama was extremely antigun and would work to enforce gun control any way he could. You libs laughed and mocked. And then what happened? Obama ended up doing EXACTLY WHAT CONSERVATIVES SAID HE WOULD DO.
Who was right and who was wrong here?? The conservatives who had warned about this were proven right, and the libs who laughed it off have egg all over their faces.
And anyone still saying 'no one is trying to take away your guns' clearly does not know what is going on in connecticut, new york, or maryland over the past year and as we speak.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-overseas-president-obama-projects-a-whole-lot-of-nothing/2014/04/23/6e0d829a-cb2a-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html?hpid=z5
Damn - FAIL
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Talk about delusions - Obama tried remember and it failed
how did he "try"?
Did he talk about it? Did he help senate house members write up legislation? Did he issue a Brady bill kinda thing using exec order?
I think YOU are sticking to the "Obama tried to take our guns" speech - but you won't admit all he did was TALK about it.
33, we suffered under the BRADY BILL for 3 years under Bush. We haven't seen any kind of restrictions like that under obama, nor any legislation intro'd that would have done this. Nothing.
We all know certain states' leaders have signed gun bills - Ask Gov romney or Gov brewer... it's not a dem thing lol..
But Obama himself? No. He was ALL TALK on this issue.
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how did he "try"?
Did he talk about it? Did he help senate house members write up legislation? Did he issue a Brady bill kinda thing using exec order?
I think YOU are sticking to the "Obama tried to take our guns" speech - but you won't admit all he did was TALK about it.
33, we suffered under the BRADY BILL for 3 years under Bush. We haven't seen any kind of restrictions like that under obama, nor any legislation intro'd that would have done this. Nothing.
We all know certain states' leaders have signed gun bills - Ask Gov romney or Gov brewer... it's not a dem thing lol..
But Obama himself? No. He was ALL TALK on this issue.
Bullshit. He did and is doing everything he possibly can to hurt gun ownership in any way possible. They had shit drawn up just last year to ban entire classes of guns, ban standard magazine capacities, and impose the registration(so-called universal bg checks). They have plenty more that this on the books, just waiting for the right 'opportunity'...
The only reason they didnt introduce the full legislation is that it became apparent it would not pass congress, not because obama 'didnt want to'.
Obama has since said that he will 'go around congress any way he can' to chip away at gun rights, any way he possibly can. Nothing to do with actual crime prevention, or 'safety' as they like to say...no, their goal is to take away private gun owership, period. Everything they have advanced, including the executive orders he made, are meant to advance that goal alone, little by little. Virtually ALL of the big name gun control politicians have been on record at some point saying that their goal was the removal of guns from society and that 'if they could', they would enact full confiscation.
This isnt some crazy conspiracy theory crap, or right wing fear mongering...it is the truth, it is plain as day for anyone who has actually researched this stuff. These assholes literally do want to end gun ownership in america, that is a fact from their own mouths, and they will push towards this goal, one chip at a time, wherever they see the slightest opportunity.
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Bullshit. He did and is doing everything he possibly can to hurt gun ownership in any way possible. They had shit drawn up just last year to ban entire classes of guns, ban standard magazine capacities, and impose the registration(so-called universal bg checks). They have plenty more that this on the books, just waiting for the right 'opportunity'...
The only reason they didnt introduce the full legislation is that it became apparent it would not pass congress, not because obama 'didnt want to'.
Obama has since said that he will 'go around congress any way he can' to chip away at gun rights, any way he possibly can. Nothing to do with actual crime prevention, or 'safety' as they like to say...no, their goal is to take away private gun owership, period. Everything they have advanced, including the executive orders he made, are meant to advance that goal alone, little by little. Virtually ALL of the big name gun control politicians have been on record at some point saying that their goal was the removal of guns from society and that 'if they could', they would enact full confiscation.
This isnt some crazy conspiracy theory crap, or right wing fear mongering...it is the truth, it is plain as day for anyone who has actually researched this stuff. These assholes literally do want to end gun ownership in america, that is a fact from their own mouths, and they will push towards this goal, one chip at a time, wherever they see the slightest opportunity.
I understand and agree with the reasons why they didn't introduce any legislation. They knew they'd lose.
And it's not CT stuff... I'm very aware obama WANTED to take some gun rights. EVERY recent president has loved that - Clinton gave us brady bill, Bush wanted to keep it, no doubt obama loved it too.
But people should say "Obama TALKED about coming for our guns, and maybe had some thigns in the work, but NO legislation was intro'd under his watch, so he never gave us any legislative action on guns".
Cause that's the truth. He DIDNT do everything he could - cause he COULD have just issued an exec order that lined right up with Brady Bill. The only 2 actions he did - limit foreign used gun imports and limit silencers/full auto being given to corps so felons could buy full auto silenced guns - well, many agree with those two - we don't need full auto silenced chinese military surplus rifles in the hands of paroled murderers in the USA.
But in terms of real effect upon americans - we suffered under Brady bill for 3 years with bush. We all paid $90 for a high-cap 15 round magazine, under Bush. Not under obama.
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But people should say "Obama TALKED about coming for our guns, and maybe had some thigns in the work, but NO legislation was intro'd under his watch, so he never gave us any legislative action on guns".
Cause that's the truth.
You are seriously getting into delusional territory here...
No legislation was introduced under his watch??? Did you sleep through all of 2013??? His administration made the biggest push for gun control legislation in 20 years...they DID introduce legislation, it just failed to pass congress. What on earth are you talking about?
And Bush may not have been a pro-gun president, but he at least allowed the Clinton AWB to expire in 2004...you know, the same one Obama tried desperately to reinstate in 2013...and as tx gov he was friendly to getting cc laws passed in texas. Thats not something that would endear him to the Brady bunch. Obama, on the other hand, has told the Brady bunch 'i want you to know that we are working on it, behind the scenes, we have some things we are working on' probably in reference to the UN small arms treaty he wants to get passed.
Lastly, your assessments of the executive orders he passed are so ridiculously misinformed they could have come from the Brady campaign itself. I thought you were somewhat knowledgeable about firearms. 'Fully automatic chinese machine guns'?? Huh? Automatic weapons are already illegal and tightly controlled. All obama's EO did-under the guise of 'fighting crime' and 'safety' - was to stop the import of surplus foreign obsolete rifles, not 'fully automatic chinese machine guns with silencers that were to hit the streets' or some bullshit like that. What his EO mostly affects are vintage WW1 -WW2 era bolt action rifles which have been imported for decades and are sold to either collectors or recreational target shooters and hobbiests. How many 1903 springfields or surplus mausers have been used in crimes? I believe the number is literally zero. It has NOTHING to do with crime or safety. Obama labeled it sensationally as 'keeping weapons of war off our streets'..but in reality it was a direct jab at gun owners, and nothing more.
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i didn't know the dem congress intro'd any legislation. what was the bill name/# HR that the dems introduced?
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i didn't know the dem congress intro'd any legislation. what was the bill name/# HR that the dems introduced?
Were you in a friggin closet the last few years or something?
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Were you in a friggin closet the last few years or something?
Post a link to this supposed legislation.
Should be easy to do so.
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He must have skipped directly from 2012 to 2014. The Gun Control push in congress was probably the biggest news storyline the entire first half of 2013
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He must have skipped directly from 2012 to 2014. The Gun Control push in congress was probably the biggest news storyline the entire first half of 2013
Then it should be easy to find a link to this action and legislation.
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Then it should be easy to find a link to this action and legislation.
Here you go scumbag
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/obama-gun-control-state-of-the-union_n_4684426.html
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/03/obama-announces-gun-control-actions/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
Another one you retarded twink
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http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx
Libtards are so stupid.
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Heres the first one to pop up. Haha what smartasses, trying to play this stupid game as if you werent already completely aware that this shit did take place...
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/2013/04/17/senate-to-vote-on-amendments-to-gun-bill-with-background-check-plan-in-doubt/
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/preventing-gun-violence
and for the kill shot
Go back to bed 240 and Licker
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Talking or actual legislation in those links?
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Heres the first one to pop up. Haha what smartasses, trying to play this stupid game as if you werent already completely aware that this shit did take place...
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/2013/04/17/senate-to-vote-on-amendments-to-gun-bill-with-background-check-plan-in-doubt/
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Now where are the actual legislation pieces? Not talks, but actions?
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Talking or actual legislation in those links?
I bumped the other thread - eat shit and read something instead of worshipping your failed messiah moron
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Talk or actions?
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what is the house resolution? there wasn't one.
what is the senate resultion? still in committee, hasn't arrived yet, and will fail upon arrival, strictly for show and fundraising.
what is obama's exec order on guns? there wasn't one.
So that's the big Obama gun ban?
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what is the house resolution? there wasn't one.
what is the senate resultion? still in committee, hasn't arrived yet, and will fail upon arrival, strictly for show and fundraising.
what is obama's exec order on guns? there wasn't one.
So that's the big Obama gun ban?
HAHAHAHA. Dude, really? No matter how you spell it out and spoon feed it to them, they are still in La La Land and will only believe their delusions.
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HAHAHAHA. Dude, really? No matter how you spell it out and spoon feed it to them, they are still in La La Land and will only believe their delusions.
the entire obama gun band turned out to be zero white house action, zero house action, and now they're "talking about" a Dem Senate bill that limped out of committee that they're already conceding will lose badly if they even choose to launch it just to make their point.
Look, obama sucks on all kinds of levels, but even after sandy hook, even after the giffords shooting... he hasn't given us anything brady bill like... even though bush (who COULD have killed the brady bill on day one), decided to let us suffer under brady bill until it sunsetted, and then he wanted to keep it, but knew repubs woudln't let him have it.
When 2016 arrives, people will have to admit - we had more gun rights under obama than under bush. Weird.
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the entire obama gun band turned out to be zero white house action, zero house action, and now they're "talking about" a Dem Senate bill that limped out of committee that they're already conceding will lose badly if they even choose to launch it just to make their point.
Look, obama sucks on all kinds of levels, but even after sandy hook, even after the giffords shooting... he hasn't given us anything brady bill like... even though bush (who COULD have killed the brady bill on day one), decided to let us suffer under brady bill until it sunsetted, and then he wanted to keep it, but knew repubs woudln't let him have it.
When 2016 arrives, people will have to admit - we had more gun rights under obama than under bush. Weird.
Exactly. But you can't tell them that. Now they will either avoid this thread all together or come back and talk circles about completely non relevant issues.
Gotta get those Obama rants in every day no matter what I suppose.
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the entire obama gun band turned out to be zero white house action, zero house action, and now they're "talking about" a Dem Senate bill that limped out of committee that they're already conceding will lose badly if they even choose to launch it just to make their point.
Look, obama sucks on all kinds of levels, but even after sandy hook, even after the giffords shooting... he hasn't given us anything brady bill like... even though bush (who COULD have killed the brady bill on day one), decided to let us suffer under brady bill until it sunsetted, and then he wanted to keep it, but knew repubs woudln't let him have it.
When 2016 arrives, people will have to admit - we had more gun rights under obama than under bush. Weird.
Because he knew it would fail miserably and lead to another 2010 like beating in the midterms. Do you not see this?
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Because he knew it would fail miserably and lead to another 2010 like beating in the midterms. Do you not see this?
So now you're admitting there isn't an obama gun ban to worry about -
and you've moved on to just pointing out why it didn't happen?
Well, that's progress.
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Because he knew it would fail miserably and lead to another 2010 like beating in the midterms. Do you not see this?
What has that got to do with the topic we are discussing? Besides absolutely nothing. Now you want to whine and try to talk your head out of your ass where it ended up.
So no legislation huh? Didn't think so.
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What has that got to do with the topic we are discussing? Besides absolutely nothing. Now you want to whine and try to talk your head out of your ass where it ended up.
So no legislation huh? Didn't think so.
If obama really, truly wished to have another brady bill - he would have it - using executive order.
He enjoyed talking about it, and a few senate dems are milking fundraising with an inept bill they already admit will fail, but bring them love in their uber-liberal districts.
obama doesn't even have the moral fiber to stick to his guns (pardon the pun). He just rode it while politically useful, and dumped the issue. No gun grab.
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You guys are delusional beyond belief.
I know you already know this, but they did actually propose legislation, which was kind of the biggest news story for the first half of 2013, and the main bill was voted on in the Senate and it got only 54 votes when it needed 60 to pass, so it did not move on to the House.
But by all means, continue the denial...'it never happened'
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You guys are delusional beyond belief.
I know you already know this, but they did actually propose legislation, which was kind of the biggest news story for the first half of 2013, and the main bill was voted on in the Senate and it got only 54 votes when it needed 60 to pass, so it did not move on to the House.
But by all means, continue the denial...'it never happened'
Where is the proof? You haven't produce it yet. No surprise.
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On a party line vote of 10-8, the Democratic-led panel approved a bill to renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004. The measure would also limit high-capacity ammunition clips to 10 bullets.
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On a party line vote of 10-8, the Democratic-led panel approved a bill to renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004. The measure would also limit high-capacity ammunition clips to 10 bullets.
You really are stupid. You just like to whine and cry don't you? Having a period? Menopause? Something else wrong with your ovaries?
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You need a new law to do AWB moron.
I know you are stupid and generally just a typical weak kneed limp wristed metro hipster twink - but seriously - this is a lot even for a coward like yourself.
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You really are stupid. You just like to whine and cry don't you? Having a period? Menopause? Something else wrong with your ovaries?
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Which is it?
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Hahhaa, 'it never happened' :D
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HAHAHA No links to new legislation.
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There have been tons of links posted, not to mention an entire years worth of news coverage, and the president himself publically making it a top priority on many occassions...but i guess its just easier to say
'It never happened' ;)
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The only thing posted was legislation that was already existing in the past. Nothing new.
Guess it's easier to just whine without proof.
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after 6 years of libs saying "it never happened", this week, a committee barely passed a draft of a bill. Now, they admit it'll be soundly defeated in liberal senate, will never see House, and most importantly, WILL NEVER LAND ON OBAMA'S DESK TO SIGN.
So, most accurately is this: Ten far-left liberal senators wrote up and voted 10-8 to start a symbolic anti-gun bill. Obama didn't get a vote. He wasn't one of the ten votes. So yes, it's a little odd to say "Obama's finally given us the legislation!" Because that's not what presidents do - they approve a house/senate approved bill (which this will never become) or they enact an exec order (which he could do, but will NOT).
So "it'll never happen" = Obama will never sign a gun bill, and he'll never give us a Brady-style exec order.
BUT
"it'll happen" = far-left senators get a shitty pre-bill thru a 10-8 committee vote. There it is. The great gun ban of the obama presidency is an ill-fated 10-8 committee vote on a bill that will never exist. Certainly. Now both sides get to claim a win, which is exactly what is happening on getbig. If "ten liberal senators delivered a sacrificial lamb bill" is equal to "obama takin our guns!" in your mindset, then yes, keep right on shouting it. Hannity will, no doubt.
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HAHAHAHA. Don't bother expecting them to have the braincells to comprehend anything like that or remotely dealing with logic and common sense.
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HAHAHAHA. Don't bother expecting them to have the braincells to comprehend anything like that or remotely dealing with logic and common sense.
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